EV’s Will Fail in 2024 Warns Manufacturers

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  • Stark WARNING that the Electric Vehicle market is in Jeopardy. Should they just keep building petrol engines like Mercedes?
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  • @patrickchubey3127
    @patrickchubey3127 2 місяці тому +28

    I absolutely resent governments using my tax dollars to help rich people buy a vehicle that I myself can't afford.

  • @waynewilkin3582
    @waynewilkin3582 3 місяці тому +51

    Something that needs a govenment subsidy to work is probably not a good financial decision

    • @purplesprigs
      @purplesprigs 2 місяці тому

      Look up "what is a public good in economics?" Got it now? Good...glad we had this little talk.

  • @simonh870
    @simonh870 3 місяці тому +32

    Strange how EV car list prices dropped when EV grants were reduced.

    • @gordon7470
      @gordon7470 3 місяці тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @MrTreegeek1978
      @MrTreegeek1978 3 місяці тому +4

      It’s the same strange that makes new houses that qualify for government grants for first time buyers more expensive!

    • @karmanline2005
      @karmanline2005 3 місяці тому

      Not really. As volumes rise and model replacements come through both parts sourcing and production become less expensive. Plus, Tesla have margin headroom (for the above reasons) and cut rrp to further boost demand.

    • @gordon7470
      @gordon7470 3 місяці тому +1

      @@karmanline2005
      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @annieluctor7524
      @annieluctor7524 2 місяці тому +3

      @@karmanline2005 And never mind all the existing Tesla owners whose cars are now worth EVen less!

  • @derekfleming3095
    @derekfleming3095 3 місяці тому +29

    Very factual video, the tree huggers will hate it 😂

  • @Calvi36
    @Calvi36 3 місяці тому +24

    I pick up my new car tomorrow, guess what, it's not an EV. I'll leave the EVangelists to swoon over their milk floats. New car is a Kia Sportage
    1.6T GDi ISG GT-Line 5dr, petrol all the way for me as I do not do many miles. I also still have a 2006 Peugeot 407 SW Executive 2.0Hdi that I use for longer runs as it gives over 60mpg. An EV would never work for me as I have no way to charge it at home and why should I pay 10 to 15 times the cost for electricity at public chargers. An old thought comes to mind, "Behind every scheme there is a schemer"!

    • @stevenvater8720
      @stevenvater8720 2 місяці тому +1

      Great choice of car, my daughter had one as a hire car and for the price it's unbeatable

    • @ciaranburke3243
      @ciaranburke3243 2 місяці тому +1

      Nice, love you car choices the 407 is a lovely thing, good luck with the new one I think you will be fine 👍

  • @jeffmcarthur1963
    @jeffmcarthur1963 2 місяці тому +15

    Love these factual, no nonsense, straight to the point videos.
    No way on earth would i buy an EV at this moment in time due to the fact that residuals are shockingly poor and any incentives to buy one in the first place have all but gone.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 місяці тому

      the main reason NOT to buy EV is bc- You're buying in to a Globalist Agenda - designed to support the eradication of private vehicle ownership - ask KlauseSchwarb and his Unelected and Unregulated cronies in Geneva

  • @the1beard
    @the1beard 3 місяці тому +15

    Even Westminster in London has removed the parking discounts .. IT IS OVER for EV's dead and done

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 місяці тому +2

      removed them??????????? 80p for four hours to £18 per four hours... AND this increase was based on 'Whole Life' carbon assessment - wait until that gets factored in to Pay per Mile road tax

    • @the1beard
      @the1beard 2 місяці тому

      @@CosmicSeeker69
      Carrots then Sticks
      They think we're all as stupid as they are

    • @renaultopelbmw
      @renaultopelbmw 2 місяці тому

      EVs were never meant for normal people. Its for the haves, and subscription rides, petrol cars will be banned from city centres and with coming carbon taxes you wont afford to use them. Public transport for you or use a bike...

  • @greathey1234
    @greathey1234 3 місяці тому +24

    No EV for me thank you very much. I rather keep my ancient V8 Vantage than pay for a new battery every 5 years

  • @nottmfunguy
    @nottmfunguy 2 місяці тому +8

    I think its not being anti-ev raising the concerns about the dropping sale figures, over inflated purchase prices and depreciation. It is not the fault of the average car driver who does not want to adopt to the EV way. The fault lays with governments making it all a mandate to go EV when to be honest EV's were only ever going to play a small part of vehicles on the road. Governments and greedy car makers are the ones that have killed the EV market, with lies, substandard cars and their own greed.

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 місяці тому

      Bro - it's NOT the governments - I repeat - It's NOT the governments

  • @arnoldmonk6381
    @arnoldmonk6381 3 місяці тому +9

    I will only ever buy a 2nd hand car, maximum circa £10k. Can’t see that is ever going to buy me a realistically useable EV n the future. My diesel Golf is on 130k miles and should be good for another 50k before I need to look again. If you look around there are thousands of motorists like me.
    I’d be vey surprised if the government do anything for EVs in the budget as their target looks like tax cuts rather than anything else, the Cons are not interested in the environment anyway.

