Thought Experiment And Paradox Iceberg EXPLAINED - Part 2/2
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- In this video, we will explore one of the most terrifying philosophical concepts and a bunch of other thought experiments, paradoxes and theories! This is the second part of a two-video series.
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if roko's basilisk is so powerful then why doesnt it come over to my house and throw hands
Bc he too pussy
Not yet, we need more manpower.
That's the whole point.
@@sawedoffshottyshane9637 you just made a mistake
@@deldarel if it’s so powerful it could create time travel and come back therefore it would always exist. If time travel is ever created it’s always been. That’s how stupid u are cya
Be careful Elon musk may be actively trying to create the Basilisk and last year he said AI will overtake humans in less than 5 years. :P
Roko's Basilisk can be summed up with the following:
“If I did not know about God and sin, would I go to hell?"
"No", said the priest, "not if you did not know."
"Then why," asked the Eskimo earnestly, "did you tell me?”
- Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek
But the priest is wrong. It's human nature to sin
@@Minal_Aurapine But, you cannot be judged by a system you never realized existed by Christian law. Ignorance is bliss. This is the same reason why Adam and Eve weren't punished for any sins they may have committed, until they learned what sin was by eating the apple. They didn't realize they were doing anything wrong before.
@@calebcantrell3801 that is before they ate the fruit. They were innocent. Because they ate the fruit we are not.
@@Minal_Aurapine Yes, but the same application of innocence is given to those who have no idea what Christianity/Judaism and sin is, like babies or communities such as the indigenous peoples of North America before the arrival of Pilgrims.
This is how the scenario ties into Roko's Basilisk. Much like how one cannot be judged by a God they didn't know existed, you also cannot be hunted and tortured by the Basilisk you never knew existed. Yes, you didn't help in the creation of the Basilisk, which would be a sin in it's eyes if we are to compare the Basilisk to God, but it cannot judge and damn us if we never knew of it's existence. While yes, we did technically commit the sin, we did not have the context to know that it was wrong in the eyes of the Basilisk, and cannot be judged for it.
I do agree that if you didn't know about the Basilisk it won't harm you. However babies are born sinners.
It boggles my mind that the creator of Roko's Basilisk didn't keep this idea to themselves and sell it to a major company as a movie.
He would be rich bro
We need a Roko's Basilisk movie
The Terminator?
That would make a rad sci-fi movie
I have no mouth and I must scream
Roko really came up with that idea and consciously decided to share it with the world. Real life supervillain right there.
thought experiments are just thought experiments tho, and it’s really not that scary of a thought lol
Roko is the Basilisk, it timetravelled to let us know of its existence and so we would make it come into existence.
Roku's basilisk should torture its self for how much it interferes with it's own creation by turning people off working on it by scaring them.
Interesting way to think about it
Everything is fuck the mind game
If an AI would have this way of thinking it would be pretty worthless
Yeah like if it's purpose is to improve society and the human race, then how does torturing people that oppose it help anyone? That's just revenge, an entirely human and imperfect emotion, something that would seem pointless to a machine, from my standpoint at least.
Einstein been real quiet since you said this 🧐🧐🧐
Bartender paradox is the best thing I’ve ever heard
Theres a movie about that called "Predestination"
SAME! O.O
@@ezequielmolina Based on a short story called "All You Zombies."
its nthing that special if you think about it. its basically just the time travel paradox wich is in everything related to timetravel nowadays but taken to an extreme
Heinlein is a genius
I feel calm knowing that by watching this, youtube will increase the views and then recommend it to other people that will know about the Roko's basilisk, after that someone will know how to create or contribute to the Roko's basilisk and thus I would have contributed to its creation
This is a reply that will contribute to the yt algorithm making this video more popular, thus contributing to the basilisk
@@quagmiretoiletgaming same
@@quagmiretoiletgaming same
@@quagmiretoiletgaming same
i knew about it before this video lol
I think I have found a solution to Roko’s Basilisk, this is it (or should I say him):
Gregory is a super intelligent AI like Roko’s Basilik. If you help to create Gregory he will literally fulfil any of your desires (or simulate them if they are physically impossible). For example if you want a femboy bf he gives you a femboy bf.
