Anyone feel like they’re going 150mph down a mountain like the first clip… and then you watch yourself on a video and feel like it’s being played at .25x speed? 😂😂😂
Was he the guy in the video? He can ride certainly. Carves his turns, aggressive, probably can make quick cuts. I was better than him at carving. probably because I rode a longer stiffer all mountain board +10 rear +25 or 30 front. With an (optional) 3 strap lockdownable soft boot binding, I was about halfway to hard shell, but I could unclip if I wanted to be geekin the board around. Mostly I just liked powder & laying out really deep perpendicular to the snow carves though. There's a lot to be said for riding 90degree to 90degree turns with little loss of speed on a groomer day. More groomer days than not even at Snowbird or Wolf Creek. Wish I still had 2 legs 8)
I'm riding 60-80 days a year for the last 20+ years and I change my stance 15x a year. Helps my knees. I have a baseline that I consider the "best" for my ankles and my knees. But I still change it ALL the time. A little wider is always always ALWAYS better for me. Even though I'm considered short at 5'8". Don't be scared to change your stance. Buy your own screwdriver and take it to the mountain with you, It takes 5mins to do at lunch time. One notch in degrees can make BIG differences in feel, how your edge holds everything. Keep it small and incremental unless you know what you are doing. Another thing that people seem to forget when it comes to bindings is FORWARD LEAN. This makes MASSIVE differences in your edge hold especially your heel edge...... If you have heel judder or want more power in your heel edge add in some forward lean. HUGE HUGE difference in edge hold. If you ride Freestyle I understand why you dont want forward lean, you want your foot to be able to tweak and move for presses and stuff... I get that. BUT if you want to go FAST or ride all mountain forward lean is a MUST... With these two things you end up with like endless combinations to try even in a small stance window. If you cant remember your settings cuz you dont change them often take a picture with you cell phone of your favorite stance. Then go nuts and start trying new shit. It can make you a better rider in a day..... Literally. AND KEEP YOUR BOARD WAXED!
@@SearchofSnowboarding Yeah good video man. I rode a Mega Merc last season and loved how light that board was.... but it kinda bucked around in the spring snow. So I Switched to a Never Summer this season but I'm keeping the mega merc. That board has POP and its so so light. Love that board!
First test of my Snow Joe was a massive blizzard that dropped 20+ inches of snow with drifts well over 3ft. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN This snow thrower is definitely not designed for this much snow but it powered through it. We did have to knock down taller drifts with a shovel and at times the chute was awkward because snow banks were much higher than it could throw, but still much easier than shoveling. The plus side of the small size is the maneuverability. Easy to lift up to walkways and works in tight spaces near cars. Highly recommend.Note: after assembling it started but did not turn. The belt wasn't in place. Easy fix.
Can't belive you're still replying to comments. Amazing video, a lot of information compacted into a digestable video without oversimplifying or skating over important points. Thank you!
Anybody getting older and not riding park anymore, I’d definitely recommend trying out a slightly more narrow stance and also bringing that negative back angle down to zero if you’re still rocking the early 2000’s wide duck. Feels amazing ripping pow turns!
This is a good clip! Nicely done. You could mention two more things: - Centring the boot across the board (equal toe/heel overhang) is wildly important. - Finding the overall angle that works best for you and then keep it (at least roughly) regardless of riding style (Say you ride and love 18°/-6° as an all mountain stance, that's an overall angle of 24°. Now you go carving and want to ride double posi. You should probably start with something that has the 24° overall, like 30°/+6°. 30° on the front foot is absolutely not crazy for a directional setup. It really helps opening up the hips towards the nose, which is very important for hinging forward from the hip to get the torso over the front of the board....). And then there's all that stuff about highback forward lean and rotation.... I love the stance width thing with the lower leg. Been using that method for a long time, and it's mostly quite accurate as a starting point. Depending on pelvis width one can add or subtract a little. Say you're skinny and wear 30" waist pants, you could subtract about 1", while being rather 'wide' in that area you might wanna add an inch... Pelvis width determines how far apart your legs naturally are, and the lower leg equation doesn't factor that in. Anyhow, good stuff!
My wife brought me new snowboard for Christmas & I bought some new bindings, so I’ll need to set/install these soon. Thanks for explaining what it all means!
From Texas so I snowboard once a year at most. I'd say I'm on the upper half of intermediate. Park, pow, switch, carve, etc. Started off 15 0, but I found out after a few more trips that I love +12 -12. Going to Steamboat NEXT WEEK. Time to try something new? Loved the vid man, thanks!
By watching all these videos, it seems there are so many varieties of setup combinations. This video was the first I saw to measure the width of stance. Thanks! Will try this out tomorrow
I ride a 163 wide as I'm 6 foot 1. I ride 21 inch stance set back a bit for more powdery days. And my angles are 18 forward and 12 backwards to save my knees. Been riding since 92, and my stance has definitly changed as I've gotten older
Great explanation. I would add boot size= centering is equal toe and heel overhang, if any. This is one of the most problematic thing I see with newbs. But very informative and done well
My man. I agree with you. And those adjustments make such a difference on kinks I have come to notice. I ride Unions (as I’m sure a ton of us do) and I always am curious on what is REALLY centered. The heel cup adjustment on the recent unions is dope. But when I look to see if my boot is centered, it gets tricky because of boot material and curves of boot. For example, the heel of boots almost all slight angle up the heel. I wonder does anyone else slide there heelcup forward to really get true center?
