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For "What a concert is like", check Bill Burrs bit on Meshuggah. He describes it rather well. The way I would describe it is pure energy. And knowing the themes of all the songs so you know where the music comes from adds even more to the experience. Bleed for one is about the experience of having an Aneurism. The droning drums and bass, the distorted vocals, it all fits really well.
A Meshuggah concert is like getting mugged by Santa Clause and then being left for dead in madagascar only to be saved by an angel who was expelled from heaven for j-walking. It is pure energy and pure rage and it's best if you are super messed up to get through the entire thing. Big tip for all of these gigs... don't go home after if you have been arguing with the Mrs beforehand or you might catch a case. A concert is more like a battle than a musical event you want to be at but in that it is every bit METAL and makes Baby MEtal look like a Japan style kids show.
Well the socks thing is basically just to have a little less weight and a bit more controll when you are tired after a few hours of fast drumming. The slower paced your bass drum parts are the less impactful it is to not wear shoes
Their light show is manually ran by his cousin, every light is manually triggered by 1 button, so basically the guy is plaything their music via a light board. Live. Everynight. They are truly GEMS
@@actuallynotsteveyou’re both right, pretty sure that was only during the obzen tour that edvard was manually doing the lights, they got it programmed after
Being in a metal show, there two statuses, assume that people aren't packed together. 1) You're not in the mosh pit. Chillest crowd you'll ever be in. Seriously, we don't judge. The intensity of the music might blast your head off, but you go with the flow. 2) You're in the mosh pit. You'll bump shoulders, elbows, legs, but if you fall down or get hurt, people will lift you up or help you. The metal crowed leaves nobody behind.
Very true I'll add 3: mosh pit's dynamics are dependent on the band. I've been in the middle of many. Unfortunately, certain bands have greater numbers of douchebags as a fan base and those pits are the ones I've had to knock skulls around in.
YES! THIS! I've been in many pits of the mosh, and when someone falls down.. It all comes to a halt! I even went looking for a fallen dudes shoe that fell off! PS. He got his shoe back on and it was all good
That's how it's supposed to be, but sadly it's not anymore. At least in certain genres, we have things like crowdkilling now. And I'll never go to a CoF show again, somebody shoved a glass in my lowest rib by some a-hole.. he must have attacked others as well, because security choked him and carried him off through a side door.
The funny thing is that the band has said that it's odd for people to say they use polyphonic time signatures as they really dont. Most of their songs are in a straight 4/4 timing. As is this one. Edit: most of y'all are saying they use "polyrhythms" this is very true. I should have been clearer and said "while they use polyrhythms for their guitar riffs and some drum work, their meters are almost always 4/4. That is most of their time signatures are 4/4".
If you listen to the cymbals and snare it's almost always easy to pick up the meter. Contrast that with a lot of tech death (and thrash even on occasion) bands like Suffocation or Nile or whatever who throw in all sorts of 5/16 bars to contribute to the frenetic overall feeling
@@MegaJiiRo of course my man, but that doesn't change the time it's written in. Even if he's using polyphonic foot patterns (which even here he's not, the foot patterns are mostly ongoing drum "hertas") it doesn't change the overall time signature of the song.
Fun Fact: The Drummer of Meshuggah said he the time he spent practicing this song was roughly 50% of the album the Song was in. So the other 50% was the whole rest of the album. He also had to learn a different technique to play the double bass. And a long time they weren't sure if they wanted to put this song on the album because it was so hard.
Yeah, I remember they nearly didn't include this on the Obzen album, because even if they got it right in the studio, they weren't sure they'd be able to play it live
>so hard it takes months to do the studio version >Don't think you'll be able to do it live >'fuck it this is hard' >Becomes your most popular song tfw
@Chuck Spadina Not always true. Some guys buy all the gear before they start learning something because its what they have seen pros use and they want to be like them and they don't want to feel like their equipment plays a part in holding them back from progress so it's all down to their skill. This is sometimes how you see really nice equipment go on sale on ebay after the beginner feels a hobby is not for them but they gave it a shot.
@@Waseemqaziatx i guess he wrote his guitar part and then just matched the bass drum notes to the guitar notes by hand or in guitar pro so his drummer has a sheet to work with. maybe even a demo to listen to if he used something like guitar pro. you could program that in a DAW but it seems like a lot of work that can be avoided
Meshuggah plays the best live shows I’ve ever attended. I’m a classically trained musician and this band has brought me tears, catharsis, euphoria, the whole emotional gamut live. It’s absolutely fantastic across the board
I agree. Had the pleasure of meeting them twice. The second time I called to Maten and he called my by name and we hung out with them for an our or so. memory i will never forget was when Jens was taking the piss out of crabbing lol
They canceled a show in my countey because we elected a Christian traditionalist as president. I thought Sweden was supposed to be Christian too, it even has a cross in its flag. The problem with Metalheads is that they are the edgiest atheists ever
The music may seem "evil" but the people you meet at metal-konserts are often sweethearts, we are the nerds of the class who nobody payed attention to.. In my experience "metalheads" are just nerds who just likes aggressive music because it often tells the story that we are too polite to tell... Any way, we (metalheads) are not murderous psychopaths.. Rather the opposite
It's one of those things that's hard to explain to someone that's not into it, but extremely aggressive music, whether it's metal or something like gabber or power noise just makes me feel euphoric rather than angry. In my experience, the people in these scenes generally tend to be pretty chill, especially as the music gets more complex. If you're into it, then this kind of music can feel more like scratching an itch than aggressive.
@@PandemonicHypercube I know this comment is 3wks old but my favorite comment ever is “the mosh pit for dream theatre is just long haired nerds doing math in a circle.”
I remember an entire pit stopped at a metal show to find a dude's glasses right up in front of the stage. At a hardcore show I saw a dude get spin kicked in the head. Punk shows are the level of aggressiveness everyone thinks they'll experience at a metal show.
I can’t even comprehend how you remember the ways each phrase is different. There are so many different rhythmic queues that don’t repeat or do repeat but not in a clear pattern. It seems like he just has to know every measure of the song inside and out because he can’t just play the same rhythm for more than a few measures. Same goes for the guitar and bass parts too. The way Meshuggah messes around with different rhythms screws with my head.
+1 on the lasers and nodding in different speeds and on the peaceful environment. Also they had a discoball with insanely powerful spots on it first time I saw them, one of the coolest light-effects I've ever seen. "pustervik" is a great place to see great bands, smallish kind of place but I've been to meshuggah twice there and even tower of power once
@@Johannes_W I had the exact opposite experience lol. The crowd literally did a wall of death, and nobody in the band told us to do it either, it somehow just happened. The entire floor was just one giant mosh pit for Bleed too. Easily the most hectic crowd I've been a part of. The only peaceful moments were right before the solo of Bleed, and the last 2 mins of Straws Pulled at Random.
@@user-tu2dr3ny6x Hehe, well I can imagine this happening as well. The locations I've seen them in were pretty small (160 and 300 max capacity) locations and that might be the main reason for a chilled crowd. And in general german crowds tend to move less.
I'm not great with double pedals. I'm a lot of ass and thigh and my legs are so heavy to try and get something like this done. The closest I've gotten to is I've done the pattern 4 or 5 times over in a beat but lose the consistency. Tbh I don't care enough it doesn't say anything about somebody if they can or can't. Its extra tough no doubt
I'm an old dude who only started listening to metal over the last few years. I'd ignored metal for decades, not liking the thrash guitars and screaming vocals. But when I discovered metal bands with melodic vocals and just a bit of screaming, I was hooked. And as with medicines that one takes in increasing dosages, I became more tolerant of screaming to the point of enjoying it when it fit the song. Now I'm a full on metalhead. The music is so energetic! The music of my youth dealt with themes of girls, parties, and other pleasantries. This music examines the other emotional extremes such as anger, hopelessness, frustration, etc. It's another perspective on life.
Not sure if you'll see this reply, but check out "Overlord" by Lamb of God. The band normally does scream vocals but that song he uses a very nice clean voice.
A Meshuggah concert is, to quote Bill Burr "a life altering experience" I have been to one Meshuggah concert thus far and I didn't feel the urge to mosh or even headbang once. I was captivated through the whole set. Didn't even smoke a cigarette during the whole show, it was just staring at the stage the whole time. Can't be compared to another band, they're a whole new level.
