manuel luz I understand the feeling, I remember when Korn was a new thing and I had been heavy into the bass at the time. I remember thinking if ever met Fieldey there would be no circumstance under which I would tell him that I played bass! 🤦
Lol I have the whole song mapped out in software (along with most of their songs that I couldn’t figure out by ear.) You just have to learn it slow and bring the speed up after you comprehend it.
According to Tomas, the song was so difficult to get right, it almost didn't make the record. It took him as long to get this song right as it the the rest of the record combined! So don't fret, Tomas doesn't hide the fact he worked his butt off to make the song as flawless as it sounds.
I doubt he thinks he plays it perfectly, someone at that level of play is sure to have some perfectionism mentality in there despite being truly amazing
@@teacherfromthejungles6671 Here the legs aren't exactly following. For example in the first beat, the snare falls on a different section of the herta 3 times. It just loops around, so on the 4th snare falls on the same place as the 1st.
This isnt just a difficult drum beat, but every instrument has an extremely difficult riff and is hard for even the most talented of folks. This band are god tier musicians
@@paradigmshiftz7that bend in the riff when you're keeping the rhythm going is tricky sounds class to. It's an 8 string so not having one I haven't played it tho. You could down tune a six strong wouldn't sound good enough tho I'll just listen to them 😊
Meshuggah is the most criminally underrated band of all time. Like for real, the entire music industry owes them a lot for all of the studio engineering and live performance effects they invented and pushed into the scene.
@@Gr13fKvltthey may be well known in the extreme metal scene, but they are definitely not “very well compensated”. The music industry doesn’t pay as well as you may think for metal bands
I've been playing the drums for 34 years, and when I heard this it broke my drumming brain! It took me 2 years to be able to get the song into my drumming brain, this is one of my favourite beats ever played.
+ Ownageyeahful Yeah, that's pretty accurate haha I seriously can't even get a few seconds in without fucking up the rhythm. A true masterpiece of a beat, for sure.
+ownageyeahful many have tried… and many have failed ;) I can get the first part and get it pretty good… then in the second chorus… it all chops and changes.. and then chops again… and changes…………. and then chops :(
Fun fact: During this performance, he was still recovering from a herniated disc that affected his right leg/foot. So this is how he plays when he's struggling to control one of his feet.
This is one of those songs where everyone is like, "WOW! WTF did I just hear?" This song will be played in 1000 years and people will still be using it is an example of amazing musicianship.
I feel like a lot of people don't appreciate just how tight the whole band (and not just Thomas) has to be to pull off this song live. Any miniscule deviation from the correct rhythm would be instantly noticeable and make the whole song/riff sound like mud. The fact that that NEVER happens in their performances is mind blowing. Absolutely incredible musicians.
Listen..some of the worlds best drummers, go to watch this band live, just to be simply amazed that Tomas can play this unbelievable live. Absolutely jaw dropping talent..BLEED is a symphony of destruction
It's intense when it's super quiet and the crowd starts clapping. The anticipated double bass drums starting up again with that combined is just AMAZING.
Im a Drummer and i understand why hes so calm its normal people to say so yes. the thing is he practiced it ALOT and by alot i mean like everyday just that song its fucked up with the legs. They werent even sure is it gonna be on the album bcs its as i said fucked up with legs. In this song he plays softer bcs its harder and on other he plays harder.
Awesome. A lot of counting lol. Staying calm, saving stamina for the rest of the show. I used to be really into this style of drumming years ago. Seen them with Fear Factory and Slayer. But yeah, it’s definitely a different approach. I’m more of a moody drummer I guess, my style is a lot different. It would take a lot of practice and conditioning to play like this, if that’s your thing. He’s been writing drums this way for 20 years so it’s probably second nature
He had a herniated disc a while ago that's he's still having nerve problems with, he can't exactly go mad lmao He also does this song with only single strokes o_O
In the Swedish documentary "Hård rock på export" pt 3 they complained about how much they hate performing this song live. "It's just a stamina exercise" - and the interviewer went: "Well, who's fault is that?"
I think he meant 4 months just to get the guitar part down. Which is easier than the drums. Which sounds pretty realistic lol. The note changes are so fucking annoying even if it's not really a difficult left hand song.
I can just imagine Tomas coming in the studio and Fredrik swinging in his chair going “Do I have a riff for you!” and hits play and Tomas hears it and just walks back out the door..😂
Jeez the part at 4:20 when the break happens he puts down his sticks and just takes a breather so perfectly I could imagine he needs it so bad at that point they definitely wrote that part into the song knowing how hard it would be on them live even for the guitars it’s basically a hardcore workout
I love the subtle change he does on the bass drum pattern at 2:25 - 2:40 compared to the album. I remember talking to a friend about this when I saw them live!
i recently drove 500 KM with my mum. I played some Meshuggah, and after a while she was like "lets play something more relaxed'. I chucked on some Gojira and she was happy.
Holy fuck Gojira is my fav band and I fucking love Meshguggah aswell. Mastodon is great too. Not related to these bands but I reccomend tool, Danny is a great drummer
Be sure to leave a comment every time that´s what i do, that´s the polite way of saying "thank you". Back after just two days proves my devotion to one song. The answer above this one don´t mind, don´t mind me when i´m P off. 😅👍
The worst part of the whole thing is how calm, cool and collected he looks throughout the entire song "Its no big deal, just playing bleed, just like any random Sunday afternoon"
To play it this accurately, you can't be struggling anyway. You have to own it, and be actually able to play faster too. Then you just dial it back, to a comfortable level. Only way to play as cleanly as this, with no mistakes. If he was on his actual limit of speed, there would be mistakes
he definitely does not look calm, cool or collected. the song is extremely demanding, and I'm sure he's grown to dislike playing it live as the years have gone by.
