manuel luz I understand the feeling, I remember when Korn was a new thing and I had been heavy into the bass at the time. I remember thinking if ever met Fieldey there would be no circumstance under which I would tell him that I played bass! 🤦
Fun fact: During this performance, he was still recovering from a herniated disc that affected his right leg/foot. So this is how he plays when he's struggling to control one of his feet.
@@JesterWDEIt hasn’t been done live since around 2012. Their old light show was impressive as fuck and yes, it was done live, but once they started using in ear monitors and playing to a click track (notice how there’s no count in at the start of the song, they all just start playing in perfect timing) they could have an even more intricate light show that has much more going on that I think would be impossible to do manually for one person, or at least difficult enough that mistakes would happen frequently.
@@Remykapel for sure! I just think Meshuggah are such perfectionists and they wanted to push it further without pushing their light guy too hard. The mistakes I’ve seen Meshuggah do are few and far between, but it’s always hilarious when it happens. Last I saw was when the band started playing Born in Dissonance, but Tomas started playing Ligature Marks (or if it was the other way around) and it took like… quite a while before they stopped playing and Jens was like ”fuck, we just played two different songs.” Setlist mixup I guess, but it was pretty hilarious.
Im a Drummer and i understand why hes so calm its normal people to say so yes. the thing is he practiced it ALOT and by alot i mean like everyday just that song its fucked up with the legs. They werent even sure is it gonna be on the album bcs its as i said fucked up with legs. In this song he plays softer bcs its harder and on other he plays harder.
Awesome. A lot of counting lol. Staying calm, saving stamina for the rest of the show. I used to be really into this style of drumming years ago. Seen them with Fear Factory and Slayer. But yeah, it’s definitely a different approach. I’m more of a moody drummer I guess, my style is a lot different. It would take a lot of practice and conditioning to play like this, if that’s your thing. He’s been writing drums this way for 20 years so it’s probably second nature
He had a herniated disc a while ago that's he's still having nerve problems with, he can't exactly go mad lmao He also does this song with only single strokes o_O
I feel like a lot of people don't appreciate just how tight the whole band (and not just Thomas) has to be to pull off this song live. Any miniscule deviation from the correct rhythm would be instantly noticeable and make the whole song/riff sound like mud. The fact that that NEVER happens in their performances is mind blowing. Absolutely incredible musicians.
Lol I have the whole song mapped out in software (along with most of their songs that I couldn’t figure out by ear.) You just have to learn it slow and bring the speed up after you comprehend it.
+ Ownageyeahful Yeah, that's pretty accurate haha I seriously can't even get a few seconds in without fucking up the rhythm. A true masterpiece of a beat, for sure.
+ownageyeahful many have tried… and many have failed ;) I can get the first part and get it pretty good… then in the second chorus… it all chops and changes.. and then chops again… and changes…………. and then chops :(
According to Tomas, the song was so difficult to get right, it almost didn't make the record. It took him as long to get this song right as it the the rest of the record combined! So don't fret, Tomas doesn't hide the fact he worked his butt off to make the song as flawless as it sounds.
I doubt he thinks he plays it perfectly, someone at that level of play is sure to have some perfectionism mentality in there despite being truly amazing
I am 67. I have seen many great drummers live. Ginger Baker, John Bonham, Tony Williams, Billy Cobham, Jack DeJohnette, Vinnie Coliauta, Buddy Rich, Terry Bozzio, Dennis Chambers, Lenny White, Michael Walden. And many more. But Tomas Haake is special and I believe he has retained that ancient tradition and lost art of *swing and groove* and achieved the very difficult feat of expressing *swing and groove* within the context of the Metalist genre. To maintain *swing and groove* is rare within any modern genre these days. But to do this within the Metalist genre is almost non-existant. Very very rare. Watch his interviews. I love his *attitude* as well. Respect to Mr. Haake.
I also believe that Bleed is a very important tune in terms of being a watershed event in the "metal" genre. Similar the the impact Black Dog had in 1971. The cut-time groove on the top part of the kit during the "verse" section makes the tune very "accessible" while at the same time, the kick drum and guitar parts are doing something very, very advanced technically. The whole thing is very tight. The break out sections following the verse, which doubles up the time signature, are actually "funky" although it is not "funk music" per se. However all the syncopations and accents are definitely funk-related. The middle break-down section is beautiful. Ambient and haunting. Then the solo, then the return the the verse section and then ending with the left-hand 6 over right-hand 8 drumming and ending on a dime. Great arrangement. This tune needs more study in order to really appreciate the whole thing. Peace.
manjay49 First I am SO jealous that you got to see all of those kats live! 2nd, I agree with you about Bleed being a watershed event. You should know that on their album "Contradictions Collapse" they site Earth Wind and Fire as one of their many influences. The main reason why this is my favorite band is because they are the ONLY band that plays all of the complex stuff situated within a straight 4/4 beat. Four main beats per measure. The snare (in Bleed) hits on 3 most of the time. There is no change in the time signature at all, and much of their music is in 4. They baffle people in the *thinking* crowds, but when I saw them live, people who had no clue what they were doing were moshing/headbanging etc. These guys are like my heroes. I would say that "New Millenium Cyanide Christ is more like Black Dog though. Meshuggah fans tend to be divided between the Chaosphere album, and Catch 33. The ones who dig Catch 33 are into the "creepy" vibe, but the Chaosphere people are the ones who dig the rhythmic stuff - those are the old school kats who know the deal. Anyways, I agree with your overall sentiment. Thomas seems like a super humble dude too!
@manjay49 A-fucking-men, finally someone with experience who actually gets it. I got a nice story for ya: I've met the band and they feel exactly the same way. They don't think any of this shit out, they're so used to it it's all feeling, just like all great musicians. I'm a drummer myself and it's simply a matter of getting used to hearing layered cycles throughout a 4/4 (or sometimes triplet) groove. It's all feeling, people. This is groove-metal, a term Thomas agreed with right to my face.
holygroove2 I made a mistake about the album that sites their influences - it's Destroy Erase Improve, not Contradictions Collapse. Destroy Erase Improve has another crazy tune on it called Future Breed Machine which they also do live. You would dig it if you dig Bleed. Contradictions Collapse is more random (not mostly in 4 like what they do now), but it's still good b/c you get to hear where they came from. I really appreciate what you're saying about sound - it's something that we have to really be conscious of. Well said again.
Silrian777 Also very well said - they used to call it "heavy metal" back in the day, but Groove metal pretty much sums it up too. Heavy or Groovy because like funk, they never lose sight of the 1. Also because of the sound on their guitars. Cool that you got to meet them. I heard them live in 2012. Still amazed at how well they performed from 2 years ago.
This isnt just a difficult drum beat, but every instrument has an extremely difficult riff and is hard for even the most talented of folks. This band are god tier musicians
@@paradigmshiftz7that bend in the riff when you're keeping the rhythm going is tricky sounds class to. It's an 8 string so not having one I haven't played it tho. You could down tune a six strong wouldn't sound good enough tho I'll just listen to them 😊
@@teacherfromthejungles6671 Here the legs aren't exactly following. For example in the first beat, the snare falls on a different section of the herta 3 times. It just loops around, so on the 4th snare falls on the same place as the 1st.