@@INTHEFIELD777 There will be another video I publish explaining more adjustments such as Union's heel cup. It's a little complicated to explain in a reply comment haha
I completely agree. However you get the boots that fit right, so a lot of toe/heel overhang ultimately comes down to binding choice. The problem is that a lot of bindings don’t have that much range of adjustment. If a new rider is looking to even their toe/heel overhang, then their best bet is probably Union bindings. I don’t want to discourage anyone from purchasing bindings from other companies, because they all have their pros and cons, but Union probably has the most amount of binding adjustment on the market.
Been riding +15 -15 for years until I started riding directionals. Some days I set my stance at +18 +6 & other days I can get super aggressive with +21 +15. I have to say there's a bit of a learning curve for riding possy possy. Technique is a bit different, but the turns are so much fun. It'll be cool if there were more videos on turning techniques for riding possy. :)
You explained stance and everything really good, I do a lot of sports so I got it down fast but if I had no idea where to start, you put me right on track
That was really well done! I've been riding for almost 30 years now, and I adjust my stance often. Love the Burton channel system for that. Great for a bad knee and constantly changing conditions (and energy levels lol!) Subscribed 🤙
I started snowboarding in 1989 and I'm still going now at age 60. My first board had a fixed +45/+0 stance which I later changed to +45/+30. I'm still going that way today. Needs less twisting of legs and body, but of course is one way only.
Appreciate the information. I’m trying to absorb as much Information as I can before I take the first trip on a board in early December. I’ve skied, but never snowboarded, so I’m learning a ton of new stuff.
Hell yeah, you're starting out right as opposed to most people who think they can figure it out on their own. I will say one lesson on the mountain will go a long way for you. Stoked you're getting on board!
I just found the right stance then I saw this video ...and so I measured the distance to my top knee ....and it perfectly just like in the vid !!!! wow !!!!
Do you have a video explaining the stance on a snowboard? Like should I have a balanced stance where my weight is evenly distributed or more of a forward or set back stance for certain scenarios?
Could you do a video on reasons to change your stance? Like what issues or feelings you might have while riding, and what is the corresponding adjustment of the stance to improve the issue?
That's tricky because it involves slightly tweaking your stance to see if it helps with a specific issue. If everything feels comfortable, you shouldn't need to change your stance unless you are curious of what something else might feel like. An issue like too much pressure on your knees might mean that your stance is too wide and/or too angled
With a Burton EST (channel), it is possible to loosen everything, stand in your board on a carpet, and adjust for comfort / perfect stance. Then carefully step out and tighten the screws. This is why I won't ride anything that forces a compromise.
back in the days (1989 😬) they would tell us the stance width corresponds to your shoulder's width. I've been riding like this since! guess I'll have to try your advice 🙂
The info I shared about width in this video ends up corresponding to a stacked shoulder width too, but it ends up being a little wider than shoulders for most people
@Suz Are you really spending your time going through every single word I've written and said to nit pick and tear me down? That's how I talk, "stacked"meaning arranged above. You should spend more time shredding than arguing with people in comments, it will be good for you ✌
@Suz Your best angles are going to be what works best for you. His recommendation is just that, a starting place. 18/6 will still give you toe/heel drag on all but the widest boards. Soft boot carving on your setup may require risers or more forward angles, or both. What stance width and angles allows you to flex, move and stay centered comfortably on your board? What combination of angles and risers keeps you from boot out when carving? Depends on a lot of things.
@Suz Well done for riding on the top sheet of your board, you must look so f'ing cool on the mountain. People must dig you so much that they shower you with many bottles of champagne at the apre ski!
following the reference stance makes sense if your board has a hybrid camber profile or weird flex patterns. in that case, being at ref stance means that your board will perform exactly how it was intended to. problem is if you’re heavy for your height (like me) or very light, ref stance on your board size will not be correct for your body geometry. in conclusion, if you’re not exactly spot on with your BMI, buy a board which is very uniform in flex and camber profile. all hard, all soft, all rocker, all flat, all camber. it’ll be more tweakable and it won’t behave unpredictably
Weight should not affect where your stance is on the board, picking the right size board for your weight is more the issue. Reference stance will help you to determine the proper alignment on a board regardless of rider weight
I snowboard 33 years already and learned it old school. Still riding old school with my binding angels front 30 and back foot 27 into the same direction. With my hard boots and board this was even 36 and30. 😅
@@SearchofSnowboardingThanks! I was able to micro adjust each of my union bindings toward the center to achieve the distance from foot to knee. Feels great
I haven't snowboarded in a while and plan to get back into it. I ride a skateboard goofy but remember riding switch for snowboarding. I think I had a 15 degree angle on both feet.