I've seen them live about 10 times and what can I say it's intense, heavy az, some serious headbanging going on, but the crowd going to these gigs are the nicest people! The concerts are fun and the vibe in general is just completely unique. It's like a common ground for nice people that understands that the other people there are also a bit fucked in the head on the same level as you are
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Did you end up watching the Bill Burr clip, if not might be funny to do a reaction video, nobody has done it yet and he had some of the same questions as you. :-)
Metalheads and generally extreme music fans are one of the chillest communities there is. Every concert ive been to, 95% of the people are kind, calm and open minded, inclusive and comprehensive. When you go to a concert, I'd say most of the hall is standing with a beer in their hand, looking at the stage and softly keeping the tempo with their head or foot. And then there's the pit or pits, where people run and jump on each other, pushing and what not letting everything go while listening to the music. Even there, if you fall you will get helped back up by everyone around you. It's a wonderful experience to be in the midst of complete strangers enjoying the same thing and letting themselves go collectively. I remember once I was jumping and i naturally put my hand on this random guy's shoulder, and once he noticed he put his own hand onto his shoulder too so we could jump together. I didn't even see his face, but you get the general feeling of going to a metal concert. Also the bands are very chill and you can often see the members hanging around in the bars of the place and often interacting with fans outside the stage. If you've never been to a metal concert, go for it.
So true. I used to go to a bunch of hardcore punk shows. Crowd was always positive, and polite. There are rules; someone falls in the pit, you pick them up.
Absolutely True. I was at Knotfest in 2019 and During Slipknot's set the guy in the row of seats in front of had a few beers and bong hits so he was standing on the back of the seats. Instead of yelling at the dude to get down, I and the guy in front of us were standing behind him with our hands up ready to catch the dude/grab him if he fell back or forward. It really is an unspoken brotherhood.
Ok, I’ve paused since you asked. Seeing this band live is mesmerizing. When I saw them last year, people didn’t mosh. They didn’t jump. They literally stood there in a trance-like awe. Being a musician, I went there to sit back and watch. The light show is flawlessly synced up to all their crazy riffage/kick patterns/time signatures, which is visually stunning! Everything is performed PERFECTLY. It’s genuinely unlike anything I’ve ever seen. The band members don’t run around the stage or get crazy, they literally stand there, backlit, like otherworldly beings - and it didn’t bother me one bit. It was a very complementary aesthetic. The beautiful thing this band accomplishes is making both guitars, the bass and drums sound like one instrument. It’s truly captivating. I wasn’t a fan before seeing them live - I just knew, and had heard, it was something I needed to experience. I bought an album a couple weeks before the show to be able to familiarize myself with their newer songs and digest them. But sitting there and watching these guys do what they did... I was dumbfounded. The physical reaction I had from sitting at the back of The Filmore New Orleans and letting the experience wash over me was euphoric. Both myself and the guy I went with, who was a long-time fan, commented on how different we felt compared to other shows we’ve been to. It was like being high. The entire production of their live show was exquisite.
It took me alot of time to get used to myself. I pretty much need to turn off that part of my brain that craves harmony, melody and variation in texture and go into a world of pure rhythm.
Meshuggah concerts are the most brutal a human can attend. They’re so tight and flawless live. Ears rang for 5 days straight. They’re music is so heavy and rhythmic that it becomes very trace-like from all the adrenaline you feel.
@@TDobsonSmith I know right. I've had permanent ringing in my ears for a long time now. Went to a concert in 2022, and (thankfully temporarily) lost 80% of my hearing in my right ear at some point during it, but didn't realise till I left the venue. Since then, I've been to two concerts, and I wore earplugs to both with intentions of doing the same thing to the shows I've got lined up for 2023.
It’s impossible to mosh to Meshuggah. You just stand there transfixed letting the sound wash over you. Extremely musical, highly cerebral, totally original. Your face was an absolute picture while you were watching this. Fantastic.
drummer: plays the most insane polyrhythms you've ever heard, tight as ever, creating this constant hypnotic trance you can get lost in easily, along with a band of musicians who are just as talented andrew: "see that fan down there? smart." 😆
I’ll say this is a concert for geeks mostly, not there just for the concert it self, but for appreciate the musicianship. Meshuggah is not the average headbanging band.The light show is mindblowing must say.
I am truly astounded by his playing in a live show like this. It's absolutely flawless, like he was goddamn hardwired to play this song. This man is better than a machine. He's in a fucking transcendental trance, playing like this.
Speaking of metalheads and how they act. I just took my 11 year old daughter to her first concert...Korn. I explained to her how metalheads always got a bad rap as stoners and losers but the same people who called us those names are at the shows today. Also metalheads are the most respectful people of each other and they pick up after themselves not like a country concert.
I went to festivals of various genres for pleasure and work, and in my experience metal heads are the most fun to be around. Polite yet party animals, rough but taking care of one another, smart but always up for something "stupid".
'' a bad rap as stoners and losers but the same people who called us those names are at the shows today'' Before Metallica released the "Black" album, we metalheads were rednecks, idiots, stinkers, etc.. After the "Black" album, the same people who called us names started listening to Metallica. It's the same with Meshuggah. 1998-1999 I listened to "Chaosphere" for a year, only that one album and nothing else!!! The album that changed my life. I was the same redneck and everything. Today, the same people listen to Meshuggah, the last two albums, which I personally don't like... The same thing that happened with Metallica is happening again.
The metal genre is the only music genre ever invented that encompasses the whole spectrum of human emotions in all it`s known colors. The deepest dark to the brightest white. And you will occasionally find some meatheads in the pit, but we will defend them against anyone who thinks less of them,... because they are our meatheads. Generally you will find we are well informed and kind.
Well, one can say the same for progressive rock (From ELP, Yes and Gentle Giant to Island, Magma, Universe zero and the list goes on), classical music as well and also post rock and Jazz fusion. There are open minded musicians that dares to push them selves to the limits creatively abroad many genres. Also few artists have bee in so many places creatively speaking as John Coltrane, which made music so complex that Meshuggas music seem like child-play in comparison but its also because of it a very difficult and for many an unpleasant listen
Metal is several genres, but I understand what you mean. Everything from happy epic powermetal to dark depressive doom. Djent is way too technical for my ears though.
Honestly, "metalheads" (I don't know a single one who doesn't listen to a wide variety of music genres, some of the best metal musicians I know are rather appreciative of pop music actually) are some of the most caring and down to earth people you'd ever meet. I think the music originates in pure emotion, and big emotions tend to come from people who have a high level of empathy and emotional intelligence.
I always tell fellow musicians to go see Meshuggah live once in their lifetime, because there is (and probably never will be) nothing like Meshuggah. They play like machines, and sound like the most perfectly mixed album you could ever wish for. A life changing experience for a musician.
I was at a concert and the mosh pit was insane. I was in a circle of dudes, arms wrapped around each other, headbanging. It was a beautiful bro moment and my favorite mosh pit I've been in. A complete blast!
I have seen Bleed played live only once in my life. It is a moment that will be engrained in my memory forever. the vocals, bass, guitar and the drums all playing in perfect harmony. the smoke covering the crowd. the moshpit in front of me. the bodies crowdsurfing. I remember it all so vividly. at one point I swear I saw the ground shaking
Metal folk are the best. I am in my 60s and I’ve been to concerts with people decades younger than I. Always respectful. After all, everyone is there for the same reason. Let’s all hope that we can do it again one day.
I've been lucky enough to see Meshuggah twice. A Meshuggah concert is like witnessing a sonic engine of impossible immensity. It recent years the lights has become more of an integral part of their shows. Mesmerising, and lyrically spot-on. Tomas, Jens, Marten, Dick, Fredrik and (more recently) Per are awesome. I can't imagine a world without Meshuggah.
I was on acid in the mosh pit... It felt like we were the mice, fredrik, jen and hagstrom were vultures watching us. Tomas was the sound of impending doom to our little rodent lives.
When you are a teen and you listen to bands like meshuggah, you have that explosion of energy at the concert, where everyone is at the moshpit killing it. As you grew older you start to realize that it it the perfect music to layback, have a beer or tea, chill, nod your head with a huuuuge smile on the face when drummer hits those triplets and it just gets your juices flowin' in some other way. And most of us don't even headbang. We just chill and do a groove dance with head nodding like you would on some other concert.
