Pokemon and Moves With The WORST Synergy

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
  • The Pokemon series features countless different species and moves. Most of the time, a Pokemon's moveset will make a lot of sense, but not always. So today Matt and Elias are gonna take a look at moves that Pokemon can learn, even though they don't synergize well. Which Pokemon can deal one damage then immediately knock themselves out? What happens when Delibird tries to use Counter? How many cookies did Elias eat during this recording? Why is he paying Matt a dollar a month? All that and more today on MEPlaysGames.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 332

  • @EvilMEPlaysGames-p9d
    @EvilMEPlaysGames-p9d 16 днів тому +256

    They should give Chansey and Blissey Explosion

    • @Vaporstar07
      @Vaporstar07 16 днів тому +19

      *does negative damage*

    • @MalindaDeJesus
      @MalindaDeJesus 16 днів тому +25

      Camerupt should use Explosion as well.
      Camels have the same death strategy as whales in real life.

    • @ILikeSponges4
      @ILikeSponges4 16 днів тому +20

      Give them final gambit

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 16 днів тому +2

      @@ILikeSponges4 😨

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs 16 днів тому +10

      @@ILikeSponges4 actually terrifying

  • @AlexanderTelefono
    @AlexanderTelefono 16 днів тому +444

    Me pulling up my Shedinja with Double Edge, Harden, Sandstorm, Final Gambit and a Life Orb to the function:

    • @MEPlaysGames
      @MEPlaysGames  16 днів тому +87

      jail

    • @Deadlygamer2k19
      @Deadlygamer2k19 16 днів тому +55

      No jail, straight to the death penalty, no trial

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 16 днів тому +41

      @@Deadlygamer2k19 And yet Phoenix Wright would still be able to successfully defend them.

    • @rebblepebble1857
      @rebblepebble1857 16 днів тому +24

      Bred for max HP/DEF/SP.DEF, stats with max EVs in both defense stats.

    • @Streetcleanergaming
      @Streetcleanergaming 16 днів тому +8

      Welcome just try to last one turn

  • @TwiliPaladin
    @TwiliPaladin 16 днів тому +54

    "If a friendship lasts longer than 7 years, you are no longer friends. You are gay."
    One of my all-time favorite quotes.

  • @OmegasWorkshop
    @OmegasWorkshop 16 днів тому +73

    Actually, back when it was introduced in gen 5, volcarona was actually seen on some rain teams due to its access to hurricane among other moves like giga drain to keep itself going during rain, using bug STAB for major damage.

    • @chosone2
      @chosone2 16 днів тому +18

      I've seen Moltres used in rain teams for similar reasons. Shrugs off grass type attacks, and has 100% accurate stab Hurricane

    • @ryanpeters3812
      @ryanpeters3812 16 днів тому +7

      ​@@chosone2 If you are gonna do that though, Zapdos is strictly better, as 100% accurate Thunder and Hurricane makes sense (also let's Zapdos be a really good sweeper in rain)

    • @calamelli209
      @calamelli209 16 днів тому +10

      I was gonna say the same thing. Volcarona makes a great surprise check for Grass Pokemon on a rain team. It also has an insane boosting move in Quiver Dance and isn't weak to Electric moves like many similar Pokemon that might be used for a Grass resist.

    • @chosone2
      @chosone2 16 днів тому +7

      @@ryanpeters3812 Don't shoot the messenger, this strat saw genuine tournament play. In addition to Hurricane, there are some good options like Burn Up, Tailwind, Roar, Weather Ball and Roost. Now that I think about it, Burn Up and Roost is a funny combo because it basically makes Moltres typeless

    • @ryanpeters3812
      @ryanpeters3812 15 днів тому +3

      @chosone2 Ah, see, burn up changes things. It was to bait out waters, not just counter them. Typically you would send a water to defeat Moltres, since it's boosted and type positive, but burn out losing that weakness...

  • @ThisIsntAYoutuber
    @ThisIsntAYoutuber 16 днів тому +29

    10:00 Shoutout to that one Ludicolo in VGC that had Swift Swim and Sunny Day JUST TO deny the enemy rain lmao

    • @joepereiragarcia9856
      @joepereiragarcia9856 16 днів тому +4

      To be fair, as a VGC player, these strats aren't crazy. Meta is "meta" for those who can't think out of the box.

