Similar to an old aircraft radial engine: The individual cylinders all have a committee meeting to decide if they want to actually get up and do something. If this first stage is agreed then they have another meeting to decide who should be the first to fire, and a further meeting to decide in what order the other cylinders will join in! :P
About the same time we had a black cab driver who lived down the road and his cab looked just like that on cold winter mornings. Swear he used a tin of Easy Start to get it going every day.
@@KieranMckean I tried to replace the glow plugs but rounded the little allen bolts on the intake manifold. I put it back together and scrapped it when winter came. If it had normal hex bolts it probably would have stuck around a year or two longer.
My 79 300cd was like this before I upgraded from the new style glow plugs. All I could think about when I heard this. I remember the manual actually said to engage the starter motor until engine runs smoothly before going to the run position. As if it was a pony motor.
The old cliched sayings were... "modern diesel's are boring... you just switch them on and off they go... not like the romance and drama of a steam loco...." etc etc..... Meanwhile 50033 simply says "hold my beer..."
Actually, on a good Sub-Zero day, modern Diesels have their own version of the same thing - just doesn't take near as long...40,000 psi fuel atomizes really well and heats the cylinder much more quickly.
Lovely! Reminds me of a ship I used to work on - very much the same performance with a cold start. Several times we had people call the fire brigade thinking there was a fire.
@@martj1313 I'll spare them that agony, now I'll go & watch the grass grow now, that could be more interesting. Just kidding... I don't mind train clips but would have only used 2 mins of this footage, that's enough lol.
I always loved the choice of bright colours on these trains. So Seventies that no one notices how striking it looks ! Nearly as good as the Gulf colours in Le Mans racing team. But these can blow big smoke rings so are cooler. Awesome.
My dad if he was alive would have liked this video. He was based in a Wigan locomotive shed Springs Branch. And during his career, he trained to drive 28 differing types of locomotives. This over a 44-year career training from basics to coast-to-coast advanced locomotives.
I worked at a small sawmill in N. California. The snow would pile up, and the only thing we had was a very old road grader that took 3 dedicated people to get it started. One pulling it with a large forklift inside a large shed, one in the drivers seat, and one hanging on for dear life spraying two full cans of ether into the intake. This was after two of us crawled under it with torches to thaw out the differentials and brake drums for a half hour. Once it was running good, it was left running the entire day.
Ether starting kills an engine, it's like drug, more you use more the engine wants, it becomes addict, till it definitively don't wants to start (rinced cylinders and dead piston rings, total loss of compression, without compression a diesel engine don't start.!
@@cletusspuckler2243 yep, it cleans cylinders clean of oil. It had been done this way since the 60's, and unless someone pulled the engine apart, its still being done this way.
@@cletusspuckler2243 yep. Either good for 3 things. Quickly hearing if an engine has ignition, last resort, battery-is-dead-this-is-the-last-spin-of-the-starter-it's-gotta-start situations, and killing cylinders.
@@cletusspuckler2243 Ether can be used for bringing a dead engine to life. When it gets to the stage where ether is needed , it's not killing the engine its getting it going when nothing else will. I had an old BMC diesel in a boat that ran for years using a shot of ether to get it going. The engine was what most people would call dead anyway but I kept it going for years with a little ether. It would run fine all day once started and you could pull in at a dock, turn it off and start it easily an hour later once it was warm. Ether was one of my best friends.
Sweeeeeeeeet! I tried to recreate this on my OO layout…but all that happened is the smoke alarms went off, the spare room looked like stars in there eyes and the wife didn’t speak to me for a week!
@@digitalradiohacker Your comment betrays your ignorance; lithium ion batteries can have a power density five times as high as lead acid. Different batteries just have different preferred applications based on their strengths and weaknesses.
@@IstasPumaNevada Idiot. Lithium can't be charged at or below 0c. Next time you attempt to school an electronics engineer on electronics, make sure you've actually BEEN to school.
@@geoffers158 With preserved gear it probably usually is. The engine won't be started as often as would be ideal, and as a result, a battery bank would quickly age with this kind of use. It makes far more sense to bring an engine online with a generator instead.
You'd like to hear a wonderful deep bass sound of Soviet and Russian 2ТЭ10 series loco with 2-stroke 10Д100 engine. Also they're often show the fantastic exhaust smoke. They are Greta's strongest nightmare!😁
Block heaters are a wonderful thing. A few KW of block heaters would save a lot on battery, starter and engine wear. All that unburnt fuel is washing down the cylinder walls and diluting the engine oil until the engine runs cleanly.
