I honestly think this is one of the most well-rounded rides out there. Great layout, fun transitions, strong positives, whip, hangtime, and good pacing that keeps getting better the farther you get into the layout. I rode it a week after opening and it was blazing through its layout; the last turn before the ninth inversion was strong enough to induce graying-out. Throw in trains that easily compete with B&M hyper trains for comfort and you have an elite beast of a ride. At most parks this would be #1; only reason it’s not is because of Phantom
I’ve ridden this thing like 7 or 8 times now. I got a night ride on it tonight and it felt faster than usual. It was awesome. Underrated coaster if you ask me
It's interesting how the North American inversion record was set in 1988 by Shockwave and would not get surpassed for over 30 years. I really liked the pacing on Steel Curtain, none of the elements felt repetitive to me. Between S&S and Vekoma, I am thrilled to see multi-loopers making a comeback. As far as loading trains with employees for test cycles, when I worked at SFNE, we did just that on Bizarro on a cold day very early in the season the day after it valleyed on a morning test run.
@@CanobieCoaster In my instance, at least, maintenance was waiting for temperatures to reach a certain level before testing the ride, even with staff on board.
I've been everywhere on the east coast, Steel Curtain and Phantoms Revenge are 2 of the smoothest coasters I've been on. They are great for people just getting into the bigger more intense rides. Riding Millennium Force 5 minutes after CP opens (an hour after you wake up) isn't the best idea, but it wakes you up lol. Also being form Pittsburgh might make me a bit bias lol
I rode this for the 1st time today, it was 95 degrees and people said it was running as fast as it gets. Got 6 rides, 2 in front, it's a front row ride. Fantastic ride! Wasn't expecting the airtime to be so good. It's a top 10 for me, for now.
The pacing on it is so good, I love this coaster! Especially the inversions, banana rolls sea serpent rolls and cutbacks aren't that common, and of course, the drachen fire dive drop. Lol
This was a good investment for Kennywood, they already have a Hyper in Phantoms but thus is so much more unique that they had to get it. And it gave the park more inversions which they needed. This ride is probably perfect for mixing positive Gs with airtime with inversions. Plus, ad in tons of near misses and very comfortable trains and you got a fantastic ride. I wish to see S&S make more of these.
What youd *really* love to see would be 6F purchase one of these to replace the Murican 🦅 @6FGAm. This thing was a stroke of genius & Joe Draves is the future of the game; the heir to Schilke’s throne
yeah the pacing and transitions are amazing, i think its running slower when u went tho cuz the footage looks slower and when i rode it gave a bit stronger forces than what u described
Trust us, us employees don't mind we Love that ride! I Love Steel Curtain, in my personal option it is the best ride in the park! I love the whip you get on the Zero-G-Stall! The whole ride is incredible from start to finish! Also as far as I am aware the ride have been a lot more reliable sense it opened for the 2021 season!
I did ride this in 2019, and it’s in my top 20, and I did ride this in my Eagles jersey and chanted the Eagles fight song “Fly Eagles Fly” that they play at Lincoln Financial Field in South Philly, every time they score a touchdown, from the moment the train leaves the lift hill to the final brakes, and I’ve done that on quite a few amazing coasters, and also 41-33 😂.
5:56 I know what you’re saying but I really hope they can bring back filling in station like phantom’s Revenge did on steel curtain,sky rocket and thunderbolt some time soon
I rode it a few weeks back and will be riding it again on Sunday. I think Phantom's is the better ride. Phantom's is in my Top 10 and this one is in my Top 50. I thought my afternoon ride on Steel Curtain was much better than the morning one which was on the first public train. It runs much slower in the morning even on hot days. I found Steel Curtain to have one really good air time moment, and 3 of the inversions I really enjoyed. I didn't realize the ending took a minute from the break run to the station. It didn't seem that long, but the lift hill sure does.
I am not a football fan, so when I heard the name Steel Curtain, I was like, what in the world? I later rode it and enjoyed the weird ride. This coaster has the best views in Kennywood in my opinion.
Rode it for the first time yesterday and I absolutely love this! Thanks to Phantom being trimmed to death (it moved down two spots for that reason), Steel Curtain is my #2.
