Dont like the editing in the trailer re Tim's vaccinations. Click baiting reduces confidence imo and thats too precious to throw away in such a debate.
Absolutely agree. I was actually fixated on watching those two parts of the interview and concluded that they slowed down the video in order to introduce a pause that made the viewer wonder if Tim got vaccinated which of course he did. Then the questions about another pandemic. Guys, this is cheap clicks stuff and not worthy of Zoe. Especially given the number of peer reviewed papers that came out of this Covid study.
Reading between the lines... he has stopped having the vaccine, possibly because covid is no longer the threat it was or he does not think it's safe enough. Who knows.
The clickbait style intro on "oh did he take the vaccine glum face" not helpful here. Why play games with this topic at all, when there are such powerful anti vax movements online. Be clear and stick to the science on it.
@@johnclarke8492 "powerful antivax movement" Jesus Christ. You must be one of those people who supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Propaganda is bad for you.
Hi! I listen to your podcasts every week while driving! After this one I just wanted to comment about the schools. I agree that it was bad for the kids that the schools closed, but it wasn’t as simple as them infecting grandparents. The schools aren’t children alone, there are adult teachers of all ages and risk levels, school secretaries, school nurses, administration etc. I’ve worked as a teacher for almost 30 years and kids have no problem coughing or sneezing in your face (by accident of course) when you get close to help them with their work, they don’t always wash their hands, and they touch everything! I don’t know what the right answer is for a pandemic as far as schools, but there is more to consider than the kids alone. Thanks!!! Heather
Good point. And, as you know, many teachers are in tbe 50+ age group with presumably partners at home also in that age category. Closing schools for a few months probably helped reduce transmission rates. Not all children suffered mental health issues by having a few months at home - controversial point to end!
@@stringsandthreads What about people like me who had to continue working, I am a supermarket worker and in the fortnight before lockdowns the stores were full of panic buying shoppers, the infections hadnt quite reached the peak. The interesting ting is that none of us caught covid in those 2 weeks. By the end of the summer only 2 colleaques out of a total of 114,000 died from covid.
Saved me writing the same thing. Also, what about NHS staff? Do we expect them to go through the hell they went through last time? What can be done there?
My sympathies to you. I had LC for 16 months. I changed my diet WFPB then did a medically supervised 5 day water fast. Fully resolved fatigue and all symptoms. It is possible to recover, don't give up searching for your path to recovery ❤
I also have Long-covid. Got covid in January 2023 and never recovered. Terrible illness. I am on medications to help with symptoms, but nothing cures. They need to show more medical support and provide more funding for Long-covid research.
Probably caused by ultra processed junk foods. It affects your immune system. Also you are deficient in vitamin D. Best thing you can do is eat real foods and get fresh air and sun outside.
Thanks for this review. The Zoe work was so helpful during the first year or two of the pandemic, it’s a shame that Government were so sceptical. Great the way you were able to identify new symptoms, and provide the earliest data on where infection numbers were increasing around the country. Well done.
Tim suggests that schools should have remained open. If that was the policy it's likely the schools would have been closed anyway. Staff sickness would have wiped out the staff, many of whom are elderly teachers, class assistants or admin staff. You can't run schools with skeleton staff.
23:44 A friend worked in a lab that sometimes handled very dangerous transmissible pathogens. Despite all sorts of safety protocols, people make mistakes. Sometimes the wrong thing got sent to the wrong place with the wrong level of safety measures. When it arrives at its destination it might not immediately appear to be the highly dangerous substance it is unless the recipient is paying attention. I honestly believe we're lucky that this sort of thing doesn't happen every few months.
if 'people' make mistakes in such labs with strict protocols (I used to write them when I worked in NHS diagnostic laboratories), then they are liable for severe consequences. You either misunderstood or your 'friend' was exaggerating or it's made-up.
@@88batteristaall fingers crossed! My worst symptom is POTS - postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome 😢 (gravity is my enemy) 😢 I hope that we will recover soon! It is strange that I was super healthy! Eating/following Zoe program! Going to the gym almost everyday! I miss going to the gym …
I didn't get jabbed, didn't wear a mask, mixed with lots of people, ate healthy and took my vit C etc. I haven't had a cold or flu since 2007 and I didn't catch this deadly disease, either.
@@flumpaustin1994people like you who deny Covid and it’s effects totally infuriate me! I wish I could have taken you to work with me during pandemic(I am a critical care nurse), wish you went through what we needed to, wish you had the long term consequences of struggling through covid instead of me. Wish you knew what you talk about!
I remember a big problem for schools was that lots of teachers needed to shield or were off sick and the schools couldn't run safely even before official lock down.
@@froukehermens2176 yet we made them live in isolation for nearly 2 years because of that fear at a devastating cost to their well being in the long run... We have permanently damaged an entire generation because of that fear...
For all the good work done, I do remember these podcasts downplaying the risks posed by the 2020 Christmas wave as it was developing (I know the variant was an extra curveball, but things still were not looking great), and also downplaying Long Covid, focusing heavily on their app study, but citing little other evidence, leaving the risks, and communicating the seriousness of the long covid risks, underestimated on this podcast. These are serious lessons to take forward for science communicators. From a someone with long covid symptoms since 2021, who was put somewhat at ease by this podcast at the time, falsely. But I still heavily commend many aspects of the good work of course, but more humility, and consideration of others work, can only help. It would also be nice to know the state of play now, so as not to repeat the same mistake - what is the risk of long covid from new infections now? Discussion of this science has essentially died, but I imagine papers about new infections are still being published, and given the majority of covid's health burden will be long covid, we are still leaving ourselves underinformed (I hope the news is good though, but that is not based on hard evidence).
@@flossie1947 What point specifically? Personalisation or something else? I commended the work twice, I'm just saying it didn't really consider much other work and the potential limitations of the methodology (unavoidable). More from a communication standpoint. Similar might be the sunscreen comments made more recently - it doesn't mean there isn't some valid points in there, but sometimes it's the degree of confidence one shows and how one puts it, that's all I mean. But I appreciate these things are a challenge. The key is to acknowledge that and bring in other voices and researchers also (like they do now on zoe, but in the pandemic, it seemed less collaborative in this way). But I am open to my perceptions also being not perfect of course, it's how it came across to me.
There is excellent ongoing information, and appraisals of studies as they appear, on TWIV (This Week in Virology) and continuing updates on Long Covid/PASC on the weekly TWIV Clinical Updates with Dr Daniel Griffin here on UA-cam.
@MezMezMez1 gf hasn't had it. She is on medication for an autoimmune disease and doesn't make new antibodies because of it we have to be very careful still, especially as getting antivirals in time , if she did catch it, is a lottery.
@@fluffyheed9166 They are trying to develop antibodies they can just inject into immunosuppressed patients to give them protection. In 2022 astra zenica produced one which worked and was rolled out to clinically vulnerable people in 32 countries including most of the EU and the USA. This country takes so long to approve new drugs that it stopped being as effective against the newest variants before it could be used and NICE/The Tory govt decided it wasn't worth the money to allow it to be used on the NHS but said people could buy it privately at a cost of £2000 every 6 months. At the end of 2023, astra zenica's new version of the drug was approved in France and the USA. This country still wouldn't change their approval process so it's still not been rolled out and is starting to lose it's effectiveness against the current variants. They had aimed to make a decision in Dec, then it got pushed back to Jan, march and finally may 2025. About a month ago they suspended the assessment. America has another antibody they're using but they won't roll it out here because the approval process takes too long and they don't think the UK will pay £5000 per person either. So until this country changes their approval process to be able to fast track the roll out it'll be this way. Avoiding busy places. Not going into pubs, restaurants etc and wearing masks in shops. There are 1 million vulnerable people doing the same. The new labour government have already met with campaign groups fighting for vulnerable people with the aim of fast tracking the process so hopefully there will be something that is available and works in the near future. If they don't change the process , drug companies won't bother even trying to roll anything out in this country as it's all changing too quickly. Since the first drug developed was proven to be effective, in mid 2022, 70,000 clinically vulnerable people have died from Covid. Currently levels are fairly low countrywide but on average 12 people per day are dying from it . And they are almost exclusively vulnerable or old.
