I mounted the rear camera on the top of the licence plate light with the 3M adhesive and the front camera under the middle of the headlight. Routed the front camera and remote cabling under the middle cowling and under the seat to the trunk. The rear camera cabling went around the bottom of the trunk and into the hole where the grommet was. All cabling was connected in the trunk and the power cabling was connected to the Pathfinder power hub. Everything works well and is solid. No need to cut or drill into anything. I also mounted the remote to the right side of the center console.
In today’s highly litigious society. Front and Rear cameras are a really good/great idea. Nice job Cruise. If you decide to stick with this particular system, please let us know where you end up installing the rear camera and any other details learned, and then of course a long term review. Appreciate the content.
It would definitely need to be higher up. If I hook up my trailer, I would not be able to see anything. Plus, it is going to get a lot of road grime where it is right now.
@@cruisemansgarage Good points. This device is becoming more important. Nothing beats a camera for the permanent record. Thanks for the work out there.
I've been running the INNOVV K5 dash cam on my Goldwing for a few years. The dash cam was a big help when a car ran a red light. The cam showed my green light and there was no issues with the cars insurance company at who was at fault. I also run dash cams in my car it might be that I'm in SoCal and the traffic out here is...well different than other places I've been to in this country so I've learned it is needed. But like you placement of the front and rear cameras took some thought. I managed to install the cameras without having to drill holes into the plastic; that 3M double sided tape is some good stuff.
Although I ride a 2011 BMW R1200RT, I enjoy watching your videos (at 5'3" I'm too vertically challenged to ride a GW). I have had the INNOVV K3 system on my bike for a couple years. The remote control seems a little more "installation friendly" than the F1. For reviewing videos, a third-party app, such as Dashcam Viewer installed on a PC or laptop is really nice. You simply copy the video files from a particular trip into a folder (e.g., by date) on the PC. When you run the viewer, it superimposes your trip onto a Google or Mapquest map. You can then click on any spot on the trip and it takes you right there. It also displays the trip data in various formats.
But in case of a crash your insurance company will want raw files. However, they will be unable to open them because their tech department is none existent. So, any camera that does not write true video files, will have your insurance company just shake their shoulders and ignore your video proof.
Looks good! I've been looking to put one of these on the bike. The GoPro battery just doesn't last long enough and it would be nice not to have to worry about whether it's recording or not.
My dad had an accident where a lady swerved infront of him and he didn't have a long enough path to brake.. Lady said she was already in the lane 300 meters before he crashed into her back which is obviously bs, but it's word against word - no other witneses, no one even stopped to help my dad laying unconscious on the road. I feel like a lot of people lost their decency in a sense of not admitting to being wrong/doing something wrong. My dad said himself after the crash, that he doesn't care about the money he'll have to spend on new gear and a bike, but that the lady lied. (If she had told the truth, the outcome would have been the same, maybe he would have gotten some money from the insurance, but nothing major). If you read the whole thing - First day i drove him back home from the hospital, he sat down at the computer and started ordering new gear. I think he's going to be fine :d Thank you for making videos like this. Hopefully we can prevent nasty accidents like these with the cameras.
I have a Vantrue 3chanel dashcam for my car and have been happy for it. If I pull the trigger and decide to get my motorcycle license and a motorcycle, I'll definitely be getting this.
Hi, Question; how is the front lens holding up? (bugs, sand, rocks can easily damage it?) 2024 feb; Just got one for about $300us For me, the unit seems more worth like $200us something. CONS; -Regarding the memory card; Vantrue uses the FAT32 format, which is not secure and very old fashioned and limits files to 4GB and windows made partitions to 32GB. You can use micro SD card up to 512GB though. (512GB records about 28h of video (per minute; FRONT 4K=233MB and REAR 1080=74MB; together 307MB per minute)) -VLC player would NOT play any of the .MP4 files because of HVC1 video format. Win media player has no problems. -Rear camera cable could be a bit longer. Front camera cable is a fragile high speed data coax cable. -CPU unit is not really waterproof and a USB-C connection would be better than WIFI to your phone/laptop. (Who wants to watch the video stream while driving ???) -Feedback voice is a very annoying Chinese English tone with bad grammar -Camera's seem nice and solid, control box less so; very plastic-y -System has a 2 amp fuse; so uses about 25Watt, which is quite a LOT !! The front 4K camera and especially the CPU block gets a bit warm. For me; Video quality and anti vibration are good. In all; OK-ish. Thanks for your review!