  • @paulsuddes1144
    @paulsuddes1144 3 місяці тому +11

    Too many people were prepared to pay ridiculous prices for ev,s. This drove up prices of ALL cars. Now the market is slowly realising we are being ripped off. EVs simply are not worth the extra expense.

    • @richardweyland116
      @richardweyland116 2 місяці тому +3

      What drove up prices on all cars is having to off set the costs to make EV's mandated by clowns who threatened to fine them if they didn't.

  • @stevewilson8467
    @stevewilson8467 2 місяці тому +3

    When someone says government subsidies and car manufacturers in the same sentence, all I think of is DeLorean..

  • @rosswootton8825
    @rosswootton8825 2 місяці тому +3

    The general public will not embrace EVs until they are every bit as affordable and practical as ice vehicles and goodness knows when that’s going to be. True car enthusiasts will never embrace them.

    • @craiglavelle5135
      @craiglavelle5135 2 місяці тому

      Tesla model 3 start at £39000. BMW 3 series start at £39000 after 2 years both are worth around £25000

    • @remoanersrknts6736
      @remoanersrknts6736 2 місяці тому

      ​@@craiglavelle5135
      .
      Tell that to Corsa drivers. 😂
      List price £32,445 |
      36k/3yr resale value £9925 |
      Price drop £22,520 | Retained value 30.6%

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter 2 місяці тому

      Lithium batteries are not the answer, extremely carbon expensive to manufacture, mediocre energy storage and slow to charge. Add on EV's are horrifically expensive to repair and they just look worse as time goes on.

  • @dannypatrick9361
    @dannypatrick9361 3 місяці тому +8

    Love these news vids! Keep em coming!

    • @ScottishCarClan
      @ScottishCarClan  3 місяці тому +2

      Cheers buddy 👍🏼 good to have you watching

  • @oggie1967
    @oggie1967 3 місяці тому +5

    Nah! Think I’ll pass! It’s too early, the cars, infrastructure & let’s face it the used marketplace are years away from being able to replace internal combustion!
    I’m in fact doing my bit for the planet by investing my money in someone else’s rubbish!
    Well, it’s a one owner from new,2005, Aston Martin DB9.
    It will no doubt need repairs, servicing, spare parts, which is supporting a myriad of specialist cottage industries whilst recycling someone’s cast offs.
    Good for the planet, bloody good for me!
    7 days and counting! Bring it on. 👍👏👏👏😁❤️

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 місяці тому +1

      what mileage on that pls???

    • @oggie1967
      @oggie1967 2 місяці тому

      @@CosmicSeeker69 72000 miles but with a full Aston service history!👍

  • @user-ut6vb5yi5p
    @user-ut6vb5yi5p 2 місяці тому +1

    I totally agree with your take on EV’s for so many reasons the project just will not suit so many people. Personally I can’t wait for the whole project to come crashing down.

  • @plank770
    @plank770 3 місяці тому +7

    I live close enough to work to walk so my car S3 has become a weekend car and pleasure driving so an EV is no use to me. The only car I would now consider due to low annual mileage would be a V8! Good channel this,love the car reviews 👌

    • @ScottishCarClan
      @ScottishCarClan  3 місяці тому +4

      Thanks buddy! Appreciate it… and go buy that V8 😁 you only live once!

    • @davidwright1752
      @davidwright1752 2 місяці тому +2

      The V8 second hand low mileage. Is actually cheaper then even buying a new diesel. I do about 7k per year so a nice Lexus 430 would be cheap alternative.

  • @steviefn2typer
    @steviefn2typer 3 місяці тому +8

    Hit the nail on the head when you said people fell for it, it makes no sense at all for me to buy an electric car, I do over 1000miles a month and get 65-70mpg from my Honda civic idtec, throw in free tax and it’s hard to beat. The quicker they scrap the whole electric car craze the better

    • @user-se6ue2pv7p
      @user-se6ue2pv7p 2 місяці тому

      Just because it does not work for you does not qualify you to to state it won't work for anyone. I have saved $5000 in 14 months from not running my Isuzu diesel 4x4. Everyone who has never owned an EV seems to think they know it all...

    • @steviefn2typer
      @steviefn2typer 2 місяці тому

      @@user-se6ue2pv7p you were misled and fell for it😂 stop trying to defend yourself, the future isn’t electric

    • @jamesm90
      @jamesm90 2 місяці тому

      ​@@user-se6ue2pv7punfortunately you've lost £10k in depreciation in that time so you're still down on the deal.

    • @eastwood978
      @eastwood978 2 місяці тому

      @@steviefn2typer1000 miles a month isn't much I know Uber drivers who do 3 times that in an EV and get equivalent of 150 mpg which is money in their pocket they charge at night at 7p a KW/hr.

    • @user-se6ue2pv7p
      @user-se6ue2pv7p 2 місяці тому

      Misled? As a business vehicle my EV is a tax deduction I've saved $5000 in 14 months, you , like every other expert on here know nothing@@steviefn2typer

  • @graemejones218
    @graemejones218 2 місяці тому

    A great channel sir. Very clear & concise, & always up to date. Subscribed.