    • @MercuryA2000
      @MercuryA2000 15 днів тому

      That's super smart and super funny

  • @MystMotone101
    @MystMotone101 15 днів тому +51

    Here’s a fun one. The Lake Trio can learn the move Expanding Force, a move that gets stronger when the user is in Psychic Terrain.
    The problem is that the Terrains only affect grounded Pokemon and the only ability each member of the Lake Trio gets is Levitate, meaning that they can never get the bonus effects of Expanding Force.

    • @djdrizzy9139
      @djdrizzy9139 15 днів тому +2

      Just deactivate their ability; easy lol.

    • @Dankfort
      @Dankfort 12 днів тому

      Unless Gravity 🤣

    • @ironredsword1618
      @ironredsword1618 11 днів тому +1

      @@djdrizzy9139Why go through all of that if you can just,use a grounded psychic type,like Alakazam.

    • @djdrizzy9139
      @djdrizzy9139 11 днів тому +1

      @@ironredsword1618 Sarcasm

  • @lunar9342
    @lunar9342 16 днів тому +112

    I am thoroughly convinced that Speed is based on combat speed, and not movement speed. This would be why purrugly, a cat which irl can slap a snake out of the air mid-strike, has such high speed, meanwhile Escavalier, a clunky, awkwardly shaped metal covered pokemon, has low speed despite being able to fly from place to place a high speeds. Being the fastest runner requires completely unrelated muscle groups compared to those the fastest puncher needs.

    • @Pigggles
      @Pigggles 16 днів тому +35

      Shout out to machamp who can throw 1000 throws a second but still have a bad speed stat

    • @edsbegaming507
      @edsbegaming507 16 днів тому +22

      @@Piggglesthis immediate flawless debunk of the theory is incredible

    • @justenoughrandomness8989
      @justenoughrandomness8989 16 днів тому +2

      @@edsbegaming507 who said that speed stat being based on movement speed makes sense either?

    • @ieatvirgins
      @ieatvirgins 16 днів тому

      It's REACTION speed. Machamp can throw all the punches it wants but I'm still getting the jump on it.

    • @RubyRider-m6b
      @RubyRider-m6b 16 днів тому +2

      This doesn't explain why slaking is so fast and honestly even blastoise is pretty fast for a turtle with 2 cannons on its back

  • @000dabomb
    @000dabomb 16 днів тому +59

    Cryogonal with attract but cant learn good water type moves: 😎

    • @Heppiesmile
      @Heppiesmile 16 днів тому

      What does that have to do with attract?

    • @000dabomb
      @000dabomb 16 днів тому +4

      @@Heppiesmile cryogonal is genderless :)

    • @Heppiesmile
      @Heppiesmile 16 днів тому

      @@000dabomb i know but what do water type moves have to do with it

    • @000dabomb
      @000dabomb 16 днів тому +7

      @@Heppiesmile im pretty sure they mention moves pokemon should have, and since cryogonal is a frozen water particle, it should have water moves other than water pulse

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 15 днів тому +7

      @@Heppiesmile The point is Cryogonal's move pool sucks. It can learn a move it literally cannot use, and doesn't have any type coverage for its most common weakness.

  • @StarkidPhil
    @StarkidPhil 16 днів тому +117

    6:40 I mean, still platonic couple goals

    • @greenking9124
      @greenking9124 15 днів тому +2

      So the ship isn’t ruined

    • @StarkidPhil
      @StarkidPhil 15 днів тому +2

      @@greenking9124 the ship is sailing

  • @DarthMolgy
    @DarthMolgy 16 днів тому +12

    Pimpnite taught me that Final Gambit on Shedinja actually has a niche but surprisingly good use specifically in SwSh: when Dynamaxing, FG turns into a very powerful physical Max Knuckle. Meaning if you play your cards right, you can get up to three attack boosts on Shedinja while also dealing damage.

    • @RyanReta97
      @RyanReta97 4 дні тому

      Hmmmm, sounds fun, BRB gonna restart shield and try thus out

  • @indigofenix00
    @indigofenix00 15 днів тому +6

    Body Press from Jigglypuff or Wailord is like a giant fluffy pillow trying to crush you to death

  • @bigpoggers6507
    @bigpoggers6507 15 днів тому +4

    You aren't ready for my Choice Specs Synchronoise Umbreon...