Looking at how difficult it was to cold-start this thing - I'm surprised they didn't have an auxiliary hydronic block heater similar to how some work trucks/vans have an auxiliary diesel heater that's designed solely to heat up the block and coolant/heater core loops. (Something like an Eberspacher D12 or a bigger brother of that)
The Germans have had electric heaters in the cylinder blocks, to warm the cooling water jackets (and so the engines) before any attempt to start up in cold weather.
@@semenivanoff8615 if you look at the thing when it's "warmed up" and running, it's still blowing out to much pollution when the throttle is opened. I think they need to reset the injectors, they're running too rich.
I’m watching this and reminiscing about my commute from Didcot to Paddington, late 1970/1990s. The transition to HST 125 era. Wow! I never thought about how difficult it could be to start diesel locomotives. I’ve also seen a King, 6024?, whose tender was so full that if another lump of coal was put on, the lot would have gone. It was going to Bristol as a stand in for another steam locomotive that had failed. Happy days.
I know of a story which happend in (West) Germany. They ran extra Express trains from (iirc) the Ruhr erea to the coast in the holiday / vacation season. They ran 2 full sets (with added help) to the coast and one double length (now empty) back. But on one trip, the second engine broke, but they still had to run the train. So a single 01 class had to do the job (on a very thight schedule, even under normal sircumstances). They had boards which increased the coal capacity. Only adding one in height was allowed, they used two and still put a hump on it. They actually had to leave a notch in the coal to clear the overhead wires. (It was the transition era from coal to diesel/electric power)
Oh nice one. One of these mighty engines led our train from Paddington London to Plymouth Devon back in 1980. 5 yrs later it was the Intercity 125 engin. Thank you for sharing you have brought back some good memories. My dad just loved all of this. P.S have you ever witnessed one of these fireing up in a station like Paddington Absolutely 💯Amazing it was
I'm fairly certain that if HMS Glorious had 50033 Glorious starting up on her deck then Scharnhorst an Gneisenau would never have seen her. :P Absolutely mesmerizing watching her start up and a 50 in large logo, there are few things more beautiful. Thanks for the capture and upload.
@@michaelanderson7715 tell keyboads that mate my phones back on putting ' everywhere even with correction off its doing it now. Cannot believe you pulled someone up for that, you're a sad human make zero mistake about it if you're pulling someone up for that. What a pellet of a boy
Superchargers that's problem cant get engine going fast enough for superchargers to push air in, these two stroke deisel cannot suck enough air in on own to push exhaust gasses out quick enough
once it finally fired up these old diesel locos sound awesome the old girl could still do a days heavy graft up and down the country and no break a sweat it nice to see these still here
Great video, thanks to the guys/girls around the country who maintain our heritage locos, I would love to be there. When I was 16 I was offered an apprenticeship at Gateshead TMD but I turned the job down for something else, which I regret, with rose tinted spectacles on of course!!
Reminds me of when I worked at a bus yard; we came in early the first day after Christmas break and started every bus in the fleet. Generated about that much smoke.
this happens because the compression pressure of the cylinders is a bit low, and.of course, Compression pressure may be different in the cylinders the fuel need to burn at least 550 degree celsious. the air go to the cylinders very cold and at the PMS didnt go to the 550 degree. The starter need running a lot of time to reach this temperature and begin to run. the main engine have different compression pressure in his cylinders.The clag is fuel vaporizates as spray, very flammable. this generates the flames seen in the video. a little spark may ingnite the clag. with modern engines this is minimum. If this loco may have a preheater the start would be easy. the first minutes not all the cylinders run,start only with one, later with two and more cylinders work minutes later..
It isn't the ratio.That is the calculated ratio between the volumes of air at bottom dead centre and top dead centre including the combustion chamber volume in the head and piston crown. What this engine has is lowered actual compression due to worn piston rings. pistons and cylinder walls.It was common in Britain to see these things in use, warmed up, making LOTS of blue smoke from lube oli being burned due to such wear.
@@ianrutherford878 Funny, the first things I thought were: Low compression due to piston ring wear, or very rough tolerences. Then I thought a pre-heater wlould be good for the crap. Or keeping them inside the depot on winter nights. What we saw here was incompetance and disrespect for the environment in general, and for the local people's health in particular. Unfathomable why some educated leader doesn't come along, saying "Guys, guys guys, just stop right now, we can't have this. This machine needs maintenance, it's not allowed to drive". -
The wise said 'cold start diesels sre the way forward'! However to old class 52 Westerns had a preheater boiler to heat the fuel and then away they go, trouble is you have to run the preheater for a quite a while. The good old Hoovers never disappoint!! I bet those battery leads were GLOWING....