In the Swedish documentary "Hård rock på export" pt 3 they complained about how much they hate performing this song live. "It's just a stamina exercise" - and the interviewer went: "Well, who's fault is that?"
i recently drove 500 KM with my mum. I played some Meshuggah, and after a while she was like "lets play something more relaxed'. I chucked on some Gojira and she was happy.
Holy fuck Gojira is my fav band and I fucking love Meshguggah aswell. Mastodon is great too. Not related to these bands but I reccomend tool, Danny is a great drummer
This is one of those songs where everyone is like, "WOW! WTF did I just hear?" This song will be played in 1000 years and people will still be using it is an example of amazing musicianship.
Tomas Haake is not only one of the greatest drummers to grace the instrument.... but the man is an articulate, profound, and intellectual poet. He has written the lyrics to many of their songs, and if you take a read while you listen (or while you aren't listening, it is engaging either way), you will see his phenomenal eloquence come to life. This is a group of truly talented artists and individuals, thank you for your music.
Meshuggah is the most criminally underrated band of all time. Like for real, the entire music industry owes them a lot for all of the studio engineering and live performance effects they invented and pushed into the scene.
@@Gr13fKvltthey may be well known in the extreme metal scene, but they are definitely not “very well compensated”. The music industry doesn’t pay as well as you may think for metal bands
@@Gr13fKvlt dumb comment, they are not even that famous in the metal scene, and they consistently get lower numbers than the bands they influenced such as animals as leaders or periphery. most people don't even understand whats going on in meshuggah's music.
This is absolute madness. Nobody can surpass this precision. They deserve a music genre on their own, just for them. Djent is a trend, meshuggah is eternal.
One of my favorite things Haake's performance has done is get veteran drummers from all types of drummers in awe at what he's pulled off in this song. It's Haake's magnum opus as a drummer.
The worst part of the whole thing is how calm, cool and collected he looks throughout the entire song "Its no big deal, just playing bleed, just like any random Sunday afternoon"
To play it this accurately, you can't be struggling anyway. You have to own it, and be actually able to play faster too. Then you just dial it back, to a comfortable level. Only way to play as cleanly as this, with no mistakes. If he was on his actual limit of speed, there would be mistakes
he definitely does not look calm, cool or collected. the song is extremely demanding, and I'm sure he's grown to dislike playing it live as the years have gone by.
I wish more people understood how phenomenal Meshuggah is. Masters of rhythm and composition. So many of my friends mock me for my musical tastes; I just feel bad for them.
+Tony Allain It can be brilliant, technical and difficult to play; doesn't mean the sound will appeal to many people. Complexity doesn't cut it for most. It needs catch.
+hoshino I've been listening to Meshuggah for almost 10 years now, and I got an 8 string shortly after I discovered them, to learn their songs. Now, for me, the songs I know in the back of my head don't seem complex, but don't be fooled, they are. It took me quite some time to be comfortable listening to them, let alone nodding my head in the 4/4, not to mention playing it myself, and I still have a hard time playing their simplest songs and keeping a straight 4/4 nodding my head. They are complex at times, but keep a straight beat throughout most songs, which make them sound simpler, and most importantly, gives their songs one hell of a groove!
***** Overrated? By some hardcore fans perhaps, but Meshuggah has up to quite recently been severely underrated. I mean, they released groundbreaking stuff way back in 94, and they still couldn't quit their day jobs until after the release of Nothing around 2002. And to this day, they still need to tour a lot to finance the recording of their new albums. You thinking the music sucks is one thing, that's your subjective opinion, just like I think they're the greatest metal band out there today, but objectively, they have had a huge influence on the metal scene, while still not getting the fame they deserve.
It's intense when it's super quiet and the crowd starts clapping. The anticipated double bass drums starting up again with that combined is just AMAZING.
I think he meant 4 months just to get the guitar part down. Which is easier than the drums. Which sounds pretty realistic lol. The note changes are so fucking annoying even if it's not really a difficult left hand song.
I'm not a fan of Meshuggah but the amount of stamina and precision it takes to keep that rhythm going for minutes at a time is something I cant fathom. I respect that
Jeez the part at 4:20 when the break happens he puts down his sticks and just takes a breather so perfectly I could imagine he needs it so bad at that point they definitely wrote that part into the song knowing how hard it would be on them live even for the guitars it’s basically a hardcore workout
This tune has rightfully become legendary for that main drum pattern but don't sleep on the solo section. There's 60 seconds of tightly cyclical rhythm guitar that doesn't *quite* repeat itself and Haake nonetheless kicks out every minuscule variation of the riffage. Just an unreal band.
they spent 6 months mastering the technique on this song for obZen. It took them that long to master all the other songs combined. That's how they do this. They gave up six months of their life for one song. That's how. That's pure fucking dedication.
Google Prokofiev sonata no 6. To play something like that takes quite a while and as you are posting at Meshuggah, it is kinda metalish, especially the last part vivace. But agreed bleed is definitely a technically difficult song.
Adam Bartlett im not realy into messugha but i bow down to this track and realy only enjoyed the video too because of its awesomeness but i got the same sensation from the video watching this live these guys are legit! And thanks for the info it made me appreciate the song even more
Being a drummer of 36 years, I've heard of Meshuggah but I've never actually listened to their music until now. This blew my mind how tight Tomas and the guitar players are. Their music and singer remind me somewhat of my favorite metal band Pantera. Meshuggah has a new fan today! Well done.
I used to date a girl who would constantly fall asleep anytime I would put metal on. About the heaviest band she'd listen to and stay awake for is A7X, but she legit was a Stan for them. They aren't heavy, I know, but they have some groovey melodies and thrashy riffs that tend to nod her out otherwise. Even at live concerts at metal venues, metal music for her is the equivalent of counting sheep. I honestly wish I had something that made my brain relax... I'm pretty jelly right now.
once, after 12 hours of getting no sleep on an aeroplane, with one hour until landing, i put on some meshuggah and fell asleep within minutes. true story.
I generally listen to Meshuggah almost...recreationally... When Im actually pissed or sad Id rather go for more chaotic and wild stuff like Converge f.e.; but for working; focusing; and getting into a trancelike state of efficiency; f.e. when drawing with high precision for long amounts of time; Meshuggah is perfect.
I am now 67 years old. I have seen and experienced Meshuggah live in London Dec 20, 2014 and also Jan 20, 2017. Let me, one of The Elders, report back to any and all: Meshuggah are in a league of their own.
@@RobertELee420 i would say so. no one else could do it as well. vast majority is technical or rhythmic. this is the song that merges the 2. and that whole concept to me was the cymbals crashing into one while fading to zero. while everything elses timing is tracing a clock.
I've been playing the drums for 34 years, and when I heard this it broke my drumming brain! It took me 2 years to be able to get the song into my drumming brain, this is one of my favourite beats ever played.
My favorite Meshuggah joke goes something like this: The Swiss were proud to be at the cutting edge of science when they made the Large Hadron Collider, a machine capable of smashing particles together at nearly the speed of light. Such a feat of precision and downright space-time altering technology was heretofore unheard of, truly a modern marvel. We had begun to glimpse cosmic forces come within humanity's grasp. Sweden's response was Meshuggah.