I saw them in Atlanta, GA and took my nephew (Meshuggah is his favorite band). I am more into Korn, but I really enjoyed this concert. I am now a fan. The concert was very low key. There was a mosh pit, but I was in the rafters. Watching the fans dance and sway along to the music made for a great show too.
@@85ddrummer Nope! In the interview, he stated further that it took the same amount of time recording/learning Bleed as recording the rest of the tracks on the ObZen album because he had to learn a new doublebass drum tecnique, where he is leaning more backwards when playing Bleed opposite his usual style which is forward leaning playing or hitting the bassdrums hard. They nearly didn't get bleed on the ObZen record but he managed to learn the polyrhytm tecnique in time and thank the Almigthy for that 'cause the drumplaying is just out of this world. Another fun fact. Bleed was originally called Aneurysm because that was the feeling you were supposed to be having when listening to this song but they changed it to Bleed. 💪
Great that you brought this up as he commented many times that this was a walk in the park and no big deal to play for Haake. It certainly was when recording! The fact that a musician pushed himself so hard gave me so much more appreciation for this.
It almost didn't make the record I believe as it was such a mission to get down, but of course he's a freak and nailed it and we now get to hear bleed live 😂
The shows are amazing, there's no real violence, yea we're moshing around but at the end of the songs, we're shaking hands, hugging it out, and having a BLAST!!! it's mad fun. Great way to release energy
I first heard Meshuggah live when they opened up for Tool back in like 02 or something here in the US. Had been listening to Meshuggah for years prior to seeing them, and they blew away my expectations. As a big Tool fan at the time I was pissed because I thought Meshuggah as their opener seemed weird at the time...like Meshuggah should have been the headlining act. They are an unstoppable force.
i guess, now you're prepared for some Elliot Hoffman (Car Bomb) ua-cam.com/video/9hwpmqHSNSw/v-deo.html (live drum-cam from their european tour with Meshuggah 2014)
They where great even back in the late 80s, playing at som school in the middle of nowhere in the north of sweden. Pride and Joy of my hometown Umeå. 🤘
The best and most respectful pit!! it’s lots of older peeps that know what’s up and care for each other. And their production quality is some of the best I’ve ever heard in a concert it is the most amazing experience my favorite shows ever.
When you see Meshuggah live you realize that you're experiencing something you won't be able to communicate. It's so perfect, so intense, the polyrhythms hit you in ways you never could predict. They're in sync like an Austrian string quartet, and they're raw like you wouldn't believe. They're musician's musicians.
When Meshuggah take the stage, their presence is almost intimidating. They seem monolithic and immovable. Off stage, they are people, just like us. On stage, they are to be revered. They are church.
A meshuggah concert is like 300 people all trying their hardest to feel the rhythm of those brutal songs that attack you from every angle, but somehow simultaneously never missing a beat.
I've been a fan for almost 20 years and never had the pleasure. Definitely going when concerts resume. The last time they were in my city, I had to work that night 🤬🤬
Every metal concert I have been at was incredibly chill. If you don’t want to take part in the mosh pit, you stay out of it and enjoy the show. In the mosh pit, you might get tossed about and end up with bumps and bruises, yes - but as soon as you go down, there will always be at least two or three random guys picking you up and pulling you back on your feet. And on the off chance that you are injured, people will get you out of there and shield you. Nobody is left behind. In the pit, everyone is equal and everyone looks out for everyone else, while the „uninitiated“ might get the impression that everyone is keen on smashing someone else’s face in. But there are some unwritten iron rules that everyone follows. Among those are „no kicks, no punches, no windmilling“ and „you see someone fall, you help them up“. Whoever decides to be a douchebag, usually does not last very long in the pit. Most adorable scene ever: at a concert, one guy lost his wedding band in the pit. He let out a panicked scream when he noticed it in between two songs. Singer got wind of it and asked what was wrong. After hearing „lost wedding band“, he was like „Oh shit...hey, let’s see if we can help this guy out!“ All of a sudden, torches and lighters came out of pockets, and ppl started rummaging through the dust. Within maybe a minute, someone yelled „HEY DUDE! Is this yours?“ Seconds later, there was an overjoyous „YES!“ and the entire crowd cheered. Concert went on after that with no further incidents. This is what can happen at a metal concert. Friend of mine used to work for a company who did security for concerts and festivals. He said that given the choice, he would always prefer metal events over anything else, because those are the most peaceful gigs you can get.
Check out Gojira! Their drummer Mario is absolutely insane! Would recommend either The Heaviest Matter of the Universe or The Art of Dying (songs by them)
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Damn - I would have gone with Flying Whales for the pure musicianship that Mario has at his disposal! The guy totally just blows me away every time I hear this song!
Drum teacher reacts, says absolutely nothing about the drums. Talks more about the guys socks and then doesn't even notice he changed them half way through the song 😂
He doesnt even talk about hertas well at the end he might i dont know but he hasnt talked about hertas and he calls himself a drum teacher i came here looking for some analysis of thomas haake
He doesn't change his socks, the lighting just changes, the footage is also not just from 1 gig, it's put together from at least 2+ gigs, which could explain the different color on the socks.
As a regular Meshuggah fan - this band feels like controlled chaos, and once you "feel" the rhytm and the song it's captivating, hypnotizing. And sure as hell it's brutal. I don't think several comments will give justice for overall picture of metalheads but this "evilness" gives also some sense of relief, insane amount of passion. I don't know how to put it better in words on philosophical side but in general metal acknowledges both the good & the evil and it makes me feel closer to "truth" whatever it might be.
When a polyrhythm is looping it has a different voice every phrase (down beats may be up beats) and I feel when it's LIVE you can hear their intent better. Proper show live, can hear the depth of the guitars better, no distractions from the art. Best show I've ever been to by far.
There's not much to react to. Unrelenting 32nd note hertas on the feet being played as a polyrythem is extraordinarily technically impressive, Bleed is a hypnotic masterpiece. It's very very hard but there's not much to analyze, reaction channels are for fans who want their music to be legitimized by having a professional musician say "Wow these guys are tight."
It always blows my mind the fact that he looks so calm up on the arms but going completely insane down on the feet like HOW!? I can't even try to imitate it without getting tired 30 seconds after 🤣
Fuck even being able to play up tempo techichal death metal doesnt grant its skill to (unless you use double strokes nonstop) this....this was a trek of its own.
For some reason I've been intrigued by "In Life is Death/In Death is Death" off Catch 33, but tbh, that whole album (one continuous song) is groundbreaking
The socks is an easy thing to explain. It's comfortable. It allows ease of mobility across the footboard to increase speed on the base drum. There are variations on the technique but the basic motion is to use the low side of the board for a first strike and to slide your foot up the board on the next hit using the better leverage to maintain strength of the strike. Rinse repeat.
3:50 "what is the right hand doing?" The secret is 8th notes lol. The right hand its quarters and 8ths pretty much the whole way through. And every meshuggah song is in 4/4 base with other time signatures over top but they always work in 4/4.
Meshuggah live is a lot of people trying to move their heads but failing to grasp the beat miserably. That, and the absolute best light show you will ever see. He knows every part of every song as much as the musicians themselves.
You hit the nail of the head really. I haven't really been as much into metal for the last 10 years as I was in my teens, but in my experience, metal heads are some of the kindest and most respectful people I know. Of course, there is always the odd one out, but that is also the case for any other genre fanatics.
I love metal I’ve just never been able to get into this band. I like Death, Opeth, Cynic, some Morbid Angel, Megadeth, etc but a song like this just sounds so monotonous and grey that it’s boring to me to listen to even though I admire the musicianship greatly. There’s something about the machine feel to it that just kills my enjoyment of it and feels like it drags. The musicians are incredible though.
He has a cool double bass part, but this isn't the best song to see Gavin shine in, that would be something like Sound of Muzak playing that 7/4 over the 7/16 and making it 'dance-able' or Threatening War by Pineapple Thief to see ho creative his grooves are (and some killer fills).