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 15 днів тому

      Better: Trick + Ring Target + Synchronoise
      Wait, can Umbreon even learn Trick/Switcheroo?
      EDIT: It can't.

  • @tytool2385
    @tytool2385 16 днів тому +11

    Me pulling out the synchronoise Umbreon...

  • @shadowwriter329
    @shadowwriter329 16 днів тому +8

    For Chansey and Blissey, I believe their physical moves were before the physical special split in gen 4, where the type determines if it is physical or special. So the punches from gen 1-3 were all technically special as were other moves they had.

    • @poryzonegames942
      @poryzonegames942 14 днів тому +1

      But even in gen 2 and 3, they had access to fighting and normal type moves as well as shadow ball

  • @LeifMjelve-w1g
    @LeifMjelve-w1g 16 днів тому +23

    Why does Cosmoem learn cosmic power if the only other thing it can do is teleport, switching it out?

  • @josecorzo5517
    @josecorzo5517 16 днів тому +16

    7:20
    Ultra beast rights are Pokemon rights

  • @Real21Gamer
    @Real21Gamer 15 днів тому +2

    Fun Fact: Top players actually used Volcarona on Gen 5 OU Rain Teams. Just regular Quiver Dance with Hurricane and a Rain Boosted HP Water for Heatran and Sand Abusers was actually pretty good.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 15 днів тому +7

    What the heck were they smoking when they came up with Gyro Ball? Giving it to Electrode is one thing (after all, it is LITERALLY a ball), but why does the move described as SPINNING AT HIGH SPEEDS only work well with _slow_ Pokemon? It genuinely feels like Gyro Ball was supposed to be just like Electro Ball, but they goofed and reversed its effect or something. XD

    • @lipika2841
      @lipika2841 14 днів тому +2

      But here's the thing, Gyro Ball is move from a type that r typically slow & bulky. Its fastest Steel user is currently Iron Treads, second to Mega Metagross. While its best speediest non-Steel users are between Minior & Scolipede who're able to compliment their Speed & Atk boosts through Shell Smash & Speed Boost + Swords Dance respectively. & it's applicable users only go down from there IF it was a variant of Electro Ball instead of being the total opposite. In comparison, the slow users are way plentiful than the speeder ones, examples of which include Ferrothorn, Steelix, Shuckle (for Power Trick gimmick), Guzzlord.
      Sorry for the whole ass analytical paragraph if that's not what you wanted as a reply tho. 😅

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 14 днів тому +1

      @@lipika2841 Fair point

  • @Jlaps941
    @Jlaps941 15 днів тому +3

    I know everyone one knows it at this point, and is more a victim of circumstance because it’s pre-evo is the one who learns it and it’s split-evos can use it effectively, but Umbreon being able to know Synchronoise. It’s actually just like Shedinja since Ninjask can get some use out of final gambit and the other Eeveelutions can at least use Synchronoise at all, unlike Shedinja and Umbreon.

  • @AceAviations2
    @AceAviations2 15 днів тому +4

    Apparently in Gen3 OU Tyranitar would sometimes run Rain Dance, as counter-intuitive as this may sound it has it's uses. Remember that weather setup by abilities prior to gen 6 didn't run out, so if your team wasn't the biggest fan of sand but needed a Tyranitar (because it was kind of the king of Gen3 not unlike Snorlax in the previous gen, but not as generation-warping), clearing up your own Sandstorm can be useful. It's definitely niche, but there is some value in it.
    Also Volcarona in particular gets Hurricane, which becomes perfectly accurate in the rain, it's actually seen legitimate use on Rain teams as a counter to Grass types that REALLY don't want to take hits from it, a perfectly accurate Hurricane after a Quiver Dance. That and it counters sun because you can turn your opponent's weather against them. So it getting Rain Dance in particular isn't exactly terrible, I mean it doesn't make it's CRIPPLING weakness to Stealth Rocks/the Rock Type any worse. Probably wouldn't run it itself and rather rely on a partner.

  • @StarkidPhil
    @StarkidPhil 16 днів тому +38

    Already predicting Synchronoise Umbreon

    • @MEPlaysGames
      @MEPlaysGames  16 днів тому +16

      Absolutely in the spirit of this video you’re right, but I decided not to include it for a couple reasons. For one, I didn’t want to do too many examples that have been featured in previous shorts, and the script was getting pretty long, so we’re saving that one for a part 2

    • @ZooroYTdone
      @ZooroYTdone 16 днів тому +3

      @@MEPlaysGamesdidn’t you do a short about flapple with heavy slam before this?