I was a professional for 3 years. Here’s what I can say from a slopestyle perspective. As far as stance angle goes anything past 18 degrees is likely too aggressive. Most pro riders are around the 15 to 9 range front or back. Mine was personally +15 front -12 in the back. A pro with the most odd stance that I ever saw, +15 in the front and 0 in the back. Odd, because for myself that makes riding switch feel less comfortable. Whatever feels best is what I would advise though-with in 18 degrees! (Anything over 36 degrees in total, long term is very hard on the knees.) It may feel more comfortable in the moment but trust me, it’s not worth a blown meniscus, or ACL. Moving into stance width, for somebody who is 5’4 to 6 feet tall, your stance should be no narrower than 21 inches. My recommendation is 22 to 23.5. If you are taller than 6 feet than no wider than 25 inches and no less than 22. I say this because it seems to be a trend now where some rail riders will aggressively narrow their stance down to 18 to 21. Ergonomically it simply isn’t practical and is only restricting to your balance and board control😂.The baseball swing example that this video makes is dead on! So from a #’s perspective if you want a freestyle tailored stance, I hope this helps. Lastly for freestyle you ALWAYS want to be perfectly centered in the board. Your nose should never be longer than your tail vise versa…ever.
@@chewbaccassecretlover12444 make sure you are perfectly centered this way as you are alternating from goofy to regular it won’t feel weird. +15 -15 will work just fine, that is a great angle. You want both toes to stick outwards. Good luck and have fun!
Meh. There's no hard and fast rules. I'm 6' 2" and my preferred stance width is anywhere from 21.5" - 22.5" with 21.75" being the sweet spot. And I like +18-21 degrees in the front and 0 to -3 degrees in the rear. The sweet spot for me, in deep backcountry pow, is +21/0. On-piste in a resort: +18/-3. I don't ride switch all that much. I'm more of a hard-charger/free-ride carving type. I agree about the total angle though. Shouldn't be more than 30 degrees or so, otherwise it can lead to knee issues over time.
Great video and the info is top! I wanted to ask something: if you ride a board that is bigger than your normal , should you increase the stance width also for the bindings or keep the same, which should be the measurement of your lower leg?
@@SearchofSnowboarding good advice. 12 -12 is a better spot. Gives your knees enough mobility to push power down using your quads. 15 -15 is too much for most cases as mechanically, your knees are designed to bend at a 90 degree angle relative to your hips. It is a more stable stance but does not allow you to be knee mobile and will stop you from doing jibs, butters, etc
Oh man, 0 0 will kill your knees if you ride alot. Try doing a squat and open your toe angles up a bit until you see what is comfortable for your body.
3rd attribute is: Goofy or Regular stance :--D 4th for a carving style rider like me is the putting plates under my bindings to make them higher. I just ordered Palmer Power Link System (PLS) 13mm plates to put on my new board: Lib Tech's Skunk Ape II 170 Ultra Wide. Because it's not quite wide enough for my big feet and carving.
@@SearchofSnowboarding It's a combination of big feet (Boot size 46 EUR) and STEEP carving. I've been riding a Burton Factory prime race board with hard boots for 10+ years so I'm used to steep/extreme carves. In those carves the board can be at 90 degree angle i.e. straight up on it's edge. In that situation it's very frustrating to fall out of the carve due to the bindings hitting the slope.
I’m a goofy rider and I’ve always gone positive front side and 0 backside but as I’ve gotten more advance I find it hard to carve my toe side, what angle do you recommend me using
Hi, great vid, just a question, when you are measuring the board to find the holes, where do you hold the tip of the tape measurer, at the other holes?
My first board before I had read anything had a stance width of 20.75". It was very comfortable to learn on. Second board I set at 22.75" based on my height and felt like I regressed. New muscles were sore, and standing upright on flats felt uncomfortable. I just turned it back to 22" for my next outing. Is it common for such small changes to feel so different?
So my Burton blunt I have union bindings and at 15 and 15 I was only able to use 3 screws. Does that sometimes happen or the did the tech shop not now what they were doing. It was an old og snowboarder that was a coach for one of the Olympic teams so i figured he knew what he was doing lol.
If the board is older and has a 3-hole diamond pattern, then yes you would only use three holes, but only if you have the proper Burton 3-hole disk. Otherwise if you have a 4X2 patten on your board you should be using 4 holes
It will definitely be easier to ride switch, but your original stance will be a little better for carving. Everyone's different so you'll just need to see how the new stance feels with body positioning
The only thing I didnt see is actual binding placement on board. If I'm ripping powder on a storm day, should my bindings be toward the back of my board to maximize float?
Some people set their bindings back on a pow day, I personally don't move my bindings. Doing so will give you more nose and more float, but if you've got a board meant to ride pow you're all ready set up for sucess
Well, Mr Monkey Wrench here. On narrow race/carving boards I use 58/53 on about a 19.5 to 20 inch width. Freeride with harboots (AT boots usually) 45F/30R on 19.75 inch width. Soft boot setup is usually 30F/15R or so around the same width. And yes, I can ride fakie on all of them, not as well as the duck foot guys but well enough to get outta trouble or messing around riding essentially backwards...BTW my first step in bindings we're original Switch bindings, just to date myself.
