The funny thing is Kalos Incineroar would probably be inferior in almost every way comparatively. Fire/Dark is very good for incin, most other type combos would be worse. It could lose access to Parting Shot & Knock Off (possibly). It's stat spread would probably get worse. And obviously, no intimidate. Unless they decide that Incineroar needs to be a fire/fairy with 150 special attack (and 10 attack) and pixelate as an ability.
Where'd you learn that? The only leak I found was saying Snivy, Torchic, and Totodile were going to be the starters and I don't even believe that since I doubt they would use starters from the same generations as the starters in Arceus.
@@Glitch_Man42 I honestly think that a fire/fighting type wouldn't be that bad, if you give him more hp and change intimidate for an ability like "veteran" that doubles his defenses against pokemons that are set up, or some sort of strange type of sturdy like "willpower" where the pokemon can't faint the turn it goes in, like a free endure
Beedril had to use another pokemon, Meowscarada. SImply because Meowscarada would adapt to Spidopses Focus Sash by turning into an Ice type and clicking Triple Axel.
Spideops: "Something's wrong. I suddenly wanted to deny and overturn the poke trainer that denied me the right to be in OU, and it's Ubbers. To assert myself, I did something I ussualy don't. From that moment, I had already lost."
Did I just watch a level 100 ledian use a SUPER EFFECTIVE MOVE on a pokemon which is nearly 40 LEVELS LOWER AND NOT EVEN DO 3 QUARTERS. Nintendo please give ledian a buff.
(Trubbish) Show me a trash Pokémon. (Garbodor) I mean a REAL trash Pokémon. (Ledian) Perfection. But seriously, it looks really cool, it shouldn’t be so bad.
Personally, I would like more speed/evasion and utility punches rather than just a plain damage boost. I always liked the punch that confuses the opponent, and by now its part of it's identity that it can hardly punch anything.
I had a friend and we had an argument over Beedrill back in college, and out of spite always made it a point to have a Hall of Fame team with a Beedrill
@@howard7318 a reference to a series by youtuber "JelloApocalypse" on pokemon XD gale of darkness, genuenly, if you want a better explation watch dogs in love 2 and 3, both are hilarious videos
The most memorable thing about Grapploct is when each of us realized he's not a water-type. That misled type assumption is the only noteworthy thing to its name.
It doesn't surprise me that Fluttermane got outclassed by it's present forms, Misdreavus and Mismagius. It's similar to that of Dusknoir and Dusclops/Duskull
You left Skill Swap off the list of support moves that Spinda can use, and with its amazing ability of Contrary, it can pull off some really funny stuff in doubles. Send it out alongside Arcanine, whose Intimidate lowers the foes' Attack by one stage, then Skill Swap with it to give it Contrary and take Intimidate on Spinda, which activates it again. Then have Arcanine start spamming Close Combat and Overheat. And if Spinda somehow survives long enough, you can rob an opponent of their own strong ability and replace it with Intimidate...which thanks to Contrary now _raises_ Arcanine's attack! "Spindaswap" is a hilarious way to turn another of your Pokémon into a sweeper.
Bro I was fully expecting a dishonourable mention for Glaceon because people bang on about how bad it is despite it being my favourite of the eveelutions. As a rule anytime I play Platinum I've got a Glaceon going to beat up Cynthia's Garchomp and more often than not just plain sweeping the E4.
I never heard Audino described as "Summer Body Chansey" and now that I have, I have never heard a more perfect description for that weird rabbit thing.
"Spinda has a Batman utility belt, but Castform was given the keys to the United States armory...without any of the skills to use anything in there." I wheezed oh my God. Great job with this vid! Please show us the Wo-Chien plush when you get it lol
Luvdisc has more utility (in icy wind and charm) and due to its higher speed(especially with a 97 speed under rain with swift swim)it could set it up more reliable than castform which has just attacking moves from bad offenses, castform does get tailwind but usually ur not benefiting that much as castform usually goes after his partner (due to its terrible speed of 70) meaning ur not gonna benefit in that turn from the tailwind effects due to the gen 8 dynamic speed change. As for Unown vs Ledian, yeah I agree unown should take the spot.
Remember lovedisc is broken in smogon singles since your opponent will go into such a long laughing fit from seeing it on team preview that they will time out
@@mpregsonic5874 im sorry but that is the most gimmicky thing ive ever heard of. Your using a precious team slot to add a pokemon that does nothing outside of that one move. And i understand its painfull if you dont expect it but if you do its super easy to shut down. Your better of having a pokemon that can speed control or just use a seperate swift swim user. And to top it all of it cant even work with primal kyogre
@@finnvaneekelen7740Luvdisc is good in randbats with Substitute Surf Whirlpool and Endeavor. Pretty much guarantees a kill if the opponent doesn't have a ghost type
9:30. Ferrothorn is supposed to be holding on to the ceiling. It’s mentioned in a few dex entries that hanging out on cave ceilings is their natural habitat
Moxie: I feel like I'm missing something... Fan: If you forgot then it wasn't important. Moxie: I guess you're right. Grapploct watching everybody else be ranked:
So I've had a castform rework brewing since basically gen 5: 1) add sandstorm form and give each weather form a modified stat spread (keep the 420 BST, but raise and lower to match the type). 2) give them a hidden ability called "Weather Report" where it automatically sets the weather based on its held weather stone. Basically remove the need to waste a turn activating its gimmick and let it jump straight into the game, like how Imposter fixed Ditto's major flaw. Let my guy go crazy!
lol i'd say go with Weather Report + a 30% buff to non-Atk stats in weather - leaving 252+ Castform a single point faster than stuff like Munkidori, lets it hit quite hard in Sun/Rain and allows it to be super bulky in Snow/Sand
Weather report like you said, but it sets the weather until weather change (exactlt how weather-setting abilities used to work), but keep its base stats garbage. This would give Castform a special lollipop dance, without making it an otherwise good Pokemon.
If gamefreak were to do this, they'd probably make this new ability a sidegrade, or at least not a direct upgrade to forecast. Maybe this version prevents castform from using weather variants not tied to their funny rock, regardless of how much the weather changes + ability does literally nothing if another item is used, so it's a token sidegrade but effective upgrade
Aaaah, my beloved gen 1. A generation where: There's only a single Dragon type evolution line, home to that gen's pseudo-legendary, Dragonite, with the existence of a single dragon type move, dragon rage, which has... Fixed damage, so no dragon stab; A place where bug types are so laughable that Psychic types have basically no weaknesses and can swipe the entire game (you get Abra early on) because... "Special" is a single stat for both SpAtk and SpDef, so special attackers get an enormous bulk in SpDef stat too; Focus Energy actually lowers your crit chance; Crit chance is calculated via speed difference, so a fast Pokémon will be a crit machine; Guaranteed hits can fail 1/256 of the times; And being paralyzed was actually a meta strat. Truly, one of the generations of all time. Today I just finished the pokedex for the first time via the mew exploit.