I went from rocking out every time I heard this song, to watching them individually and live to see if it's even real, now I just have one tear roll down my cheek when it comes on because it's so damn beautiful.
I am 67. I have seen many great drummers live. Ginger Baker, John Bonham, Tony Williams, Billy Cobham, Jack DeJohnette, Vinnie Coliauta, Buddy Rich, Terry Bozzio, Dennis Chambers, Lenny White, Michael Walden. And many more. But Tomas Haake is special and I believe he has retained that ancient tradition and lost art of *swing and groove* and achieved the very difficult feat of expressing *swing and groove* within the context of the Metalist genre. To maintain *swing and groove* is rare within any modern genre these days. But to do this within the Metalist genre is almost non-existant. Very very rare. Watch his interviews. I love his *attitude* as well. Respect to Mr. Haake.
I also believe that Bleed is a very important tune in terms of being a watershed event in the "metal" genre. Similar the the impact Black Dog had in 1971. The cut-time groove on the top part of the kit during the "verse" section makes the tune very "accessible" while at the same time, the kick drum and guitar parts are doing something very, very advanced technically. The whole thing is very tight. The break out sections following the verse, which doubles up the time signature, are actually "funky" although it is not "funk music" per se. However all the syncopations and accents are definitely funk-related. The middle break-down section is beautiful. Ambient and haunting. Then the solo, then the return the the verse section and then ending with the left-hand 6 over right-hand 8 drumming and ending on a dime. Great arrangement. This tune needs more study in order to really appreciate the whole thing. Peace.
manjay49 First I am SO jealous that you got to see all of those kats live! 2nd, I agree with you about Bleed being a watershed event. You should know that on their album "Contradictions Collapse" they site Earth Wind and Fire as one of their many influences. The main reason why this is my favorite band is because they are the ONLY band that plays all of the complex stuff situated within a straight 4/4 beat. Four main beats per measure. The snare (in Bleed) hits on 3 most of the time. There is no change in the time signature at all, and much of their music is in 4. They baffle people in the *thinking* crowds, but when I saw them live, people who had no clue what they were doing were moshing/headbanging etc. These guys are like my heroes. I would say that "New Millenium Cyanide Christ is more like Black Dog though. Meshuggah fans tend to be divided between the Chaosphere album, and Catch 33. The ones who dig Catch 33 are into the "creepy" vibe, but the Chaosphere people are the ones who dig the rhythmic stuff - those are the old school kats who know the deal. Anyways, I agree with your overall sentiment. Thomas seems like a super humble dude too!
@manjay49 A-fucking-men, finally someone with experience who actually gets it. I got a nice story for ya: I've met the band and they feel exactly the same way. They don't think any of this shit out, they're so used to it it's all feeling, just like all great musicians. I'm a drummer myself and it's simply a matter of getting used to hearing layered cycles throughout a 4/4 (or sometimes triplet) groove. It's all feeling, people. This is groove-metal, a term Thomas agreed with right to my face.
holygroove2 I made a mistake about the album that sites their influences - it's Destroy Erase Improve, not Contradictions Collapse. Destroy Erase Improve has another crazy tune on it called Future Breed Machine which they also do live. You would dig it if you dig Bleed. Contradictions Collapse is more random (not mostly in 4 like what they do now), but it's still good b/c you get to hear where they came from. I really appreciate what you're saying about sound - it's something that we have to really be conscious of. Well said again.
Silrian777 Also very well said - they used to call it "heavy metal" back in the day, but Groove metal pretty much sums it up too. Heavy or Groovy because like funk, they never lose sight of the 1. Also because of the sound on their guitars. Cool that you got to meet them. I heard them live in 2012. Still amazed at how well they performed from 2 years ago.
This is absolute madness. Nobody can surpass this precision. They deserve a music genre on their own, just for them. Djent is a trend, meshuggah is eternal.
@J N Ulrich has admitted in interviews he can't do now a lot of the stuff he did when he was younger, and often doesn't even bother practicing. Metallica's strength grew from the songs written during Mustaine's tenure in the band.
I could be wrong as i'm not a musician but i'm like 90% sure this song is just in 4/4 (obviously with some complex poly-rhythms in there) so wouldn't be crazy difficult for them to get back
they spent 6 months mastering the technique on this song for obZen. It took them that long to master all the other songs combined. That's how they do this. They gave up six months of their life for one song. That's how. That's pure fucking dedication.
Google Prokofiev sonata no 6. To play something like that takes quite a while and as you are posting at Meshuggah, it is kinda metalish, especially the last part vivace. But agreed bleed is definitely a technically difficult song.
Adam Bartlett im not realy into messugha but i bow down to this track and realy only enjoyed the video too because of its awesomeness but i got the same sensation from the video watching this live these guys are legit! And thanks for the info it made me appreciate the song even more
I used to date a girl who would constantly fall asleep anytime I would put metal on. About the heaviest band she'd listen to and stay awake for is A7X, but she legit was a Stan for them. They aren't heavy, I know, but they have some groovey melodies and thrashy riffs that tend to nod her out otherwise. Even at live concerts at metal venues, metal music for her is the equivalent of counting sheep. I honestly wish I had something that made my brain relax... I'm pretty jelly right now.
once, after 12 hours of getting no sleep on an aeroplane, with one hour until landing, i put on some meshuggah and fell asleep within minutes. true story.
I generally listen to Meshuggah almost...recreationally... When Im actually pissed or sad Id rather go for more chaotic and wild stuff like Converge f.e.; but for working; focusing; and getting into a trancelike state of efficiency; f.e. when drawing with high precision for long amounts of time; Meshuggah is perfect.
I wish more people understood how phenomenal Meshuggah is. Masters of rhythm and composition. So many of my friends mock me for my musical tastes; I just feel bad for them.
+Tony Allain It can be brilliant, technical and difficult to play; doesn't mean the sound will appeal to many people. Complexity doesn't cut it for most. It needs catch.
