My first obsidian vault became, with the help of AI, a giant Wikipedia page with links 😅. Now, I use AI for specific research and translation. Thanks to you, I came to understand the usage of Zettelkasten, which is making me make notes on my understanding of things rather than copy paste.
I have recently switched to Emacs and Org Mode and it is like nirvana to me. I don’t use Org Roam yet but I plan to. I’m the future I want to use Org Mode for its agenda, tasks, time keeping, ability to “export” anything pandoc compatible (ditching office suite) and more. As a minimalist I love the one tool to do a job, this is one tool to do so much more. I suspect Emacs won’t add AI but if someone does create a package/mode, it’s opt in anyway! 🎉
I can see myself getting to this point eventually. Its really the only way to keep digital note-taking both pure and efficient without sacrificing your thinking
Really glad you talked about this. I have ethical reasons not to use certain types of AI (especially because I'm an artist and hate what visual generative AI is doing to us) though I acknowledge that this kind of AI can prove beneficial to the general note taker, especially in the scope of disability accommodation. Still, it shouldn't take *over* the entire process of thinking, so it's nice to see someone address this and understand the value of nurturing the process of learning. From an ADHDer to another ADHDer who just started using Obsidian + your Flow Vault, thanks and kudos!
i disagree for the most part. i get your point about not turning off our brains. however, im definitely not going to do research "organically" - i think ai has opportunities for saving time and let us spend more time being curious/synthesizing. your zettlekesten work is excellent and i support your work, but if you come out against AI/further automation i would probably unsubscribe from flowlabs since i would disagree with philosophy. i think if you only use perplexity you're not on the frontier of the tooling from a personal standpoint im interested 1) 1 foot in zettlekesten 2) 1 foot in ai future curious what emerges.
Yeah I agree with you that it is useful for research (which is how I use it) but all I'm saying is that we should be mindful about whats being lost in the tradeoff for efficiency. I am not anti AI at all, I use many automations for my business. But I am not particularly interested in being on the bleeding edge of digital thinking tools. The greatest thinkers of all time used pen and paper and in this case, I'll side with what has stood the test of time rather than the unknown future (as exciting as it may be). I have no problem with anyone who wants to try to automate knowledge development, but I stand by what I said that it will not make you a better thinker. Thanks for your support my friend!
@@TonyRamella Absolutely! I am very interested in zettlekesten as a “bottom up approach” I think some of the ai tools are very good for the “top down approach”
Thanks for the reminder Tony.
My first obsidian vault became, with the help of AI, a giant Wikipedia page with links 😅.
Now, I use AI for specific research and translation.
Thanks to you, I came to understand the usage of Zettelkasten, which is making me make notes on my understanding of things rather than copy paste.
I have recently switched to Emacs and Org Mode and it is like nirvana to me. I don’t use Org Roam yet but I plan to. I’m the future I want to use Org Mode for its agenda, tasks, time keeping, ability to “export” anything pandoc compatible (ditching office suite) and more. As a minimalist I love the one tool to do a job, this is one tool to do so much more. I suspect Emacs won’t add AI but if someone does create a package/mode, it’s opt in anyway! 🎉
I can see myself getting to this point eventually. Its really the only way to keep digital note-taking both pure and efficient without sacrificing your thinking
Really glad you talked about this. I have ethical reasons not to use certain types of AI (especially because I'm an artist and hate what visual generative AI is doing to us) though I acknowledge that this kind of AI can prove beneficial to the general note taker, especially in the scope of disability accommodation. Still, it shouldn't take *over* the entire process of thinking, so it's nice to see someone address this and understand the value of nurturing the process of learning. From an ADHDer to another ADHDer who just started using Obsidian + your Flow Vault, thanks and kudos!
i disagree for the most part.
i get your point about not turning off our brains.
however, im definitely not going to do research "organically" - i think ai has opportunities for saving time and let us spend more time being curious/synthesizing.
your zettlekesten work is excellent and i support your work, but if you come out against AI/further automation i would probably unsubscribe from flowlabs since i would disagree with philosophy.
i think if you only use perplexity you're not on the frontier of the tooling
from a personal standpoint im interested
1) 1 foot in zettlekesten
2) 1 foot in ai future
curious what emerges.
Yeah I agree with you that it is useful for research (which is how I use it) but all I'm saying is that we should be mindful about whats being lost in the tradeoff for efficiency. I am not anti AI at all, I use many automations for my business. But I am not particularly interested in being on the bleeding edge of digital thinking tools. The greatest thinkers of all time used pen and paper and in this case, I'll side with what has stood the test of time rather than the unknown future (as exciting as it may be). I have no problem with anyone who wants to try to automate knowledge development, but I stand by what I said that it will not make you a better thinker.
Thanks for your support my friend!
@@TonyRamella
Absolutely!
I am very interested in zettlekesten as a “bottom up approach”
I think some of the ai tools are very good for the “top down approach”