A GOOD DEMONSTRATION of Exactly WHY yard masters leave locomotives idling unused, for days at a time! I was a teenager when I first saw a locomotive shooting flames 12 or 15 feet into the air!
Better idea is to put a heating system or APU on the loco so it can be ready to go without constantly burning through fuel and pissing off the neighbors.
@@SynchronizorVideos When you live close to a freight station, you know you'll have diesel engine noises... If they hate diesel noises, pissed neighbors must move away !!
Somebody didn't want to get out of hibernation ;) I hope they fit the pre-heater soon, because she looks glorious in her new large logo livery; so very shiny and crisp - it seems a shame not to be able to see her through that gigantic cloud of clag.
Just throwing a fit cuz it didn't want to get out of bed and go to work. I'd throw the same smoke screen if I could if I thought it'd let me stay in on a cold day lol
Reminds me of being at Kings Cross when a Deltic started an express into the tunnel - I could never believe how inefficient those big diesels were allowed to be.
Diesel's in the air, everywhere i look around. Diesel's in the air, every sight and every sound. And i don't know if i'm be foolish. Don't know if i'm wise...
@@100gpdriver Because of this poor design (even for late 1960's) "BR never allowed engines to get cold..". It's alway possible to add blockheaters afterwards or upgrade.
Not much different than the EMD GP-7 I had to start on Penn Central back in 1974. The engine had been shut down on Friday and I restarted it on Sunday. Friday was 19 degrees out but Sunday was near 20 and she started with a problem but until it warmed up it was extremely slow to accelerate and load up. First long string of auto racks I pulled she warmed up and boy was I glad to have the heat. Until it warmed up it laid down a smoke screen you could hide a destroyer in.
@@PCMenten Thanks for sharing that with us! The trails behind high flying aircraft is also water vapor that freezes at that high altitude. It’s called contrails.
That is a class A soviet exhaust right there😅 love how they don't even try to dampen the sound or smoke, nice to see a little old fashion smoke and noise now that the world has gone completely mad for electric everything
@@socopoc yea it's about 90 mins drive from me. Yea its looking good for October...the ting tong government announced today anyone can come to Thailand.. I was stuck out for 7 months...had to go through the ASQ and headache of getting COE etc.. Well good luck and hope you can return soon and hassle free..
Great to see such a Outstanding class 50 collection at the svr, These powerful engines just can't reach max power for long on there restricted speed line and just 16mls, I guess they are lucky that they can access the main line at times for a open throttle, keep up the good work guys,.
Indeed. 50007 & 50049 were out on the mainline just last week. For the class 50s at 50 in 2018, there were 10 members of the class together which is also on my channel if you’re interested.
Similar to an old aircraft radial engine: The individual cylinders all have a committee meeting to decide if they want to actually get up and do something. If this first stage is agreed then they have another meeting to decide who should be the first to fire, and a further meeting to decide in what order the other cylinders will join in! :P
I love it! Perfect description of how EE engines start!
beautifully poetic for this sleepy fire breathing dragon
@@mattierenton701 Of course! :D
Hah Hahahahahahaha
should have the letters at front EUEE
That starter motor deserves a raise
Ikr I was like "I need that for my rotary car"
air starter .those engines are huge
@@marcperrett662 on a classs 55? I'd be genuinely shocked if it didn't use a start winding in the traction generator
They start them with compressed air.
@@RedTideRTS No they don't
I used to drive historic engines at a museum, and this was a really nice memory. Also weirdly calming? I think it's the rhythm. Thank you.
No no she’s good honest governor certified for emissions by Volkswagen and everything
👍😂😂😂😂😂.
This made my day dude lmaoooooo
Now I know clean air zone charges for cars are BS
Nur russische Dieselloks qualmen noch mehr.
What a stupid uneducated comment.
By the time this 50 got started, winter was almost over.
The passengers are like never mind.
Classic line 😄
Reminds me of my neighbours old Vauxhall Viva on cold mornings back in the early 70's, the only difference being the loco eventually started!
Nothing Britain ever built ran in the cold. Or the rain. Or the fog. Or hot days. They even sold Jaguar to Tata motors, of all companies!
Or an Evoy Epic. Crappiest car I’ve owned. Blew up on me on highway in Montreal.
About the same time we had a black cab driver who lived down the road and his cab looked just like that on cold winter mornings. Swear he used a tin of Easy Start to get it going every day.