@@TwoandaHater Gonna preface this with *this is just my opinion*: At least in my experience learning the two songs on drums, SoMz was a FAR easier and simpler song to learn. The groove is cool, but is mostly just Gavin playing a groove Steven already had programmed in a drum machine when Gavin got to the studio (Check out Gavin's Drumeo video on SoMz for that full story). Anesthetize is a far more original "Gavin" drum part in my opinion, and has far more licks and fills that are unique to his playing than SoMz does, even beyond the double bass polyrhythmic passage you're referring to.
I talked about this with someone i met from Belgium, this week. We both agreed that metal crowds at a concert are among the greatest and the coolest. You always see people picking up someone that falls on a pit, it's not unusual for someone to come to you and ask "hey, isn't this your shirt?" and stuff like that. Just because it's physical doesn't mean it's mindless. And a Meshuggah concert is a bit like trying to figure out how gravity combines with the other three fundamental forces while tumbling around in a washing machine.
I’ve been a metal head for over 20. The pits are intense but there is tons of love. Everyone is letting out all their pent up aggression from everyday life together but not on each other. Anyone that trips or falls down, there the crowd immediately opens a space around the person and picks them back up. Metal pits are therapy for most in it
As a dude who loves Bleed like I love my own children, and as a dude who has been playing drums for a long, long, time, I feel like people who consider Bleed Tomas's best work usually aren't drummers themselves. Undeniably, Tomas's footwork is legendary in this song, but it's mostly alot of memorizing where to place hertas over seven minutes. Clockwork is in my opinion a much more technically demanding piece.
The essence of the Bleed groove is found in "The Herta" a hybrid rudiment pattern. It's one thing to do it with the hands but with feet is next level sick to hear done so masterfully in this tune.
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For "What a concert is like", check Bill Burrs bit on Meshuggah. He describes it rather well.
The way I would describe it is pure energy.
And knowing the themes of all the songs so you know where the music comes from adds even more to the experience.
Bleed for one is about the experience of having an Aneurism. The droning drums and bass, the distorted vocals, it all fits really well.
@@enlightendbel I need to check out this Bill Burr clip!
Behemoth - Ov Fire and The Void please
A Meshuggah concert is like getting mugged by Santa Clause and then being left for dead in madagascar only to be saved by an angel who was expelled from heaven for j-walking. It is pure energy and pure rage and it's best if you are super messed up to get through the entire thing. Big tip for all of these gigs... don't go home after if you have been arguing with the Mrs beforehand or you might catch a case. A concert is more like a battle than a musical event you want to be at but in that it is every bit METAL and makes Baby MEtal look like a Japan style kids show.
Well the socks thing is basically just to have a little less weight and a bit more controll when you are tired after a few hours of fast drumming. The slower paced your bass drum parts are the less impactful it is to not wear shoes
He's wearing Scion socks. They don't make 'em anymore. He has all remaining pairs in the world. We're all outta luck. -The Wife.
How did this only get 4 likes when you're an actress and your husband is a living machine?
Hahahaha - The Wife sign cracked me up, you guys are awesome! Have a wonderful day Jessica and btw Brujeria are super sick band!! 😉
How has no one mentioned the sock change yet 😂😂
I hope you have many pairs because he probably destroys them at a pretty fast pace.
I think this song should be featured at the Scion website as an audio sample of those socks.
"He's so zen."
No, he is obZen, sir. =P
Why doesn't this comment get more attention?
This is
Obzen(e)
😍
😆
Their light show is manually ran by his cousin, every light is manually triggered by 1 button, so basically the guy is plaything their music via a light board. Live. Everynight.
They are truly GEMS
is that true 😂
incredible
@@travis8106 Yes its true ua-cam.com/video/MiSr8iNwWsw/v-deo.html
No way, it's gotta be programmed
@@actuallynotsteveyou’re both right, pretty sure that was only during the obzen tour that edvard was manually doing the lights, they got it programmed after
@@lukesorensen9432 you are actually correct
Being in a metal show, there two statuses, assume that people aren't packed together.
1) You're not in the mosh pit. Chillest crowd you'll ever be in. Seriously, we don't judge. The intensity of the music might blast your head off, but you go with the flow.
2) You're in the mosh pit. You'll bump shoulders, elbows, legs, but if you fall down or get hurt, people will lift you up or help you. The metal crowed leaves nobody behind.
Very true I'll add 3: mosh pit's dynamics are dependent on the band. I've been in the middle of many. Unfortunately, certain bands have greater numbers of douchebags as a fan base and those pits are the ones I've had to knock skulls around in.
Sooo F*** true!
Alot of boomers in the crowd also. Since they're been playing since the late 80s.
YES! THIS! I've been in many pits of the mosh, and when someone falls down.. It all comes to a halt! I even went looking for a fallen dudes shoe that fell off!
PS. He got his shoe back on and it was all good
That's how it's supposed to be, but sadly it's not anymore. At least in certain genres, we have things like crowdkilling now. And I'll never go to a CoF show again, somebody shoved a glass in my lowest rib by some a-hole.. he must have attacked others as well, because security choked him and carried him off through a side door.
A Meshuggah show is when everybody nods to the one of the 3+ time signatures and nobody is off.
The funny thing is that the band has said that it's odd for people to say they use polyphonic time signatures as they really dont. Most of their songs are in a straight 4/4 timing. As is this one.
Edit: most of y'all are saying they use "polyrhythms" this is very true. I should have been clearer and said "while they use polyrhythms for their guitar riffs and some drum work, their meters are almost always 4/4. That is most of their time signatures are 4/4".
If you listen to the cymbals and snare it's almost always easy to pick up the meter. Contrast that with a lot of tech death (and thrash even on occasion) bands like Suffocation or Nile or whatever who throw in all sorts of 5/16 bars to contribute to the frenetic overall feeling
All meshuggah songs are in 4/4, but they play metal in the 4/4th dimension ;D
@@jonathanolson1185 only thing being 4/4 is the hihat
@@MegaJiiRo of course my man, but that doesn't change the time it's written in. Even if he's using polyphonic foot patterns (which even here he's not, the foot patterns are mostly ongoing drum "hertas") it doesn't change the overall time signature of the song.
Fun Fact: The Drummer of Meshuggah said he the time he spent practicing this song was roughly 50% of the album the Song was in. So the other 50% was the whole rest of the album. He also had to learn a different technique to play the double bass. And a long time they weren't sure if they wanted to put this song on the album because it was so hard.
Yeah he had to learn heel toe to even be able to play this, that was like the first month of learning this album.
Yeah, I remember they nearly didn't include this on the Obzen album, because even if they got it right in the studio, they weren't sure they'd be able to play it live
@@rorz999 imagine Bleed never existing...
>so hard it takes months to do the studio version
>Don't think you'll be able to do it live
>'fuck it this is hard'
>Becomes your most popular song
tfw
and this guy is more bothered about whether he's wearing socks.
I so badly want Tomas Haake to take a beginner drumming class, act like he can't keep a beat, then just start playing Bleed.
HAHAHA
Like that music is win video with that Graham dude? 😆
For the first 20 seconds, ppl would be like “poor guy, he can’t keep a beat”...
@Chuck Spadina Not always true. Some guys buy all the gear before they start learning something because its what they have seen pros use and they want to be like them and they don't want to feel like their equipment plays a part in holding them back from progress so it's all down to their skill. This is sometimes how you see really nice equipment go on sale on ebay after the beginner feels a hobby is not for them but they gave it a shot.
There's no teacher that wouldn't recognize the guy th
The guitarist, Fredericks, actually wrote the drum tracks and it took Thomas Hakke 6 months to learn it live.
The most productive six months in human history. 🤘
And while the drums usually get most of the attention in this song (justly so) the guitar in this song is actually unreal.
Thats seems so typical haha. I mean the Beat is easy enough to write in guitarpro but playing it is a whole other beast.
U mean he programmed it in a DAW, or actually played it on a drum set to show it to the drummer,? coz that’d b next lvl musicianship.
@@Waseemqaziatx i guess he wrote his guitar part and then just matched the bass drum notes to the guitar notes by hand or in guitar pro so his drummer has a sheet to work with. maybe even a demo to listen to if he used something like guitar pro. you could program that in a DAW but it seems like a lot of work that can be avoided
Meshuggah plays the best live shows I’ve ever attended. I’m a classically trained musician and this band has brought me tears, catharsis, euphoria, the whole emotional gamut live. It’s absolutely fantastic across the board
Awesome! 🙌
I agree. Had the pleasure of meeting them twice. The second time I called to Maten and he called my by name and we hung out with them for an our or so. memory i will never forget was when Jens was taking the piss out of crabbing lol
ive photos if no one believes me
They canceled a show in my countey because we elected a Christian traditionalist as president.
