I truly believe many, many doctors want to do the best for their patients, but aren't educated in nutrition and are greatly hampered by the administration in healthcare facilities. Most people don't understand what goes on behind the scenes with doctors at the administrative level. I went to see a cardiologist for preventative purposes, told him how my A1c dropped from 5.4 to 5.0 after starting 60mcg of K2 MK-7, and right there he says, "Oh," pulls it up on the computer and starts asking me if this is what I was talking about, pointing to the bottles online with D3 and K2 formulations. He had no clue.
Yes, we don’t learn much about the importance of vitamins and supplements in medical school. Our education is heavily influenced by the pharmaceutical industry. This is really a shame because when vitamins and minerals are deficient, our immune system is not working well and medications also will not give us the outcome they’re capable of.
Because there is more profit in chemo, surgery and radiation and most Drs know squat about nutritional cures. Big pharma is not interested in cheap cures. Chemo drugs are more profitable.
Same with everything government do. Make a big profit from food sugar industries. Drug company profit. Odd to think that doctors training in the 6 years doesn't include more than 8 hours in total with nutrition training. They test for vit D levels Don't think they would know what a vitamin K2 is. Said eggs were unhealthy at one time. Eat low fat? 🤣 Fill yourself with rice, pasta porridge? Eat a breakfast? Snack through the day? Fasting is the best medicine in what I've read. Do you.know if you read that garlic does shrink tumors in rats. They wouldn't do these tests, they just say it's not proved. So so cheap. A lot of people say there is a cure. How many researchers would lose their high paid jobs and high mortgages if they found one? K2 you can buy quite cheap in a shop. Or eat eggs, cheese yogurts any foods that have it. Nil profit.
Awesome video! Another great thing is that K2 plays a vital role in preventing arterial calcification by activating proteins that keep calcium out of blood vessels. Research shows that for every 10 micrograms of K2 consumed daily, cardiovascular mortality risk decreases by 9%.
@@liberty8424 there are some studies related to this but not that extensively yet. And results seem to vary from person to person and situation to situation.
9:15 totally right. I recently asked my doctor for some blood work on vitamins and she said that due to lack of scientific evidence the ensurance won't pay it. What a great medical system we have 😒
@@JonasKuehneMDI have a question about k7 for dental health , I read that k2 is good for gums and helps move calcium out of the Saliva and into bones and teeth ? My question is don’t we need calcium in our saliva and some in our blood ? I also read that k2 helps stop calculus from building up ? Because it moves the calcium , can you tell me more ? And is d3 and k2m7 safe to take ? I have to take vegan d3 I’m allergic to lanolin , I recently ( only for two days took a combo d3 k2 and the first day I felt great and then the second I was having chest pains and strange heart beat ? So I stopped immediately knowing that was the only variable at the time
Hello from Canada! I’ve been taking 10000 iu’s of Vitamin D for 6 months after my last bloodwork showed I was deficient. After doing a bit of research, I’ve realized it should be taken with Mg (I use glycinate), and Vitamin K2. I have vitiligo and since dosing with these vitamins, I’ve noticed an increase in pigmentation all over my body.
That’s amazing! Seems like your auto immune disorder is responding to this. Vitamin D3 and K2 can greatly improve immune function. Very happy to hear this.
I don’t know how to add a photo here but all along both my arms, I am gaining my original skin tone back. Plus I just feel better since taking Vitamin D.
Great and interesting video! Some, I think, important remarks: 1) the MAX TESTED SAFE doses are as follows: MK4: 45000 mcg/day, equals 45 mg MK7: 3x7360 mcg/wk equals 7.4 mg. The MK4 dose was tested by Japanese, MK7 dose is reported in " Randomized Controlled Clinical Trial of the Effect of Treatment with Vitamin K2 on Vascular Calcification in Hemodialysis Patients (Trevasc-HDK)" 2) people treated with blood thinners of the Warfarin /Coumarin type cannot combine this with K2. They should consult with their prescribing physician to change their medication. 3. There is some conflicting information... I believed that MK7 is advantageous above MK4, but I read the following article from Dr. J. Neustadt: " MK4 or MK7, Which is Better for Bones?" OK, I hope this was helpful
Thank you for this information! There is some conflicting information if it can be used in people that have issues with blood clotting. There is also a small conversion between K1 and K2. I came across a few patients that could not tolerate MK four but we’re OK with MK seven interestingly.
MK7 at more than 200 mcg for a few months wud cause me heart palpitations, but not mk4 at 20 mg a day for 2 years so far. Mk4 at 5 mg slowly adjusting to 20 mg a day, eliminated my frozen shoulder and many pains. If it stay in the body short, it cud also means they are being absorbed into the body cells instead of pushed out from the body
@@williamlee6079 Google "mk7 heart palpitations". The first item that comes up has a question about this and the long reply below it states the possible cause may be magnesium deficiency. In my earlier, removed reply, I mentioned the website. YT clearly doesn't like this..
Angry Father here - we lost our young adult son recently to Ca which was treated for 3 years with chemotherapy and radiation from very early on and still didn't save him however his Dr warned him repeatedly against any alternatives including dietary changes and supplements including k2, Green tea, Vit C saying all of it was nonsense. Money speaks loudest.
I’m very sorry for your loss and completely understand your anger. It is very frustrating that physicians are not more supportive of non-pharmacological treatments that can be used together with traditional methods like chemotherapy. Even the off label use of medications like ivermectin should be considered as it is a very safe drug to administer. There is no guarantee that other modalities will have an impact, but I think it is important to try in order to improve the chances of the patient. There are many articles in the literature that show that the addition of high dose, intravenous vitamin C can increase the effectiveness of chemotherapy and decrease side effects. Many oncologist do not know about this.
