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2019 Burton Malavita vs Burton Cartel Bindings
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2018
- 2019 Burton Malavita: bit.ly/2BAgmsf
2020 Burton Malavita: bit.ly/2qx4ntg
2020 Burton Cartel: bit.ly/2BEGEtG
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Awesome review. I ride an Endeavor BOD with cartel est bindings. This season I’ll have a warpig with union force bindings. Can’t wait to compare them
Solid quiver!
The biggest difference you will notice is in the stiffness of the base plates. The Force baseplate I find way to stiff...they feel almost dead to me compared to the Cartel feel. Rode them for half a season and than switched back to Cartels. Its all preference though.
Awesome video thanks.... it helped out a ton!!! Btw... think I'm sticking with the MALAVITA 😉😉
Solid! Glad to help! Thanks for watching!
Great information! Thanks Guys!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Been riding Cartels for years, love them. Switching to the Never Summer Shaper Twin, should I try out the Malavita?
(I'm in Burton Photon boots).
The 'Vita could be a rad binding on the Shaper Twin!
Hey dude im kinda intermediate level I've been snowboarding for 2 and a half seasons now and I'm looking to upgrades from rentals. I've been really interested in the descendant and was wondering is the cartel reflex would be good with them paired with the boa rulers. I mostly do all mountain but thinking about getting into the park.
That would be a really sick setup! Descendant with Cartels and Ruler BOA - so good!
I just bought the ones with da eyez cos’ they coolest
Those are the best ones! Great pick.
Awesome video! What would you recommend for a deep thinker?
Catels.
Getting a gnu head space and plan on doing a little terrian park riding with boxes/rails and medium size jumps. Will be crusing looking for jumps on the side of the trails as well as trying out 360 jumps and ground tricks What will be the better playfull binding?
I would say both the Cartel and Malavita are perfect bindings for that all mountain style you are describing. I am more partial to the Malavita, as they seem a little more diverse, and they are a Burton team favorite.
www.the-house.com/bt1mal06dg20zz-burton-snowboard-bindings.html
Hey Matt - new rider this year, been renting all season. About to buy my first board and looking at the riptide. If I went with a Cartel, would the reflex be better for long term in case my future boards don’t have a channel? I dont yet have riding preferences (still mastering greens and starting to touch blues). I don’t expect any park in my future, but hope to carve within the next 2-3 years.
Yo! Thanks for reaching out! The Ripcord would a great board for you, but instead of the Cartels, you could save some money and get the Burton Mission bindings. The Missions would match up better for your ability and for the Ripcord.
Looking in to a binding for a surf powder shape. Im stuck between these bindings or union atlas or contact pro, any suggestions?
The Malavitas and Contact Pros would be radical.
For freeriding and cruising and carving kinda hard and fast but not too fast on groomers and going through glades and hitting little jumps off natural features like side hits with a 2018/19 Capita Outerspace living i can't decide between malavita or the cartels. I am leaning towards the cartels because i don't ride park at all and have no interest in learning park or rails. Should i go with the cartels or would Malavitas be better? Any opinions or insight? They both seem like great bindings. I am a solid intermediate rider trying to progress
I currently have Union STR bindings but want the Reflex discs for more board feel
Thanks for reaching out! Both are great bindings and you can't go wrong with either, but I'd have to go in the same direction you're thinking. The Cartels would be the way to go!
@@thehouse Thank you for the input and replying so quickly. Love your video reviews by the way!
Right on! Thanks for watching!
Hi Guys, what would you recommend for the YES Greats and boots Burton Almighty: Cartel or Malavita or Mission? Thanks!
You have a rad board and boot setup! Great picks! If you're mostly riding groomers get the Cartels, if you're hitting mostly park and want a lot of comfort get the Malavitas, and if you want a great binding that does everything well at a great price get the Missions. I'd put Cartels on the Great. Red Cartels to make the colors POP!
Love your videos
Thanks for watching!
Appreciate the vid!
Thanks for watching!
