Initial review of the new motorcycle dash camera from Vantrue, the Falcon F1. Is it any good?🤔
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- UPDATE 13-JULY-2023
Folks just a quick note to say that the unit has now been fitted properly onto my BMW R1250GS and I have removed the Innovv k2 that was on it. Really pleased with the unit. However, there is one issue that annoys me and that was mentioned in the video. The emergency recording activates basically on every ride and I have even adjusted the phone app g sensor, but makes no difference. I have contacted vantrue and they say that this is for potholes etc. No other UA-camrs have stated this .I have simply turned this option off and if I need to record an event or emergency then I can simply press the button and it will save the previous minutes of looped footage onto the safe side of the sd card, so no major issue. The only issue with the unit emergency recording all the time basically is that you could run out of card space as the safe side does not overwrite footage like the looping side of the sd card, so you could run out of card space unless you format your card every week etc. It's not a deal breaker by any means but something you should be aware of. UPDATE FINISHED 👍
Description
Vantrue sent me their new motorcycle dash camera, free of charge, to try out and review.
12 months warranty, increased to 18 months when you register online at Vantrue.
4k front camera and 1080p rear camera.
More information at
www.vantrue.com/en-gb/product...
Available from Amazon at, rrp £319.99
www.amazon.co.uk/Vantrue-Moto...
00:00 Introduction
02:13 What's in the box then?
06:44 Specifications stuff
10:16 Fitting it to the bike, kind of!!
11:51 The temporary installation
15:21 Points to note from Vantrue
16:10 The app and software updates
16:42 Some of the app settings for the F1
17:45 The remote control, how it works
20:32 Let's go for a ride and see what the footage looks like
24:19 final thoughts
30:06 Would I buy one??
The wire that I tapped into was the red and blue wire on the switched live side - Розваги
In short; OK-ish. I paid 290 euro begin 2024, the unit seems more like 200 euro something.
---According Vantrue, you regularly need to reformat the memory card. Vantrue uses the FAT32 format, which is not secure and very old fashioned and limits files to 4GB and windows made partitions to 32GB.
---It is impossible to get the original full size video files off the SD card, they can only be sent as a copy with reduced resolution; what the hell?!
---VLC player would NOT play any of the .MP4 files because of HVC1 video format. Win media player has no problems.
---You can use micro SD card up to 512GB though. (512GB records about 28h of video (per minute; FRONT 4K=233MB and REAR 1080=74MB; together 307MB per minute))
---Rear camera cable could be a bit longer. Front camera cable is a very special fragile high speed data coax cable. BE CAREFULL!
---CPU unit is not really waterproof and a USB-C connection would be better and much faster (Only WIFI to your phone/laptop possible. Who wants to watch the video stream while driving ???)
---Feedback voice is a very annoying Chinese English tone with bad grammar and difficult to understand.
---Camera's seem nice and solid, control box less so; very plastic-y
---System has a 2 amp fuse; so could use about 25Watt, which is quite a LOT !!
---The CPU gets quite warm during use, especially in summer.
Thank you for this... I am looking closely at getting this for my 2023 Goldwing.
Bought this kit after your video. Get back after installing. Thanks
Glad it helped
I had the Vantrue MT1 Dashcam on my last bike and was very pleased. Just purchased the F1 for my new bike.
I had a previous on board dash cam but have several bikes so now use the Techalogic two way helmet cam. A mount on each helmet no cables, battery lasts about 2.5 to 3 hours, you can use a power bank as well. The footage is pretty good, only use it as a dash cam. I cycle as well and recently fitted it to my cycle helmet and was amazed by the change in driver behaviour with a big reduction in near passes especially from trucks.
As they say a picture paints a thousand words and may save you thousands or worse , prosecution! 👍
Very use video, well done & thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great review, my wife has bought me this for Xmas. Looking forward to fitting it to my Africa Twin 👍
Works well and is still on my bike. although it was given to me free of charge by Vantrue, and I had to take my Innov kit off.....the Innov kit is still in a cupboard and won't be going back on. 👍
I bought this camera about a week ago now, seems pretty decent to me and on the day I received an £80 discount so happy days.
That makes sense. 😊
I installed a vsysto system records front back simultaneously the quality is good all cables marked to conect easily. Conect to phone for live viewing Without screen 120 € with live screen 150€ very good sistem attention cliente second to none 👍
Great video again Paul. Like the simple explanations you give which gives me hope I could actually install one of these. Only problem would be the live feed as i am not sure where to find that on my 2017 GSA and don't want to have to buy a Hex ezycan just to instal a unit like this. How did you find the wire on your GS? Thanks again, look forward to the installation video.