I'm so sorry!!! It's ENRAGING how HOSTILE the idiot medical industry/Doctors are to nutritional treatment at the expense of massive death toll of their patients who could have had a better chance at winning the fight and living
So sorry for your family, our. Son has cancer and thank God I we convinced him to not do chemo, but use the fendbendazole...I personally know people that are cured quickly from stage 4 mastesised cancer ! I have a strong feeling this is how the good lord wants to heal our son! God bless your family and fill the hole in your heart, knowing u will see your son again.
Please sir. And how ivermectin can kill bad breath and body. I think i gor those from my dogs kissing me. Reports from bristlehealth show i have positive and negative gram commensal bacteria. But I cant doctor or dentist that will look at report and help. Can ivermectin take care of the bacteria as well as any parasite I do not know of. Thank you. @JonasKuehneMD
Thank you Doctor, you are a courageous and integral Physician! You truly care for the welfare of the sick; The Education for the preventative measures needed to keep potential illnessess of the healthy at bay, regardless of big pharma's self serving pharmaceutical interests!❤
Thank you for your very kind words. I think this information is extremely important and may impact people’s lives positively, especially if they are suffering from medical conditions. As physicians, we are taught to ignore non-pharmacologic compounds like vitamins and I think this is a big mistake.
I cannot give official advice on dosing on this channel. Personally, I use between 400 and 500 MCG K2 daily. The official suggestion is always to run every supplement by your treating physician.
Great video! In my view the missing link to why many people struggle with D3 and K2 levels is the accumulation of excessive amounts of vitamin A. In a vitamin A toxic state K2 and D3 are pushed out of the system. I wonder why vitamin A fortification is a thing, when it is not even hard to find in common foods and a toxicity has dire consequences. Vitamin A overload is easily one of the faster ways to get cancer to grow via the mechanisms you describe when K2 and D3 are lacking. I also know that chances are high that my take is controversial and oversimplified, but still a sceptical debate on vitamin A should be had in nutrition science.
yes, not appropriate, as you say yourself. Retinol is higher in people being healthy and in very old people. I seems to be associated with healthy longevity. Direct effects on the methylation status have been demonstrated, turning cells into their younger selfs. That's why. Now to your claim: the interaction between those vitamins you are pointing to are from in vitr studies. And their results are even conflicting. Epidemiologically, vitamin A from natural sources is much more likely to be found as deficient than in concentations that would be toxic.
I just started K2 MK-7 anout a year ago, first 60mcg and now 120mcg. I think I will go up to 240mcg. I started it due to atherosclerosis and was interested in the effect on cholesterol. I got an unexpected result at just 60mcg - my A1c dropped from 5.4 to 5.0 and has stayed there. I already take D3 due to low vitamin D level. Am planning on lowering carbs, but I definitely can't go carnivore for many reasons, the medical reason being nausea from meat fats since childhood. Dairy fats and nuts are fine. Even magnesium, had no idea until a couple of months ago. Wanted to see if it would help with sleep, learned about deficiencies in people, got another unexpected result. I get burning in the bottom of my feet from a lot of walking and that has almost disappeared since taking 80 mg 3x a day of magnesium. Yeah, we have to be our own doctors and experiment on ourselves simply because doctors aren't taught and our healthcare systems are geared toward endstage treatment rather than diet and prevention.
Thank you for your detailed post. Yes, vitamin D3 and K2 are crucial for immune health, as well as blood sugar management. It’s great that you had these results even at 60 MCG. I currently take 400 MCG K2 MK7. Yes, it is a shame that this is not taught in medical school. We are missing great opportunities to treat diseases if we are not optimizing vitamins and minerals.
A high fat meat diet and low carbs (not keto) is actually the missing link for better health . Eating daily meat, eggs, butter and cheese will give all k2 the body needs. Once you get to this diet you loose weight, improve all blood exams, and the only deficiency you get is chronic diseases.
Except that we evolved eating high carb foods like fruit (we cannot make our own vitamin c unlike carnivores like dogs and cats and must get it from fruit and vegetables).
@@LouisW333I personally eat unlimited fruit and meat every day. But thats it no other carbs. I do not know how humans evolved but a high carb diet today is making people sick. Bread, flour, cakes, biscuits, candys, pizza, pasta, rice, skyrocket glucose levels, provide huge amount of energy that the body can not handle. And the vegetables have anti nutrients that may not allow absorption of vitamins like k2.
@@LouisW333 wrong. We did not evolve for hgh carbs. BS. You eat 1 red pepper per day, which is 200g total weight, with 30g of available carbs, to meet vit C easily. There are hundreds of studies showing how high carb is causing all chrronic illnesses. but for you: RIP soon
Nice presentation! You might check out research by Leon Schurgers PHD. They used 2 mg in their study of mk-7 I. Have been on that dose for 11 months, recent bone scan of leg bone shows increase in density. I am also treating rectal C with conventional treatment and now with alternative help..Changing diet to high fat, moderate protein and very low carbs +.16 hr fast has been key.
Thank you for your comment. Yes, in your situation I agree that a higher dose is better. It looks like you are almost implementing metabolic therapy in your treatment regiment. I think this is a good idea. Other strategies you could discuss with your physician is intravenous vitamin C, at least one time per week between 25,000 and 75,000mg. Berberine and EGCG are the supplements that can help to decrease the uptake of glutamine. Again, I would always discuss everything with your treating physician.
MK7 at more than 200 mcg for a few months wud cause me heart palpitations, but not mk4 at 20 mg a day for 2 years so far. Mk4 at 5 mg slowly adjusting to 20 mg a day, eliminated my frozen shoulder and many pains. If it stay in the body short, it cud also means they are being absorbed into the body cells instead of pushed out from the body
that was spot on. It is amazing. Thank you very much for sharing. Unfortunately, most k2 preparations are fairly low dosed. As to why natural substances are disregarded: That's not an issue that originates from medicine, it's from a broader cultural context. Nature is still perceived by many as the enemy, which has to be overcome by means of engineering. All the materialistic, modernist and positivistic attitudes are informed by that. as medical professionals, you can evade that only by returning prior to the rise of engineering... just as you did, as far back as to Hippocrate. One gets all to easy assigned the quack property, or the flower pwer along with a certain naivity. believing in engineering means beleieving in linearity, top down control free of context. The first ones investigating natural ingredients for their power with state of the art methods where the Indians, in the late 1990ies and early 2000's. I remember a paper that demonstrated that curcumin enhanced macrophages in their readiness for phagocytosis.