Hi Guf, what would you recommend for the DOA: Cartel or Malavita? Thanks!
Malavita!!!!
@@thehouse I have the DOA and the Just got the Malavita WING TIPS last season as I like to ride switch and it actually gives you more lateral leverage for turning, buttering, power! Love the DOA/Malavita combo!!
I’m an instructor who rides over 100 days a year. I own a pair of cartels at the moment. However, I’ve been having issues with baseplates snapping. I contacted burton who were willing to give me replacements; I never followed up. I snapped two base plates last season; my first season hitting the big jumps. I was told it was due to my landings being poop. The bindings that snapped we’re older 2010-2014 pairs, has the newer models improved durability wise or will the malavitas be more flexible/durable for my use. I ask because I’ve been considering other options such as the malavita or swapping to union.
WHoa! That's crazy! Maybe you had a manufactures defect, in multiple pair of Cartels?! We've never hear of someone breaking multiple Cartel base plates. Maybe jump on the Malavitas?!
Cartels are too stiff to instruct on.
Hi matt, I have an Endeavor ranger, which one would be best for me Malavita or Cartel? And between boots would have better fit the Adidas Tactical or Deluxe id in the corresponding binding you chosen?
The Adidas Tactical's fit really well into any bindings. There isn't much difference between the Cartel and Malavita, basically the Malavita has the heel hammock and may be a little more soft. I would go with the Tactical and Malavita.
@@thehouse , i buy now Cartel because there are fewer decorations. heheheehehe and I followed your opinion. Thanks through your information channel.
Hi! what would you recommend for the Flight Attendant: Cartel or Malavita? Thanks!
Cartel
I have the FA and and Cartels EST, they seem to work together perfectly. Super reaponsive, snappy, handle chop great! Really can't ask for for a better combo personally.
Which ones for jones mountain twin? (for all mountain/side hits/powder)
Either one would be good, I prefer the Malavita.
Hi with a skeleton key I only ride piste and off piste but never park. Which pair of bindings do you recommend? Thank you !
I would check out the Cartel X. Little quicker response. www.the-house.com/search.html?keywords=“Cartel+x”
This season i am getting a Rossignol Angus board (trying something different) and i am in between these 2 bindings... any suggestions and recommendation? Or would you suggest a different binding for the Angus?
The Malavita's would match up really great with the Angus. Very comfortable!
Consider the malavita as a porsche 911 turbo and the cartel as a porsche 911 gt2 rs :-)
Wiem1731 loved the comparison! 👍🏻👊🏻
Hi! 😊 We have just bought for my boyfriend new custom x board and cartel x est bindings, but we have burton moto boots, which we have purchased earlier. I can still return the boots, do you think we should decide on sthg stiffer, like ruler or phantom. We bought the shoes for comfort, but now I am wondering.... Thank you in advance 😊
I would definitely go for a little nicer boot. The Moto is a super comfy boot but it is for sure a little too soft to be running such a stiff set up. Anything from the Photo up would be great. -> www.the-house.com/snbo-burton
can you ride older 3d burton boards by doing a disc swap on the reflex?
You sure can, Burton still makes 3D discs for the ReFlex bindings but they are not included in the box with the bindings. Most of the discs end up being wasted so they stopped putting them in the box. You can get a set from Burton or from The House.
Cartels are the OG 😎
Tru.
What would you recommend for the Burton amplifier? Which binding and est or reflex? Just riding blue groomers all day.
Get a pair of Burton Cartel's! If you get the EST version there will be more board feel, which is the point of them making baseless bindings and the channel mounting system.
@@thehouse thank you. I was eyeing cartels or malavitas. I'm not doing any park stuff. Wasn't sure if cartels are too stiff or just right. For carving I imagine they are just right.
Hi! With moto boa boots and custom camber board witch one would be better, Malavitas or cartel? I’m not really into snow parks yet, and rarely going off road.
They are so similar that I'm sure you wouldn't notice a difference.
Thank you
awesome video, i almost could hear something
Yeah, we've gotten our audio more dialed in since.