The feed was easy to find thanks to one of Steve at a bike thing videos. Always good to check with your local friendly BMW garage if not sure 😀The install is pretty simple just a bit time consuming to hide the cables . I will put a link on the description page to the video .
Great Content, Thank you! I'm curious, is a positap the only option (I would rather not do that)?
I am sure there is, some kind of terminal block connector. No issues with the system to date.
Thanks, a well timed video (both from yourself and UA-cam in showing it in my feeds) Been looking at bike camera options. Had sort of settled on the K5 (Innov) but wasn't taken-as you mention too- with the bulky front camera/DVR setup versus the more discreet camera setup of the K3 but then you don't have 4K....
The F1 pretty well addresses most of my issues, they seem to have achieved 4K with a remote camera when Innov claimed cable capacity was a constraint albeit the F1 doesn't support 60fps ( there is the argument that higher rate albeit lower res reduces number plate blur at speed ) which might be a small negative for some wanting high grade "movie" footage. Not an issue for me as I just want a dashcam primarily. Minor items? one reviewer has already rounded out the card slot cover screws, early K5's had similar screws which were quickly upgraded to thumb screws so a potential remedy here too. The remote is sensitive to how you mount it as going by the manual your's has the microphone on the leading edge as fitted so probably picking up much more wind noise that way ( but appreciate you had done a temporary test setup) I suppose too long term reliability is a present unknown but anyway enough prattle from me, I'm away to order one!
I bought what I thought was the best bike camera system a few years back (INNOVV K1) but it was totally unreliable. Even flashing the headlight would cause the camera to reboot. I then moved to a Amazon GoPro copy which was so much more reliable than the INNOVV but that was easily pinched from the bike. Three years ago I bought a VSYSTO B6 camera, it was aroudn £100 for a dual cam setup. It's been absolutely faultless. So if you're after a sensibly priced dual camera setup that runs from a USB socket give VSYSTO a try.
Thanks for the comments . Removed the K2 today and did the full install of the F1. May have to switch the gsensor off if the Red emergency record light comes on over bumps , but velcro used under the pillion seat area so will see how it goes . More than happy with the F1 hence I fitted it properly today . Sd card cover with those screws will definitely have to be careful if you’re going to be taking the cars out to download vlogging / tour video . 👍👍
Particularly helpful review, I just need to figure out how I will install it if I buy one on my 2017 Aprilia RSV4 RR
Your videos look very professional, may I ask what editing software you use?
Thanks, using MacBook with FCPX . Merry Christmas and ride safe 👍
Just the information I needed as I didn't like the way Innov 4k camera wiring attaches to the camera itself, much prefer this setup. Could that front camera be stuck to the top of the headlight unit of a 2021 gsa?
Hi, I have had a look at my GS, and I don't think you can mount it along the top . The unit works very well.
Thanks for that, I have the same headlight guard as you so could fit it that way too. I think I will order one@@gsd32i
Full install video next then Paul 😂 🎉
hahahaha...great sense of humour🤪
Hi.
Got one now but does your rear view camera playback recording show you on the wrong side of the road like mine?
Also, the rear view recordings show number plates back to front wording?
I have changed the ‘Rear Mirror’ setting but it’s doesn’t do any…
Thanks.
Just got back home from working away so I will have a look at that
@@gsd32i Take a Look at yours but I just got a reply from their support:
Our engineers will fix this problem by updating the main unit software. Please keep an eye out for our OTA upgrade message these two days. Thank you.
Best regards,
Gloria
Vantrue Customer Service Team
@@ConciergeMed Oh yes, Gloria, I have dealt with her regarding the issue I had with the motion detection always switching the camera on to save the footage onto the safe side of the sd card, so I have switched
that off. I did add this to the description as an update several weeks ago. Will go and look at my footage down in the garage regarding your issue. Thanks
Mirror setting in the App, turn off.
Curious, what was the Artists who performed the music? Thank You
First I've heard of this unit. Looking for a replacement for my Innovv K1. It would be nice to know hos fast it can download footage to the phone though. (Looking to other reviews for this).
Thanks, the download speed is not particularly quick. I will try and do a video of this when I have time.
Thanks for this. Wonder if the connections will work with just a Thunderbox rather than tapping into a switched wire…
Not sure what a thunder box is TBH !
I’d love to know the answer to this as well. I suspect the switched wire can just be routed to the same positive wire you connect to the thunder box as I don’t want this camera directly wired to my battery.
Great video. Do you need to connect this via a Cambus connection?