Thank you for this great explanation! Yes, we have an inherent arrogance that only scientific progress is worth pursuing. There are many great natural and repurposed medications with incredible efficacy. Our profit model of medicine gets in the way here, unfortunately.
Hello from Belgium Dr. Jonas. I supplement with 10,000 Vit D3 + K2 daily (in the winter) from Nutralie. I also supplement with Lugol's 5% on an empty stomach every morning. Could you kindly tell us if Celtic Salt) or "le sel de Guérande" sold here in Europe, is free from heavy metals, lead and arsenic ?
Celtic salt may have elevated levels of lead. The reviews and testing are not consistent here though. I currently use Redmond salt. I love Belgium, especially your chocolate and pastries! I am also impressed that you can speak several languages fluently. It’s the only country where I have observed this.
Check out 'mamavation' for unbiased third party testing. Celtic Redmond Himalayan Baja sea 🧂and others had above regulatory limits of heavy metals especially lead. Himalayan pink salt has the addtion of iron oxide. Lake Deborah salt here in Australia is one of the lowest and is independently tested by a Univeristy. I've heard Colima sea salt is well below the safety limit and also free of microplastics
I currently take the one from sports research that I showed in this video. There are many other brands that are good as well. The K2 that comes with the vitamin D3 is too low in my opinion. I therefore bought extra K2 by itself. My current dose is 10,000 IU D3 with 400 MCG K2.
K2 has been shown to trigger apoptosis in cancer cells. I have not seen literature if cells in the early stages of becoming a cancer cell, in other words pre-cancer cells would be affected here.
Thank you so much for the information. I have been taking D3 of 10000IUs daily, how much K2 in the version of MK4 should I take to accompany with? I cant tolerate the MK7 version.
I must state two major critical points you missed in this presentation: 1. When you state you take 400 micrograms of “K2”, you did not mention how much MK-4 & MK-7 which is part of vitamin K2 one should be taking as a healthy person to prevent cancer development. 2. Vitamin D3 does depend upon the presence of enough magnesium which acts as a cofactor for vitamin D3 to actually work to regulate about 2,000 or so genes in our bodies.
That's very interesting. I've been taking 10k IU of Vit-D and 200 mcg of K2 for several years now, but it sounds like I've been under-dosing the K2 all this time. Given the potential anti-cancer effects, I think I'll increase the K2. However, I'm quite curious to hear your thoughts on the interaction between Vit-K2 and Nattokinase, since there seems to be some overlap between the two.
Yes, Nattokinase is containing a high level of vitamin K2. It would still be very difficult to take too much vitamin K2 as studies up to 42,000 MCG per day for two years have shown no adverse effects. I am considering increasing from 400 MCG to 1mg.
Yes, most of them come in 100 MCG. I am using a D3 plus K2 with 5000 IUD three and 100 MCG K2, and then I take 2 to 3 additional 100 MCG K2 capsules. I am not yet eating enough sauerkraut or kimchi.
I have to look at research using larger amounts of this. It seems safe in extremely high amounts, so it would be interesting to see what larger doses can do for a variety of diseases.
That is quite a high dose of vitamin D3. Make sure you do check your labs and talk to your physician if appropriate. Not official medical advice of course but if I took that dose, I would probably take 1000 MCG or 1 MG K2.
If medicine was geared around what people need and what works, we'd be using healthier, less damaging, and less expensive methods. Individual people are usually willing to treat others kindly and well. But when we get to large medical corporations, somehow they forget about being kind and helpful, and will endlessly repeat the profit-making approach of the bean counters: stripping out quality and value until the customer finally goes away. Which is a disaster for the health industry and humanity.
Does the amount of K-2 daily dosages increase proportionally in relation to the amount of D-3 taken daily, as well ? For example, if you're taking 400 mg of K-2 in tandem with 5-10,000 IU's, does that mean that for higher does of D-3... such as 50,000 to 100,000 IU's... that the corresponding dosage of K-2 also, be increased to 4,000 mg's of K-2 ?
You are correct, it can also be naturally produced. A majority of supplements, though is synthetically produced: Vitamin K2 MK4, also known as menaquinone-4, is a type of Vitamin K2 that is commonly found in animal-based and fermented foods. The term 'MK4' stands for 'menaquinone-4'. Both natural and synthetic forms of this supplement exist. Synthetic Vitamin K2 MK4 is made by converting the plant-based vitamin K1 into K2 MK4 in a laboratory setting.
MK4 has better bio availability because of the fact that MK7 has to be converted first to MK4 to be utilised.Also MK7 can effect your cardiac rhythms and cause an elevated heart rate.
I believe that was sarcasm when you wondered why there were no trials? The answer is: because there is no financial incentive to research a natural compound that cannot be patented
When you are speaking about how much “vitamin K2” to take and what you claim to be taking, there is absolutely no mention of which methequinone whether it be MK4 or MK 7 or MK9 in what relative amounts of these subgroups of K2 to take!!! As you may know, those 3 subgroups of K2 have different functions & half lives as well as where these subgroups go inside the body !!! You mentioned that you take around 400 micrograms of “K2” but you didn’t mention if that was MK7 or not which I am assuming that’s the amount of MK7 that you’re taking for yourself. Can you please elaborate on which subgroups should be taken at some minimum amount! Thank you
Yes, as I mentioned in the beginning of the video, I’m referring to the MK-7 form here. The MK-4 form is also OK to use but has a shorter half-life. Some people tolerate MK-4 better than MK-7. I take 400 to 500 mg K2 MK-7 daily currently. Vitamin K1 is of course very different and involved in blood clotting. This is something that I would not suggest to supplement beyond what’s available in food.