I had a Marina years ago that sounded the same the only way I could start the engine was by removing the spark plugs heat them up under the grill.
Ah, the Viva. The only car you could ‘break’ into with a spoon handle.
Rudolf Diesel is my favorite composer.
Mine too I have seen all his paintings
Perfectly said 👍
@@mickd6942lmao ,,,,cheers
👌👌👌
It's 3 am and I am watching a locomotive starting
better than watching porn and a lot less damaging if the wife catches ya 🤣
@@oldfatbastad6053 porn is propably easier to explain
@@oldfatbastad6053porn's easier to explain.
😂
I've started watching at 10.30 , I think it'll be 3am when it finally starts. The tension!
I had a Mercedes 300D with 400k+ miles on it, this is basically what winter mornings sounded like.
I bet your 300D will start much early
@@KieranMckean I tried to replace the glow plugs but rounded the little allen bolts on the intake manifold. I put it back together and scrapped it when winter came. If it had normal hex bolts it probably would have stuck around a year or two longer.
My 79 300cd was like this before I upgraded from the new style glow plugs. All I could think about when I heard this.
I remember the manual actually said to engage the starter motor until engine runs smoothly before going to the run position. As if it was a pony motor.
The old cliched sayings were... "modern diesel's are boring... you just switch them on and off they go... not like the romance and drama of a steam loco...." etc etc..... Meanwhile 50033 simply says "hold my beer..."
Your hold my beer comment made me laugh
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Actually, on a good Sub-Zero day, modern Diesels have their own version of the same thing - just doesn't take near as long...40,000 psi fuel atomizes really well and heats the cylinder much more quickly.
@@joebond5012 and me
diesels, not diesel's
Meanwhile at Schiphol Airport Amsterdam, extremely low visibility is announced. 🤣
Funny to read this in Rotterdam, about an engine start in the Midlands after I've lived in Bristol, and actually had delayed flights due to fog.;))
Weather forecast: greasy, with thick diesel cover. High chance of lubrication. expect extremely low visibility, fuel base is at 2 feet.
@@paavobergmann4920 🤣
I imagine the exhaust smell is magnificent!
Mmmm carcinogens.
Lovely! Reminds me of a ship I used to work on - very much the same performance with a cold start. Several times we had people call the fire brigade thinking there was a fire.
That 50033 has some awesome starting batteries.
They got a generator inside
What I would like to see in these video's is when the starter is shut off.
@@arthurhardy yeah and I can't even ask that question now my grandad drove trains like these but not around no more
@@arthurhardy Maybe a pony motor or an air starter. Often the generator is also the starter.
And starter motor!
Very few people will appreciate the beauty of something like this.
I do.
You're not wrong there. 12 mins of my life waiting for something to happen
Needs to be scrapped! waste of time!
@@bthaxthaxton4821 I really hope you're being sarcastic
@@Pete-ou4cq diesel poetry, pure and simple.
always nice to hear a diesel clearing it's throat before singing
Definitely. Nice to get the passes as well.
Sounds like that one has C.O.P.D.
Started on World Environment Day
This should be done every year but bring out all the old steam engines and deltics. blow them out for a few hours just to piss off the Lefties.
I bet Greta was watching, secretly enjoying it.
@@AnonyMous-gt8vq I bet Greta doesn't have any opinions of her own, and just does what her psycho parents tells her :-P
@@RegulareoldNorseBoy Yep 😁
@@RegulareoldNorseBoy True😁...
God I love that. British engineering coming to life!!!!!
You can leave school and start a career starting this and retire when it fires up.
Haha, best comment ever!
So why'd you drop out of school billy?
I wanted to be a train starter.
lol.....I took your advice & did what you said...& it's true ! . hehe
@@PaulLea And you can take another 40 years boring your grandchildren with the story about it.
@@martj1313 I'll spare them that agony, now I'll go & watch the grass grow now, that could be more interesting. Just kidding... I don't mind train clips but would have only used 2 mins of this footage, that's enough lol.
I always loved the choice of bright colours on these trains. So Seventies that no one notices how striking it looks ! Nearly as good as the Gulf colours in Le Mans racing team. But these can blow big smoke rings so are cooler. Awesome.
The fronts are painted yellow so you can see them in the distance
Por que la máquina de tren 5O O33, tardó tanto tiempo en tomar una marcha normal como para trabajar a régimen normal ???
Gracias...
4:46 look at that flame!
My dad if he was alive would have liked this video. He was based in a Wigan locomotive shed Springs Branch. And during his career, he trained to drive 28 differing types of locomotives. This over a 44-year career training from basics to coast-to-coast advanced locomotives.
