Top 5 Best CPUs of 2023
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09:10 - Up to $300, Now We’re Getting Serious!
14:46 - Spending Up Around $400 US
17:08 - The Flagship Desktop Fight, $500+
19:33 - Final Thoughts
Top 5 Best CPUs 2023
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the best balls to the wall CPU : AMD FX8350
Best balls through the walls CPU: AMD FX 9590
i5-3570K actually
Waiting for FX8350x3D to humiliate 14900k!
@@xxprouxx just as bad but not as famous 🤣
@@notchipotle the irony here is because those FX series were heavily binned, the 8320 needed much voltage to run even slower than the 8350
Just upgraded my R5 3600 to an R7 5700X. I was originally set on the 5800X3D, but the 5700X was on sale for half the price, so couldn't pass up that value
I literally did the exact same thing. Great minds think alike! Super happy with my purchase. I paired it with a 4070 for Blender and Substance Painter
I bought the Ryzen 5 5500 two months ago for $65 brand new so I'm really satisfied with my purchase.
Good deal !
That’s an amazing deal and you figure at some point there will be 5000X3D chips for under $200
5500 trades blows with the 3600 that have been around $50-60 for well over a year. Not to poo poo on your deal but it’s not a crazy good price considering the performance it can give. It has half the L3 cache (16mb)as the standard 5600 (32mb) and up cpus and it only supports gen3. If you are on B550 or X570 already I would recommend keeping an eye out for a used 5700x or better deals that will net you double the cache and gen4 which will help if running direct storage games and or a 8x modern gpu like a 6600/4060.
I just bought a $115 5700x not because I needed it over the 5600x but because I could push out a standard 5600 for $100 easily. If you just wait for a crazy used deal on a 5600x/5700x/5800x you can then sell your 5500 for max pricing around $80 and have very little out of pocket.
It’s all about price, find a crazy good deal right around $100 for a proper 32mb version and then sell your 5500 for much of the cost of the upgrade. I just went from AM4 to AM5 for like $30-40 out of pocket.
@@45eno 5600 is 20% faster at most compared to the 5500, and is twice the price. 80% performance for 50% of the price is not a bad purchase.
Swithed to a 7800X3D from an i5-7600K after 7 years. Thought it would be unstable after hearing many people complain but it has been absolutely rock solid so far.
I just picked up the 7800X3D, very excited to install it
The 5800X3D will be remembered as one of the greatest CPU releases. It’s up there with the Athlon 64 X2, 8086, MOS 6502, i5-2500K and M1 for chips that rocked the entire market and have left a huge legacy, like the 7800X3D
Only intel fanboys complain due to ryzen lapping them
Not gonna lie, I upgraded to a 7800x3d and it is kinda generally more unstable than the 13th gen intel I was on before. The intel CPUs tend to be more plug and play you don't really need to worry about downloading the chipset drivers and stuff, but its really really important for AMD CPUs. that and the 7800x3d seems to just be stuttier than the equivalent intel CPU even though the performance is higher, its weird. I heard people calling it the AMDIP. but its been noticable for me even after making sure everything is set up right, and sticking with 6000cl30 ram which is measured to be the best for the 1% lows. and turning off all the potiential issue causers like core memory isolation, and rebar and HAGs and stuff to test
@@mercurio822But wouldn't lapping improve their performance?
:)
Great video, Steve. I'm super pleased with my 5700X (replaced a 2200G) on an X470. It runs fast, cool, and seems generally well balanced.
Remember when Intel were charging £1200+ for a 6 core 980x lol. Now look 😅
I love your chill and smooth transition music. This is a truly original comment that I guarantee no one else will make.
Amazing technical review. Very helpful. Thanks and keep up!
I run a Ryzen 5700X.
Not least because of the 8/16 core being better than the 5600X 6/12 core, but mostly because it remains a 65W part.
5800X consumes 105W, an extra 40W for a few percent of extra speed.
Power consumption is the most important factor for me, since I'm running on solar/battery.
With modern CPU's and mobos TDP is not a problem - you can even choose 14900k and run it with 65w limitations. It's always price/performance matters, but according to your power budget. I have SFF with 5800x3d with 70w CPU limitation, that never limit any game I played, but allow my ears to be in safe :)
TDP isn't power draw though, a 5600x isn't going to draw 65W vs 105W of an 5800X. What matters is actual power draw from the wall socket, not tdp
Nobody buy the 5600X when you can grab the 5600 ans save money, same goes for the 5800X with the X3D that still is the best performer for video game on Zen3/Alder lake
Got bad news then buddy, might wanna check your GPU power draw and see how it mauls the cpu. Also an APU would suit you better.
Those figures are TDP, that is not power consumption. A 5800x with a TDP of 105w doesn’t mean it will draw that in power consumption.
The 7800x3D is so amazing, I went from a 3600 to a 7800x3D and the difference is HUGE
I went from an AMD FX 8350, yes a 10 year generational upgrade to the 7800X3D!
What are the rest of your specs?
Same, it performs great
3600 to 7700x here great upgrade. especially with them microcenter deals mobo cpu and ram for 399
@@MrAnimescrazy 3080 and 32 gb ram at 6000mhz, mainly game in 1440p and I got the 3080 last September brand new for msrp
Got the 7700X in a motherboard/CPU/RAM bundle from Microcenter for $400 back in July. A steal🤙🏾
i put together a system for my friend and he got the 12100f for $67. it was really a solid system, and it had a decent upgrade path. he later dropped in a 12700kf for like $200 because it seemed like a good deal to him.