Definitely wouldnt be impossible to get back. If you miss time for example the "3" in the 77535 part, then you can just wait for the 5 and join back in.
every fan should attend a show if they can. from the front the spotlights are behind them so you just see tall silhouettes, five across, standing over you while they play. then Jens Kidman head bangs with his foot on a monitor like he's on top of a mountain, it's epic, and the fans are amazing. some of the nicest fans I've ever met.
If you listen closely there's some extremely slight desync on certain cues, but like its so minor youd never notice it in attendance and if anything it proves how insane it is because you know he's still human
You know the thing when you find a song and you listen to it over and over and over again? Until you kinda get over it and move to other things. That happened to me with Bleed, but it has lasted one and a half years. I still listen to this song almost daily, I am dead serious. It's fucking crazy. I'm hypnotized by the brrrta. Thank you Bill Burr.
apart from Bleed, i had something similar with a few songs The White Guy (Dagoba) The Violation (Fleshgod Apocalypse) Beautiful Fire (Dekadent) Stellar Depopulation (Wormed) Lavantine Betrayal (Dekadent) In'El (First Fragment) Incomprehensibly Evolved (Sonivinos)
2:26 holy shit, he's running the full 16th notes on the kick, and still keeping the accents and triple strokes... that definitely wasn't on the recording! Badass! I love seeing what musicians do as they get more comfortable with their material and add more to it. ❤️
Interestingly, in his playthrough of the song 7 years ago, Troy Wright does this move. I wonder if Tomas watched the video and took the idea? I agree though, it's definitely a cool addition on the original!
I read an interview with Haake where he said the drums on the last few Meshuggah albums were programmed, maybe they couldn't get the same level of nuance for accents on the 8th note riding pattern he does over the complex bass & snare patterns on the record compared to how he feels he can do it live. Tbh I'm not very keen on the production of their last few albums, the drum sound especially seems better for me (more natural, can hear ghost notes more) on Nothing. The triple strokes you mention are on the snare? As in two ghosted notes and one accented? It's a bit hard to see in the video and the ghost notes aren't very audible, although I'm sure they would've been live! Thanks to Bleed I've started trying to play hertas on double bass, I can get it up to a decent speed now but playing anything over the top I find really difficult, even straight quarters. He must need a ridiculous level of independence to do everything else as well. It's not straight hertas on the double bass for the first verse is it, its based on hertas but I'm sure I hear lots of variations and 16th notes added in. Some day, when my skill level is up to it I'll try and learn the full song on drums :-)
People always say, "he makes this look easy." And yes, he does, but he also doesn't in a sense...you can see the insane focus and effort he's putting into it as he plays. It's not "easy" even for him. He's just a true artist of the craft and gets the job done flawlessly.
He's simply the best metal drummer I've ever heard! Unbelievable chops, groove, metronomic precision, within an asymmetrical meter scheme. Heavy as Hell!
He doesn't seem to het tired at all. And that's a 7 MINUTE long song. I tried to air drum to this and after 30seconds of complete shit air drumming i got a cramp, fell over and watched the rest of the video while laying on the floor, questioning if Toomas really is a human or not.
I look at things, things that I don't understand but I understand humans. Through my own body and the experiences of what I've had I can relate on the physicality on how he plays. It's efortless. It's soft. His torso is stable, his limbs including his head are doing the whips of fury he produces from the metronome of death inside of him. His one with his performance and his output. The only thing he seems to focus is his breathing, the skills come naturally for him. Don't get me wrong hes focusing immensly, but also at the same time at that level he can let the body do the work and focus on the thing that makes him groove, his breathing. It's a release, it gives so much as he gives in to it. The main thing is that he has that level and yeah he doesn't get tired, only after hours.. .
Listen..some of the worlds best drummers, go to watch this band live, just to be simply amazed that Tomas can play this unbelievable live. Absolutely jaw dropping talent..BLEED is a symphony of destruction
@J N Ulrich has admitted in interviews he can't do now a lot of the stuff he did when he was younger, and often doesn't even bother practicing. Metallica's strength grew from the songs written during Mustaine's tenure in the band.
I equate Meshuggah with trance music, it's a trip in itself. I've done so many long road trips listening to Meshuggah on repeat and it's a psychedelic journey I love.
I've fallen asleep to this song. The song is droning in it's own way. This song is just full speed balls to the walls almost the whole time which makes it sound almost like its a low soothing hum
I can just imagine Tomas coming in the studio and Fredrik swinging in his chair going “Do I have a riff for you!” and hits play and Tomas hears it and just walks back out the door..😂
Tomas haake has more control over his feet then I have over my life
«than»
😂
🤣🤣
So practice
Haaaaaaa....im right there with ya!!!
Bass drums check under their bed for Tomas Haake before going to sleep.
lol 👍
lmao
jens -kidman- mcghee
Good one
I love this comment!
This song inspired me to give up drums
I literally laughed out loud. How does this one not have more likes? 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
lmao
manuel luz
I understand the feeling, I remember when Korn was a new thing and I had been heavy into the bass at the time.
I remember thinking if ever met Fieldey there would be no circumstance under which I would tell him that I played bass! 🤦
Fun fact: The slow interlude at 4:20 was written there for the sole purpose of preventing the insturments from bursting into flames mid-song.
I'm guessing when you say "instruments" you're talking about Tomas Haake's calf muscles and all of the band's brains
@@jadewolf1024 Including the actual instruments as well, I can imagine the heat being generated in all of them, even including the vocalist's mic lol
Hahahaha true story
Or just to breathe a little !!
Fun fact: During this performance, he was still recovering from a herniated disc that affected his right leg/foot. So this is how he plays when he's struggling to control one of his feet.
backing track moron!
Turbo Turd there’s no backing drum dumbass lol.
Backing drum track 😂😂 you mean the fucking metronome that only he is hearing through his headset! Geez oh Pete what a moron, Haake the drum God
@@turboturd7954 keep waiting for the likes 🤣🤣
@@crtl5911 i dont want likes, it more fun knowing how brainwashed 99.9% of people are by a staged production!
This song is like 13 years old and it still sounds like it's from the future.
I feel this comment describes this song absolutely perfectly!
Like listening to a fear factory cd in your car in 1997 while tripping
This kind of drumming is so difficult that so few artists will actually use this kind of playing in a live track. That's the beauty of drumming
Wdym 13 years? It's 2012 wake up
RIGHT!
Legs never skip Thomas Haake day!
Excellent comment!
Also a top 10 comment of all time, 2 in one feed. LEGENDARY.
Dude, youre a genius
Hahahahahaga best ever dude
Excellent repost
Let's take a bow to the lights technician...he's part of the band.
Crushed 👏🏻
It blew my mind to learn that all of their lighting is done live. He really is the sixth member of the band.
@@JesterWDEIt hasn’t been done live since around 2012. Their old light show was impressive as fuck and yes, it was done live, but once they started using in ear monitors and playing to a click track (notice how there’s no count in at the start of the song, they all just start playing in perfect timing) they could have an even more intricate light show that has much more going on that I think would be impossible to do manually for one person, or at least difficult enough that mistakes would happen frequently.
@@adamnilsson566 sometimes mistakes is what makes it rad..