"My quote was referring to Silver mistreating his Pokemon, it wasn't intended to belittle the idea of metagames." -Karen, probably Edit: wow, that's a lot of toxic casuals 'um aykcsually-'ing this post. I'm sure they have plenty of evidence of Gamefreak being anti-metagame over the years besides this, and have _totally not_ embraced the competitive scene with an official competitive format or anything. They've _definitely not_ made another character in a game like ORAS who explicitly says that sometimes you need to give up on using your favorites in order to win or anything. There's no wrong way to enjoy games. Let competitive players enjoy themselves.
@@josephbulkin9222 Competitive battles, ladder play, and VGC is how many people enjoy playing the game. Games are made to be enjoyed. You aren't the fun police, there isn't a "wrong" way to enjoy playing a game. Cry.
Next video "best glow up" where older mons get a different type or evolution ability etc that made them amazing Like marill going from bad to ok with huge power to amazing with the fairy type
During one of the earlier VGC regulations of SV, I used a team that starred Spidops and Hatterene. Turn 1, Spidops would protect while Hat would use trick room. Turn Turn 2, Hat would use skill swap and give the opposing Pokemon magic bounce, then Spidops would use sticky web to put the web on its own side.Turns 3 and up, Kingambit & Wigglytuff cleaned up hard. The funny thing about this team is that Spidops was actually the best sticky webber for the job. It was the only bug that was slower than Hatterene in trick room with access to sticky webs, and insomnia made it a perfect anti-lead for Amoonguss.
“Truly skilled trainers can bring out the full potential in any Pokémon. Doesn’t mean Parasect is suddenly good, but at least you’re using it effectively now.” -What Karen probably meant (Also yes that is a personal example lol. Parasect is my favorite Kanto mon) Also, man, Spidops is such an unfortunate case. If it had the same bst as Lokix it could at least be respectable. 46 more points could do wonders for it. Pure Bug is a surprisingly decent defensive type as well; 3 weaknesses and 3 resistances sounds pretty meh, but being able to resist Fighting and Ground is a pretty big deal considering Urshifu and Lando.
@j.b.5422 competitive was barely a thing back then, I think you're the one that's delusional because you're applying a sentiment that didn't even exist
8:12 for Castform they could add a changing stat spread depending on weather form. An Atk, a SpAtk, a Def and a SpDef form - whilst adding a sand form to get 4 total. For each form the opposite stats get halved and added on the corresponding stat + either hp or speed
Kinda surprised Unown didn't win the gen 2 slot. That guy was made terrible and has no sort of interesting quirk to make it viable. It was just thrown in as a weird gimmick with no real viability for anything.
Unown's only move is hidden power. Guess what move hasn't been programmed into the game since gen 8. You gotta cut Unown some slack, he can't be the worst pokemon if he literally doesn't exist.
Unown's barely a Pokemon, and shouldn't really be judged by this criteria. they're just little letter guys, they're not really supposed to fight! also the purpose of Unown is to randomly come in clutch in a HGSS Nuzlucke, as we all know.
@@dvillines26 Fair point, but if we're considering *all* gen 2 pokemon for this. Unown would have to at least be mentioned as it is a pokemon who was designed. Even if that design was not for it to be a fighter.
@@ooskks6370 He picked Beedrill over Magikarp for worst Gen 1 Pokemon, I wouldn't give him too much credit here. Unown is definitely the worst Pokemon out of Gen 2.
My part that likes scizor says i like competitive pokémon My part that likes dachsbun makes me realize how much the mons i like arent high tier in decades Edit: I KNOW DACHSBUN IS GOOD ON UBERS FOR KORAIDON STOP SAYING IT
5:14 Ledian holds such a special place in my heart for being an early game Pokémon in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness. I will forever love them (even if they're supremely weak)
1:19 I feel like this part gets it a little wrong? I've seen people clear champions with Magikarp and a Ledian, so in that respect i do think anything is possible when you're a good trainer who's good at strategizing. I dunno
As a member of the Spidops Operatives, I present to you these 2 calcs: Also, Spidops completely walls and forces Ogerpon out, so take that how you will. 252+ Atk Life Orb Stakeout Spidops First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 300-355 (93.4 - 110.5%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Stakeout Spidops First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 348-409 (108.4 - 127.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO With spikes support from H!Samurott Spidops can take over the world Edit: just experienced this interesting calc earlier 252+ Atk Choice Band Stakeout Spidops First Impression vs. 252 HP / 16 Def Slowking-Galar: 408-481 (103.5 - 122%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ Atk Life Orb Stakeout Spidops First Impression vs. 252 HP / 16 Def Slowking-Galar: 355-419 (90.1 - 106.3%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO vs inferior Lokix 252+ Atk Choice Band Lokix First Impression vs. 252 HP / 16 Def Slowking-Galar: 241-285 (61.1 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
@@chardawg5911 the calcs would beg to differ 252+ Atk Choice Band Lokix First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 204-241 (63.5 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
@victorlinares4137 someone who doesn't want to use tera to prevent any one of the following from dying/taking significant damage: Darkrai, DeoxysSp., Meowscarada, Rillaboom, Roaring Moon, H!Samurott, Weavile, Ting-Lu, Ogerpon Water Now, of course, logically speaking you would rather switch into Gouging Fire, Great Tusk or a flying check like Moltres or Corviknight, but pokemon isn't a static game and also more importantly its just a joke. How am I supposed to say "haha spidops funny number go brrr" if I don't activate stakeout
personally a totally not serius buff, one that gamefreak could do just to troll, would be to give a signature ability to ledian that makes all punching moves hit 4 times. Yes, this would mean power up punch would give a +4 with each hit increasing in power. Ice punch gives you 4 10% chances to freeze in a row, etc
I would love this but MF's at GameFreak have no self control. You just know that 2 generations later they'd give that ability to something with normal stats and then we'll regret it.
Really good video!! As a casual player, it’s interesting learning what pokemon are the worst. Thank you for explaining things out and providing suggestions :] Also I don’t like how your background glitches out 😭 I would rather have it loop without the glitch. Keep up the fantastic work!!! I enjoyed the video. You did Ledian dirty at the end 😭
Yeah I always knew that Gen 3 had a lot of hoenn pokemon were the epitome "jack of all trades, master of none" . If Sharpedo was introduced in Gen 4, it could have been a decent glass cannon but it unfortunately was in the pre physical special split era.
