you have no clue. he's not some great new thinker, he doesn't produce any new ideas, and his religious stuff is eye-rolling, but his insights into psychology are amazing and he's an unbelievable teacher.
LOL he doesn't say anything about psychology and what has said ever is not surprising is quite simple, "don't waste your time" is the most psychological advise he has given when he is not talking about nonsense. And yes I agree he is a waste of time
@@AldoAlfredoRamirezRyou have peterson derangement syndrome. The guy 90% of the time speaks about psychology. He has a whole course on psychology that he thought both at Harvard and University of Toronto, it's been online way before he was famous . you are seriously missing out
@@Juventinos Nah, he having his license under threath shows his insights are not amazing, and he being kicked out of being a professor shows he is not good at that either.
Top 8 things religions/religious person(s) complain about, regarding atheists: 1) They don't obey "our" religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion. 2) They don't enroll in our religion, regardless of the religion. 3) They don't teach our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion. 4) They don't want to learn our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion. 5) They don't want to participate in our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion. 6) They don't want to support our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion. 7) They don't want to promote our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion. 8) They don't want to fund any religion, regardless of the religion. ___ Rebuttal: When people stop obeying, enrolling, teaching, learning, supporting, promoting, participating and funding religion; religion will cease to exist, regardless of the religion.
@@freepeach9631that's true, we also have no evidence that Peterson is controlled exclusively by my left nut. It's not impossible, you can't prove it's not true. However...can we agree that it's nonsense ?
It’s very profound that Peterson mentions the scale and indescribable nature of quantum phenomena, but it’s unsettling that he also confirms the reality of lost history and generational truth claims: we have no solid ground on our genesis, but we made it this far in time.
Word salad Peterson just hates to admit he might be wrong and will bat away all efforts to get a definite answer. He was outclassed and outgunned in this situation, because he is an intellectual weasel who will squirm and obfuscate in order to not say YES or NO. Can't rust people like that....
The confortable "I don't know". The fact is that it is impossible for a human to be born from a virgin woman. The idea of a person dying for our sins is nonsensical. Peterson cannot accept and assume his faith because I guess, deep inside, he knows it makes no sense. Just say YES I believe that and that's my faith! I would have respected more that answer than all the wordy stuff he said.
More embarrassing theistic dodging of, what should be, simplistic answers. When questioned by minds like Dawkins, it appears obvious that it's sinking into people like Peterson, that they will struggle to justify it, and reasoning goes out the window. It's sad to see what religious belief does to, otherwise, intelligent, reasonable minds!....
What is the point in possessing a lot of knowledge just to keep it to yourself and don’t benefit others? Speaking without giving an honest opinion is for personal gain and a waste of other people time! It is very disappointing that only motiv of gaining knowledge is to make money and exploit others.
religion in nearly all cases has been used as an agent of social control. It's much easier to kill or torture people if you have on the authority a supernatural being
It's not that JP _couldn't_ say if he believed these supernatural claims, he _wouldn't_ say but the truth of the matter is he either *does* or he *doesn't* regardless of his degree of certainty so he's simply pretending these are _Do you know_ questions when they're _not_ & that's simply *dishonest* isn't it?
Also he could have just said, "yes I do believe that Jesus was born from a virgin and THAT was the power of god, the fact that he defied the laws of nature because he created them". That would be a more appropriate answer. Now he seems like he doesn't even believe in his religion and its concepts. You can't say you are a Christian, if you don't believe that Jesus was born from virgin. You can't say you believe in a religion but don't believe half of what it represents.
These are all yes or no questions. Too spew these sentences out as a "literary fact" is already giving up. Religion is the one subject in the world where people get away with it. If I said these things or avoided answering the question in this manner that Peterson does, I'd be ridiculed to within an inch of my life. And rightly so. Religion is the one topic where you can get away with that. And, Jordan Peterson squirms his away out of a question better than anyone else I've heard of. He's the very worst of humanity also. The very worst.
Interesting comment section.. Did nobody watch the whole thing? Quite profound conclusions they came to agree on. Maybe there are people who do not understand Jordan simply decide that what he is trying to understand is pointless. Or mabe there is political bias, which would be a shame. You have to really dig in to get the essence. I used to think the same way, but he's obviously a smart man.. he must be up to something right? He is often misinterpreted as advocating for religion. Language has constraints, work with it if you want to actually understand.