I have a question regarding the first-time trial angle at 3:25; my right foot is my dominant foot. Just to confirm, I only need to flip the bindings to face down and the angle would still be the same right?
Thanks man, I didn't think to change the position all the time as you explained, like it. I started snowboarding at +15/-9 and then moved to +21/-9 What is the next step you would recommend for me? And yes, this stance is less comfortable for me in bidirectional ride
If you're trying to mess around to find a more comfortable stance from where you started, I can't really tell you where to go next. If it feels like too much angle on the front foot, dial back a little. If it feels like too little angle on the back foot for switch riding, try another 3 deg
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Anyone feel like they’re going 150mph down a mountain like the first clip… and then you watch yourself on a video and feel like it’s being played at .25x speed? 😂😂😂
Hah yep, same with longboarding.
That's why you've got to ride with style so you look good no matter what speed
Always
me with tricks 😂 I’ll hit a smooth 180 on a side hit or something & feel so badass. go look at the video & I look like an amateur going 2 mph 😭
So true!
Good video and no one looks more credible as a snowboarder than this guy.
Yeeew 🤙🤙
Was he the guy in the video? He can ride certainly. Carves his turns, aggressive, probably can make quick cuts. I was better than him at carving. probably because I rode a longer stiffer all mountain board +10 rear +25 or 30 front. With an (optional) 3 strap lockdownable soft boot binding, I was about halfway to hard shell, but I could unclip if I wanted to be geekin the board around.
Mostly I just liked powder & laying out really deep perpendicular to the snow carves though. There's a lot to be said for riding 90degree to 90degree turns with little loss of speed on a groomer day. More groomer days than not even at Snowbird or Wolf Creek.
Wish I still had 2 legs 8)
I'm riding 60-80 days a year for the last 20+ years and I change my stance 15x a year. Helps my knees. I have a baseline that I consider the "best" for my ankles and my knees. But I still change it ALL the time. A little wider is always always ALWAYS better for me. Even though I'm considered short at 5'8". Don't be scared to change your stance. Buy your own screwdriver and take it to the mountain with you, It takes 5mins to do at lunch time. One notch in degrees can make BIG differences in feel, how your edge holds everything. Keep it small and incremental unless you know what you are doing. Another thing that people seem to forget when it comes to bindings is FORWARD LEAN. This makes MASSIVE differences in your edge hold especially your heel edge...... If you have heel judder or want more power in your heel edge add in some forward lean. HUGE HUGE difference in edge hold. If you ride Freestyle I understand why you dont want forward lean, you want your foot to be able to tweak and move for presses and stuff... I get that. BUT if you want to go FAST or ride all mountain forward lean is a MUST... With these two things you end up with like endless combinations to try even in a small stance window. If you cant remember your settings cuz you dont change them often take a picture with you cell phone of your favorite stance. Then go nuts and start trying new shit. It can make you a better rider in a day..... Literally. AND KEEP YOUR BOARD WAXED!
All great tips for everybody
@@SearchofSnowboarding Yeah good video man. I rode a Mega Merc last season and loved how light that board was.... but it kinda bucked around in the spring snow. So I Switched to a Never Summer this season but I'm keeping the mega merc. That board has POP and its so so light. Love that board!
I think this advice/comment deserves its own video!
@suz4359 there is no wrong and wright angle.
@suz4359 i d like to go for a shred with you. I have proven many people
I'm about to buy a snowboard and I had no idea how to adjust the bindings before I saw this video. Thanks a lot mate for sharing Your expertise
Great, now you're set!
First test of my Snow Joe was a massive blizzard that dropped 20+ inches of snow with drifts well over 3ft. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxoHYZbq5g9fkcAtinlTqstNlje-UQkCHN This snow thrower is definitely not designed for this much snow but it powered through it. We did have to knock down taller drifts with a shovel and at times the chute was awkward because snow banks were much higher than it could throw, but still much easier than shoveling. The plus side of the small size is the maneuverability. Easy to lift up to walkways and works in tight spaces near cars. Highly recommend.Note: after assembling it started but did not turn. The belt wasn't in place. Easy fix.
How do you not have more subs? Your videos are probably the most informative out of all I have watched… thank you!
Thanks so much! We're working on it, but proud of the community we've already grown
Can't belive you're still replying to comments. Amazing video, a lot of information compacted into a digestable video without oversimplifying or skating over important points. Thank you!
You got it dude! Try to reply as much as possible, even when catching up on summer comment haha
This is the perfect video to jump from beginners snowboarding stands to more advance ones. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
Thanks so much! I just adjusted my dad's old snowboard to my size, and it looks great! Keep up the good work!
Randomly had tape measure and measured my leg, then compared to my current setup... exactly the same. Can confirm!
Same story!👊👊
So funny how that works
Yeah that was super weird. I ride 21.5 and measured and it was exact 21.5. Kinda creepy
Anybody getting older and not riding park anymore, I’d definitely recommend trying out a slightly more narrow stance and also bringing that negative back angle down to zero if you’re still rocking the early 2000’s wide duck. Feels amazing ripping pow turns!