Coast to coast?
Is that the one at Springview?
Glorious by name...glorious by nature.
Pops more smoke rings than Gandalf.
Literally
1 of the best Cold starts of all time 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍
I worked at a small sawmill in N. California. The snow would pile up, and the only thing we had was a very old road grader that took 3 dedicated people to get it started. One pulling it with a large forklift inside a large shed, one in the drivers seat, and one hanging on for dear life spraying two full cans of ether into the intake. This was after two of us crawled under it with torches to thaw out the differentials and brake drums for a half hour. Once it was running good, it was left running the entire day.
Ether starting kills an engine, it's like drug, more you use more the engine wants, it becomes addict, till it definitively don't wants to start (rinced cylinders and dead piston rings, total loss of compression, without compression a diesel engine don't start.!
@@cletusspuckler2243 yep, it cleans cylinders clean of oil. It had been done this way since the 60's, and unless someone pulled the engine apart, its still being done this way.
@@cletusspuckler2243 yep. Either good for 3 things. Quickly hearing if an engine has ignition, last resort, battery-is-dead-this-is-the-last-spin-of-the-starter-it's-gotta-start situations, and killing cylinders.
@@cletusspuckler2243 Ether can be used for bringing a dead engine to life. When it gets to the stage where ether is needed , it's not killing the engine its getting it going when nothing else will. I had an old BMC diesel in a boat that ran for years using a shot of ether to get it going. The engine was what most people would call dead anyway but I kept it going for years with a little ether.
It would run fine all day once started and you could pull in at a dock, turn it off and start it easily an hour later once it was warm. Ether was one of my best friends.
I'd say this was a Diesel loco doing an impression of a steam engine!!!
It's an LGBTQRST locomotive ROFL
nope thats just its cloaking device hiding it from view
It smoked out the whole country
Yeah I thought that....
She is a regular smoker.
Global warmer, right there! Exhaust cleaned up well, once the engine had reached operating temperature.
Net zero😂
You're all conned by the term global warming. The world is actually getting colder. Do some research.
Who else can just smell that heavy damp smoke right now eh......????
How gorgeous..... 👍👍👍👍
I can!!!
I just love the smell of diesel smoke on a cold morning!
I'm glad we have a different understanding of a "cold" startup here in Scandinavia...
Oh what a randy scandy
Sweeeeeeeeet! I tried to recreate this on my OO layout…but all that happened is the smoke alarms went off, the spare room looked like stars in there eyes and the wife didn’t speak to me for a week!
Bad wife 😆😇
@@goranschmidt3543 Lol, you had a week of peace then!!!
😆
Worth it 100%
Never would I imagine that watching a train start would have me PINNED TO THE SCREEN! Them batteries!
Lead acid POWER. Non of that lithium rubbish.
@@digitalradiohacker Your comment betrays your ignorance; lithium ion batteries can have a power density five times as high as lead acid.
Different batteries just have different preferred applications based on their strengths and weaknesses.
Isn't it started via a generator not batteries.
@@IstasPumaNevada
Idiot. Lithium can't be charged at or below 0c.
Next time you attempt to school an electronics engineer on electronics, make sure you've actually BEEN to school.
@@geoffers158
With preserved gear it probably usually is. The engine won't be started as often as would be ideal, and as a result, a battery bank would quickly age with this kind of use.
It makes far more sense to bring an engine online with a generator instead.
Cold start indeed! Somewhere there's a switch for a set of block-heaters and glow-plugs that never gets switched on.
Users must reed the locomotive owner's manual 😂
Now I totally understand why diesel and CO2 are a problem.
I don’t know why but this is music to my ears.
You'd like to hear a wonderful deep bass sound of Soviet and Russian 2ТЭ10 series loco with 2-stroke 10Д100 engine. Also they're often show the fantastic exhaust smoke. They are Greta's strongest nightmare!😁
Diesel Band techno music ! 😂
This is the cool thing about UA-cam, had never considered that watching a train cold start might be interesting, dedicated camera work
This 50 should be called "Stoner" than "Glorious" Smoke, Sound and Flames are dope!
The EE 16 cylinder makes a unique sound .it’s a different sound to v12s in the 37s. Love the turbo whistle as well.
This is the comment I was looking for, trying to find out what monster it's was, 16 cylinder wow thankyou 👍🏼
Block heaters are a wonderful thing. A few KW of block heaters would save a lot on battery, starter and engine wear. All that unburnt fuel is washing down the cylinder walls and diluting the engine oil until the engine runs cleanly.
