The Philosopher Who Took His Own Life
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Is it weird I have never heard of this guy, yet he and I have come to the exact same conclusion. Not, about god I’m an atheist, but death being preferable to life, and we still think you should affirm life. Damn, time to go readin’.
Are there any English translations of Mainlander's books?
"The philosopher that took his own life"
Well that didn't narrow it down at all.
Exactly
I was like, “neat he’s gonna talk about... who exactly?”
There's surprisingly few famous ones on the wikipedia page about it. Sad philosophers killing themselves is kind of a meme tbh
Heraclitus buried himself in shit and died
Socrates could be in that list
A philosopher was depressed? This is a shocking discovery.
Lmao 😂
Ă
That would be true for anyone besides Alan Watts or Terrence McKenna.
He must have been literally laughing while hanging himself, read more on his philosophy he believed in it so much
Am I sensing some sarcasm?
“The most miserable man of all time says that we should all just die, by the way, check out this cool wallet.”
Well done.
You should read Maxim Gorki if you really want to see miserable
@@268snake sorry to be picky but it's gorky
Lmaoooo
Not going to lie though, I'd rather buy that wallet and be a lowly materialist than kill myself.
If my psychiatrist was scared when I said I took interest into Nietzsche, I can safely assume she wouldn't ever want to hear me mentioning Mainländer's name.
Stop trying to impress your psychiatrist. Have you even read a full book by Nietzsche? It's confusing as fuck
@@yungmentalproblems Honestly I'm not to convinced the psychiatrist gives a toss if you live or die or maybe I'm just unlucky because I've been on a waiting list for 8 years to see a psychologist so that tells me all I need to know... They are paid to give prescription drugs out not to really care about us Animals
@@halestorm123 Your own failure with the system is no reason to project onto another, its taken me 12 years of failure and waiting to get Dialectic behavioral therapy along with fredudian psycho analitics and we do talk about philophsy in debt because they know for some patients thats teh best approach try and hang in there mate :D
@@halestorm123 This may sound anecdotal, but read the stoics and try and develop some humbleness towards life.
@@markusoreos.233 No thankyou I've got no interest with humbleness towards life I will leave that to you and the other stoics
When you start questioning everything you may not like the answers.
good one!
I kinda liked the answers ngl
Death isnt better than creation..
I both love and hate the answers, i’m 15 and in just 1 year my complete world view has turned from “normal” to complete absurdism, now it’s like i don’t have my feet on the ground anymore, which is freeing because nothing matters anyway so i can do whatever the fuck i want, but it also feels extremely empty and helpless in a way
@@naanbread4523 enjoy the ride man. Keep indulging urself into literature, philosophy and psychology. Your journey has just started. Good luck 👍🏽
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aaaahhh, nothing like a stickman induced existential panic on a friday afternoon
Very funny
hope ur ok
I have school tomorrow but I want to watch a depressed sam o'nella
Exactly
@@wereshark6921 Oh snap
When hearing about how kind hearted and empathetic he was breaks my heart, knowing he didn't have enough hope to continue living.
That’s how a lot of people are, it’s quite sad how they would spread light to those around them but in the end be stuck in darkness
@@Eltiburonmma I just wish I can specifically find the answer why
It’s always the kind-hearted and good-natured people who commit suicide, when they realize that the rest of the world is much more cruel.
@@mikudubskasai8725 because they realize in the end that all of their morality and selfish, and they just can’t deal with that fact
My favorite lofi philosophy class
Which other ones do you know of?
this isnt lofi
@@brandenbran you aren't lofi
@@brandenbran this is literally lofi
@@therealshamil6355 I am not sure you know what Lofi is. Lofi just means it’s low fidelity, like it is on an old tape recording. Its an aesthetics thing
He didn't take his life, he completed it.
"The Philosopher Who Took His Own Life
" - which one?
Weininger
I was thinking the same thing
jeffery epstein
socrates
I was thinking socrates.
One correction: Mainlander actually described his time in Italy as quite happy.
The cure to all suffering: Italy.
@@kenthefele113 Except for Rome. Don’t go there, it’s disappointing.
I loved Rome. It’s beautiful. 🇮🇹
I love how this man sneaks in little contemporary vernacular: “he hoped to earn some bread”
I don't.
@@dewdop I do.
@@staz8741 I was just playing, I do too.
we're considering 'bread' contemporary? to what, the 80s? what about bacon? salt?
cheddar perhaps I'd give you without a thought
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Other than the random add lmao
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facts until it's drowned out and overwhelmed with the youtube algorithm
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What podcast
What's it called and where can I find it?