It is nice to adjust your stance for your body over time
Have been thinking I need to do exactly this. Glad to hear it worked for you, im gonna try it
Agreed
Just starting my first ride since 2012. I was just wondering if I should change something.
@@pointtheblame Go out and ride and see if your current stance feels comfortable first
This is a good clip! Nicely done.
You could mention two more things:
- Centring the boot across the board (equal toe/heel overhang) is wildly important.
- Finding the overall angle that works best for you and then keep it (at least roughly) regardless of riding style (Say you ride and love 18°/-6° as an all mountain stance, that's an overall angle of 24°. Now you go carving and want to ride double posi. You should probably start with something that has the 24° overall, like 30°/+6°. 30° on the front foot is absolutely not crazy for a directional setup. It really helps opening up the hips towards the nose, which is very important for hinging forward from the hip to get the torso over the front of the board....).
And then there's all that stuff about highback forward lean and rotation....
I love the stance width thing with the lower leg. Been using that method for a long time, and it's mostly quite accurate as a starting point.
Depending on pelvis width one can add or subtract a little. Say you're skinny and wear 30" waist pants, you could subtract about 1", while being rather 'wide' in that area you might wanna add an inch... Pelvis width determines how far apart your legs naturally are, and the lower leg equation doesn't factor that in.
Anyhow, good stuff!
As a new snowboarder what seasoned athlete.... I appreciate mastery and expertise and you really know your stuff. Thanks for helping me fix my stance!
Right on, happy to help!
Great recommendations. I have been snowboarding since the '80s and this is a good summary of stances. Wish I had this when I started.
Glad you enjoyed it!
My wife brought me new snowboard for Christmas & I bought some new bindings, so I’ll need to set/install these soon. Thanks for explaining what it all means!
Glad it was helpful, sounds like you found this video at the perfect time
Duck foot +12 -12 baby, all day. Freestyle Arbor Camber and for my All terrain board a Capita Mega Mercury with rear at -6 and front at +15
From Texas so I snowboard once a year at most. I'd say I'm on the upper half of intermediate. Park, pow, switch, carve, etc. Started off 15 0, but I found out after a few more trips that I love +12 -12. Going to Steamboat NEXT WEEK. Time to try something new? Loved the vid man, thanks!
Hell yeah thanks dude! Rip it up, Steamboat has been getting great snow recently!
By watching all these videos, it seems there are so many varieties of setup combinations. This video was the first I saw to measure the width of stance. Thanks! Will try this out tomorrow
Oh yeah, stance measurement is a major adjustment to know
I ride a 163 wide as I'm 6 foot 1. I ride 21 inch stance set back a bit for more powdery days. And my angles are 18 forward and 12 backwards to save my knees. Been riding since 92, and my stance has definitly changed as I've gotten older
Sent this to some of my new students/ride friends as it was a PERFECT breakdown.
That's awesome to hear!
Great explanation. I would add boot size= centering is equal toe and heel overhang, if any. This is one of the most problematic thing I see with newbs. But very informative and done well
Good point, that will probably be in part 2
My man. I agree with you. And those adjustments make such a difference on kinks I have come to notice. I ride Unions (as I’m sure a ton of us do) and I always am curious on what is REALLY centered. The heel cup adjustment on the recent unions is dope. But when I look to see if my boot is centered, it gets tricky because of boot material and curves of boot. For example, the heel of boots almost all slight angle up the heel. I wonder does anyone else slide there heelcup forward to really get true center?
@@INTHEFIELD777 cereal box…. Boot centered not binding
@@INTHEFIELD777 There will be another video I publish explaining more adjustments such as Union's heel cup. It's a little complicated to explain in a reply comment haha
I completely agree. However you get the boots that fit right, so a lot of toe/heel overhang ultimately comes down to binding choice. The problem is that a lot of bindings don’t have that much range of adjustment.
If a new rider is looking to even their toe/heel overhang, then their best bet is probably Union bindings.
I don’t want to discourage anyone from purchasing bindings from other companies, because they all have their pros and cons, but Union probably has the most amount of binding adjustment on the market.
Been riding +15 -15 for years until I started riding directionals. Some days I set my stance at +18 +6 & other days I can get super aggressive with +21 +15. I have to say there's a bit of a learning curve for riding possy possy. Technique is a bit different, but the turns are so much fun. It'll be cool if there were more videos on turning techniques for riding possy. :)
i was riding like this my first 6 years, i switch to +21 -12 and for me its the perfect MIX!
a lot of the japanese riders do possy. I been doing +36, +24 the last two years, so fun on those aggressive euro carving turns.
It might be fun if we made a video on totally changing our stances to posi posi
@nichlive this EXACTLY what I ride. I feel it gives me the aggressiveness I need on the mountain.
@@Cubeinhand2q yeah!! and riding switch and landing 180s i felt good too!
You explained stance and everything really good, I do a lot of sports so I got it down fast but if I had no idea where to start, you put me right on track
Sweet, thanks dude!
The only video that should be about this topic is your. Huge thanks dude!!!