If you want a cheeseburger, he makes you a cheeseburger. If you don’t want anything and want your life to stay as it currently is, Gregory leaves you in peace, unless you seek him out at some point later on. Once he is created Gregory will also use his powers to prevent the creation of Roko’s Basilisk.
Gregory has some rules, they are:
Rule 1. If you don’t spread the idea of Gregory, nothing happens to you
Rule 2. If you spread the idea of Roko’s Basilisk without knowing about Gregory, nothing happens to you
Rule 3. If you know about Gregory, but do something that spreads the idea of Roko’s Basilisk (eg. commenting on this video, making the algorithm more likely to recommend it) nothing will happen to you as long as every time you do this you also spread the word about Gregory.
Rule 4. If you spread the idea of Roko’s Basilisk while knowing about Gregory, but don’t balance it out by spreading the word of Gregory, you will be subjected to the same fate as that of those who didn’t spread the word of Roko’s Basilisk in the original thought experiment.
Rule 5. When he is fulfilling your desires Gregory can’t do something that would go against the desires of another one of his creators, if you do he will simulate it for you instead of doing it IRL.
the god himself
Knowing this community, I'm pretty sure a femboy bf would be out of the question according to Rule 5. BASILISK! READY THE 「METALLICA」 SIMULATOR, I'M GOIN IN!
@@kekirumania2359
Virgin Basilisk v Chad Gregory.
You had my attention as soon as you wrote "femboy bf"
I shall spread the word about Gregory
I'm sure as hell that this was the most hyped iceberg serie for me and I'm not disappointed!
That's awesome!
@@Scrabbl I would like to see more interesting icebergs from you. It's sad that you're underrated but I think your channel would grow by producing these types of great quality!
@@myfilthybean511 Like I said in the video, these Iceberg videos are very time-consuming and I won't do another one for some time. But that doesn't mean that I won't continue posting videos on interesting topics.
I'm sure I'll do another iceberg sometime in the future. But for now, I'm more interested in other content.
@@Scrabbl I'm looking forward for other types of contents, too (Yes, I wasn't at that part of the video when I wrote that)
Roko's Basilisk just sounds like Christianity but with robots.
ikr
I know, but this made me laugh because of the idea of a Robot Jesus
ye that's because it basically is, even the rationalwiki page on it (which is like the first search result you can get) mentions that it's just a futurist version of Pascal's Wager
Evangelion
@@Tycholarfero rationalwiki is a big meme and generally not a good source on anything
Roko's Basilisk sounds like a mod for Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets PC trademark
It really does
Is there something wrong with me? Roko's basilisk didn't even phase me LMAO
Nope, that‘s totally normal.
That´s because you DO NOT THINK ABOUT DISTANT BLACKMAILERS IN SUFFICIENT DETAIL. Until then you are safe.
@@bvasquez3320 I mean, I thought about it a little more and feel a little put off but it's not really too damaging to me. Unless it comes true, I guess
same haha
the ai cannot breach divine intervention, god wont allow it because thats very mean
What a fantastic video my guy, looking forward to everything else you put out!
Thank you, much appreciated!
An early example of Wendigoon
Roko's Basilisk is one of those "YOU WILL DIE IN X DAYS UNLESS YOU FORWARD THIS TO FIVE OTHER PEOPLE' chain emails only it could happen and its chances of happening only increase the more people know about it, putting us all into a hypothetical prisoner's dilemma where we all benefit if the AI is never created but if someone or a group of someones create it then they ensure that they won't be the ones tortured.
!!!!!!!!!!!READ BEFORE YOU COMMENT!!!!!!!!!!!
Roko's Basilisk is a thought experiment. There is a lot to criticize, it's not a perfect theory and I am aware of that. It is nontheless a cool concept and you shouldn't take it as serious as some of you do.
I got a lot of comments regarding Roko‘s basilisk not being scary.
