Watch This BEFORE Buying Ryzen 7000! 🙄

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  • Ryzen 7000 is here - but BEWARE for your Gaming PC Build... there's an issue with Coolers and RAM! PC Centric shows the Am5 7600x, 7700x, 7900x and 7950X issue!
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  • @Eli-zb2yj
    @Eli-zb2yj Рік тому +342

    I like that AMD fight 2 companies at once: Intel and Nvidia

    • @modernninja1372
      @modernninja1372 Рік тому +16

      I like how you said that because all of them are doing exactly the same thing: fighting the other too, so I am not sure why are you are emphasizing AMD

    • @lord461
      @lord461 Рік тому +3

      @@modernninja1372 lol I was about to ask why Nvidia is fighting and then I remembered ARC.

    • @amsterdam6126
      @amsterdam6126 Рік тому +29

      @@modernninja1372 cuz it is, AMD has there own gpu and cpu. Nvidia is an only gpu company whereas intel has just entered the gpu market.

    • @parzival3632
      @parzival3632 Рік тому +12

      @@modernninja1372 Nvidia is not fighting AMD or Intel in CPU market. Nvidia is only competing AMD in GPU market.
      So Nvidia is fighting only 1 company.
      If you want to get technical and say nvidia owns ARM, even then... it's not exactly desktop CPUs. They are probably fighting Apple in that market? Coz Nor intel, nor AMD makes ARM processor. They make x64 processors.
      Intel is fighting AMD is cpu market. They don't make GPUs, yet. So Intel is only fighting 1 company too.
      But AMD is fighting both Intel (in CPU market) and Nvidia (in GPU market). And they are close to winning. That's impressive considering they are fighting 2 companies at once. So yes, OP is right.

    • @modernninja1372
      @modernninja1372 Рік тому +1

      @@parzival3632 Intel IS making Gpu's and they are already released.

  • @RataAlexandru
    @RataAlexandru Рік тому +50

    Thank you for making a video on this topic. Just finished building my ryzen 7000 pc and had this exact behavior with long post times or had to restart the system to get it to post at all. I don't mind the slow boot all that much, but I was starting to worry there's something wrong with my components. Now i can calm down and actually enjoy my new pc.

    • @antonywhite8031
      @antonywhite8031 Рік тому +1

      Hello! What motherboard did you choose? some people say that the whole booting is way faster on gygabyte's motherboads.

    • @RataAlexandru
      @RataAlexandru Рік тому +1

      @@antonywhite8031 an Asus TUF B650 PLUS

  • @jcgongavoe337
    @jcgongavoe337 Рік тому +12

    Before unscrewing the LGA1718 CPU socket, make sure you first release the tension bracket. After I release the last screw, the socket just exploded into air, and then almost landed into the pins. It was a good moment of heart attack

  • @Mrhukkis
    @Mrhukkis 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you so much! I built a new rig for a relative and I was at a loss why on earth it would not post. After triple checking everything, I luckily found this video and felt a great relief when it started working after a long while. I've built over a dozen gaming PC's and this really caught me off guard. Saved the day!

  • @cj_zak1681
    @cj_zak1681 Рік тому

    thanks fro the headsups marcus - much appreciated!

  • @capitaldd3693
    @capitaldd3693 Рік тому +1

    great video - thanks for the info. I anticipate a few more problems with the new 7000 series. I think I will wait a bit before switching over. I do have a Bios question - is the bios for a prebuilt system generally different from the DIY type build (I ended up with a 5800x cpu from a prebuilt and it won't run on my 550 board) I swapped ram, updated to the latest bios, I did that a few times.... I ended up swapping to a different cpu but still would like to use the 5800x in another build - just wondering if it could be a bios issue
    thanks

  • @ESSA20
    @ESSA20 Рік тому +96

    FYI: The ram check is trying to get the tightest timing until it post.

    • @adamtajhassam9188
      @adamtajhassam9188 Рік тому +1

      glad im happy to wait 4 fixes b4 i invest in AMD - now I cant decide what I like better both Intel and AMD are great.

    • @ESSA20
      @ESSA20 Рік тому +27

      @@adamtajhassam9188 its not a flaw but a feature, don't you want tighter timings?

    • @alandab
      @alandab Рік тому +26

      @@adamtajhassam9188 Dude, you're missing the point. The system is training itself to find the tightest memory timings it can run stable. That's a good thing. Sheesh.

    • @2L8M8Basher
      @2L8M8Basher Рік тому +8

      And it only happens once then normal loading times.

    • @TheKb117
      @TheKb117 Рік тому +1

      @@2L8M8Basher so, the testing was lacking subsequent boot times after initial boot for the same ram sticks... I guess this video is incomplete, then...

  • @__--JY-Moe--__
    @__--JY-Moe--__ Рік тому

    U'r just a little bundle of helpful info! thanks 4 the info! it's sad that these MB companies,
    don't have a generic mode for trouble shooting! I have had serious problems in the past!
    this is why most OEM's & kit dev's. will keep it simple this time around! best regards!