Were you also aware that vitamin D3 doesn’t work efficiently and effectively unless there is enough magnesium present to act as a vital cofactor to this steroid molecule, vitamin D3. I think we really require that “trifecta” of nutrients which is 1. Vitamin D3 @ 50 to 100 ppb 2. Vitamin K2 @ 300 milligrams MK7 + 40,000 milligrams MK4 3. Magnesium-L-glycinate @ 450 mg as Mg in men & 350 mg in women
From pubmed: MK-7 supplementation at recommended dosage does not affect vitamin K-dependent coagulation factors’ coagulation activity, and does not enhance the carboxylation of prothrombin in healthy individuals. This indicated that MK-7 administration does not alter hemostatic balance in healthy populations without anticoagulation treatment.
You’re essentially answering your own question as to why no millions are being invested in further research into the non-patentable K2 therapy… patents mean big money for the pharma industry.
I am currently using the one featured in the video from sports research. I take 5000 to 10,000 IU D3 and 400 MCG K2. Since each 5000 D3 comes only with 100 MCGK2, I bought extra K2 from the same manufacturer. This is of course, not medical advice and you should discuss this with your treating physician. You could also discuss the implementation of metabolic therapy with your treating physician. This has been very successful in my practice. There is a link in the video.
I am a retired podiatrist and came down with bladder cancer 2 years ago. It was surgically removed, and I had chemo and bcg treatments. My internist put me on 5000IU of Vit D and 200 mg of K2 MK-7. So far, the cancer has not come back. As far as the pharmaceutical companies not getting involved with Vit K2 is because there is no money in it. Also if the public found out that using Allulose, a simple sugar, was used in your coffee or on your cereal every day, you could get the same results as Ozempic and pharmaceutical companies could lose millions of dollars. Allulose binds to the same receptor site that Ozempic does and does not raise the glycemic index, but that is a video for another day. Just stumbled onto your video. Thank you for the great information.
I truly believe many, many doctors want to do the best for their patients, but aren't educated in nutrition and are greatly hampered by the administration in healthcare facilities. Most people don't understand what goes on behind the scenes with doctors at the administrative level. I went to see a cardiologist for preventative purposes, told him how my A1c dropped from 5.4 to 5.0 after starting 60mcg of K2 MK-7, and right there he says, "Oh," pulls it up on the computer and starts asking me if this is what I was talking about, pointing to the bottles online with D3 and K2 formulations. He had no clue.
Yes, we don’t learn much about the importance of vitamins and supplements in medical school. Our education is heavily influenced by the pharmaceutical industry. This is really a shame because when vitamins and minerals are deficient, our immune system is not working well and medications also will not give us the outcome they’re capable of.
Because there is more profit in chemo, surgery and radiation and most Drs know squat about nutritional cures. Big pharma is not interested in cheap cures. Chemo drugs are more profitable.
Same with everything government do. Make a big profit from food sugar industries. Drug company profit. Odd to think that doctors training in the 6 years doesn't include more than 8 hours in total with nutrition training. They test for vit D levels Don't think they would know what a vitamin K2 is. Said eggs were unhealthy at one time. Eat low fat? 🤣 Fill yourself with rice, pasta porridge? Eat a breakfast? Snack through the day? Fasting is the best medicine in what I've read. Do you.know if you read that garlic does shrink tumors in rats. They wouldn't do these tests, they just say it's not proved. So so cheap. A lot of people say there is a cure. How many researchers would lose their high paid jobs and high mortgages if they found one? K2 you can buy quite cheap in a shop. Or eat eggs, cheese yogurts any foods that have it. Nil profit.
50k pure profit from chemo patients
Sad but true.
Ivermectin and fenbendazole.
Excellent video. I am a biochemist myself but your explanation of this was first class. Cheers
Thank you, kindly! This means a lot coming from a fellow scientist. 🙏
@@JonasKuehneMD You are welcome my friend
Awesome video! Another great thing is that K2 plays a vital role in preventing arterial calcification by activating proteins that keep calcium out of blood vessels. Research shows that for every 10 micrograms of K2 consumed daily, cardiovascular mortality risk decreases by 9%.
Yes, I came across this statistic as well. Very fascinating. In my opinion, K2 is a very under-used vitamin in the general population.
@@YourWellnessJournal will it help with Prolong QT??
@@liberty8424 there are some studies related to this but not that extensively yet. And results seem to vary from person to person and situation to situation.
@@YourWellnessJournal thank you
9:15 totally right. I recently asked my doctor for some blood work on vitamins and she said that due to lack of scientific evidence the ensurance won't pay it. What a great medical system we have 😒
I’m sorry to hear that. As physicians we can be quite ignorant to non-pharmacologic treatments.
@@JonasKuehneMDI have a question about k7 for dental health , I read that k2 is good for gums and helps move calcium out of the Saliva and into bones and teeth ? My question is don’t we need calcium in our saliva and some in our blood ? I also read that k2 helps stop calculus from building up ? Because it moves the calcium , can you tell me more ? And is d3 and k2m7 safe to take ? I have to take vegan d3 I’m allergic to lanolin , I recently ( only for two days took a combo d3 k2 and the first day I felt great and then the second I was having chest pains and strange heart beat ? So I stopped immediately knowing that was the only variable at the time
I’d change PCP. My abdominal surgeon checks all vit and min twice a year for me. Rheumatoid and endocrine also check lots of vit, min, hormones etc
Hello from Canada! I’ve been taking 10000 iu’s of Vitamin D for 6 months after my last bloodwork showed I was deficient. After doing a bit of research, I’ve realized it should be taken with Mg (I use glycinate), and Vitamin K2. I have vitiligo and since dosing with these vitamins, I’ve noticed an increase in pigmentation all over my body.
That’s amazing! Seems like your auto immune disorder is responding to this. Vitamin D3 and K2 can greatly improve immune function. Very happy to hear this.
Can u please do a video on how they affect the immune system??
I know d3 is good for it but i didnt know k2 is also good.