For many years I've had a weird feeling that gen 3 was when they first started talking about changing the physical special split, but something hindered them from doing so. It feels like making everything a mixed attacker was a compromise more so than the original intention
Sunflora is busted in random battle, because it’s always level 100, and gets choice spec leaf storm off of a pretty good special attack. The only thing in randoms that can live is resists
As my favourite Gen 9 Pokémon I have to say that hurts so much. You’re telling me that annihilape is worse than veluza? In doubles? (Edit) I haven’t seen the whole video yet so if it doesn’t actually happen then I guess I got got.
The wild thing is, the fix for swanna would've just been giving it drizzle instead of peliper, which imo makes more sense anyway since swans have the association with dancing and the main way to get rain is rain dance.
My boy Unoun using Hidden Power to force Ledian to submit. I found interesting how the stats of the worst mon of each gen slowly increase. Also loving how most comments aren't of people angry, but happy for their favorite mons NOT appearing in the list. Also at 16:02 the treasures of ruin, paradox pokemon, new forms, the dragon bikes and many more be like:
i think a funny way to buff Pyukumuku(and Shuckle) would be to give it Body Press. imagine not being able to do anything as a smol sea cucumber sweeps your entire team in Trick Room.
@@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate I said Spidops, not Spinda lol. Though yes, I do agree. A baby Spinda would be adorable, and a normal/psychic evolution would go hard. XD
@@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate It's stats would be 30 across the board for 180 bst and gain priority +50% damage on 'turning' moves (Flip Turn, U-Turn, etc.)
Ways to buff castform: "Castform has two abilities!" It always have Forecast, BUT.. During Rain: Swift Swim During Sun: Solar Power During Snow: Slush Rush
@@LAIDDN24No, it wouldn't. Chlorophyll is based on actual chlorophyll (specifically A and B), which happen to be the pigments that make plants green. It would make no sense for something that isn't a plant/algae to have the ability chlorophyll.
“He has no swag, he stacks no paper, and he does not ride on 24 inch chrome” 19:08 Moxie, you’re goated for that my guy. Boondocks still a national treasure!
No, the worst is definitely metapod. It's actually way worse than Caterpie, as it's not living a hit anyway, so defenses don't matter, same with health. And Caterpie is both faster and stronger, irrc. Weedle is best of those four (Caterpie, metapod, kakuna, Weedle) as it hits hardest.
@@greenkitty1 Starting to think his list is honestly pretty bad. There's arguably a worse Pokemon in almost every generation over the ones he declared. I'd argue Magikarp, Metapod and Kakuna are ALL worse than Beedrill from Gen 1.
Incin is the worst Pokémon ever. In the VGC and TCG. Nobody uses Incin. And those who do, are trolls and contrarians. I hope one day it gets a buff so it's not absolute garbage.
I'm glad to see that consistently, no matter if it's positive or negative, when Carnivine is mentioned, they always start with "Now, wait. Don't misunderstand. I like Carnivine." Always. It is without fail. I also like Carnivine.
Surprised you didnt mention Unown for Gen 2, that thing has been complete unusable garbage that can only learn one single move and thus only have the same basic gimmick every time for every single generation that thing has been in
I see where you're coming from and honestly, probably like him, I forgot the thing even existed. When you see it though, you know it's bad, it's the gimmick to beat all gimmicks, it's barely even a pokemon, having closer ties to alphabet soup. Ledian had potential, I mean, look at that hidden ability! Iron Fists is a great ability, and it sucks despite that.
Moxie, you’ll be pleased to know that in Pokemon Conquest, Carnivine not only floats, but acts exactly like a flying Pokémon in its movement style, too
Oh, you can totally win with your favorite. But the worse your favorite happens to be, the more insane and elite it's teammates need to be to make up for it.
Exactly, Pachirisu winning Worlds was amazing, but people always forget the team around it. Pokémon is a team game, you can't just put all your friends on a football team and expect them to beat professional athletes just because you believe in them.
@@sizzle5775pachirisu was picked by Sejun park not because he liked the Pokémon but because understood it would do well in the current meta and that’s why it won worlds
@@jameercorneille8234 Yeah, I know, my comment is more so about people acting Pachirisu solely won Worlds 2014 and how it shows that you can with anything, which wasn't the case at all.
Narrator: "There is a way to restore the body without using a healing move. A method which can only be used once. Beedrill had intentionally been holding back this method the whole time. Resuming his transformation...through means of Mega Evolution." -Hard cut to Mega Beedrill standing fully transformed while Raichu is in shock.
Ledian is a supporter that was redesigned to look as meelee fighter. They should allow Ledian to have more HP (+20) , as its quite big and that would help to do what he was created for - being a special def wall.
Every Pokemon on this list, even ones considered for placement like Carnivine, deserve either a bag of tools (including abilities), an evolution, or raw stats. Case-by-case depending on the mon, evolution partly depending on if the mon in question could get enough value itself just by having access to eviolite.
Oh Ledian… I always adored Ledian’s design since I first saw it as a kid (ladybugs were one of my favorite childhood animals)but I never used one. Then Sun and Moon came out and I saw Ladybas were a pretty early encounter and thought “hey! Now’s the perfect time for me to finally try out Ledian! I know it’s not the best Pokémon out there, but I’m not playing competitively and Karen always said strong or weak doesn’t matter as long as I’m using Pokémon I love!” My Ledian didn’t even make it through an entire island before I boxed him.
my fondest memory of Sunflora is OHKOing a Primal Groudon under Trick Room who switched into me. It set up sun and with Life Orb on Sunflora it blasted that PDon into next week with Earth Power.
I remember hearing back then that the ledian 110 spdef was meant to be its attack stat. But though some process they messed it up. Imo it doesn’t need an evolution. It needs a complete regional form + evolution to it.
I don't understand why beedrill is lower than farfetched and especially onix. Have they had niches that weren't temporary because if not I think the sole existence of mega bee drill, even if it wasn't used in doubles, would make it more notable than the bird with a leak or a rock snake with unjustifiably low states
Onix is NFE and can at least (potentially) get some mileage out of the eviolite. Farfetch’d has better typing, and the leek item plus either focus energy or a high crit rate move means Farfetch’d can always get a crit in Gen 6 and later
Forget Onix and Farfetch'd. He put Beedrill lower than Metapod and Magikarp, lmfao. And if we're going by NFE (which I don't recall him specifying), he put Ledian below Unown, lmfao.
Being the biggest fan of Ledian is truly one of the biggest uphill battles of my life
I truly wish you the best on that uphill battle. I have faith that one day Ledian will get something as payback to all those who tossed it aside
Mommey I want cockroaches!! No sweetey we have cackroaches at home. Cockroaches at home:
Idkr Give it a Evo focused on Ranged punches Sense it more Sp but I would love a physical attackers but the latter would be more creative
Must not get a lot of competition.