I'm not always convinced by the approach of buying low end parts to replace them with other parts that were already available, in that it can end up costing more. But it sounds like your friend did alright here :) Good for him, and good on you for sorting his system out!
@@Jelfish416thats cause youre right, it doesnt make any sense.. unless you were an impatient kid unable to save money or just somebody that was ignorant to how much performance you actually wanted. I completely regretted cheaping out with a 2600X when zen 2 was already out even and then eventually went to a 3700X then a 12700K. Since going 12700K around release, this is the longest ive gona without upgrading cause i really dont feel like i need a 14700K and wont need a zen 5 or 15th gen intel CPU. Its just not worth it and the 4070 Ti is more than enough at 1440p except some shit games that run like shit like Starfield or something.
Im at a point now where i think you should just buy a decently buff rig and not pay attention to tech after and go touch grass. When you constantly buy cheaper parts that need to be replaced soon you put yourself in a spot where you pay wayyy too much attention to tech channels and stuff that make you wanna upgrade for meager ass performance increases or suck you into a weird ass corporate tribalism where you start basing your identity on a corporation that literally gives no fucks about you. Kinda avoid that by just every 3-5 years going “already whats actually good now and let me get something quality that works for me from the start and has decent legs”
@@Jelfish416 i usually buy high end myself and ride it out till im just not happy. in his case he was coming from a p4 system with a 750ti. the 12100f and 3060ti was quite in increase in performance. he told me he wanted the best bang for the buck and as cheap as possible. he insisted on intel and nvidia because his last system served him well.
The CPU that surprised me the most in my builds over the last decade was a 10700k paired with an Asus Hero XII motherboard. That PC always ran faultlessly overclocked to 4.9MHz and with the turbo boost to 5.3MHz with zero throttling on a 360 AIO cooler.
@@993mike Is that how much faster with those than the original 1981's IBM PC with its 4.77MHz 8088?
I made a single CPU purchase in 2023: a 5600 to replace a 1700 on an existing X370 board. It required a specific succession of chipset and BIOS updates, but it worked. Very nice performance boost. Why not a 5700X? For the role of the PC in question, six cores are plenty, I got an adequate cooler in the box, and the savings paid for a RAM upgrade as well. The 1700 remains with me in case I ever need to update an old AM4 board again.
Great and cheap upgrade. Am4 at its best
I updated a tomahok b550 a month ago, and i guess I'm literally the only peron on the internet who's gotten it to work using the usb drive. LMAO I literally fell asleep after troubleshooting for hours and woke up and the pc was posting. But yeah kinda just wish I had an older ryzen cpu kicking around.
The 5700X is truly an awesome budget part, but it's worth bearing in mind - it doesn't come with a box cooler, you'll need to get an extra cooler from somewhere. I use an AMD Wraith Prism, it's more than adequate but expensive - a Peerless Assassin is probably a good option :)
Bought it and happy! It's much closer to 5800x than 5600x. And eats much less energy compare to 5800x!
@@M6nst6r6 Yeah, even in demanding games where the load is evenly shared among the cores like Cyberpunk, the CPU never goes above 30W in Adrenalin XD Kinda nuts how efficient it is, if only we'd get GPU's as efficient and performant
mine has a single tower Noctua cooler on it and it works an absolute treat, I don't think you'd need a big cooler like that. mind you I do live in quite a cool ambient temp (sometimes as low as 16C) so we'll see how bad it gets in the summer when the temp in my room goes up 10 degrees 😬
@@K.C-2049 I have no doubt Noctua cooling would work a treat with the 5700X :D I'm actually in North-East Scotland, Aberdeen and it regularly this time of year gets down to sub zero temps, and my flat doesn't have gas heating - on a basic Wraith Prism and I've never seen my CPU go over 60C, the 5700X is a beast
If you have a good cooler like one from Noctua, you can keep using that from CPU gen to CPU gen. You can get required parts to fit old cooler to new socket quite cheap. While AMDs coolers are not terrible, I would still mostly not use them, but pretty much any tower cooler instead.
Congrats guys on reaching a million mark, truly a great channel for newbies and pros, Great vid Steve as always, keep it up
Great video, thanks for putting this together
I bought the 7700X November last year during a launch sale. It was a very good purchase and I do not regret I didn't wait for the 7700 (it wasn't announced yet back then). I am happy to see that it is still a good option after all the releases a year later.
Nice move
Can just put it in eco-mode and it’s basically a 7700
Was it an upgrade or a new build all together? Happy Gaming in any case though
Same, I got it last December and I've had it with a -30mv undervolt and it's been great and efficient that way
You'd regret it once you tried my 7950x
Could I suggest you include the figures in text during the video, for those of us who struggle to listen, follow along and try to compare options in our mind? It would allow us to pause the video and process the info better
What a good analysis of cpu values. Thank you so much!
I like the video, good info but I think some numbers on screen when you are adding up builds would help.
Meanwhile, my i7-7820HQ and Radeon WX-7100 still play the games that I play. No need to upgrade for me :)
Stayed up until after 4 am for this video! Got a 12600k, Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Elite AX DDR4 and Deepcool AK400 for $350 today at Microcenter. I reused the rest of my system. Seems like a great upgrade for my 7700k. Plan is this will eventually be a dedicated Plex server once I build my next gaming PC.