I’m healthy (I’m plant based - eat mostly whole foods and I’m active - I don’t have any healthy issues, not even headaches or period pain), and I was vaxxed 3 times. First time I had covid was just 2 days after my second vax and it was Christmas eve. It was awful. For a day everything ached, even my teeth and my toes. I felt so hot, I had my bedroom window open and I had to take all my clothes off whilst it was 2 degrees outside. I don’t take meds so I didn’t have painkillers at home. Next day I felt a lot better - it was more like a cold. In total I had at least covid 5 times. First day it is always a bit weird, it’s not like a cold at all, but then the day after it seems fine for me, but I can imagine how it can be very damaging for someone who’s not healthy and has a bad lifestyle. Covid is not like a cold!
It doesn't explain why past knowledge and knowledge that other experts tried to impart at the time was ignored, not just the great Barrington declaration but a lot of other things.
Hmm I wonder why the great barrington declaration was ignored?… tough one that one is… jk. It’s because it was from a libertarian think tank. It was purely political, and its purpose was to allow business and corporations to keep making money, while basically ignoring covid. “The World Health Organization (WHO) and numerous academic and public-health bodies stated that the strategy would be dangerous and lacked a sound scientific basis.”
Yes, this podcast was just the familiar Tim narrative. He's the guru, but actually he ignores stuff (like the GBD) and uses evidence selectively. I first noticed this in The Diet Myth, and he's still the same. Much as I admired the Zoe initiative in 2020 (and he deserved his gong), he just doesn't move on. Incidentally, I'm still submitting a daily report - where's all that data going? The app seems dead.
I will never have another so called mRNA vaccine. Too many serious injuries have been suffered and little was mentioned about that. This is a serious matter that it seems future vaccines are and will be produced by this genetic type method.
I certainly would not. Lied to and misled into the 2. Realised the idiocy once Omnicron came around (natural vaccine) yet they still wanted to give it to my children?!
The odd thing in my family and circle of friends is that the only symptomatic Covid is being suffered by family or friends who have had a booster fairly recently. One of the problems is that the vaccine produecers say you shouldnt have the vaccine if you have recently had Covid. However with the tests being potentially ineffective on the current strains many people are probably having asymptomatic or barely symptomatic covid and then having a booster and having a bad bout of Covid which may be a reaction to mild Covid combined with a booster
@SiRushBass indeed. Because the Western authorities choose not to inform us and try hard to suppress reports issued which don't support their narrative. After 40 years in a professional career trained to be sceptical and having dealt with governments, regulators and global corporations I'm not going to stop being sceptical now. I don't know the answers but I'm not accepting official answers that have little or no real scientific evidence
At the beginning of covid I starting taking Vitamin C Vitamin D zinc and making my own daily juice - from a variety of fruits and veggies. I’m 63, and I’ve never had covid nor have I been vaccinated - but do run regularly. A good diet, regular exercise and rest I believe, are the essential ingredients to a healthy immune system not forgetting having good friends and family around, working purposefully and a strong faith.
Another problem was that so many people have unknown underlying health conditions, so many presumed healthy people fared poorly. So many have undiagnosed diabetes, hypertension and cardiovascular disease and we now know those people fared the worst with Covid.
The Spanish flu particularly killed the healthy part of the population. Covid affected the elderly, but you cannot conclude that a virus always affects the elderly most. Bird flu is likely to affect children badly. Are we then still going to keep schools open?
I do not think that 'free' is a reason to take a jab, he Cleary realised it was not appropriate for hm to continue.......but I respect your decision to take all the jabs you are offered for free.
What this disucussion underlines is the importance of trust. If the authorities are seen to be lieing than their guidelines on vaccines will be rejected by rational citizens. The recent report from the US that the Covid virus came out of biowarfare by the US using Chinese labs, simply amplifies this basic problem of trust.
The chance of two truly unrelated events happening within such a short time in someone’s lifetime is exceedingly small, assuming the events (first dose of vaccine and disappearance of sinus infection) are rare. A probability expert would be able to give a more precise answer.
I had covid when it first come out I was so ill and so lucky to be here but I don't eat much been in hospital with my lungs I have had 4 lots of the covid jab. But it made me so ill know I can not have it
As someone who runs clinical trials, when discussing vaccines, the term side effects and adverse events are different. Side effects are headache, fatigue, arm pain, etc within the first few days of getting it. These are not rare. AEs are like POTS, longterm hives, high blood pressure, heart issues in general, etc. These are rare but still very much happen. I'm in VAERS myself due to an AE that lasted 7 months.
Thanks for the comments on long covid. After getting Covid in Feb 2020 and having long covid ever since this really needs publicising. It's Awful and my life is nothing like it used to be. The medical profession look on you as if it's the first time they have ever seen it and the only help I have had has been via doing my own research.
You were unlucky to catch a early variant of covid! Once Omicron came along which was much less serious! Africa call Omicron the vaccine they never had to give them immunity!!
My sympathies to you, and I also had some improvement with nattokinase. I had LC for 16 months. I changed my diet WFPB then did a medically supervised 5 day water fast. Fully resolved fatigue and all symptoms. It is possible to recover, don't give up searching for your path to recovery ❤
@@LetThoseOatsRoll Thanks, many of my neurological problems have lessened but Covid gave me Myocarditis, which MRI showed had cleared, but I'm still left with my pulse going plus 150 on the slightest thing, eg having a shower, and my cardiologist referred me back to my GP despite my protestations!! (Even though he can see it on my loop recorder.)
I totally understand and I am sorry for the anxiety this causes. I also take immune suppressant medication for an autoimmune condition. I did get Covid three times. The first two times I was given the anti-virals which helped a lot. The third time was two months ago but it seemed much milder so I didn't take the antivirals. It is important to note that the extent to which a medication lowers the immune system varies a lot so it is not helpful to compare one person to another. I hope your gf stays safe and that others are considerate. (Some people in public places cough and sneeze without covering up and that really annoys me!)
It was the forth covid vaccination that made me feel so ill😢 it was my second Pfizer, one after the other. I’m still breathless and feel a great weight on my chest.
Most children may have experienced the acute stage of a Covid infection as “ like a cold “, but nothing was known of the long - term sequelae ( and still not known ), thus there was much at stake in terms of the precautionary principle re school lockdowns. In addition, children would become infected at school and bring the virus home to vulnerable family members. What the potential harm done to children through knowing they were responsible for infecting their beloved family members ?
I can't disagree with your point, but a balance is needed somewhere. Genuine disruption to society, schooling , travel, work and running up vast government debt has far worse consequences than the infection which ultimately we have all had.
@@jamebrowyes, I agree and introducing measures in schools to mitigate risk of transmission such as increased air filtration would be helpful. Early in the pandemic, there was nothing known about this virus and lock downs were precautionary. As we learned more about the airborne nature of transmission, what was distressing to me was the sole focus on handwashing as a preventative measure.