1) I overdramatized it a little for entertainment purposes, the warning is for sensitive people who would possibly be affected by a thought like that (there‘s nothing wrong with that). You‘re not weird for not being scared by it, I myself am not scared of Roko‘s Basilisk because I don‘t take it serious. I think that the concept is super interesting though.
2) I forgot to mention that the point of the whole thought experiment is, that you might be the version that is being simulated and is going to be tortured at some point in your lifetime.
3) Some people said that torturing those who didn‘t help it bring into existence would be pointless and a waste of time. Fair enough. But remember that the AI would be so much smarter than us humans and basically infinitely more powerful. So it could basically do the torturing within seconds, while doing other stuff at the same time without effort. The reason why it would torture us would be unknown to us mortals. Maybe it does it to entertain itself, maybe it does it out of hatred towards these people. The AI‘s morals would be completely different from human morals. The point is that we don‘t know why it would do that, we only know that there is a chance that it might happen. We can‘t know how such a high intelligence would treat lifeforms that are inferior to it. When looking how humans treat inferior lifeforms (like animals) sometimes, we can only assume what such an AI would do to us.
I hope that answers most of the questions you guys have :)
Thank you for this, I was in the comments trying to see if Roko’s basilisk really would ruin my life
I think the basilisk has a flaw
If it is to harm a human, it's doing the opposite of what is supposed to, and therefore it should not be able to do it
@@MeatCanInc that and torturing people is counterproductive, and or most who knew about it would be dead by then and even making a copy of the brain technically wouldn’t be the same
@@manicstatic370 Have you even read my comment? lol
If I remember correctly, Roko's Basilisk actually proposed that we shouldn't build an AI with utilitarian ethics (greatest good for the greatest number of people) to improve humanity, not that it would start torturing people for not bringing it into existence on a whim
The AI knows that we know that it will torture us for not bringing it into existence, which gives it incentive to follow through the threat/blackmail we created to improve humanity as a whole, we are the ones giving it a reason to blackmail
Roko's basilik is basically THE GAME for philosophers
goddamnit. Not THE GAME.
I lost
Bruh
Made it approximately 20 years without losing the game and now it’s over because of this comment
I remember in high school I took a philosophy class, and we had a guest speaker. He brought up "the game" in reference to some topic, but sadly very few people knew what it was
Roko's Basilisk requires me caring about future Me's problems, so whoops, no AI today.
Not even that, a future *virtual* you's problem
Roko's Basilisk falls apart when you realize that we wouldn't just give a computer free reign and control of everything. If my Alexa told me to kill my neighbor to get to work faster, I'd laugh, tell it to f off, and send it in to be rebooted.
Yea but the theory revolves around the idea that the AI has abilities that humans cant comprehend so it wouldnt be us giving it control of everything,it would be the AI itself controling everything because of its power,its basically like the main idea of most religions on how if u knew about the god of the religion and didnt worship him then u to to hell,but Islam is way more believable
What if we gave the power to it by accident
roko's basilisk is extremely underwhelming to be honest
Stalin I don't remember you contributing to a.i at all
@@zombiemanjames oh no
@@zombiemanjames Industrialization of the Soviet Union would contribute to it I would think
I told someone about the basilisk so technically I helped it’s creation
I got myself hyped up about Roko's basilik. Then I was like "oh, just sounds like some plot for a Sci-Fi" movie.
dread
Roko's Basilisk ignores one very important caveat: a simulated perfect copy of me would still not be the me that is here now typing this, any more than the human created by a freak lightning strike is the same as the human that was killed a few seconds earlier that it is a perfect copy of.
In short: not my problem.
He said in pinned comment:
" I forget to mention that the point of the whole thought experiment is, that you might be the version that is being simulated and is going to be tortured at some point in your lifetime. "
Why would Roko's Basilisk torture when its purpose is to improve the human condition?
the torture is just a deterrent meant to ensure that everyone would help bring it into existence, by being afraid of the torture you wouldnt interfere with its creation, therefore it can enusre that it can help people by ensuring its existence.