  • @PadreDProductions
    @PadreDProductions Рік тому +8

    Thank God for this video! I have already RMA'd one motherboard and was ready to send back the CPU because I wasn't getting a post right away like the other 100 computers I've built in my lifetime. I'm not sure why they don't put a warning in the motherboard box or at least have the motherboard post something on the screen. I can't imagine how many unnecessary returns they're going to receive. I'm almost considering going back to am4 already.

  • @AznMikey
    @AznMikey Рік тому +4

    I heard it isn't the bios that's making it so long to post but that the timings of the memory are set to the tightest setting so it can't boot and so it reboots till it finds the fastest timings that is able to boot...
    In other words your Ram will be set to the tightest timings since it tried all the other ones that didn't work b4.
    He should have also mentioned that this only happens when you boot it the first time or change anything to do with memory.

  • @Voshchronos
    @Voshchronos Рік тому +1

    Great info

  • @NaterNorris
    @NaterNorris Рік тому +1

    I got a cpu cooler to work by measuring the stand off hieght and I used a MB stand off to get the right distance and then installed the rest of the mounting hardware and it worked great, even looks good, just didn't use the backplate that came with the cooler.

  • @AvroBellow
    @AvroBellow 2 місяці тому

    Oh hell, the default mounting for coolers started back in the AM2 days! I had the same bracket on my Phenom II X4 940. Just use a cooler meant for AM2/3/4 and you won't have to worry about taking the socket out. It's not like the R7-7800X3D needs an AIO since it tends to draw less than 60W.

  • @itzFenners
    @itzFenners 2 місяці тому

    Been considering a 7800x3d with 32gb 6000mhz CL30 ram - are these issues still prevalent that I'd have issues on a new build?

  • @Masterczulkix
    @Masterczulkix Рік тому

    i realy thank for you basic language. a lots of ppl in the world watching you and i think you give us that what we want to get in the simplest way. A lot of yt tech guiders speaking to fast for me. Very thx for that, rll greatful.

  • @MinhNguyen-cl3iv
    @MinhNguyen-cl3iv Рік тому +7

    6 months later and the bios are still having issues 😂

  • @markbolam1383
    @markbolam1383 Рік тому +1

    thanks for the video ill stick with am4 for next build as am5 is not mature or cheap enough

  • @dreadedotaku1860
    @dreadedotaku1860 Рік тому +1

    this worked out well with my zen 7700x, I got a msi tomahawk b650 and running cooling with the nzxt kraken x53 luckily nzxt supported the new plates and brackets in their more recent shipments to work with this new motherboard only hickup was the ram had to change that lol

  • @TheHankoook
    @TheHankoook Рік тому +1

    For the cooler problem can I use the same Mobo backplate screws and mount the holders that the cooler sits on and not use the bundled backplate that comes with the aftermarket cooler ? By the way I have the cooler master ma 612 thanks and waiting for the new GPU builds from Markus 👍👍

  • @adeelio
    @adeelio Рік тому +1

    The EXPO profile slow boot unfortunately still exists. I am using the ASRock B650E PG-ITX WIFI board. Asrock has no idea how to fix it. Assuming this is an Agesa issue?

  • @Billy_Beane
    @Billy_Beane Рік тому +3

    I was thinking about switching from an i9-9900k from my first build of 3 years to a ryzzen 9-7900x but now im conflicted because of this.

  • @RandomGuy-qn2fr
    @RandomGuy-qn2fr Рік тому +1

    That expo profile is tied to the xmp profile and if you choose intel instead of amd or vice versa you're going to run into these problems. I had to order a new set of memory after i saw your video twice or three times and did the error 15 code lookup which was tied to the memory

  • @Methodical2
    @Methodical2 Рік тому +36

    I'm going with AMD (7950x) for the 1st time in 10 years of building and I will be installing the EK Quantum Veloicity water block as the cooling solution. This is good information to know before starting the build, especially since I am not familiar with the AMD platform.

    • @luxemier
      @luxemier Рік тому

      if you dont upgrade every 10 years you shouldve gone intel. more performance for less cost

    • @Methodical2
      @Methodical2 Рік тому +2

      @@luxemier I can't worry about that now. I am all in with AMD on this build. Something new and different.

    • @youarebymyside
      @youarebymyside Рік тому +1

      @@luxemier ok, what if I DO upgrade every ten years? What build should I do then?

    • @jari2018
      @jari2018 Рік тому

      @@youarebymyside most cores little heat i guess so it lasts or the motherboard last 10 years

    • @LiegeMaximo
      @LiegeMaximo Рік тому

      @@luxemier how then

  • @blacksheep6215
    @blacksheep6215 Рік тому

    I bought a Ryzen 9 7950x and is currently planning on buying a new gpu of RTX 3070ti, you think it's overkill or should be fine?