I thought Sweden was supposed to be Christian too, it even has a cross in its flag.
The problem with Metalheads is that they are the edgiest atheists ever
Absolutely. It’s a complete sensory wash.
The music may seem "evil" but the people you meet at metal-konserts are often sweethearts, we are the nerds of the class who nobody payed attention to.. In my experience "metalheads" are just nerds who just likes aggressive music because it often tells the story that we are too polite to tell... Any way, we (metalheads) are not murderous psychopaths.. Rather the opposite
100% Very similar to horror people! I'm a slasher fanatic. I'm not a murderer though!!!
It's one of those things that's hard to explain to someone that's not into it, but extremely aggressive music, whether it's metal or something like gabber or power noise just makes me feel euphoric rather than angry.
In my experience, the people in these scenes generally tend to be pretty chill, especially as the music gets more complex.
If you're into it, then this kind of music can feel more like scratching an itch than aggressive.
Big facts 💯💪 love you all
@@PandemonicHypercube I know this comment is 3wks old but my favorite comment ever is “the mosh pit for dream theatre is just long haired nerds doing math in a circle.”
I remember an entire pit stopped at a metal show to find a dude's glasses right up in front of the stage. At a hardcore show I saw a dude get spin kicked in the head. Punk shows are the level of aggressiveness everyone thinks they'll experience at a metal show.
Whats your workout routine?
“I play Bleed by Meshuggah on my drums.”
HAHA Dean!
Honestly lol
Every day is a leg day if you're a metal band drummer.
them calves are thicc boi
Works the right leg a lot more than the left lol
Metal concerts are like a weekend camping with the boys; it’s loud, exciting, unpredictable, sometimes violent, and everyone comes away smiling.
Beautiful Tommy!
You goddamn right
I cant believe he literally hits every single fricken note perfectly live for this song. Like EVERY NOTE! In perfect timing
Just imagine the cramps after the shows
It's "machine metal", if you would hear the human player the performance just wouldn't work. It's meant to be played like that only
Only took like 6 years for him to master the song entirely
Plus adds ghost notes on the snare.
I can’t even comprehend how you remember the ways each phrase is different. There are so many different rhythmic queues that don’t repeat or do repeat but not in a clear pattern. It seems like he just has to know every measure of the song inside and out because he can’t just play the same rhythm for more than a few measures. Same goes for the guitar and bass parts too. The way Meshuggah messes around with different rhythms screws with my head.
A Meshuggah concert is basically a bunch of peoples heads nodding at their own pace to the music, but everyone is still on beat somehow. :)
HAHA Love it
Yeah, actually very calm and peaceful experience. Haven't seen a mosh pit the two times I've witnessed one of their concerts.
+1 on the lasers and nodding in different speeds and on the peaceful environment. Also they had a discoball with insanely powerful spots on it first time I saw them, one of the coolest light-effects I've ever seen. "pustervik" is a great place to see great bands, smallish kind of place but I've been to meshuggah twice there and even tower of power once
@@Johannes_W I had the exact opposite experience lol. The crowd literally did a wall of death, and nobody in the band told us to do it either, it somehow just happened. The entire floor was just one giant mosh pit for Bleed too. Easily the most hectic crowd I've been a part of. The only peaceful moments were right before the solo of Bleed, and the last 2 mins of Straws Pulled at Random.
@@user-tu2dr3ny6x Hehe, well I can imagine this happening as well. The locations I've seen them in were pretty small (160 and 300 max capacity) locations and that might be the main reason for a chilled crowd. And in general german crowds tend to move less.
It took me two years to get this one down, practiced 2 hours 3 days a week, and I've been playing for 32 years, this is utter madness within Zen.
Woah, you can play this?!
"Utter madness within Zen" literally how the album got its name! ObZen is just Obscene mixed with Zen
I'm not great with double pedals. I'm a lot of ass and thigh and my legs are so heavy to try and get something like this done. The closest I've gotten to is I've done the pattern 4 or 5 times over in a beat but lose the consistency. Tbh I don't care enough it doesn't say anything about somebody if they can or can't. Its extra tough no doubt
@@Major_Fuzzz I didn't know that , nice one for the info , nice to know my thoughts on the song are similar to where the band were when writing it .
@@aboutthemetal8783 I thin that Obzene álbum art is actually an interpretation of Tomas on Zen mode growing to a godness level
I'm an old dude who only started listening to metal over the last few years. I'd ignored metal for decades, not liking the thrash guitars and screaming vocals. But when I discovered metal bands with melodic vocals and just a bit of screaming, I was hooked. And as with medicines that one takes in increasing dosages, I became more tolerant of screaming to the point of enjoying it when it fit the song. Now I'm a full on metalhead. The music is so energetic! The music of my youth dealt with themes of girls, parties, and other pleasantries. This music examines the other emotional extremes such as anger, hopelessness, frustration, etc. It's another perspective on life.
Hell yeah dude that warmed my metalhead heart🥲🤘
Not sure if you'll see this reply, but check out "Overlord" by Lamb of God. The band normally does scream vocals but that song he uses a very nice clean voice.
Periphery!!!
LOVE that shit!!!
Love to hear stuff like this. Im a metalhead who couldnt stand pop music until I got older.
A Meshuggah concert is, to quote Bill Burr "a life altering experience"
I have been to one Meshuggah concert thus far and I didn't feel the urge to mosh or even headbang once. I was captivated through the whole set. Didn't even smoke a cigarette during the whole show, it was just staring at the stage the whole time. Can't be compared to another band, they're a whole new level.
I need to watch this Bill Burr Clip!!!
I've seen them 4 times..its amazing..and wonderfully chaotic at the same time..
So that's why this crowd wasn't moving. It looked like the majority was bored out of their minds waiting for the main act 🤷
I've seen them live about 10 times and what can I say it's intense, heavy az, some serious headbanging going on, but the crowd going to these gigs are the nicest people! The concerts are fun and the vibe in general is just completely unique. It's like a common ground for nice people that understands that the other people there are also a bit fucked in the head on the same level as you are
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Did you end up watching the Bill Burr clip, if not might be funny to do a reaction video, nobody has done it yet and he had some of the same questions as you. :-)
Meshuggah live was such a physical sensation for me. The bass almost compressed your body and you felt the groove like no other band.
Amazing band live. Probably catched 10 concerts so far. Hopefully many more. It's zen like. Incredibly tight and always amazing sound in my experience
The best description was by the curator at Tate england: "A Meshuggah concert is like having architecture thrown at you. It's a unique form."
Metalheads and generally extreme music fans are one of the chillest communities there is. Every concert ive been to, 95% of the people are kind, calm and open minded, inclusive and comprehensive. When you go to a concert, I'd say most of the hall is standing with a beer in their hand, looking at the stage and softly keeping the tempo with their head or foot. And then there's the pit or pits, where people run and jump on each other, pushing and what not letting everything go while listening to the music. Even there, if you fall you will get helped back up by everyone around you. It's a wonderful experience to be in the midst of complete strangers enjoying the same thing and letting themselves go collectively. I remember once I was jumping and i naturally put my hand on this random guy's shoulder, and once he noticed he put his own hand onto his shoulder too so we could jump together. I didn't even see his face, but you get the general feeling of going to a metal concert. Also the bands are very chill and you can often see the members hanging around in the bars of the place and often interacting with fans outside the stage. If you've never been to a metal concert, go for it.
Damn just chilling at a concert with a beer sounds so fucking nice
So true. I used to go to a bunch of hardcore punk shows. Crowd was always positive, and polite. There are rules; someone falls in the pit, you pick them up.
METALHEADS: THE GLOBAL BROTHERHOOD!
This is really accurate, brother.
Absolutely True. I was at Knotfest in 2019 and During Slipknot's set the guy in the row of seats in front of had a few beers and bong hits so he was standing on the back of the seats. Instead of yelling at the dude to get down, I and the guy in front of us were standing behind him with our hands up ready to catch the dude/grab him if he fell back or forward. It really is an unspoken brotherhood.