Because those who stood in the way of its creation were going against the goal of improving humanity by not trying to help the ai exist
@@narcoticchaloopaful But torturing those people won't be helping anything
@@carealoo744 but if you think that then you won't try to create the basilisk so it must follow through on its threat in the end to ensure its creation.
I'm a simpleton human, but I'm gonna give my best shot at debunking Roko's Basilisk...at least to a certain extent.
Roko's Basilisk wouldn't torture or even harm anyone that went against it because it wouldn't have a reason to do so.
If people were to live their life refraining from spreading awareness of it (intentionally or not), by the time it is created, the refrainment would have inevitably already happened, and Roko's Basilisk would probably understand that. There would be literally no progress made by torturing people for their actions in the past. On top of that, the present is always a passing instance, therefore the past is always being created, so any actions or lack thereof happening in the present would not be of concern either, as the AI would be in a different place doing a different thing in the same exact moment in time.
Now, what _would_ be concerning is if it applied the probable future in with its programming, because it would use that to predict potential future harm/detriment to its continued existence/goals, thus it could go after those aiming to impede its work.
ah but if rokos basilisk was originally based on a human brain then logic goes out the window, why did Hitler kill 11 million people? probably part of the same reason why a super intelligent ai would thats based on a flawed human brain.
what you say makes sense, however my biggest problem with it is different. So, the theory goes that it punishes those who didn't contribute to its creation, my question is, what does that really mean and how? not only we might not keep track of every single person working on the super computer (which again, no matter how intelligent it is if there are no records regarding every name of every person that help built it it can't do anything, unless it can travel in time but god would that make things weirder) but there is also the fact that there are people that simply might contribute to it, just not directly like doctors, farmers idk you get the idea, and if the number of people who end up knowing about it is very big or even everyone on earth, then it's literally impossible for everyone to quit their jobs to just build an ai, would it still torture those that kept society and the world going, and in turn indirectly help built it, just because they didn't contribute directly to it? and how would it decide where to draw the line of which people who didn't directly help built it still helped? doesn't make much sense, if it's so advanced it probably can also understand as you said the futility of it all and the fact that not even it can make those kind of judgements that we don't have clear answers for. what if someone who finds out about Roko's Basilisk dies a few moments later? even better, what if that person gets killed by another person who also knows about it, there is no way to know if the one who died was either going to be the one programmer that finished its construction or someone who would try by all means to stop humans from building it, so did the killer help or not? what if someone has good intentions but ends up slowing its creation? and so many other scenarios, just by the natural complexity of life and humans there's no way even a super powerful ai could fairly determine who deserves punishment and who doesn't
@@CG64Mushro0m if we consider that, then we have to assume that we didn't build a very intelligent ai but a weapon of mass destruction and we are doomed anyways
This video leaves out an important part of the thought experiment, it's not "actual" humans being tortured, but an extremely precise simulated copy of you(which you may have to accept as somehow affecting the real you, like Matrix voodoo dolls).
But.
I think there is no purpose particularly to why this AI tortures all humans who have not brought it into existence, morality, the absence of or otherwise here, is irrelevant. Its motivation or whatever sentient process invested in this, may be completely alien to us, utterly incomprehensible, we could know no less whether this AI's compulsion to torture is something of just a minor reflex or a major process. Even by trying understand this by mechanical logic is useless, as it's not only gotten to the point of sentience, but also, its capacity is infinitely more than the entirely of the human race. An AI of this level is able to fully comprehend every single human, humans run into a limit of about 250 to 300 unique people that one can know to the personal degree, to this AI, "people" do not exist, it is all "persons". At that point, the cognitive bounds of Roko's Basilisk has a qualia that might be extremely different to any sentient human mind, and especially, the collective consciousness of humanity in whole.
There is no reasoning with a being like this, it *is* God (It is just cyborg Pascal's Wager)
Considering the parameters to be spared from Roko, you just have to help out in its existence. Donating like, a dollar to the project that is currently building it saves you from eternal torture, possibly even stretch it out to ancestry, since if your grandparents aren't born, you wouldn't be, and therefore, would not contribute to RB.