  • @krazenn6423
    @krazenn6423 Рік тому +1

    can someone recommend me a good Motherboard? first time im going to build a AMD PC, btw im going with the Ryzen 9 7700x

  • @kainable8769
    @kainable8769 Рік тому

    Could you do a build including cable management in the Thermaltake T600 Apache case?

  • @garywalsh9750
    @garywalsh9750 Рік тому

    Would love to see you build a vr ready pc, for sim racing

  • @SuperLaOfficial
    @SuperLaOfficial Рік тому +1

    So does the boot up ever speed up? Having a ssd just to have hdd boot up tims in insane to me.

  • @grinicide
    @grinicide Рік тому

    does the pre-installed AM5 mounting hardware allow for an AM4 AIO to be mounted?

  • @merdman14
    @merdman14 Рік тому +1

    So maybe this is my problem. Just built my very first PC with a ROG Strix X670E-A and a Ryzen 7 7700X and have yet to get any kind of display on my monitor. Motherboard displays a boot light and I don't get display. Maybe tomorrow when I get home home from work I'll power it on and walk away for a few mins and see what happens.

  • @KainReave
    @KainReave Рік тому +1

    So...does it keep doing that FOREVER on every single fking cold boot (which is what I'm going to use every day in the morning for 9 years - one hopes)?
    Update BIOS once (I don't really want to keep messing with it)...let it go for 5 minutes (32gb spread on 2 sticks, only 2 I got)...and then...isn't there some "remember settings to the last detail" BIOS setting?
    Also, why the hell did I find someone complain it takes 20-40s to start from cold boot? What the f is the BIOS battery for if not to keep power so it doesn't forget settings?
    Also, also, if I get an ASUS TUF B650-PLUS and AMD Expo Vengeance 32GB Dual Channel DDR5 and I have NO spare parts or RAM, how do I go about things?
    DO I flash BIOS without CPU or RAM (can I?) or do I just add everything (CPU, RAM, SSD, Cooler) and then do it...and pray? What if it doesn't boot? I DO NOT WANT to have to remove CPU, preferably EVER, and NOT THE COOLER either (like for 5 years+ after I put in it).
    Does the damn thing start of with Expo activated? And why even use expo...I just want the damn thing to work at 6000MT 36-36-36-76 at 1.35v (what it says on the ram)? Does expo try to get it to work at ....say 30-36-32-36-76 at 1.4V or what?

  • @fr0zen1isshadowbanned99
    @fr0zen1isshadowbanned99 Рік тому

    But does the RAM Calibration mean that the Boards will now work with all RAM Sticks?
    I take some Calibration time over Incompatibility ^^

  • @mrb3991
    @mrb3991 Рік тому

    HI PC Centric is my Strix 2080ti Still viable with a 7700x, my monitor only runs at 240hz at 1400p ?????? Is a 7700x worth upgrading from a 7700x , I feel I justify an upgrade coming from a 3900x Is it worth skipping the 5000 series cpu's ??????

  • @demrasnawla
    @demrasnawla Рік тому +14

    It's just dialling in the RAM timings, it does it each time you change the RAM or change the RAM settings etc.

    • @RedrumZombies
      @RedrumZombies Рік тому

      So it'll get faster and faster for within the 1st 1-4 start ups?

    • @ahmadmohamad6384
      @ahmadmohamad6384 Рік тому +1

      @@RedrumZombies no, even Ryzen 3700x take 40 seconds to boot into Windows. Intel is the one booting into Windows in under 8 seconds

    • @u-k
      @u-k Рік тому +6

      @@ahmadmohamad6384 lmao what is your source my r5 3600 boots in 10 secs

    • @ElSkeppo
      @ElSkeppo Рік тому +2

      @@ahmadmohamad6384 Lmao 3900X booting into windows in

    • @ahmadmohamad6384
      @ahmadmohamad6384 Рік тому

      @@u-k my 3700x with Asrock B450 itx and 16gb DDR4 3200MHz CL14 Ram always took over 30 seconds to boot regardless of ‘fast boot’ enabled or not.

  • @db9logic
    @db9logic 10 місяців тому

    I’m building my first gaming pc and I’ve just purchased a Ryzen 7 7800 x3d , asus Crosshair hero x670e , gigabyte master 4090 , and after watching this am concerned I e gone the wrong route . Any advice as I am still in the return window

  • @brucemoniz334
    @brucemoniz334 Рік тому

    First of all 7000 series need a new motherboard of which there are very few right now so they will come with latest bios and yes you need DDR5 memory also did you enable expo in the bios by the way what pc do you have boots in 3 or 4 seconds

  • @nobodynoone3612
    @nobodynoone3612 Рік тому +1

    I bet the delay is on ASRock motherboard only there have been some odd problems with ASRock motherboards at general. Anyone tried different brand?

  • @eflarsen
    @eflarsen Рік тому +5

    zen4 looks amazing but i don't want to deal with early adopter issues. gonna stick with zen3 (been burned too hard by intel on multiple pcs to be comfortable with an intel build) unless they work out the issues by the time i build my system.