Chronos: I am the God of time
Tomas Haake: Hold my beer
you made me spit my beer hahahahahaha
If I read better comment today I'll buy YOU a beer!
Vocals: *"Aggressive"*
Bass: *"Heavy"*
Guitars: *"Crazy"*
Drums: *It's called "Bleed" for some reason!*
🤣👌
Ok, I’ve paused since you asked. Seeing this band live is mesmerizing. When I saw them last year, people didn’t mosh. They didn’t jump. They literally stood there in a trance-like awe. Being a musician, I went there to sit back and watch. The light show is flawlessly synced up to all their crazy riffage/kick patterns/time signatures, which is visually stunning! Everything is performed PERFECTLY. It’s genuinely unlike anything I’ve ever seen. The band members don’t run around the stage or get crazy, they literally stand there, backlit, like otherworldly beings - and it didn’t bother me one bit. It was a very complementary aesthetic. The beautiful thing this band accomplishes is making both guitars, the bass and drums sound like one instrument. It’s truly captivating. I wasn’t a fan before seeing them live - I just knew, and had heard, it was something I needed to experience. I bought an album a couple weeks before the show to be able to familiarize myself with their newer songs and digest them. But sitting there and watching these guys do what they did... I was dumbfounded. The physical reaction I had from sitting at the back of The Filmore New Orleans and letting the experience wash over me was euphoric. Both myself and the guy I went with, who was a long-time fan, commented on how different we felt compared to other shows we’ve been to. It was like being high.
The entire production of their live show was exquisite.
Bleed is surely not their best song but damn, that drum - bass - guitar unison over like 7minutes is so bloody bonkers
100%
It is their best song
What's the best song?
@@OfficialArthusamakh clockworks is ok, I think Humiliative and Dancers are really good, also Behind the Sun is really underrated
@@OrlandoAponte imo, it's Dancers.
Alternate title: Lord Varys is mind blown by Tomas Haake's drumming
Hahahahaha I knew he reminded me of someone
This needs more likes
YEEEEESSSSS!!!
Bruhh 😭😭😭
I'm dead 💀
A Meshuggah show is a mystical experience, just pure energy and adrenaline NON-STOP, but also, it puts you in a weirdly "magical" mental state.
It took me alot of time to get used to myself. I pretty much need to turn off that part of my brain that craves harmony, melody and variation in texture and go into a world of pure rhythm.
Meshuggah concerts are the most brutal a human can attend. They’re so tight and flawless live. Ears rang for 5 days straight. They’re music is so heavy and rhythmic that it becomes very trace-like from all the adrenaline you feel.
Ears ringing is not a good thing.
@@TDobsonSmith I know right. I've had permanent ringing in my ears for a long time now. Went to a concert in 2022, and (thankfully temporarily) lost 80% of my hearing in my right ear at some point during it, but didn't realise till I left the venue. Since then, I've been to two concerts, and I wore earplugs to both with intentions of doing the same thing to the shows I've got lined up for 2023.
It's probably time for The heaviest matter of the universe - Gojira. Mario is also a monster
or Gojira- The Art of Dying (Live at Vieilles Charrues Festival 2010) is a pretty awesome showcase of Mario's skill
@@jeremys.9905 Nah, garorock festival is the better choice.
Dry7123 I’ll have to check that out then!
YES! Please react to Mario Duplantier!!
Lost in Vegas reaction for that is awesome :)
It’s impossible to mosh to Meshuggah. You just stand there transfixed letting the sound wash over you. Extremely musical, highly cerebral, totally original. Your face was an absolute picture while you were watching this. Fantastic.
drummer: plays the most insane polyrhythms you've ever heard, tight as ever, creating this constant hypnotic trance you can get lost in easily, along with a band of musicians who are just as talented
andrew: "see that fan down there? smart." 😆
I’ll say this is a concert for geeks mostly, not there just for the concert it self, but for appreciate the musicianship. Meshuggah is not the average headbanging band.The light show is mindblowing must say.
I am truly astounded by his playing in a live show like this. It's absolutely flawless, like he was goddamn hardwired to play this song. This man is better than a machine. He's in a fucking transcendental trance, playing like this.
He's legit tighter than a drum machine. It's nuts
Speaking of metalheads and how they act. I just took my 11 year old daughter to her first concert...Korn. I explained to her how metalheads always got a bad rap as stoners and losers but the same people who called us those names are at the shows today. Also metalheads are the most respectful people of each other and they pick up after themselves not like a country concert.
100% Erik! Always good people I've found
I went to festivals of various genres for pleasure and work, and in my experience metal heads are the most fun to be around. Polite yet party animals, rough but taking care of one another, smart but always up for something "stupid".
'' a bad rap as stoners and losers but the same people who called us those names are at the shows today''
Before Metallica released the "Black" album, we metalheads were rednecks, idiots, stinkers, etc.. After the "Black" album, the same people who called us names started listening to Metallica. It's the same with Meshuggah. 1998-1999 I listened to "Chaosphere" for a year, only that one album and nothing else!!! The album that changed my life. I was the same redneck and everything. Today, the same people listen to Meshuggah, the last two albums, which I personally don't like... The same thing that happened with Metallica is happening again.
Meshuggah's darkest secret is that most of their songs are 4/4, they're just hiding "1" in the middle a phrase!
What really subconsciously throws people off is that the snare hits on the 3rd beat of the measure
Nailed it
@@Dry7123 in some parts of this song and others yes ;)
So its a whole 63/64 bar for example, am i right :)
So, is the 1 silent???
The metal genre is the only music genre ever invented that encompasses the whole spectrum of human emotions in all it`s known colors.
The deepest dark to the brightest white.
And you will occasionally find some meatheads in the pit, but we will defend them against anyone who thinks less of them,... because they are our meatheads.
Generally you will find we are well informed and kind.
Love it Patrick!
And I agree
Well, one can say the same for progressive rock (From ELP, Yes and Gentle Giant to Island, Magma, Universe zero and the list goes on), classical music as well and also post rock and Jazz fusion. There are open minded musicians that dares to push them selves to the limits creatively abroad many genres. Also few artists have bee in so many places creatively speaking as John Coltrane, which made music so complex that Meshuggas music seem like child-play in comparison but its also because of it a very difficult and for many an unpleasant listen
Metal is several genres, but I understand what you mean. Everything from happy epic powermetal to dark depressive doom. Djent is way too technical for my ears though.
Honestly, "metalheads" (I don't know a single one who doesn't listen to a wide variety of music genres, some of the best metal musicians I know are rather appreciative of pop music actually) are some of the most caring and down to earth people you'd ever meet. I think the music originates in pure emotion, and big emotions tend to come from people who have a high level of empathy and emotional intelligence.
Jim Root of Slipknot has said he listens to Ariana Grande lol
I always tell fellow musicians to go see Meshuggah live once in their lifetime, because there is (and probably never will be) nothing like Meshuggah. They play like machines, and sound like the most perfectly mixed album you could ever wish for. A life changing experience for a musician.
A Meshuggah concert?
Bunch of people, basically in some kind of trance, totally spaced out.
It's fun :D
He is the first man who listens to bleed and drink coffee like nothing happens 🤣🤣
HAHA!
I was at a concert and the mosh pit was insane. I was in a circle of dudes, arms wrapped around each other, headbanging. It was a beautiful bro moment and my favorite mosh pit I've been in. A complete blast!
Hey dad, your "me sugar" joke was not lost upon us
I have seen Bleed played live only once in my life. It is a moment that will be engrained in my memory forever.
the vocals, bass, guitar and the drums all playing in perfect harmony. the smoke covering the crowd. the moshpit in front of me. the bodies crowdsurfing. I remember it all so vividly. at one point I swear I saw the ground shaking
😍
“Great FOOTAGE, too!” Heyooooooooo we see what you did there
HAHA Dave!
watch bill burr on meshuggah, you'll understand
Sounds intriguing
Yep, that's the best description you'll get :D
@@Sir_vAce Great!
Yup Bill nails it in the head!
"It's the only band where three different people can be headbanging in three different rhythms, and all be right!"
3 people banging their heads to different beats. that is meshuggah!!!!!! its pure energy
Metal folk are the best. I am in my 60s and I’ve been to concerts with people decades younger than I. Always respectful. After all, everyone is there for the same reason. Let’s all hope that we can do it again one day.