+hoshino I've been listening to Meshuggah for almost 10 years now, and I got an 8 string shortly after I discovered them, to learn their songs. Now, for me, the songs I know in the back of my head don't seem complex, but don't be fooled, they are. It took me quite some time to be comfortable listening to them, let alone nodding my head in the 4/4, not to mention playing it myself, and I still have a hard time playing their simplest songs and keeping a straight 4/4 nodding my head. They are complex at times, but keep a straight beat throughout most songs, which make them sound simpler, and most importantly, gives their songs one hell of a groove!
***** Overrated? By some hardcore fans perhaps, but Meshuggah has up to quite recently been severely underrated. I mean, they released groundbreaking stuff way back in 94, and they still couldn't quit their day jobs until after the release of Nothing around 2002. And to this day, they still need to tour a lot to finance the recording of their new albums. You thinking the music sucks is one thing, that's your subjective opinion, just like I think they're the greatest metal band out there today, but objectively, they have had a huge influence on the metal scene, while still not getting the fame they deserve.
If you listen closely there's some extremely slight desync on certain cues, but like its so minor youd never notice it in attendance and if anything it proves how insane it is because you know he's still human
every fan should attend a show if they can. from the front the spotlights are behind them so you just see tall silhouettes, five across, standing over you while they play. then Jens Kidman head bangs with his foot on a monitor like he's on top of a mountain, it's epic, and the fans are amazing. some of the nicest fans I've ever met.
I am now 67 years old. I have seen and experienced Meshuggah live in London Dec 20, 2014 and also Jan 20, 2017. Let me, one of The Elders, report back to any and all: Meshuggah are in a league of their own.
Tomas Haake is not only one of the greatest drummers to grace the instrument.... but the man is an articulate, profound, and intellectual poet. He has written the lyrics to many of their songs, and if you take a read while you listen (or while you aren't listening, it is engaging either way), you will see his phenomenal eloquence come to life. This is a group of truly talented artists and individuals, thank you for your music.
People always say, "he makes this look easy." And yes, he does, but he also doesn't in a sense...you can see the insane focus and effort he's putting into it as he plays. It's not "easy" even for him. He's just a true artist of the craft and gets the job done flawlessly.
As a drummer, it took me until showing my dad this song to realize how insane this song is for everyone playing an instrument, not just Tomas. I know what the hardest part is, but when I thought about it and attempted to move my wrist like that on a guitar, I remembered the song is almost 8 minutes long. I'm sure practicing this on guitar isn't as bad as it's been on drums, but those same lengthy, complex structures on the drums are played by the guitars as well. There's always one of those songs/albums that will stand the test of time forever and will likely be just as long before true understanding/appreciation manifests for it. This is that song.
People might tell you the frontman of a band is the singer, but I think we all know the front man of meshuggah is Tomas, he is literally the heartbeat of the band
This song inspired me to give up drums
I literally laughed out loud. How does this one not have more likes? 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
lmao
manuel luz
I understand the feeling, I remember when Korn was a new thing and I had been heavy into the bass at the time.
I remember thinking if ever met Fieldey there would be no circumstance under which I would tell him that I played bass! 🤦
Tomas haake has more control over his feet then I have over my life
«than»
😂
🤣🤣
So practice
Haaaaaaa....im right there with ya!!!
Fun fact: The slow interlude at 4:20 was written there for the sole purpose of preventing the insturments from bursting into flames mid-song.
I'm guessing when you say "instruments" you're talking about Tomas Haake's calf muscles and all of the band's brains
@@jadewolf1024 Including the actual instruments as well, I can imagine the heat being generated in all of them, even including the vocalist's mic lol
after years of pain and agony, i finally can play the drum part at 4:22 - 4:54
underrated comment
Lol I have the whole song mapped out in software (along with most of their songs that I couldn’t figure out by ear.) You just have to learn it slow and bring the speed up after you comprehend it.
😂😂😂😂😂
yeah man, we're both mastered it then..
Lmfao
Bass drums check under their bed for Tomas Haake before going to sleep.
lol 👍
lmao
jens -kidman- mcghee
Good one
I love this comment!
I like to imagine Bill Burr is in this crowd getting his mind blown.
BRRTA BRRTA BRRTA
I came for brrta brrta brrta
that clip got me hooked on meshuggah haha
Trueeeee
Haadhaaajahahhahh
Let's take a bow to the lights technician...he's part of the band.
Crushed 👏🏻
imagine how good it must feel to be able to play this flawlessly
Imagining is all the rest of us can do
According to Tomas, the song was so difficult to get right, it almost didn't make the record. It took him as long to get this song right as it the the rest of the record combined! So don't fret, Tomas doesn't hide the fact he worked his butt off to make the song as flawless as it sounds.
I doubt he thinks he plays it perfectly, someone at that level of play is sure to have some perfectionism mentality in there despite being truly amazing
Imagine how bad it hurts to play this flawlessly
Ankle pain.
If Haake was seen doing this 300 years ago he'd have been burned at the stake for being a warlock.
That's how you know...one is truly living his life
Or the crowds would’ve instinctively headbanged.
or worshipped for being an extradimensional God
He did this. Back then he was known as Rasputin.
if he had lived in viking era, we would be vikings now :)
Hands: aiite lets play 4/4 in half time
Brain: cool..sounds tight
Feet: so anyway I started blasting
blastbeat is a hand technique. what he plays with feet is polyrhythms
Strabby Crabby not polyrhythms, just hertas. Also blast beats are both a hand and leg technique.
@@parkerrailton9774 legs just follow what hands are doing, either both or one of them
@@teacherfromthejungles6671 Here the legs aren't exactly following. For example in the first beat, the snare falls on a different section of the herta 3 times. It just loops around, so on the 4th snare falls on the same place as the 1st.