@@JonasKuehneMD
@@Bujji0423 yes. I am serious. I’ll try and take a pic and show you. My arms have started to gain pigment where there was none.
I don’t know how to add a photo here but all along both my arms, I am gaining my original skin tone back. Plus I just feel better since taking Vitamin D.
@@Beans-great how long it took to notice the improvement after taking these vitamins?
We don't hear about this because a patient cured is a customer lost😢
Very true
Such an interesting video. Clear explaination and such valuable infornation that needs to be put out into the public domain.
Thank you so much for your kind words! This means a lot.🙏
Excellent video, just the right level of "technical" while still being comprehensible.
Thank you kindly! Very much appreciated.
Great and interesting video!
Some, I think, important remarks:
1) the MAX TESTED SAFE doses are as follows:
MK4: 45000 mcg/day, equals 45 mg
MK7: 3x7360 mcg/wk equals 7.4 mg.
The MK4 dose was tested by Japanese, MK7 dose is reported in "
Randomized Controlled Clinical Trial of the Effect of Treatment with Vitamin K2 on Vascular Calcification in Hemodialysis Patients (Trevasc-HDK)"
2) people treated with blood thinners of the Warfarin /Coumarin type cannot combine this with K2. They should consult with their prescribing physician to change their medication.
3. There is some conflicting information... I believed that MK7 is advantageous above MK4, but I read the following article from Dr. J. Neustadt: "
MK4 or MK7, Which is Better for Bones?"
OK, I hope this was helpful
Thank you for this information! There is some conflicting information if it can be used in people that have issues with blood clotting. There is also a small conversion between K1 and K2. I came across a few patients that could not tolerate MK four but we’re OK with MK seven interestingly.
MK7 at more than 200 mcg for a few months wud cause me heart palpitations, but not mk4 at 20 mg a day for 2 years so far.
Mk4 at 5 mg slowly adjusting to 20 mg a day, eliminated my frozen shoulder and many pains. If it stay in the body short, it cud also means they are being absorbed into the body cells instead of pushed out from the body
@@williamlee6079 Google "mk7 heart palpitations". The first item that comes up has a question about this and the long reply below it states the possible cause may be magnesium deficiency.
In my earlier, removed reply, I mentioned the website. YT clearly doesn't like this..
Which is better for bones? I’m severely osteoporotic
@Braveheartfield UA-cam keeps removing my reply
Angry Father here - we lost our young adult son recently to Ca which was treated for 3 years with chemotherapy and radiation from very early on and still didn't save him however his Dr warned him repeatedly against any alternatives including dietary changes and supplements including k2, Green tea, Vit C saying all of it was nonsense. Money speaks loudest.
I’m very sorry for your loss and completely understand your anger. It is very frustrating that physicians are not more supportive of non-pharmacological treatments that can be used together with traditional methods like chemotherapy. Even the off label use of medications like ivermectin should be considered as it is a very safe drug to administer. There is no guarantee that other modalities will have an impact, but I think it is important to try in order to improve the chances of the patient. There are many articles in the literature that show that the addition of high dose, intravenous vitamin C can increase the effectiveness of chemotherapy and decrease side effects. Many oncologist do not know about this.
@@JonasKuehneMDthe Medical industry is a corrupt DISGRACE and EVIL because this is a COMMON STORY
I'm so sorry!!! It's ENRAGING how HOSTILE the idiot medical industry/Doctors are to nutritional treatment at the expense of massive death toll of their patients who could have had a better chance at winning the fight and living
So sorry for your family, our. Son has cancer and thank God I we convinced him to not do chemo, but use the fendbendazole...I personally know people that are cured quickly from stage 4 mastesised cancer ! I have a strong feeling this is how the good lord wants to heal our son! God bless your family and fill the hole in your heart, knowing u will see your son again.
As does Fenbendazole, Ivermectin, Mebendazole, Itraconazole, Albendazole.
Great topic for another video.
@@JonasKuehneMD i’d love to see that.
@@JonasKuehneMDI would also very much appreciate to see a video about fenben, ivermectin etc etc
Please sir. And how ivermectin can kill bad breath and body. I think i gor those from my dogs kissing me. Reports from bristlehealth show i have positive and negative gram commensal bacteria. But I cant doctor or dentist that will look at report and help. Can ivermectin take care of the bacteria as well as any parasite I do not know of. Thank you. @JonasKuehneMD
Question is where can you get these meds?
Thank you Doctor, you are a courageous and integral Physician! You truly care for the welfare of the sick; The Education for the preventative measures needed to keep potential illnessess of the healthy at bay, regardless of big pharma's self serving pharmaceutical interests!❤
Thank you for your very kind words. I think this information is extremely important and may impact people’s lives positively, especially if they are suffering from medical conditions.
As physicians, we are taught to ignore non-pharmacologic compounds like vitamins and I think this is a big mistake.
Love your video. Thank you for your clear explanation.
You are so welcome!🙏
Dosage at 6:50 and, for general population, at 8:40.
I cannot give official advice on dosing on this channel. Personally, I use between 400 and 500 MCG K2 daily. The official suggestion is always to run every supplement by your treating physician.
Between 5000 and 10000 IU of D3 with 400 micrograms of K2
I’m taking 4,000 of vitamin D and 100 mcg of K2. I’m concerned about taking too much because I heard it can cause clotting.
Great video! In my view the missing link to why many people struggle with D3 and K2 levels is the accumulation of excessive amounts of vitamin A. In a vitamin A toxic state K2 and D3 are pushed out of the system. I wonder why vitamin A fortification is a thing, when it is not even hard to find in common foods and a toxicity has dire consequences. Vitamin A overload is easily one of the faster ways to get cancer to grow via the mechanisms you describe when K2 and D3 are lacking.
I also know that chances are high that my take is controversial and oversimplified, but still a sceptical debate on vitamin A should be had in nutrition science.
yes, not appropriate, as you say yourself. Retinol is higher in people being healthy and in very old people. I seems to be associated with healthy longevity. Direct effects on the methylation status have been demonstrated, turning cells into their younger selfs. That's why.