4:46 I know with my step mom working at Cedar Point, she tells me something very similar for Raptor. They would mainly get the custodial staff to ride instead of water dummies. She has stop working there for about 10 years so maybe it changed since but I wouldn’t be surprised if they still do that today.
Welcome to my home park. Glad you enjoyed the it. Steel Curtain is my personal favorite but Phantoms Revenge is definitely the better ride if that makes any sense. I go every Saturday and Sunday since i have a season pass.
I hope to ride it soon! That is funny your a Patriots fan. Kennywood used to be my home park back in the day, and dealing with the incredibly rowdy steelers fans as a Washington Football teamer was pretty hard.
I'm heading to Pittsburgh on the first day of July. Which is best row on Steel Curtain? I'm expecting it to be top 100 worldwide, or shouldn't I? But anyways, I just can't to ride your favorite in the state AND one of the coasters in your top 10 overall! WOOOOOOO!!!
This thing is highly underrated IMO. I think the slow ops and unreliability cause it to not get the recognition it deserves. I waited 3 hours which was frustrating but worth it as it was a hot and running super fast
There's something about Hyper Loopers that Kennywood can't seem to get it running correctly. Also, contrast Steel Curtain's chain lift with their El Loco Model. Those chain lifts run fast.
This is probably for the same reason that Gerstlauer launches accelerate so fast. Smaller trains are lighter, resulting in less force needed to accelerate the train the same amount.
I think Alan from arrow designed this ride. He is a ride engineering genius and has made some of the best rollercoasters! Alan if you see this please help out lake compounce with wildcat! Coaster has history but you can turn it into gold with your I track design!
In 2019 I got one of the first trains of the day on the front row, and only got one ride on this. I was extremely underwhelmed because it was morning, it was slow and hadn't warmed up yet. Next time I get to KW i need to ride this in its peak form, because it was very slow in the morning. It never broke down, it's just that phantom's revenge is in the same park, which is a VASTLY better coaster imo. Now that I realize it, Taylor had the same exact experience I had with curtain haha
@@CanobieCoaster dang I thought it would start to go faster. For living an hour from Kennywood I was disappointed with curtain. Out of my 67 credits, steel curtain is only my #20. It's pretty forceless in my opinion
4:08 Maxx Force at SFGAm uses these same trains yet the operators there do not perform separate seat belt and lap bar checks. Would it be a discrepancy in park policy? Also I have found these trains to be pretty forgiving when it comes to larger riders. I am a 5' 10'' 290 lb guy and I have never had an issue with Maxx Force's trains.
Not sure about the footprint dimensions, but, could you see one of these coming to six flags new england with a patriots theme to replace flashback and goliath?
I love how Steel Curtain looks, but that's all I could do with it, since last year was my only visit. I don't mind the theme, although the only NFL team I like is whoever is playing the Cowboys. I'm pretty sure that Phantom's Revenge will remain my favorite whenever I get around to riding SC.
This coaster was decent but didn’t blow me away. The inversions seemed to just keep on coming, though they weren’t as snappy nor forceful as on a B&M looper or invert. Even though I’m a Bengals fan, I could appreciate the Steelers theming and felt like it works well at Kennywood. I’m agree with you; Phantom is still #1 at the park, followed by Steel Curtain.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELLL MEEEE! Is this ride intense? Like how many times throughout the ride do you feel that horrific stomach flying in the air feeling? I have a season pass to Kennywood and this is the only coaster I haven't ridden there and I'm scared to death because of the lift hill. Someone please mentally prepare me, how intense on a scale of 1-10 is it? I love skyrocket even though it gives that horrible stomach feeling on the first hill because of how quickly you fly up the hill. My anxiety can't handle all the waiting, checking and slow lift hill that is involved with this ride. If it was a launch coaster, I'd ride it in a heartbeat. I just know I'll have an anxiety attack because of all the time that is involved with getting people strapped in and the steep and super long lift hill.