Yes, it's frustrating the lack of care in our school systems for updating ventilation and HVAC. The mounting evidence we have on Covid's effects on the brain and IQ levels are alarming. No one should be letting their child be infected multiple times, yet so few are reading the science literature on long covid, etc.
@@jamebrow How can you be so sure that not going to school was causing the distress in children, not seeing their parents and grandparents get ill or die (and in distress) possibly from the virus that they picked up in school? Why do suicides in children go down during the summer break? Not all children enjoy school (particularly if they are bullied).
@@circa1890 It is like trying to put new information into their brains while also actively killing their brain cells with repeated Covid infections. It just does not make sense. At all.
From a health economic and even public health point of view in particular it was an absolute disaster. If the gov had only listened to Prof Heneghan’s group at the time.
Started using the app when advised of it by Nurses Health Study II. Worked as a nurse through Covid in the USA--thankfully on the Med Surg end rather than ICU. Best thing to come out of all of it was discovering that you hadn't gone away when Covid ended and that you have a wonderful nutrition podcast! (I had assumed Zoe was just invented for Covid)
Tim - you seem out of date on the type of side effects that may now be evident and whilst there have been many studies the ones that appear to produce worse results as regards the danger of side effects are being suppressed. Lets indeed have full transparency in all respects and have proper trials of new vaccines
Schools are just huge germ factories. So wasn't the shutting down of schools not just due to the death rate but also the rate of long covid which seems to have already left many countries with large swathes of people long term ill and unable to work? Along with filling up hospital beds everywhere of course. I wouldn't mind betting that schools would have been a great place for new variants to form as well 😀
I had long covid before the vaccinations were available. Reacted very badly to AstraZeneka which gave me full blown covid symptoms, rash but also attacked my joints and I could not walk! Hospital said it was a reaction and I started improving after physio but still suffer problems with my knees. I still took moderna and Pfizer later.
There were plenty 40-50 year olds going to hospital and going under to be ventilated. Remember not to be very eugenicy, that may be its own mental health issue. There were vulnerable people who were refused ventilation in 2021. Let the bodies pile high was not a fondly remembered policy. Infantilization of people is not good either and pandering to those who throw their toys out of the pram. Sometimes people have to do hard things and suck it up. Preferably not eugenics though.
I have 4 of Tim Spector's books, respect him a lot as a researcher, that is until he said his research on whether vit D had any effect on covid-19 where the research used 1,000ui and not the now recommended 10,000ui - showed no effect at all.
I am so glad you started this your app and your advice was very much appreciated, I joined you on 24th March 2020 and reported 781 days . Excellent project fabulous team. If I remember correctly your information was ahead of government’s and more accurate. Thankyou
I’ve great respect for what Tim’s done in raising awareness of gut health importance but when you look at all the data coming out on injury from the novel thing in potentially millions of people I think he’s either in denial or not aware like so many people.
You are so lucky if you think it’s over. For those of us with an impaired immune system, such as people with blood cancer, it has never gone away. I’m still having to ‘shield’ and avoid any crowded places, as it is potentially life-threatening to me.
Anyone who wants to protect their health should take steps to avoid is (at least put on an FFP2 mask when going somewhere indoors with other people). I don't understand that people can talk about improving diets on the other hand and not doing anything to avoid Covid on the other hand. It is like taking up smoking, while following a rigorous diet and exercise regime.
One of the reatures not mentioned was in the early days there was a reconciliation of statistics with criteria with the government in which confidence was low.
Interesting conversation about the symptoms about the persistent cough because when I had Covid in 2021. I had no cough at all, loss of smell for 24 hours and a really, really stuffy nose... but no cough at all. I know several other people who had covid and never coughed.
my wife has developed micro Crohn's and has developed psoriatic arthritis she is being given different drugs to try and manage the flare-ups and symptoms. Inflammation is the cause of the symptoms and the drugs are designed to manage this. However, it feels like she is being moved from drug to drug in a never-ending experiment to find a drug that works with both conditions. Naturally, she is wary of changing her diet as she doesn't know what the impact would be. Have you done any research into this area and are there any resources we could look at to help her on her quest? Many thanks.
ZOE should stick to nutritional studies. Everything in this podcast about the so-called Covid-19 "pandemic" is an insult to the intelligence of those who have rigorously followed all the science.
Thank you to the Zoe Team for that you did during Covid... Using the Zoe App and applying the lessons from the data I stayed Covid free, right through to September 2024... by which time I had the vaccination and all of the follow-up boosters (... even so, I was unwell for seven weeks after coming down with Covid). 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Well done and thank you!
I was 64 years old at the time of this event. I received 2 vaccines, the second one, in March 2022. In August, I suffered from covid for about 3 weeks. 2 weeks after I recovered, I was hit with a very serious UTI, my first in my life. I had blood work done and discovered my PSA was 62. After a series of tests and biopsies, I was diagnosed with Gleason 8 aggressive prostate cancer. One data point doesn't result in a pattern. Have you come across any other cases such as mine?
I caught nothing during the entire pandemic. I'm a nurse in a hospital and I'm usually sick with something contagious at least twice a year. I didn't get sick until the masks came off. They worked.
I had a similar experience. I’m a respiratory therapist and wore a mask every time I was around anyone indoors, for a few years. I didn’t catch even a cold during that time.
Why do people such as these always seem to miss the point of the public wearing a mask? Its purpose is NOT to protect the wearer, it is to protect everyone else from the wearer. So the most important area of mask use not even discussed. Not wearing a mask did not save your life but you may have killed someone else from a vulnerable group.
Considering the porosity of many masks (600microbes) and the molecular size of the virus (5microbes) I’m not sure how it protected either public or mask user. Those big plastic shield masks were effective. Personally, I think the masks served as a ubiquitous reminder to be scared (this is only my opinion and not backed by evidence).
I used the Covid app and found it really good then when it stopped Zoe went off my radar. But when the Zoe UA-cam podcast showed up of my news feed the other week I thought I’d take a listen on the subject of Extra Virgin Olive Oil. Which was very interesting. Now Moving on from that podcast i have some Extra Virgin Olive Oil on its way to me and a subscriber to Zoe science & Nutrition Daily 30+. Thank you Tim and team for all your hard work!!
Having worked in many labs, BSL 2/3, and read pretty much every FOIA'd document on Covid origins.. it does look like it was an accident. That is bad enough, though. I now work with organizations to mitigate these types of experiments.
So lets be clear Tim you have only had the first 2 covid vaccines and 1 booster about nov 2021 , are YOU going to have a covid vaccine this winter!! I think NOT!!!
Surely it is about risk, is it not? If the Covid strains are less threatening there is less need for a vaccination unless you have high risk factors. We are not in the position we were in during the first year of the infection.
I have had my booster every year since my first three because I don’t like the way long covid affected me after my first infection. Also as an asthmatic over 60 I am higher risk and as a physician I am in contact with patients every day. I also wear my FFP2 every time I have an infectious patient.
I find this so fascinating. My husband had Covid twice but I never did. We both had all the vaccines and boosters. The only difference was I ate a plant-based diet and he didn’t.
another difference, you a woman, he a man. another difference: your entire genetic makeup, unless he is your brother. another difference .... and so on. we don't need people bias towards what they reckon, that is what made this mess in the first place
I’m not getting a Covid shot this year. First shot pain in injection site. Second shot pain in arm from shoulder to elbow lasting 24 hours. Third shot pain in arm from shoulder to wrist lasting about 36 hours. Fourth shot I received both Covid and flue shot. Each shot was in different arm and I had severe pain in both arms that lasted 72 hours.