At Microcenter Should have Gotten the 12900k ddr5 or 7700x Bundle for $400
12900k is old
Good buy with your budget in mind.
@@zalankhan5743Unless one had a specific motherboard in mind for their build, those Microcenter bundles are always pretty great value.
Only reason I didn't do that for my 7800X3D upgrade was that I wanted the ASRock B650E Taichi Lite, which was (is?) only on Newegg...
"old" i'm not sure if you're baiting, but that is not what's considered old, lmao.@@ironsteal
I bought the AM5 7700X this January comes with NZXT 360mm watercooling system, and it runs amazingly smooth and never reach 70 degree celsius after turning off PBO.
The 7950X3D made me jump on AM5 much sooner than I normally would have. I went 2700X to 5950X on the same B450 board... But then the 5800X3D came out and my jaw dropped on the floor. The problem just is that I need cores for software compilation, so I was pleasantly surprised that AMD decided to give me an option. It's been a little over two months with it so far, and BOY does that thing rip!
Love mine too, the 7950x3d scored on efficiency, workloads but also games, and it's lowest price ever for 16-core product (when no new cpu ranger is launched yet) and 3d cache included, don't regret it, might even be long time before i upgrade to 9950x3d cause this thing is plenty fast.
I'm picking 5900X as a Christmas gift for myself. AM5 is just too pricey for me, and it will serve well as both my streaming machine with 12 cores and a gaming machine with my 6800XT. Optimizing it with Curve Optimizer will take twice as much time as 5600 🤣
what res is the monitor you use
I have a 5900X from about two years ago. It's great and I notice differences from my other 2700x machine even at boot time. Today it is even cheaper than a 5800x 3d by around 50$ - at least around my area.
Get to a micro center if you can. Good mobo combos. Watch out for open boxes though. I got a little screwed on a case.
That Antec case is awesome. I just got it 2 weeks ago to build my new system. Got the the 7800X3D and the RTX 4080 in it now.
I really like the front panel. Pretty unique.
Great recommendations! I stand behind them!
Great video, i agree with it all. but there should be the best in board upgrade cpu category, where we know the 5800x3d is the clear winner, but the other upgrades might be nice to see in the line out.
I got a 7900X for $350 _with_ 32 GB of ddr5 6000 ram included free. Actually I bought an extra 32GB as well (and yeah, "never buy unmatched ram"... but it was the same brand, lot, serial number, and they're all single-rank, so I was able to get them to play nice at their rated speed, your mileage may vary).
Considering the 7950X was about $200 more, and the 7800X3D wasn't out yet (and initially was also $200 more), I'm quite happy with my pick.
Also, the pc is "mixed use" and it's "4k"... so, budget multicore performance (for mixed use) and I have minimal cpu bottleneck concerns (cuz 4k puts the bottle on the gpu).
All the experts were recommending a 5800X3D at the time (and it''s a great cpu), but one of the reasons I was building a new pc was because my previous build was stranded on the wrong side of a motherboard & ram platform change, so I wanted AM5 to forestall that eventuality on the new build. I'll probably swap it out eventually with a 8800 X3D or 9800X3D eventually (whenever AM5 is hitting it's end of life stage). AM5 engenders a LOT of new standards (pcie 4, many lanes, ddr5, and the cpu socket itself).
Took a very different approach to gpu though. Wanted rock solid 4k performance with no if's/but's. So I went with a 4090. Considering it runs 4k "great" _without_ DLSS, _and_ I have DLSS to fall back on in the future... It seemed like a very long-term (albeit high cost) investment. I've undervolted it slightly, and made sure the plug is tighter than humanly possible, and the card's floating corner is well supported.
I love how the CPU market has evolved in recent years. Good prices and amazing performance. If only the GPU market would follow suit.
Great video, thanks for the help!!
I bought the 7800X3D and paired it with Gigabyte X670 Gaming X AX V2 and a 32GB Corsair Dominator Titanium kit. Black Friday had some good deals on these.
Literally my build! All good?
@@BrokenKanuck why you ask, you have some problems with your build?
@BrokenKanuck Its great :) I have no problems with it.
I’m rocking the 7800X3D with the Asrock X670E Steel Legend and 32GB 7200 Trident Neo. It’s definitely fast in games!
Always love these lists and find it very interesting how different the US market is compared to the austrian/german one where I buy from. You can get a Ryzen 3600 boxed for less than 80€ and a Ryzen 5600 for as little as 110€ over here, there is almost no reason to go with Intel, as the 5600 easily beats the 12100 and the 3600 easily beats the 10100. Back in 2020/2021 when I built my latest PC the 10400f was significantly cheaper than the Ryzen 3600 counterpart and that was a great choice for me, but things change and I dont think there is a single good Intel option right now that beats any AMD counterpart in price to performance, let alone power consumption and upgradability.
be careful about power consumption charts. Because while Intel has a higher Pmax, the idle is way more decent than Ryzen parts. So the final Wh really depends on the use case scenario.
@@PainterVierax Thats true indeed, esp on the low ends Intel is pretty good even in recent generations, but under load I wouldnt dare running an air cooler on anything higher than a 13600k but the 7800x3d could probably still run with a 20$ tower cooler, even with its lower tjmax
It's similar in the UK.
The Ryzen 5 5600 is the same price as the i3-12100F (£120), and the Ryzen 5 5500 is much cheaper (£88).