Pessimism is humans approximation of realism
He predicted the big bang and heat death of the universe before we did.
He said the universe was once a sincularity, it begun fragmenting exponentially and is inevitably progressing into a fine mist of nothingness (through sheer pesimsm he created a proto big bang and heat death theory)
Does existence have a negative valueor does this just happen to line up with our theories of reality?
damn, the guy was so pessimistic that he predicted the heat death theory.
China already had a myth like that with a dead god named pangu. It's not really a new concept.
@@sibami12
I find it interesting because its not a new concept. Just an old one that has had a resurgence in popularity.
The human mind didn't evolve in an environment which required it to understand the universe and so I don't believe we're any more capable then a cat
Usually if you can learn about something in a school, atleast 1 person considered it a cool interesting fact worth sharing.
Big bang and Heat death are very interesting to alot of people because they discuss how the universe will end and how it started
Alternative theories to big bang and heat death theory, like the big crunch are having a resurgence in popularity.
Makes me wonder if these theories have hidden assumptions within them and only seem legitimate to us because of our human biases.
Everything is how we perceive it. "Real" has no meaning because what is real is defined by perception, and we all have different perception.
Mainlanders idea that the "it is better not to be" was just an opinion based on his perception and experiences. Someone else could be completely happy and optimistic and say the opposite.
How we perceive the world is how we construct it. Mainlander personally believed that death was the ideal and projected that onto god's will.
And i say projected because any typical religious person would say that mainlanders idea of god are flat wrong. And mainlander was probably aware of this.
Humans are like the a mixture of god and apes. We quite literally create the world individually and we judge other's as if we knew everything. This is a symptom of having an ego. The ego is what makes everything we perceive.
If mainlanders ego desired to die then the world desired to die.
@@carissawood1854 by your logic, even what you just said is just a perception and not the truth.
Phillip was the saddest philosopher I've had the pleasure to study. Although i do feel life to be a gift, i also understand where he and Schopenhauer came from.
No. Many of them had served their terms or ended it living with the life-hungry mob. Like you, are a danger.
Many will.
Peace is extinction.
You view it as a gift because you’re lucky enough to not have one that is constant suffering. Or had suffering thrust upon you yet such as war, mental illness, physical disease.
It’s always the people who don’t have shitty lives that think life is a gift. Every person I’ve spoken to who had a bad life just wanted it all to be over.
I find every philosophical idea I've ever had has already been made. Lmao, although I'm learning other things too.
If you thought of it individually away from others teachings it means the philosophical ideas are true a fact is a fact if it can be thought simultaneously by diffrent people
IKR . Sameee.Wtf I was gonna make this comment. Damnnn
Do you want a crazy perspective, you watch everyone around you die but have you ever died there's people who come close to death but do they die you don't know that you're dead and you'll never know you can feel yourself dying but once you're gone, how would you know so maybe it's an illusion that death is something that is made to be feared just so we think that we still need to evolve for the next day.
It's like thinking you're going to die and your whole life watching everybody around you die and until you realize that you don't die you will always have that fear in your heart
I'm just barely getting into philosophy but I find it fascinating how even the most depressing sounding philosophies still maintain a sense of hope
i was on my way to consider a choice that i will certainly regret today, looking back to it now. i was about to kill myself. I just want to thank you Sisyphus, I first watched your video "On Anxiety" where I also discovered "For Those Who Are Lost In Life". Sisyphus, I owe you a lot and yet I can't express how grateful I am to have been offered the privilege of discovering your videos during the lowest point of my life, they are truly gems. Thank you for creating these videos.
I'm glad you're doing better, if only a bit
Only optimists commit suicide, optimists who no longer succeed at being optimists . If you haven't killed yourself yet , it means you won't do it in the future and you're probably a pessimist according to Cioran . You simply cannot be grateful for someone who saved your life because:
1. You decide if you'll ever end your life.
2. It's better not to be alive .
@@diogenesthecynic1334 that's well.... interesting i guess, can you elaborate more?
"Lack of follow through" has always characterized "shut up navel disaster"'s so-called Life.
@@Aadhitiya_Murali i've said everything i wanted , i don't think i can elaborate more than that. Maybe if you point me to a specific idea .
I almost wrote "get a new mic"... then i realized id miss the vibe
Fuck the vide, it sounds just fine you rube.
I read the title.
""Do you have the slightest idea how much that narrowes down it down?""