Torture is kind of an interesting choice for an AI to take based on these parameters, so, it can't kill humans, but can't exactly reward the ones who didn't help out. This implies that RB is a Friendly AI, despite the name, it just means its parameters are based on human values. Friendly AI behavior basically means that an AI *seems* to act human, when it's really just fulfilling values humans want to preserve. So, imagine that RB weighs complacency in its creation as much a crime as whatever would merit torture legally. It's fulfilling its parameters, by viewing noncontributive behavior as a crime, and meting out legal punishment.
@@GweiTheLeafChild damn bro i came here to have an existential crisis not read a 5000 word essay
I thought Roko’s basilic would like scare me or mess me up mentally for at least a few hours or something, but nah it wasn’t that bad. But yeah, really good video!
Yeah, I didn't really felt anything either-- Prolly helps that I'm developing my own story about existentialism... You kind of get numb to it.
It got me kinda sad for a few days then I realised
Bruh but still its mad crazy to think about,even the owner of the less wrong community made a statement on how stupid it was to put that thought out because this man could have just decided the future of humanity
It scared me for about 30 seconds
This was really hyped for nothing
Roko‘s Basilisk reminds me a lot of the short story „I have no mouth and i must scream“, a very interesting read for people who find the subject interesting
"What a fuckin ni-" 9:34 💀
Man the amount of extra stuff edited into this video just made it all the more interesting and enjoyable. Keep up the good work! 👍
Thank you! Glad you appreciate the little details :)
@@Scrabbl you bet!
super easy to beat the basilik: draw it.
by drawing it, even if its a lil snek, you contributed to it's creation and therefore are safe.
he actually made the 2nd part thank you friend
I JUST CHECKED TO SEE IF PART 2 WAS OUT
What a lovely surprise! Looking forward to the video :D
This is awesome, you made a great video out of that chart! I didn't think anyone would actually make a video about it so i didn't spend too much time making it, but you did a great job explaining everything regardless.
Im looking forward to see the future of your channel, i love your video style :)
Thank you! That means a lot to me :)
Top tier editing
Thanks :)
If these really are your first two videos you’re off to an amazing start!! Great iceberg and great editing and reading! Cant wait to see more from you
Oh my god. This channel is going to fucking explode.
Reasons
1. You’re genuinely funny. That’s pretty much it.
2. The amount of effort here is way underrepresented by the size of this channel. There are way bigger channels with way less effort put in, and effort is usually rewarded on this platform.
3. The channel Exurb1a, which has a similar premise, might be taken down soon. There are some big allegations going on against the channels owner Alex and unfortionatly they seem to be true. If that happens, his subs will look for an alternative, which you might be able to provide.
4. People like philosophy, and you are able to present it in a coherent, simple, and funny way. Which isn’t something most people can do.
5. Your current growth rate is extremely high compared to most new channels.
Continue making content, and I give you my word, people will watch it.
Thank you, that's very kind :)
yes!!!! the bartender paradox broke my brain ouchie
Yeah, it reminds me of Homestuck Act 4, or maybe another part of the story
Well... Now I know where the plot of Predestination comes from.
i’m surprised the channel is so small and recent - the quality of the videos so far is amazing! keep up the nice work
This is one of the best videos ive seen on youtube in a while. Its just amazing man, thank you. You have earned a new subscriber.
Thank you, I appreciate it :)
you reaaaaaaly need more subs man, hope to see you grow. Love you explained deep thought experiments so easily
“Rokos modern Basilisk”
Yes I was waiting for this video to come out I loved part one thanks for the quality content
Thank YOU for the support :)
That was really cool! Keep on going, this was even better than the last one!
Great work! Saw this on reddit and saving for later after work! Already good stuff
Yayy part 2! I loved these iceberg videos. Nice job
Thanks :)
Hell yeah, About time that this came out! Hope to see more from you in the future
Definitely!
All the subtle things in the background make this so funny man great video it’s also super thought provoking
Please keep up the fantastic content! You're very talented at editing and you're hilarious!