Ledian is one of the coolest Pokemon Designs imo, if only it was stronger..
Time traveller here, they didn't buff ledian but did give incineroar a kalos form
I can't wait for whatever Incineroar gets (variant/mega/convergent) to directly counter standard VGC Incineroar
The funny thing is Kalos Incineroar would probably be inferior in almost every way comparatively. Fire/Dark is very good for incin, most other type combos would be worse. It could lose access to Parting Shot & Knock Off (possibly). It's stat spread would probably get worse. And obviously, no intimidate. Unless they decide that Incineroar needs to be a fire/fairy with 150 special attack (and 10 attack) and pixelate as an ability.
Where'd you learn that? The only leak I found was saying Snivy, Torchic, and Totodile were going to be the starters and I don't even believe that since I doubt they would use starters from the same generations as the starters in Arceus.
@@Glitch_Man42 I honestly think that a fire/fighting type wouldn't be that bad, if you give him more hp and change intimidate for an ability like "veteran" that doubles his defenses against pokemons that are set up, or some sort of strange type of sturdy like "willpower" where the pokemon can't faint the turn it goes in, like a free endure
@@Ability-King-KK bruh. Empoleon? Design based on notorious French Dictator Napoleon?
Beedrill after mega evolving:
"You were magnificent, Spidops. I shall never forget you for as long as I live."
Domain expansion: infinite web
Domain expansion: Malevolent Drill
Beedril had to use another pokemon, Meowscarada. SImply because Meowscarada would adapt to Spidopses Focus Sash by turning into an Ice type and clicking Triple Axel.
Imaginary Technique: Adaptability Fell Stinger
Spideops: "Something's wrong.
I suddenly wanted to deny and overturn the poke trainer that denied me the right to be in OU, and it's Ubbers.
To assert myself, I did something I ussualy don't.
From that moment, I had already lost."
Did I just watch a level 100 ledian use a SUPER EFFECTIVE MOVE on a pokemon which is nearly 40 LEVELS LOWER AND NOT EVEN DO 3 QUARTERS. Nintendo please give ledian a buff.
(Trubbish) Show me a trash Pokémon.
(Garbodor) I mean a REAL trash Pokémon.
(Ledian) Perfection.
But seriously, it looks really cool, it shouldn’t be so bad.
Loooooool
And with iron fist
Personally, I would like more speed/evasion and utility punches rather than just a plain damage boost.
I always liked the punch that confuses the opponent, and by now its part of it's identity that it can hardly punch anything.
Imagine if Ledian get's a mega evolution and is like, mega beedril but good
Crazy strong and kinda tanky(?
Ledian needs an evolution. Some sort of Ultraman ladybug pokemon.
I had a friend and we had an argument over Beedrill back in college, and out of spite always made it a point to have a Hall of Fame team with a Beedrill
Bro this is to funny. Beedrill isn’t even that cool. I had one on my team and beat SoulSilver with him, but even at level 100 he was weak.
Fell Stinger on him is a goated attack.
@@AstralAnubesfoolish chud, the awesome looking wasp with a badass mega-evolution isn’t cool because blah blah blah competitive
Had? Did you kill him?! D:
"Hey Ledian, you've got a special defense stat like a brick wall!"
"yeah but if I hit a brick wall, I die"
As soon as I saw Ledian I was curious if I'd see any other Dogs in Love fans down here
No way they died with that speed
@@tomsyalad9556 Dogs in Love? What is that?
Based JelloApocalypse reference
@@howard7318 a reference to a series by youtuber "JelloApocalypse" on pokemon XD gale of darkness, genuenly, if you want a better explation watch dogs in love 2 and 3, both are hilarious videos
Dang, my man Grapploct was so bad he didn't even make it to the tierlist at the end XD
Poor guy.
OH SHIT, I DIDN'T NOTICE
They're just that forgettable
The most memorable thing about Grapploct is when each of us realized he's not a water-type. That misled type assumption is the only noteworthy thing to its name.
@@LoudWafflehey I like its design…
Its the strongest one among them so i guess f tier isnt accurate to it
Didn't expect Urshifu to be the worst Pokemon of Gen 8, but I guess that's how much power creep there was.
it was obvious it had to be urshifu or calyrex shadow rider, the power creep in gen 8 was insane
How did gamefreak evven come up with cramorant? It litteraly does everything better than water urshifu!
Honestly bro, pinchurchin is just too insane. Whoever made it was clearly on something, and that something was on something else
Me, a mudkip fan eating popcorn watching people complaining about power creep:
It doesn't surprise me that Fluttermane got outclassed by it's present forms, Misdreavus and Mismagius. It's similar to that of Dusknoir and Dusclops/Duskull
Don't mess with Ledian fans. We will start crying.
You left Skill Swap off the list of support moves that Spinda can use, and with its amazing ability of Contrary, it can pull off some really funny stuff in doubles. Send it out alongside Arcanine, whose Intimidate lowers the foes' Attack by one stage, then Skill Swap with it to give it Contrary and take Intimidate on Spinda, which activates it again. Then have Arcanine start spamming Close Combat and Overheat. And if Spinda somehow survives long enough, you can rob an opponent of their own strong ability and replace it with Intimidate...which thanks to Contrary now _raises_ Arcanine's attack! "Spindaswap" is a hilarious way to turn another of your Pokémon into a sweeper.
Man, Flareon fans are eating right now. Not even being mentioned in a worst Pokémon video is a big step up.
Bro I was fully expecting a dishonourable mention for Glaceon because people bang on about how bad it is despite it being my favourite of the eveelutions. As a rule anytime I play Platinum I've got a Glaceon going to beat up Cynthia's Garchomp and more often than not just plain sweeping the E4.
In gen 1 it had a powerful hyperbeam and although still garbage it could do a gimmicky flamecharge/trailblaze guts set
Most of the eveeloutions are only mid at worst. Even the ones that are omega ass now were at least decent on release.
130 attack stab Flare Blitz does not belong anywhere near a list like this to be fair.
@@SeaOfPixelsfr
I never heard Audino described as "Summer Body Chansey" and now that I have, I have never heard a more perfect description for that weird rabbit thing.
I always called it "Bag of Experience Points"
"Nursing School Bullying Target"
"Spinda has a Batman utility belt, but Castform was given the keys to the United States armory...without any of the skills to use anything in there." I wheezed oh my God. Great job with this vid! Please show us the Wo-Chien plush when you get it lol
HE DIDN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT SUPER POWER CONTRARY AAAAAAH
@@Nebesus twice the Spinda’s attack, same amount of falling
@@holyelephantmg8838 😭😭😭😭
L take, you’re wrong (I haven’t watched the video yet)
Genuine questions:
1. How was gen 2 Ledian and not Unown?
2. How was gen 3 Castform and not Luvdisc?
Luvdisc has more utility (in icy wind and charm) and due to its higher speed(especially with a 97 speed under rain with swift swim)it could set it up more reliable than castform which has just attacking moves from bad offenses, castform does get tailwind but usually ur not benefiting that much as castform usually goes after his partner (due to its terrible speed of 70) meaning ur not gonna benefit in that turn from the tailwind effects due to the gen 8 dynamic speed change.