@@fsmraps I was talking about blastbeats. I know what hertas are.
Despite being heavy as hell, it's crazy how meditative and chill Meshuggah's music really is.
It's crazy how a song about dying horribly in pain and agony can be so relaxing.
@@MasteroChieftan And THAT is Obzen.
one time on lsd i watched the Clockworks video on repeat for like 3 hours. meditative indeed
Yeah, metal is not usually my go-to music when stoned. Yet here I am, lol
@@haeselian Well ultimately metal came from psychedelic rock, so why not?
Meshuggah sounds like an industrial plant with all of its machines and sirens playing in perfect sync.
Great fucking analogy, dude...
I have always said they sound like a giant, monsterous, diesel engine...
Metronomes keep their time by listening to Tomas Haake.
They try
MohawkGaming
Metronomes: “ *ALL THE AGONYYY* “
he beats chuck norris with his legs!
OMG LOL
Haha, good one.
This song is like 13 years old and it still sounds like it's from the future.
I feel this comment describes this song absolutely perfectly!
Like listening to a fear factory cd in your car in 1997 while tripping
This kind of drumming is so difficult that so few artists will actually use this kind of playing in a live track. That's the beauty of drumming
Wdym 13 years? It's 2012 wake up
RIGHT!
This isnt just a difficult drum beat, but every instrument has an extremely difficult riff and is hard for even the most talented of folks. This band are god tier musicians
At first I read "good tier" and was going to reply wtf. Then I read GOD and gave a like
Agreed, as a guitarist I can tell it's difficult to keep every single last note sounding tight and in time with the rest of the band
@@paradigmshiftz7that bend in the riff when you're keeping the rhythm going is tricky sounds class to. It's an 8 string so not having one I haven't played it tho. You could down tune a six strong wouldn't sound good enough tho I'll just listen to them 😊
Meshuggah is the only band where the guitar solo is the easiest part of the song to play
One of the most legendary drum performances in the history of music.
Moving the melody into the cymbals for the climax is one of the most impressive things I've experienced in listening to music.
Legs never skip Thomas Haake day!
Excellent comment!
Also a top 10 comment of all time, 2 in one feed. LEGENDARY.
Dude, youre a genius
Hahahahahaga best ever dude
Excellent repost
One minute of silence for all the ghost notes no one heard
Best comment
He is using them to stay in time 😀
i mean that is the main point of ghost notes
Graca Endre=truth
Hes actually playing the funkiest ghost note pattern on the snare almost the entire song.
Meshuggah is the most criminally underrated band of all time. Like for real, the entire music industry owes them a lot for all of the studio engineering and live performance effects they invented and pushed into the scene.
They are probably the most mainstream extreme metal band in the business and very well compensated for that.
@@Gr13fKvltthey may be well known in the extreme metal scene, but they are definitely not “very well compensated”. The music industry doesn’t pay as well as you may think for metal bands
I've been playing the drums for 34 years, and when I heard this it broke my drumming brain!
It took me 2 years to be able to get the song into my drumming brain, this is one of my favourite beats ever played.
It has been said that it took Tomas 6 months to learn the song. So you're only a quarter behind him, sort of. 🤘
every metal drummers dream is to make it even one minute into this song and not be dead
+ Ownageyeahful Yeah, that's pretty accurate haha
I seriously can't even get a few seconds in without fucking up the rhythm. A true masterpiece of a beat, for sure.
Kelsterperson1 definitely one of those songs where you gotta sit down for an entire day and memorise each little part of the song
+ownageyeahful Nah, not a day, more like an year
check out Adam Gray's cover. He nails it!!!
+ownageyeahful many have tried… and many have failed ;) I can get the first part and get it pretty good… then in the second chorus… it all chops and changes.. and then chops again… and changes…………. and then chops :(
Fun fact: During this performance, he was still recovering from a herniated disc that affected his right leg/foot. So this is how he plays when he's struggling to control one of his feet.
backing track moron!
Turbo Turd there’s no backing drum dumbass lol.
Backing drum track 😂😂 you mean the fucking metronome that only he is hearing through his headset! Geez oh Pete what a moron, Haake the drum God
@@turboturd7954 keep waiting for the likes 🤣🤣
@@crtl5911 i dont want likes, it more fun knowing how brainwashed 99.9% of people are by a staged production!
I’ve been playing drums for over 40 years. This blows my mind.
This is one of those songs where everyone is like, "WOW! WTF did I just hear?" This song will be played in 1000 years and people will still be using it is an example of amazing musicianship.
Not a thousand and one then? You lack in FAITH.
@@robertkarlsson8008 i think i missed the joke🤔
Clearly a cyborg sent from the future to bring about the apocalypse, but got sidetracked and became a metal drummer.
+Mighty Dingus those god damned sidequests.
+João Rodil +Mighty Dingus you have both won the internet today.
+Mighty Dingus You sir just won the internet.
second that shit.
+Mighty Dingus I like how your pic is steve brule. For you health!!
I feel like a lot of people don't appreciate just how tight the whole band (and not just Thomas) has to be to pull off this song live. Any miniscule deviation from the correct rhythm would be instantly noticeable and make the whole song/riff sound like mud. The fact that that NEVER happens in their performances is mind blowing. Absolutely incredible musicians.
Gating helps with that. They probably have the click in their ears as well.
Spot on description!!
This is absolutely correct. I still can't believe I'm listening to/watching it every time. Truly incredible.
Facts!
Exactly, this is coming from a drummer
Listen..some of the worlds best drummers, go to watch this band live, just to be simply amazed that Tomas can play this unbelievable live. Absolutely jaw dropping talent..BLEED is a symphony of destruction
It's intense when it's super quiet and the crowd starts clapping. The anticipated double bass drums starting up again with that combined is just AMAZING.