Nah, even people who took the time to understand what he means found out his conclusions were trash, for example his "the bible is more real than reality" is just creationsim levels of absurdity. His political views are just another can of worms that makes him no favours. Peterson is well known for abu sing language to make himself more profound to the Iazy people while giving a pretty good excuse against those who find him pointless. He made it almost an art in itself.
@Julian0101 hmm yeah i guess you are making a couple assumtions there that i don't quite agree with. I try to take everything on good faith basis, so thats one point we differ on.
@@soundpropagation5438 “he patterns that are portrayed in the Cain and Abel story play themselves out in the real world continuously and terribly, terribly” Terrible is a moral ought judgement “We have stellar examples that it works and I would say the same thing about biblical texts” The way Peterson uses works here is not in the way science uses works, works in science just means expected output. Peterson uses works similar to someone saying “That dress works for me (looks good to me)” it’s an expression of an opinion on the benefits of adhering to the texts, you ought learn from the text so you can have a working life (functional) This is different than Dawkins and his reference to quantum mechanics because quantum mechanics will be how it is, we just guess the outcome and if we guess close enough it works, Bible interpretation, moral interpretation, historical and personal context and simple mood changes prevents anything close to a working prediction of biblical texts (which it doesn’t claim it is, so either Jp falls into Humes gap fails to distinguish reality from fiction
Richard Dawkins view is as absurd as the atheist who says I don’t accept in God and the Bible because it defies the laws of science and nature Why? Let’s imagine for a second we’re in Minecraft And Alex says I don’t believe in notch and the book that says he existed because the book that says he existed defies the code of Minecraft Why is this illogical? Simple Notch isn’t bound by the code of Minecraft thus he can put on “God mode” so to speak and bend Minecraft to his will, not the other way around Similarly God isn’t bound by his creation or by “science” or by “laws of nature” he is the arbiter of all existence and isn’t bound by his creation
@@headienutburnthis is a dumb argument while notch may not be bound by Minecraft he still can’t do anything in Minecraft namely things that don’t exist in the Minecraft world like fight Ganon In twilight princess. Also when notch plays Minecraft not only is he changing the game the game also changes him Newton’s third law, you would have to admit that god is bounded by the actions we take just as much as we are by his
Atheists aren't convinced of god's because it defies science and nature? All you've done there...is make another claim that you can't show, not an explanation, nothing. Just another claim
P.T. Barnum would have called Peterson a hack. A chud also since this is my narrative. Peterson is not a great thinker. It's a shame that so many young people listen to his schtick.
Jordan Peterson: Word Soup Charletan
Peterson: It's mysterious and I do not understand it all. So therefore I believe it.
Dawkins: Sigh!
Peterson can’t honestly answer a question. I can’t believe I used to worship this guy as a hero.
Not going to waste my time watching Peterson; he’s simply not worth it.
you have no clue. he's not some great new thinker, he doesn't produce any new ideas, and his religious stuff is eye-rolling, but his insights into psychology are amazing and he's an unbelievable teacher.
LOL he doesn't say anything about psychology and what has said ever is not surprising is quite simple, "don't waste your time" is the most psychological advise he has given when he is not talking about nonsense.
And yes I agree he is a waste of time
@@AldoAlfredoRamirezRyou have peterson derangement syndrome. The guy 90% of the time speaks about psychology. He has a whole course on psychology that he thought both at Harvard and University of Toronto, it's been online way before he was famous . you are seriously missing out
@@Juventinos Nah, he having his license under threath shows his insights are not amazing, and he being kicked out of being a professor shows he is not good at that either.
@@Julian0101 ok mate. great critical thinking on your part there. you do you
The substrate of my metaphysical interpretation of what JP was saying is that eels are slippery, but can be caught ! Bring on the Vogon poetry !
I wish Peterson could just answer a fucking yes or no question
yes it's so annoying when he doges the question and start saying something else
Top 8 things religions/religious person(s) complain about, regarding atheists:
1) They don't obey "our" religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion.
2) They don't enroll in our religion, regardless of the religion.
3) They don't teach our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion.
4) They don't want to learn our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion.
5) They don't want to participate in our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion.
6) They don't want to support our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion.
7) They don't want to promote our religion's laws, rules, regulations or restrictions, regardless of the religion.
8) They don't want to fund any religion, regardless of the religion.
___
Rebuttal:
When people stop obeying, enrolling, teaching, learning, supporting, promoting, participating and funding religion; religion will cease to exist, regardless of the religion.