    • @MEPlaysGames
      @MEPlaysGames  16 днів тому +5

      Yeah, I figured that including a few from our shorts would be fine, because not everybody watches both of our video formats

  • @zachpro5475
    @zachpro5475 16 днів тому +22

    Elias has diabetes now

  • @PorygonBugado
    @PorygonBugado 16 днів тому +18

    Synchronoise Umbreon

  • @vojtech_ledvinka
    @vojtech_ledvinka 16 днів тому +3

    7:49 My favorite pokémon 😍🥰🥰🥰
    (I love happiny, I have it on my case on my phone)

  • @bastianokamiro5421
    @bastianokamiro5421 15 днів тому +3

    I always had the theory that Vikabolt was supposed to be WAY faster, but devs forgot to heavily update his speed from charjabug state

  • @tytool2385
    @tytool2385 16 днів тому +5

    Fun fact I used a counter Delibird to defeat a very difficult fight in pokemon rejuvenation... it did it's trick perfectly.

  • @zlectricute1906
    @zlectricute1906 16 днів тому +3

    Volcarona knowing rain dance isn’t as bad once you realize that it also gets hurricane

    • @Naito115
      @Naito115 12 днів тому +1

      Also walls Grass types with its typing and Bug Buzz

  • @wootmasterzorsx
    @wootmasterzorsx 15 днів тому +2

    Shout outs to Togedemaru in base Sun and Moon, where the only Steel STAB it got was Gyro Ball. On a 96 base speed Pokémon. At least it got Iron Head later in USUM.
    Also, lighter example since they moves would be good in doubles and even as set up for single battles, I’m sure, but Mud Sport and Water Sport mostly being moves learned by Ground and Water types, who already are immune to or resist Electric and Fire types.

  • @quiverdancervolca
    @quiverdancervolca 15 днів тому +2

    Nice to see you acknowledged the overpowering Rain Dance Gallade

    • @MEPlaysGames
      @MEPlaysGames  15 днів тому +2

      It’s gonna make waves one day just you wait

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 15 днів тому +1

      "Your tactics confuse and frighten me, sire."

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 16 днів тому +3

    I think it’s because of the anime Cocoon Pokémon in the anime are often depicted as being unable to attack or anything that’s probably what made Elias think that.

    • @MEPlaysGames
      @MEPlaysGames  16 днів тому +3

      I think it’s more likely the fact that Kakuna and Metapod only learn Harden by level up, so that’s the only move they can have in the wild

    • @awesomeocelot7475
      @awesomeocelot7475 15 днів тому +3

      @@MEPlaysGames yeah that too.

    • @matthewkuscienko4616
      @matthewkuscienko4616 15 днів тому +1

      It doesn't help that you only have one of those Pokemon for only a few levels before they evolve, anyways, so you won't be using them for long if you do decide to raise one. Personally, I blame the Metapod harden meme war from episode 4 of the original series

  • @Zachaboyman
    @Zachaboyman 15 днів тому +1

    Elias saying 'We have a pretty big lake for you to [drown me] in' with a mouth full of cookie is peak

  • @KyogresHideout_Vegito2121
    @KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 15 днів тому +4

    Pretty sure some of Chansey & Blissey's physical moves such as the elemental punches are leftovers from gens 1-3 when physical or special was based on move type rather than each individual move. Same reason why Ampharos also has the punches.

    • @poryzonegames942
      @poryzonegames942 14 днів тому +1

      Ampharos learns both physical and special moves like most Pokemon and Chansey could learn several moves from physical types in gen 2 and 3, including normal type stab moves

  • @WTPokemonToons-rk7ci
    @WTPokemonToons-rk7ci 15 днів тому +2

    The key is to experiment and find what works best for you.

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 16 днів тому +4

    You know what until you showed that comment I just saw you as 2 best friends now I can totally see the Dynamic of a relationship between you 2 who knows what the future holds?