Thomas haake and mario duplantier go to a bar to drink a quarter.
Quarter bar becomes 21/32 polyrhythm.
Is that a reference to the Rick Beato video "What makes this song great - Metallica - Master Of Puppets"?
Is that a reference to the video Rick Beato did on Master of puppets?
Love both bands. I think Mario might be even better... They're both amazing!!!! Also love Rick Beato. lol
*laughs in oddly difficult time signature*
Yeah . Mario on toxic Garbage island or heaviest matter of the universe
I like that the expression on his face throughout is “just doin’ my job” and not “my legs just burst into flames”.
Seriously though, he's surprisingly calm.
Im a Drummer and i understand why hes so calm its normal people to say so yes. the thing is he practiced it ALOT and by alot i mean like everyday just that song its fucked up with the legs. They werent even sure is it gonna be on the album bcs its as i said fucked up with legs. In this song he plays softer bcs its harder and on other he plays harder.
The only reason he can play this is because he’s calm. He’s focusing on breathing and staying relaxed.
Awesome. A lot of counting lol. Staying calm, saving stamina for the rest of the show. I used to be really into this style of drumming years ago. Seen them with Fear Factory and Slayer. But yeah, it’s definitely a different approach. I’m more of a moody drummer I guess, my style is a lot different. It would take a lot of practice and conditioning to play like this, if that’s your thing. He’s been writing drums this way for 20 years so it’s probably second nature
He had a herniated disc a while ago that's he's still having nerve problems with, he can't exactly go mad lmao
He also does this song with only single strokes o_O
In the Swedish documentary "Hård rock på export" pt 3 they complained about how much they hate performing this song live. "It's just a stamina exercise" - and the interviewer went: "Well, who's fault is that?"
Jomen den är deras hit så då får det bli så, muskler gillas av honorna med.
Du förstår kanske inte Svenska men det är en risk jag är villig att ta.
@@robertkarlsson8008 Tror du inte fattade att @olalmartins skojade.
Is this the greatest drum video of all time?
This is the greatest drum video of all time.
I imagine Bill Burr standing in the crowd leaping into temporary insanity
Haha I remeber he talked about this in his podcast
@@alkatraz706 Bill's learning to play drums so he can play "ba dum tish" to his own jokes
brrrda brrrda brrrda brrrda brrrda brrrda brrrda
@@tamarothA 😂
@@tamarothA but also brrrrdadadadadadada brrrdadadadadadada brrrrdadadadada bbrdadada brrrrrdadadadada
Bleed took 7 months to learn Thomas Haake
So far it's taken me 4 months and I play guitar.
@@Vulkanzed-117 them please make a Full setlist of songs and put bleed last, play It Full and without missing a single note
@@caiooliveira8832 ... yeah!!
You tell him to do something!
I think he meant 4 months just to get the guitar part down. Which is easier than the drums. Which sounds pretty realistic lol. The note changes are so fucking annoying even if it's not really a difficult left hand song.
Wasn't he also struggling with a fresh foot injury at the time?
I can just imagine Tomas coming in the studio and Fredrik swinging in his chair going “Do I have a riff for you!” and hits play and Tomas hears it and just walks back out the door..😂
I showed this to my brother with epilepsy and he started break-dancing. I guess he likes it
Ahhhhhhahahahahahaha Tremendous
When the brrrta becomes tabrrr..I live for that shit.
And then the guitar goes jyan jyan jiggi jyann jyaan
Chaka wisdom
Speaking the language of gods
That guy knows
This is the wisdom of the gods
Legend has it that each of his feet have an IQ of over 200.
Man you just can't deFEET Tomas' drumming
Hahahaha
Not Mozart not even a fucking herniated disc in his back could stop his drumming, you literally can’t
IQ of 220
It's measured in BPM
That drum fill @6:00 is so fast that even the slowest playback speed couldn't catch it well enough. Holy fuck, Tomas 'bleeds' metal.
Playing Bleed is: meditating and get in peace with oneself and the others to play one of the hardest and violent songs ever written.
I hope that drum kit is over 18
now that was funny
Really
Cuz he's poundin' it... EYYYYY (for the scrubs)
18 or not rape is rape
Lmfaooo
The light technician knows the bass drum pattern as well as Thomas Haake himself.
minilob well its his brother that controls them
Lars Lönn Cousin.
Oh thats right. My bad
+minilob There are some automation softwares, u can connect the light console with those softwares and link the lights with the bass drum punch.
Except their light technician doe sit manually as far as I know.
This song is INSANE! And to be performed LIVE as perfectly as this is just Absolutely Amazing!
Jeez the part at 4:20 when the break happens he puts down his sticks and just takes a breather so perfectly I could imagine he needs it so bad at that point they definitely wrote that part into the song knowing how hard it would be on them live even for the guitars it’s basically a hardcore workout
Nah man... He CHANGES HIS SOCKS!
Lol 4:20
They put that part in there so he has time to change his socks.
I'd imagine that this guys quads rival that of olympic speed skaters.
The lighting guy deserve a medal. 10/10
He's a brother of one of the band members I believe
exactly bro.
Light by midi
Thats his cousin actually, keeping it in the family
The lights are annoying af lol
I find it absolutely hilarious how chill he is. Just another day at work laying bricks.
That’s literally the only way you can play this. Any body tension and you’ll lose control.
He’s actually said in interviews he wasn’t able to play this part until he just got completely relaxed
While I’m over here shitting brix
@@MCLemonyfresh 3:05 "completely relaxed")
His mind is off wondering about his next fishing trip. He’s said so, I’m stressing watching and my feet TRY to play what he is playing.
If this song doesn’t have some kind of mental, emotional or some euphoric feeling over you. I don’t wanna know you. Nothing but raw talent!
I love the subtle change he does on the bass drum pattern at 2:25 - 2:40 compared to the album. I remember talking to a friend about this when I saw them live!