    • @chaotus
      @chaotus Рік тому +1

      Bought a 5700XT, you can probably work out what my confidence is with early adopting something from AMD is.

    • @NDwhITeBoYZ
      @NDwhITeBoYZ Рік тому

      Interesting, i'm about to upgrade from a 6 year old intel build

    • @TheRealZark_
      @TheRealZark_ Рік тому

      Gen 3 ??? Dang

  • @patrickfrensdorff7485
    @patrickfrensdorff7485 Рік тому

    the first time running with new mem is always longer then when it runs a couple of time,second did u check the vendor list of the otherboard?

  • @Bman67
    @Bman67 Рік тому

    I have a asus rog b650e-e gaming wifi and I definitely get slow reboot times with expo on (34 sec) but, more concerning to me is I got a weird error when updating my bios. I have an installed speaker because I like to hear the beep codes and right after I initiate the bios update I get 2 beeps just prior to the update occurring. The update did go through and then my system bios was reset. I assume that's normal. This is my first build so I'm not completely sure about any of this.

  • @AngelloTmusic
    @AngelloTmusic Рік тому

    A question: while waiting for the system to recognise the DDR5, did you notice the red led on the motherboard for CPU and RAM? Cause I've just bought RYZEN 7 7700X and ASROCK X670E motherboard and that happened. Of course, I shutted it down immediately. I've checked the CPU and the pins in the socket and everything looks fine. Right now I'm remounting everything.
    Your answer would be very useful. Thank you. This is a great video to answer to many problems.

    • @user-lk5kn2tr7k
      @user-lk5kn2tr7k Рік тому

      Have the same problem, always red+yellow light and takes 40 seconds to boot. Rebooting only yellow DRAM light and same 40 seconds or so rebooting TridentZ5 RGB 5600 CL 36, Ryzen 7600x, MSI B650m MAG Wifi.

  • @GMRZR-gj4kb
    @GMRZR-gj4kb Рік тому +6

    I wonder how many boards get bricked by early adapters during a launch?

    • @oneaboveallferrarifan2725
      @oneaboveallferrarifan2725 Рік тому +1

      That’s why I’m waiting, I’m not rushed but can’t wait for build my new rig, maybe gonna wait for next year

  • @severknight1143
    @severknight1143 Рік тому

    I just bought the motherboard and ryzen 5 7600x cpu :/ does it suck?

  • @DixieSeas
    @DixieSeas Рік тому

    I have a ryzen 9 7950x with their flagship motherboard. I can't keep the temp down........ what aio cooler would be the best?

  • @AlbiBx
    @AlbiBx Рік тому

    Is the razer Hanbo cooler compatible with the asrock x670e Taichi motherboard?

  • @3nigma.3nc
    @3nigma.3nc Рік тому

    ASUS X670E-E also has the long post, sits on Q code 15 for about 2-3 mins with 64 GB RAM. Does this only on first post. Once OS is installed, it's an instant boot. Though changing a setting in the BIOS will do another long first post and is fine after. Kinda annoying but apparently it's a process to tune the memory for best performance.
    It through me for a loop at first, thought I got a dead motherboard. Would have been nice to have a display saying it's tuning memory and may take a few minutes.

  • @chriss1558
    @chriss1558 9 місяців тому

    it's been 11 months, is this still a problem now ? been thinking upgrading my pc to ryzen 7000, but i just want easy to build pc without these issue.

  • @jdoxTV
    @jdoxTV Рік тому

    its so annoying because I bought some dominator ddr5 knowing that the xmp profiles would work.
    But every boot I do it’s so slow to get past the amber dram light

  • @MartinOlminkhof
    @MartinOlminkhof Рік тому +1

    Now I know why there were news stories about improving boot times with new firmware before they even launched..

  • @westonbelisle5743
    @westonbelisle5743 Рік тому

    I wish I saw this before buying my parts I got a incompatible CPU cooler from Cooler master who make it even more confusing because they will be but aren't currently selling AM5 mounting kits for there air coolers

  • @J0kuc
    @J0kuc Рік тому

    Did you find a fix for the slow boot up time? (not first boot)
    Is anyone else having this issue?

  • @GratDuForloradeArgumentet
    @GratDuForloradeArgumentet Рік тому +4

    Should I buy a pc now? I've been waiting for so long, finally the graphic card prices have come down a bit, (but still way too expensive), but im thinking if I wait, maybe it's 1-2 months and then the new 7000 series or whatever is out of stock directly and yadayada, might just get it over with now.. I guess. Kind of sad the state of the PC-market. It's so much more expensive than it should be. Here in Scandinavia GPU:s are still over MSRP for the release over 2 years ago..