I was thinking,a can or two of easy start might have been a help.
I hope our marriage is as strong as that starter is....
6:22 .........."Bugger it, I'll walk....."
*sees a 13 minute cold start video* “what in the hell is even that?”
Looking at how difficult it was to cold-start this thing - I'm surprised they didn't have an auxiliary hydronic block heater similar to how some work trucks/vans have an auxiliary diesel heater that's designed solely to heat up the block and coolant/heater core loops. (Something like an Eberspacher D12 or a bigger brother of that)
That is a sensible idea which us British never accept
It is not that cold to have such hard start. Must be some problems with fuel or pumps or all together.
The Germans have had electric heaters in the cylinder blocks, to warm the cooling water jackets (and so the engines) before any attempt to start up in cold weather.
@@semenivanoff8615 if you look at the thing when it's "warmed up" and running, it's still blowing out to much pollution when the throttle is opened. I think they need to reset the injectors, they're running too rich.
Now, what fun would that be lol
I’m watching this and reminiscing about my commute from Didcot to Paddington, late 1970/1990s. The transition to HST 125 era. Wow! I never thought about how difficult it could be to start diesel locomotives. I’ve also seen a King, 6024?, whose tender was so full that if another lump of coal was put on, the lot would have gone. It was going to Bristol as a stand in for another steam locomotive that had failed. Happy days.
I know of a story which happend in (West) Germany. They ran extra Express trains from (iirc) the Ruhr erea to the coast in the holiday / vacation season. They ran 2 full sets (with added help) to the coast and one double length (now empty) back. But on one trip, the second engine broke, but they still had to run the train. So a single 01 class had to do the job (on a very thight schedule, even under normal sircumstances). They had boards which increased the coal capacity. Only adding one in height was allowed, they used two and still put a hump on it. They actually had to leave a notch in the coal to clear the overhead wires. (It was the transition era from coal to diesel/electric power)
They still run em on the cross country line from oxford to coventry.
Wonderful! Sounded just like a steam engine at times. I'm starting to see what the diesel enthusiasts see in these dirty, noisy things!
Starting to see ? It's awesome
The train that passed at the end goes up to blackdown where I live
Transportation. They see transportation. Not worse than electric trains..m powered by coal generators
Gas turbine engine
@@dickieblench5001 yapologist
I love the sound of diesel engines starting up and running at full speed ❤❤❤❤❤
That engine is making some good smoke rings that’s cool.
Oh nice one.
One of these mighty engines led our train from Paddington London to Plymouth Devon back in 1980.
5 yrs later it was the Intercity 125 engin.
Thank you for sharing you have brought back some good memories.
My dad just loved all of this.
P.S have you ever witnessed one of these fireing up in a station like Paddington
Absolutely 💯Amazing it was
That is a soundtrack I will never get bored of hearing! I do love the sound of the deltics, raw power with a turbo whistle, perfect!
Great sound Michael but not a Deltic.
@@rogerturner5504 No it is a Hoover a very angry Hoover.
Love watching English Electric cold starts. Never gets old!
I'm fairly certain that if HMS Glorious had 50033 Glorious starting up on her deck then Scharnhorst an Gneisenau would never have seen her. :P Absolutely mesmerizing watching her start up and a 50 in large logo, there are few things more beautiful. Thanks for the capture and upload.
Best smokescreen generator in the RN
Looks like a mini environmental disaster to me. Isn’t about time we left these things behind.
Almost as long as it takes to get me going! Great stuff!
This reminds me of my ex waking up in the morning, eventually started late afternoon.
Are you sure your not over him?
Those turbo's whistling, better than any band alive
turbos, not turbo's
@@michaelanderson7715 Ok Dad 🤣
@@michaelanderson7715 tell keyboads that mate my phones back on putting ' everywhere even with correction off its doing it now. Cannot believe you pulled someone up for that, you're a sad human make zero mistake about it if you're pulling someone up for that. What a pellet of a boy
They are superchargers whistling
Superchargers that's problem cant get engine going fast enough for superchargers to push air in, these two stroke deisel cannot suck enough air in on own to push exhaust gasses out quick enough
once it finally fired up these old diesel locos sound awesome the old girl could still do a days heavy graft up and down the country and no break a sweat it nice to see these still here
warning to all trains passing Kiderminster, low visibility past the class 50 just waking up.
great catch tho nice to watch
Don’t know why, but what an awesome sound that is. One would stop and sit idle outside my flat. That sound puts me to sleep. Nice video 👍
She is absolutely lovely. You can see your face in that paint job. A thing of great beauty and pride.
