41001 Paxman Valenta S508 putting on a show

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  • Опубліковано 18 лют 2016
  • The engine room of Prototype HST Powercar 41001 is the setting for this video and it sees Paxman Valenta Power Unit S508 working away whilst in service at Great Central Railway (Nottingham). More details of 41001 can be found at www.125group.org.uk

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  • @fatwalletboy2
    @fatwalletboy2 Рік тому +23

    You canonly imagine how hard these engines had to work every single day.......the forces at play and the heat cycles....mind bending tbh.

  • @billythomas1135
    @billythomas1135 7 років тому +68

    My right ear really enjoyed this

  • @Timbutong
    @Timbutong 4 роки тому +26

    I'm gonna miss this Valenta sound forever

  • @francissamuel8141
    @francissamuel8141 4 роки тому +20

    Imagine standing between two 16V RP 200s at 1200 rpm. I so enjoyed working on these engines.

  • @robgingervikingjohnson7031
    @robgingervikingjohnson7031 9 місяців тому +4

    Brings back so many memories listing to that and I used to covered my eyes as kid on stations 😂

  • @keystonedriving8180
    @keystonedriving8180 Місяць тому +1

    For me the ultimate place to experience Valentas was Bristol Parkway, up road. Two notches to get the train moving, then give it the lot. Took off like a scalded cat with the turbocharger heading for the stratosphere! So impressive. The MTUs are more efficient, but there's no drama.

  • @ptoman4249
    @ptoman4249 8 років тому +55

    I have bed tested around 50 of these Engines At Paxman Colchester, A true Workhorse, Unfortunately BR would Run them on idle for ages to heat up the carriages etc, especially at Edinburgh station,, this Carboned up the exhaust ports so when the engine was loaded the gas was restricted causing overheating problems, Whilst the engine may sound slightly rough,, it, as with most engines, was designed to run at 3/4 load or power, The sound of the Turbo gaining speed is even better without the air filters fitted, we only used a metal gauze when being run in from new, believe me!

    • @formidable38
      @formidable38 7 років тому +6

      I remember visiting one of the open days at Derby works during the early 80's. At the time they had one of these on test at full power in one of the test rooms. The induction roar outside the building from the air intake was phenomenal! I still remember the sound nearly 35 years later .

    • @SansPareil
      @SansPareil 6 років тому +2

      I remember seeing valenta units going through the motions on a load bank at crewe open day once, impressive!

    • @ACERASPIRE1
      @ACERASPIRE1 5 років тому +2

      DIDnt think it would be your fault! :D

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 3 роки тому +1

      That's a design fault not British rails fault. The engine could not cope with being idled at a station then opened up and then back to idle again and again. It could not cope with the change in temperature, marine applications where set rpms were held for hours it could. It was not suited to the job. Any engine should be able to idle then accelerate, that's what engines do. Oh and by the way carbon will not build up in the exhaust ports on idle. Perhaps it was people like you who do not have a clue maintaining them that messed them up?

    • @ianwalters11
      @ianwalters11 3 роки тому

      I envy you being able to test these magnificent engines. Shame the MTU 16V R41 does not have the “drama” but I’ve gotten used to their low rumble. I’m curious, how do you think the MTU compares with the Valenta. Bring a much newer engine, do you think they will have such long lives in hours run? I would imagine the MTU is much fussier with service requirements. I’ve also read people say the VP185 is a superior engine to the MTU and in the original testing a 185 would be sent back for service after how ever many thousands of miles in operation and there would be hardly any wear at all on the head/cams. I hear some fitters initial inexperience with them gave a bad reliability reputation at the start but this was all wrong and once they got used to them these have proved very reliable. They seem great in the East Midlands HST’s. I also hear problems with availability of parts/service when MAN initially took over put off the TOC’s who plumped for the MTU instead. So I’m curious..is the VP better than the MTU in your opinion?

  • @andypreston1524
    @andypreston1524 8 років тому +10

    What a lovely sounding engine.

  • @jackking5567
    @jackking5567 2 роки тому +3

    So many memories of these hauling me back and forth from Newcastle to London weekly. Gunning down the ECML watching fields flash by. I just wish I'd been sat next to the engine the whole journey!