Therapist: Ghost notes aren’t real they can’t hurt you.
Tomas haake: *hops on his kit*
The unit of accuracy of metronomes is measured in Haake.
Measured in Pi.
I saw what you did there🙃
Everyone is so impressed with his drumming... I'm impressed with his hair...at his age!
he’s not that old
Me too! Love his long blonde hair- beautiful. Nice looking man. Love his drumming of course but I also appreciate his beautiful tresses
Fair, but he's not the only man at his age with that hair. However, he's the only drummer on earth able to play this song to perfection
Now THIS is rhythm. Polyrhythms like this are fkn intense and crazy complicated to pull off. This man has the truest discipline.
The person who did lighting for this show deserves a raise
that's funny cuz its done by the drummer.
@@michielderpya did Tomas program the lighting?
@@michielderpya if so then he has even more of my respect
@@tomfson8609 no, its done by a person, ua-cam.com/video/MiSr8iNwWsw/v-deo.html
It's the drummer's cousin, Edvard Hansson. He has a YT channel.
i recently drove 500 KM with my mum. I played some Meshuggah, and after a while she was like "lets play something more relaxed'. I chucked on some Gojira and she was happy.
lol
oh my lol ur awesome lol
you play my 2 favorite bands
Meshuggah
Gojira
I wonder if you like Lamb of God also 😂 if you do??I gots to meet you in person
I love all 3 and Pantera . Am I the extra guy you looking for . Threesome ?
@@aceayy9973 all 4 mentioned above i love. let me add megadeth on the list. we've all been there, our roots
Holy fuck Gojira is my fav band and I fucking love Meshguggah aswell. Mastodon is great too.
Not related to these bands but I reccomend tool, Danny is a great drummer
Absolute flow state. His eyes close and he becomes the pattern.
I have must watched this about one hundred times. Damn!!
OK sheep, whatever you say sheep.
@@brodertruck8878 mama aqui, mama
Be sure to leave a comment every time that´s what i do, that´s the polite way of saying "thank you". Back after just two days proves my devotion to one song.
The answer above this one don´t mind, don´t mind me when i´m P off. 😅👍
I swear I had pants on when this started
* laughs lungs out *
Too funny
Omg hilarious😂🤣
no shame in fapping to this man
dubenstein 😂 LOL!
The worst part of the whole thing is how calm, cool and collected he looks throughout the entire song "Its no big deal, just playing bleed, just like any random Sunday afternoon"
To play it this accurately, you can't be struggling anyway. You have to own it, and be actually able to play faster too. Then you just dial it back, to a comfortable level. Only way to play as cleanly as this, with no mistakes. If he was on his actual limit of speed, there would be mistakes
As a guitarist at least he doesn't do it with a stupid look on his face like many of us do when exhibiting a level of concentration beyond normal.
It's no big deal but your still bitching.
he definitely does not look calm, cool or collected. the song is extremely demanding, and I'm sure he's grown to dislike playing it live as the years have gone by.
It’s like small slice blast beats. Very nice
I am fascinated by the combination of technical extremism with extreme artistry.
I went from rocking out every time I heard this song, to watching them individually and live to see if it's even real, now I just have one tear roll down my cheek when it comes on because it's so damn beautiful.
I am 67. I have seen many great drummers live. Ginger Baker, John Bonham, Tony Williams, Billy Cobham, Jack DeJohnette, Vinnie Coliauta, Buddy Rich, Terry Bozzio, Dennis Chambers, Lenny White, Michael Walden. And many more. But Tomas Haake is special and I believe he has retained that ancient tradition and lost art of *swing and groove* and achieved the very difficult feat of expressing *swing and groove* within the context of the Metalist genre. To maintain *swing and groove* is rare within any modern genre these days. But to do this within the Metalist genre is almost non-existant. Very very rare. Watch his interviews. I love his *attitude* as well. Respect to Mr. Haake.
I also believe that Bleed is a very important tune in terms of being a watershed event in the "metal" genre. Similar the the impact Black Dog had in 1971. The cut-time groove on the top part of the kit during the "verse" section makes the tune very "accessible" while at the same time, the kick drum and guitar parts are doing something very, very advanced technically. The whole thing is very tight. The break out sections following the verse, which doubles up the time signature, are actually "funky" although it is not "funk music" per se. However all the syncopations and accents are definitely funk-related. The middle break-down section is beautiful. Ambient and haunting. Then the solo, then the return the the verse section and then ending with the left-hand 6 over right-hand 8 drumming and ending on a dime. Great arrangement. This tune needs more study in order to really appreciate the whole thing. Peace.
manjay49
First I am SO jealous that you got to see all of those kats live! 2nd, I agree with you about Bleed being a watershed event. You should know that on their album "Contradictions Collapse" they site Earth Wind and Fire as one of their many influences. The main reason why this is my favorite band is because they are the ONLY band that plays all of the complex stuff situated within a straight 4/4 beat. Four main beats per measure. The snare (in Bleed) hits on 3 most of the time. There is no change in the time signature at all, and much of their music is in 4. They baffle people in the *thinking* crowds, but when I saw them live, people who had no clue what they were doing were moshing/headbanging etc. These guys are like my heroes. I would say that "New Millenium Cyanide Christ is more like Black Dog though. Meshuggah fans tend to be divided between the Chaosphere album, and Catch 33. The ones who dig Catch 33 are into the "creepy" vibe, but the Chaosphere people are the ones who dig the rhythmic stuff - those are the old school kats who know the deal. Anyways, I agree with your overall sentiment. Thomas seems like a super humble dude too!
@manjay49 A-fucking-men, finally someone with experience who actually gets it. I got a nice story for ya: I've met the band and they feel exactly the same way. They don't think any of this shit out, they're so used to it it's all feeling, just like all great musicians.