How accomodating is this? Im 6’2 170 and ive only had issues getting on one coaster out of the 202 ive ridden. but my cousin might go with me and hes roughly 6’5 but hes pretty skinny. Both of us really want to ride this and it was shut down the whole day on my last visit in august 2019
Unpopular opinion, but I like Steel Curtain better than Phantom's Revenge. This is for two main reasons. One, the cars/seats. Though Phantom's Revenge has those legendary lapbars, which I do like, the thing that has soured the experience for me my last few rides has been the size of the seat, specifically the distance from the back of my seat to the back of the seat in front of me. If I don't push my lapbar down far enough, I'll slide forward and smash my knees on the back of the seat in front of me, which can be quite painful. I can somewhat remedy this by essentially stapling myself so that I don't slide forward, or by sitting in the front of a car, but its kind of stupid that I have to take these things into account on Phantom and can't just enjoy the ride. On Steel Curtain, you don't have to worry about that at all. The seats are much more open, and are separated further between each other, making knee banging a non-issue. Two, the layout. While Phantom's Revenge definitely has Steel Curtain beat in terms of ejector airtime, there really isn't much else to the ride, with the exception of speed. Steel Curtain is a much more well-rounded coaster, and does several things Phantom's Revenge doesn't do. It has hang time, good positives, whip, several inversions, etc. It even has airtime moments, albeit less intense than Phantom's. Overall, its just the more complete package.
@@bmfanboy8838 I think the airtime moments are intense, but they aren't as sustained or intense as the ejector moments on El Toro or Skyrush. I think in order for Phantom's Revenge to be a truly elite ride, its airtime moments would need to need to be able to stand on their own, but they really don't in my opinion and it needs something else to complement them.
The color scheme looks honestly really nice when the sun is out for all 2 days we get sunny days in Pittsburgh. And alongside The Prominent Petrifying Pittsburgh Purple People eater it makes the skyline of Kennywood look really nice.
Great coaster. The only thing keeping it from bein' PHENOMENAL is that it's about 10mph too slow during sections when it DEF could've been made a tad faster.
I enjoyed this review. I'd agree that Steel Curtain isn't as Phantom's Revenge, yet it's also better than some very old wooden coasters, one of which is decent. My only other issue is that whist it reaches a height of over 200' the drop doesn't. Nothing personal: for me Steel Curtain isn't a hyper coaster, but Phantom's Revenge is (and while I may talk out of my ass re personal experience:) Phantom's Revenge has a 220' drop whereas Steel Curtain doesn't even have a 200' drop.
If it is called Steel Curtain, does that mean the supports are called ‘Curtain Rods?’ Joking aside, a new coaster had been in the works for well over a decade, with the original concept being a terrain coaster that would’ve utilized the shed at the bottom of the ravine (the plans of which can still be found online). When Steel Curtain was unveiled, it went completely out-of-bounds to what I and other former employees had expected. As for its reception, local opinion is mixed. Some still lament the Log Jammer’s removal while others embrace the coaster while-heartedly. While I tend to lean toward the latter camp, I wonder if the Log Jammer still would exist had the original design been utilized.
More parks should install rides themed to local sports franchises. I've often wondered how much SFOT could accomplish if they collaborated with the Cowboys and Jerry Jones' endless bags of money. Especially since the stadium is literally 4 blocks away.
Kennywood isn't afraid to go big. Phantom originally opened with the biggest drop. And I think Pitt Fall may have been the tallest drop tower at one point if I remember correctly.
I heard that this ride has a bit of downtime. I don't see how though. It's not like it has a lot of components compared to Top Thrill Dragster or Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure. It's basically just another coaster with a chain lift hill and breaks at the end.
🎢 I took the front 💺 seats And My Good Lord !!!😲😬😩🫣THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST FORCEFUL AND FASTEST COASTERS I’VE BEEN ON- it was Super sunny and it was going soo fast I could not catch my breath- it was non stop speed and loop twisting and turning - Its not for the faint or anything to be played with- This Coaster is the truth and nothing but-so help me God - because your gonna need it 😇🎯❤️💪🏽
But it killed the Sky Coaster :( I cannot forgive it for that. It's built too close for the sky coaster to be safely ridden, so they basically just shut it down. Hopefully it gets sold and not demolished but ughhh, it's so unfortunate. Sky coaster is my favorite thing in the park, hands down.