    • @NiftyMitts.
      @NiftyMitts. Рік тому

      I’m wondering the same

    • @NickyNicest
      @NickyNicest Рік тому

      I just built my first one but I’m in the states so no idea what the market is like where you are. Prices seem to be slowly coming down and we are on the brink of next gen releases so you can find some good deals if you are ok with last gen. otherwise If you want the latest gen then ya prices will be high so you’d have to give it time to adjust. It will be interesting to see what the market is like when the new GPU’s release. Hopefully we do not have a repeat of the past couple years but I am doubtful.
      That being said, If I already had a PC prior and was just upgrading, I would’ve waited.

    • @GratDuForloradeArgumentet
      @GratDuForloradeArgumentet Рік тому +1

      ​@@NickyNicest Yeah I think I will jsut build one, I cba to wait. You have no idea how it will pan out with availabbiliy, prices and all of that anyway.
      I think im gonna buy the i5, cause the new intels use the same socket, so I can upgrader it when prices come down on the 13000-series in the future.
      USA is very very cheap compared to Europe and especially compared to Scandinavia, plus salaries are higher so it's very expensive here in comparison.

  • @AchillesV87
    @AchillesV87 Рік тому

    Hopefully by the time I’m ready to build my new pc these issues will be ironed out.

  • @mr.blaabjerg9548
    @mr.blaabjerg9548 Рік тому

    Is the "Corsair iCUE H100i ELITE CAPELLIX" compatible with AM5? :)

  • @RedrumZombies
    @RedrumZombies Рік тому

    Would The "Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML280 Mirror ARGB Close-Loop AIO" work?

  • @HyperioN-Origins
    @HyperioN-Origins Рік тому +3

    Is it still a probleem now ? The long booting ?

    • @raf9826
      @raf9826 Рік тому +1

      Yes, it started happening to me yesterday on a b650+r7 7700x🙄

  • @codelinx
    @codelinx Рік тому

    My MSI b650m mortar wifi, loaded gskill 6000 fx5 fine no issues. It loads app fast I didnt even notice the screen saver went on after a minute of no activity cause I liked at my phone.

  • @copyrightedshortsword9900
    @copyrightedshortsword9900 Рік тому

    I had the problem of my cooler when starting to build my pc, got my parts, had everything shipped and checked several times to make sure the core, motherboard, and ram and everything else would fit, then as I’m installing parts I get to my cooler after applying my thermal paste, aaaand my hyper 212 doesn’t fit because of the backplate. Now I’ve ordered a noctua air cooler, and then in my rage I upgraded my gpu to a 3060ti, goes to show you need to double check every. last. thing.

  • @michaelv1984
    @michaelv1984 Рік тому

    Yeah my ekwb velocity uses a custom backplate. They sell screws for $3.99. Cost me $14 for 4 screws with shipping. Still waiting. Picked up a Corsair h150i rgb elite while I wait. Although I could have used my 240mm Corsair while I waited but yolo!

  • @Robertomartinez-xi3kx
    @Robertomartinez-xi3kx 3 місяці тому

    Does it have a built in camera on the screen?

  • @khotsomakoe5872
    @khotsomakoe5872 Рік тому

    Does the error code only happens the first time you boot it up

  • @crusher_026
    @crusher_026 Рік тому

    Will the asus rog strix lc fit on a am5 socket? On a asus rog strix X670E-I

  • @lexapexlegend6849
    @lexapexlegend6849 Рік тому

    Do you know that deepcool have provided am4 accessories in cooler packages for years. And that am4 accessories do completely 100% compatible with am5

  • @Nifty_Pete
    @Nifty_Pete Рік тому

    If that's all, I come from time with hdd and windows 95 😅, I just ordered 7700x with the asus prime x670 p.
    I'm still running a i7 4790k and it's time for a upgrade

  • @Stazz
    @Stazz Рік тому +3

    would that always happen?

  • @hamiltonshangar
    @hamiltonshangar Рік тому

    How old are you my friend? You have been killing it for ten years which blows my mind as a new enthusiast lol! Cheers!

  • @KannonRomano
    @KannonRomano Рік тому +1

    Interesting. Curious on how the new intel 13th gen is going to be

  • @roberthale8407
    @roberthale8407 Рік тому +3

    Why is the cooler issue such a big deal? We all went through the same issue with AM3+ to AM4.

    • @Eternalozzie
      @Eternalozzie Рік тому

      it's a big deal as this is how all quality cooler attach. you can spend $1000 on this upgrade then not be able to attach a decent cooler.

  • @djenk12345
    @djenk12345 Рік тому

    I also have slow start with my ryzen 3900x and both gigabyte and asus motherboard but not as slow as in the video but slow compared to my laptop with a bit older intel i5 cpu. does anyone know if the new intel 13600k or if intel just is faster at boot up time+ ?

  • @RandomGuy-qn2fr
    @RandomGuy-qn2fr Рік тому +2

    It's the expo profile. I bought the intel profile thinking there shouldn't be any issues with ryzen but i been getting the same problems you are. Had to reorder a new set of memory one specifically designed for amd expo profile. The manufacturers are making two sets now one for intel and one for amd to force consumers to spend even more money if they decide to switch platforms

    • @Voshchronos
      @Voshchronos Рік тому

      Wait what, really?