I'm a drummer myself and it's simply a matter of getting used to hearing layered cycles throughout a 4/4 (or sometimes triplet) groove. It's all feeling, people. This is groove-metal, a term Thomas agreed with right to my face.
holygroove2
I made a mistake about the album that sites their influences - it's Destroy Erase Improve, not Contradictions Collapse. Destroy Erase Improve has another crazy tune on it called Future Breed Machine which they also do live. You would dig it if you dig Bleed. Contradictions Collapse is more random (not mostly in 4 like what they do now), but it's still good b/c you get to hear where they came from. I really appreciate what you're saying about sound - it's something that we have to really be conscious of. Well said again.
Silrian777
Also very well said - they used to call it "heavy metal" back in the day, but Groove metal pretty much sums it up too. Heavy or Groovy because like funk, they never lose sight of the 1. Also because of the sound on their guitars. Cool that you got to meet them. I heard them live in 2012. Still amazed at how well they performed from 2 years ago.
Their next album cover is gonna be a picture of Haake's calf
Svahn lmao
They're gonna have to zoom way way out like fucking outer space to capture them in a single photo lol
It should be.....Most Beast thing to put in a photo...
They have their own planetary rings and several moons.
it'll be called "Lactic Acid"
Love how effortlessly and calm he plays this🔥🔥
I cramped up watching the drummer keep that rythem. Very nice.
This is absolute madness. Nobody can surpass this precision. They deserve a music genre on their own, just for them. Djent is a trend, meshuggah is eternal.
Think "Extreme Rythmic Metal" has been something they have been labeled as in the past
+Sqer Ang For this type of precision, Gene Hoglan is up there too. He doesn't play as much tertiary or plain weird rhythms, but he's just as precise.
*Tomas Haake has joined the server*
*Lars Ulrich has disconnected*
**Lars has deleted his account**
@@whiffy506 Lars has threw his phone into the trash can.
Or should I say thrash can:)
Joey Jordison of Slipknot laughs?
J N I agree with you, James May have a good riff but it truly is Lars, even Kirk who puts in the work.
@J N Ulrich has admitted in interviews he can't do now a lot of the stuff he did when he was younger, and often doesn't even bother practicing. Metallica's strength grew from the songs written during Mustaine's tenure in the band.
How does this song exists, no human can create this. These are gods
0:10 start drum massacre
4:21 end drum massacre
4:55 start drum massacre
7:28 end drum massacre
Imagine any of the musicians getting even slightly offbeat during this song. There would be no way to get back
Naw...If you know the pattern well you can find yourself in there.
Especially if you wrote the song, it’s a lot easier to remember
Yeah, it ain’t their first rodeo 🤘😂
Oh shit, the thought of that just gave me anxiety chest. 😂😬
I could be wrong as i'm not a musician but i'm like 90% sure this song is just in 4/4 (obviously with some complex poly-rhythms in there) so wouldn't be crazy difficult for them to get back
they spent 6 months mastering the technique on this song for obZen. It took them that long to master all the other songs combined.
That's how they do this. They gave up six months of their life for one song. That's how. That's pure fucking dedication.
Google Prokofiev sonata no 6. To play something like that takes quite a while and as you are posting at Meshuggah, it is kinda metalish, especially the last part vivace.
But agreed bleed is definitely a technically difficult song.
Adam Bartlett And for that dedication Bleed is their most known song.
Adam Bartlett im not realy into messugha but i bow down to this track and realy only enjoyed the video too because of its awesomeness but i got the same sensation from the video watching this live these guys are legit! And thanks for the info it made me appreciate the song even more
Adam Bartlett that shit gave me goosebumps
Sorry for the dumb question...I just really curious and kinda new into Meshugga. Which technique exactly are u talking about?
The coordination to play this is just insane 🤘
He makes it look SO effortless. Absolutely incredible
I guess with some months of training i can play the Snare for this song
I can play the top part =p
I can play the triangle
After two months of practice I learned how to play this song on my computer
I can play the gash gash gash gash part.
This is ironic af, but this song, as loud and hard as it is, has a kind of hypnotic, soporific effect on me. I find it oddly relaxing. I dunno
I used to date a girl who would constantly fall asleep anytime I would put metal on. About the heaviest band she'd listen to and stay awake for is A7X, but she legit was a Stan for them. They aren't heavy, I know, but they have some groovey melodies and thrashy riffs that tend to nod her out otherwise. Even at live concerts at metal venues, metal music for her is the equivalent of counting sheep. I honestly wish I had something that made my brain relax... I'm pretty jelly right now.
im a new meshuggah fan and im surprised on the clarity of everynote unlike other metalbands
once, after 12 hours of getting no sleep on an aeroplane, with one hour until landing, i put on some meshuggah and fell asleep within minutes. true story.
I generally listen to Meshuggah almost...recreationally...
When Im actually pissed or sad Id rather go for more chaotic and wild stuff like Converge f.e.; but for working; focusing; and getting into a trancelike state of efficiency; f.e. when drawing with high precision for long amounts of time; Meshuggah is perfect.
Darker Daemon she sounds like a keep to me tbh. That’s adorable. But I could also see how that could become annoying LOL.
Is there such a thing as carpel tunnel for ankles? Holi technical, this guy is out of this world!
I never realised until watching other drum covers but the GHOST NOTES on the snare are insane. The workload is immmense.
Haake's kick consistency in this is incredible.
he uses triggers when he knows he cant get it consistently
ShadowMassacr13 That's not what I meant - I was referring to his accuracy. There is hardly any sloppiness.
Ewan Ah, right, he seems to play perfectly no matter the rhythm, I wouldn't mind having him as my drummer.
Triggers bring out inconsistency -.-
Haake isnt wearing shorts, the lower part of his pants just combusts five minutes into their set...