@@Remykapel for sure! I just think Meshuggah are such perfectionists and they wanted to push it further without pushing their light guy too hard. The mistakes I’ve seen Meshuggah do are few and far between, but it’s always hilarious when it happens. Last I saw was when the band started playing Born in Dissonance, but Tomas started playing Ligature Marks (or if it was the other way around) and it took like… quite a while before they stopped playing and Jens was like ”fuck, we just played two different songs.”
Setlist mixup I guess, but it was pretty hilarious.
I like that the expression on his face throughout is “just doin’ my job” and not “my legs just burst into flames”.
Seriously though, he's surprisingly calm.
Im a Drummer and i understand why hes so calm its normal people to say so yes. the thing is he practiced it ALOT and by alot i mean like everyday just that song its fucked up with the legs. They werent even sure is it gonna be on the album bcs its as i said fucked up with legs. In this song he plays softer bcs its harder and on other he plays harder.
The only reason he can play this is because he’s calm. He’s focusing on breathing and staying relaxed.
Awesome. A lot of counting lol. Staying calm, saving stamina for the rest of the show. I used to be really into this style of drumming years ago. Seen them with Fear Factory and Slayer. But yeah, it’s definitely a different approach. I’m more of a moody drummer I guess, my style is a lot different. It would take a lot of practice and conditioning to play like this, if that’s your thing. He’s been writing drums this way for 20 years so it’s probably second nature
He had a herniated disc a while ago that's he's still having nerve problems with, he can't exactly go mad lmao
He also does this song with only single strokes o_O
I feel like a lot of people don't appreciate just how tight the whole band (and not just Thomas) has to be to pull off this song live. Any miniscule deviation from the correct rhythm would be instantly noticeable and make the whole song/riff sound like mud. The fact that that NEVER happens in their performances is mind blowing. Absolutely incredible musicians.
Gating helps with that. They probably have the click in their ears as well.
Spot on description!!
This is absolutely correct. I still can't believe I'm listening to/watching it every time. Truly incredible.
Facts!
Exactly, this is coming from a drummer
If Haake was seen doing this 300 years ago he'd have been burned at the stake for being a warlock.
That's how you know...one is truly living his life
Or the crowds would’ve instinctively headbanged.
or worshipped for being an extradimensional God
He did this. Back then he was known as Rasputin.
if he had lived in viking era, we would be vikings now :)
after years of pain and agony, i finally can play the drum part at 4:22 - 4:54
underrated comment
Lol I have the whole song mapped out in software (along with most of their songs that I couldn’t figure out by ear.) You just have to learn it slow and bring the speed up after you comprehend it.
😂😂😂😂😂
yeah man, we're both mastered it then..
Lmfao
I like to imagine Bill Burr is in this crowd getting his mind blown.
BRRTA BRRTA BRRTA
I came for brrta brrta brrta
that clip got me hooked on meshuggah haha
Trueeeee
Haadhaaajahahhahh
every metal drummers dream is to make it even one minute into this song and not be dead
+ Ownageyeahful Yeah, that's pretty accurate haha
I seriously can't even get a few seconds in without fucking up the rhythm. A true masterpiece of a beat, for sure.
Kelsterperson1 definitely one of those songs where you gotta sit down for an entire day and memorise each little part of the song
+ownageyeahful Nah, not a day, more like an year
check out Adam Gray's cover. He nails it!!!
+ownageyeahful many have tried… and many have failed ;) I can get the first part and get it pretty good… then in the second chorus… it all chops and changes.. and then chops again… and changes…………. and then chops :(
imagine how good it must feel to be able to play this flawlessly
Imagining is all the rest of us can do
According to Tomas, the song was so difficult to get right, it almost didn't make the record. It took him as long to get this song right as it the the rest of the record combined! So don't fret, Tomas doesn't hide the fact he worked his butt off to make the song as flawless as it sounds.
I doubt he thinks he plays it perfectly, someone at that level of play is sure to have some perfectionism mentality in there despite being truly amazing
Imagine how bad it hurts to play this flawlessly
Ankle pain.
Despite being heavy as hell, it's crazy how meditative and chill Meshuggah's music really is.
It's crazy how a song about dying horribly in pain and agony can be so relaxing.
@@MasteroChieftan And THAT is Obzen.
one time on lsd i watched the Clockworks video on repeat for like 3 hours. meditative indeed
Yeah, metal is not usually my go-to music when stoned. Yet here I am, lol
@@haeselian Well ultimately metal came from psychedelic rock, so why not?
When the brrrta becomes tabrrr..I live for that shit.
And then the guitar goes jyan jyan jiggi jyann jyaan
Chaka wisdom
Speaking the language of gods
That guy knows
This is the wisdom of the gods
The person who did lighting for this show deserves a raise
that's funny cuz its done by the drummer.
@@michielderpya did Tomas program the lighting?
@@michielderpya if so then he has even more of my respect
@@tomfson8609 no, its done by a person, ua-cam.com/video/MiSr8iNwWsw/v-deo.html
It's the drummer's cousin, Edvard Hansson. He has a YT channel.
I am 67. I have seen many great drummers live. Ginger Baker, John Bonham, Tony Williams, Billy Cobham, Jack DeJohnette, Vinnie Coliauta, Buddy Rich, Terry Bozzio, Dennis Chambers, Lenny White, Michael Walden. And many more. But Tomas Haake is special and I believe he has retained that ancient tradition and lost art of *swing and groove* and achieved the very difficult feat of expressing *swing and groove* within the context of the Metalist genre. To maintain *swing and groove* is rare within any modern genre these days. But to do this within the Metalist genre is almost non-existant. Very very rare. Watch his interviews. I love his *attitude* as well. Respect to Mr. Haake.
I also believe that Bleed is a very important tune in terms of being a watershed event in the "metal" genre. Similar the the impact Black Dog had in 1971. The cut-time groove on the top part of the kit during the "verse" section makes the tune very "accessible" while at the same time, the kick drum and guitar parts are doing something very, very advanced technically. The whole thing is very tight. The break out sections following the verse, which doubles up the time signature, are actually "funky" although it is not "funk music" per se. However all the syncopations and accents are definitely funk-related. The middle break-down section is beautiful. Ambient and haunting. Then the solo, then the return the the verse section and then ending with the left-hand 6 over right-hand 8 drumming and ending on a dime. Great arrangement. This tune needs more study in order to really appreciate the whole thing. Peace.
manjay49
First I am SO jealous that you got to see all of those kats live! 2nd, I agree with you about Bleed being a watershed event. You should know that on their album "Contradictions Collapse" they site Earth Wind and Fire as one of their many influences. The main reason why this is my favorite band is because they are the ONLY band that plays all of the complex stuff situated within a straight 4/4 beat. Four main beats per measure. The snare (in Bleed) hits on 3 most of the time. There is no change in the time signature at all, and much of their music is in 4. They baffle people in the *thinking* crowds, but when I saw them live, people who had no clue what they were doing were moshing/headbanging etc. These guys are like my heroes. I would say that "New Millenium Cyanide Christ is more like Black Dog though. Meshuggah fans tend to be divided between the Chaosphere album, and Catch 33. The ones who dig Catch 33 are into the "creepy" vibe, but the Chaosphere people are the ones who dig the rhythmic stuff - those are the old school kats who know the deal. Anyways, I agree with your overall sentiment. Thomas seems like a super humble dude too!