Weirdest support structure ever. I agree, it is kind of ugly. It almost fits a helmet facemask look. S&S does the... most random and "fuck it lets just brace it here and there and be done" look to their support structures. These inversions are really taller than Top Thrill Dragsters vertical heartline roll?
Hey I’m a Browns fan so we both agree the Steelers are the worst. Honestly I would love to do a Browns take over where Browns fans just take up the entire train and we ride!
That lift hill would kill me… an agonizing minute to the top. Builds tons of tension. That’s on purpose. But no thanks. Ride looks far more disorientating than most would probably anticipate. You’re not recovered before being assaulted with more punches to the equilibrium. I’d ride it, but only ride before I left.
He is downplaying the Racer, the Jack Rabbit, and the Thunderbolt which have been there since forever and are historic landmarks. They need to get rid of this thing and bring back the Paratroopers.
I love how odd the layout is I really want to ride this
It is unique.
I honestly think this is one of the most well-rounded rides out there. Great layout, fun transitions, strong positives, whip, hangtime, and good pacing that keeps getting better the farther you get into the layout. I rode it a week after opening and it was blazing through its layout; the last turn before the ninth inversion was strong enough to induce graying-out. Throw in trains that easily compete with B&M hyper trains for comfort and you have an elite beast of a ride. At most parks this would be #1; only reason it’s not is because of Phantom
Agreed!
I’ve ridden this thing like 7 or 8 times now. I got a night ride on it tonight and it felt faster than usual. It was awesome. Underrated coaster if you ask me
I was told I rode it on a slower day.
It's interesting how the North American inversion record was set in 1988 by Shockwave and would not get surpassed for over 30 years. I really liked the pacing on Steel Curtain, none of the elements felt repetitive to me. Between S&S and Vekoma, I am thrilled to see multi-loopers making a comeback.
As far as loading trains with employees for test cycles, when I worked at SFNE, we did just that on Bizarro on a cold day very early in the season the day after it valleyed on a morning test run.
I wouldn't have minded if they did it before the park opened.
@@CanobieCoaster In my instance, at least, maintenance was waiting for temperatures to reach a certain level before testing the ride, even with staff on board.
I've been everywhere on the east coast, Steel Curtain and Phantoms Revenge are 2 of the smoothest coasters I've been on. They are great for people just getting into the bigger more intense rides. Riding Millennium Force 5 minutes after CP opens (an hour after you wake up) isn't the best idea, but it wakes you up lol. Also being form Pittsburgh might make me a bit bias lol
Phantom is very intense though with that airtime.
Millennium force does not feel more intense than Phantom's Revenge at all.
I love that the staff are reffs
It's a nice touch.
I think a lot of rides are underrated but this thing seriously looks extremely underrated- I mean I never hear people talk about the ride
It has been a hard one to ride between the downtime and long lines.
There’s a reason, it’s really meh
I rode this for the 1st time today, it was 95 degrees and people said it was running as fast as it gets. Got 6 rides, 2 in front, it's a front row ride. Fantastic ride! Wasn't expecting the airtime to be so good. It's a top 10 for me, for now.
Nice!
The pacing on it is so good, I love this coaster! Especially the inversions, banana rolls sea serpent rolls and cutbacks aren't that common, and of course, the drachen fire dive drop. Lol
It has several good elements.
This was a good investment for Kennywood, they already have a Hyper in Phantoms but thus is so much more unique that they had to get it. And it gave the park more inversions which they needed. This ride is probably perfect for mixing positive Gs with airtime with inversions. Plus, ad in tons of near misses and very comfortable trains and you got a fantastic ride. I wish to see S&S make more of these.
And this was highly marketable.
What youd *really* love to see would be 6F purchase one of these to replace the Murican 🦅 @6FGAm. This thing was a stroke of genius & Joe Draves is the future of the game; the heir to Schilke’s throne
Is it a good investment still?
@@billchief397 Yes? Of course.
@@maxhagenauer24 but it's closed this year...
yeah the pacing and transitions are amazing, i think its running slower when u went tho cuz the footage looks slower and when i rode it gave a bit stronger forces than what u described
It's possible it ran slow. It didn't seem to warm up as the day went or after it rained.