Well if ya look at the metaphysical substrate ya know…?!?!?!???!!!!!!
There's something seriously wrong with Peterson. He really needs help.
Peterson has certainly gone down a rabbit hole of insanity. Trying to argue nonesense
@@johncandy6508 or…he is saved and will live forever. You have no evidence that that is an impossibility.
@@freepeach9631that's true, we also have no evidence that Peterson is controlled exclusively by my left nut.
It's not impossible, you can't prove it's not true.
However...can we agree that it's nonsense ?
There are thousands of questions Peterson can't answer, and millions where he can't give a straight answer. Total fraud.
Are there any Theistic questions at all that Peterson has given a simple answer to?
All I have seen is complicated non-answers.
Never trust someone who refuses to admit when they don't know something.
It’s very profound that Peterson mentions the scale and indescribable nature of quantum phenomena, but it’s unsettling that he also confirms the reality of lost history and generational truth claims: we have no solid ground on our genesis, but we made it this far in time.
Word salad Peterson just hates to admit he might be wrong and will bat away all efforts to get a definite answer.
He was outclassed and outgunned in this situation, because he is an intellectual weasel who will squirm and obfuscate in order to not say YES or NO.
Can't rust people like that....
The confortable "I don't know". The fact is that it is impossible for a human to be born from a virgin woman. The idea of a person dying for our sins is nonsensical. Peterson cannot accept and assume his faith because I guess, deep inside, he knows it makes no sense. Just say YES I believe that and that's my faith! I would have respected more that answer than all the wordy stuff he said.
He did utter a lot of words. Did he say anything? Not that I could tell.
Peterson never answers a question; he blathers until all meaning creeps ashamedly from the universe and then grins like a pleased schoolboy.
Did Peterson answer any question with a clear answer? Being clear isn’t exactly his bag.
The dude seems like he would get flustered giving his name if asked.
@@arby796 and it would be a ten minute answer where he never says "Jordan Peterson"
Jordan Peterson’s education is in yapology
Tf?😂
Dawkins looks at the situation based on facts and evidence. Peterson looks at the situation based on something different.( i.e. not facts or evidence)
I love hearing Peterson talking in circles. The more he talks, the more he can work past an answer and babble on about something else.
More embarrassing theistic dodging of, what should be, simplistic answers. When questioned by minds like Dawkins, it appears obvious that it's sinking into people like Peterson, that they will struggle to justify it, and reasoning goes out the window. It's sad to see what religious belief does to, otherwise, intelligent, reasonable minds!....
Like Trump dodging questions in interviews these days
Peterson is awesome because he has incredible insights into the human mind. Listening to Dawkins is like eating corn flakes every day.
peterson- a psychologist who suffers from a psychopathy that he ignores
9:09 Jordan has mastered weJ speak; To say much without saying anything of truth or value.
Fire the person who does your subtitles
Most scholars conceded that genesis was written around 275ce.
What is the point in possessing a lot of knowledge just to keep it to yourself and don’t benefit others? Speaking without giving an honest opinion is for personal gain and a waste of other people time! It is very disappointing that only motiv of gaining knowledge is to make money and exploit others.
religion in nearly all cases has been used as an agent of social control. It's much easier to kill or torture people if you have on the authority a supernatural being
It's not that JP _couldn't_ say if he believed these supernatural claims, he _wouldn't_ say but the truth of the matter is he either *does* or he *doesn't* regardless of his degree of certainty so he's simply pretending these are _Do you know_ questions when they're _not_ & that's simply *dishonest* isn't it?
I've never seen Peterson be so deceptive when asked direct yes or no questions. Pretending to give an actual answer is deceptive.
It’s like…
Also he could have just said, "yes I do believe that Jesus was born from a virgin and THAT was the power of god, the fact that he defied the laws of nature because he created them".
That would be a more appropriate answer. Now he seems like he doesn't even believe in his religion and its concepts. You can't say you are a Christian, if you don't believe that Jesus was born from virgin. You can't say you believe in a religion but don't believe half of what it represents.
I used to enjoy listening to Peterson. Now, not so much. 😂
I can answer those questions.
Peterson says absolutely nothing all the time. It’s insane 😂
My question is: Would he get away with spewing such nothings for this long if he _didn't_ sound like an amphibian puppet we all grew up with? 🤔
I do not like Peterson. Aside from his twisting about stupidity, he is also misogynistic.