Closing the schools here in the early days in Australia would have spread the virus more rapidly via the children, to parents, older teachers and grandparents like me who do school picks and duties to support working parents, and who might also be looking after their aged parents. I don’t understand your view on school, nor do I understand why you have only had 3 vaccinations.
If after SARS COV2 infection cryoglobuline IgM level increase,or If ,,cold agglutinine,, occur, at that patients pulse oximetry indicate lower values at finger level ,where blood temperature decrease, and blood viscousity increase (reversibile)(inducing ischemia) And paradoxal happy hypoxia was seen. Oxigenoterapy with low temperature oxigen mix in that specific case,can decrease blood temperature at lung capillary level.
Using warmed oxigen mix at body temperature,in that specific case, oxigen saturation increased more and rapidly. When I warmed water in barbotor ( on ambulance) I see that oxigen saturation increased more and rapidly.
Lockdowns and school shutdowns were so detrimental to children. Hopefully, this "lesson learned" will carry into the future and be considered with much more scrutiny. If you're running on a skeleton crew at school, surely then the children could at least attend every second day or have some other flexibility regarding being in person. The full isolation was too much for the kids, and their mental health continues to suffer as a result.
And disabling or killing their parents or grandparents with a virus brought home from school (or killing or disabling their teachers with the same virus) did nothing to their mental health? Or seeing their parents in distress about the pandemic? Why does everyone think that not being in school caused these things (and not a virus affecting the working of the brain)?
So good to hear a nuanced discussion. Yes, some of the conspiracy theories have been borne out, others are rubbish. In a polarized world your views are a breath of fresh air
I think Tim's views on the vaccines greatly undermine his credibility. Adverse reactions in the population were not properly recorded. I had an adverse reaction to my first jab and it took months to even get acknowledged by doctors as I was dismissed by doctors because 'the science' said adverse reactions were very rare. For the vast majority of healthy people I believe the risks of the experimental jabs were far greater than from the virus. I don't think this video or opinion will age well.
@@jonnynice8366 all medications have negative side effects. The question is, did the positive side effects outway the negative, and that’s a big giant fat YES. So yes, the vaccine was very effective. Having negative side effects, which were nothing serious for the vast majority of negative side effects, is not an indicator that it wasn’t effective. IT WAS, AND STILL IS.
In their logic children go to schools without adults and go back to homes without adults after school. And it dismisses that also children's health is affected by repeated Covid.
Normal children don't want to go to school at least that was the case in my time in my country. For us it would have been like holidays thanks to Covid.
Dont like the editing in the trailer re Tim's vaccinations. Click baiting reduces confidence imo and thats too precious to throw away in such a debate.
Yeah its well clickbaity
Especially for such a topic.
Absolutely agree. I was actually fixated on watching those two parts of the interview and concluded that they slowed down the video in order to introduce a pause that made the viewer wonder if Tim got vaccinated which of course he did. Then the questions about another pandemic. Guys, this is cheap clicks stuff and not worthy of Zoe. Especially given the number of peer reviewed papers that came out of this Covid study.
In the end they are selling a product, but you are correct.
Reading between the lines... he has stopped having the vaccine, possibly because covid is no longer the threat it was or he does not think it's safe enough. Who knows.
Where’s the comparative data of those vaccinated and those unvaccinated?
The clickbait style intro on "oh did he take the vaccine glum face" not helpful here. Why play games with this topic at all, when there are such powerful anti vax movements online. Be clear and stick to the science on it.
Awful
Yes my stomach sank. We don't need to feed the paranoia.
This channel is really a bit shit. I think they like selling us stuff more than they like informing us.
@@johnclarke8492 "powerful antivax movement"
Jesus Christ. You must be one of those people who supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Propaganda is bad for you.
Hi! I listen to your podcasts every week while driving!
After this one I just wanted to comment about the schools. I agree that it was bad for the kids that the schools closed, but it wasn’t as simple as them infecting grandparents. The schools aren’t children alone, there are adult teachers of all ages and risk levels, school secretaries, school nurses, administration etc. I’ve worked as a teacher for almost 30 years and kids have no problem coughing or sneezing in your face (by accident of course) when you get close to help them with their work, they don’t always wash their hands, and they touch everything! I don’t know what the right answer is for a pandemic as far as schools, but there is more to consider than the kids alone.
Thanks!!!
Heather
Good point. And, as you know, many teachers are in tbe 50+ age group with presumably partners at home also in that age category. Closing schools for a few months probably helped reduce transmission rates. Not all children suffered mental health issues by having a few months at home - controversial point to end!
@ yes!!
@@stringsandthreads What about people like me who had to continue working, I am a supermarket worker and in the fortnight before lockdowns the stores were full of panic buying shoppers, the infections hadnt quite reached the peak. The interesting ting is that none of us caught covid in those 2 weeks. By the end of the summer only 2 colleaques out of a total of 114,000 died from covid.
@@icnoble interesting
Saved me writing the same thing.
Also, what about NHS staff? Do we expect them to go through the hell they went through last time? What can be done there?
I have long Covid for 1 year now since my third Covid infection Oct/23 😢it is terrible! I hope more studies are devoted to long Covid.
My sympathies to you. I had LC for 16 months. I changed my diet WFPB then did a medically supervised 5 day water fast. Fully resolved fatigue and all symptoms. It is possible to recover, don't give up searching for your path to recovery ❤
I also have Long-covid. Got covid in January 2023 and never recovered. Terrible illness. I am on medications to help with symptoms, but nothing cures. They need to show more medical support and provide more funding for Long-covid research.
Probably caused by ultra processed junk foods. It affects your immune system. Also you are deficient in vitamin D.
Best thing you can do is eat real foods and get fresh air and sun outside.
I am glad to that eventually the idea that looking after our immune system is the bodies best line of defense is taken seriously.
Zoe did a fabulous job during COVID. Thank you! ❤
Yes doing as the government told them
They just amplified the fear and nonsense.
Thanks for this review. The Zoe work was so helpful during the first year or two of the pandemic, it’s a shame that Government were so sceptical. Great the way you were able to identify new symptoms, and provide the earliest data on where infection numbers were increasing around the country. Well done.
Tim suggests that schools should have remained open. If that was the policy it's likely the schools would have been closed anyway. Staff sickness would have wiped out the staff, many of whom are elderly teachers, class assistants or admin staff. You can't run schools with skeleton staff.
Spot on thanks..some of our students parents died
Yes, his advice conflicts with IndieSAGE.
He meant not to close the schools for so long.
But the mental health costs suffered by the kids from not ging to school was too big, schools should have stayed open for the kids.
Not supported by the data actually.
23:44 A friend worked in a lab that sometimes handled very dangerous transmissible pathogens. Despite all sorts of safety protocols, people make mistakes. Sometimes the wrong thing got sent to the wrong place with the wrong level of safety measures. When it arrives at its destination it might not immediately appear to be the highly dangerous substance it is unless the recipient is paying attention. I honestly believe we're lucky that this sort of thing doesn't happen every few months.
He’s just wrong on this… or I guess just his opinion.
if 'people' make mistakes in such labs with strict protocols (I used to write them when I worked in NHS diagnostic laboratories), then they are liable for severe consequences. You either misunderstood or your 'friend' was exaggerating or it's made-up.
I have Long Covid. I can't move on.
Best wishes to you. Hopefully they can get a handle on how to help people.