Great video, thanks to the guys/girls around the country who maintain our heritage locos, I would love to be there. When I was 16 I was offered an apprenticeship at Gateshead TMD but I turned the job down for something else, which I regret, with rose tinted spectacles on of course!!
not "started" but rather "awakened"
Come back to this
One of my favourite UA-cam clips❤
Takes me back to 1975 and the Hastings DEMU's erupting out of the Bopeep tunnel into St. Leonard's Warrior Square station.
Reminds me of when I worked at a bus yard; we came in early the first day after Christmas break and started every bus in the fleet. Generated about that much smoke.
For those of you who have said that there’s no flames, go to 4:49 of the video
this happens because the compression pressure of the cylinders is a bit low, and.of course, Compression pressure may be different in the cylinders the fuel need to burn at least 550 degree celsious. the air go to the cylinders very cold and at the PMS didnt go to the 550 degree. The starter need running a lot of time to reach this temperature and begin to run. the main engine have different compression pressure in his cylinders.The clag is fuel vaporizates as spray, very flammable. this generates the flames seen in the video. a little spark may ingnite the clag. with modern engines this is minimum. If this loco may have a preheater the start would be easy. the first minutes not all the cylinders run,start only with one, later with two and more cylinders work minutes later..
Compression is the "blood" of a diesel engine.!!
It isn't the ratio.That is the calculated ratio between the volumes of air at bottom dead centre and top dead centre including the combustion chamber volume in the head and piston crown.
What this engine has is lowered actual compression due to worn piston rings. pistons and cylinder walls.It was common in Britain to see these things in use, warmed up, making LOTS of blue smoke from lube oli being burned due to such wear.
@@ianrutherford878 Funny, the first things I thought were: Low compression due to piston ring wear, or very rough tolerences. Then I thought a pre-heater wlould be good for the crap. Or keeping them inside the depot on winter nights.
What we saw here was incompetance and disrespect for the environment in general, and for the local people's health in particular.
Unfathomable why some educated leader doesn't come along, saying "Guys, guys guys, just stop right now, we can't have this. This machine needs maintenance, it's not allowed to drive". -
@@MeBallermanstupid comment :-/
@@EE16SVT No, it's a mature comment from someone with clearsight.
Nearly as much smoke as the average diesel Range Rover, when it purges...
Always nice to build up oil pressure 264 seconds without combustion.
That's mechanical empathy.
Edit: Also the most adorable amount of smoke rings!
My Atkinson with 220 Cummings in the '70s winter used to fill Deptford Wharf with white smoke smoke! I still got the diesel smell with me
I love when the smoke creates like smoke circles
It’s like a living creature, slowly waking up.
The wise said 'cold start diesels sre the way forward'! However to old class 52 Westerns had a preheater boiler to heat the fuel and then away they go, trouble is you have to run the preheater for a quite a while. The good old Hoovers never disappoint!! I bet those battery leads were GLOWING....
No way look at how pristine that 50 class is..it's indeed GLORIOUS...
I know at first I thought this was a video from the 80s
I have vivid memories of the 'Hoovers' tearing through Surbiton at 80mph and accelerating up the grade towards New Malden!!!!!
A GOOD DEMONSTRATION of Exactly WHY yard masters leave locomotives idling unused, for days at a time! I was a teenager when I first saw a locomotive shooting flames 12 or 15 feet into the air!
Better idea is to put a heating system or APU on the loco so it can be ready to go without constantly burning through fuel and pissing off the neighbors.
@@SynchronizorVideos
When you live close to a freight station, you know you'll have diesel engine noises... If they hate diesel noises, pissed neighbors must move away !!
Reminds me of firing up an oil fired rayburn after the summer... only the Rayburn took 2 hours and the only noise was me shouting and cursing
Somebody didn't want to get out of hibernation ;) I hope they fit the pre-heater soon, because she looks glorious in her new large logo livery; so very shiny and crisp - it seems a shame not to be able to see her through that gigantic cloud of clag.
There's a preheater available? I didn't think that the locos had them, unless you're talking a retro-fitted modification?
Just throwing a fit cuz it didn't want to get out of bed and go to work. I'd throw the same smoke screen if I could if I thought it'd let me stay in on a cold day lol
Reminds me of being at Kings Cross when a Deltic started an express into the tunnel - I could never believe how inefficient those big diesels were allowed to be.
Guess when you are named after a warship the ability to “make smoke” is a design requirement....