Dawkins is a 3rd grader. Very unimpressive
These are all yes or no questions. Too spew these sentences out as a "literary fact" is already giving up.
Religion is the one subject in the world where people get away with it. If I said these things or avoided answering the question in this manner that Peterson does, I'd be ridiculed to within an inch of my life. And rightly so.
Religion is the one topic where you can get away with that. And, Jordan Peterson squirms his away out of a question better than anyone else I've heard of.
He's the very worst of humanity also. The very worst.
depends what you mean by 'question' .. hahah
Interesting comment section.. Did nobody watch the whole thing? Quite profound conclusions they came to agree on. Maybe there are people who do not understand Jordan simply decide that what he is trying to understand is pointless. Or mabe there is political bias, which would be a shame. You have to really dig in to get the essence. I used to think the same way, but he's obviously a smart man.. he must be up to something right? He is often misinterpreted as advocating for religion. Language has constraints, work with it if you want to actually understand.
Nah, even people who took the time to understand what he means found out his conclusions were trash, for example his "the bible is more real than reality" is just creationsim levels of absurdity.
His political views are just another can of worms that makes him no favours.
Peterson is well known for abu sing language to make himself more profound to the Iazy people while giving a pretty good excuse against those who find him pointless. He made it almost an art in itself.
@Julian0101 hmm yeah i guess you are making a couple assumtions there that i don't quite agree with. I try to take everything on good faith basis, so thats one point we differ on.
@@peterdann9365 Nope, that is pretty much the general conclusion, even taken in good faith. It is ok if you disagree.
When you dig down to getting an actual answer out of him about religion...he's only ever stated that religion is good for poor dumb folks😂
Dont shame the things yiu do not understand
You don’t understand it either
@@Oneocna I do. And quite well, actually. I'm sorry if you cannot.
@@soundpropagation5438 do you understand why everything Peterson says falls into Humes gap or is the medical definition of psychotic
@@Oneocna That seems like an untrue statement. Please elaborate and give a specific quote of that demonstrates him saying an "is" is an "ought".
@@soundpropagation5438 “he patterns that are portrayed in the Cain and Abel story play themselves out in the real world continuously and terribly, terribly”
Terrible is a moral ought judgement
“We have stellar examples that it works and I would say the same thing about biblical texts”
The way Peterson uses works here is not in the way science uses works, works in science just means expected output. Peterson uses works similar to someone saying “That dress works for me (looks good to me)” it’s an expression of an opinion on the benefits of adhering to the texts, you ought learn from the text so you can have a working life (functional)
This is different than Dawkins and his reference to quantum mechanics because quantum mechanics will be how it is, we just guess the outcome and if we guess close enough it works, Bible interpretation, moral interpretation, historical and personal context and simple mood changes prevents anything close to a working prediction of biblical texts (which it doesn’t claim it is, so either Jp falls into Humes gap fails to distinguish reality from fiction
Richard Dawkins view is as absurd as the atheist who says I don’t accept in God and the Bible because it defies the laws of science and nature
Why?
Let’s imagine for a second we’re in Minecraft
And Alex says I don’t believe in notch and the book that says he existed because the book that says he existed defies the code of Minecraft
Why is this illogical?
Simple
Notch isn’t bound by the code of Minecraft thus he can put on “God mode” so to speak and bend Minecraft to his will, not the other way around
Similarly God isn’t bound by his creation or by “science” or by “laws of nature” he is the arbiter of all existence and isn’t bound by his creation
You lost me at Minecraft, child.
@@headienutburnthis is a dumb argument while notch may not be bound by Minecraft he still can’t do anything in Minecraft namely things that don’t exist in the Minecraft world like fight Ganon In twilight princess. Also when notch plays Minecraft not only is he changing the game the game also changes him Newton’s third law, you would have to admit that god is bounded by the actions we take just as much as we are by his
Atheists aren't convinced of god's because it defies science and nature?
All you've done there...is make another claim that you can't show, not an explanation, nothing.
Just another claim
What are the characteristics of a god, and whom is it that taught you about it? Start there.
Christ is king
Elvis is King
America has no king. America needs no king.
BB King, is King of the Blues!
Aragorn is the King of Gondor. There are many more fictional kings!
Burger King.
P.T. Barnum would have called Peterson a hack. A chud also since this is my narrative. Peterson is not a great thinker. It's a shame that so many young people listen to his schtick.