Now to your claim: the interaction between those vitamins you are pointing to are from in vitr studies. And their results are even conflicting.
Epidemiologically, vitamin A from natural sources is much more likely to be found as deficient than in concentations that would be toxic.
Thank you for pointing this out. I will do some research on this.
I don’t think A excess is common in people
What about NAC. Sounds a good thing. Mullen oil?
@@Fern_Yaz_Pets_Music But, NAC may be problematic in cancer patient?
Thank you Dr...just excellent information!
Glad it was helpful! 🙏❤️
Well done. Dr Thomas Seyfried from Boston College would be proud :)
Thank you kindly! He has done amazing work in this field.
Excellent video, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
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I just started K2 MK-7 anout a year ago, first 60mcg and now 120mcg. I think I will go up to 240mcg. I started it due to atherosclerosis and was interested in the effect on cholesterol. I got an unexpected result at just 60mcg - my A1c dropped from 5.4 to 5.0 and has stayed there. I already take D3 due to low vitamin D level. Am planning on lowering carbs, but I definitely can't go carnivore for many reasons, the medical reason being nausea from meat fats since childhood. Dairy fats and nuts are fine. Even magnesium, had no idea until a couple of months ago. Wanted to see if it would help with sleep, learned about deficiencies in people, got another unexpected result. I get burning in the bottom of my feet from a lot of walking and that has almost disappeared since taking 80 mg 3x a day of magnesium. Yeah, we have to be our own doctors and experiment on ourselves simply because doctors aren't taught and our healthcare systems are geared toward endstage treatment rather than diet and prevention.
Thank you for your detailed post. Yes, vitamin D3 and K2 are crucial for immune health, as well as blood sugar management. It’s great that you had these results even at 60 MCG. I currently take 400 MCG K2 MK7. Yes, it is a shame that this is not taught in medical school. We are missing great opportunities to treat diseases if we are not optimizing vitamins and minerals.
A high fat meat diet and low carbs (not keto) is actually the missing link for better health . Eating daily meat, eggs, butter and cheese will give all k2 the body needs. Once you get to this diet you loose weight, improve all blood exams, and the only deficiency you get is chronic diseases.
Except that we evolved eating high carb foods like fruit (we cannot make our own vitamin c unlike carnivores like dogs and cats and must get it from fruit and vegetables).
@@LouisW333I personally eat unlimited fruit and meat every day. But thats it no other carbs. I do not know how humans evolved but a high carb diet today is making people sick. Bread, flour, cakes, biscuits, candys, pizza, pasta, rice, skyrocket glucose levels, provide huge amount of energy that the body can not handle. And the vegetables have anti nutrients that may not allow absorption of vitamins like k2.
@@LouisW333 wrong. We did not evolve for hgh carbs. BS. You eat 1 red pepper per day, which is 200g total weight, with 30g of available carbs, to meet vit C easily.
There are hundreds of studies showing how high carb is causing all chrronic illnesses. but for you: RIP soon
@monnoo8221 one red pepper is nice but I like my carbohydrates to be varied, thank you.
@monnoo8221 you are conflating refined processed carbs with simple, natural carbs - it is the former that causes chronic illnesses.
Good video. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Do you think D3 and K2 should be taken separately, D3 in the morming and K2 in the evening?
I have not seen strong evidence to separate them out. I take both together in the morning.
Nice presentation! You might check out research by Leon Schurgers PHD. They used 2 mg in their study of mk-7 I. Have been on that dose for 11 months, recent bone scan of leg bone shows increase in density. I am also treating rectal C with conventional treatment and now with alternative help..Changing diet to high fat, moderate protein and very low carbs +.16 hr fast has been key.
Thank you for your comment. Yes, in your situation I agree that a higher dose is better. It looks like you are almost implementing metabolic therapy in your treatment regiment. I think this is a good idea. Other strategies you could discuss with your physician is intravenous vitamin C, at least one time per week between 25,000 and 75,000mg. Berberine and EGCG are the supplements that can help to decrease the uptake of glutamine. Again, I would always discuss everything with your treating physician.
Very informative video, thank you Dr Kuehne
You are very welcome
Weston Price called it
MK7 at more than 200 mcg for a few months wud cause me heart palpitations, but not mk4 at 20 mg a day for 2 years so far.
Mk4 at 5 mg slowly adjusting to 20 mg a day, eliminated my frozen shoulder and many pains. If it stay in the body short, it cud also means they are being absorbed into the body cells instead of pushed out from the body
That is very interesting. I will look more into the tolerance between the two.
that was spot on. It is amazing. Thank you very much for sharing.
Unfortunately, most k2 preparations are fairly low dosed.
As to why natural substances are disregarded: That's not an issue that originates from medicine, it's from a broader cultural context. Nature is still perceived by many as the enemy, which has to be overcome by means of engineering. All the materialistic, modernist and positivistic attitudes are informed by that. as medical professionals, you can evade that only by returning prior to the rise of engineering... just as you did, as far back as to Hippocrate. One gets all to easy assigned the quack property, or the flower pwer along with a certain naivity. believing in engineering means beleieving in linearity, top down control free of context.
The first ones investigating natural ingredients for their power with state of the art methods where the Indians, in the late 1990ies and early 2000's. I remember a paper that demonstrated that curcumin enhanced macrophages in their readiness for phagocytosis.
Thank you for this great explanation! Yes, we have an inherent arrogance that only scientific progress is worth pursuing. There are many great natural and repurposed medications with incredible efficacy. Our profit model of medicine gets in the way here, unfortunately.
Thanks you doctor for the interesting vedeo
You are welcome
Hello from Belgium Dr. Jonas. I supplement with 10,000 Vit D3 + K2 daily (in the winter) from Nutralie.
I also supplement with Lugol's 5% on an empty stomach every morning.
