Steel Curtain Review Kennywood Massive S&S Hyper Coaster
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2019
- A look into my experience on Kennywood's latest roller coaster. I'll discuss the ride experience as well as talk about some of its pros and cons!
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I must admit, that is one of the strangest looking coasters I've seen.
Ever seen an S&S Screaming Squirrel?
Probably cause the twists and turns
Nobody:
Coaster enthusiasts: "SLIGHT RATTLE"
Too bad you got a slow ride, from what I’ve heard it’s amazing when it’s warmed up.
It really is.
It is at night in the back you are going so fast
@Quick Caliber Why would you pretend not to understand something like this?
@Trainspush Through same 75mph limit means it could go slower. Hence, 'limit'
i work the curtain and i can tell you for sure that once it’s warmed up it feels super super fast. especially in the back seat (i actually prefer the back over the front)
Any chance of you re-reviewing this ride when you get a better paced experience?
Doubt I'll re-review it, but I may do a vlog or something discussing my updated opinions. But first things first, I'd have to get back on it in order to do that, and I have no idea when I'll be back to Kennywood.
Coaster Studios please ride it in the front row. It is so much better than the back. It’s glossy smooth, the view of the park is amazing, and if you ride it later on in the day(as you said), it is an amazing coaster
I agree front row is the way to go the zero g stall has crazy whip in the front
Front row is good, but I like 6th row
Yes it does.
It's definitely a front row ride. They made some adjustments to the trains recently and I took a back row ride two days ago and the vibration was less noticeable. Still though, front row is the best place to ride. Also... "Man, that was a big hit Billy."
GO WATCH THIS GUY, HE MAKES AWESOME VIDEOS!!!
Yes he does and I love the vids
I have noticed that too. I have been on it 28 times total. It was great to meet you at Media Day
Thanks for your excellant video. Keep up great job!!!😊
The lift hill on this ride is slower than a tortoise
It's to relieve strain on the chain, if it was faster it would make the chain wear down faster
Your not wrong my freind
Kyruhz it starts off slow then speeds up then speeds up again
...And yet louder than a freight train
@Carterridescoasters There are many ways to design ARB systems, some don't have ratchets at all, others have additional systems to reduce or remove the sound of the advancing dog, the dogs can also be padded to reduce sound, and having fewer stronger ARB dogs can reduce the noise as long as the train can be held in tension or compression.
This train has 6 small ARB bogs, one on each car that are spring loaded and appear to have some nylon or pom pad to reduce noise but it is not very effective. I expect we will see improvements to the train periphery designs if they sell more similar rides.
Not at all a Steelers fan, but it’d be really cool if they had TVs in line and played some of the Steelers greatest games.
They do in the Endzone Cafe
you've gotten soo much better as a youtuber in the past year or so, much better writing, you sound more professional, and your reasoning is much better. Total package! Keep up the great work and I totally agree with you on the coaster. I got a night ride and morning ride and both felt very similar. The front was slightly better than the back though.
Thank you for your kind words!
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aj74205 😂😂
Eijanaika is taller tho
@@calebreese2311 That's the point.
S&S themselves said this was the largest coaster they've ever done. That is a direct quote from them.
Coaster Studios they probably meant overall including the size of the other elements and length
It’s funny how Taylor called the Steelers merch in the gift shop theming
The world needs more coasters like this. Offers unique elements, looks awesome and is a good display of creativity.
I agree I would’ve took this over Orion at Kings Island just because it offers so much variety to a park like that.. #sorrynotsorry
It sucks that it went down for the week right after you rode it. But I'm curious how it rides after a full day of operation. Or maybe it stays the same. That's the cool thing about coasters; they can give different rides on different days. I may check it out next year or perhaps in early fall.
Yeah it's a really good ride I'd give it an 8 or 8.5. It's my favorite in the park.
I'd give it an 8 or 8.5/10 the pacing you experienced definitely wasn't the norm because I feel like it's pacing is it's strongest asset.