  • @adamg8814
    @adamg8814 8 років тому +27

    Having living close to the ECML, I really miss the excitement of hearing a screaming Valenta. I was gutted when they were replaced with MTUs.

    • @Spudchucker92
      @Spudchucker92 3 роки тому +10

      Adam G Tell me about it. Many happy memories of these screaming past Hatfield when I was a kid.
      I'll never forget one time I was in my garden, and the train tracks from my house were about 800 yards away. It was a summer day and ideal conditions, barely any wind but just the slightest breeze from the south. Well, a Valenta HST went past going south. Not a big deal normally. Except this time that scream carried on the wind for absolutely ages. A good minute or so you could hear it howling away in the distance. Remember just standing listening wondering how long it'd go on for. Amazing.
      The HST lost a bit of its soul when they retired the Valenta. Nothing will ever come close to beating that sound.

    • @tosspot1305
      @tosspot1305 2 роки тому +3

      Same, I lived in Bath and they made a fabulous noise as they exited the tunnel from Sydney Gardens. That scream is very nostalgic

    • @Martindyna
      @Martindyna Місяць тому

      @@Spudchucker92 The VP185 installation in the XPT has a nice exhaust note (unlike in the Class 43) but no Valenta scream. Take a look at `XPT at Wauchope'

  • @tonywilson4704
    @tonywilson4704 8 років тому +8

    what a cracking noise that Valenta makes!!!!

  • @Sephy69
    @Sephy69 13 днів тому

    Quite literally the best sounding engine to exist

  • @norbertpaxman
    @norbertpaxman 7 років тому +7

    Pure paxman heaven !

  • @tobynanson5170
    @tobynanson5170 8 років тому +5

    Lovely sound

  • @formidable38
    @formidable38 7 років тому +6

    VERY NICE!!

  • @Spudchucker92
    @Spudchucker92 3 роки тому +4

    Completely bonkers. God I miss these Valentas.

  • @DragonAntiques
    @DragonAntiques 7 років тому +5

    awesome

  • @absentmindedjunk
    @absentmindedjunk 8 місяців тому +1

    Can we have a 1 hour version please?

  • @user-xc1gw7sw9q
    @user-xc1gw7sw9q 19 днів тому

    Hst forevermore

  • @Speedster-jw7qx
    @Speedster-jw7qx 9 місяців тому +1

    GODDAM HELLFIRE

  • @markrhodes1053
    @markrhodes1053 Рік тому

    Absolutely superb

  • @ChaysVideoVault
    @ChaysVideoVault 8 років тому +1

    Fantastic scream!!

  • @cornishadz
    @cornishadz 8 років тому +1

    Cor just lovely!

  • @MrJoshiej
    @MrJoshiej 8 років тому +9

    Wow beautiful if only GWR would put a couple of Valenta Engines back in there HST Trains I do like the MTU Engines but you just can't beat the sound of that Valenta scream

  • @slendermanRblx
    @slendermanRblx 5 років тому +3

    Sounds like the valenta engine on train simulator in the AP valenta enhancement pack

    • @MrGrumpygit488
      @MrGrumpygit488 5 років тому +2

      AP used this very engine for recording

  • @Buck9672
    @Buck9672 3 роки тому +1

    Listen to the turbo's......nice

  • @stephenchecksfield3011
    @stephenchecksfield3011 8 років тому +2

    paxman rules

  • @br1dgewater
    @br1dgewater 8 років тому +15

    A sort of railway equivalent of the Rolls-Royce Merlin

  • @DakarTurbo
    @DakarTurbo 10 місяців тому

    Luv those turbos

    • @feydespiel.
      @feydespiel. 10 місяців тому

      Valentas only had 1 big ass turbo...

  • @yeeye3395
    @yeeye3395 Рік тому +3

    As someone who has asthma, I much prefer the MTU engines. Honestly, I much prefer the MTU sound too. Most likely cause I was born post MTU installation, so I grew up around them. But the valenta's (and VP185), sound great too, I like the WHOOOSH when they pass at speed!

    • @Danse_Macabre_125
      @Danse_Macabre_125 Рік тому +1

      People shit on the MTUs, however keep in mind they're the reason why HSTs haven't been retired in the 2000s.