Could you kindly tell us if Celtic Salt) or "le sel de Guérande" sold here in Europe, is free from heavy metals, lead and arsenic ?
Celtic salt may have elevated levels of lead. The reviews and testing are not consistent here though. I currently use Redmond salt. I love Belgium, especially your chocolate and pastries! I am also impressed that you can speak several languages fluently. It’s the only country where I have observed this.
@@JonasKuehneMD You should come to Switzerland, we also have good chocolate and speak several languages ;)
Check out 'mamavation' for unbiased third party testing. Celtic Redmond Himalayan Baja sea 🧂and others had above regulatory limits of heavy metals especially lead. Himalayan pink salt has the addtion of iron oxide. Lake Deborah salt here in Australia is one of the lowest and is independently tested by a Univeristy. I've heard Colima sea salt is well below the safety limit and also free of microplastics
@@doejohn8674 Especially Swiss Lindt Excellence chocolate is rich in... heavy metals 😉.
Come to Poland, we have vodka and pierogi.
Great video as always! Thank you !
Thank you so much! Highly appreciated 🙏❤️
Hi what brand of Vitamin K2 and D3 are you taking?
I currently take the one from sports research that I showed in this video. There are many other brands that are good as well. The K2 that comes with the vitamin D3 is too low in my opinion. I therefore bought extra K2 by itself. My current dose is 10,000 IU D3 with 400 MCG K2.
Thank you very much for the information.
Glad it was helpful!
Do vitamin K2 remove pre-cancerous cells in the body if it is taken along with d3
K2 has been shown to trigger apoptosis in cancer cells. I have not seen literature if cells in the early stages of becoming a cancer cell, in other words pre-cancer cells would be affected here.
Thank you so much for the information. I have been taking D3 of 10000IUs daily, how much K2 in the version of MK4 should I take to accompany with? I cant tolerate the MK7 version.
Not medical advice, but in general, it is a higher dose than for the MK seven version. Usually on the order of 1 mg.
I must state two major critical points you missed in this presentation:
1. When you state you take 400 micrograms of “K2”, you did not mention how much MK-4 & MK-7 which is part of vitamin K2 one should be taking as a healthy person to prevent cancer development.
2. Vitamin D3 does depend upon the presence of enough magnesium which acts as a cofactor for vitamin D3 to actually work to regulate about 2,000 or so genes in our bodies.
..re point #1..vitamin K is fat soluble…therefore is stored in body…so I really didn’t understand how MK4 can be shorter acting…
Yes, you should always take it with magnesium. As mentioned I was referring to MK-7 only in this video.
To clarify, take vit D, K2 and magnesium at the same or just in the same day?
This is the reason for the lack of info on the anticancer properties: There's no money to be made!! That's it
Sadly, correct.
That's very interesting. I've been taking 10k IU of Vit-D and 200 mcg of K2 for several years now, but it sounds like I've been under-dosing the K2 all this time. Given the potential anti-cancer effects, I think I'll increase the K2. However, I'm quite curious to hear your thoughts on the interaction between Vit-K2 and Nattokinase, since there seems to be some overlap between the two.
Yes, Nattokinase is containing a high level of vitamin K2. It would still be very difficult to take too much vitamin K2 as studies up to 42,000 MCG per day for two years have shown no adverse effects. I am considering increasing from 400 MCG to 1mg.
It’s so hard to find a properly dosed mk7 supplement
Yes, most of them come in 100 MCG. I am using a D3 plus K2 with 5000 IUD three and 100 MCG K2, and then I take 2 to 3 additional 100 MCG K2 capsules. I am not yet eating enough sauerkraut or kimchi.
Check out Mitolife supplements.They are higher doses and very high quality.
great video. well done
Thank you very much!🙏
Vitamin K2 makes me feel less lazy 🦥 !
Amazing! I will up my dose now 🤔😅
Any research of mega dose Vitamin k2 on different metabolic diseases such as Atherosclerosis CKD Stroke Foot Ulcers Cancers etc?
I have to look at research using larger amounts of this. It seems safe in extremely high amounts, so it would be interesting to see what larger doses can do for a variety of diseases.
@JonasKuehneMD RFK Jr maybe can help finance
Hi! How much K2 daily for 50,000iu of Vit D?
That is quite a high dose of vitamin D3. Make sure you do check your labs and talk to your physician if appropriate. Not official medical advice of course but if I took that dose, I would probably take 1000 MCG or 1 MG K2.
thanks for the information. I need to rethink the supplements I take.
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If medicine was geared around what people need and what works, we'd be using healthier, less damaging, and less expensive methods.
Individual people are usually willing to treat others kindly and well. But when we get to large medical corporations, somehow they forget about being kind and helpful, and will endlessly repeat the profit-making approach of the bean counters: stripping out quality and value until the customer finally goes away. Which is a disaster for the health industry and humanity.
Very true. That’s what we need true independent government agencies to oversee these corporations. It does not seem like we have this at the moment…
Does the amount of K-2 daily dosages increase proportionally in relation to the amount of D-3 taken daily, as well ? For example, if you're taking 400 mg of K-2 in tandem with 5-10,000 IU's, does that mean that for higher does of D-3... such as 50,000 to 100,000 IU's... that the corresponding dosage of K-2 also, be increased to 4,000 mg's of K-2 ?
Yes, to some extent. I don’t think you need to go with more than 1mg or 1000mcg K2 daily even at higher doses of vitamin D3.
@@JonasKuehneMD Thank-you !!
Great video. Grüsse aus Dänemark.
Thank you! I spent many summers there in my youth (Saltum) Beautiful country!
MK4 is animal based and can be found in butter and organ meats. I disagree that it is largely synthetic.
Dr Barrie Tan says all vitamin K gets turned into mk4 in the body ua-cam.com/users/shortstgn0htjuqJM
You are correct, it can also be naturally produced. A majority of supplements, though is synthetically produced:
Vitamin K2 MK4, also known as menaquinone-4, is a type of Vitamin K2 that is commonly found in animal-based and fermented foods. The term 'MK4' stands for 'menaquinone-4'. Both natural and synthetic forms of this supplement exist. Synthetic Vitamin K2 MK4 is made by converting the plant-based vitamin K1 into K2 MK4 in a laboratory setting.