@@CanobieCoaster yeah it definitely looks slower than the day I went
Trust us, us employees don't mind we Love that ride! I Love Steel Curtain, in my personal option it is the best ride in the park! I love the whip you get on the Zero-G-Stall! The whole ride is incredible from start to finish! Also as far as I am aware the ride have been a lot more reliable sense it opened for the 2021 season!
I just wish that testing took place before the park opened, but you sure are lucky.
I did ride this in 2019, and it’s in my top 20, and I did ride this in my Eagles jersey and chanted the Eagles fight song “Fly Eagles Fly” that they play at Lincoln Financial Field in South Philly, every time they score a touchdown, from the moment the train leaves the lift hill to the final brakes, and I’ve done that on quite a few amazing coasters, and also 41-33 😂.
I thought about wearing a Patriots jersey, but I didn't want to rile up the crowd.
If only Malcolm Butler played...
love the layout
Me too.
Congratulations on 6,000 subs!!! 🥳
Thank you!
This looks like a really fun ride!
It is!
5:56 I know what you’re saying but I really hope they can bring back filling in station like phantom’s Revenge did on steel curtain,sky rocket and thunderbolt some time soon
I hope so too.
Rode it @ Kennycon last Saturday 6 times, waited 35 minutes combined!
Nice!
@@CanobieCoasterRode Phantom's Revenge 21 times, row 7 ten times without leaving the train
Yooo I was there last Saturday too. And it was awesome bc no one was there barely
@@evelynmichele9826 There were 400ish of us ACErs (American Coaster Enthusiast) and maybe 200 others till 3 or 4 in the afternoon
I rode it a few weeks back and will be riding it again on Sunday. I think Phantom's is the better ride. Phantom's is in my Top 10 and this one is in my Top 50. I thought my afternoon ride on Steel Curtain was much better than the morning one which was on the first public train. It runs much slower in the morning even on hot days. I found Steel Curtain to have one really good air time moment, and 3 of the inversions I really enjoyed. I didn't realize the ending took a minute from the break run to the station. It didn't seem that long, but the lift hill sure does.
It didn't seem to speed up for me through the day, even after it rained.
Lucky....... in Napoleon Dynamite voice
I am not a football fan, so when I heard the name Steel Curtain, I was like, what in the world? I later rode it and enjoyed the weird ride. This coaster has the best views in Kennywood in my opinion.
Local football fans know the name well.
Rode it for the first time yesterday and I absolutely love this! Thanks to Phantom being trimmed to death (it moved down two spots for that reason), Steel Curtain is my #2.
Were the trims added this year?
It's the trims on the double down. In 2016 and 2018 we flew into the brakes, but yesterday we crawled into them.
Got 4 rides on phanton today.. no complaints and dont recall a trim
4:46 I know with my step mom working at Cedar Point, she tells me something very similar for Raptor. They would mainly get the custodial staff to ride instead of water dummies.
She has stop working there for about 10 years so maybe it changed since but I wouldn’t be surprised if they still do that today.
I wouldn't have an issue if they did it before the park opened.
Welcome to my home park. Glad you enjoyed the it. Steel Curtain is my personal favorite but Phantoms Revenge is definitely the better ride if that makes any sense. I go every Saturday and Sunday since i have a season pass.
Nice!
@@CanobieCoaster ive ridden Curtain 39 times this year and Phantom 102, in 12 visits
I hope to ride it soon! That is funny your a Patriots fan. Kennywood used to be my home park back in the day, and dealing with the incredibly rowdy steelers fans as a Washington Football teamer was pretty hard.
I thought about wearing a Patriots jersey but thought I'd get severely heckled.
i love the odd lsyout. This ride is GREAT
Indeed.
This ride is really one of a kind
Sure is.
I'm heading to Pittsburgh on the first day of July. Which is best row on Steel Curtain? I'm expecting it to be top 100 worldwide, or shouldn't I? But anyways, I just can't to ride your favorite in the state AND one of the coasters in your top 10 overall! WOOOOOOO!!!