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 8 місяців тому

      @@derektaylor2941 f*cking troll

  • @MrAlfaclass1
    @MrAlfaclass1 7 років тому +1

    holy mother...

  • @train4905
    @train4905 Рік тому

    Awsome😊

  • @bigduphusaj162
    @bigduphusaj162 Рік тому +1

    Can I have one of these for my Mayland 14ft fishing boat please? The wee boat is a scaled down Vospa MTB that both these and the Deltic came in so I feel I'm owed one.. I will reinforce my transom next week and let me know when I can expect a shot thanks

  • @animaltvi9515
    @animaltvi9515 Місяць тому

    AND SOMEBODY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEAD TO PUT A GUARDS POSITION RIGHT BEHIND THIS BET THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WAS A LOVELY NOISE.

  • @MeesterMichelM
    @MeesterMichelM 4 роки тому +1

    Dear 125group, a friend of mine and I had a discussion concerning the Paxman Valenta engine. Is the engine originally fitted with a supercharger or with a turbo-charger, concerning it's characteristic high pitched whine. It doesn't matter to me who's right, just what is true!

  • @smiffy1071
    @smiffy1071 7 років тому +4

    Hard to believe that on full power, it's still only 1500rpm!

    • @andyfowles8633
      @andyfowles8633 4 роки тому +2

      Valenta engines for BR were down rated to 2250 BHP @ 1500 RPM @ 247 BMEP (for the technically minded).
      Marine application engines ran @ 1600 RPM (303 BMEP - if I remember correctly) and had a Sprint Rating of 1750 RPM for 15 minutes (if you needed to chase someone.

    • @duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627
      @duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627 3 роки тому +4

      1500rpm makes it a high speed diesel engine, certainly not slow. It was a design requirement to keep the weight down that the engine be compact, fast, and powerful. A Valenta idles faster than most diesel engines spin at full power.

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 Рік тому

      ​@@duncanbhaltaireanraigwilso9627 big diesels, not most diesels

    • @johncarter2439
      @johncarter2439 Рік тому

      ​@@bonkeydollocks1879 it does in fact rev faster then any rail industry used engine since the dawn of using thermal engines in trains.the US counterparts for GE maximum rpm is 1050,and alco at 1150rpm, Electro-motive sits at max 950rpm.
      The valenta idles at 900rpm,it is the fastest 4 stroke cycling rail used engine that has been made

    • @bonkeydollocks1879
      @bonkeydollocks1879 Рік тому

      @@johncarter2439 I fear you misunderstand

  • @MRclassrailfanMG
    @MRclassrailfanMG Рік тому +1

    But sounds like a jet

  • @marlborodemoura1377
    @marlborodemoura1377 2 роки тому

    Qantuz hp? ?

  • @y2acjr671
    @y2acjr671 7 років тому +3

    how much litres has this engine?

  • @Grid56
    @Grid56 7 місяців тому

    Can you do another vid about 3hours long 😂

  • @Ma21L
    @Ma21L 8 років тому

    is it firing on all 12 cylinders.. as i heard its only set to fire only on 8?

    • @MrGrumpygit488
      @MrGrumpygit488 7 років тому +1

      Doesn't quite sound right so maybe it is only firing on 8

    • @FGW43037
      @FGW43037 7 років тому +1

      No, it's firing on all 12.

    • @Ma21L
      @Ma21L 7 років тому

      Ben Webber ahhh ok

  • @Bahamas-rd8le
    @Bahamas-rd8le 5 років тому +3

    Is it true it’s being withdrawn?

    • @Spudchucker92
      @Spudchucker92 3 роки тому

      Gutted. Would've given anything to see and hear the Valenta back in action again. Sadly not to be.

    • @loveparade4824
      @loveparade4824 3 роки тому

      Yes. Noise from the turbos and strictened emission standarts.

    • @Danse_Macabre_125
      @Danse_Macabre_125 8 місяців тому

      ​@loveparade4824 Those are the production Valentas and the last one was withdrawn in 2010. This is a prototype that was restored and briefly ran on preserved lines where pollution doesn't matter. One of these can't be much worse than an average kettle in terms of pollution

  • @emt43043
    @emt43043 Рік тому

    scream my pretty