@John Lorton I've been on it 74 times 🤷♂️
John Lorton yikes John why so toxic
Both of these comments are edited I don't even know any more
@@loganmckinnon6438 I edited my score from just 8 to also 8.5
@John Lorton how does it prove anything? I never uploaded anything so I just did it for fun.
I rode it very early on opening day near the back of the train and then again last weekend at night near the front. It was such a different experience.
I still had a good time on my first ride, but it definitely had some rattle and it kind of went by in a blur. The only part I remembered specifically loving being the airtime hill plus the dive loop right after it.
This past time was amazing though and I genuinely enjoyed the entire ride. My favorite part is still that little section over the lagoon, but I had so much more fun and would absolutely rate it higher after that ride than my first one. I really hope you can get back out there sometime to experience it again!
taylor we need a ravine flyer 2 review
obama alert that coaster is great. Too bad Waldameer has 4 coasters. 2 more on the junior side and 2 on the mild-intense rides. They need a new coaster. They get something new every year and I need a new coaster there to go back. It takes me 3 hours and I mainly go for Ravine Flyer 2
It's been so long, he would have to ride it again to get an accurate review and from how he sounded when he reviewed Waldameer, I don't think he's gonna go back to our dinky little park again any time soon, sadly
Hi I Bob I live 3 hours away and still haven’t ever went
obama alert omg I haven’t been on that in years!
@@brookenjonas me either but i remember it being really good
Parody line
*wait in line for 4 hours and just when your about to get on the ride it shuts down on you*
and then the obligatory sailor-level swearing with a whole bunch of funny sounds for the bleeps on the swears.
I rode it on the same day he did and I was on the last operating trains. It closed as I got off it ran a few more times but never with people on it
Those rainbow shots at the beginning... EXCELLENT!!!
Just the video to cheer up my sick day. Thanks for the review Taylor!
I went a few weeks ago after work and rode it at 7pm when it was raining all day, and it was halling. It’s positive Gs were great and it seemed to have excellent pacing.
I mean, I like my curtains cloth. But ya never know! Maybe a steel curtain would block out more light!
I understand your opinion. I rode the very first ride on Media Day. I had this exact opinion. Then I rode it continuously. By noon(if it is open) this thing can haul very well. After the banana roll this thing will keep going. Overall, if you ride it again in the front afternoon or later, it would be a 8-9 on the CS rating scale. Still like Phantom better, but Taylor, this coaster does deserve a second chance, I’ve ridden this almost 20 times since it opened(6 times on Media Day) so i know what I am saying, night ride + front row is the best.
Oh I absolutely trust your opinion- especially when you’ve done it a lot more than me. I just ran into the unfortunate timing of going when it was having severe issues. But I still stand by my statement that I think even if I had ridden it more, it wouldn’t get more than an 8 on my scale. Just my opinion though!
Yeah, I was actually one of the lucky ones who rode it opening day before it closed. It has downtime once a day at worst since it reopened. Most believe it was the loud bong noise in the sea serpent roll supports. I respect your opinion until you ride it again.
It looks like that coaster was built by the Mario Brothers.
My rides experience on SC started positively and ended positively. In the morning I rode in the back and found it pretty fun, but not intense. Then I rode multiple times over and over later in the day and it was hauling. Currently, this is the coaster that has made me grey out the most. I305 will probably take that record, but it's so fun later in the day. Front row all the way. Ops were ok, but I went on a good day and the line barely got 5 mins. It's not top 10 material, but probably top 20 for me. KEEP IN NOTE: This is my opinion and my experience. I understand that this is not everyone's cup of tea, but understand that I loved this.
I greyed out every time I rode it!
@coasterstudios when are you going to Six Flags Great America to ride and review Maxx Force?
Wut Duh it may be short but it’s very good. The launch is amazing, the zero g roll is awesome, worst part is that the breaks are on that last drop
Banana Watermelon Fish so kinda like full throttle
That rainbow shot omg
In the front, it is better than Phantom's Revenge. Hangtime is great! I don't see any problem with pacing
I agree with that. It is my favorite ride at the park
@@HockeyGUY66871 same here!
No
alex-i jackrabbit is better than Phantoms sooooo.....