I liked it a bit better in the back. Phantom is the elite ride.
My choice car one or two. El Toro Ryan suggests car 2 row three.
The ad youtube played at the end of the video was a kennywood ad
Lol
This thing is highly underrated IMO. I think the slow ops and unreliability cause it to not get the recognition it deserves. I waited 3 hours which was frustrating but worth it as it was a hot and running super fast
It definitely hasn't been an easy ride to get on multiple times.
Wait...wut? It’s been like the most hyped up coaster besides Iron Gwazi of the past two years 😂 what’re you talking about?
3 hours???
There's something about Hyper Loopers that Kennywood can't seem to get it running correctly. Also, contrast Steel Curtain's chain lift with their El Loco Model. Those chain lifts run fast.
If only Steel Curtain had an El Loco speed lift.
This is probably for the same reason that Gerstlauer launches accelerate so fast. Smaller trains are lighter, resulting in less force needed to accelerate the train the same amount.
I think Alan from arrow designed this ride. He is a ride engineering genius and has made some of the best rollercoasters! Alan if you see this please help out lake compounce with wildcat! Coaster has history but you can turn it into gold with your I track design!
I thought this was Joe Draves, the guy who worked with Alan.
In 2019 I got one of the first trains of the day on the front row, and only got one ride on this. I was extremely underwhelmed because it was morning, it was slow and hadn't warmed up yet. Next time I get to KW i need to ride this in its peak form, because it was very slow in the morning. It never broke down, it's just that phantom's revenge is in the same park, which is a VASTLY better coaster imo.
Now that I realize it, Taylor had the same exact experience I had with curtain haha
It didn't seem to speed up for me throughout the day.
@@CanobieCoaster dang I thought it would start to go faster. For living an hour from Kennywood I was disappointed with curtain. Out of my 67 credits, steel curtain is only my #20. It's pretty forceless in my opinion
4:08 Maxx Force at SFGAm uses these same trains yet the operators there do not perform separate seat belt and lap bar checks. Would it be a discrepancy in park policy? Also I have found these trains to be pretty forgiving when it comes to larger riders. I am a 5' 10'' 290 lb guy and I have never had an issue with Maxx Force's trains.
Parks can do it differently. Most parks do the belt check on RMCs but Herschend doesn't.
Let’s go Pats! But great quality video once again!
Thanks!
Not sure about the footprint dimensions, but, could you see one of these coming to six flags new england with a patriots theme to replace flashback and goliath?
I'd love to see a launch coaster more, but this would be cool too.
I love how Steel Curtain looks, but that's all I could do with it, since last year was my only visit. I don't mind the theme, although the only NFL team I like is whoever is playing the Cowboys. I'm pretty sure that Phantom's Revenge will remain my favorite whenever I get around to riding SC.
I saw it sitting idle my prior 3 visits so I know the feeling.
I got 2 rides on it a few days before Memorial Day and I thought it was brilliant. That lift hill does seem to take forever though.
Nice!
Builds anticipation
This coaster was decent but didn’t blow me away. The inversions seemed to just keep on coming, though they weren’t as snappy nor forceful as on a B&M looper or invert. Even though I’m a Bengals fan, I could appreciate the Steelers theming and felt like it works well at Kennywood. I’m agree with you; Phantom is still #1 at the park, followed by Steel Curtain.
I liked the pacing most.
Also, newer B&M loopers aren't very whippy either. Just look at Banshee.
@@me-myself-i787exactly
Does the roller coaster still shake when it goes Down the first loop
Probably (since all coasters have some sway), but I wasn't checking.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELLL MEEEE! Is this ride intense? Like how many times throughout the ride do you feel that horrific stomach flying in the air feeling? I have a season pass to Kennywood and this is the only coaster I haven't ridden there and I'm scared to death because of the lift hill. Someone please mentally prepare me, how intense on a scale of 1-10 is it? I love skyrocket even though it gives that horrible stomach feeling on the first hill because of how quickly you fly up the hill. My anxiety can't handle all the waiting, checking and slow lift hill that is involved with this ride. If it was a launch coaster, I'd ride it in a heartbeat. I just know I'll have an anxiety attack because of all the time that is involved with getting people strapped in and the steep and super long lift hill.