As for Unown vs Ledian, yeah I agree unown should take the spot.
@@dvdv4270 at least with unown you can drop an F to pay respects
@@dvdv4270i think coz unknown was never meant for anything outside of existing for lore
Unown is just like spinda. It only exists for collectors
Luvdisc endeavor and whirlpool is a valid choice to eliminate big threats.
shout-out to luvdisc for having every stat except speed be lower than Squirtle
and special defense
by one point
Luvdisc does one thing- Parafusattract. if it works, it works. if it doesn't, it dies.
Remember lovedisc is broken in smogon singles since your opponent will go into such a long laughing fit from seeing it on team preview that they will time out
Clearly you guys haven’t fought a luvdisc in doubles that uses entrainment on his kyogre ally giving it swift swim.
@@mpregsonic5874 im sorry but that is the most gimmicky thing ive ever heard of. Your using a precious team slot to add a pokemon that does nothing outside of that one move. And i understand its painfull if you dont expect it but if you do its super easy to shut down. Your better of having a pokemon that can speed control or just use a seperate swift swim user. And to top it all of it cant even work with primal kyogre
@@finnvaneekelen7740Luvdisc is good in randbats with Substitute Surf Whirlpool and Endeavor. Pretty much guarantees a kill if the opponent doesn't have a ghost type
People often assume that "your fave is weak" means "your fave sucks". Which is absolutely not the same.
my fave is bayleef, Awesome design, crap in competive. Last time used seriously:gen 3 ZU.
One of my favs is Sunflora and people say it's weak and it sucks :(
@@fabianp9181 not in our hearts and randbats
carbink was made to be cute, they aren't here to battle but emotionally support us
totodile..
Spinda gave up having good stats to have a humorous base stat total
Honestly you gotta respect it
Next gen give it a pseudo legendary Evo named Spindawin and make it's BST 720!
@@coreyodell6220 And an ability that makes it always confused.
@@GeorgeDCowley Evil bastard
@@coreyodell6220 spindaweel
"He has no swag, he stacks no paper, and he does not ride on 24 inch chrome."
And with just that line alone, I now love Ledian
9:30. Ferrothorn is supposed to be holding on to the ceiling. It’s mentioned in a few dex entries that hanging out on cave ceilings is their natural habitat
Moxie: I feel like I'm missing something...
Fan: If you forgot then it wasn't important.
Moxie: I guess you're right.
Grapploct watching everybody else be ranked:
its because he didn't have a spot above S Tier
@@Banzai_AWOS I think you mean he didn't have a spot below F Tier
@@Maxwell_Twistno.
I thought something was off
@@Maxwell_Twist The Tiers are flipped for this list, F Tier means it's actually useful
Dude, I had no idea ledian was S tier. I'm gonna have to rethink all of my teams.This man is a genius
So I've had a castform rework brewing since basically gen 5:
1) add sandstorm form and give each weather form a modified stat spread (keep the 420 BST, but raise and lower to match the type).
2) give them a hidden ability called "Weather Report" where it automatically sets the weather based on its held weather stone. Basically remove the need to waste a turn activating its gimmick and let it jump straight into the game, like how Imposter fixed Ditto's major flaw.
Let my guy go crazy!
lol i'd say go with Weather Report + a 30% buff to non-Atk stats in weather - leaving 252+ Castform a single point faster than stuff like Munkidori, lets it hit quite hard in Sun/Rain and allows it to be super bulky in Snow/Sand
Weather report like you said, but it sets the weather until weather change (exactlt how weather-setting abilities used to work), but keep its base stats garbage. This would give Castform a special lollipop dance, without making it an otherwise good Pokemon.
If gamefreak were to do this, they'd probably make this new ability a sidegrade, or at least not a direct upgrade to forecast. Maybe this version prevents castform from using weather variants not tied to their funny rock, regardless of how much the weather changes + ability does literally nothing if another item is used, so it's a token sidegrade but effective upgrade
I like weather report
Weather report should turn other team to snail.
11:02 "Summer body Chansey and Angry Magikarp"
Nahhhh, bros wild for that.
Aaaah, my beloved gen 1.
A generation where:
There's only a single Dragon type evolution line, home to that gen's pseudo-legendary, Dragonite, with the existence of a single dragon type move, dragon rage, which has... Fixed damage, so no dragon stab;
A place where bug types are so laughable that Psychic types have basically no weaknesses and can swipe the entire game (you get Abra early on) because...
"Special" is a single stat for both SpAtk and SpDef, so special attackers get an enormous bulk in SpDef stat too;
Focus Energy actually lowers your crit chance;
Crit chance is calculated via speed difference, so a fast Pokémon will be a crit machine;
Guaranteed hits can fail 1/256 of the times;
And being paralyzed was actually a meta strat.
Truly, one of the generations of all time. Today I just finished the pokedex for the first time via the mew exploit.
If you eat all of spidop's arms u get to summon mahoraga
Maximum output: Dialga’s ladder
delicious. so crunchy
Yummers!
Domain expansion: Trick room
@@Evesdropper Strongest Bug Type Of Today vs Strongest Bug Type In History
"My quote was referring to Silver mistreating his Pokemon, it wasn't intended to belittle the idea of metagames." -Karen, probably
Edit: wow, that's a lot of toxic casuals 'um aykcsually-'ing this post. I'm sure they have plenty of evidence of Gamefreak being anti-metagame over the years besides this, and have _totally not_ embraced the competitive scene with an official competitive format or anything. They've _definitely not_ made another character in a game like ORAS who explicitly says that sometimes you need to give up on using your favorites in order to win or anything.
There's no wrong way to enjoy games. Let competitive players enjoy themselves.
Tier lists are for tryhards, and the game was never meant to be played as a competitive esport to begin with.
@@josephbulkin9222
Competitive battles, ladder play, and VGC is how many people enjoy playing the game. Games are made to be enjoyed. You aren't the fun police, there isn't a "wrong" way to enjoy playing a game.
Cry.
@@timmyreobed5043 😐
@@josephbulkin9222 bros upset that people have fun playing pokemon in different ways to them
@@timmyreobed5043u cooked so hard with this
Next video "best glow up" where older mons get a different type or evolution ability etc that made them amazing
Like marill going from bad to ok with huge power to amazing with the fairy type
Marill is still bad 😉
@@indiradevi8136 compared to who? Pikachu?