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Me too! 1 year of long Covid … 😢 after 3rd Covid infection
@debsalvesalve7850 I wish you well, and hopefully we can get our old lives back soon.
@@88batteristaall fingers crossed! My worst symptom is POTS - postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome 😢 (gravity is my enemy) 😢 I hope that we will recover soon! It is strange that I was super healthy! Eating/following Zoe program! Going to the gym almost everyday! I miss going to the gym …
I didn't get jabbed, didn't wear a mask, mixed with lots of people, ate healthy and took my vit C etc. I haven't had a cold or flu since 2007 and I didn't catch this deadly disease, either.
What's your point? Millions of others died.
Ive had it 9 times the most recent sept 24 @@Known-unknowns
Same.
@@Known-unknownsNo they didn't
@@flumpaustin1994people like you who deny Covid and it’s effects totally infuriate me! I wish I could have taken you to work with me during pandemic(I am a critical care nurse), wish you went through what we needed to, wish you had the long term consequences of struggling through covid instead of me. Wish you knew what you talk about!
Given Tim was trained in rheumatology, could you do a future episode on autoimmune disease please? Thanks
Dr Ken Berry on a proper human diet can eliminate autoimmune diseases
I remember a big problem for schools was that lots of teachers needed to shield or were off sick and the schools couldn't run safely even before official lock down.
Ridiculous app, pinging perfectly well teachers didn’t help
And why force children to bring Covid home and infect their parents and their grandparents? Children do not live in isolation.
@@froukehermens2176 yet we made them live in isolation for nearly 2 years because of that fear at a devastating cost to their well being in the long run...
We have permanently damaged an entire generation because of that fear...
For all the good work done, I do remember these podcasts downplaying the risks posed by the 2020 Christmas wave as it was developing (I know the variant was an extra curveball, but things still were not looking great), and also downplaying Long Covid, focusing heavily on their app study, but citing little other evidence, leaving the risks, and communicating the seriousness of the long covid risks, underestimated on this podcast. These are serious lessons to take forward for science communicators. From a someone with long covid symptoms since 2021, who was put somewhat at ease by this podcast at the time, falsely. But I still heavily commend many aspects of the good work of course, but more humility, and consideration of others work, can only help. It would also be nice to know the state of play now, so as not to repeat the same mistake - what is the risk of long covid from new infections now? Discussion of this science has essentially died, but I imagine papers about new infections are still being published, and given the majority of covid's health burden will be long covid, we are still leaving ourselves underinformed (I hope the news is good though, but that is not based on hard evidence).
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@@flossie1947 What point specifically? Personalisation or something else? I commended the work twice, I'm just saying it didn't really consider much other work and the potential limitations of the methodology (unavoidable). More from a communication standpoint. Similar might be the sunscreen comments made more recently - it doesn't mean there isn't some valid points in there, but sometimes it's the degree of confidence one shows and how one puts it, that's all I mean. But I appreciate these things are a challenge. The key is to acknowledge that and bring in other voices and researchers also (like they do now on zoe, but in the pandemic, it seemed less collaborative in this way). But I am open to my perceptions also being not perfect of course, it's how it came across to me.
There is excellent ongoing information, and appraisals of studies as they appear, on TWIV (This Week in Virology) and continuing updates on Long Covid/PASC on the weekly TWIV Clinical Updates with Dr Daniel Griffin here on UA-cam.
Being immunosuppressed, unable to form any immunity via vaccines, it's still a very big part of our lives.
Yep I agree and if you know someone who is immunosuppressive you are also very conscious it's still with us.
This is understandable. If you have had the virus, you will have some natural immunity, at least for some time.
@MezMezMez1 gf hasn't had it. She is on medication for an autoimmune disease and doesn't make new antibodies because of it we have to be very careful still, especially as getting antivirals in time , if she did catch it, is a lottery.
But the experts were clear that the immuno suppressed would benefit from being vaccinated. It made no sense to me.
@@fluffyheed9166 They are trying to develop antibodies they can just inject into immunosuppressed patients to give them protection. In 2022 astra zenica produced one which worked and was rolled out to clinically vulnerable people in 32 countries including most of the EU and the USA. This country takes so long to approve new drugs that it stopped being as effective against the newest variants before it could be used and NICE/The Tory govt decided it wasn't worth the money to allow it to be used on the NHS but said people could buy it privately at a cost of £2000 every 6 months.
At the end of 2023, astra zenica's new version of the drug was approved in France and the USA. This country still wouldn't change their approval process so it's still not been rolled out and is starting to lose it's effectiveness against the current variants. They had aimed to make a decision in Dec, then it got pushed back to Jan, march and finally may 2025. About a month ago they suspended the assessment.
America has another antibody they're using but they won't roll it out here because the approval process takes too long and they don't think the UK will pay £5000 per person either.
So until this country changes their approval process to be able to fast track the roll out it'll be this way. Avoiding busy places. Not going into pubs, restaurants etc and wearing masks in shops. There are 1 million vulnerable people doing the same.
The new labour government have already met with campaign groups fighting for vulnerable people with the aim of fast tracking the process so hopefully there will be something that is available and works in the near future. If they don't change the process , drug companies won't bother even trying to roll anything out in this country as it's all changing too quickly.
Since the first drug developed was proven to be effective, in mid 2022, 70,000 clinically vulnerable people have died from Covid.
Currently levels are fairly low countrywide but on average 12 people per day are dying from it . And they are almost exclusively vulnerable or old.
I’m healthy (I’m plant based - eat mostly whole foods and I’m active - I don’t have any healthy issues, not even headaches or period pain), and I was vaxxed 3 times. First time I had covid was just 2 days after my second vax and it was Christmas eve. It was awful. For a day everything ached, even my teeth and my toes. I felt so hot, I had my bedroom window open and I had to take all my clothes off whilst it was 2 degrees outside. I don’t take meds so I didn’t have painkillers at home. Next day I felt a lot better - it was more like a cold. In total I had at least covid 5 times. First day it is always a bit weird, it’s not like a cold at all, but then the day after it seems fine for me, but I can imagine how it can be very damaging for someone who’s not healthy and has a bad lifestyle. Covid is not like a cold!
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It doesn't explain why past knowledge and knowledge that other experts tried to impart at the time was ignored, not just the great Barrington declaration but a lot of other things.
Hmm I wonder why the great barrington declaration was ignored?… tough one that one is… jk.
It’s because it was from a libertarian think tank. It was purely political, and its purpose was to allow business and corporations to keep making money, while basically ignoring covid.
“The World Health Organization (WHO) and numerous academic and public-health bodies stated that the strategy would be dangerous and lacked a sound scientific basis.”
The Great Barrington declaration wasn't ignored, scientists looked at it and saw it was misguided.
Yes, this podcast was just the familiar Tim narrative. He's the guru, but actually he ignores stuff (like the GBD) and uses evidence selectively. I first noticed this in The Diet Myth, and he's still the same. Much as I admired the Zoe initiative in 2020 (and he deserved his gong), he just doesn't move on. Incidentally, I'm still submitting a daily report - where's all that data going? The app seems dead.
Would Dr Tim Spector have another mRNA covid vaccine be interested to hear his thoughts on the matter?
I would be interested too
I will never have another so called mRNA vaccine. Too many serious injuries have been suffered and little was mentioned about that. This is a serious matter that it seems future vaccines are and will be produced by this genetic type method.
I certainly would not. Lied to and misled into the 2. Realised the idiocy once Omnicron came around (natural vaccine) yet they still wanted to give it to my children?!
And there are still pushing the covid vaccine in the UK this Winter!