Fishing Harry your finny
Height: 67 meters
Speed: 121kmph
Length: 1219 meters
I just got to ride this recently twice. 1 time during the day, one time during the night.. I loved it. And the fog helped with the excitement
A couple few points. I was there they day you were and I was also on the 1st train of the day, in the front row. The ride was running extremely slow and lacked pacing and forces. I bought a front of the line pass so I rode it 9 times before it closed in many rows. The back row is the worst row on the ride. It feels like a back massage. Second to back row is a significant difference and is much better and much smoother. The front is easily the best row once the ride warms up. My final ride was with Micah from coaster frenzy in the front row, which was right before it closed and that was when the ride was the fastest. The front had amazing hangtime on the first inversion. It had much better forces in the front when warmed up. It also had great ejector. Sorry you got only one ride on it and it was in the worst seat.
Just rode this for the first time on 8/19, front row, right after the sun set for the day. It was fantastic. Phantom is intense and fun, but SC now seems like the ride to beat at Kennywood. The pacing is great when it’s warmed up, the airtime hills catch you by surprise, and the stall over the walkway is perfect. The only downsides to this ride are the slow lift hill and the lack of an intense first drop, but the fact that the world’s tallest inversion leads into the first drop more than makes up for it. I’d give it a 9/10. I hope you can ride it again soon, and keep up the good work!!
I just rode this while visiting my home town. Interested after riding Pantheon plenty time in Busch Gardens, I was comparing the two. Feels like Steel Curtain was quick with all the transitions, where as Pantheon it takes its time. Phantom’s Revenge had always been my favorite growing up close to the park, riding that too the same visit it never fails me.
It definitely warms up though out the day. Also if possible the last train of the night you wont regret it.
If I'm going a last train of the night at Kennywood it's gonna be on Phantom. You can't beat diving into the ravine in pitch blackness.
Its really fun when its warm and been going for a hour or 2 its still somewhat prone to shutting down because of the fact that its new
you've got to try it again. i was lucky enough to have the last ride of the night and it is amazing
I was able to get a back seat ride in the morning and a second row ride on the last train of the night. Its a great coaster in the morning and is phenomenal when its warmed up.
We were there less than a week ago, and didn't get on it. Between the 8-10 minute dispatches and weather that kept shutting down the rides, we decided it was better to wait for next time as it barely ran during the time we were there. Instead, I took 4 rides on skyrocket (finally back in operation!), rode phantom's revenge and wooden coasters, probably got 8 coaster rides in all, versus spending my whole time in Steel Curtain's line waiting in the vain hope to get a ride. I don't live too far, maybe 90 minutes, so I was ok waiting for a better day to attempt it. Felt bad for you guys though when I saw the vlog!
I thought this coaster at least deserved an 8. There were definitely positive G’s and I liked the airtime moments. The fact that they could cram that in while breaking an inversion record makes this a very solid coaster
I had a similar experience, I rode it earlier in the day and was disappointed and felt that the pacing wasn’t as good as I thought it would be, but later on I rode it towards the end of the day it felt way better I was actually surprised I did not expect it to be that much better after the day went on. I sat in the same seat both times.
This thing blew away my expectations. Buttery smooth, fast paced, pure wacky. It feels so much higher that it is due to its location over the river.
When it’s running fast, it is the best ride at the park. I last rode it at midnight at Phantom Fright Nights, and it had been running all day. This ride is freaking amazing!
0:13 Taylor left the insta live stream for this
I rode this once at night and thought it was moderately intense, mostly at the 2 airtime hills which were straight up ejector. Was in 3rd row and felt no vibration. I give it a 9/10.
Love the view of the rainbow behind the ride
Taylor’s favorite part is goliaths whole coaster
Underrated comment
(I liked this comment before)
Riding front row with an inch or so of room was amazing - some great hangtime and airtime it felt forceful by the end of the day
I'll be riding it next weekend.