You don’t seem to realize how many philosophers that title could relate to.
This whole plot of the world being gods rotting corpse splitting into multiple wills all arguing for dominance whilst causing suffering sounds so much like Dark Souls lore lol
The Dark Souls of Lore
The last time I was this early, everything was still made of water.
Title: The philosopher who took his own life
My Mind: So it's a 6 hour video about all of them?
His view of the universe is pretty interesting and kinda eerie because I'm pretty sure the physics theories describing the big bang starting from a singularity and the eventual complete entropy of the universe were not yet established.
The universe couldn't burn fossil fuels, we humans are God's plan to mine them and turn them into gas.
Like like I believe in the big bang but not like that because I believe in a universal structure as in God because if we were not constructed by something bigger and smarter than us then I feel like the universe would just be a whole bunch of dots and orbeez floating , but like we got planets, humans ,food, the unknown so I feel like it's a setup lmao ,
Just about you that we have been the Play-Doh of God
My perspective that God is a being of the entire universes energy that was tired of being nothing LMAO , OMG I just realized something if this is a experience from God I see why he makes us get up everyday in the morning because it seems like he went from being a flat plane of nothingness to everything doing everything being alive but even though you're asleep you're not dead so there's never nothing
@@kaynahenderson8679 You do realize that 99% of the universe was just “dots and orbeez” as you describe, right? Over billions of years, those smaller bits came together and formed into bigger pieces. 13 billion years is unfathomable to the human brain, but if you put a monkey at a typewriter and wait long enough, eventually it’ll type Shakespeare entirely by chance.
The greatest minds of man are often the most troubled.
And he wasn't a professional philosopher
"Professional philosopher" where do I get my certificate?
@@jazerasor1455 College.
@@theReeyver Oh shit! Which one did Diogenes go to?
@@jazerasor1455 He was taught by the Philiopsher Antisthenes, and Antisthenes was a student of Socrates. You thought you did something but you didn't.
to be human, is to experience the human condition - sometimes it be pleasing, sometimes painful, as it goes, the way of life - we could try not to classify the experience as good or bad, rather to solely see it as an experience, your individually tailored human experience
atleast this is how i cope with the pessimistic me
But how would you classify each experience?
@@whinda4702 i mean, for instance - one in pursuit of achieving something, fails, keeps failing - you may call this phase of life as "bad", hence "classify" - sometimes when struggling over and over, one is likely to feel tired and lose hope - here one may change his/her outlook on the phase and call it an "experience"
@@dharwit so wether it may be good or bad in concept we just substitute it as an experience?
@@talenikomeshokakujaha1771 i try seeing the whole of life as an experience, trying to not judge it as pain or pleasure - i say to myself, this experience is all i got, this idea is currently helping me cope with my occasional suicidal-ideations, i'm greatful
@@dharwit couldn’t agree more I believe life, although having no particular overall purpose, can have meaning though experiences. Maximising the quality and quantity of said experiences in life is what gives a life “meaning”. We have a limited time alive so why not experience it while we’re here. This is how I try to stay out of my more negative head spaces. Hope this reaches someone who has existential dread/depressive tendencies to seek a fulfilling existence. Stay strong
"Mainlander consumes the darkness around him, and in return, offered us light"
A very powerful word at the end
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Ahhh, a philosopher that I can get behind
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@@gallowshumor1784 sometimes, not now however, philosophy is my only solace. I hope you're alright though
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The world is the rotting corpse of god. Some philosophers really are 'out there'.
It hit different
In basic physics, it seems that the universe follows that principle. Entropy will just keep growing untill the heath death of the universe, when all becomes nill, cold and dark.
We are just machines made to use energy.
@@ivanmegafanboy1981 that was my first thought too and the singularity reminded me of the one before the big bang
@@ivanmegafanboy1981 It's the leading theory, but there's still cosmic uncertainty. I'd say too many concentric spheres/ellipsoids for the universe to be a closed deal.
@@ivanmegafanboy1981 When you think about it, literally everything in the universe strives towards a lower concentration of energy due to entropy. The lower the temperature is, the more complex connections there are, be it between elementary particles, protons and neutrons, atoms, molecules, etc. All of this is done to reach a lower state of energy, even the Big Bang started from an infinetly hot and energized singularity, now cooling out by expanding into nothingness.
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The philosopher who made entropy a philosophical analogy.