Been having the amazing 7950X3D since March, never looked back.
Same here.
I hope we get the same Top 5 video for AM5 Motherboards
I picked up the 5800x for 179 and AsRock Steel Legend B550M for 130. Almost grabbed the Gigabyte B550M until i saw your video on motherboard thermals. Would have loved the 7600 but couldn't swing it and I am happy with the 5800x performance over my old i7 6800k.
i got the 7950x3d and love how cool its running and how it uses low power. I did modify my bios to add the first 8 3d cores to a higher rate than the other cores because of the windows always picking higher cores and using non 3d cores instead of the 3d ones for games. thanks for you work great as always
I went from a 4790k to a 13600k. Enjoying the upgrade:)
same man went from a 2500k to 13600k crazy jump and hope it lasts just as long :D
i got a 13600k all cores 5.4ghz with a 4080 and its perfect for 1440p@@intelligentdesignmorty8112
I went from a 4790k to a 7950x its snapi like old one
Picked up a 7950x3d for gaming and game dev workloads. I'm very happy with my choice. Only issue with the motherboard upgrade is usb cutting out occasionally and ram stability on first boots. The usb is an issue I also had on am4 for a while. Solved the ram issue by slotting only one stick of RAM and then updating the bios from there.
Sounds like a mobo issue. I am not having the same problems. I use a ASUS Prime X670E Pro WiFi mobo. Probably the best quality and yet least expensive (for the features) X670E mobo out there right now. My RAM is G.Skill Trident Z DDR5-6000 CL30 RAM (EXPO).
Be aware that if you moved to ANY x3d CPU prior to the BIOS fixes that corrected a lot of over-voltage issues with x3d CPUs you may have latent damage that shows up over time as well. I don't have empirical data to back me on that, just a gut feeling after building PCs for 30 years. Just FYI.
@@goUkraine I'm using a B650 Aorus Elite AX (V1.2). This was a brand new build so I barely ran the cpu on launch bios. I had the same issue with my AM4 MOBO and BIOS updates did help but more than likely I think the issue might be that I need to reinstall a clean installation of Win11. I'm currently running off of a Win11 install from my previous build and I haven't got around to dealing with it yet, been too busy. It also doesn't happen too often but when it does its annoying and lasts for a few seconds.
Appreciate the video. Would be good if you could also consider whether your recommendation is the same in Australia where the pricing can be quite different. Eg 14700kf is cheaper than 7900X.
I guess you would just say “go with whatever is cheaper in your region” which is fair 😂
Got the 7800x3d and it's amazing. I don't know what cpu bottleneck is anymore.
City skyline, maybe😂
@@JahonCross nah that game is so unoptimized that it’s a gpu bottleneck
A 7950x3d will solve this but most people refuse to believe 8 cores are a thing of the past. Cyberpunk will use 10 cores if you have them. To rely on a game to be optimized is a fools errand.
I don't know what is a CPU bottleneck anymore too (i have an i7-12700K, it's a console emulation beast, finally more than 300-400 fps on Unreal Tournament 2004 that runs in one thread).
I agree with the 7600. It runs as crazy for just a 6c/12t with low power use.
Thanks, perfect list
I went from an i5 11400 to the 5800X3D earlier this year, and the jump in performance was insane. Yes I went from LGA1200 to AM4, but my case is a little different; mine's a mini ITX build, and parts are somewhat expensive. I would've had to spend hundreds of dollars more just to shift to AM5 with a R5 7600. I am killing future upgrade-ability by sticking to AM4 but my scope is also not that big, in the sense that my case is so small it can't physically accommodate a relatively large GPU. Currently I have a Reference RX 6800 in there which I bought second hand for around $350, and I'm going to have to wait a bit to replace it with something that is significantly faster for the same size and cost. By then AM5 will be cheaper with faster CPUs too.
The fastest GPU that fits my case right now is the Founders 4070Ti, *if* I can find one, that is. But that's way too much money (almost 2.5x) for something that's less than 40% faster - not really a generational leap, imo. I'd need something that's atleast 2x as fast, which I don't think is happening until 2026 at the earliest.
I have the 7800X3D and beside the performance in games (that's we are all here for) the power draw is insane: at 4k and 120 FPS I get from 40-65 W consumption and with a real good water cooling never exceeds 65 C [in gaming].
In 4k a cpu has less power draw than in 1080p or 1440p because if gpu limitation so yea😂 but it still is crazy efficent
Same, max 70c / 55 watts in most games. NHD-15. Best part of my entire system.
its insane, that you can even cool it with air cooler without problems. I have 60-70 in games.
Your CPU will pay for itself in energy bill savings
@@tlap1508indeed, i run mine with the deepcool ak620 digital white and runs amazing, I made some adjustments to the pbo and etc in bios and the cpu runs at 5ghz while using 50-60w on average with 60-70c temps in my games
I recently upgraded my i5 6600K to a Ryzen 7 5700X and damn it is a worth while upgrade!
I went for the Ryzen 7700 on a B650 Aorus Elite mATX mobo on Black Friday, and I have no complaints. Rock solid and runs cool.
Great summary. Think if I were building today would consider 7700X, 7800X3D, 7900X. Did build some cheap 12th gens DDR5 earlier this year B760M and Z690s (160). Have 12700KF with 7800XT and 12900KF 7900XTX. Mom got a 12400F 3060. I spent a lot on storage and audio upgrades after. AM5 is getting there decent X boards seem around 200, have upgradability.