Plus u can’t go wrong with a tower even if it’s the same size as ur hyper or close to it I feel like it would make the park look more like a cedar point and probably add that feel to it too given the variety
I think the first inversion is the best, because of the hang time. It has better hang time in the front than the zero g stall. People say this is a forceful ride (positive Gs), but I didn’t get that. Since the half loops are so tall, they are very lose, making them not that intense. The way this ride is most forceful is with laterals.
I like the inversions, I got hang time on the dive loop
Just rode this coaster on Saturday on the first day of fright night. Ohh lord... This was well worth the price. I say price...because It cost me $36 to get in, and this was the only thing I could ride. Waited 2 hours, in the pitch black, but man it was worth it. I rode the back and I have to say, it was butter smooth. Maybe after being open for a little over a month, it's had time to break in. Riding this at night was incredibly disorienting. I had no idea when I was upside down. Such a great ride though, can't wait to go back and ride it again.
It's fast as hell and was running on all day on Sunday i was on cart 2 , u could smell the brakes burning when it pulled in after. It was running hard all day to night.
I love how you say in almost EVERY video that your opinion is your opinion, and that it is not objective. Cheers to you!
It's really kind of sad, IMO, that Steel Curtain was such a let down. I remember you got to talk with Preston from S&S about this coaster at IAPPA, and despite your skepticism of the whole Steelers theme it was high on your list of anticipated new-for-2019 coasters just because of how unique & bizarre the layout is. And then you only got one (bad early morning) ride on it because of technical issues, after having made a special trip to Kennywood just for it.
Even if it's not quite a Top 25 coaster by your standards (judging by the fact that you tend to prefer super-intense coasters with lots of ejector air), I'm pretty confident that you would've given this ride an 8 or 9 had you experienced it in the front row after the trains had the chance to warm up.
Trainspush Through I disagree. This one blew away my expectations. It’s a beast. Fast, smooth, wacky, snappy.
Amsterdamnster Kush what do you mean factual? Nobody’s opinion, including yours, is “factual.” How many rides do you actually have on it?
Camden Hochgesang I’ll tell ya right now: if you ride it more and ride it later in the day, you get to love it more.
I got a second row ride on opening day. I actually really liked it! But I do agree that my favorite part is the second half. I'm very excited to get back and ride it during phantom fright nights.
I don't know if it's because I'm a little heavier than I used to be, or just because I'm getting older, but phantom's revenge HURTS. I'm always tempted to get on it and it's fantastic until the bunny hills at the end. I've had plenty of rides with airtime like that that didn't throw me around in the seat. I think it needs some updating. I'm not sure what, but something.
When I looked this ride up on rcdb it says it has 8 inversions as it counts the banana roll as only 1. Also it says it actually has a sea serpent roll which would make the ride unique as it would be one of the only rides in the world to have this element apart from the smiler, medusa and the rock n roller coasters.
Near the end of the ride it gets pretty good positives like through the corkscrew and the cutback I really felt the intensity
Yeah if you try to put your arms back up during the drop into the midway bridge or the half helix you'll have a hard time doing so. It's unfortunate he couldn't get more rides to notice this.
Thanks for that review; I think it was very even-handed. I think this may be a "grail" coaster for me, the way Lightning Rod was for you for a year or so. I don't think I'm going to make a special trip to Kennywood just to ride it, and I had to cancel my other business trip that would have taken me nearby. But I don't like the idea of not having ridden the tallest coaster in my home state, nor the most-inversions record holder.
I’m at Kennywood Saturday praying that it’s open
Want to hear a fun little story?
I was planning on going to Kennywood on July 10th. It was part of a big coaster trip that we started to plan right after most parks have finished their 2019 announcements. They announced that steel curtains opening day was less than a week after we planned on going AFTER we had left for the trip. It other words I have just gotten an infinity falls to the face.
Wow that shot with the rainbow was so lucky!
Hopefully one day you can ride it again I really enjoyed it for sure but the only Problem with it in my opinion is that it's been down quite a bit, but what would u expect I mean S&S Coasters i down alot.