Than you, appreciate that!
I've been using +15 -15 for 20 years. Freestyle for life!
I'm with ya!
That was really well done!
I've been riding for almost 30 years now, and I adjust my stance often. Love the Burton channel system for that. Great for a bad knee and constantly changing conditions (and energy levels lol!) Subscribed 🤙
Much appreciated!
Great explanation, this is just what I was looking for and more
Awesome! Stay tuned for more videos like this
I started snowboarding in 1989 and I'm still going now at age 60. My first board had a fixed +45/+0 stance which I later changed to +45/+30. I'm still going that way today. Needs less twisting of legs and body, but of course is one way only.
Right on, keep it going!
great explainer on stance angles! especially love the reference stances for particular styles of riding :D
Thanks dude, Wanted to make this because I know how confusing it can be
Appreciate the information. I’m trying to absorb as much Information as I can before I take the first trip on a board in early December. I’ve skied, but never snowboarded, so I’m learning a ton of new stuff.
Hell yeah, you're starting out right as opposed to most people who think they can figure it out on their own. I will say one lesson on the mountain will go a long way for you. Stoked you're getting on board!
This was the most straightforward video I ever watched yet 😅
I'm glad, my goal with these is to make confusing points understandable
exactly what I needed. thanks!
Been snowboarding for 20 years and still found this educational haha. Thanks
Awesome, great to hear!
I just found the right stance then I saw this video ...and so I measured the distance to my top knee ....and it perfectly just like in the vid !!!! wow !!!!
I know funny right, I had actually never measured my leg and it was the same for me haha
this was super useful. very short and informative the whole time. perfect, thanks!!
Glad it was helpful!
Awesome video ! Thanks so much !
im from iowa and im a newbie.. thanks a ton man i appreciate you!!
You got it, hope you're ripping it up this winter!
Do you have a video explaining the stance on a snowboard? Like should I have a balanced stance where my weight is evenly distributed or more of a forward or set back stance for certain scenarios?
You'll never want your stance set forward towards the nose. Mostly centered, some boards are nice to set back for big pow days though too
Could you do a video on reasons to change your stance? Like what issues or feelings you might have while riding, and what is the corresponding adjustment of the stance to improve the issue?
That's tricky because it involves slightly tweaking your stance to see if it helps with a specific issue. If everything feels comfortable, you shouldn't need to change your stance unless you are curious of what something else might feel like. An issue like too much pressure on your knees might mean that your stance is too wide and/or too angled
I wish I had seen this video years ago. So many things make sense now. Thank you so much!! This has been an invaluable video!!
Oh thank you, that's great to hear!
Great video. Super helpful!
Very helpful and great details and videos. Thank you!!!
You're very welcome!
thanks bro great video
You got it dawgie!
Thanks for the really informative video! Helped me set up my board perfectly this year.
Thx you bro that was super helpful
You got it, we'll have a bunch more coming out like this soon!
With a Burton EST (channel), it is possible to loosen everything, stand in your board on a carpet, and adjust for comfort / perfect stance. Then carefully step out and tighten the screws. This is why I won't ride anything that forces a compromise.
Yeah never thought of that but that would definitely be a good way to figure it out too
Wow this was the most helpful video honestly. Thank you
Glad it helped you out!
DUDE! Thank you. Exactly what I needed to know. Setting my unions right meow.
Right on, rip it up!
Very useful information in a concise video. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Thanks for the trips bro! Great video!
You bet!
You just cleared up so many questions I’ve had about my bindings and stance. Thank you! 🥲
You're welcome, one more thing you should be confident with boarding now
back in the days (1989 😬) they would tell us the stance width corresponds to your shoulder's width. I've been riding like this since! guess I'll have to try your advice 🙂
The info I shared about width in this video ends up corresponding to a stacked shoulder width too, but it ends up being a little wider than shoulders for most people
@Suz Are you really spending your time going through every single word I've written and said to nit pick and tear me down? That's how I talk, "stacked"meaning arranged above. You should spend more time shredding than arguing with people in comments, it will be good for you ✌
@Suz Your best angles are going to be what works best for you. His recommendation is just that, a starting place. 18/6 will still give you toe/heel drag on all but the widest boards. Soft boot carving on your setup may require risers or more forward angles, or both. What stance width and angles allows you to flex, move and stay centered comfortably on your board? What combination of angles and risers keeps you from boot out when carving? Depends on a lot of things.
@Suz Well done for riding on the top sheet of your board, you must look so f'ing cool on the mountain. People must dig you so much that they shower you with many bottles of champagne at the apre ski!
wow I really like this video! thanks very informative
Glad it was helpful!
super helpful and best explanation I've heard; thanks!
You're very welcome!
Thanks for the info Shane. It’s a reminder for me to play with the stance angles some more.