Thanks for this video! Helped me decide to get one. I guess I lucked out with the wiring harness because the colors match the instructions. Installation wasn't too bad. Just time consuming. Works like a charm now. Thanks again!
Thank you for taking the time to show all involved with this camera. Its a nice system, but I wouldnt use it simply for the substantial amount of real estate required for all of that hardware / circuitry. I think Ill be going with the system I have in my car / truck, it has very similar features, however with blue tooth connectivity and a simple power cord is all thats needed. Cheers!
I have the DVR for my INNOVV K3 Dashcam installed in my left saddlebag, giving easy access to the micro SD card. There is holes/Grommets that can be used to feed the wires trough.
Cruise man, my name is Danny White and I live in Rayford North Carolina which is not too far from Fayetteville North Carolina or Fort Bragg. I watch your videos all the time. I saw your video on you installing your camera on your motorcycle. I had a motorcycle accident also. I was riding my Honda VTX1800r when a lady rear-ended me at a stop sign, She told the state trooper that she saw me but she thought I was gone and I was waiting for a vehicle to go by. I had a camera system that I had installed on it. I took the camera off my VTX and installed it on my 2018 Honda Goldwing and you said that you wanted some pictures so I'm sending you my pictures. I know you said that you didn’t wont to install your rear camera where I put mine but it worked out good and my front camera is centered on my upper fairing below my lights. Also on my camera it looks like it's all scratched up but it's not I left the protective film on my screen, I really need to remove it, but it’s ok for now because I plan on replacing my camera system with the new Vantrue F1 system that you installed on your Goldwing. 0:32
I have mounted cam to area above front fender. The camera will hit the fender when compressed driving and hitting bumps. Has to be right or left of dead center to clear fender.
Hi Cruiseman, Hope you and your family had a great Christmas, just received the F1 vantrue for my '23 DCT Tour, will fit over winter. May fit main unit into rear trunk on mine. Thanks for sharing.
Actually parking mode is almost useless if the dashcam can't send an alarm message and/or vid/pics of the moment of the alarm. Still trying to find the similar dashcam like blackvue make for cars. They can send vids to the cloud and alert message to the application☝
Cruiseman since you have the main unit installed underneath your seat, does that mean that you have to take your seat off every time you want to reformat?? That will be a pain
Great video again Cruiseman. Maybe i missed something, but was this system designed and built specifically for motorcycles, or is it for other vehicles too? I ask because the length of cables would likely be longer to connect cameras from one end to the other on a car, and you didnt cut any besides the power connections. Also, some guys have multiple bikes, would there be a conflict connecting more than one system to your phone if you had 2 or more systems installed on various bikes?
Good info video. Were you able to correct the rear cam light in the dark issue? what kind and where do I find your radiator grills? I want to keep the dam bugs out as best I can. be safe.
I really like your presentation on this camera. I'm new to all this tech stuff and my main question is how long can you record? I would think it would depend on the size of the card. Would it record a 2 hour trip? Would like to hear from you or any of your followers. Thanks...
@@cruisemansgarage That's like drivers crossing double yellows when they think nobody is around. Personally, I've had instances when I've come to a stop at a stop sign, in the middle of the night, and some a-hole blows through the intersection in front of me because he thought nobody was there. Stay cautious.
All the features listed here as pros are what you can find on 90% of the other dashcams on the market for a fraction of the price. Sure some are really crappy, but I believe that most are good enough for the purpose of a dashcam.