Do you know anywhere that has hot sauce at kennywood??. I’m surprised they don’t have nets but I’m sure they will be coming sometime
A 7? Are you serious? This is one of the most fun roller coasters I’ve ridden in recent years. It’s smooth, has a unique layout, the inversions are spectacular, and the whole ride in general is incredible fun. Now granted that’s because I rode this at like, 7:30 pm, but still. I’d honestly give this ride a 10!
I rode it front seat at 7pm and it was awesome.
My first ride in the very back was good. My second (and last) ride in the front row was so much better! It doesn’t have that shaky rattling feeling, and it feels a bit more speedy. I wanna ride it again:(
I also agree with your favorite part of the ride lol
Wow you’re telling me that I’ve ridden SC twice as many times as the great Taylor Bybee? Insane! Jokes aside, you forgot to mention that the Steelers announcer and color analyst are the voices of the ride in the queue, which I thought was a great touch. I love this ride for its uniqueness and I definitely agree that it’s a front row ride, sorry you didn’t get that opportunity. Also what’s your coaster count at now after Japan? Just curious.
I really liked it. It isn't super intense, but is super fun! I think that pacing is one of its strengths The lift hill starts out super slow, but it does speed up as the train climbs the lift hill. I rode in the third row and felt that the ride did have a slight rattle, but was surprisingly smooth for how much acrobatics it travels through.
I heard something about safety and that was why it wasn’t open consistently. I believe that they have fixed it now though.
Yes it run much smoother since it's downtime.
Well logan from koaster kids clearly thought it was intense he blacked out for a second lol. Great video!
I love steel curtain it’s one of my favorites
I was very disappointed my first ride. I rode 2nd to back. Then I got a front row ride on it in the rain and it blew me away. I probably give it a 9/10 in the front. But I totally agree with you that’s exactly how I felt first time I rode it
it's something they added to go with phantom 1 2 if your not to busy can you do a sfgav teaser video?.
It is my favorite ride at Kennywood.
I rode it only once as well due to long lines and early closure due to rain. I rode front seat and thought it felt fast for a looping coaster. I agree the positive forces were a bit weak but it was a comfortable and reridable experience best part is lapbars.. I would give it a commendable score of 8.75 but might be a bit lower if I rode it a few more times as the new factor wears off
I also rode it in the back and left my lap restraint only three quarters of the way down so I got some pretty nice airtime on that floater hill right before the dive loop but I still think Phantom's revenge is better
The first half of the ride is always a bit of a cruiser. But the second half can get really sweet, especially warmed up.
The whole queue looks like the concourse at Heinz Field, as far as theming goes
I’ve talked to a person who works for palace entertainment and was involved in the design process and intamin had a pitch for a layout that would have went around the lake and would have been like a 200ft maverick. But they didn’t want to make phantom obsolete so it’s obvious they didn’t want to make it overkill the phantom. And I also wish that you would go back and ride it a few more times before you genuinely review it cause riding it later in the day is the key to this ride.
Have you thought about doing a segment about re visiting rollercoaster ranking a few years later? Like doing a five year review on Steel Vengeance in five years to see if anything changed.
I got one ride, and after that I was done. They started having major problems with the locking mechanism on it..
I would rate it a 10 it is a great fun coaster the ride was designed to be intense but not to intense and the ride designer made it so there isn't so much positive G's because they wanted it to be re rideable. I also don't like the idea of greaying out on a coaster so I am glad Kw did what they did. It is a really great paced ride fast from start to finish with a top speed of 76 mph and is my new favorite in the park!
(The comment was edited because I stupidly spelled Paced wrong)
I was also pretty let down by SC this summer.
Watching the POVs and such I was pretty hyped and hopeful that it would push for my "S-tier" (currently top 5) with the likes of Steel Vengeance and I-305.
My first ride was a lot like yours: morning and in the back. It was very disappointing relative to exceptions. Great ride, but definitely not the same neighborhood as the two rides I mentioned as benchmarks. We got a second ride around dusk (saved night rides for Phantom's Revenge and Thunderbolt) in 2nd row, and it was much better, but more along the lines of a good-to-great B&M Floorless rather than a top-tier RMC or Intamin. Those big inversions in the first half just don't move the needle for me. The camel back --> dive loop --> zero-g stall sequence is excellent and whippy once it's warmed up, and there's a nice pop of air into the brakes in the front, but I still have to settle for a B+ or so.