Oh, he is showing clear signs of needing another half a dozen!
The odd thing in my family and circle of friends is that the only symptomatic Covid is being suffered by family or friends who have had a booster fairly recently. One of the problems is that the vaccine produecers say you shouldnt have the vaccine if you have recently had Covid. However with the tests being potentially ineffective on the current strains many people are probably having asymptomatic or barely symptomatic covid and then having a booster and having a bad bout of Covid which may be a reaction to mild Covid combined with a booster
Tests are still working. We use them daily. Lots of positives
This is the problem. So many uninformed opinions abound
@SiRushBass indeed. Because the Western authorities choose not to inform us and try hard to suppress reports issued which don't support their narrative. After 40 years in a professional career trained to be sceptical and having dealt with governments, regulators and global corporations I'm not going to stop being sceptical now. I don't know the answers but I'm not accepting official answers that have little or no real scientific evidence
At the beginning of covid I starting taking Vitamin C Vitamin D zinc and making my own daily juice - from a variety of fruits and veggies. I’m 63, and I’ve never had covid nor have I been vaccinated - but do run regularly. A good diet, regular exercise and rest I believe, are the essential ingredients to a healthy immune system not forgetting having good friends and family around, working purposefully and a strong faith.
pure luck.. and by the way thanks for not having been vaccinated.. we are all out of this nightmare thanks to people like you ahahahahahahh
A strong faith. Okaaayyyyyyy.
You have right a healthy immune is important ❤
Luck.
Another problem was that so many people have unknown underlying health conditions, so many presumed healthy people fared poorly. So many have undiagnosed diabetes, hypertension and cardiovascular disease and we now know those people fared the worst with Covid.
Why are there still more excess deaths after a lot of the weak elderly people have already died??
The Spanish flu particularly killed the healthy part of the population. Covid affected the elderly, but you cannot conclude that a virus always affects the elderly most. Bird flu is likely to affect children badly. Are we then still going to keep schools open?
Clickbait intro earned my negative vote, and I stopped watching.
Why has he only had the covid jab at least 3 times, a vague answer? He is 66 years old and can have a free jab in the UK if he wants one.
I do not think that 'free' is a reason to take a jab, he Cleary realised it was not appropriate for hm to continue.......but I respect your decision to take all the jabs you are offered for free.
Maybe he got covid, which acts like a jab as far as reducing risk and severity.
Because he doesn't like the risk to reward odds of taking the vaccine shot, simple as that.
Just because its free doesn't mean everyone will choose to have it.
Because it's not offered to everyone unless they are deemed 'clinically vulnerable'
What this disucussion underlines is the importance of trust. If the authorities are seen to be lieing than their guidelines on vaccines will be rejected by rational citizens. The recent report from the US that the Covid virus came out of biowarfare by the US using Chinese labs, simply amplifies this basic problem of trust.
Words cannot express how much I adore Professor Tim Spector and all the Zoe team ❤ true heroes
Rubbish
20 min after my first early Covid Moderna vaccine my persistent 4 year sinus infection disappeared and sinus symptoms has not returned 😂❤ 😅😅
Anecdotal,correlation, does not show causation
Agree sample size of one on the positive side years with health sinus a joy
How about the extra head you have got now??
The chance of two truly unrelated events happening within such a short time in someone’s lifetime is exceedingly small, assuming the events (first dose of vaccine and disappearance of sinus infection) are rare. A probability expert would be able to give a more precise answer.
Haha. It doesn't work like that. Also, regression to the mean. Also anecdotal.
I had covid when it first come out I was so ill and so lucky to be here but I don't eat much been in hospital with my lungs I have had 4 lots of the covid jab. But it made me so ill know I can not have it
Covid is still here, sadly .
and it will be forever
and its like a mild cold, in fact i've had worst colds than my last 2 bouts of covid.
Not for everyone.
@@GenuinePlukoExactly right!
@@bb2021yea but even „normal colds“ arent the same for everyone. Some end in hospital with a cold.
As someone who runs clinical trials, when discussing vaccines, the term side effects and adverse events are different.
Side effects are headache, fatigue, arm pain, etc within the first few days of getting it. These are not rare.
AEs are like POTS, longterm hives, high blood pressure, heart issues in general, etc. These are rare but still very much happen.
I'm in VAERS myself due to an AE that lasted 7 months.
Like an old friend the UA-cam Covid-19 misinformation guidance message is seen again, ah a trip down memory lane to those grim days of dystopian 2020
The title of this video should be, 5 years 'since the start of' the pandemic (it's still ongoing!), not 'after'.
Thanks for the comments on long covid. After getting Covid in Feb 2020 and having long covid ever since this really needs publicising. It's Awful and my life is nothing like it used to be. The medical profession look on you as if it's the first time they have ever seen it and the only help I have had has been via doing my own research.
You were unlucky to catch a early variant of covid! Once Omicron came along which was much less serious! Africa call Omicron the vaccine they never had to give them immunity!!
I'm sorry to hear that. I've had long covid since August. What did you find out that helped you?
@@LucasShmucas Zinc, antihistamines (H1 and H2), nattokinase, omega 3 and probably the best were B12 and folic acid.
My sympathies to you, and I also had some improvement with nattokinase. I had LC for 16 months. I changed my diet WFPB then did a medically supervised 5 day water fast. Fully resolved fatigue and all symptoms. It is possible to recover, don't give up searching for your path to recovery ❤
@@LetThoseOatsRoll Thanks, many of my neurological problems have lessened but Covid gave me Myocarditis, which MRI showed had cleared, but I'm still left with my pulse going plus 150 on the slightest thing, eg having a shower, and my cardiologist referred me back to my GP despite my protestations!! (Even though he can see it on my loop recorder.)
I totally understand and I am sorry for the anxiety this causes. I also take immune suppressant medication for an autoimmune condition. I did get Covid three times. The first two times I was given the anti-virals which helped a lot. The third time was two months ago but it seemed much milder so I didn't take the antivirals.
It is important to note that the extent to which a medication lowers the immune system varies a lot so it is not helpful to compare one person to another.
I hope your gf stays safe and that others are considerate. (Some people in public places cough and sneeze without covering up and that really annoys me!)
It was the forth covid vaccination that made me feel so ill😢 it was my second Pfizer, one after the other. I’m still breathless and feel a great weight on my chest.
Tim Spector is a Doctor he has to say what the government tell him basically!!
Exactly had the flu jab, but they can keep the covid shot!!
Would you get another one?
No@@celiad6012
No I wouldn't get any other mRNA type of Vaccine, will still get the flu jab shingles jab ect.
What was the mechaism for reporting the demise of anyone who had been participating in the Covid study?
For me this is the first disappointing show produced by Zoe I have watched.
Most children may have experienced the acute stage of a Covid infection as “ like a cold “, but nothing was known of the long - term sequelae ( and still not known ), thus there was much at stake in terms of the precautionary principle re school lockdowns.
In addition, children would become infected at school and bring the virus home to vulnerable family members. What the potential harm done to children through knowing they were responsible for infecting their beloved family members ?
I can't disagree with your point, but a balance is needed somewhere. Genuine disruption to society, schooling , travel, work and running up vast government debt has far worse consequences than the infection which ultimately we have all had.
@@jamebrowyes, I agree and introducing measures in schools to mitigate risk of transmission such as increased air filtration would be helpful. Early in the pandemic, there was nothing known about this virus and lock downs were precautionary. As we learned more about the airborne nature of transmission, what was distressing to me was the sole focus on handwashing as a preventative measure.