Unless you can read a license plate number from a decent distance, they may not be worth as much as you think. The camera's sensor is where much of the cost is and this unit has the Sony StarVis 8M Sensor + WDR
Nice review. Very informative. One extra question- What size SD did you get and how many hours of video does it save before starting to write over the old?
Any issues with the g sensor being triggered all the time and recording onto the safe of the sd card . I’ve had to switch mine off . No great problem though . Very good system .
Have you had any problems with the Date/Time Stamp? I have had 2 different VanTrue dashcams (in my cars) and after a few weeks the Date/Time Stamp had to be reset EVERY time I turned the car off. So I have bought different dashcams for my cars now.
I purchased the Vantrue for my 2009 Royal Venture and had to "adjust" to place it under the seat. The video is perfect and I love the ease of setting it up. However! I was enjoying my Freedconn helmet R3 and now I can't use the video on my helmet! What did I do wrong? I realize they connect on different wifi, but surely my Freedconn should at minimal video. I have reset Ventrue and Freedconn and am slowly realizing I may never enjoy my helmet cam again. Is there something I'm missing? The wifi for the Freedconn connects, but it cannot connect to the app. My dash cam is working great! HELP!!!
real shame that there are only two! and very expensive solutions for 4k dashcams for motorcycles while cars have many many options. this system is 4 times the price of what you can find for cars, shame :(
Possible. And I am considering relocating to one of the saddlebags or center pocket in the future. The only question would be if the front camera cable would reach.
Cruiseman, Very interested in this system. Are the cords long enough to place the main unit in the trunk on the DCT Tour or either of the side cases? Thanks , Mike
I have the innovv k3 and I have the dvr mounted in the trunk. you will need to drill a decent size hole to route the wires though. I used black gorilla tape to seal the hole where the wires passed through.
I have a 2023 DCT Tour. All of the cables for the power, front camera and remote are long enough to reach the trunk. There is a grommet on the left front corner of the trunk, so you don't have to drill any holes.
@@waynebasso3791 thanks for pointing this fact out to me. However with my system, the front camera cable, the way I routed it down the right side of the bike, would not reach that grommet. Maybe if the front camera and cable are mounted and routed on the left side, it would be a good option for some. However, I personally don’t like that location and drilled my hole closer to the speaker enclosure on the right side, thus making a smaller hole and having the cables tucked out of the way and less likely to have anything interfere with the cables. DVR is mounted above the speaker enclosure with Velcro.
Wasting time telling us why one might want a dash cam and we're literally searching and find this video because we already determined we want/need one. Wasting more time on packaging, I couldn't take it any more, bailed on watching rest of video to give this feedback.
I mounted the rear camera on the top of the licence plate light with the 3M adhesive and the front camera under the middle of the headlight. Routed the front camera and remote cabling under the middle cowling and under the seat to the trunk. The rear camera cabling went around the bottom of the trunk and into the hole where the grommet was. All cabling was connected in the trunk and the power cabling was connected to the Pathfinder power hub. Everything works well and is solid. No need to cut or drill into anything. I also mounted the remote to the right side of the center console.
In today’s highly litigious society. Front and Rear cameras are a really good/great idea. Nice job Cruise. If you decide to stick with this particular system, please let us know where you end up installing the rear camera and any other details learned, and then of course a long term review. Appreciate the content.
It would definitely need to be higher up. If I hook up my trailer, I would not be able to see anything. Plus, it is going to get a lot of road grime where it is right now.
@@cruisemansgarage
Good points. This device is becoming more important. Nothing beats a camera for the permanent record. Thanks for the work out there.
Thank you for creating and posting.
I've been running the INNOVV K5 dash cam on my Goldwing for a few years. The dash cam was a big help when a car ran a red light. The cam showed my green light and there was no issues with the cars insurance company at who was at fault. I also run dash cams in my car it might be that I'm in SoCal and the traffic out here is...well different than other places I've been to in this country so I've learned it is needed. But like you placement of the front and rear cameras took some thought. I managed to install the cameras without having to drill holes into the plastic; that 3M double sided tape is some good stuff.