It's still an amazing layout given the tiny footprint. I just wish it was more... intense. Whippier.
You need to come back to Pittsburgh and ride it again! Alot of the kinks have been worked out! If you ever get to Pittsburgh I got you!!
It's funny you said seven was low because part of me was expecting you to give it a five 😂 probably give it a 6 or a 6.5 myself for the same reasons you mentioned, it's kind of forceless over all except for that one section that's pretty fun. Kind of like with gatesleeper, I can see it being good for someone trying to get into bigger coasters cause it's just not super thrilling (heck, I'd take gatesleeper over it any day)
Waiting for Eejanaika...
Just wondering. What’s the difference between a rollover and a sea-serpent roll because they look exactly the same?
Its really just manufacturers calling it something different. A sea serpent also had more defined corkscrews and the rollover is more barrel roll like on the top.
Like the "Drachen Fire" dive.
This is an odd coaster. I got on it in the afternoon, and sat in the front car. It surely didn't feel like 75mph. Really dug the experience, but it felt tame. I rode it at the end of the night from the back. Yup, THAT felt up to speed. See, oddly, I noticed the vibration from the front during the first ride. Didn't notice it from the rear during the second. I do know that I rode both cars. Still trying to figure this on out. My first impression mirrors your review. My second ride was about as intense as the Phantom. I think that this is one of those coasters that grows on you after every ride.
What row did you get to ride in? What’s the difference between a rollover and sea serpent roll lol. No looping coaster is beating the intensity of kumba!
I rode in the last row.
I’ll be honest, and not just because I’m from Pittsburgh, but every single person I talked to said this was a phenomenal coaster. I work right across the river from Kennywood and I see this ride running all day every day. When this first came out, they were having operational issues for the first couple weeks or so but every day after that, the ride has been running consistently and smoothly. I was a bit worried about the lift hill speed at first so I understand what you’re saying here. Why they wouldn’t put the most torque and horsepower into the machine powering the lift chain is beyond me. I feel that’s a very Kennywood thing to do. Ever ride the Phantom’s Revenge, you get on the coaster soon after park opens and by the time you make it to the top of the hill, the park is closing. It’s terrible. Sad you only got one ride on it and I haven’t ridden it yet myself but like I said, my friends and I are all coaster junkies and from everything I’ve heard, this coaster is amazing and silk smooth. Wouldn’t be my choice for a new coaster both in style and manufacturer, but still can’t wait to ride it!
This coaster is gotta be fun !!!!😄❤👍
It really is.
Nice to see Kennywood getting better coasters like to see a b&m hyper and a dive coaster. But I feel like they’d need more land in order to be able to get better coasters
When I ride this (it was in the front), it was incredibly smooth and it felt extremely fast. Too bad you didn’t sit there because it seems like we rode two completely different rides
0:15 that looks really weird. Also, who is just rewatching all of Taylor’s coaster reviews during quarantine?
if a ride like that with so many inversions and overbanks can feel like "nothing special" that must be some amazing engineering :D
omgsolikevalleygirl It’s not about inversions, it’s about the forces you feel in an inversion. That’s also why a lot of people dislike the Smiler, because the inversions themselves are just boring.
How was the cutback, because some cutbacks tend to be jarring?
It was a little snappy (which is good IMO)
Hey Taylor! Have you ridden Maxx force yet? If so, when can we see a review of that?
I have not ridden maxx force yet. I’ll post a review after I ride it. I don’t know when I will ride it though.
Coaster Studios I really appreciate your videos of the rides themselves (amazing work) and your commentary. Keep up the great work!
The station could've been a literal steel mill.
Such a steely comment.
This was the second roller coaster I’d ever been on I waited like an hour and a half.
Have you ridden MaxxForce yet its awesome
I have not
Biggest problem is that it is very short but it is sweet
@@crazykids5582 it doesn't feel short when i rode it
Yeah it was still awesome
@@crazykids5582 yep