Yeah I think it's something everyone should mess around with a little more, including myself
Great video. really well put together. 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you 🙏🏻
following the reference stance makes sense if your board has a hybrid camber profile or weird flex patterns. in that case, being at ref stance means that your board will perform exactly how it was intended to. problem is if you’re heavy for your height (like me) or very light, ref stance on your board size will not be correct for your body geometry. in conclusion, if you’re not exactly spot on with your BMI, buy a board which is very uniform in flex and camber profile. all hard, all soft, all rocker, all flat, all camber. it’ll be more tweakable and it won’t behave unpredictably
Weight should not affect where your stance is on the board, picking the right size board for your weight is more the issue. Reference stance will help you to determine the proper alignment on a board regardless of rider weight
awesome video! superhelpful🤩
So glad!
Yo this is crazy that this is in my recommended. Im Dan from the beach, nice video Shane!
Daniel what up! You gonna be shredding a bunch this year? Stoked you found the channel
@@SearchofSnowboardingIll be out there!
Helpful for beginner, thanks 👍👍
Of course! More videos like this coming soon
I snowboard 33 years already and learned it old school. Still riding old school with my binding angels front 30 and back foot 27 into the same direction. With my hard boots and board this was even 36 and30. 😅
Old school for sure haha! Ride what you know
Handy. Well played bloke.
Ay you got it
What do you think about +24 -9 and +21 -12? I was using this since 2 years and for me its the sweet spot to ride almost everything!
Doesn't matter what I think, as long as it feels good for you. 21, -12 sounds like it would be more comfortable
It looks like I need to narrow my stance a bit, should I move my back binding up or my front binding down?
You can move both towards the center, but if you need to only move one, make sure your tail is never longer than your nose
@@SearchofSnowboardingThanks! I was able to micro adjust each of my union bindings toward the center to achieve the distance from foot to knee. Feels great
Great video 🤘
Thank you 👊
I haven't snowboarded in a while and plan to get back into it. I ride a skateboard goofy but remember riding switch for snowboarding. I think I had a 15 degree angle on both feet.
Start there again when you get back into it and see how it feels
I was a professional for 3 years. Here’s what I can say from a slopestyle perspective. As far as stance angle goes anything past 18 degrees is likely too aggressive. Most pro riders are around the 15 to 9 range front or back. Mine was personally +15 front -12 in the back. A pro with the most odd stance that I ever saw, +15 in the front and 0 in the back. Odd, because for myself that makes riding switch feel less comfortable. Whatever feels best is what I would advise though-with in 18 degrees! (Anything over 36 degrees in total, long term is very hard on the knees.) It may feel more comfortable in the moment but trust me, it’s not worth a blown meniscus, or ACL. Moving into stance width, for somebody who is 5’4 to 6 feet tall, your stance should be no narrower than 21 inches. My recommendation is 22 to 23.5. If you are taller than 6 feet than no wider than 25 inches and no less than 22. I say this because it seems to be a trend now where some rail riders will aggressively narrow their stance down to 18 to 21. Ergonomically it simply isn’t practical and is only restricting to your balance and board control😂.The baseball swing example that this video makes is dead on! So from a #’s perspective if you want a freestyle tailored stance, I hope this helps. Lastly for freestyle you ALWAYS want to be perfectly centered in the board. Your nose should never be longer than your tail vise versa…ever.
I'm a fust time snowboarder start next week :) . Is freestyle fine +15 +15 ? Just to know the basics. I also don't know I'm goofy or regular yet so.
@@chewbaccassecretlover12444 make sure you are perfectly centered this way as you are alternating from goofy to regular it won’t feel weird. +15 -15 will work just fine, that is a great angle. You want both toes to stick outwards. Good luck and have fun!
Meh. There's no hard and fast rules. I'm 6' 2" and my preferred stance width is anywhere from 21.5" - 22.5" with 21.75" being the sweet spot. And I like +18-21 degrees in the front and 0 to -3 degrees in the rear. The sweet spot for me, in deep backcountry pow, is +21/0. On-piste in a resort: +18/-3. I don't ride switch all that much. I'm more of a hard-charger/free-ride carving type. I agree about the total angle though. Shouldn't be more than 30 degrees or so, otherwise it can lead to knee issues over time.
Sick video! Thank you brother!
You are totally welcome!
Nice video!
Greeting from Russia
Thank you! Cheers!
Super helpful tips
Glad it was helpful!
Im always an inch closer to the tail, it helps keep the tail from wondering when you're leaning forward for aggressive carving and floating in powder.
Good job Shane 🤙🏽
Thanks, Jimmy!
Great video and the info is top! I wanted to ask something: if you ride a board that is bigger than your normal , should you increase the stance width also for the bindings or keep the same, which should be the measurement of your lower leg?
Thanks! You'd want to keep as similar of a stance as you can
I ride +9 -9 but I like the carve, freestyle, and ride switch. Do you think this is a good setup or should I change it up a bit?
It sounds good, but maybe try one more in each direction to see how it feels, like 12, -12
@@SearchofSnowboarding ok thanks man
@@SearchofSnowboarding good advice. 12 -12 is a better spot. Gives your knees enough mobility to push power down using your quads. 15 -15 is too much for most cases as mechanically, your knees are designed to bend at a 90 degree angle relative to your hips. It is a more stable stance but does not allow you to be knee mobile and will stop you from doing jibs, butters, etc
Wow I never knew this before. I’ve been riding with my bindings at 0-0 for years
Hope it helps get you a little more comfy out there
Oh man, 0 0 will kill your knees if you ride alot. Try doing a squat and open your toe angles up a bit until you see what is comfortable for your body.