Phantom is more intense and this lift is similarly slow.
How accomodating is this? Im 6’2 170 and ive only had issues getting on one coaster out of the 202 ive ridden. but my cousin might go with me and hes roughly 6’5 but hes pretty skinny. Both of us really want to ride this and it was shut down the whole day on my last visit in august 2019
I saw quite a few people struggle with the restraints.
I think the lift is purposefully slow so they can play the first bit of Styx's Renegade as you climb
Possibly. I always thought it was mechanical.
I want to get out to Kennywood so bad. Mostly for phantom's revenge but steel curtain looks so awesome even though it's a bit weird.
It's a good 1-2 punch.
They acually made a land themed to a football team.
Yes
Unpopular opinion, but I like Steel Curtain better than Phantom's Revenge. This is for two main reasons.
One, the cars/seats. Though Phantom's Revenge has those legendary lapbars, which I do like, the thing that has soured the experience for me my last few rides has been the size of the seat, specifically the distance from the back of my seat to the back of the seat in front of me. If I don't push my lapbar down far enough, I'll slide forward and smash my knees on the back of the seat in front of me, which can be quite painful. I can somewhat remedy this by essentially stapling myself so that I don't slide forward, or by sitting in the front of a car, but its kind of stupid that I have to take these things into account on Phantom and can't just enjoy the ride. On Steel Curtain, you don't have to worry about that at all. The seats are much more open, and are separated further between each other, making knee banging a non-issue.
Two, the layout. While Phantom's Revenge definitely has Steel Curtain beat in terms of ejector airtime, there really isn't much else to the ride, with the exception of speed. Steel Curtain is a much more well-rounded coaster, and does several things Phantom's Revenge doesn't do. It has hang time, good positives, whip, several inversions, etc. It even has airtime moments, albeit less intense than Phantom's. Overall, its just the more complete package.
@@bmfanboy8838 I think the airtime moments are intense, but they aren't as sustained or intense as the ejector moments on El Toro or Skyrush. I think in order for Phantom's Revenge to be a truly elite ride, its airtime moments would need to need to be able to stand on their own, but they really don't in my opinion and it needs something else to complement them.
I agree Steel Curtain has a more well rounded layout but I like the endless ejector airtime of Phantom.
The color scheme looks honestly really nice when the sun is out for all 2 days we get sunny days in Pittsburgh. And alongside The Prominent Petrifying Pittsburgh Purple People eater it makes the skyline of Kennywood look really nice.
This ride has such a weird look.
Great coaster. The only thing keeping it from bein' PHENOMENAL is that it's about 10mph too slow during sections when it DEF could've been made a tad faster.
I was told from my footage the ride was running super slow when I experienced it.
Can you please tell us the history of the SBF Visa cyclone coaster?
I don't have plans, sorry.
Understood.
One cool feature is that the frame work as you climb the lift hill looks like you are looking through a Steeler face mask.
Never noticed that!
I love the Steelers:(
Not me!
Here in 2024 thanks for the lawn ornament
Hopefully it returns to operation next year.
I enjoyed this review. I'd agree that Steel Curtain isn't as Phantom's Revenge, yet it's also better than some very old wooden coasters, one of which is decent. My only other issue is that whist it reaches a height of over 200' the drop doesn't. Nothing personal: for me Steel Curtain isn't a hyper coaster, but Phantom's Revenge is (and while I may talk out of my ass re personal experience:) Phantom's Revenge has a 220' drop whereas Steel Curtain doesn't even have a 200' drop.
That's fair but that first dive loop is good regardless for me.
What possessed them to build a s&S 9 inversion hyper coaster themed to a football team (I think)
I get the theme since the Steelers are incredibly popular. And it made sense going for a record. Picking S&S was the weird part.
If it is called Steel Curtain, does that mean the supports are called ‘Curtain Rods?’
Joking aside, a new coaster had been in the works for well over a decade, with the original concept being a terrain coaster that would’ve utilized the shed at the bottom of the ravine (the plans of which can still be found online). When Steel Curtain was unveiled, it went completely out-of-bounds to what I and other former employees had expected.