I've been lucky enough to see Meshuggah twice. A Meshuggah concert is like witnessing a sonic engine of impossible immensity. It recent years the lights has become more of an integral part of their shows. Mesmerising, and lyrically spot-on. Tomas, Jens, Marten, Dick, Fredrik and (more recently) Per are awesome. I can't imagine a world without Meshuggah.
“This is out of my comfort zone”-gets stank face mid groove
It’s no longer out of your comfort zone haha
HAHA!
Mario Duplantier. Gojira. "The heaviest matter of the universe"
YEEEEEEEEEESSS, That was the first song Ive heard from them and I was hooked ever since. It was the live performance in France I saw on UA-cam.
@Axel the Frank bless you
Mario is a beast, he’s on a whole other level.
My vote is for where dragons dwell live where he just goes off on the last minutes with machine gun kicks
Esoteric surgeryyy
I was on acid in the mosh pit... It felt like we were the mice, fredrik, jen and hagstrom were vultures watching us. Tomas was the sound of impending doom to our little rodent lives.
That is fucking scary
That sounds fuckin awesome
@Siegfried Sieger mushrooms would be better than acid tbh. For Meshuggah, it'd be enlightening!
That's a lot of variables to deal with on acid! Mad respect.
Never been to a metal show, btw. Fascinating.
Amazing
When you are a teen and you listen to bands like meshuggah, you have that explosion of energy at the concert, where everyone is at the moshpit killing it. As you grew older you start to realize that it it the perfect music to layback, have a beer or tea, chill, nod your head with a huuuuge smile on the face when drummer hits those triplets and it just gets your juices flowin' in some other way. And most of us don't even headbang. We just chill and do a groove dance with head nodding like you would on some other concert.
PLEASE can we get a reaction to Matt Gartska. Watch any of his instructional series videos, absolutely amazing.
I'll try!
@Noah McNeill orrrrrrrrrrrrrrr his lippincott vid from on his drumeo visit.. fuggin ridiculous lol
Yessss
100% this!!!
hands down one of the best metal drummers today
The moshpit is only optional at a metal show not madatory.
If it's Bleed, it's mandatory
@@Rubenz343 do you know how many old fuckers go to these shows that wouldn't survive a moshpit.
unless... ua-cam.com/video/O9ZUW4GL470/v-deo.html
I disagree
I'm 40 and I'd be more than happy to get flattened by a wall of death.
I saw them in Atlanta, GA and took my nephew (Meshuggah is his favorite band). I am more into Korn, but I really enjoyed this concert. I am now a fan. The concert was very low key. There was a mosh pit, but I was in the rafters. Watching the fans dance and sway along to the music made for a great show too.
Great to hear Melissa!
I read in an interview that it took him 6 months to learn the polyrhytm patterns in this song.
Damn lol
I heard 3 months. While he was recovering from a knee surgery
@@85ddrummer Nope! In the interview, he stated further that it took the same amount of time recording/learning Bleed as recording the rest of the tracks on the ObZen album because he had to learn a new doublebass drum tecnique, where he is leaning more backwards when playing Bleed opposite his usual style which is forward leaning playing or hitting the bassdrums hard. They nearly didn't get bleed on the ObZen record but he managed to learn the polyrhytm tecnique in time and thank the Almigthy for that 'cause the drumplaying is just out of this world. Another fun fact. Bleed was originally called Aneurysm because that was the feeling you were supposed to be having when listening to this song but they changed it to Bleed. 💪
Great that you brought this up as he commented many times that this was a walk in the park and no big deal to play for Haake. It certainly was when recording! The fact that a musician pushed himself so hard gave me so much more appreciation for this.
It almost didn't make the record I believe as it was such a mission to get down, but of course he's a freak and nailed it and we now get to hear bleed live 😂
Matt Garstka - "Ectogenesis" and "Tooth and Claw" are quite amazing playthroughs that I highly recommend.
The shows are amazing, there's no real violence, yea we're moshing around but at the end of the songs, we're shaking hands, hugging it out, and having a BLAST!!! it's mad fun. Great way to release energy
100% Jorge
It's the guy starting problems that quickly gets escorted out by everyone. Then everyone goes back to violently but lovingly enjoying the music.
Thanks so much for comments guys. Love your passion!
Loads more videos on the way!
Please... if u you really want to hear want to hear/see one of the best drummers of these days, check out "Leprous - The Sky is Red"
@@Leopardrian I'll try and get to it my man!
I first heard Meshuggah live when they opened up for Tool back in like 02 or something here in the US. Had been listening to Meshuggah for years prior to seeing them, and they blew away my expectations. As a big Tool fan at the time I was pissed because I thought Meshuggah as their opener seemed weird at the time...like Meshuggah should have been the headlining act. They are an unstoppable force.
During this time had a bad disk in his back had almost No control over his right foot.
i guess, now you're prepared for some Elliot Hoffman (Car Bomb)
ua-cam.com/video/9hwpmqHSNSw/v-deo.html
(live drum-cam from their european tour with Meshuggah 2014)
They where great even back in the late 80s, playing at som school in the middle of nowhere in the north of sweden. Pride and Joy of my hometown Umeå. 🤘
The best and most respectful pit!! it’s lots of older peeps that know what’s up and care for each other. And their production quality is some of the best I’ve ever heard in a concert it is the most amazing experience my favorite shows ever.
MGLA - Exercises in futility drum cam is something you should experience
Thank you!
100% agree
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Exercises in futility V, is probably the best one drum wise
Seconded/thirded/whatever! The king of the bells ;) Also Kriegsmaschine (same drummer), but those seem difficult to find :(
yes please
Definitely check out Dan Presland (Ne Obliviscaris) playthrough of “And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope”
I think this is a better Presland choice:
ua-cam.com/video/urVipHSdLO0/v-deo.html
Or any other ne obliviscaris song. But cnt go wrong with plague
Yes yes yes yes yeeeeeees
When you see Meshuggah live you realize that you're experiencing something you won't be able to communicate. It's so perfect, so intense, the polyrhythms hit you in ways you never could predict. They're in sync like an Austrian string quartet, and they're raw like you wouldn't believe.
They're musician's musicians.
I recommend you strongly for the next teaction to watch Gene HOGLAN title is The Philosopher from the iconic band Death.
A masterpiece for drum
Thank you!
Gene Hoglan is a metal drumming heavy weight for sure! Sean Reinert was also a great drummer before Gene replaced him in the band.
Gene “The Atomic Clock” Hoglan
When Meshuggah take the stage, their presence is almost intimidating. They seem monolithic and immovable. Off stage, they are people, just like us.
On stage, they are to be revered. They are church.
Metalheads are the most respectful crowd i have ever come across. i have 37 years experience going to concerts, from small to very large.
"Its so Zen"
lol...the album is called ObZen...
A meshuggah concert is like 300 people all trying their hardest to feel the rhythm of those brutal songs that attack you from every angle, but somehow simultaneously never missing a beat.
Honestly, once the Rona is a thing of the past, get yourself to a gig. It'll blow your mind at how good these guys really are.
I've been a fan for almost 20 years and never had the pleasure. Definitely going when concerts resume. The last time they were in my city, I had to work that night 🤬🤬
Meshuggah live are a GIANT wall of sound! Crowd is chill and depends where you are of course.
Every metal concert I have been at was incredibly chill. If you don’t want to take part in the mosh pit, you stay out of it and enjoy the show. In the mosh pit, you might get tossed about and end up with bumps and bruises, yes - but as soon as you go down, there will always be at least two or three random guys picking you up and pulling you back on your feet. And on the off chance that you are injured, people will get you out of there and shield you. Nobody is left behind. In the pit, everyone is equal and everyone looks out for everyone else, while the „uninitiated“ might get the impression that everyone is keen on smashing someone else’s face in. But there are some unwritten iron rules that everyone follows. Among those are „no kicks, no punches, no windmilling“ and „you see someone fall, you help them up“. Whoever decides to be a douchebag, usually does not last very long in the pit.
Most adorable scene ever: at a concert, one guy lost his wedding band in the pit. He let out a panicked scream when he noticed it in between two songs. Singer got wind of it and asked what was wrong. After hearing „lost wedding band“, he was like „Oh shit...hey, let’s see if we can help this guy out!“
All of a sudden, torches and lighters came out of pockets, and ppl started rummaging through the dust. Within maybe a minute, someone yelled „HEY DUDE! Is this yours?“ Seconds later, there was an overjoyous „YES!“ and the entire crowd cheered. Concert went on after that with no further incidents.