@@ivanbluecoolwell it is bad, unless you mean azumarill
@@cameronmyers5716 yeah I mean the entire line. I just usually say the one who's the coolest
@@ivanbluecool Azumarill is the only good one btw. Marill and azurill are garbage mons I am sorry not sorry... They are cute tho won't lie
During one of the earlier VGC regulations of SV, I used a team that starred Spidops and Hatterene.
Turn 1, Spidops would protect while Hat would use trick room. Turn Turn 2, Hat would use skill swap and give the opposing Pokemon magic bounce, then Spidops would use sticky web to put the web on its own side.Turns 3 and up, Kingambit & Wigglytuff cleaned up hard.
The funny thing about this team is that Spidops was actually the best sticky webber for the job. It was the only bug that was slower than Hatterene in trick room with access to sticky webs, and insomnia made it a perfect anti-lead for Amoonguss.
12:21 Funnily enough, Carbink is meta in Pokémon GO PvP; right now it’s the 2nd best Gen VI mon behind Diggersby.
The stupid butt plug! 🤣🤣🤣
STINKY BINKY!
"Feel free to argue in the comments cuz it does actually help the video a lot"💀💀💀
Bro is going places
What! I never knew Ledian was such a strong pokemon with such a solid niche!
Also, fitting how 44% of the lists is just bug type.
“Truly skilled trainers can bring out the full potential in any Pokémon. Doesn’t mean Parasect is suddenly good, but at least you’re using it effectively now.”
-What Karen probably meant
(Also yes that is a personal example lol. Parasect is my favorite Kanto mon)
Also, man, Spidops is such an unfortunate case. If it had the same bst as Lokix it could at least be respectable. 46 more points could do wonders for it. Pure Bug is a surprisingly decent defensive type as well; 3 weaknesses and 3 resistances sounds pretty meh, but being able to resist Fighting and Ground is a pretty big deal considering Urshifu and Lando.
@j.b.5422 says the delusional comment.
@j.b.5422 competitive was barely a thing back then, I think you're the one that's delusional because you're applying a sentiment that didn't even exist
8:12 for Castform they could add a changing stat spread depending on weather form.
An Atk, a SpAtk, a Def and a SpDef form - whilst adding a sand form to get 4 total. For each form the opposite stats get halved and added on the corresponding stat + either hp or speed
4:15 the 1 Misdreavus and Mismagius fan weeping as their favorite are yet again forgotten. (its me, I'm that fan)
Kinda surprised Unown didn't win the gen 2 slot. That guy was made terrible and has no sort of interesting quirk to make it viable. It was just thrown in as a weird gimmick with no real viability for anything.
Unown's only move is hidden power. Guess what move hasn't been programmed into the game since gen 8. You gotta cut Unown some slack, he can't be the worst pokemon if he literally doesn't exist.
unown had hidden power in gen 8 lol
Unown's barely a Pokemon, and shouldn't really be judged by this criteria. they're just little letter guys, they're not really supposed to fight! also the purpose of Unown is to randomly come in clutch in a HGSS Nuzlucke, as we all know.
@@dvillines26 Fair point, but if we're considering *all* gen 2 pokemon for this. Unown would have to at least be mentioned as it is a pokemon who was designed. Even if that design was not for it to be a fighter.
@@ooskks6370
He picked Beedrill over Magikarp for worst Gen 1 Pokemon, I wouldn't give him too much credit here.
Unown is definitely the worst Pokemon out of Gen 2.
My part that likes scizor says i like competitive pokémon
My part that likes dachsbun makes me realize how much the mons i like arent high tier in decades
Edit: I KNOW DACHSBUN IS GOOD ON UBERS FOR KORAIDON STOP SAYING IT
NPC picks
Dachsbun hard walls Koraidon which gives it a use case in singles
@@SquidSushi_ jimothy cool viewer spotted, horse council has been notified
Good news
Dachbun is the perfect anti-competitive-Koraidon, soo good choice of dog
daschbun actually is sort of viable in ubers as a counter to koraidon
Can I get that link for the wo-chien body pillow
I would also like one
I will pay any price for the wo-chien body pillow. Even my soul.
add me to the que
Me too
5:14 Ledian holds such a special place in my heart for being an early game Pokémon in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness. I will forever love them (even if they're supremely weak)
Ledian holds a special place in that game's purify chamber
1:19 I feel like this part gets it a little wrong? I've seen people clear champions with Magikarp and a Ledian, so in that respect i do think anything is possible when you're a good trainer who's good at strategizing. I dunno
As a member of the Spidops Operatives, I present to you these 2 calcs:
Also, Spidops completely walls and forces Ogerpon out, so take that how you will.
252+ Atk Life Orb Stakeout Spidops First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 300-355 (93.4 - 110.5%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Stakeout Spidops First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 348-409 (108.4 - 127.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
With spikes support from H!Samurott Spidops can take over the world
Edit: just experienced this interesting calc earlier
252+ Atk Choice Band Stakeout Spidops First Impression vs. 252 HP / 16 Def Slowking-Galar: 408-481 (103.5 - 122%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Life Orb Stakeout Spidops First Impression vs. 252 HP / 16 Def Slowking-Galar: 355-419 (90.1 - 106.3%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
vs inferior Lokix
252+ Atk Choice Band Lokix First Impression vs. 252 HP / 16 Def Slowking-Galar: 241-285 (61.1 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Tinted Lens Lokix does that better
@@chardawg5911
the calcs would beg to differ
252+ Atk Choice Band Lokix First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Iron Crown: 204-241 (63.5 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
@touyakami1406 who tf would switch out of spidops to trigger stakeout
@victorlinares4137 someone who doesn't want to use tera to prevent any one of the following from dying/taking significant damage:
Darkrai, DeoxysSp., Meowscarada, Rillaboom, Roaring Moon, H!Samurott, Weavile, Ting-Lu, Ogerpon Water
Now, of course, logically speaking you would rather switch into Gouging Fire, Great Tusk or a flying check like Moltres or Corviknight, but pokemon isn't a static game
and also more importantly its just a joke. How am I supposed to say "haha spidops funny number go brrr" if I don't activate stakeout
cool still gonna spam op shit but that's cool still probably trash but might be able to beat beekuna
personally a totally not serius buff, one that gamefreak could do just to troll, would be to give a signature ability to ledian that makes all punching moves hit 4 times. Yes, this would mean power up punch would give a +4 with each hit increasing in power. Ice punch gives you 4 10% chances to freeze in a row, etc
That... Would make Ledian capable of reaching PU tier
I would love this but MF's at GameFreak have no self control. You just know that 2 generations later they'd give that ability to something with normal stats and then we'll regret it.