LMAO
The first track of that album is Combustion. Seems legit
This is the best comment Ive ever read
Bro is almost 53 and he can still play this insane song. Absolute legend!
He truly is one of the Gods of Percussion.
I wish more people understood how phenomenal Meshuggah is. Masters of rhythm and composition. So many of my friends mock me for my musical tastes; I just feel bad for them.
+Tony Allain It can be brilliant, technical and difficult to play; doesn't mean the sound will appeal to many people. Complexity doesn't cut it for most. It needs catch.
preach man
+Tony Allain this is the first time i ever heard of meshuggah.. and that was sick drumming ever!
+hoshino I've been listening to Meshuggah for almost 10 years now, and I got an 8 string shortly after I discovered them, to learn their songs. Now, for me, the songs I know in the back of my head don't seem complex, but don't be fooled, they are. It took me quite some time to be comfortable listening to them, let alone nodding my head in the 4/4, not to mention playing it myself, and I still have a hard time playing their simplest songs and keeping a straight 4/4 nodding my head. They are complex at times, but keep a straight beat throughout most songs, which make them sound simpler, and most importantly, gives their songs one hell of a groove!
***** Overrated?
By some hardcore fans perhaps, but Meshuggah has up to quite recently been severely underrated. I mean, they released groundbreaking stuff way back in 94, and they still couldn't quit their day jobs until after the release of Nothing around 2002. And to this day, they still need to tour a lot to finance the recording of their new albums.
You thinking the music sucks is one thing, that's your subjective opinion, just like I think they're the greatest metal band out there today, but objectively, they have had a huge influence on the metal scene, while still not getting the fame they deserve.
Did anyone notice the mistake that Tomas made? Yeah, neither did I. Can’t notice what isn’t there.
Mistakes can't appear if Thomas don't allow them to appear
Lmao that was good.
He hit a tom rim on a fill near the beginning
Hard to make mistakes when it's all mechanic .
If you listen closely there's some extremely slight desync on certain cues, but like its so minor youd never notice it in attendance and if anything it proves how insane it is because you know he's still human
Everything about this brings me so much joy. This, forever.
every fan should attend a show if they can. from the front the spotlights are behind them so you just see tall silhouettes, five across, standing over you while they play. then Jens Kidman head bangs with his foot on a monitor like he's on top of a mountain, it's epic, and the fans are amazing. some of the nicest fans I've ever met.
I mastered the 4:22-4:54 part on drums.
HAHAHA good one ^ _ ^ i actually went to go check
The only part that humans are capable of doing. The rest can only be played by demons.
@@davecrupel2817 You got that fucking right hahaha
Dez - fuck you dez
Only the first part is playable, need the rhythms at the next parts because it's to hard to figure out
I am now 67 years old. I have seen and experienced Meshuggah live in London Dec 20, 2014 and also Jan 20, 2017. Let me, one of The Elders, report back to any and all:
Meshuggah are in a league of their own.
did you go or is it dementia causing you to think you have been
yes
yes you went or yes you did not
Exactly
is exactly or did you think you wrote exactly
Just with 2 hands, 2 feets and one head, unbeliveable, know this band, this is above my own meaning
I have no words other than I have no words
The only band were you need to bring a calculator, protractor and a compass to band practice!!
imagine the cheat sheet, bruhh
TOOL?
Not really. The songs in 4/4 haha
Dillinger Escape Plan.
dream theatre ?
Tomas Haake is not only one of the greatest drummers to grace the instrument.... but the man is an articulate, profound, and intellectual poet. He has written the lyrics to many of their songs, and if you take a read while you listen (or while you aren't listening, it is engaging either way), you will see his phenomenal eloquence come to life. This is a group of truly talented artists and individuals, thank you for your music.
He is the Neil Peart of extreme metal
True
dbo 0 beat me to it
The problem is they’re mostly showing his hands and he looks so calm and collected. Show his feet the whole time! That man is a drum God!
Just noticed that even the lights are in sync with the music.
The dude is impressive: you can see him on a video
Thomas Haake is the man, he was able to change his socks like 3 times during this without skipping a beat
And trousers too
He didn't change them. They disintegrate while playing and his feet grow new ones.
@@brentcrude8565 🤣👍🏼
@@brentcrude8565 Hahahahahaha
I bet his legs HERTA lot
Ayyy
Sadly not many will get this joke xD
shhhh keep him in the dark....
EvilAlbear If you'd know your rudiments,you'd get it
geddoutttt hahahahahahaa
2022 and still rockin out oof incredible live
People always say, "he makes this look easy." And yes, he does, but he also doesn't in a sense...you can see the insane focus and effort he's putting into it as he plays. It's not "easy" even for him. He's just a true artist of the craft and gets the job done flawlessly.
Everybody appreciates Tomas , but does anybody even know the Lightning Tech guy's name?
the cousin of Tomas Haake
Tomas Haake is powering the lights using his bass drums
It's him, Edvard Hansson: ua-cam.com/channels/X2SzBV4epScnDbunObW9Ig.html
*furious lightswitch mashing*
They use the energy generated by the bass drum to flicks the lights on and off.
This man has the calves of an olympic athlete
DjaMelaque wth that's actually an understatement
As a drummer, it took me until showing my dad this song to realize how insane this song is for everyone playing an instrument, not just Tomas. I know what the hardest part is, but when I thought about it and attempted to move my wrist like that on a guitar, I remembered the song is almost 8 minutes long. I'm sure practicing this on guitar isn't as bad as it's been on drums, but those same lengthy, complex structures on the drums are played by the guitars as well. There's always one of those songs/albums that will stand the test of time forever and will likely be just as long before true understanding/appreciation manifests for it. This is that song.
People might tell you the frontman of a band is the singer, but I think we all know the front man of meshuggah is Tomas, he is literally the heartbeat of the band
I'd say up to TVSOR it was both Tomas and Frederik