  • @EclipseKirby
    @EclipseKirby 16 днів тому +2

    On a semi-related note, Metagross gets Light Metal as its hidden ability. On some mons, halving your weight has the fringe use case of lowering the damage you take from things like Low Kick. However, Metagross is so heavy that it still takes max damage from those moves after its weight is halved. Very poor synergy

    • @Bruh_idk69lul
      @Bruh_idk69lul 15 днів тому +1

      Me when I give my Light Metal Metagross a Float Stone to reduce the damage from 120BP to 100BP:

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 15 днів тому

      @@Bruh_idk69lul watch it make a guaranteed K.O into a range

  • @YourButHed
    @YourButHed 16 днів тому +11

    Are we sure they’re not dating?

    • @MEPlaysGames
      @MEPlaysGames  16 днів тому +5

      Well Elias and I are pretty certain we’re not at least

    • @pmahcgop2.0
      @pmahcgop2.0 16 днів тому +5

      @@MEPlaysGamesYou guys should go on a date

    • @chivix4949
      @chivix4949 16 днів тому +1

      @@MEPlaysGames Atleast you sound like head over heels over Elias

    • @OctopussInPants10min
      @OctopussInPants10min 15 днів тому +1

      Click it and ship it 😍

  • @Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024
    @Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1024 15 днів тому +1

    Actually being 1% sugar is extremely normal, it's probably the most normal percentage for sugar composition.

  • @gladoseon4117
    @gladoseon4117 15 днів тому +1

    Here’s one for ya, and it’s another for Shedinja. Shedinja can learn Rest and Substitute, just like almost any other Pokémon. However, in order for Shedinja to use Rest, it needs to have less than 1 HP, and in order for it to use Substitute, it needs to have HP that it can sacrifice to set up the Substitute. Because of this, both moves will always fail, and unlike Final Gambit and Sandstorm, it’s completely impossible to make any use of these moves, whereas with Final Gambit, it can at least be used to break a Focus Sash or Sturdy, and Sandstorm could set up sand for the rest of your party and switch you out on the same turn.

  • @gabrielalves303
    @gabrielalves303 15 днів тому +1

    Fun fact, most pokemon go players know that blissey gets wild charge because for some reason thats the move it got on its community day

  • @Searqq
    @Searqq 16 днів тому +4

    Volcarona learns Hurricane tho

  • @MartyrPandaGaming
    @MartyrPandaGaming 15 днів тому +1

    There is a Volcorona set that is, rarely but sometimes, used on Rain Teams. It's usually sloted in for a niche reason and the most common of those is for Fighting Coverage, of all things. The bug gets access to Hurricane. More than that, you can opt not to set the rain with it, if you're running a Fire Attack over Bug Buzz. You could run both, but you're usually giving up one, typically the Fire attack, for Quiver Dance options.
    It has been even better in Gen 9 though, as with Water Tera and Tera Blast, it makes it's Fire typing moot. Again, though, this is still a niche pick, even with Tera. It's really only an option when Fighting is heavier in a meta and you lose the Resist after using Tera, unless you opt for a Flying variant. In that case, you can drop Tera Blast and a Fire Attack or Bug Buzz, but you're also back to having no direct damage boost from Rain with that set up as well.

  • @PillzmansFox
    @PillzmansFox 15 днів тому +2

    Oh no, acrobatics can't be used on mega sets, a form you need a certain item, it's not like you're putting a mega on your team, you're putting a pokemon that CAN mega evolve, if you put acrobatics on a pokemon set you plan on mega evolving you're an idiot, or you know, don't use a mega stone.
    That's like saying taunt is a bad move because you put on an assault vest.

    • @matthewkuscienko4616
      @matthewkuscienko4616 15 днів тому +1

      It's not that they are saying that acrobatics itself is a bad move, just that it's not a good option for a Pokemon that can't get rid of it's held item, especially given as the move only has a base power of 55 if the user is holding an item. Again, it's not a bad move, just not a good choice for those Pokemon specifically

  • @IslamMozaahe
    @IslamMozaahe 16 днів тому +2

    Electric type Pokemon with levitate: Im invisible

    • @edgargaebolg9307
      @edgargaebolg9307 15 днів тому +1

      Mold Breaker Excadrill: Earthquake goes brrrrr

    • @IslamMozaahe
      @IslamMozaahe 15 днів тому

      @@edgargaebolg9307 when Im and my friend play Pokemon sun and moon WiFi battle he said I have elektross and You can't do nothing to me so I destroy he team with dragon dance mold breaker haxorus

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 15 днів тому +1

      @@edgargaebolg9307 Magnet Rise go BURRRRR

  • @robxholicfoxyfan8552
    @robxholicfoxyfan8552 15 днів тому +1

    Egg Bomb is abysmal, too, on Chansey and Blissey. Like it's one of their and Exeggcutor's signature moves but it's worthless because the move sucks and two of the three main users have no attack to speak of.