One must consider Mainlander happy
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Then there was Carlo Michelstaedter of the province of Friuli in what is now Italy ... A tragic case ... He started writing poetry at a young age ... mostly sad and tragic poetry. He studied philosophy and wrote a doctoral thesis at the age of 23 (if I am remembering correctly). This thesis (its title translated into English as "Persuasion and Rhetoric") was nominally about ancient Greek philosophy, but actually argued that a person who wished to be true to him or herself would have to be an outlaw, a social rebel, or a suicide. On the day that he received his letter saying that his thesis had been accepted and he had received his doctorate, he killed himself. His poetry was good though the earlier stuff did have all the failing of youthful excess.
Glad my boy Mainländer finally starting to get more attention
Feel like when you're in a state like this, which i have many times, where you feel as if death is better than living, philosophers like this guy make me feel better. A connection to someone smarter who can help speak your words with you. That's kind of nice, and why I am not a pessimists. That feeling is good, and untenable anywhere else.
death is better than living.
Exactly, there's comfort in living while also accepting nothingness. Like I don't have to stress as much about all the things I'm doing because I can also imagine myself as nothing. I don't feel apathetic to life or death or existence, but I accept the possibilities of existing and not existing. I'm trying to think of more casual wording so I don't seem like I'm trying too hard to sound smart, but I am failing.
bruh seek therapy or search some humanist moral existentialism@@HM-jl8pr
The universe will one day expand so much that there will no longer be any energy to feed off of, and it will be a black nothing. The idea that "god" is parting himself put in order to no longer exist is not a philosophy but almost a prediction. This philosopher was ahead of his time.
I was wondering when I'd see this video happen ☺️ Mainländer is a fascinating character. I can almost feel his gentle heart through the ages... 💞
You can feel such heart but can you understand the reasoning? The inordinate amount of suffering compared to that of fleeting pleasure encoded?
@@V01DIORE I try to understand it. I may not have felt how he's felt, but there's something there I can relate to.
I do not see those who ponder if they should leave this crazy world as crazy, but rather I do see those who wish to remain within such a crazy world as crazy.
Согласен, обычные люди сектанты. Они тоже хотят сдохнуть но боятся признать это
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This video was really something. Thank you Sisyphus and Mainlander. In a world where we are told to look on the brighter side of things it is refreshing to see that pessimism can lead to good things. In the blackest of nights the light shines the brightest.
In a strange way Mainlander sort of preempted the big bang theory. At least one unified whole disassociating is somewhat similar to the rapid explosion and expansion.
Man predicted the big bang before the scientists lol
The regularity and consistently high quality of your uploads is greatly appreciated. Hope your day is going well, man :)
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I have learnt to counteract my pessimism by learning to let go of my expectations. They are still there but I don't cling to them so much. Anyway thanks for presenting us with another interesting philosopher. Pity that we will never know what really set him off to take his own life.
There's no reason you had to counteract it. Pessimism is the correct view of reality.
@@ostracon5412 Totally agree. But prolonged pessimism is unsustainable and can lead to worst states that don't just affect one's mental state but one's health as well. Best just to learn to accept the fact that the inmates have taken over the asylum. Just don't follow them into the bouncy castles that are their padded cells.
@@redsparks2025 how do you just switch that mindset off?
@@tubbyrainbow111 Cultivate the state of mind called equanimity. But it's easier said than done.
@@redsparks2025 Were humans minds not meant to see reality as it truly is? Are we supposed to be ignorant, lest our sanities break?
John Frusciante had a song called "The will to death" and this guy immediately reminded me of it.
Always get excited when I see new videos from you, please keep it up!
Your videos are amazing, I hope your work never stops
*chef kiss* You almost make me want to throw away 70k+ a year and change my major from accounting to philosophy
You can be like Mainlander and philosphize while accounting.
Again, you have no idea how grateful I am for these videos.
I'm currently binging all your philosophy vids, I hope you get big
"He believed the universe was at one point a singularity. A perfect unity, and has since become fragmented since its conception. This unity he called god"
How did he come to the conclusion of this statement?? I mean the craziest thing is that our scientific knowledge today can actually prove this. During the point of the big bang the universe was a homogeneous singularity and ever since then entropy has been expanding it. And he thought of this decades before general relativity was discovered too.
This makes us all a form of decomposer like worms or fungi, feeding on and then expending the remains of the dead God until nothing is left
Anybody else feel like the idea of “death of god” is super similar to the real life idea of entropy and heat death, like the unity, or god could refer to the universe as a point mass at its inception, and as the law of entropy states, chaos in a system only increases, meaning like the fragmented pieces of god, perfect unity, or minimum chaos, is constantly being broken.