Bought a 7600x shortly after its release and plan to upgrade to an 8800x3d if the product is supported by my b650 tomahawk and i like the price/perfomance. So far the 7600x is doing great for any game i play in 3440x1440.
will be supported 100%, lol AM4 boards like A320 even supported 5800X3D
It will be lol. Zen 6 will be supported too
8000 series will be mobile and APUs, so it will be called 9800X3D
Since I was already on the AM4 platform, I upgraded to the Ryzen 7 5800X ($180) and paired it with the RX 6800 XT and 2x16GB 3800C16 RAM. ✌🏼
If you have 3800 running stable on Zen 3 you have won the silicon lottery jackpot on that memory controller. Practically NOBODY gets a fully stable system above 3733. How much voltage are you pumping through that sucker?
@@andersjjensen Really? I actually thought it was common on Zen 3. VSOC is 1.125V and VDIMM is 1.440V. I ran TM5 Anta777 ABSOLUT config and it passed twice. CPU is running stock and so is GPU. RAM XMP is 3600C16 at 1.400V but I manually tuned it to 3800C16 with help of Ryzen DRAM Calculator. Timings are 16-16-19-21-36-58-1T and so far no WHEAs or BSOD issues.
@@ApexLodestar If you're running that in 1:1 ratio you got lucky. Not very many people can get that stable.
@@andersjjensen 1900MHz 1:1 ratio on clocks. Not worth the latency penalty if not running 1:1. I was originally running 3733C16 1:1 but was curious if it could go 3800C16 and it did. Had no clue it was difficult to achieve. 🤩👏🏼
@@ApexLodestar You absolutely got yourself a golden sample on the IOD side of things. If the CCD undervolts as well as my 5950X did (-25mV, +200Mhz PBO for near constant 5GHz) then you have yourself a diamond sample and should put it in a little shrine when it's done it's duty :P
Another question, if I may. The x3d cache is a type of memory, does it have a limits to reads and writes like an SSD? If so, does it outlast the chip on the CPU?
i absolutely love your channel, thank you so much
*Thank you so much for your reviews and hard work! Thanks to you i am building a new 5800x3D build this Monday! Keep up the good work!*
Couldn't you better go for the Ryzen 5 7600? Unless you already have a PC with a AM4 mobo and you're just upgrading it's better to jump on AM5 with a Ryzen 5 7600.
@@zoopa9988or they could just build what they prefer/budget for.... what harm.is there in their choice? With that cpu,they'll get a decent timeline of use out of it still.
Yeah i hear you. But i didnt have enough budget to replace my DDR4 RAM with DDR5 - plus i bet that the upgrade benefits i will get by upgrading from a 2700X, will be more than obvious.@@zoopa9988
@@scottmiller7284 As pointed out in the video, not much point in getting a 5800X3D unless you already have an AM4 motherboard. You can get equal or better performance on AM5 at a similar price.
What are the rest of your specs?
im going from an i7 3770s to a ryzen 5 5500 so im happy either way and where i live the intel side of things are just more expensive
Starting the day with☕ and hardware unboxed video. You know it's gonna be a good day.
I'm liking the arrows in the graphs.
got the 12100 (non-f) and it is amazing for what it is... runs with a 3060Ti and gives very enjoyable game experiences
Isn't that a very slow CPU?
@@aos32its a fast cpu and its powerful enough to handle a 3060ti and it has hyperthreading.
@@degroot50It has 4 fast cores, great for budget gaming.
EDIT: It’s just 10% slower than the i9 9900k in gaming; if that’s not fast for a budget CPU, I don’t know what is.
12100 is very decent!. If you find a mobi with external clock generator like Asrock 760(m) raptor - you can overclock it to 5ghz and achieve another boost in performance. Low core parts of 1700 platform is very efficient. I bought Pentium g7400 on eBay for a few bucks to use with some small build, but didn't find anything interesting on the mobo side. In times of 1151 there were a lot mini stx boards. That can be nice media player with some retro gaming
I stand corrected, it is not as bad as I thought it was. With gaming performance almost on par with 10600k. And not a bad combo for 3060 Ti.
Upgraded to a 7800X3D this year and so far so good! Slow to post sometimes but not a big deal. I do have a 6900XT and so far having no AMD driver shenanigans like i did on my previous system haha. Hopefully i get 8 years out of this CPU like i did with my last
pretty much extactly the same system for me, my younger brother made me choose this and i am really enjoying the gaming experience on this combination of 7800X3D and 6900XT
The slow Post thing is weird to me. My 7800 3dx never takes longer than 10 sec from hitting power switch on the MSI 670e tomahawk. What MB do you use?
You upgrade from an 7700 to 7800x3d? Not really worth it tbh
@@NamTran-xc2ip who said they went from a 7700x to a 7800x3d?
Sometimes the Mobo will re-train the memory causing you to get a slow post
For my first build. I went way overboard but I’ve always wanted a near best specs for a computer. I9 13900K, RTX 4080 Gaming X Trio, MEG Z790 Ace, DDR5 Kingston 64GB 6000 speed 4 DIMM, Crucial P4 1TB, 2TB x2 NVMe, Artic Liquid Freezer ii 420 AIO, Seasonic Prime PX 1600 watt ATX 3.0, Phanteks NV9, 11 Phanteks D-30 140mm fans. This is what my computer will be once I’m finished buying the rest of the parts I need. Case, Fans, PSU, AIO is the remaining parts I need. I’m purposely taking my time to acquire the parts. I knew this computer was going to take me 6 months to finish between saving up $$$ for each component, and extensive research on making sure parts are compatible and knowing wtf to do in the first place. Lmao.