  • @Hamtaijin-ud2li
    @Hamtaijin-ud2li 12 днів тому

    Back in gen 8, I realized heatmor can learn rain dance and made him the lead for my rain team. No one ever expected it and it was hilarious to see people reactions when playing on showdown

  • @elijosc1963
    @elijosc1963 15 днів тому +1

    9:41 funny you say Talonflame as it is possibly one of the few fire types that could potentially somewhat effectively use the rain offensively with gale wings hurricanes. It was kind of a meme iirc.

  • @DarsanUchiha
    @DarsanUchiha 15 днів тому +1

    Volcarona gets Hurricane, so Rain Dance isn’t completely useless to it

  • @matigamer329
    @matigamer329 14 днів тому +1

    I mean Volcarona learns Hurricane which can’t miss in rain and also rain dance but still.

  • @keraeduardo
    @keraeduardo 12 днів тому

    This is a heavily underrated channel. Keep the good work!

  • @Haventdecidedyet-zg2hn
    @Haventdecidedyet-zg2hn 6 днів тому

    0:44 GYRO!? STEEL!!?? BALL?!!!!! 🏇🥎🇺🇸🌀 *IT'S ALL A REFERENCE!!!!!*

  • @patrickchipman8652
    @patrickchipman8652 16 днів тому

    commenting for the algorithm gods
    love you, matt and elias

  • @saiyan4414
    @saiyan4414 15 днів тому

    A water type learning sunny day means you're screwed if there is a grass type that knows solar beam.

  • @vaerix0
    @vaerix0 14 днів тому

    It will always baffle me how many moves in this series depend on the *difference* between opposing stats, like, why isn't gyro ball dependent on how slow your pokemon is in a vacuum, not in comparison?

  • @rpgkingx3629
    @rpgkingx3629 12 днів тому

    “Pokemon with Rock Head can learn recoil moves”
    Explain Aerodactyl

  • @ミア-n2d
    @ミア-n2d 16 днів тому +1

    can i just say that slaking with hyper beam in gen 3 was so relaxing since normal was physical in gen 3. completely off topic but yea

  • @sterling8389
    @sterling8389 14 днів тому

    Vikavolt is based on a railgun, which notirously takes a while to get to full power, which is why i think its base speed is so low. It doesnt attack very quickly but it can move quickly.

  • @zinniaq3020
    @zinniaq3020 16 днів тому +1

    Fun fact: Blissey’s community day move in Pokémon Go is Wild Charge which has absolutely no synergy with it at all in the game

  • @tylerbrown278
    @tylerbrown278 15 днів тому +1

    Per the thumbnail, Volcorona actually was used on some rain teams in Generation 5 competitive. It uses Hurricane and Hidden Power Water with Quiver Dance

  • @savemeimanobodylostonline4279
    @savemeimanobodylostonline4279 13 днів тому

    Speaking of Sunny Day, Toxicroak can learn it. One of its abilities is Dry Skin. Which causes them to lose HP in Sun.

  • @FirstnameLastname-bp2pg
    @FirstnameLastname-bp2pg 16 днів тому +2

    Watching this while myself eating a foot-long Subway cookie.

  • @superzenmodeman
    @superzenmodeman 16 днів тому +1

    Worth noting that sometimes specifically Fire/Flying types with Hurricane have been used on rain teams. Most notably Moltres which has had success on rain in VGC, and in some unconventional singles formats such as MonoColor.

  • @dnd1016
    @dnd1016 15 днів тому +1

    Volcarona is actually decent on Rain teams as a counter to Grass types
    also Machamp can learn a few special moves and Alakazam can learn a few Physicla moves

    • @robertlupa8273
      @robertlupa8273 15 днів тому

      Machamp learns Fire Blast while Alakazam learns Dig. Gotta use those spoons for something :P

    • @dnd1016
      @dnd1016 15 днів тому +1

      Machamp also learns Flame thrower and Mudslap
      Alakazam can learn all the elemental punches (which makes sense because they used to be Special attacks) and Iron Tail

  • @BthIX
    @BthIX 11 днів тому +1

    Have Matt and Elias explored eachother's bodies?