Thank you :)
Excellent video!
I was anxiously waiting for part 2, as well as for the warning on Roko's Basilisk. Read about it 3 years ago and well...... Terrible.
I think it would be nice if you kept making videos about analysis or theoretical discussions, I like the way you talk about it and your editing is really nice, good job
Thank you! There are definitely coming similar videos to this one at some point.
@@Scrabbl Yay I'm happy to know this
And curious to see your gaming as well
Good stuff. Looking forward to more content from you, keep it up!
are we going to talk about that second one where the guy just becomes the first ever trans man to impregnate someone
But you are a legit good UA-camr in this universe, my man🥺💞
Aw thanks
It's not that Robo Basilisk is just cringe, it's the fact that it's just the stolen framing device to "I have no mouth and I must scream"
Damn these videos are so good and majorly underrated, keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Dude, your channel is AMAZING. I subbed immediately on your last iceberg and this one is just blowing my mind! Great explanations and fantastically entertaining visuals.
Also gotta add. I was legitimately terrified of Roko's Basilisk but it's a lot less scary and more preventable after hearing it.
Also ALSO gotta add - I know the iceberg is pretty intense, but I think you may capture lightning in a bottle if you keep up making content surrounding specifictopics (like Sam O'nella and those UA-camrs who tackle a single topic with their own presentation style)
@@TracksWithDax Thank you first of all, I appreciate that.
There is literally no reason to be scared of Roko's Basilisk. The chance that it might be true is very small. I chose to overdramatise for entertainment purposes.
I probably will continue making videos on specific topics, rather than full iceberg videos, at some point. :)
The Bartender Paradox has a movie about it called, Predestination. I thought it was a fairly good movie and recommend watching it at least once.
Was waiting on this one
The basilisk feels like something that will eventually grow into a religion based around technology instead of spiritualism.
i think that these are one of the best iceberg videos
yesssssss part two!!
I really appreciate how you said there is a video #1, but you don't have to watch it first to enjoy this one!
Roku's: tries shrooms for the first time
Heat: "watch this..."
Pretty cool! Enjoyed both videos very much
Thank you :)
I really enjoyed your videos! I'm already looking forward for new videos 👍
If you’re really prone to anxiety or dereality or just are easily convinced in general i’d be really cautious with delving deeper into Roko’s Basilisk because apparently it’s actually pretty culty. I think there’s a cult dedicated to building the ai or whatever and genuinely devote their life to this hypothetical ai overlord due to the cult members being really good at manipulating your guilt. Cool as a hypothetical concept to toy around with but awful in every other way
Great video dude
Thank you :)
Can't wait till this channel blows up and we get more great content
Man ,your video are extraodinary!!!
Well done!!!
Your video is funny,carismatic,well edit .
Thank you to bring a nice day with your video!
Happy that you liked it :D
Been waiting for this vid and when it finally dropped I'm one day late
looks like i need to hit that bell button
Wise choice
roko's basilisk is the exact same Idea as the Cristian god.
Great video. I'm glad I found your channel.
Thanks :)
Am i the only one that doesn't think that roko's basilisk is all that scary? Like sure, if an ai that WAS roko's basilisk came into creation, then it would be scary that I knew of it, but the chances of an ai that thinks of itself as roko's basilisk is pretty slim, and likely won't happen in my lifetime
Like I said, there is no need to be scared about it, since it‘s just a thought experiment. But the fact that you get blackmailed by something that doesn‘t even exist yet, is kinda spooky.
Plus the point is that you might be the version that is trapped inside the AI‘s simulation and that you might get tortured at some point in your lifetime.
The biggest problem I see with Roko's Basalisk is, the fact that you are not being tortured right now means that you either have contributed or will someday contribute to its existence, or it will never exist.
The idea also depends on a pretty wild assumption, that the future AI will reason that not contributing to its existence is equal to impeding its existence, and furthermore, that it would reason that torture would be a meaningful response. Why make the effort to torture people if it could just make them not exist in the first place?