Yes, it's frustrating the lack of care in our school systems for updating ventilation and HVAC.
The mounting evidence we have on Covid's effects on the brain and IQ levels are alarming.
No one should be letting their child be infected multiple times, yet so few are reading the science literature on long covid, etc.
@@jamebrow How can you be so sure that not going to school was causing the distress in children, not seeing their parents and grandparents get ill or die (and in distress) possibly from the virus that they picked up in school? Why do suicides in children go down during the summer break? Not all children enjoy school (particularly if they are bullied).
@@circa1890 It is like trying to put new information into their brains while also actively killing their brain cells with repeated Covid infections. It just does not make sense. At all.
From a health economic and even public health point of view in particular it was an absolute disaster. If the gov had only listened to Prof Heneghan’s group at the time.
Had 3 jabs and still caught covid 4 times !!
They won't stop you from getting it, just heavily reduce symptoms.
Started using the app when advised of it by Nurses Health Study II. Worked as a nurse through Covid in the USA--thankfully on the Med Surg end rather than ICU. Best thing to come out of all of it was discovering that you hadn't gone away when Covid ended and that you have a wonderful nutrition podcast! (I had assumed Zoe was just invented for Covid)
No Zoe was operational about 3yrs prior to Covid
Tim - you seem out of date on the type of side effects that may now be evident and whilst there have been many studies the ones that appear to produce worse results as regards the danger of side effects are being suppressed. Lets indeed have full transparency in all respects and have proper trials of new vaccines
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Lmao you’re just being fed conservative pseudoscience.. I’m sorry to say 🤷
Schools are just huge germ factories. So wasn't the shutting down of schools not just due to the death rate but also the rate of long covid which seems to have already left many countries with large swathes of people long term ill and unable to work? Along with filling up hospital beds everywhere of course. I wouldn't mind betting that schools would have been a great place for new variants to form as well 😀
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There is no evidence that "germs" cause disease. Read 'Can You Catch a Cold?' Then enjoy the freedom it brings. Be well
I had long covid before the vaccinations were available. Reacted very badly to AstraZeneka which gave me full blown covid symptoms, rash but also attacked my joints and I could not walk! Hospital said it was a reaction and I started improving after physio but still suffer problems with my knees. I still took moderna and Pfizer later.
There were plenty 40-50 year olds going to hospital and going under to be ventilated. Remember not to be very eugenicy, that may be its own mental health issue. There were vulnerable people who were refused ventilation in 2021. Let the bodies pile high was not a fondly remembered policy. Infantilization of people is not good either and pandering to those who throw their toys out of the pram. Sometimes people have to do hard things and suck it up. Preferably not eugenics though.
I have 4 of Tim Spector's books, respect him a lot as a researcher, that is until he said his research on whether vit D had any effect on covid-19 where the research used 1,000ui and not the now recommended 10,000ui - showed no effect at all.
I am so glad you started this your app and your advice was very much appreciated, I joined you on 24th March 2020 and reported 781 days . Excellent project fabulous team. If I remember correctly your information was ahead of government’s and more accurate.
Thankyou
What about the teachers safety?
What about children's mental health, we as teachers work for them don't we?
@@IGEB-k2n You don't die for them.
@@drychaf How many teachers died from COVID caught from kids who would not have died otherwise?
@@KenDavis761 While kids were at home? What are you on about?
I’ve great respect for what Tim’s done in raising awareness of gut health importance but when you look at all the data coming out on injury from the novel thing in potentially millions of people I think he’s either in denial or not aware like so many people.
I think he is aware just in denial
He is being careful verycareful
You are so lucky if you think it’s over. For those of us with an impaired immune system, such as people with blood cancer, it has never gone away. I’m still having to ‘shield’ and avoid any crowded places, as it is potentially life-threatening to me.
Anyone who wants to protect their health should take steps to avoid is (at least put on an FFP2 mask when going somewhere indoors with other people). I don't understand that people can talk about improving diets on the other hand and not doing anything to avoid Covid on the other hand. It is like taking up smoking, while following a rigorous diet and exercise regime.
No more off schedule experiments without testing!!!!
Yes please a program on autoimmune disease esp on rheumatoid arthritis
Eliminate grains and dairy and it will change your life!! Give it 60 days and you'll have your health back
One of the reatures not mentioned was in the early days there was a reconciliation of statistics with criteria with the government in which confidence was low.
Low in government for sure !!
👏👏👏and thank you for all you have done and continue to do for our future health.
Are the studies that you cite about vaccines, masks and diet funded by pharmaceutical companies?
Interesting conversation about the symptoms about the persistent cough because when I had Covid in 2021. I had no cough at all, loss of smell for 24 hours and a really, really stuffy nose... but no cough at all. I know several other people who had covid and never coughed.
Sounds like BBC trumpet, apart from not toeing the line with the origin.
my wife has developed micro Crohn's and has developed psoriatic arthritis she is being given different drugs to try and manage the flare-ups and symptoms. Inflammation is the cause of the symptoms and the drugs are designed to manage this. However, it feels like she is being moved from drug to drug in a never-ending experiment to find a drug that works with both conditions. Naturally, she is wary of changing her diet as she doesn't know what the impact would be. Have you done any research into this area and are there any resources we could look at to help her on her quest? Many thanks.
I have zero faith in this man
ZOE should stick to nutritional studies. Everything in this podcast about the so-called Covid-19 "pandemic" is an insult to the intelligence of those who have rigorously followed all the science.
Thank you to the Zoe Team for that you did during Covid... Using the Zoe App and applying the lessons from the data I stayed Covid free, right through to September 2024... by which time I had the vaccination and all of the follow-up boosters (... even so, I was unwell for seven weeks after coming down with Covid).
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Well done and thank you!
I was 64 years old at the time of this event. I received 2 vaccines, the second one, in March 2022. In August, I suffered from covid for about 3 weeks. 2 weeks after I recovered, I was hit with a very serious UTI, my first in my life. I had blood work done and discovered my PSA was 62. After a series of tests and biopsies, I was diagnosed with Gleason 8 aggressive prostate cancer. One data point doesn't result in a pattern. Have you come across any other cases such as mine?
Thank you so much Zoe Team ♡! It was really important for me to have the Zoe app monitoring my LongCovid back in 2020!
I caught nothing during the entire pandemic. I'm a nurse in a hospital and I'm usually sick with something contagious at least twice a year. I didn't get sick until the masks came off. They worked.
I had a similar experience. I’m a respiratory therapist and wore a mask every time I was around anyone indoors, for a few years. I didn’t catch even a cold during that time.
Why do people such as these always seem to miss the point of the public wearing a mask? Its purpose is NOT to protect the wearer, it is to protect everyone else from the wearer. So the most important area of mask use not even discussed. Not wearing a mask did not save your life but you may have killed someone else from a vulnerable group.
Because Doctors wear masks to protect them from other infections in the hospital. Think about what original masks were made for.
Considering the porosity of many masks (600microbes) and the molecular size of the virus (5microbes) I’m not sure how it protected either public or mask user.
Those big plastic shield masks were effective. Personally, I think the masks served as a ubiquitous reminder to be scared (this is only my opinion and not backed by evidence).
@@TheWobblinghorseDamn, think you’re 100 % right here!
They have proved normal masks are not worth wearing to protect anyone!!
Do viruses travel on their own, or in much larger droplets? I think the latter...
We learnt not to burn your house down to get rid of a wasps nest.
Ask Dr John Campbell on his thoughts on the mRNA Covid Vaccine!!!