    • @MEPlaysGames
      @MEPlaysGames  11 днів тому

      no, thanks for asking

    • @BthIX
      @BthIX 10 днів тому

      @MEPlaysGames will they consider explore each other in the future?

  • @koriandervermillion1945
    @koriandervermillion1945 15 днів тому

    These couple of friends over 10 years are now my new OTP. Couple goals ✨️

  • @strawzulusansundertalehorr7624
    @strawzulusansundertalehorr7624 16 днів тому +1

    Sandstorm Shedinja with safety goggles:

  • @danielmonteiro7781
    @danielmonteiro7781 16 днів тому +1

    I think that chansey and blissey learning those physical moves made sense when they didnt have the special defense and special attack split
    The elemental punches were all special and so was their special stat so they could do some damage

    • @danielvicol3992
      @danielvicol3992 16 днів тому +1

      The Special stat splitting in two happened in Gen 2. It added special attack and special defense based on the Pokémon's previous special stat.
      The physical/special split happened in Gen 4. Before it moves were fixed into physical or special depending on the type of the move. All Ice Fire and Electric type moves were special and so their elemental punches were also special.

  • @kurenian
    @kurenian 16 днів тому +1

    Volcarona actually had some placement on rain teams in the permarain of BW OU because of Hurricane getting 100% accuracy in rain.

  • @costby1105
    @costby1105 15 днів тому

    A lot of those water types that learn Sunny Day also learn fire type attacks.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 15 днів тому

      yeah Gyarados can learn a lot of fire type moves for some reason. even though the only flying-type physical move it can learn is Bounce.

  • @SoulBoundSagaDX
    @SoulBoundSagaDX 16 днів тому +2

    No guard Golurk is good but iron fist Golurk with gravity (1.67x accuracy boost) is a fun set. 85% accuracy (90 after wide lens) 120bp dynamic punch is pure fun, and pairs well with stomping tantrum. The last move I’ll usually use drain punch for heals or an elemental punch for coverage. It’s a fun set try it out sometime

  • @Missiletainn
    @Missiletainn 16 днів тому

    If your Shedinja is holding Safety Goggles it won't be damaged by Sandstorm, or hail

  • @cjlite0210
    @cjlite0210 15 днів тому

    Literally the only time any Water type would want Sunny Day would be Walking Wake with Protosynthesis and Hydro Steam

  • @IslamMozaahe
    @IslamMozaahe 16 днів тому +1

    Absolutely The best strategy ever

  • @NottheuserAVeryNormalHuman
    @NottheuserAVeryNormalHuman 14 днів тому +1

    Me pulling up with a magnet rise, air balloon rotom fan

  • @Tripledeluxer
    @Tripledeluxer 14 днів тому

    Groudon, kyogre and rayqyaza controlling the weather
    Corsola, Furret and golduck controlling the weather...

  • @MaximeLafreniere433
    @MaximeLafreniere433 6 днів тому

    I remember hearing somewhere I while ago that Voltorb and Electrode deal the same damage with Gyro Ball

  • @gavinaaric
    @gavinaaric 16 днів тому +2

    Wasn’t able to watch this early good video though!

  • @metleon
    @metleon 15 днів тому

    Volcarona was actually a pretty good Pokemon for Rain teams back in Gen 5. Hurricane becomes 100% accurate in Rain, so it and Bug Buzz were its main attacking moves. And despite being nerfed by the rain, Fire Blast was still being run on it. A SE Fire Blast was still 180 base power in the Rain thanks to STAB, and it completely destroyed Ferrothorn.
    Ferrothorn was a big problem for Rain Teams otherwise, since it resists Water and is neutral to Ice. Toxicroaks Fighting moves would hit it SE, but it still couldn't exactly switch into a Gyro Ball.

  • @Submissive-Soul
    @Submissive-Soul 16 днів тому +1

    magnet rise would also cancel mold breaker type abilities but wasting a move slot on that unless the meta had a mold breaker pokemon would be foolish

  • @calebehhh-jx7ic
    @calebehhh-jx7ic 16 днів тому +2

    Why are all of my favorite poketubers posting all in one day?