Although I ride a 2011 BMW R1200RT, I enjoy watching your videos (at 5'3" I'm too vertically challenged to ride a GW). I have had the INNOVV K3 system on my bike for a couple years. The remote control seems a little more "installation friendly" than the F1. For reviewing videos, a third-party app, such as Dashcam Viewer installed on a PC or laptop is really nice. You simply copy the video files from a particular trip into a folder (e.g., by date) on the PC. When you run the viewer, it superimposes your trip onto a Google or Mapquest map. You can then click on any spot on the trip and it takes you right there. It also displays the trip data in various formats.
But in case of a crash your insurance company will want raw files. However, they will be unable to open them because their tech department is none existent. So, any camera that does not write true video files, will have your insurance company just shake their shoulders and ignore your video proof.
Looks good! I've been looking to put one of these on the bike. The GoPro battery just doesn't last long enough and it would be nice not to have to worry about whether it's recording or not.
My dad had an accident where a lady swerved infront of him and he didn't have a long enough path to brake.. Lady said she was already in the lane 300 meters before he crashed into her back which is obviously bs, but it's word against word - no other witneses, no one even stopped to help my dad laying unconscious on the road. I feel like a lot of people lost their decency in a sense of not admitting to being wrong/doing something wrong. My dad said himself after the crash, that he doesn't care about the money he'll have to spend on new gear and a bike, but that the lady lied. (If she had told the truth, the outcome would have been the same, maybe he would have gotten some money from the insurance, but nothing major).
If you read the whole thing - First day i drove him back home from the hospital, he sat down at the computer and started ordering new gear. I think he's going to be fine :d
Thank you for making videos like this. Hopefully we can prevent nasty accidents like these with the cameras.
I have a Vantrue 3chanel dashcam for my car and have been happy for it. If I pull the trigger and decide to get my motorcycle license and a motorcycle, I'll definitely be getting this.
Hi, Question; how is the front lens holding up? (bugs, sand, rocks can easily damage it?)
2024 feb; Just got one for about $300us For me, the unit seems more worth like $200us something.
CONS;
-Regarding the memory card; Vantrue uses the FAT32 format, which is not secure and very old fashioned and limits files to 4GB and windows made partitions to 32GB. You can use micro SD card up to 512GB though. (512GB records about 28h of video (per minute; FRONT 4K=233MB and REAR 1080=74MB; together 307MB per minute))
-VLC player would NOT play any of the .MP4 files because of HVC1 video format. Win media player has no problems.
-Rear camera cable could be a bit longer. Front camera cable is a fragile high speed data coax cable.
-CPU unit is not really waterproof and a USB-C connection would be better than WIFI to your phone/laptop. (Who wants to watch the video stream while driving ???)
-Feedback voice is a very annoying Chinese English tone with bad grammar
-Camera's seem nice and solid, control box less so; very plastic-y
-System has a 2 amp fuse; so uses about 25Watt, which is quite a LOT !! The front 4K camera and especially the CPU block gets a bit warm.
For me; Video quality and anti vibration are good.
In all; OK-ish.
Thanks for your review!
Thanks for this video! Helped me decide to get one. I guess I lucked out with the wiring harness because the colors match the instructions. Installation wasn't too bad. Just time consuming. Works like a charm now. Thanks again!
Thank you for taking the time to show all involved with this camera.
Its a nice system, but I wouldnt use it simply for the substantial amount of real estate required for all of that hardware / circuitry.
I think Ill be going with the system I have in my car / truck, it has very similar features, however with blue tooth connectivity and a simple power cord is all thats needed.
Cheers!
I have the DVR for my INNOVV K3 Dashcam installed in my left saddlebag, giving easy access to the micro SD card. There is holes/Grommets that can be used to feed the wires trough.
I noticed those grommets today. Might just have to use those!