@manjay49 A-fucking-men, finally someone with experience who actually gets it. I got a nice story for ya: I've met the band and they feel exactly the same way. They don't think any of this shit out, they're so used to it it's all feeling, just like all great musicians.
I'm a drummer myself and it's simply a matter of getting used to hearing layered cycles throughout a 4/4 (or sometimes triplet) groove. It's all feeling, people. This is groove-metal, a term Thomas agreed with right to my face.
holygroove2
I made a mistake about the album that sites their influences - it's Destroy Erase Improve, not Contradictions Collapse. Destroy Erase Improve has another crazy tune on it called Future Breed Machine which they also do live. You would dig it if you dig Bleed. Contradictions Collapse is more random (not mostly in 4 like what they do now), but it's still good b/c you get to hear where they came from. I really appreciate what you're saying about sound - it's something that we have to really be conscious of. Well said again.
Silrian777
Also very well said - they used to call it "heavy metal" back in the day, but Groove metal pretty much sums it up too. Heavy or Groovy because like funk, they never lose sight of the 1. Also because of the sound on their guitars. Cool that you got to meet them. I heard them live in 2012. Still amazed at how well they performed from 2 years ago.
This isnt just a difficult drum beat, but every instrument has an extremely difficult riff and is hard for even the most talented of folks. This band are god tier musicians
At first I read "good tier" and was going to reply wtf. Then I read GOD and gave a like
Agreed, as a guitarist I can tell it's difficult to keep every single last note sounding tight and in time with the rest of the band
@@paradigmshiftz7that bend in the riff when you're keeping the rhythm going is tricky sounds class to. It's an 8 string so not having one I haven't played it tho. You could down tune a six strong wouldn't sound good enough tho I'll just listen to them 😊
Meshuggah is the only band where the guitar solo is the easiest part of the song to play
Thomas haake and mario duplantier go to a bar to drink a quarter.
Quarter bar becomes 21/32 polyrhythm.
Is that a reference to the Rick Beato video "What makes this song great - Metallica - Master Of Puppets"?
Is that a reference to the video Rick Beato did on Master of puppets?
Love both bands. I think Mario might be even better... They're both amazing!!!! Also love Rick Beato. lol
*laughs in oddly difficult time signature*
Yeah . Mario on toxic Garbage island or heaviest matter of the universe
Clearly a cyborg sent from the future to bring about the apocalypse, but got sidetracked and became a metal drummer.
+Mighty Dingus those god damned sidequests.
+João Rodil +Mighty Dingus you have both won the internet today.
+Mighty Dingus You sir just won the internet.
second that shit.
+Mighty Dingus I like how your pic is steve brule. For you health!!
One minute of silence for all the ghost notes no one heard
Best comment
He is using them to stay in time 😀
i mean that is the main point of ghost notes
Graca Endre=truth
Hes actually playing the funkiest ghost note pattern on the snare almost the entire song.
One of the most legendary drum performances in the history of music.
Moving the melody into the cymbals for the climax is one of the most impressive things I've experienced in listening to music.
I find it absolutely hilarious how chill he is. Just another day at work laying bricks.
That’s literally the only way you can play this. Any body tension and you’ll lose control.
He’s actually said in interviews he wasn’t able to play this part until he just got completely relaxed
While I’m over here shitting brix
@@MCLemonyfresh 3:05 "completely relaxed")
His mind is off wondering about his next fishing trip. He’s said so, I’m stressing watching and my feet TRY to play what he is playing.
The lighting guy deserve a medal. 10/10
He's a brother of one of the band members I believe
exactly bro.
Light by midi
Thats his cousin actually, keeping it in the family
The lights are annoying af lol
Hands: aiite lets play 4/4 in half time
Brain: cool..sounds tight
Feet: so anyway I started blasting
blastbeat is a hand technique. what he plays with feet is polyrhythms
Strabby Crabby not polyrhythms, just hertas. Also blast beats are both a hand and leg technique.
@@parkerrailton9774 legs just follow what hands are doing, either both or one of them
@@teacherfromthejungles6671 Here the legs aren't exactly following. For example in the first beat, the snare falls on a different section of the herta 3 times. It just loops around, so on the 4th snare falls on the same place as the 1st.
@@fsmraps I was talking about blastbeats. I know what hertas are.
In the Swedish documentary "Hård rock på export" pt 3 they complained about how much they hate performing this song live. "It's just a stamina exercise" - and the interviewer went: "Well, who's fault is that?"
@robertkarlsson8008 Tror du inte fattade att @olalmartins skojade.
Epic
LMAO true 😂
Meshuggah sounds like an industrial plant with all of its machines and sirens playing in perfect sync.
Great fucking analogy, dude...
I have always said they sound like a giant, monsterous, diesel engine...
I imagine Bill Burr standing in the crowd leaping into temporary insanity
Haha I remeber he talked about this in his podcast
@@alkatraz706 Bill's learning to play drums so he can play "ba dum tish" to his own jokes
brrrda brrrda brrrda brrrda brrrda brrrda brrrda
@@tamarothA 😂
@@tamarothA but also brrrrdadadadadadada brrrdadadadadadada brrrrdadadadada bbrdadada brrrrrdadadadada
i recently drove 500 KM with my mum. I played some Meshuggah, and after a while she was like "lets play something more relaxed'. I chucked on some Gojira and she was happy.
lol
oh my lol ur awesome lol
you play my 2 favorite bands
Meshuggah
Gojira
I wonder if you like Lamb of God also 😂 if you do??I gots to meet you in person
I love all 3 and Pantera . Am I the extra guy you looking for . Threesome ?
@@aceayy9973 all 4 mentioned above i love. let me add megadeth on the list. we've all been there, our roots
Holy fuck Gojira is my fav band and I fucking love Meshguggah aswell. Mastodon is great too.
Not related to these bands but I reccomend tool, Danny is a great drummer
This is one of those songs where everyone is like, "WOW! WTF did I just hear?" This song will be played in 1000 years and people will still be using it is an example of amazing musicianship.
@@XYz-vy7tr good for you👍
I hope that drum kit is over 18
now that was funny
Really
Cuz he's poundin' it... EYYYYY (for the scrubs)
Lmfaooo
Beautiful
Tomas Haake is not only one of the greatest drummers to grace the instrument.... but the man is an articulate, profound, and intellectual poet. He has written the lyrics to many of their songs, and if you take a read while you listen (or while you aren't listening, it is engaging either way), you will see his phenomenal eloquence come to life. This is a group of truly talented artists and individuals, thank you for your music.
He is the Neil Peart of extreme metal
True
dbo 0 beat me to it
The unit of accuracy of metronomes is measured in Haake.
Measured in Pi.
I saw what you did there🙃
Meshuggah is the most criminally underrated band of all time. Like for real, the entire music industry owes them a lot for all of the studio engineering and live performance effects they invented and pushed into the scene.
They are probably the most mainstream extreme metal band in the business and very well compensated for that.