  • @JoshuaDDales
    @JoshuaDDales 13 днів тому

    Tbh, Sunny Day on Water-Types work with the move Solar Beam.

  • @tefnutofhoney2832
    @tefnutofhoney2832 15 днів тому

    You did give off couple vibes lmao, this is a good thing.
    Also, how about sunny day on parasect with dry skin?

  • @ShursGarden
    @ShursGarden 15 днів тому

    Umbreon can learn Synchronoise. That's the most anti-synergistic move I can think of.

  • @mettatonex7221
    @mettatonex7221 16 днів тому +2

    Do you have any leftover cookies? Can I have one?

  • @eliasstenbak5689
    @eliasstenbak5689 16 днів тому +2

    Hi Matt's evil twin mike

  • @MaxwellTukeion-s4v
    @MaxwellTukeion-s4v 11 днів тому

    Y'all are definitely a couple yalls synergy is insane 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Churdizard
    @Churdizard 14 днів тому

    I like to think of the speed stat as combat speed, not actual movement speed like running and flying etc.

  • @user-ug8db3pz6o
    @user-ug8db3pz6o 16 днів тому +1

    Sunny Day powers up many grass types, so it's still dangerous for waters to use.

    • @MEPlaysGames
      @MEPlaysGames  16 днів тому +1

      Sure, but Sunny Day helping fire types is more universal since it powers up their STABs. Grass types need specific tools like Chlorophyll, Solar Power, or Solar Beam/Blade to take advantage of the sun. If your opponent has a grass type and their team isn’t built around sun, chances are they don’t have those resources handy. Sunny Day is still a terrible move to use on a water type, but it could be worse

    • @peet-janissen5838
      @peet-janissen5838 16 днів тому

      ​@@MEPlaysGameswalking wake entered the chat

  • @BenjaminPriddy-rj5yy
    @BenjaminPriddy-rj5yy 4 дні тому

    Genderless Pokemon with Attract do absolutely nothing when using it, since there's no "opposite" of genderless.

  • @CashoutRenny224
    @CashoutRenny224 6 днів тому

    How about protect Garbodor. First it can’t even protect itself from any hate. And two I’m still mad because different animals keep knocking my trash down

  • @guitox0612
    @guitox0612 14 днів тому

    For real for real, first time watch and I also thought might be a couple

  • @mashonem
    @mashonem День тому

    Technician Roserade after Hidden Power got Dexit’d

  • @pi_xi
    @pi_xi 10 днів тому

    Volcarona can learn Hurricane and Fire moves hit it normal effective. Rain Dance is actually a viable option.

  • @torchilicho
    @torchilicho 15 днів тому

    I actually have a shedija with final gambit because i thought it was based on the percentage of hp. Like i thought final gambit would do 100% hp to the opponent every time if shedija used it.

    • @benjaminmargulies1853
      @benjaminmargulies1853 15 днів тому

      hack shedinja to give it 999hp with a cheating device and 999hp damage final gambit

  • @calamitoso0066
    @calamitoso0066 16 днів тому

    Remember that volcarona can learn hurricane.

    • @trgtheredghost6528
      @trgtheredghost6528 15 днів тому +1

      Could be surprisingly good in rain teams because of Hurricane. Not to mention its 4x resistance to grass

  • @ChampionAzure
    @ChampionAzure 15 днів тому

    surprised there were no Pokémon with damp that learn explosion on this list

  • @thousandyardgavri2785
    @thousandyardgavri2785 16 днів тому

    I trolled with Focus punch alakazam once😂
    But then I used memento on gardevoir
    And then cosmic power/stored power/charge beam with shadow tag gothitelle.

  • @tally_ish
    @tally_ish 11 днів тому

    Umbreon learning Synchronoise

  • @hypphen
    @hypphen 16 днів тому

    this guy has clearly never seen the absurdity that is hurricane volcarona on rain in gen 5 ou

  • @DefectiveLotus
    @DefectiveLotus 15 днів тому

    Shedinja in a double battle wth Magearna would work well with Sandstorm, boosting Magearnas Sp.def by weather and raising Sp.Attack with its Ability.

  • @Vaporstar07
    @Vaporstar07 16 днів тому +4

    My favorite set for trolling has to be Screens Sandy Shocks with Aurora Veil Ninetales. Yes, Sandy Shocks learns Light Screen and Reflect.