Hi! what would you recommend for flat trick and buttering on a BATALEON BLOW? Malavita or Cartel?
Cartel bro!
And on a ride twinpig? Cartel or malavita?
Which binding would go better with the lib tech orca?
As much as I love the Cartels, the Malavita would be a radical binding on the Orca.
@@thehouse what about genesis , looking for ripping groomers, tree runs. And powder no park. Maybe occasionally bank drops. But mostly all mountain.
The toe caps of my Burton Cartel was cut and ripped by the straps. I realize that I need to cut the extra length of the toe strap once I got it fitted to the boot, so as to avoid the extra length of the toe strap cutting through the toe cap when buckling, anyone having the same problem ?
Not on our end.
@@thehouse thanks
Maybe the temperature was freezing on my end. Happy New Year.
You forgot to mention the lack of the doubletake ratchets on the cartels this year. I'm just curious as to why that was changed to the regular ratchet for this season.
Price point.
Its so stupid even at 300 dollars for a picce of glass fiber reinforced plastic they cant even afford to give us nicer ratches the main reason i dont like burton (but i ride them becase there high end stuff is awsome) they are literly made out of the same stuff as hand drills but cost 3 times as much and they dont have a motor
Help out a color-blind dude... just picked up a Ripsaw and I'm going Malavita or Cartel. Not sure I can go wrong, but how orange-y is the matte red on the cartel? It looks like it works with the Ripsaw but I have yet to compare in person. Love my '14 Cartels, will I think the Malavita is too flexy? Is there a big difference or just a little one?
No, they are basically the same binding. The main difference being the Double Take buckles on the Malavita.
That's what I noticed other than color - are they better than what's on the Cartel? Just different?
Great video but what about the different toe strap and ladder? The Cartel have the classic and the Malavita the new ones.
You're right on. The Malavita bindings have the new updated Supergrip Capstrap 2.0 and the Cartel bindings have the tried-and-true Gettagrip Capstrap.
The House Outdoor Gear is it means that the cartel are less good?
I have the burton process 2020...pure pop camber.. cartel x or malavita???
Cartel X for quicker response, Malavita for smoother feel
I just got a Kilroy twin which should I get I had cartel but I need new ones please help
The Malavita and Mission would be dope!
For bataleon evil twin(all mountain ride not park) go for cartel or malavita ??
I don't know Bataleon but Cartels and Malavitas are good for anything.
I have malavita and i would like to know which lv should i set up for the highback 1,2 or 3 I would like to play around the park lap
It all depends on what feels best for you. Lots of people ride it with zero forward lean when they're in the park and tend to ride with the 3 setting for all mountain. Put it at 1 for a little and then more to 2, and then to 3... you'll be able to tell what setting is best for you.
The House Outdoor Gear what will happen when i ride with high lv like 4 or 5 forward lean?
The House Outdoor Gear may I assume that higher forward lean for carving rider
It makes a more acute angle for quicker heelside response.
Yep.
I'd live to know why people are so obsessed with Unions... I have only ever used cartels and have only one use but that is after the binding is 8plus years old was a sticky ratchet. My new cartels not a single issue and I love the flex strap they added
Preach!
About to buy a last year model Burton Custom 162W. A bit lost with the binding pick.. Would you suggest Cartel EST or Malevita EST? Board will be used mostly for powder and all mountain uses.
Both would be great. Malavita for more surf and comfort and Cartel for more precision and firmness.
Malavita or cartel for older guy with a bum back leg knee on a Burton process?
Malavita. It's a touch softer and less jittery in rugged terrain. Nice and damp for old bones and loose knees.
@@thehouse What i have been looking for. boom purchasing malvitas.
I've watched too many of these videos and read forums and can't get a solid determination. Cartels or Malavita? I will never do park, only do blues or blacks, I just like to carve and cruise. Recently picked up a Salamon Assassin and am worried that the board is too stiff for Malavitas? My friends are pushing me towards the Malavita because thats what they all own but they ride park a lot. Already bought both due to a good sale and will have to return one without testing them due to the return policy. Any insight would be great!