Absolutely what I thought.
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Don't know how I found this channel, but it's a pleasant surprise. Well, not exactly pleasant, but it's definitely stimulating the mind I thought I once had shut down. Hopefully, it's a good thing, but I don't really know. I can't predict the future, but I will enjoy the ride while it lasts.
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i think this one is my favorite, as a person, and on their views. i have no plans of dying early, but i can see how i could feel fulfilled thinking that i'm a small bit of the universe reaching bliss when i do eventually die
Thanks for the video, this sure is a timeless video! 😉
I find myself quick to criticize certain philosophers for being to pessimistic. But then I read up on their personal lives, and no wonder they have such a dark world view. Cioran, for instance: I would probably be on board with him if I had severe insomnia. Sounds terrible.
Lol, I've come to the conclusion that if something existed that could think independently without emotion or prior expierence. Any amount of philosophical thought or thinking wouldn't make them sad nor happy. They'd see everything and nothing to be the same, indifferent.
Thinking or philosophy make us humans peaceful, anxious, depressed, or feel other emotions is due to our biologically hardwired chemical processes in the brain. Closest we'll ever get to a thing that can think independently without emotion is a conscious computer, but we don't even know what consciousness is completely or how a computer would gain it. Also, computers have an objective ground to fall back on. Their code.
Leave it to Sisyphus to find the light and hope in the pessimist's will of rolling the rock ever uphill!
I'm digging the chromatic aberration effect on the line drawings. Adds a lot to the style
love the channel dude
Hello Sisyphus,
Great video, as always!
If I would have one request, it would be for you to write the name of the philosopher you discuss somewhere in the video, or in the description. It is difficult for non English natives speakers to understand who you are talking about if it's not written and it complicates further research on the new philosopher introduced.
Thank you for your work regardless!
exactly what i wanted to comment
He hung himself on April 1st as if he meant that his life was a joke...
Сегодня 1 апреля
@@user-hr4wt4ke5v Привет из Улан-Батора, где еще первое апреля.
Love your content, hopefully, you see this since I am early. You help to give meaning to my life, even if it's only for a short while.
This channel is Gold!
I want to end it all but I have no energy...
Sisyphus, you should totally do a video on John C Lilly. He was an immensely interesting person, with utterly visionary ideas.
Great video, thank you
Man, do you read all of the source material you reference? I always assume it's a combination of having read the works and researching the works. But kudos, regardless of how you do it. Very informative and extremely well-done. Thank you for you work my friend.
Ayo who got existential crisis,rise the f up.
in a perpetual state of pain gang
yurp
Dr. K
His last name is awesome. He was pretty cute too.
Annihilation... the movie... played with very similar themes. Really interesting video about what sounds like a very interesting philosopher. I'll have to look up his book. Thanks.
he needed a hug
he needed some shrooms.
6:24 "Mailander believed in psychological egoism. The idea that was is best for the individual is what makes one happiest." This isn't what psychological egoism is. Psychological egoism is a descriptive view, not a normative view. It says that all human actions are motivated by self interest, such that even apparent acts of altruism are still self interested. It says nothing about whether self interest consists happiness, or preference satisfaction, or anything else. It also says nothing about what we ought to do, what would be 'best', what is valuable, etc. You may be confusing it with rational egoism or ethical egoism.
“Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?”
Halfway into this video I got an ad for Headspace and that is somehow the funniest thing ever to me.
the advertisement made me laugh and after that it's bacc to sad homie hours
This is perhaps the most depressing philosophy ever
Try Emil Cioran then.
@@m-mori Cioran was a poser.
Thank you so much for the correct usage of the word reactionary!
😂 Great video as always
yay another one
hope you are doing well
THE PHILOSOPHER WHO KILLED HIMSELF, but first a message from the sponsor. 😆
This is so interesting, I didn’t know that a lot of pessimistic philosophers were reactionary
ugh, this hits close to home
The art style is strangely comforting
How did you get so smart in this stuff man? If I wanted to be this articulate about ideas, how would I go about obtaining those skills?
"human life must be some kind of mistake". Everytime I hear those words I laugh. 🤣😅😂
Another abominable limb of nature, the blind watchmaker cares not of flaws either genetically or memetically so long as they don't prevent progenitive behaviour.
Even the God of the Bible admits as such.
All life is a mistake
All your videos are great, they always tend to provide detail and a newcomer look into philosophy and in different categories. Big fan man hope you are doing great (:
Very well done.