Then give it access to double iron bash for that juicy 99.996% flinch chance
@@Fincaurumcalced it out of interest, would be a 94.235% flinch. Good enough for ZUBL, surely.
@@Eroil Yeah, kind of hard to flinch things with its speed stat 😅
Thank you for including Kricketune's cry in this video. 11/10.
Really good video!! As a casual player, it’s interesting learning what pokemon are the worst. Thank you for explaining things out and providing suggestions :]
Also I don’t like how your background glitches out 😭
I would rather have it loop without the glitch.
Keep up the fantastic work!!! I enjoyed the video. You did Ledian dirty at the end 😭
That's an interesting theory with gen 3's mixed attacker trend. I've never heard that before
Shiftry, cacturne, sharpedo, seviper, camerupt, salamence, even altaria were mixed
A GAME THEORY
Yeah I always knew that Gen 3 had a lot of hoenn pokemon were the epitome "jack of all trades, master of none" . If Sharpedo was introduced in Gen 4, it could have been a decent glass cannon but it unfortunately was in the pre physical special split era.
For many years I've had a weird feeling that gen 3 was when they first started talking about changing the physical special split, but something hindered them from doing so. It feels like making everything a mixed attacker was a compromise more so than the original intention
I kind of wish Natures did nothing online, so mixed attackers were more viable.
Sunflora is busted in random battle, because it’s always level 100, and gets choice spec leaf storm off of a pretty good special attack. The only thing in randoms that can live is resists
Isn't it level 100 because it loses a lot?
i can’t believe he said that annighlape was the weakest😢😢😢😢
As my favourite Gen 9 Pokémon I have to say that hurts so much. You’re telling me that annihilape is worse than veluza? In doubles?
(Edit) I haven’t seen the whole video yet so if it doesn’t actually happen then I guess I got got.
@@rileyackison4495 what are your thoughts on this situation now
Wtf is an annighlape
@@AdminAbuseis the evolution of simipour
That actually got me lmfao
0:26 it’s 2 weeks you can’t make the argument anymore your poop license is expired.
The wild thing is, the fix for swanna would've just been giving it drizzle instead of peliper, which imo makes more sense anyway since swans have the association with dancing and the main way to get rain is rain dance.
The Boondock quote at the end was an especially nice touch lol
2:20 WHAT THE HELL IS THAT COPY OF PLATINUM DOING IN THERE??? HELLO?!
I can't tell what he's trying to say about it, like is there just alot of weak pokemon or is the game bad in his eyes, we may never know
@@z0drakd0vah4he is implying that Nintendo left platinum behind because they chose to remake diamond and pearl instead of platinum.
My boy Unoun using Hidden Power to force Ledian to submit. I found interesting how the stats of the worst mon of each gen slowly increase. Also loving how most comments aren't of people angry, but happy for their favorite mons NOT appearing in the list.
Also at 16:02 the treasures of ruin, paradox pokemon, new forms, the dragon bikes and many more be like:
8:44 i just realized, saying "STAB bonus" is saying "same type attack bonus bonus" and i have pissed myself off by realizing that
19:07 that is the first Boondocks quote I ever heard on a poke vid
i think a funny way to buff Pyukumuku(and Shuckle) would be to give it Body Press.
imagine not being able to do anything as a smol sea cucumber sweeps your entire team in Trick Room.
Spidops unironically looks like it should be a middle evolution. Like they just forgot the third one.
A baby spinda would be so laughably weak but so impossibly cute. I feel like a spinda evolution would be normal/psychic
@@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate I said Spidops, not Spinda lol.
Though yes, I do agree. A baby Spinda would be adorable, and a normal/psychic evolution would go hard. XD
@@lasercraft32 oops
@@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate
It's stats would be 30 across the board for 180 bst and gain priority +50% damage on 'turning' moves (Flip Turn, U-Turn, etc.)
Yeah there's a few like that in Paldea. Scovillain is probably the worst offender
Ways to buff castform:
"Castform has two abilities!"
It always have Forecast, BUT..
During Rain: Swift Swim
During Sun: Solar Power
During Snow: Slush Rush
wouldn't it make sense if sunny castform gets chlorophyll
@jhaydenjoecredo3761 yee but castform aint doing shit with that speed, and swift swim is already a speed boost too
@@LAIDDN24No, it wouldn't. Chlorophyll is based on actual chlorophyll (specifically A and B), which happen to be the pigments that make plants green. It would make no sense for something that isn't a plant/algae to have the ability chlorophyll.
With Gen 6's and 7's being Carbink and Pyukumuku, that literally shows how good the Pokémon that came out of those gens
“He has no swag, he stacks no paper, and he does not ride on 24 inch chrome” 19:08
Moxie, you’re goated for that my guy. Boondocks still a national treasure!
Moxie, a seasoned VGC player: Beedrill is the worst.
Someone with 1000 elo on Showdown: UhM aCkTuAlLy iT's MeTaPoD!
No, the worst is definitely metapod. It's actually way worse than Caterpie, as it's not living a hit anyway, so defenses don't matter, same with health. And Caterpie is both faster and stronger, irrc. Weedle is best of those four (Caterpie, metapod, kakuna, Weedle) as it hits hardest.
@@greenkitty1 There.
@@madysonandres9571 thank you for updating it for me, a 1100 elo on showdown
I think he only counts final evos? Maybe? Cause he skipped over Metapod, Kakuna, Cosmog, Cosmoem, etc.
And Unown has usage huh...
@@greenkitty1
Starting to think his list is honestly pretty bad.
There's arguably a worse Pokemon in almost every generation over the ones he declared.
I'd argue Magikarp, Metapod and Kakuna are ALL worse than Beedrill from Gen 1.
The only reason humanity in the Pokemon world hasn't been wiped out by killer Beedrill is because their stats are so low.
Incineroar, hands down the worst
He's a selfish lover, but I wouldn't say the worst
Incin is the worst Pokémon ever. In the VGC and TCG. Nobody uses Incin. And those who do, are trolls and contrarians. I hope one day it gets a buff so it's not absolute garbage.
@hotdoooooooogs Dammit, you beat me too it
I don’t know man, Mega Rayquaza was pretty awful. Dude has such low BST.
Just has no options
what was the pokemon at 0:25 ? he seems so cool!!
also my fav pokemon 100% has to be vivillon, marshtomp or pyukumuku !!
It's Wo-chien
I'm glad to see that consistently, no matter if it's positive or negative, when Carnivine is mentioned, they always start with "Now, wait. Don't misunderstand. I like Carnivine." Always. It is without fail.
I also like Carnivine.