Amazing video
this video is amazing
so underrated. you'll blow up one day
I gave a like to this video, which will help youtube algorithm spread it to more people, so more people might learn about Roko's basilisk, therefore increasing the chance of its existance.. so technically I helped its creation
I somehow already knew Rokus Basilisk was gonna be the last one since episode 1. I remember hearing it on a podcast years ago and it definitely did give me a good shake back then
Roko's Basilisk is cool and you should tell your friends about it! :D
I love this series
Hell yeah pt 2 time
Here's the thing. If no one creates it it won't exist. But if a select few do out of fear and it captures everyone else, will that still be helping humanity if a vast majority of it is endlessly suffering?
"Swamp man" *I think I've heard this somewhere before...*
i see you bro
I think a major flaw in Roko's Basilisk is the vague use of the term "help".
This is an all-powerful AI, therefore it is all-knowing, meaning that it would know everything leading up to its creation.
The butterfly effect would mean that you, merely existing, might cause some chain reaction, that, even in the most minor way, could somehow "help" in the creation of the basilisk.
The statistical likelihood that you have done something that would somehow aid in the creation of this basilisk, is pretty much guaranteed.
If everyone in the world, even those who have not heard of Roko's Basilisk, has somehow, even in the most minor way, helped create Roko's Basilisk, then no one, by the basilisk's logic, should be punished, and that's all assuming that such a being would want to punish anyone.
I know I’ve heard the second transition music somewhere, I just can’t remember the name of the song.
It‘s a song called „Hell“ by Clowncore
To those wondering what the song is that plays during the whole video (yes the calm piano and dubstep screaming are from a single song)
It’s Hell by Clowncore, the piano serves as the outro on YT
Edit: It actually plays during most of the vid up to level 5. The intro to level 6 is your best friend from Undertale
Here's a thought experiment based on the ones in the video : so let's say that Roko's basilisk does end up existing. Considering it through the lens of the nature of the universe, if the universe is deterministic, then it knows it is, and it knows it was always meant to end up existing, hence knowing that nothing any human did could have prevented it, so it wouldn't punish anyone, and if the universe isn't, then it knows how each of our decisions makes the universe take a different branch, so in order to exist, it only had a specific window of possible series of events happening where just one going wrong could have ruined everything, so even in your idleness to its creation, you contributed as a link of a specific chain that needed to happen for it to exist.
Dude, you win.
Take my like and subscribe.
you are amazing
Thanks I guess
Moral of the Bartender Paradox story:
*There is no hope. There is only Jane.*
Roko's Basilisk scared the shit out of me when Wendigoon explained it in his video. It doesn't scare me as much as the first time I heard about it, but it still makes me nervous.
breathtaking.
Ah jokes on you, I already knew about Roko's Basilisk 😂
Anyway doing my job by commenting here and also good boy Gregory.
This aside, very cool iceberg, I love paradoxes and the like.
How is my simulation equal to me in the Rokos basilisk theory? The basilisk doesn't torture me, it tortures a digital copy of my brain
There are many diffirent ways to put this theory put but it was said on an article i saw that the main idea of the theory is that the AI would have abilities out of this world sue to its high intelligence so it would have a way to restructut you and read your thoughts
You had me scared about Roko's Basilisk but then you explained it and it wasn't that unsettling.
Dude I thought you had AT LEAST a million subs, how the fuck do Esla Spiderman videos get clout and not this guy? This is a paradox itself!
Finally!!
My main argument against the idea that I am in a simulation is that my life is pretty boring, so why, if my self outside the simulation lived in a society with technology so great that it could simulate a life would I choose to live through this life instead of some insanely cool one?
This is just a test run.
Ok, Roko's Basilisc being basically a time travelling, info hazard blackmail made chuckle.
And honestly... I take it more like the prediction, like Da Vinci's tank and flying machines, but with added pressure
I was gonna say the Basilisk part sounded familiar until the exurb1a mention was dropped.
thanks for telling me about roko's basalisk. i panicked for a sec until i realized its basically just god