@@Gr13fKvltthey may be well known in the extreme metal scene, but they are definitely not “very well compensated”. The music industry doesn’t pay as well as you may think for metal bands
@@Gr13fKvlt dumb comment, they are not even that famous in the metal scene, and they consistently get lower numbers than the bands they influenced such as animals as leaders or periphery. most people don't even understand whats going on in meshuggah's music.
This is absolute madness. Nobody can surpass this precision. They deserve a music genre on their own, just for them. Djent is a trend, meshuggah is eternal.
Think "Extreme Rythmic Metal" has been something they have been labeled as in the past
+Sqer Ang For this type of precision, Gene Hoglan is up there too. He doesn't play as much tertiary or plain weird rhythms, but he's just as precise.
The light technician knows the bass drum pattern as well as Thomas Haake himself.
minilob well its his brother that controls them
Lars Lönn Cousin.
Oh thats right. My bad
+minilob There are some automation softwares, u can connect the light console with those softwares and link the lights with the bass drum punch.
Except their light technician doe sit manually as far as I know.
Everybody appreciates Tomas , but does anybody even know the Lightning Tech guy's name?
the cousin of Tomas Haake
Tomas Haake is powering the lights using his bass drums
It's him, Edvard Hansson: ua-cam.com/channels/X2SzBV4epScnDbunObW9Ig.html
*furious lightswitch mashing*
They use the energy generated by the bass drum to flicks the lights on and off.
I’ve been playing drums for over 40 years. This blows my mind.
One of my favorite things Haake's performance has done is get veteran drummers from all types of drummers in awe at what he's pulled off in this song.
It's Haake's magnum opus as a drummer.
The worst part of the whole thing is how calm, cool and collected he looks throughout the entire song "Its no big deal, just playing bleed, just like any random Sunday afternoon"
To play it this accurately, you can't be struggling anyway. You have to own it, and be actually able to play faster too. Then you just dial it back, to a comfortable level. Only way to play as cleanly as this, with no mistakes. If he was on his actual limit of speed, there would be mistakes
As a guitarist at least he doesn't do it with a stupid look on his face like many of us do when exhibiting a level of concentration beyond normal.
It's no big deal but your still bitching.
he definitely does not look calm, cool or collected. the song is extremely demanding, and I'm sure he's grown to dislike playing it live as the years have gone by.
It’s like small slice blast beats. Very nice
Legend has it that each of his feet have an IQ of over 200.
Man you just can't deFEET Tomas' drumming
Hahahaha
Not Mozart not even a fucking herniated disc in his back could stop his drumming, you literally can’t
IQ of 220
It's measured in BPM
I wish more people understood how phenomenal Meshuggah is. Masters of rhythm and composition. So many of my friends mock me for my musical tastes; I just feel bad for them.
+Tony Allain It can be brilliant, technical and difficult to play; doesn't mean the sound will appeal to many people. Complexity doesn't cut it for most. It needs catch.
preach man
+Tony Allain this is the first time i ever heard of meshuggah.. and that was sick drumming ever!
+hoshino I've been listening to Meshuggah for almost 10 years now, and I got an 8 string shortly after I discovered them, to learn their songs. Now, for me, the songs I know in the back of my head don't seem complex, but don't be fooled, they are. It took me quite some time to be comfortable listening to them, let alone nodding my head in the 4/4, not to mention playing it myself, and I still have a hard time playing their simplest songs and keeping a straight 4/4 nodding my head. They are complex at times, but keep a straight beat throughout most songs, which make them sound simpler, and most importantly, gives their songs one hell of a groove!
***** Overrated?
By some hardcore fans perhaps, but Meshuggah has up to quite recently been severely underrated. I mean, they released groundbreaking stuff way back in 94, and they still couldn't quit their day jobs until after the release of Nothing around 2002. And to this day, they still need to tour a lot to finance the recording of their new albums.
You thinking the music sucks is one thing, that's your subjective opinion, just like I think they're the greatest metal band out there today, but objectively, they have had a huge influence on the metal scene, while still not getting the fame they deserve.
It's intense when it's super quiet and the crowd starts clapping. The anticipated double bass drums starting up again with that combined is just AMAZING.
I agree with some of your views of the world. What's your IG or working YT channel?
Bleed took 7 months to learn Thomas Haake
So far it's taken me 4 months and I play guitar.
@@Vulkanzed-117 them please make a Full setlist of songs and put bleed last, play It Full and without missing a single note
@@caiooliveira8832 ... yeah!!
You tell him to do something!
I think he meant 4 months just to get the guitar part down. Which is easier than the drums. Which sounds pretty realistic lol. The note changes are so fucking annoying even if it's not really a difficult left hand song.
Wasn't he also struggling with a fresh foot injury at the time?
I guess with some months of training i can play the Snare for this song
I can play the top part =p
I can play the triangle
After two months of practice I learned how to play this song on my computer
I can play the gash gash gash gash part.
I'm not a fan of Meshuggah but the amount of stamina and precision it takes to keep that rhythm going for minutes at a time is something I cant fathom. I respect that
Jeez the part at 4:20 when the break happens he puts down his sticks and just takes a breather so perfectly I could imagine he needs it so bad at that point they definitely wrote that part into the song knowing how hard it would be on them live even for the guitars it’s basically a hardcore workout
Nah man... He CHANGES HIS SOCKS!
Lol 4:20
They put that part in there so he has time to change his socks.
I'd imagine that this guys quads rival that of olympic speed skaters.
Therapist: Ghost notes aren’t real they can’t hurt you.
Tomas haake: *hops on his kit*
This tune has rightfully become legendary for that main drum pattern but don't sleep on the solo section. There's 60 seconds of tightly cyclical rhythm guitar that doesn't *quite* repeat itself and Haake nonetheless kicks out every minuscule variation of the riffage. Just an unreal band.
fuck I still can't work that shit out at 50 listens
I read this all in excited don cherry voice
That part just came on as I got to this comment and holy shit you're so right
That is the best part of the song for me, for the exact reason you describe.
Exceptional musicianship from everyone in this band awesome group of dudes
they spent 6 months mastering the technique on this song for obZen. It took them that long to master all the other songs combined.
That's how they do this. They gave up six months of their life for one song. That's how. That's pure fucking dedication.
Google Prokofiev sonata no 6. To play something like that takes quite a while and as you are posting at Meshuggah, it is kinda metalish, especially the last part vivace.
But agreed bleed is definitely a technically difficult song.
Adam Bartlett And for that dedication Bleed is their most known song.
Adam Bartlett im not realy into messugha but i bow down to this track and realy only enjoyed the video too because of its awesomeness but i got the same sensation from the video watching this live these guys are legit! And thanks for the info it made me appreciate the song even more
Adam Bartlett that shit gave me goosebumps
Sorry for the dumb question...I just really curious and kinda new into Meshugga. Which technique exactly are u talking about?
If this song doesn’t have some kind of mental, emotional or some euphoric feeling over you. I don’t wanna know you. Nothing but raw talent!
I mastered the 4:22-4:54 part on drums.
HAHAHA good one ^ _ ^ i actually went to go check
The only part that humans are capable of doing. The rest can only be played by demons.