Nice I went with my first full tower all white build with the phanteks nv7, gigabyte aero oc 4090, 7800x3d, 64 gigs of ddr5 etc.
I'm in a huge dilemma rn. Which one do I go for between the 7700X and the i5-13600K? In my country the 7700X is 50$ cheaper, motherboard is also 20$ cheaper. I plan on doing video editing as a profession, so it needs to handle 4K h.264/5 as well as 10 bit footage. I will pair it with a RX 6700 XT for gaming in 1080p and later upgrade to 1440p. So is the 13600K worth paying 80$ more? Or do I save the 70$ by going for the 7700X and get the RX 6800 since it's 65$ more than the RX 6700 XT?
What are your thoughts on the 7500f if roughly 12.5% cheaper? It is currently 175 Euros in Germany, compared to the 7600 for 200.
In reality, it's worth it because it's always something gained to invest in the graphics card. The performance difference between the two CPUs is not noticeable.
depends what game you play, if you do mixed usage or you're planning to repurpose/resell that setup later.
Im using 7500f on little oc currently, so its same as 7600...
Im planning buying zen5 x3d next year so for me going lowest as possible was good option
I upgraded from 8700k to 7800x3D. My first AMD processor and the performance uplift was insane.
I feel a great deal of schadenfreude against Intel because I remember how they fked us when they were way ahead of AMD.
I did the same upgrade few days ago! Totally agree with you.
a dumb statement..resolution is the key feature ,,you didnt state it
Let’s hope AMD doesn’t do the same thing while they’re ahead
i just finished building a new SFF computer with the CM NR200P. I used the Ryzen 5 7600. Runs cool and i can show off my build with the TG panel. I'm cooling with a Thermalright Assassin KING mini and i am very happy with my choice.
Made myself an SFF PC using a Xproto case running a Ryzen 5 7600 and RTX 4070Ti.
I'm just using the stock cooler, works fine XD
I got the 12900KS on Cyber Monday, upgrading from an i7 4790K
Got a 14700KF for a very good price, 50E more expensive than a 12700K in my country so I couldn’t have made a better deal.
Temps are great, lower than on my old 5700X with PBO (in games and daily use) Cinebench does a 90C on a 240AIO with a score of 36.400.
Overall much cooler to tame than originally thought based on all the youtube reviews.
What’s your ambient room temperature, if you don’t mind me asking?🤔
@@OPGamified usually 22C when I start my PC and slowly rises to a 24C. Lowest i have seen was a 21.5C. Temps in games is great. Even when I do normal stuff when I download stuff etc is usually 20-30W and 40ishC on the CPU.
I built a reliable music production PC and for that i have to avoid any AIO, that's why i have an i7-12700K.
7800X3D - best processor for gaming today?
Yes
Yep !
Yes. Opt for 7950x3d to get productivity performance back (while keeping 99% of the gaming performance) if you need it.
Could you guys cover or talk about best laptops of 2023?
Would be really good to hear your views about gaming laptops.
Love my 7800x3d and 7950x3d systems i went all amd on the cpu side a couple generations back and I’ve been very happy but i still think the intels cpu’s are fine just like the efficiency and longevity of the socket on amd. The last desktop intel part i bought was a 9900ks but i just recently bought a laptop with a 13900hx and its a beast of a mobile chip.
just upgraded from a 3600 to 5700x and there's QUITE a difference in terms of gaming. the 3600 is a little beast, but the micro stutters and lags (especially in cut scenes) were pretty noticeable! 5700x smoothed things out really nicely ❤
I'm currently in the same situation with my 3600x, that 5700 sure looks mighty appealing. Just not sure if this entry level Msi b350 gaming mb is going to be able to do it justice, only one way to find out I suppose.
@@Mercstar that board looks like a simple 4 phase vrm. And the 5700x is a low power part, you should be good.
@@MercstarI went from a r5 1600 to a 5700x on the MSI B350m Mortar. Those boards were good enough compared to some. No issues, works great
Just picked up a 5800X3D - it is noticeably faster (and warmer) than my 3900X - a great upgrade to push AM4 another couple years (or more) for me.
Hard to believe it's warmer. They consume 80w at most. And a 3900x is the worst binned parts, as seen by the 16 cores drawing less power with more cores. Might wanna check your cooler
@@tuckerhiggins4336The heat has to get through the X3D silicon layer, so it is hotter, even with relatively low power consumption.
As someone that bought an AMD Ryzen 5 5600X when the price had dropped down to $156.00 US, I am insanely happy with it, after I was insanely happy with how far the Ryzen 5 1600X got me on the exact same motherboard and 16GB of RAM. Yes, technically I am holding my 5600X back on a B450M motherboard considering it is limited to PCI-E Gen. 3, but my RTX 2080 Super is PCI-E Gen. 3 so it is fine. I am hoping to keep with what I have for at least a few more years, had the 1600X and a GTX 1070 from 2019 when I bought those parts lightly used, and would likely be using them still if I had not gotten my hands on the RTX 2080 Super in exchange for some mechanic work I did, and sold my 1600X and GTX 1070 to a friend to buy my 5600X to go with the RTX 2080 Super. He got a truly massive upgrade to his gaming PC as he went from an AMD Phenom II 1075T with 8GB of RAM, and its only ever upgrade since 2010, an AMD RX 480 8GB, to the Ryzen 5 1600X and GTX 1070 on a brand new AsRock B450M motherboard with 32GB of RAM.