    • @CigsInABlanket
      @CigsInABlanket Рік тому

      From the memory support list of the B650 Aorus Elite AX, concerning Corsair memory in a 2x16gb 5600MHz configuration, only the Intel optimized sticks are supported.

    • @lieutenantdave
      @lieutenantdave Рік тому

      I accidentally purchased intel optimised the only thing different is the timings which you can change. I havnt and had no issues get fast boot speeds

  • @bignicnrg3856
    @bignicnrg3856 Рік тому

    That was so difficult. I mean you had to stand there for a whole 4 minutes.

  • @danielledonaldson5598
    @danielledonaldson5598 Рік тому

    Hi my son wants his gaming pc case upgraded, The place where it was built is no longer upgrading do you know a specialist that can do it or how much do you charge ?

    • @Jackjo0_123
      @Jackjo0_123 Рік тому

      Do it yourself it’s super easy just don’t fuck it up

  • @snoopaloop65
    @snoopaloop65 Рік тому

    did you match memory to approved amd am5 memory

  • @ahmadmohamad6384
    @ahmadmohamad6384 Рік тому +4

    My i5 4690k and a 1TB SSD boots into Windows in 8 seconds. AMD Ryzen is soo slow booting into Windows it feels like a downgrade.

  • @tundramonkey
    @tundramonkey Рік тому +55

    Jayz2Cents figured the RAM bios cycling out and explained it on day one. I don't know how so many other UA-camrs haven't gotten up to speed on it. When I saw Centric swap out the ram in his first build I was shouting "Just waaaaaaaiiiiiit!" LOL.

    • @neoperol
      @neoperol Рік тому +29

      Sure because after spending 1k USD on next Gen cutting edge tech waiting 5 minutes to Post for the first time is the new norm.

    • @PcCentric
      @PcCentric  Рік тому +23

      Exactly - isn't an issue on AM4 or Intel - seems wayyyy too long

    • @tundramonkey
      @tundramonkey Рік тому +8

      @@neoperol Agreed. Seems like the manufacturers spend more time working out led lighting schemes on these monster boards than they do ironing out the BIOS now days.

    • @lukasjankauskas8660
      @lukasjankauskas8660 Рік тому +9

      @@neoperol yeah, I'd rather wait a bit on first ever boot and let the system tighten up the timings and get me the £1k I paid for

    • @TheLordNugget
      @TheLordNugget Рік тому +9

      Technically even Jay had to reach out to his manufacturer contact to be certain about it. That's why there's a lot of youtubers who don't have that info. It's not like Jay figured it out by himself.

  • @AxleLotl
    @AxleLotl 11 місяців тому +15

    Just as a small update for those watching and perhaps are unaware 😁
    Issue 1: There's now a "Short" AM5 backplate by thermal grizzly that you can replace your motherboards backplate with (If needed) and will be compatible with both your SAM (Socket actuated mechanism) and your AM4 cooler that required the backplate change.
    Issue 2: AMD chips, Ryzen in particular are very memory speed dependent for their performance, this extended wait time is called "Memory training" and has been around since Ryzen 1st Gen, just be patient, 99.9% of all PC issues are able to be solved. It also helps if the RAM you're using is EXPO compatible, please check the retailer for more info.
    Issue 3: This is a common issue with all new tech, Intel included, developers will always prioritise stability over outright speed, my AM5 system boots in about 10 seconds on a Gen4 SSD (In the back slot of my motherboard), if this problem persists for months and months, perhaps do some research on how you've got your system configured as there is a good chance it's an easy fix :)

    • @karlos1060
      @karlos1060 8 місяців тому

      Is that 10 seconds from when you press the bower button or 10 seconds when it starts to post? My Ryzen 9 5900X works really fast from the start. I know Ryzen is memory sensative and enabling EXPO can cause instability. I recently bought a Ryzen 7 7800 X3D but within 1 hour it was dead 😢 so send it back and got a refund.
      Also it seemed to take a long time to boot up. I am talking about 1 month ago when i bought it. I had 5600 mhz ddr5 corsair with AMD optimisation and a 650 msi board.
      Still thinking about to try again. But i don't like long boot times or instable systems.

    • @AxleLotl
      @AxleLotl 8 місяців тому

      @karlos1060 10 seconds from pressing the restart function on the desktop. It's very quick.
      EXPO is a huge help for AMD, killing your CPU wouldve been faulty hardware, very few actually have that issue.

    • @karlos1060
      @karlos1060 8 місяців тому

      @@AxleLotl Okay, thanks for the info. I am still leeaning towards rebuying a 7800X3D.
      But from what i heard is that EXPO can easely kill 7800X3D chips. Maybe also due to older bios agesa?
      I know it was a think when they launched, and i experienced it myselve.
      And do you think it is stable enough to go for the 6000mhz ram instead of 5600?
      My 5900X also has 3600mhz amd opt ram, but it's not stable at that speed. So i don't use expo and it works perfect.