You have several options, with the innov k2 that was on the bmw, it ws powered by the hex ezcan, which meant the unit was only ever powered when the ignition was on. To utilise the parking crash detection modes the unit has to have power to wake it up and this is where the yellow accessory cable comes in. So you can simply use the hex ezcan and plug red black and yellow into one of the plugs and lose the detection function or go red black to the battery and yellow to a switched live feed, in my case I have done this to the bmw and utilised a brown a blue wire that is in a plug at the base of the tank under the seat. Phew.....
@@gsd32i Many thanks, I have the same engine (BMW R1250RS) and I don'y have a cambus system installed. Great video! Thanks for your help
Can you let me know how you’re getting on with this and, is the App working well? I’m reading poor reviews on it disconnecting… Thanks.
hi, the app has not been an issue . the only negative is that it does take a while to transfer footage from card to phone , otherwise brilliant bit of kit.👍
When you fitted the F1 permanently did you leave the wiring as you video or rewire through the thunder box.Cheers
Hi, I had it wired direct to the battery and then the yellow switched live then went into the thunder box live side once I had installed that, but prior to the TB install I had picked off a switched live from a plug immediately behind the petrol tank under the riders seat..... I think its the one that most folk use.
Can you set it to loop record?
Can I remove voices when I turn on the bike? can I also remove GPS information from video?
yes and yes
Great video, thanks!
Question, any more input after installing it for good?
I have limited and quite some disappointing experience with an innovv dash cam (corrupted and missing files) so that I am now very skeptical in diving into another set. Any feedback is appreciated - cheers!
Hi, please excuse the late reply. I have sent Vantrue support a few questions and am waiting for them to get back to me. Nothing major and I would definitely recommend the unit. in fact it's still on my bike. I will get back in contact with you in the next 24 hours when they reply to me . 👍
@@gsd32i Looking forward to it, thank you!
Hi. I have been in contact with Vantrue. Shouldn't be a deal breaker, but they have not yet fixed the problem of one of the settings, which you can select from your phone in the set up. Basically you alter many things on the device. One is sensitivity to "g", used when you are ridding along and if someone collides with you, the video file is saved on a different section of the sd card, which cannot then be overwritten . I have turned this function off as it was activating over every bump in the road, which meant that you could run out of loop video storage as everything could possibly be stored to the safe side of the sd card. Resulting in the sd card becoming full. Reality is it isn't an issue IMHO.
It's a very good product. Download speed from the device to your phone for storage is slow.....it will take about 1 min 30 seconds for a 4 minute 4k front video..... But you can always remove the sd card (fiddly)and insert into your laptop etc for faster download. At the end of the day I use mine for evidential recording and nothing else. Hope this helps. Regards Paul
@@gsd32i thanks Paul. Highly appreciated your feedback. I agree, no deal breaker „as long this function can be switched off!”. I doubt that in case of a crash the capacity of the SD might be too small so that the incident will be overwritten… that means the motorcycle needs to be continuously running for quite some time, correct!?
I really like the feature you pointed out, when a sudden power loss scenario occurs that the main unit keeps itself alive for a moment to safely store the last file…
Thank you again for the video and your post discussion. Great stuff!
@@2BeAll4it No problem, glad to help.😁
I've been considering the K3 but, having watched your video, I'm now thinking I'll get a F1. Apparently, Innovv integrate the camera into the 'DVR' lump of their K5 because a sufficiently high data rate can't be achieved for 4K via a cable. So I wonder what the data rate is, for the F1's 4K. I don't like the K5's lump. Whatever, hopefully the F1's 4K will still be better than the K3's 1080, even if its using a lower data rate than the K5. There seems to be some confusion about whether it's the yellow or red wire which is the 'ACC' (switched live) wire; other reviewers have connected the yellow as the permanent live, and the red as the switched.
Hi. I have now done a full install onto my GS as a I am more than pleased with the footage from the 4k camera. Yes there is no image stabilisation , but the quality is still more than usable even for your videos. My k2 1080p was pretty poor tbh and only good enough for" they pulled out in front of me officer" footage. The yellow wire on mine is the trigger wire and labelled as such. Only main issue I have noticed is the camera records onto the emergency side when I go over a bump , as though it thinks it's involved in an accident. I have contacted vantrue about this as I have changed the g sensor settings in the app and it makes little or no difference to the sensitivity . Not a major issue as I have now deactivated the crash g sensor via the app. The video still records all the time , on the normal looping side of the sd card ,which can be overwritten when it runs out of space, footage on the emergency side is safe and cannot be overwritten , so if you don't format your card frequently I suspect that you could run out of looping space and be left with NO space to record the dog running out in front of you which caused the crash!!!!!!!so thats why I deactivated it. vantrue said that was what it was supposed to do this for potholes and things, which I find not ideal. Not big deal and the unit fits nicely on my gs and now works great with the g sensor switched off and if I see something I want to record to the safe side I just press the emergency button and voila its safe. So I am pleased with the F1 , hopefully a software update may sort the g thing out. Strange that no other UA-camrs who were sent the unit didn't have this problem or they did and didn't highlight it. Nice bit of kit 👍 wow that was a lot answer.....