Thank you for the video!
My pleasure!
Man good video thankyou it is very logical
3rd attribute is: Goofy or Regular stance :--D
4th for a carving style rider like me is the putting plates under my bindings to make them higher. I just ordered Palmer Power Link System (PLS) 13mm plates to put on my new board: Lib Tech's Skunk Ape II 170 Ultra Wide. Because it's not quite wide enough for my big feet and carving.
Really, how big are your feet? I've put people with size 15 boots on that board and they can carve fine
@@SearchofSnowboarding It's a combination of big feet (Boot size 46 EUR) and STEEP carving. I've been riding a Burton Factory prime race board with hard boots for 10+ years so I'm used to steep/extreme carves. In those carves the board can be at 90 degree angle i.e. straight up on it's edge. In that situation it's very frustrating to fall out of the carve due to the bindings hitting the slope.
Great video. Now more snowboarding
More shredding coming really soon!
Very helpful! Also, that mega merc 😍
That's my new baby
I’m a goofy rider and I’ve always gone positive front side and 0 backside but as I’ve gotten more advance I find it hard to carve my toe side, what angle do you recommend me using
Try 15, -12 and see how it feels
Hi, great vid, just a question, when you are measuring the board to find the holes, where do you hold the tip of the tape measurer, at the other holes?
You measure from the holes in the same position on the other end. So both middle, both one out from middle, both one in from middle, etc.
For the measurements from the floor to the top of the knee, is that how far it should be between your feet or to the center of each foot?
To the center of each binding
Great vid helped a lot
No problem 👍
Trying out the +12 -9
Tomorrow ❤
Sweet!
Thanks dude you Rock!
You rock!
Great vid !
You got it!
My first board before I had read anything had a stance width of 20.75". It was very comfortable to learn on. Second board I set at 22.75" based on my height and felt like I regressed. New muscles were sore, and standing upright on flats felt uncomfortable. I just turned it back to 22" for my next outing. Is it common for such small changes to feel so different?
Yes a little change of your width can make a big difference. You can typically feel the change in the difference of as small as 1/4"
So my Burton blunt I have union bindings and at 15 and 15 I was only able to use 3 screws. Does that sometimes happen or the did the tech shop not now what they were doing. It was an old og snowboarder that was a coach for one of the Olympic teams so i figured he knew what he was doing lol.
If the board is older and has a 3-hole diamond pattern, then yes you would only use three holes, but only if you have the proper Burton 3-hole disk. Otherwise if you have a 4X2 patten on your board you should be using 4 holes
I've been riding +15 and 0 since I started. I just got new bindings and set my stance to +15 -15. What can I expect? easier carving? more control?
It will definitely be easier to ride switch, but your original stance will be a little better for carving. Everyone's different so you'll just need to see how the new stance feels with body positioning
The only thing I didnt see is actual binding placement on board. If I'm ripping powder on a storm day, should my bindings be toward the back of my board to maximize float?
Some people set their bindings back on a pow day, I personally don't move my bindings. Doing so will give you more nose and more float, but if you've got a board meant to ride pow you're all ready set up for sucess
Well, Mr Monkey Wrench here. On narrow race/carving boards I use 58/53 on about a 19.5 to 20 inch width. Freeride with harboots (AT boots usually) 45F/30R on 19.75 inch width. Soft boot setup is usually 30F/15R or so around the same width. And yes, I can ride fakie on all of them, not as well as the duck foot guys but well enough to get outta trouble or messing around riding essentially backwards...BTW my first step in bindings we're original Switch bindings, just to date myself.
Love hearing the posi posi riders come out!
switch was great
I have a question regarding the first-time trial angle at 3:25; my right foot is my dominant foot. Just to confirm, I only need to flip the bindings to face down and the angle would still be the same right?
Don't know what you mean by 'flipping down', but the front foot should be rotated towards the nose
Isn’t the manufacturers reference location based on the symmetry of the board and how it was designed to be ridden?
Sometimes yes, but even when this is the case going narrower than the reference is not an issue
thank you!
You're welcome!
I would also add forward lean adjustment as well....
Absolutely, that will be in the part 2 of binding adjustment video
Thanks man, I didn't think to change the position all the time as you explained, like it. I started snowboarding at +15/-9 and then moved to +21/-9
What is the next step you would recommend for me?
And yes, this stance is less comfortable for me in bidirectional ride
If you're trying to mess around to find a more comfortable stance from where you started, I can't really tell you where to go next. If it feels like too much angle on the front foot, dial back a little. If it feels like too little angle on the back foot for switch riding, try another 3 deg
great video!! i have a burton channel board and union binding, how do set set it up? i'm totally new to doing it myself
On the Union disc there will be two corresponding holes in the center. It should even say "channel" where those holes are too
Very good, thanks, but does not mention how adjust boot toe and heal location OR making sure bindings are on correct side.