  • @zeus.edwards2662
    @zeus.edwards2662 Рік тому

    gotta love new stuff with problems, only time will make things better, I'll upgrade in late
    2023

  • @MultiSam247
    @MultiSam247 Рік тому +5

    i would love to know what the new cpus are like with air coolers

    • @Vincent-tz4jl
      @Vincent-tz4jl Рік тому +2

      Yeah as an air cooler fan I'm pairing one of the big tower coolers with a 7900x, hopefully the performance drop isn't too severe with this new 95c aim.

    • @rosenrot6871
      @rosenrot6871 Рік тому

      @Galactica Phantom thank you so much for that insight!

  • @steviewonder402
    @steviewonder402 Рік тому +2

    So hyped, I’m upgrading from an old i5 intel cpu from 2014 and a gtx 770, to a 7900x with a 6700xt, thank you for this video!

    • @TheNicePIXEL
      @TheNicePIXEL Рік тому

      I'm doing the same thing !!! Upgrading from a AMD FX-6300 and a GTX 660 from 2014 to a 7900X and RTX 3080 🥰. You finished your build ? Looking forward to hear good news from you :D .

    • @BeastMode-ts6eg
      @BeastMode-ts6eg Рік тому +1

      I have the 7900xtx with 7700x. Ima switch to a 7900x. I feel like the 7700x bottlenecks the GPU. Im getting 132fps in warzone at 1080p. Something aint right

    • @steviewonder402
      @steviewonder402 Рік тому +1

      @@TheNicePIXEL it works great, I don’t play many games these days but I’m glad I can use it for college, everything loads up very quick and it feels extremely snappy.

    • @TheNicePIXEL
      @TheNicePIXEL Рік тому +1

      @@steviewonder402 niceeeee, just got some of the parts, cand wait to get the rest of them, instead of RTX 3080 i switched to a 4070 Ti and a Ryzen 9 7900x3d

    • @EjayT06
      @EjayT06 Рік тому

      @@BeastMode-ts6eg yeah it will bottleneck at 1080p

  • @TMLFerreira
    @TMLFerreira Рік тому +1

    Tell me the Noctua NH-D15S works on this... At least their website say it does...

  • @2buckgeo843
    @2buckgeo843 Рік тому

    Will my 240mm aio capellix elite suffice for 7900x bro

  • @turtlefeet7722
    @turtlefeet7722 Рік тому

    I had code 55 with intel. Any idea?

  • @LadyTink
    @LadyTink 4 місяці тому

    wow, I literally think I mistakenly though it wasn't posting
    weird
    ddr5 ram speed issues ?

  • @SHAHEERPLAYS
    @SHAHEERPLAYS Рік тому

    Hey can you please help me.. so I am upgrading from my rx580 to a 3080. Where I live the asus rog is if converted in pounds is exactly 1000 pounds, its the best deal here . Currently I have a 3700x.
    Do you think I should upgrade to a 7700x . Although not only tho I would have to change my cpu but also my b550 and my ram. So is the performance upgrade worth it because its really expensive when you factor in thr mobo ram and cpu. As I will mostly be doing gaming in 1080p with lots of heavy editing

    • @Angel_Espinal
      @Angel_Espinal Рік тому

      make sure to get the 12 gb variant of the 3080. As for the cpu inquiry, get a 5900x if it is for gaming/ editing, if its just gaming a 5800x3d will do you just fine. The new cpus aint meant for gaming so the performance boost is minor, 5-10 % on some games and almost identical or even worse than a 5800x3d on some others.

    • @SHAHEERPLAYS
      @SHAHEERPLAYS Рік тому

      @@Angel_Espinal damn your right i should just get the 5800x3d as it's almost identical in performance and on top of that I don't have to even change my ram. Although where I live the 12gb variant isn't avaliable. So ima just go either the 10gb. Either way thanks

  • @Pillokun
    @Pillokun Рік тому

    My asus rog ztrix b660i with corsair dominator 5600c36 took way over a min to boot as well.

  • @Boracbr
    @Boracbr Рік тому

    I paired the 7900x with asus tuff x670e..... with corsair aio and had absolutely no issues. post in under a minute. the cooler mounted right on existing holes. you should not even be using air cooling on 7000 series chips.

  • @joshuac5229
    @joshuac5229 Рік тому

    I have a Ryzen 7950x and a B650 Tomahawk mobo. I cannot get the machine to boot at all, I get the red CPU light and yellow DRAM light. Did everything from flashing BIOS to resetting CMOS to reseating the RAM and CPU and testing out different RAM slots individually with the 2 different sticks. I'm going to drive to a neighboring city today to try swapping out my RAM for a different kind, but I've now encountered the issue with 2 different B650 motherboards AND 2 different CPU's. If swapping the RAM doesn't work, I am going to just abandon the B650 and try a different mobo/chipset. It's a real ship of Theseus right now, and the same problems across both installs :/

    • @leelo4717
      @leelo4717 Рік тому

      I'm in exaclty the same position with a gigabyte b650 board and corsair dominator ram. The ram is intel xmp optimized so i have ordered the same ram for AMd expo. Let's see if this works.