Honestly if you dont ride park I would go for the Cartel X. It has a little more stiffenss to it to make the Assassin feel a little quicker edge to edge. www.the-house.com/search.html?keywords=%22cartel+x%22+-est
What's the weight difference between the two?
I don't think there is any weight difference between the two. They are almost the same binding.
Great video, but still can’t decide between cartel x or malavita. I’ve been riding burton free style, but what something higher quality and possibly stiffer. I ride it all. Big jumps, park, groomers, moguls.
Honestly any other bindings in the Burton lineup will be a big upgrade from the Freestyles. As for the Malavita vs Cartel X, that is an easy one. IF you want a little smoother feel overall, go with the Malavita. If you want a super quick aggressive feel go for the Cartel X. BURTON BINDINGS -> www.the-house.com/snbind-burton
Chris I’ve also been riding freestyles but looking to upgrade! I just got a Flying V . Can’t decide which way to go between cartels and malavitas
Between the malavita and cartel, which is the closest to the union force in your opinion? i have union forces and really like them, but want to give Burton’s a try. Thanks!
The Force is kind of like the mash up of the Cartel and the Malavita. The Force has the simplistic complements like the Cartel, with the medium flex and feel of the Malavita. The best comparison within the Burton line would be the Mission. If you like the Force give the Mission a shot.
Can I ride reflex with Burton uninc 2x2 pattern?
Yes.
No you can't.
I'm lucky enough to still have a uninc from 2007 and its in awesome condition. Found it at a yard sale 2 seasons back and fortunately the previous owner took good care of it and had it stored waxed in a dry room so its still ripping.
Unfortunately the reflex pattern doesn't match up the 2x2 pattern of the uninc. If you set the bindings back or forth one notch witch the channel disc it would work but then my boot (adidas tactical, size 10.5) wouldn't be centered on the board.
What does work though are unions with the minidisc. You can rotate the discs 45 degrees and it matches the wholes just perfectly. But you can't move the bindings back or forth towards the edges and will be stuck with the bindings centered on the board.
I ride the uninc with union contact pros now works like a charm.
perfect video! i'm gonna buy a Paramount, what do you suggest?
Those Malavitas would be pretty bomb on the Paramount!
I have jones mountain twin 2020 and k2 myasis boots.Wich is better for me Malavita or Cartel? I like To do bit of everything with my boar.. Not so much jumps or rails.
The Cartel (bit.ly/342Q2D1) would probably be the better binding for your set up.
Genesis?
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cartel or malavitas on a hot knife?
Cartel.
What did Shaun white disappear and not riding for burton you would think his name would be dropped along with the others
Good question. It's the first time we noticed that he's not listed on the Burton Team page.
Some sexual assault stuff from 2016 got stirred up. Sponsors are heading for the hills.
A topic way less spoken about when it comes to reflex.. I get a ton of binding lift when I run reflex cartels on my deep thinker. I highly recommend est bindings for the channel. The duality of reflex is nice but I am concerned by the binding lift as I’m a heavy aggressive rider
You'll still get the lift with either binding as they both mount in the middle. But if you are worried about the lift check out some of the stiffer bindings and you'll get a quicker response edge to edge. Have a great season!
@@thehouse yah no I totally get that, with reflex its more prominent as your binding is mounted through the disk so you get lateral edge lift (on the binding) whereas the EST binds to the board at the edge with less plastic underfoot
Cartel vs Malavita for Yes Standard?
Either way you cant go wrong. If you have a little extra coin to spend do the Malavita. It has a lot of nice upgrades in the strap, ratchets, footbed AND Highback. Definitely worth the money in my opinion.
Spaceship
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Omg this the Exact question I have been scoring the internet for haha I have a Standard I got last year and have a buddy that will give me 2014 cartel or 2018 Malavita and I can’t make the choice.. this just did it thank you so very much. I was worried the Malavita would be too soft. Lol any other advice would be great but I think this is what I’m looking for :)