This is what can happen at a metal concert. Friend of mine used to work for a company who did security for concerts and festivals. He said that given the choice, he would always prefer metal events over anything else, because those are the most peaceful gigs you can get.
Great stuff!
Check out Gojira! Their drummer Mario is absolutely insane! Would recommend either The Heaviest Matter of the Universe or The Art of Dying (songs by them)
Coming up on Monday Michael!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Damn - I would have gone with Flying Whales for the pure musicianship that Mario has at his disposal! The guy totally just blows me away every time I hear this song!
@@mattwillis4562 Flying Whales...the shortest 8 minute song ever. It never feels long enough. Love it.
I second the art of dying, that song is absolutely fuckin killer, it's long but it's amazing musically.
Drum teacher reacts, says absolutely nothing about the drums. Talks more about the guys socks and then doesn't even notice he changed them half way through the song 😂
3.
He doesnt even talk about hertas well at the end he might i dont know but he hasnt talked about hertas and he calls himself a drum teacher i came here looking for some analysis of thomas haake
He doesn't change his socks, the lighting just changes, the footage is also not just from 1 gig, it's put together from at least 2+ gigs, which could explain the different color on the socks.
Thats because the drumms on this song is soo overrated...
@@mariuss2200 and so are you..
As a regular Meshuggah fan - this band feels like controlled chaos, and once you "feel" the rhytm and the song it's captivating, hypnotizing. And sure as hell it's brutal. I don't think several comments will give justice for overall picture of metalheads but this "evilness" gives also some sense of relief, insane amount of passion. I don't know how to put it better in words on philosophical side but in general metal acknowledges both the good & the evil and it makes me feel closer to "truth" whatever it might be.
Fantastic comments Marcin. Thank you
LEPROUS - The Sky Is Red (Drum Playthrough by Baard Kolstad) the best this year, I would love to see you react on this one
Hear, hear! You need some Baard in your life! (that's the drummer's name)
@@neon-rust one of the best out there he is another beast
Oh, you did mention his name already... :)
When a polyrhythm is looping it has a different voice every phrase (down beats may be up beats) and I feel when it's LIVE you can hear their intent better. Proper show live, can hear the depth of the guitars better, no distractions from the art. Best show I've ever been to by far.
It’s just how the drums and guitar are played in sync. Amazing.
As a drum teacher, i would have expected you to have commented at least once technically/musically on what he's doing.
Cool man
Exactly, I thought this is the point of the video, not just watching someone watching the video. Where is the added value to the content?
I think he was just blown away by it.
Yeah kinda click baity
There's not much to react to. Unrelenting 32nd note hertas on the feet being played as a polyrythem is extraordinarily technically impressive, Bleed is a hypnotic masterpiece. It's very very hard but there's not much to analyze, reaction channels are for fans who want their music to be legitimized by having a professional musician say "Wow these guys are tight."
It always blows my mind the fact that he looks so calm up on the arms but going completely insane down on the feet like HOW!? I can't even try to imitate it without getting tired 30 seconds after 🤣
He's a beast!
Closest I'll ever get to playing this on drums in the foreseeable future is if i drop my drumkit down a staircase
Ouch!
Fuck even being able to play up tempo techichal death metal doesnt grant its skill to (unless you use double strokes nonstop) this....this was a trek of its own.
For some reason I've been intrigued by "In Life is Death/In Death is Death" off Catch 33, but tbh, that whole album (one continuous song) is groundbreaking
It is supposed to be "In Death-Is Life"
The socks is an easy thing to explain.
It's comfortable.
It allows ease of mobility across the footboard to increase speed on the base drum. There are variations on the technique but the basic motion is to use the low side of the board for a first strike and to slide your foot up the board on the next hit using the better leverage to maintain strength of the strike. Rinse repeat.
Great info Hunter. Thanks!
3:50 "what is the right hand doing?" The secret is 8th notes lol. The right hand its quarters and 8ths pretty much the whole way through. And every meshuggah song is in 4/4 base with other time signatures over top but they always work in 4/4.
It’s nice to see an expert in drumming having nothing to say about an artist in their field. Says a lot about the performance
Almost every metal concert I've been to I stayed in the background just absorbing the music. Except for Slayer, always front row lol
I would LOVE to see you do the meshuggah song "CLOCKWORKS"
Meshuggah live is a lot of people trying to move their heads but failing to grasp the beat miserably.
That, and the absolute best light show you will ever see. He knows every part of every song as much as the musicians themselves.
There is a safe circle through the venue and a brutal circle front and center.
Nice Rory!
You hit the nail of the head really. I haven't really been as much into metal for the last 10 years as I was in my teens, but in my experience, metal heads are some of the kindest and most respectful people I know. Of course, there is always the odd one out, but that is also the case for any other genre fanatics.
People can shit on Metal music all they want, this is one of the most legendary songs of all time.
I love metal I’ve just never been able to get into this band. I like Death, Opeth, Cynic, some Morbid Angel, Megadeth, etc but a song like this just sounds so monotonous and grey that it’s boring to me to listen to even though I admire the musicianship greatly. There’s something about the machine feel to it that just kills my enjoyment of it and feels like it drags. The musicians are incredible though.
Mesuggah concerts blast from beginning to the end. Nothing less, nothing more. Adrenaline rush from start to finish.
Insane!
Yup a wall of sound pushing you into a void of epileptic weightlessness
That’s like 4/4 time over 6/8 time on the feet with a mixolydian mode overlay. This is nuts!
Please, watch Gavin Harrison - Anesthetize.
Thanks for the recommend!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums You will LOVE this
YES!
He has a cool double bass part, but this isn't the best song to see Gavin shine in, that would be something like Sound of Muzak playing that 7/4 over the 7/16 and making it 'dance-able' or Threatening War by Pineapple Thief to see ho creative his grooves are (and some killer fills).
@@TwoandaHater Gonna preface this with *this is just my opinion*: At least in my experience learning the two songs on drums, SoMz was a FAR easier and simpler song to learn. The groove is cool, but is mostly just Gavin playing a groove Steven already had programmed in a drum machine when Gavin got to the studio (Check out Gavin's Drumeo video on SoMz for that full story). Anesthetize is a far more original "Gavin" drum part in my opinion, and has far more licks and fills that are unique to his playing than SoMz does, even beyond the double bass polyrhythmic passage you're referring to.
I talked about this with someone i met from Belgium, this week. We both agreed that metal crowds at a concert are among the greatest and the coolest. You always see people picking up someone that falls on a pit, it's not unusual for someone to come to you and ask "hey, isn't this your shirt?" and stuff like that. Just because it's physical doesn't mean it's mindless. And a Meshuggah concert is a bit like trying to figure out how gravity combines with the other three fundamental forces while tumbling around in a washing machine.
That's an awesome description Bruno
I’ve been a metal head for over 20. The pits are intense but there is tons of love. Everyone is letting out all their pent up aggression from everyday life together but not on each other. Anyone that trips or falls down, there the crowd immediately opens a space around the person and picks them back up. Metal pits are therapy for most in it
As a dude who loves Bleed like I love my own children, and as a dude who has been playing drums for a long, long, time, I feel like people who consider Bleed Tomas's best work usually aren't drummers themselves. Undeniably, Tomas's footwork is legendary in this song, but it's mostly alot of memorizing where to place hertas over seven minutes. Clockwork is in my opinion a much more technically demanding piece.
Clockwork Is fantastic!!!!!!!!
Yea
Clockwork is INSANE!! You literally could set the atomic clock by his right hand in that song...TH is a beast!!💪
I've seen them live and they sound like in their albums. It's insane.
I hope to see them live one day
Totally agree
The essence of the Bleed groove is found in "The Herta" a hybrid rudiment pattern. It's one thing to do it with the hands but with feet is next level sick to hear done so masterfully in this tune.
Tomas is incredible. Check out Elliott Hoffman with CarBomb. One of the best.
Yo! I have done one on him. He’s incredible 🙌
Need to do more 🥁 👌
I listened to one CarBomb album. I was like "why is every song Bleed, how do they do that?"