Does k² afects clothing? Can a factor V take it ?
K2 should not affect blood clotting. I would still check with your treating physician. There is a small conversion between K1 and K2.
MK4 has better bio availability because of the fact that MK7 has to be converted first to MK4 to be utilised.Also MK7 can effect your cardiac rhythms and cause an elevated heart rate.
Yes, some people tolerate MK4significantly better than MK7.
@@JonasKuehneMD Not just that Jonas.MK4 has been shown to strengthen bones while MK7 has not.
very interesting 🤔
Glad you think so!
I thought that K2 and D3 compete for receptors on the cell and therefore should be taken at different times of day, not together. Comment?
They do not compete for receptors and can be taken together.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5613455/
like Keithzzzzt says : lol The reason they don't study K2 and D3 therapy is because there is no profit in it ! 🙄
Sadly, very true.
I believe that was sarcasm when you wondered why there were no trials?
The answer is: because there is no financial incentive to research a natural compound that cannot be patented
Correct! This is where the government should finance research; but they are financially influenced
Redox Signaling Molecules are the foundation of cellular health. I drink them every day.
I make kefir with whole milk and try to have a small glass daily
Amazing! I eat Greek yogurt daily, but do not have the patience or skill to make it.
It would be so helpful if you could tell us how you make kefir from milk ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The answer is probably big pharma and that there is no money is prescribing these cheap supplements!
Very true!
7:54 I love the irony here. :)
Sad but true 🫣😅
Yeah healthcare today cares more about the money and not so much about the health care. It should be rebranded as Health-moneycare.
Good point!
Government should study this, not private companies
Yes!
You think our government has our better interests in mind?
@ good point
Governmental agencies have now been captured by industry money.
You still trust the government to do something good? My my.
When you are speaking about how much “vitamin K2” to take and what you claim to be taking, there is absolutely no mention of which methequinone whether it be MK4 or MK 7 or MK9 in what relative amounts of these subgroups of K2 to take!!! As you may know, those 3 subgroups of K2 have different functions & half lives as well as where these subgroups go inside the body !!! You mentioned that you take around 400 micrograms of “K2” but you didn’t mention if that was MK7 or not which I am assuming that’s the amount of MK7 that you’re taking for yourself. Can you please elaborate on which subgroups should be taken at some minimum amount! Thank you
Yes, as I mentioned in the beginning of the video, I’m referring to the MK-7 form here. The MK-4 form is also OK to use but has a shorter half-life. Some people tolerate MK-4 better than MK-7. I take 400 to 500 mg K2 MK-7 daily currently. Vitamin K1 is of course very different and involved in blood clotting. This is something that I would not suggest to supplement beyond what’s available in food.
Lol, I literally just ordered this vitamin and took one and then this came up.
Amazing! 😅🙏
Were you also aware that vitamin D3 doesn’t work efficiently and effectively unless there is enough magnesium present to act as a vital cofactor to this steroid molecule, vitamin D3. I think we really require that “trifecta” of nutrients which is
1. Vitamin D3 @ 50 to 100 ppb
2. Vitamin K2 @ 300 milligrams MK7 + 40,000 milligrams MK4
3. Magnesium-L-glycinate @ 450 mg as Mg in men & 350 mg in women
Yes, the combination with magnesium, K2 and zinc is very important.
K2 MK-7 is definitely involved in clotting.
From pubmed:
MK-7 supplementation at recommended dosage does not affect vitamin K-dependent coagulation factors’ coagulation activity, and does not enhance the carboxylation of prothrombin in healthy individuals. This indicated that MK-7 administration does not alter hemostatic balance in healthy populations without anticoagulation treatment.
Some people advise to take the D3 and K2 at different times so that they don't interfere with each other for absorption.
I have not seen good evidence for this in the literature. I usually do take them together because otherwise I will forget.
You did figure it out: because it is "cheap."
Sadly, that might be the reason.
You’re essentially answering your own question as to why no millions are being invested in further research into the non-patentable K2 therapy… patents mean big money for the pharma industry.
I know. I’m still hopeful that at some point the government will invest in funding some of these studies that corporations will not.
8:10 HAHAHAHAHA!
I have cll I’m on an immunotherapy treatment called Acalabrutinib. I would like to take this supplement. Can you please recommend a good brand.
Make sure it is the MK7 version
@ thank you💕
I am currently using the one featured in the video from sports research. I take 5000 to 10,000 IU D3 and 400 MCG K2. Since each 5000 D3 comes only with 100 MCGK2, I bought extra K2 from the same manufacturer. This is of course, not medical advice and you should discuss this with your treating physician. You could also discuss the implementation of metabolic therapy with your treating physician. This has been very successful in my practice. There is a link in the video.
I take a 5000 vit D that has 200mg K2- MK 7 by Now.
I am a retired podiatrist and came down with bladder cancer 2 years ago. It was surgically removed, and I had chemo and bcg treatments. My internist put me on 5000IU of Vit D and 200 mg of K2 MK-7. So far, the cancer has not come back. As far as the pharmaceutical companies not getting involved with Vit K2 is because there is no money in it. Also if the public found out that using Allulose, a simple sugar, was used in your coffee or on your cereal every day, you could get the same results as Ozempic and pharmaceutical companies could lose millions of dollars. Allulose binds to the same receptor site that Ozempic does and does not raise the glycemic index, but that is a video for another day. Just stumbled onto your video. Thank you for the great information.
You keep pointing at invisible videos. Are you seeing dead videos?
Dang… I am. Thank you for pointing this out
Because it's not patentable of course!
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Good explanation! 😅
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@@JonasKuehneMD Looks Expen$ive!
Fix your audio!!
seems fine to me 🤔
Me too!@@rhombifer566
Sounds fine to me too.