Cruise man, my name is Danny White and I live in Rayford North Carolina which is not too far from Fayetteville North Carolina or Fort Bragg. I watch your videos all the time. I saw your video on you installing your camera on your motorcycle. I had a motorcycle accident also. I was riding my Honda VTX1800r when a lady rear-ended me at a stop sign, She told the state trooper that she saw me but she thought I was gone and I was waiting for a vehicle to go by. I had a camera system that I had installed on it. I took the camera off my VTX and installed it on my 2018 Honda Goldwing and you said that you wanted some pictures so I'm sending you my pictures. I know you said that you didn’t wont to install your rear camera where I put mine but it worked out good and my front camera is centered on my upper fairing below my lights. Also on my camera it looks like it's all scratched up but it's not I left the protective film on my screen, I really need to remove it, but it’s ok for now because I plan on replacing my camera system with the new Vantrue F1 system that you installed on your Goldwing. 0:32
I have mounted cam to area above front fender. The camera will hit the fender when compressed driving and hitting bumps. Has to be right or left of dead center to clear fender.
Hi Cruiseman, Hope you and your family had a great Christmas, just received the F1 vantrue for my '23 DCT Tour, will fit over winter. May fit main unit into rear trunk on mine. Thanks for sharing.
I think I am going to move my main unit into my right saddlebag.
I can’t thank you enough for your great work, Wow, Bravo from Montreal!
We will be in Canada in 3 weeks (on a cruise). Looking forward to the cooler weather!
@@cruisemansgarage have a safe drive! You must go to the maritimes if you haven’t been yet.
Thanks for sharing that info. It looks like a product that I may invest in. Ride Safe.
Cruiseman said: “Full disclosure: it’s 6 o’clock in the morning. Therefore, I have my usual Crown Royal inside this coffee cup.” 😂😂🤣🤣
Hey! 🤪
Good gawd ..i work the swing shift 3pm to 1am . Being awake at 6am sounds terrible
Looks a good bit of kit👌
Actually parking mode is almost useless if the dashcam can't send an alarm message and/or vid/pics of the moment of the alarm. Still trying to find the similar dashcam like blackvue make for cars. They can send vids to the cloud and alert message to the application☝
Super Test, thank you. But this Set is definitive an MiVue™ M760D with much better Cam, I think 🙂
Thought about one of these for a while👍.
the daytime videos are pretty good but im not sure that the night videos justify the 450.00 price tag. excellent video ty for doing it
Cruiseman since you have the main unit installed underneath your seat, does that mean that you have to take your seat off every time you want to reformat?? That will be a pain
Great video again Cruiseman. Maybe i missed something, but was this system designed and built specifically for motorcycles, or is it for other vehicles too? I ask because the length of cables would likely be longer to connect cameras from one end to the other on a car, and you didnt cut any besides the power connections. Also, some guys have multiple bikes, would there be a conflict connecting more than one system to your phone if you had 2 or more systems installed on various bikes?
I like all that data at the bottom of the screen !! save $50 going direct to Vantrue ...
Good info video. Were you able to correct the rear cam light in the dark issue? what kind and where do I find your radiator grills? I want to keep the dam bugs out as best I can. be safe.
I really like your presentation on this camera. I'm new to all this tech stuff and my main question is how long can you record? I would think it would depend on the size of the card. Would it record a 2 hour trip? Would like to hear from you or any of your followers. Thanks...
One problem with dash cams, as clearly shown at 19:54, is they record you blowing through stop signs as well!
Blowing through a residential stop sign at 5am with no traffic.
@@cruisemansgarage That's like drivers crossing double yellows when they think nobody is around. Personally, I've had instances when I've come to a stop at a stop sign, in the middle of the night, and some a-hole blows through the intersection in front of me because he thought nobody was there. Stay cautious.
There is always one and that's you.
@@cruisemansgarage Tell it to the judge.
All the features listed here as pros are what you can find on 90% of the other dashcams on the market for a fraction of the price. Sure some are really crappy, but I believe that most are good enough for the purpose of a dashcam.