As for its reception, local opinion is mixed. Some still lament the Log Jammer’s removal while others embrace the coaster while-heartedly. While I tend to lean toward the latter camp, I wonder if the Log Jammer still would exist had the original design been utilized.
I love how they kept this ride under wraps until it was announced.
Go Steelers!
Boo! Go Patriots!
@@CanobieCoaster lol
Actually, the most loops of any coaster in ALL of the Americas. I know, a difference without a distinction, but sounds more impressive. 😉
That's true.
*scuffs in double digit inversions*
More parks should install rides themed to local sports franchises. I've often wondered how much SFOT could accomplish if they collaborated with the Cowboys and Jerry Jones' endless bags of money. Especially since the stadium is literally 4 blocks away.
Agreed!
Its So Weird To Think This Park Holds The Inversion Record For The USA And Not Another Park Like Magic Mountain Cedar Point Or Hershey park
Kennywood isn't afraid to go big. Phantom originally opened with the biggest drop. And I think Pitt Fall may have been the tallest drop tower at one point if I remember correctly.
If they ever did the same for the Philadelphia Eagles, it would have to be a Vekoma SLC
Lol
Best seat??
I heard it ran slow for me, but I slightly preferred the back.
@@CanobieCoaster thanks for sharing!
I heard that this ride has a bit of downtime. I don't see how though. It's not like it has a lot of components compared to Top Thrill Dragster or Hagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure. It's basically just another coaster with a chain lift hill and breaks at the end.
It sort of was a prototype for S&S.
🎢 I took the front 💺 seats
And My Good Lord !!!😲😬😩🫣THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST FORCEFUL AND FASTEST COASTERS I’VE BEEN ON- it was Super sunny and it was going soo fast I could not catch my breath- it was non stop speed and loop twisting and turning - Its not for the faint or anything to be played with- This Coaster is the truth and nothing but-so help me God - because your gonna need it 😇🎯❤️💪🏽
Glad you loved it.
Yooo that looks so weird.
It really does.
Boo the pats,Super Bowl 42,46 were sweet
Go Pats!
But it killed the Sky Coaster :( I cannot forgive it for that.
It's built too close for the sky coaster to be safely ridden, so they basically just shut it down. Hopefully it gets sold and not demolished but ughhh, it's so unfortunate. Sky coaster is my favorite thing in the park, hands down.
I much prefer this to the Sky Coaster.
The *out **-n-** back* section is beautiful. All the rest of Steel Curtain is U.G.L.Y..
Fair!
Weirdest support structure ever. I agree, it is kind of ugly. It almost fits a helmet facemask look. S&S does the... most random and "fuck it lets just brace it here and there and be done" look to their support structures. These inversions are really taller than Top Thrill Dragsters vertical heartline roll?
Top Thrill Dragster has 0 inversions.
@@CanobieCoaster Oh yeah, right. That's stupid though. It's a non inverting inversion then, haha.
Hey I’m a Browns fan so we both agree the Steelers are the worst.
Honestly I would love to do a Browns take over where Browns fans just take up the entire train and we ride!
Lol
FiRsT
Nice!
That lift hill would kill me… an agonizing minute to the top. Builds tons of tension. That’s on purpose. But no thanks.
Ride looks far more disorientating than most would probably anticipate. You’re not recovered before being assaulted with more punches to the equilibrium. I’d ride it, but only ride before I left.
It's well worth trying.
"Extremely steep?"
90 degrees is extremely steep.
Yes
Always thought everything about this coaster is just ugly 🤷🏻♂️
It has a polarizing appearance.
did u know that i have 3 dogs
Nice!
I'm TERRIFIED to ride this. It looks like you could fall out if you don't hang on. Thats just my paranoia tho.
It's very safe.
Bill HILLgrove, not HARgrove...C'mon now.
Sorry!
He is downplaying the Racer, the Jack Rabbit, and the Thunderbolt which have been there since forever and are historic landmarks. They need to get rid of this thing and bring back the Paratroopers.
I like their woodies too.
He didn’t even acknowledge the woodies at all, it’s a Steel Curtain review, how is he downplaying them 😂