@@gsd32i Good to know - I've bought an F1. I also have a '22 Triple Black. Can you please tell me which wire you've used for the ACC switched live? I haven't looked / probed yet, so it may be obvious, but thought I'd ask in the meantime (you say "a blue a brown" in another comment - did you mean "blue *and* brown"?). Also, did you use a fuse in the yellow wire? I'm not sure whether the switched live being tapped would already be fused / fused correctly. Presumably, whatever bike circuit it is, it will be fused with a fuse of some value or other. The manual for the camera indicates a 3A fuse in this wire; I think I'll fit a 1A. I'm hoping to find space under the seat(s) for the F1 'DVR' and a Fuzeblock FZ-1 (not sure that will fit). TVM.
Hi, it's the red and blue wire. have a look at this video , ua-cam.com/video/GsP9l-c8ezc/v-deo.html, at 29 minutes 17 secs I didn't use a fuse in the yellow wire. With cable management you should be able to squeeze your bits in!
@@gsd32i If I may please ask another question: The manual says that the default loop is 1 minute, and that 'others are available'. Also that the SD card and loops will be overwritten when the card is full. Presumably, one of these other loop options is 'the whole SD card'? (If not, then how would the card ever get full?). TVM.
@@vfurry4032 hi . I believe it is to do with the segments that it records , ie in 1 minute chunks in that case , but I may be wrong . So with a 100 minutes sd card you would get 100 segments then it would start to overwrite segment number 1 when it had run out of space . However I may be wrong !!!
I don't want to sound like a hater. I came to your channel for this review because I have seen your reviews and felt they were deep, granular, and honest.
But, dude, make the music half your voice level. At least.
Let's assume that your choices for music don't match mine.
How likely am I to watch your complete video if I have to keep dicking with the volume levels, to tune out your music, and to tune in what you are saying?
Nearly quit on you at only 2:44.
And maybe I am wrong. Maybe people want that "music" during the high-speed unpacking to be blasting.
Hell, maybe they are doing self nipple-piercing while watching your unboxing.
I would like about a quarter of your voice volume level for filler music. Whether its Vivaldi or Iron Maiden.
Appreciate the input, in reality it was only a small section to accompany the unboxing bit, but noted. Not sure about self nipple piercing when viewing the video though 😂 Ride safe 👍
Can you tell me the diameter and length of the camera bodies?
Hi. Apologies for the delay...I have been away from home working. The front and rear cameras are the same dimensions....slightly tapering towards the lens. Max diameter is 28mm(rear of the camera), length of the body is 38mm, but with the cable feed coming out of the rear of the camera, allowing for being the cable bit...you're looking at a working length of about 52mm. Hope this helps. It's still on my bike and I find it a great system. I had the Innov kit before, but was sent this free to try and yup, its still fitted. 👍 Happy New Year.
Pity you didn't show images from noth the F1 and the K5 together for comparison
imagine having both camera systems monted on the bike (innov and vantrue) and not show us any comparison between them 😕😕
also, when will these companies gonna learn we need stabilization for moto dash cams, it's not a car!
Oooops😂 Well, let's just say that I have ripped the Innovv off the GS now and fully installed the Vantrue system, need I say more? But point taken. One thing I actually agree with you on is the stabilisation . I have put an update on the page today regarding the emergency recording, which others haven't mentioned. I thank you for your continued positive comments . Ride safe. 👍
Interesting that the roads in Jersey are just as rubbish as in the U.K. European pot hole central. I thought that the roads would be on a par with the excellent roads of Luxembourg, both tax havens.
I wish...on both topics😂
@@gsd32i tax heaven for the super rich. Remember Philip Green, all profits paid to wife via Jersey company to Monaco, no tax liability. For the rich only, poor people pay taxes.
Your wife seriously needs to take away your bank accounts make you wear boxing gloves. I can't imagine how you must be inside the house honey why don't we pull the car apart make a video and try and put it together. I had a neighbor that was constantly screwing with things until he ruined them i dubbed him the fiddler. I saw him ruin a 90000 dollar pickup constantly screwing with it. Want his email maybe you 2 can start a new trend for people that just quit screwing with things :)
I think I have his e mail already . But thanks for thinking of me and have a great day . Oh and remember … ride safe and enjoy yourself 👍😀
Video quality looks poor
Hi Andy , rear 1080 is ok (ish) front is more than adequate and without image stabilisation I would say it’s very good all things said . 👍