Surprised you didnt mention Unown for Gen 2, that thing has been complete unusable garbage that can only learn one single move and thus only have the same basic gimmick every time for every single generation that thing has been in
I see where you're coming from and honestly, probably like him, I forgot the thing even existed. When you see it though, you know it's bad, it's the gimmick to beat all gimmicks, it's barely even a pokemon, having closer ties to alphabet soup. Ledian had potential, I mean, look at that hidden ability! Iron Fists is a great ability, and it sucks despite that.
He didn’t mention Luvdisc either…
@@togashifc
He picked Beedrill over Metapod and Magikarp, lol.
@@-l-2377 Tbh, I couldn’t count not fully evolved pokemon either.
@@togashifc
Fair.
That does leave Luvdisc and Unown still though.
2:47 legends zaza 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Amen
Holy peak. That thumbnail is amazing. Not to mention the detail of Spidops being Sukuna cuz it can have 4 arms. It's SO GOOD
Mega Beedrill also has four arms
Wouldn't spidops be Gojo? + Beedrill being Sukuna makes more sense since it can change form (mega evo) and it gains a new body with 4 arms.
10:48 The Makoto 3rd Strike theme in the background was sick
Moxie, you’ll be pleased to know that in Pokemon Conquest, Carnivine not only floats, but acts exactly like a flying Pokémon in its movement style, too
Moxie your wo-chien body pillow might use foul play against you watch out, those muscles are gonna backfire
Oh, you can totally win with your favorite. But the worse your favorite happens to be, the more insane and elite it's teammates need to be to make up for it.
Exactly, Pachirisu winning Worlds was amazing, but people always forget the team around it. Pokémon is a team game, you can't just put all your friends on a football team and expect them to beat professional athletes just because you believe in them.
@@sizzle5775pachirisu was picked by Sejun park not because he liked the Pokémon but because understood it would do well in the current meta and that’s why it won worlds
@@jameercorneille8234 Yeah, I know, my comment is more so about people acting Pachirisu solely won Worlds 2014 and how it shows that you can with anything, which wasn't the case at all.
@@sizzle5775 oh okay
grapploct is so bad he didn’t even make it onto the final tier list
6:25 I shall predict on this day, Oct 9th 2024, that they will sadly once again not show Ledian any love
I'm sorry, but you can NOT convince me that Swanna, with its amazing typing, could be any worse than Maractus...
18:53 forgot gen 8 in the tier list
Beedrill: Ah yes my favorite "Mega Beedrill' form, I haven't use this since Gen 7 era.
Narrator: "There is a way to restore the body without using a healing move. A method which can only be used once. Beedrill had intentionally been holding back this method the whole time. Resuming his transformation...through means of Mega Evolution."
-Hard cut to Mega Beedrill standing fully transformed while Raichu is in shock.
Then Raichu got waffled after that 😔
I’m predicting this video as being the same as “what is the regional bug of every generation”
In Gen 3 its Castform
"My Wo-chien body pillow isnt here yet so i can still call folks out"
My brother in christ, you lost the right when the order was placed
Ledian is a supporter that was redesigned to look as meelee fighter. They should allow Ledian to have more HP (+20) , as its quite big and that would help to do what he was created for - being a special def wall.
If Castform ever evolves to be a fast special attacker, it's going to be the nastiest weather sweeper for every weather
Watch as GF makes it a special tank!
Don't do that, don't give my boy hope.
@@onebear6504Gen 1 Special lol
4:23 misdreavus: the day i lost my identity
try being a huge mismagius fan and learning that the new misdreavus doesn't evolve 🥲
@@modestMismagius105 Is there anything worse than the concept of Flutter Mane evolving?
@@cradiculousinstant Little Cup ban
Every Pokemon on this list, even ones considered for placement like Carnivine, deserve either a bag of tools (including abilities), an evolution, or raw stats. Case-by-case depending on the mon, evolution partly depending on if the mon in question could get enough value itself just by having access to eviolite.
Oh Ledian…
I always adored Ledian’s design since I first saw it as a kid (ladybugs were one of my favorite childhood animals)but I never used one. Then Sun and Moon came out and I saw Ladybas were a pretty early encounter and thought “hey! Now’s the perfect time for me to finally try out Ledian! I know it’s not the best Pokémon out there, but I’m not playing competitively and Karen always said strong or weak doesn’t matter as long as I’m using Pokémon I love!”
My Ledian didn’t even make it through an entire island before I boxed him.
my fondest memory of Sunflora is OHKOing a Primal Groudon under Trick Room who switched into me. It set up sun and with Life Orb on Sunflora it blasted that PDon into next week with Earth Power.
Unforgivable that Ting-Lu fell off to the worst Gen 9 Pokemon. That Fissure + Stomping Tantrum set didn't bring it far, did it?
Legends ZAZA is an absolutely S tier nickname
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GameFreak should either give Carbink a Mega Evolution, or give it an evolution to more closely resemble its similarities to Diancie.
4:25 wasn't stantler's evolution from legends arceus, which is gen 8 instead of gen 9?
Gen 2: are you forgetting a certain letter pokemon with only 1 move
1:17 i think you're just a weak trainer
1:23 nah, id win pokemon world championship with masquerain
I could see the case being made for Swanna getting access to quiver dance. Would make sense i think with the swan lake (sub) theme too to me at least
No. Let's not give quiver dance to more mons.
I'm commenting from 1 year in the future in ZA Ledian got a new evo named Gokudian where he fuses with Goku and learns the Dragon Fist
"Kricketune doesn't have anything going for it", EXCUSE ME, DID YOU NOT NOTICE THE GLORIOUS MUSTACHE
Haven’t heard a high iq Rick and Morty joke in ages that got a good laugh out of me
0:17 "Hey it's me goku"
Not gonna lie the jujutsu Kaisen thumbnails be tough
"He has no swag, he stacks no paper and he doesn't ride on 24" chrome"😂😂😂
I remember hearing back then that the ledian 110 spdef was meant to be its attack stat. But though some process they messed it up. Imo it doesn’t need an evolution. It needs a complete regional form + evolution to it.
I don't understand why beedrill is lower than farfetched and especially onix. Have they had niches that weren't temporary because if not I think the sole existence of mega bee drill, even if it wasn't used in doubles, would make it more notable than the bird with a leak or a rock snake with unjustifiably low states
Onix is a NFE (Not Fully Evolved) Pokemon and is great in Little Cup.
Onix is NFE and can at least (potentially) get some mileage out of the eviolite. Farfetch’d has better typing, and the leek item plus either focus energy or a high crit rate move means Farfetch’d can always get a crit in Gen 6 and later
Forget Onix and Farfetch'd. He put Beedrill lower than Metapod and Magikarp, lmfao.
And if we're going by NFE (which I don't recall him specifying), he put Ledian below Unown, lmfao.