Why would we do that? He's a retired nurse teacher, who lies and clickbaits for cash from the gullibe?
He’s not a medical doctor and he spouts rubbish.
He interviews highly reputable doctors and scientists and reviews research himself.
@@erinneil5480 He is a Scientist remember
@@jan9562 No he doesn't. He also picks and chooses research that match his prejudices and many of them are of very poor quality
Disappointing presentation. Too many non-facts.
I used the Covid app and found it really good then when it stopped Zoe went off my radar. But when the Zoe UA-cam podcast showed up of my news feed the other week I thought I’d take a listen on the subject of Extra Virgin Olive Oil. Which was very interesting. Now Moving on from that podcast i have some Extra Virgin Olive Oil on its way to me and a subscriber to Zoe science & Nutrition Daily 30+. Thank you Tim and team for all your hard work!!
So what is the explanation as why our ministers were having parties? COVID was no “accident”
Because they knew it was BS.
Having worked in many labs, BSL 2/3, and read pretty much every FOIA'd document on Covid origins.. it does look like it was an accident.
That is bad enough, though. I now work with organizations to mitigate these types of experiments.
So lets be clear Tim you have only had the first 2 covid vaccines and 1 booster about nov 2021 , are YOU going to have a covid vaccine this winter!! I think NOT!!!
Surely it is about risk, is it not? If the Covid strains are less threatening there is less need for a vaccination unless you have high risk factors. We are not in the position we were in during the first year of the infection.
@@brianbanks2774 TOTALLY AGREE
That sums up me and I'm 70 next year and I'm not going anywhere near an MrNA vaccine for Covid or anything else.
I have had my booster every year since my first three because I don’t like the way long covid affected me after my first infection. Also as an asthmatic over 60 I am higher risk and as a physician I am in contact with patients every day. I also wear my FFP2 every time I have an infectious patient.
? bro what? do you think you need to get EVERY booster and vaccine to be healthy?
I was in the study and still report my vaccines and symptoms. If I’m well I don’t report. I’m 68. The app is easy to use.
Do you have an ZOE app ?
I find this so fascinating. My husband had Covid twice but I never did. We both had all the vaccines and boosters. The only difference was I ate a plant-based diet and he didn’t.
another difference, you a woman, he a man. another difference: your entire genetic makeup, unless he is your brother. another difference .... and so on. we don't need people bias towards what they reckon, that is what made this mess in the first place
That and the fact that you are two different people.
Plant based diet has nothing to do with it. I wish people would read a little more before commenting
I’m not getting a Covid shot this year. First shot pain in injection site. Second shot pain in arm from shoulder to elbow lasting 24 hours. Third shot pain in arm from shoulder to wrist lasting about 36 hours. Fourth shot I received both Covid and flue shot. Each shot was in different arm and I had severe pain in both arms that lasted 72 hours.
don't be a victim of natural selection. Stop it!
You poor thing, but better than ending in hospital.
Still infinitely preferable to being seriously ill.
Do you exercise? Sometimes that makes my arms and legs hurt for a day. I would skip that too if having a sore arm for a day is such a big issue.
@ this lasts 3 days and the pain is more then muscle pain. This pain is deep joint and muscle where you cannot put any pressure on them.
So police have no power then
I had long covid from about 1990, ironically I got a lot better after getting actual covid. It's complicated and totally unpreventable at present.
EVERYBODY wants us to hit the Like button. EVERYBODY wants us to Subscribe. If we do this for EVERYBODY we get clogged up with EVERYBODY so we don’t.
Wow… the opening is a real insult to those still suffering. Covid is very much still ‘the present’ to many of us. Certainly not a thing of the past
You made a good client base from it.
Exactly, on again for more £££££
Hi I have been using the covid19 since covid now I am unable to log in please can you help has it be CLOSED ???
We aren’t (in the US) very good about protecting our teachers. Many teachers are immune-compromised, particularly in poorer communities. 😢
Closing the schools here in the early days in Australia would have spread the virus more rapidly via the children, to parents, older teachers and grandparents like me who do school picks and duties to support working parents, and who might also be looking after their aged parents. I don’t understand your view on school, nor do I understand why you have only had 3 vaccinations.
Are you comfortable with the new mRNA development into the Covid-19 vaccine?
Tim, is this your next book? I would love this topic in book retrospective format.
I have taken a covid vaccination recently with my flu and pneumonia…….
Why?? covid vaccine dont stop you catching covid or passing it on!!
RIP
@@jonnynice8366 LOL! Covid jab DO NOT WANT
Propaganda!
Who are your investors?
If after SARS COV2 infection cryoglobuline IgM level increase,or If ,,cold agglutinine,, occur, at that patients pulse oximetry indicate lower values at finger level ,where blood temperature decrease, and blood viscousity increase (reversibile)(inducing ischemia)
And paradoxal happy hypoxia was seen.
Oxigenoterapy with low temperature oxigen mix in that specific case,can decrease blood temperature at lung capillary level.
Using warmed oxigen mix at body temperature,in that specific case, oxigen saturation increased more and rapidly.
When I warmed water in barbotor ( on ambulance) I see that oxigen saturation increased more and rapidly.
Two concepts to consider: the average age of the people that died and the average number of comorbidities they had.
Lockdowns and school shutdowns were so detrimental to children. Hopefully, this "lesson learned" will carry into the future and be considered with much more scrutiny. If you're running on a skeleton crew at school, surely then the children could at least attend every second day or have some other flexibility regarding being in person. The full isolation was too much for the kids, and their mental health continues to suffer as a result.
And disabling or killing their parents or grandparents with a virus brought home from school (or killing or disabling their teachers with the same virus) did nothing to their mental health? Or seeing their parents in distress about the pandemic? Why does everyone think that not being in school caused these things (and not a virus affecting the working of the brain)?
Nitric Oxide Nasal Spray: could this have saved millions of lives? and still do so in the future.
Weak sauce 👎👎👎
“The vaccines were a success.” 😅 You lost me there. There were/are so many other ways to prevent illness.
just a guy with a nice shirt, talking a load of bollocks
Well said 😂
So good to hear a nuanced discussion. Yes, some of the conspiracy theories have been borne out, others are rubbish. In a polarized world your views are a breath of fresh air
I think Tim's views on the vaccines greatly undermine his credibility. Adverse reactions in the population were not properly recorded. I had an adverse reaction to my first jab and it took months to even get acknowledged by doctors as I was dismissed by doctors because 'the science' said adverse reactions were very rare. For the vast majority of healthy people I believe the risks of the experimental jabs were far greater than from the virus. I don't think this video or opinion will age well.
We really are Guinea pigs
No
Yes we are
Lemmings
He totally botched the veffectiveness question. Just another "scientist" who dares not speak the truth.
What
@Bundysvideos He knows, I know, you know, we all know that they have negative effy.
Cassie.
Still don't understand
@@jonnynice8366 all medications have negative side effects. The question is, did the positive side effects outway the negative, and that’s a big giant fat YES. So yes, the vaccine was very effective. Having negative side effects, which were nothing serious for the vast majority of negative side effects, is not an indicator that it wasn’t effective. IT WAS, AND STILL IS.
@@jonnynice8366 your not explaining anything
So lets get this right. People voluntarily locked down - which is good - but the children that live with those people, shouldnt have. Odd logic.
In their logic children go to schools without adults and go back to homes without adults after school. And it dismisses that also children's health is affected by repeated Covid.
Normal children don't want to go to school at least that was the case in my time in my country. For us it would have been like holidays thanks to Covid.