@@davecrupel2817 You got that fucking right hahaha
Dez - fuck you dez
Only the first part is playable, need the rhythms at the next parts because it's to hard to figure out
Being a drummer of 36 years, I've heard of Meshuggah but I've never actually listened to their music until now. This blew my mind how tight Tomas and the guitar players are. Their music and singer remind me somewhat of my favorite metal band Pantera. Meshuggah has a new fan today! Well done.
Demiurge reminds me of walk. I think meshuggah did start as thrash but later pantera influenced the scene, they started focussing on groove
This is ironic af, but this song, as loud and hard as it is, has a kind of hypnotic, soporific effect on me. I find it oddly relaxing. I dunno
I used to date a girl who would constantly fall asleep anytime I would put metal on. About the heaviest band she'd listen to and stay awake for is A7X, but she legit was a Stan for them. They aren't heavy, I know, but they have some groovey melodies and thrashy riffs that tend to nod her out otherwise. Even at live concerts at metal venues, metal music for her is the equivalent of counting sheep. I honestly wish I had something that made my brain relax... I'm pretty jelly right now.
im a new meshuggah fan and im surprised on the clarity of everynote unlike other metalbands
once, after 12 hours of getting no sleep on an aeroplane, with one hour until landing, i put on some meshuggah and fell asleep within minutes. true story.
I generally listen to Meshuggah almost...recreationally...
When Im actually pissed or sad Id rather go for more chaotic and wild stuff like Converge f.e.; but for working; focusing; and getting into a trancelike state of efficiency; f.e. when drawing with high precision for long amounts of time; Meshuggah is perfect.
Darker Daemon she sounds like a keep to me tbh. That’s adorable. But I could also see how that could become annoying LOL.
I showed this to my brother with epilepsy and he started break-dancing. I guess he likes it
Ahhhhhhahahahahahaha Tremendous
I am now 67 years old. I have seen and experienced Meshuggah live in London Dec 20, 2014 and also Jan 20, 2017. Let me, one of The Elders, report back to any and all:
Meshuggah are in a league of their own.
did you go or is it dementia causing you to think you have been
yes
yes you went or yes you did not
Exactly
is exactly or did you think you wrote exactly
Can we all just appreciate for a second how insanely clean this ENTIRE band is
clean??? ok bud
@@RobertELee420 i would say so. no one else could do it as well. vast majority is technical or rhythmic. this is the song that merges the 2. and that whole concept to me was the cymbals crashing into one while fading to zero. while everything elses timing is tracing a clock.
Can we?! Can we all just?! Can WE!?!? FOR A SECOND?! FOR A MINUTE?! CAN WEEEEEE???
millions of people have been appreciating everything about them for decades all ready. catch up buddy 🤦♂️
t43 b@nd 4@5 @ l1ne 0f b@r5 0f 50@p m@de @fter their pl@ying. S0 F*cking Cle@n!!!
I've been playing the drums for 34 years, and when I heard this it broke my drumming brain!
It took me 2 years to be able to get the song into my drumming brain, this is one of my favourite beats ever played.
It has been said that it took Tomas 6 months to learn the song. So you're only a quarter behind him, sort of. 🤘
Just with 2 hands, 2 feets and one head, unbeliveable, know this band, this is above my own meaning
Thomas Haake is the man, he was able to change his socks like 3 times during this without skipping a beat
And trousers too
He didn't change them. They disintegrate while playing and his feet grow new ones.
@@brentcrude8565 🤣👍🏼
@@brentcrude8565 Hahahahahaha
Drummers have got to be the hardest working people in death metal........
In black metal it's the makeup artists
Yep! moreso on technical death metal, although Meshuggah ain't part of that genre.
It’s extreme metal 😎 they own the genre hahah. Sometimes referred as mathematical metal 👌🏼
@@Jubr123 Not to be confused with Mathcore and Mathrock 😂
@@Jubr123 it's all tech death / prog. 😊
What if after all this he couldn’t pat his head and rub his stomach at the same time
😂😂
Dude you just won UA-cam
Is this the greatest drum video of all time?
This is the greatest drum video of all time.
Their next album cover is gonna be a picture of Haake's calf
Svahn lmao
They're gonna have to zoom way way out like fucking outer space to capture them in a single photo lol
It should be.....Most Beast thing to put in a photo...
They have their own planetary rings and several moons.
it'll be called "Lactic Acid"
My favorite Meshuggah joke goes something like this:
The Swiss were proud to be at the cutting edge of science when they made the Large Hadron Collider, a machine capable of smashing particles together at nearly the speed of light. Such a feat of precision and downright space-time altering technology was heretofore unheard of, truly a modern marvel. We had begun to glimpse cosmic forces come within humanity's grasp.
Sweden's response was Meshuggah.
That’s brilliant
Absolutely brilliant!!!
@@Ismael-kc3ry hey you, I see you on every doom video in existence
@@jimit.4220 so I’ve been told. Guess you found me again 😆
😃
Imagine any of the musicians getting even slightly offbeat during this song. There would be no way to get back
Naw...If you know the pattern well you can find yourself in there.
Especially if you wrote the song, it’s a lot easier to remember
Yeah, it ain’t their first rodeo 🤘😂
Oh shit, the thought of that just gave me anxiety chest. 😂😬
Definitely wouldnt be impossible to get back. If you miss time for example the "3" in the 77535 part, then you can just wait for the 5 and join back in.
every fan should attend a show if they can. from the front the spotlights are behind them so you just see tall silhouettes, five across, standing over you while they play. then Jens Kidman head bangs with his foot on a monitor like he's on top of a mountain, it's epic, and the fans are amazing. some of the nicest fans I've ever met.
Legendary socks: +2 speed +3 insanity :p
King Horas: So...you have arrived. What the hell are you wearing?
Thomas Haake: It's my ass kicking outfit bitch!
Mercurial treads plus 5 attack
Did anyone notice the mistake that Tomas made? Yeah, neither did I. Can’t notice what isn’t there.
Mistakes can't appear if Thomas don't allow them to appear
Lmao that was good.
He hit a tom rim on a fill near the beginning
Hard to make mistakes when it's all mechanic .
If you listen closely there's some extremely slight desync on certain cues, but like its so minor youd never notice it in attendance and if anything it proves how insane it is because you know he's still human
You know the thing when you find a song and you listen to it over and over and over again? Until you kinda get over it and move to other things. That happened to me with Bleed, but it has lasted one and a half years. I still listen to this song almost daily, I am dead serious. It's fucking crazy. I'm hypnotized by the brrrta. Thank you Bill Burr.
apart from Bleed, i had something similar with a few songs
The White Guy (Dagoba)
The Violation (Fleshgod Apocalypse)
Beautiful Fire (Dekadent)
Stellar Depopulation (Wormed)
Lavantine Betrayal (Dekadent)
In'El (First Fragment)
Incomprehensibly Evolved (Sonivinos)
Going on six months myself...
Runs through my blood. Been my favorite band since the 90’s. Brought me nothing but joy 😝🤘🏻
This has got to be the best comments section I've been in. Really entertaining while listening Tomas blast away his kick drums. Keep 'em coming. 😄
I swear I had pants on when this started
* laughs lungs out *
Too funny
Omg hilarious😂🤣
no shame in fapping to this man
dubenstein 😂 LOL!
PROOF MESHUGGAH INVENTED TIME .