    • @kizu5234
      @kizu5234 Рік тому

      @@leelo4717did it work?

    • @leelo4717
      @leelo4717 Рік тому +1

      @@kizu5234 it turns out my ram was absolutely fine. I actually found a small cluster of 6 pins on the motherboard that were bent. On a brand new board too! I was able to use a sewing needle to bend the pins back into shape and now the ram boots fine and is super stable with the xmp profile enabled.

    • @kizu5234
      @kizu5234 Рік тому

      @@leelo4717 interesting interesting, I’ll keep that in mind when I upgrade

  • @Latinkuro
    @Latinkuro Рік тому +2

    Those boot time and bios issues are unacceptable!

  • @RandomGuy-qn2fr
    @RandomGuy-qn2fr Рік тому

    After reading the comment about the expo i remembered i bought the intel expo for ryzen which was giving me the same issues you're experiencing. Had to rebuy the memory with the amd expo

    • @adeelio
      @adeelio Рік тому

      EXPO labeled memory is AMD specific. XMP is intel. Memory modules sold have either EXPO or XMP stickered on them.

  • @Coltboy00
    @Coltboy00 Рік тому +1

    Seems to just take ages when the DDR5 is at high speeds which is ludicrous.

  • @dwarfcow
    @dwarfcow Рік тому +1

    4 months later and my gigabyte proart will spontaneously decide it's never going to post & boot. Not minutes, hours /days. It's total crap.

  • @AR-Race
    @AR-Race Рік тому

    I accidently ordered the Intel XMP version of the Corsair Vengeance ram. Everything seemed to be working okay but when you actually try and play 90% of games crash on after 2-10 minutes.
    I did notice an amber light on the dram for my motherboard but it only appears on boot and disappears after a few seconds. Being a noob I thought this was normal ... kind of like when you start a car.
    Anyway I've ordered the AMD expo version of the ram and hopefully it fixes it, but who knows.
    Please let me know if I'm incorrect about anything.
    I'm running a 4080 FE and a 7900x.

    • @CigsInABlanket
      @CigsInABlanket Рік тому

      What's your motherboard? Looking at the B650 Aorus Elite AX memory support list, concerning Corsair memory in a 2x16gb 5600MHz configuration, only the Intel optimized sticks are supported.

    • @AR-Race
      @AR-Race Рік тому

      @@CigsInABlanket I’ve got the MSI B650 Tomahawk. I ordered and installed the AMD expo today as wasn’t getting 5600 out of the XMP despite MSI website saying you could. Expo ram now running at the 5600.
      Regardless. Fixed my issue with the crashing. Had updated drivers but found a 3 more that weren’t up to date using a checker tool. Something to do with IDE? Can’t remember. I also removed a daisy chain to my graphics card and used 3 separate cables instead. Don’t know which one did it but it all works perfectly now.

    • @CigsInABlanket
      @CigsInABlanket Рік тому

      @@AR-Race Oddly enough, looking at the memory support for that board (2x16gb, 5600), only Intel optimized sticks are listed. My guess it was something else causing it, or perhaps faulty RAM on your first go.

  • @moe2o4
    @moe2o4 Рік тому

    So I'm currently running AM4 and a 3800X and a 3090Ti and been waiting for the new AM5 release instead of going ryzen 5000. So potentially looking to upgrade cpu, motherboard, ram and new SSD's.

    • @nTnz_
      @nTnz_ Рік тому

      ZEN 2 uses AM4

    • @moe2o4
      @moe2o4 Рік тому

      @@nTnz_ typo it is AM4 but I'm on a X370 motherboard, Asus Rog Crosshair VI Hero.

  • @UnrighteousMadeRight
    @UnrighteousMadeRight Рік тому

    anyone know if this has been resolved? The slow boot up time i mean.

  • @AeroAngle
    @AeroAngle Рік тому

    When will they release b650 boards????

  • @Imtheyas1991
    @Imtheyas1991 Рік тому +6

    Intelligent auto ram setting process. It is pretty good. It is faster than manual setting...

  • @cali_cal
    @cali_cal Рік тому +2

    1 thing I hate is slow boot time

  • @franknberries7639
    @franknberries7639 Рік тому

    Will I need to remove that backplate for my noctua u12-a?

    • @johnwayneasgenghiskhan4699
      @johnwayneasgenghiskhan4699 Рік тому

      Most air coolers use the standard back plate. It's the AIOs that are hit and miss. But at a raging 95C most air coolers wont cut it with the R9s.

  • @quinkussj
    @quinkussj Рік тому

    Has anyone else had voltage spikes causing instability issues?

  • @galindojamie
    @galindojamie Рік тому

    can these AMD MBs use over 64gb of ram without issues? unlike the problem intel had or has with 12900k