I love EE cold starts. One pot at a time and hope the batteries are up to it!
Diesel's in the air, everywhere i look around.
Diesel's in the air, every sight and every sound.
And i don't know if i'm be foolish.
Don't know if i'm wise...
Interesting that during the design of these engines they thought this was a better way of starting from cold than adding block heaters
As a rule BR never allowed engines to get cold thus avoiding cold starts.
@@100gpdriver Because of this poor design (even for late 1960's) "BR never allowed engines to get cold..". It's alway possible to add blockheaters afterwards or upgrade.
I wonder what the compression ratio is?
@@100gpdriver
Good idea ! : restarting a cold engine, burns more fuel than letting it idleling all day long..
Brings back memory's starting class 37 locos during my freight driving days .
Nice sounding diesel. Love to hear the turbo whine up.
It might do its best steam locomotive impression but damn you can't beat the sound of that EE engine . Except for the Deltic
In the great cold winter of 1962-3 at Worcester Shed they would leave the Hymeks running all night to avoid this problem.
Yes it seems during global warming UK diesels where never equipped with manifold heaters.
Even at the end there that engine did not sound to good.
How good do the class engines sound ... heavenly music to my ears🎵🎶🎵🎶👂🏽👂🏽💕💕👌
Does anybody else imagine horses galloping to the sound? 😂
Bursting out of the fog....
And there off 😂😂
I can imagine horses galloping through the clouds.... Then stopping and coughing their lungs up....
And I think I recognized Charles Bronson in the driver's cab. 😲
I like all those jellyfish, escaping from the exhaust.
Nobody giving props to the MVP here, the starter.
4:47 you're welcome
Thx
Thanks😂
cheers bud
Appreciate it
Thank you Sir
Not much different than the EMD GP-7 I had to start on Penn Central back in 1974. The engine had been shut down on Friday and I restarted it on Sunday. Friday was 19 degrees out but Sunday was near 20 and she started with a problem but until it warmed up it was extremely slow to accelerate and load up.
First long string of auto racks I pulled she warmed up and boy was I glad to have the heat.
Until it warmed up it laid down a smoke screen you could hide a destroyer in.
Spent my youth on Plymouth Railway Station the sound of the Hoover is ingrained into my mind lovely.
I want one! I’d be starting it up and revving it up every day ! 😁
Just like most of us past a certain age, takes her time waking up but once she does oh boy!
I really love to see those old smoke belching diesels cranking on cold days! Really enjoy watching them snort fire and blow smoke rings!
Mostly water vapor.
@@PCMenten Thanks for sharing that with us! The trails behind high flying aircraft is also water vapor that freezes at that high altitude. It’s called contrails.
That is a class A soviet exhaust right there😅 love how they don't even try to dampen the sound or smoke, nice to see a little old fashion smoke and noise now that the world has gone completely mad for electric everything
Stick a DPF on it mate, be fine 🤫🤣❤️
Do Kwik Fit do class 37's?
Got to be the best cold start ever, the sound is awesome
Farts sound infinitely better than diesel locomotives
@@FART-REPELLENT Smells about the same too
Beautiful. Who doesn't love a good 50 Hoover 👍
Amazing. I always remember spotting Swiftsure with my late father as a lad. The sound is so reminiscent
Something satisfying about watching this beast start up.
It sure is ha....when I seen your user name I new it was thai for dirty haha
@@deltapro-5537 😂 your the first person to notice.
My family are Thai 👍
@@socopoc yea me too, I live up in Nakhon Phanom province....
It's a nice day today 😀
@@deltapro-5537 my house is in Phon Phisai if you know it, kind of in between you and Nong Khai. Stuck in the UK atm hoping to be going soon though 👍
@@socopoc yea it's about 90 mins drive from me.
Yea its looking good for October...the ting tong government announced today anyone can come to Thailand..
I was stuck out for 7 months...had to go through the ASQ and headache of getting COE etc..
Well good luck and hope you can return soon and hassle free..
Great to see such a Outstanding class 50 collection at the svr, These powerful engines just can't reach max power for long on there restricted speed line and just 16mls, I guess they are lucky that they can access the main line at times for a open throttle, keep up the good work guys,.
Indeed. 50007 & 50049 were out on the mainline just last week. For the class 50s at 50 in 2018, there were 10 members of the class together which is also on my channel if you’re interested.
When you don't wait for the glow plug light to go out...
At least you don't hear ''We will have to put it on a computer to see what's wrong with it''
Or when one or several glow plug(s) is (are) bad... Glow plugs always die in winter.