The technical perfect song... and mind breaking as much as relaxing song ever made....
terrifyingly meditative
The Synchro between Guitar and Drums is sick.
saw them live a few days ago. Not a single note was offset the whole concert, and the sound was crystal clear. This band is not human!
Anaximander29A_and_912_others a
I'm kinda proud to say I attended a show at which they actually fucked up. Well, Marten did anyway.. lol
Best thing in metal is a locked in groovy heavy ass riff
Jordan Ramsay-Jenkins Groove is what i love, though. Sounds slow but heavy asf
2:26 holy shit, he's running the full 16th notes on the kick, and still keeping the accents and triple strokes... that definitely wasn't on the recording! Badass! I love seeing what musicians do as they get more comfortable with their material and add more to it. ❤️
Never noticed the accents before. This is virgil donati level
Interestingly, in his playthrough of the song 7 years ago, Troy Wright does this move. I wonder if Tomas watched the video and took the idea? I agree though, it's definitely a cool addition on the original!
You just made me realize that despite the hundreds of drumming videos I've seen I know absolutely nothing.
I read an interview with Haake where he said the drums on the last few Meshuggah albums were programmed, maybe they couldn't get the same level of nuance for accents on the 8th note riding pattern he does over the complex bass & snare patterns on the record compared to how he feels he can do it live. Tbh I'm not very keen on the production of their last few albums, the drum sound especially seems better for me (more natural, can hear ghost notes more) on Nothing. The triple strokes you mention are on the snare? As in two ghosted notes and one accented? It's a bit hard to see in the video and the ghost notes aren't very audible, although I'm sure they would've been live! Thanks to Bleed I've started trying to play hertas on double bass, I can get it up to a decent speed now but playing anything over the top I find really difficult, even straight quarters. He must need a ridiculous level of independence to do everything else as well. It's not straight hertas on the double bass for the first verse is it, its based on hertas but I'm sure I hear lots of variations and 16th notes added in. Some day, when my skill level is up to it I'll try and learn the full song on drums :-)
Luke Barker The only 2 albums they use programmed drums was Catch 33 and the re-recorded version of Nothing. Every other album is Tomas.
You know it's a Meshuggah show when crowd claps in time
People always say, "he makes this look easy." And yes, he does, but he also doesn't in a sense...you can see the insane focus and effort he's putting into it as he plays. It's not "easy" even for him. He's just a true artist of the craft and gets the job done flawlessly.
He's simply the best metal drummer I've ever heard! Unbelievable chops, groove, metronomic precision, within an asymmetrical meter scheme. Heavy as Hell!
The only band were you need to bring a calculator, protractor and a compass to band practice!!
imagine the cheat sheet, bruhh
TOOL?
Not really. The songs in 4/4 haha
Dillinger Escape Plan.
dream theatre ?
he does a cymbal catch at 2:08 which makes my heart stop with utter amazement .
William Stanway yes.the precision in that catch is exact
Fuck!
Like catching a meteor over the horizon in the corner of your eye...
William Stanway he's a machine with feel & groove
Impeccable timing, would love to see his brain activity whilst playing this song!
Does he even hit the symbol??? I've watched it five times and I can't even see it 🤣
I love how chill these guys are. Especially how imo they incompas pretty much all the music we've had in the western world (to a point)
Not only is he a drummer god, he is also the main songwriter in Meshuggah, it's insane
Lyricist you mean. The main song writer typically is Frederik.
Can you imagine being the drummer of a guitarist wrote this for you? I'd be pissed
Just like Neil Pert wrote most of Rush's lyrics. We drummers are versatile!!!
@@zodiacmanan . Fred and Martin equally.
He doesn't seem to het tired at all. And that's a 7 MINUTE long song. I tried to air drum to this and after 30seconds of complete shit air drumming i got a cramp, fell over and watched the rest of the video while laying on the floor, questioning if Toomas really is a human or not.
Ei ole. Ta on terminator 6.
I got to 2 minutes of air drumming and I was fine! Can't say the same for my legs
I got tired just from seen him play
as a matter of fact..air drumming is much harder .
I look at things, things that I don't understand but I understand humans. Through my own body and the experiences of what I've had I can relate on the physicality on how he plays. It's efortless. It's soft. His torso is stable, his limbs including his head are doing the whips of fury he produces from the metronome of death inside of him. His one with his performance and his output. The only thing he seems to focus is his breathing, the skills come naturally for him. Don't get me wrong hes focusing immensly, but also at the same time at that level he can let the body do the work and focus on the thing that makes him groove, his breathing. It's a release, it gives so much as he gives in to it. The main thing is that he has that level and yeah he doesn't get tired, only after hours.. .
This drummer can really wipe out I.S.I.S. with his drumming sounding machine guns..
😂😂😂😂😂 made my day
Lol.. that’s awesome
Everything about this brings me so much joy. This, forever.
2:40 gives me chills every time
Same
that rhythmic pattern is just insane
absolutely
Try not to.. whatever challenge 🤘😅
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This man has the calves of an olympic athlete
DjaMelaque wth that's actually an understatement
he kinda makes it look easy but on close inspection you can see that he is in some super focus mode that no other human has ever achieved
Listen..some of the worlds best drummers, go to watch this band live, just to be simply amazed that Tomas can play this unbelievable live. Absolutely jaw dropping talent..BLEED is a symphony of destruction
*Tomas Haake has joined the server*
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**Lars has deleted his account**
@@whiffy506 Lars has threw his phone into the trash can.
Or should I say thrash can:)
Joey Jordison of Slipknot laughs?
J N I agree with you, James May have a good riff but it truly is Lars, even Kirk who puts in the work.
@J N Ulrich has admitted in interviews he can't do now a lot of the stuff he did when he was younger, and often doesn't even bother practicing. Metallica's strength grew from the songs written during Mustaine's tenure in the band.
I still can't believe that rhythm.
Rasmus Henriksen I know, if I didn't see him play it then I wouldn't of believed a man could play like that.
I'm still in study of this song even before beginning to attempt playing it on guitar. 11 years of study going strong....
Yeah that's exactly what I'm thinking.
It's almost alien
Lol I can... RLR L RLR L RLR L. Rinse and repeat for 8 minutes
This not only fixed my constipation, but also healed my hemorrhoids.
Noice
He makes it look SO effortless. Absolutely incredible
I'm a jazz and Funk man but I love this, it's like hearing a big motor with a heavy groove
This song is hypnotic. Gets me into almost a trance every time.
It's a wonderful balance of monotony with the guitar kick drum riff and the variations as the song passes through. :)
I equate Meshuggah with trance music, it's a trip in itself. I've done so many long road trips listening to Meshuggah on repeat and it's a psychedelic journey I love.
I've fallen asleep to this song. The song is droning in it's own way. This song is just full speed balls to the walls almost the whole time which makes it sound almost like its a low soothing hum
Lord Baktor
U want to shoot up little kids and shit.
Same. And I've never stopped mid song, even if I'm running late to something.
Now THAT is tight. Freaking flawless
I can just imagine Tomas coming in the studio and Fredrik swinging in his chair going “Do I have a riff for you!” and hits play and Tomas hears it and just walks back out the door..😂
The entire song, besides the solos and tonal changes, is thomas's deed