No suggestions for HEDT ?
I'm looking for used epyc CPU to make Cloud + NAS server. I'm getting 4TB PCIe3 NVME drives for cheap in clearance sale, so lots of PCIe lanes required.
Best decision I ever made was going from a Ryzen 5 3600x to a Ryzen 7 5800x3D on a B550 motherboard. Now I won't have to upgrade to AM5 and can wait until the platform matures. 😉
Great! And what GPU do you have? And what monitor? 360Hz?
@@JackJohnson-br4qr Gonna be disappointed with my answer. A RTX 3060 12Gb and a LG 4K TV 😂
@@JohnThunder ...Tell me one thing (honestly), in your favorite games and having the RTX 3060-12GB for now, how much did you gain in minimum/average/maximum fps when changing your 3600X for the 5800X3D...at 4K/60Hz.
I can understand that you will buy the 5800X due to a great offer or temptation, but when it comes to a 4K display, perhaps it would have been enough for you to buy a more powerful GPU than the RTX 3060-12GB. That is, your change would make more sense if we were talking about 144/165Hz screens and beyond....And that's thinking that you were a player who needs "thousands-fps".
The platform is already rock solid. I push my 7950X3D to red-line every single day by compiling code in the background while I game. Typically see around constant 2.5GB/s on my 2x NVMe RAID0 when compiling and gaming at the same time. CPU util at 99.9% at all time for hours and hours on end.
@@juanmassiosare9850 Well 4k is not much of a difference in frames, but I can sometimes play games at 1080p and 1440p and that really makes a difference from the older CPU.
The 5800x3D performs better overall in all tasks compared to the 3600x.
I wanted to buy a new GPU but they are very expensive. I am saving money at the moment to get maybe a RTX 4070 Super next year.
Also planning to buy a 1080p or 1440p display to have a dual display, better for live streaming and editing.
Really would have upgraded from 5800x to 5800x3d this year if the black friday sale was slightly better than just 30$ cheaper than the regular 320$ price... my reasoning is would have sold my 5800x for 170$, and would of had a solid 15% boost on avg in most games i play and 33% boost in my most active game rust based off facepunches own benchmarks.
Yeah I feel like the price of the 5800X3D is just a little too high for people on Zen 2 and up at this point. You can sell the AM4 setup as an upgrade kit and be on AM5 for the price of a 5800X3D.
Don't think you would've been bale to sell the 5800x for 170$ used, since it can be found for a few $ more brand new with warranty.
In my region there is AMD 7500F available that is around 20% cheaper for missing 100 MHz and iGPU. Would going with it not be better than 7600? Ofc that is only if we consider that we want to game, and we won't use integrated graphics for it.
I had Evga x299 FTWk and i7 7820x, I've been running it on 4.5 GHz in quad channel. I have sold it for 315 $ and purchased am MSI B650 wifi, R5 7500f and 32 gb of Corsair DDR5 Ram for 390 $. The performance in games is significantly higher and if I am able to properly sell my old ddr4 memory - the upgrade will cost me almost nothing. What do you guys think of the trade and the upgrade?
Love your videos guys and this one is on point, but I really don't get you always pick the F SKUs over the standard ones, iGPU can be so useful during the lifespan of a pc and where the cpu will end up in the future.
P.s. I know what they said at the end of the video, but that was about the i9, I simply think that an iGPU can be worth it from the i5 range and up
iGPU is useless for gaming, no point in spending more
He literally said "In my opinion you should spend the extra to get the K" 18:23 What are you waffling about m8????
@@kurtgodel100legit9iGPUs are not for gaming. It's great to have an iGPU for emergencies when there are issues with the GPU, and when the CPU has aged to the point where you want to upgrade. Then you'll be able to move the old CPU with the iGPU to a newly build server, media server or whatever without having to use a dedicated GPU. Or of you just want to build a cheap workstation. It's as easy as that 🙄
@@LordManhattanFair point, but why not just buy a cheapo GPU all those years later? E.g. I just bought a 14700KF last month, I expect that it will take at least 5-6 years before I even consider upgrading. At that point a cheap GPU will be way faster than the outdated iGPU of the CPU right?
You could even use just remote desktop for certain usecases but I'm not experienced enough with that
@@fVNzO Don't be fooled, Steve said that AT THE END only talking about the highest category, not the whole line-up.
Talking about the futureproofing of AM5, the value of getting DDR5 but neglecting a tiny extra on Intel for repurposing/mixed usage is quite a weird take. Especially when the iGPU on Ryzen 7000 series was a praised addition and the entry level GPUs are so overpriced nowadays.
love the video, also love how Amd doing right now with every price range.
the video dropped 8 minutes ago, and is 21 minutes long. you havent watched the video.
no 4 core under $100.00 is killing them.
@@djmccullough9233 i watch everything on youtube at 2x speed or faster.
@5:32 you state the Ryzen 7 5700x is $160, but on the graph it stated it was $170, then at 6:43 it's stated it's $170, so which is it? from I'ma so confused.