Unless you can read a license plate number from a decent distance, they may not be worth as much as you think. The camera's sensor is where much of the cost is and this unit has the Sony StarVis 8M Sensor + WDR
@@cruisemansgarage Do you the this is on par / better then the INNOVV K5
Nice review. Very informative. One extra question- What size SD did you get and how many hours of video does it save before starting to write over the old?
I have a 128 gb card and I have not checked, but MANY hours of video.
So it needs wifi to useful? No storage onbiard if I don't have wifi?
6 in the morning? Wow!
Can you have longer Videos then just 1 minute, like if you like to make riding footage?
I have a question. Can the rear camera be displayed on the Goldwing dash with Apple Car Play?
Uh no. I wish.
Any issues with the g sensor being triggered all the time and recording onto the safe of the sd card . I’ve had to switch mine off . No great problem though . Very good system .
Not yet.
Can you make it so that the rear camera is the primary display
@@adamswaz4878 you could mount the front cam in the rear and vice versa
@@cruisemansgarage ok I was just wondering because I tried that with my current setup but with the front camera on the back everything was opposite
Have you had any problems with the Date/Time Stamp? I have had 2 different VanTrue dashcams (in my cars) and after a few weeks the Date/Time Stamp had to be reset EVERY time I turned the car off. So I have bought different dashcams for my cars now.
I purchased the Vantrue for my 2009 Royal Venture and had to "adjust" to place it under the seat. The video is perfect and I love the ease of setting it up. However! I was enjoying my Freedconn helmet R3 and now I can't use the video on my helmet! What did I do wrong? I realize they connect on different wifi, but surely my Freedconn should at minimal video. I have reset Ventrue and Freedconn and am slowly realizing I may never enjoy my helmet cam again. Is there something I'm missing? The wifi for the Freedconn connects, but it cannot connect to the app. My dash cam is working great! HELP!!!
real shame that there are only two! and very expensive solutions for 4k dashcams for motorcycles while cars have many many options.
this system is 4 times the price of what you can find for cars, shame :(
Could you have mounted the main unit in the trunk of the bike? Will the wires reach if you did that?
Possible. And I am considering relocating to one of the saddlebags or center pocket in the future. The only question would be if the front camera cable would reach.
Distance wifi cellelar cam?
Good video, thanks. I dont understand the reformatting thing. Do you know why or if this is necessary?
Erase the card to extend its use.
Possible. I did not know that was a thing.
Reformatting is done by pressing the middle button on the remote.
Cruiseman,
Very interested in this system. Are the cords long enough to place the main unit in the trunk on the DCT Tour or either of the side cases?
Thanks ,
Mike
I have the innovv k3 and I have the dvr mounted in the trunk. you will need to drill a decent size hole to route the wires though. I used black gorilla tape to seal the hole where the wires passed through.
I have a 2023 DCT Tour. All of the cables for the power, front camera and remote are long enough to reach the trunk. There is a grommet on the left front corner of the trunk, so you don't have to drill any holes.
@@waynebasso3791 thanks for pointing this fact out to me. However with my system, the front camera cable, the way I routed it down the right side of the bike, would not reach that grommet. Maybe if the front camera and cable are mounted and routed on the left side, it would be a good option for some.
However, I personally don’t like that location and drilled my hole closer to the speaker enclosure on the right side, thus making a smaller hole and having the cables tucked out of the way and less likely to have anything interfere with the cables. DVR is mounted above the speaker enclosure with Velcro.
Can the data stamp on the bottom be turned off?
I think so, I know the logo can be turned off. I will check.
So, does this dash cam save the files in MP4, MOV, or some other format?
MP4
Could this camera system be used to make utube video's
Sure. The front camera quality is good enough.
Is the speed shown only in miles?
I think you can choose miles or KM
Too expensive practice your head turn
Wasting time telling us why one might want a dash cam and we're literally searching and find this video because we already determined we want/need one. Wasting more time on packaging, I couldn't take it any more, bailed on watching rest of video to give this feedback.
Interesting
Too big. Small for rear
Hi cruiseman. I have been unsubscribed from your channel twice this week.
Hmmm. I wonder how that is happening.
WAY to expensive.