Why did you show the 5950x in the video alongside the 12900k at 13:20
but then did not mention the 5950x? Was it there only for show? would that cpu not be on your list for people that already have AM4? Thanks
That was reused footage
This channel is BIASED ! It sucks !
I have commented about that thing too ! I'm a proud owner of the 5950X and IT SHINES ! With a 4 dimm × 32GB = 128GB at 3600MHz 16-19-19-19-39 configuration AND IT FLIES !!!
I built 2 PCs this year, one for my lil brother and another for me. I preferred i3-12100F and i5-12400F, glad they made the list :)
Purchased the 7800x3d on the day it released and I am so glad I did.
I love my 7950x3d. First amd build in over 20 years of building computers.
Isn’t there some issues with windows using the wrong cores for gaming? I’m a noob and looking to buy a top end CPU, but I don’t know what to pick.
@@danijelb.3384 I play at 1440p on high settings with my 4070. For me it's more of a GPU bottleneck so I don't concern with the wrong cores
Picked up a ryzen 5 7500F for $239 AUD shipped from Aliexpress. Paired with the ASRock B650 you mentioned which I picked up from MSY for a $150 AUD and 32GB of DDR5 also from MSY for $100 AUD- it's an effective budget platform for less than $500 AUD
Got the 14900k on release day, paired it with 8000mhz DDR5, couldn't be happier!!! Performance upgrade from the 9700k is unbelievable😮😮😮
I bought a 7700 non x version
That cost me 290 bucks and I'm using the stock cooler
With a little bit of undervolt and tweaking I'm getting 7700X performance and boosting to 5.5 gigahertz
Best choice...i bought the same few days ago.
What is the maximum temperature you are getting in gaming and in some cpu based works.
@@ShubhsGamingHub my GPU is Rx 580
So cpu won't even care in games
But it reaches up to 80 in Balder's gate 3
And it's 95 in full all core loads
@@ShubhsGamingHub my undervolt offset is -35 all core
How is yours
@@arya_amgThanks mate, I do 3d rendering so I think I have to go with an aftermarket cpu cooler.
What about the 7800X3d paired with a 7800xt? I heard it’s kinda overkill(I play mostly fps but I enjoy sometimes other games like MMOs).
What if I want stream/record on the same pc? Would bring that cpu more to use along the gpu ?
I've had a 5700x for just over a year, maybe in the future the AM4 will last a few more years with the X3D's for a upgrade or probably the current new platform always ends up taking its place?
I personally saved up a bit on the 7600X instead of 7700X or 13600K to get the 7800X3D down in the future
Most likely the future 9800X3D will be compatible with the same board, and it’s probably not so long away that that should be what you look forward to
There will be a 8800X3D already next year. That will either push down the price of the 7800X3D or provide you with a better option.
I dont think 7700x is to consider buying, before you check your market. Here in EU 7800x3D is going roughly at 10% more, when its delivers 20-30% more gaming power.
If you got enough money to buy 7700X, 10% more at cpu when getting 30% more performance is a good trade imo.
Yep. Here in Europe, with vta, it's another world. Specially in France.
the 7700 is about 270EUR and 100EUR cheaper then the 7800x3d. Quite a good deal in my opinion.
@@Tradefy In the video he was talking about 7700x, so thats why I was using it for comparison.
In my country biggest IT retailer has 7700x for 8690czk (356eur) compared to 7800x3d for 9390 (384eur). Thats only 30eur (10%) price diff.
If we use 7700 compared to 7800x3d its 8390czk (342eur) vs 9390czk (384eur). Thats still only 40 eur diff for so much bigger gains.
Thats why I said to check your market.
Micro Center has some amazing deals. I got their 7700x bundle earlier this year and I'm loving it so much. The CPU, plus a motherboard and 32 GB of ram for $400 is an amazing deal.
Ikr. I might have to make a trip to one of those if they have good deals for Zen 5
there was a brief sale on 7700x cpu of $280 usd on amazon at cyber monday couple weeks ago. hope they do it again on christmas for people didn't pick up.
Bro no love for the Celeron wtf
UserBenchmark right now: 🤬😡😭💩☠️
The music track that plays in between segments is pretty good.
I'm in doubt about the motherboard for the AM5, I don't know whether to get an Asus motherboard (news about the problems with their boards made me afraid) or another brand and which model, for at least 4 years
Jumping from 3700x to 7800x3d blew my mind.
I have a 5800x3d with a 7900xtx. Really been debating the 7800x3d i game at 4k
That sounds great! Do you play competitive game mostly? What monitor do you have? 360Hz?
When gaming at 4k, aren't you gpu limited anyway?
I'm asking myself the same question but I've got a 3700x and wondering if I should get the 5800x3D to pair with my 6800xt
I've just swapped out my 5800x3d for a 7800x3d. I game at 4k too, definitely an improvement and runs much cooler
@@JackJohnson-br4qr i game on a LG C1 OLED 120hz 55inch TV
@@edwinwelch1946 Hey, I have exactly the same TV! 😎What games do you play? I mean, I have a 12400F and never exceeding 120 FPS for obvious reasons and I play at 4K too and never been CPU limited. Except one game The Last of Us: Part 1. But it's so CPU heavy or messed up I should say that even a 5800X3D wouldn't be enough for 120 FPS.
The Ryzen 7600 is $180 at micro center. Considering it comes with a solid cpu cooler, this is a really good budget option.
Is something like the 7800x3d good if you stream and game or is the 13900/14900k better?