  • @andrewdalziel4006
    @andrewdalziel4006 2 місяці тому

    It is hard to understand how this has got so far. There are so many issues with EV's from the generation of the electricity in the first place, the distribution of it, the number of chargers, the range of the cars, the costs, the second hand values and the major safety issues.

  • @ianelliott229
    @ianelliott229 3 місяці тому +2

    As residuals plummet, I suspect some finance companies will be in trouble. EVs as they are and the charging infrastructure meant I never considered it a viable prospect

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 місяці тому +2

      a thought that I'd had. Shall we call it 'Hertz syndrome' ?

  • @24bellers20
    @24bellers20 3 місяці тому +4

    I got rid of my hybrid Evoque for these reasons and bought a Tiguan 1.5. They can keep ev cars.

  • @jtrev2460
    @jtrev2460 2 місяці тому

    The government incentivised a market which wasn’t really there. Just should have let EV market grow organically, let market forces work it out.

  • @stevenvater8720
    @stevenvater8720 2 місяці тому

    Great blog as usual

  • @andrewcraynor1252
    @andrewcraynor1252 3 місяці тому +3

    Remember folks do your own research, these guys don’t mention how a few years ago the big manufacturers were falsifying mpg claims. They don’t talk about the diesel scandal, what about fuel prices at motorway service stations (total rip off). Don’t take these guys words for it f do o your own research!!!

    • @derekfleming3095
      @derekfleming3095 3 місяці тому +3

      If you do your own research, you come to the same conclusion
      EV’s are for the gullible unless it’s a business car or lease car
      You’d have to be bonkers to use your own money

    • @andrewcraynor1252
      @andrewcraynor1252 3 місяці тому

      @@derekfleming3095 remember to add in your opinion!!

    • @ScottishCarClan
      @ScottishCarClan  3 місяці тому +2

      I do agree, absolutely do your own research but I do try very hard to keep to the facts. Falsified MPG claims and the diesel scandal, whilst unscrupulous didn't have massive economical effects on the petrol/diesel market as a whole. Fitting a battery however, more depreciation, more depreciation, more repair cost... it goes on and on.

    • @derekfleming3095
      @derekfleming3095 3 місяці тому

      @@andrewcraynor1252 I just have to look at one of my neighbours to form an opinion. Bought a Porsche EV (can’t remember the model) 2 years ago for just shy of 120k, todays value he tells me is around 42k
      He has now purchased a diesel car and the Porsche is in his garage hoping for prices to rise

    • @DwaynePipes
      @DwaynePipes 3 місяці тому

      What colour is it? ​@@derekfleming3095

  • @ReX1X
    @ReX1X 2 місяці тому +1

    I just sold my 3 series diesel which I put over 90k on it. Changed jobs and bought a 4 series petrol. I’m now only commuting 6 miles per day but still won’t go to electric

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter 2 місяці тому +1

      6 miles that's a freaken easy commute on an e-bike, and get a bit of exercise if you want.

  • @ogasi1798
    @ogasi1798 2 місяці тому +1

    i know, let's use public money to fund the sales of things the public don't want - said no tax payer ever

  • @stevedalby6058
    @stevedalby6058 2 місяці тому +1

    A few years ago I purchased a 18 month old BMW 3 Series M sport. At a bargain price of £18,000 new price over £36,000. So all new cars fall dramatically in the first few years. So nothing new here

    • @CosmicSeeker69
      @CosmicSeeker69 2 місяці тому

      and the mileage at purchase was?

    • @colinchapman8615
      @colinchapman8615 2 місяці тому +1

      Most BMW’s were available at massive discounts a few years ago, so the retail price is pretty irrelevant. c20% wasn’t unusual - I bought many, kept them a year/30k miles or so and sold them on for more or less what I paid new, occasionally to dealers. Those days are long gone unfortunately.

  • @CarsofGlasgow
    @CarsofGlasgow 3 місяці тому +3

    Well said

  • @iggysfriend4431
    @iggysfriend4431 3 місяці тому +1

    The market is speaking, just like it has on so many other things.

  • @motleydude73
    @motleydude73 2 місяці тому

    Sales are down 80% here in NZ once the incentives for rich people were removed in December. 😂

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter 2 місяці тому +1

      I could easily buy one here in NZ and I am older but middle class. My main concern is it takes around 10 years to break even on carbon emissions over buying ice car due to the vast amounts of exotic material to manufacture the huge battery. I am pretty dam sure the decision to ride an E-Bike to work with a tiny battery in comparison does a crap ton more to help climate change. The recent addition of road user charges for EV's have also completely eliminated any possibility of me reversing that decision :P

    • @motleydude73
      @motleydude73 2 місяці тому

      @@Battleneter Our carbon emissions are nothing anyway. Not even close to 1% on a global scale. 'Doing our bit' won't change anything. So don't stress too much about it. NZ Govt is good at trying to make people feel guilty but carry on with the status quo I say. My next car might be a V8 😅

  • @trevorwilson2966
    @trevorwilson2966 2 місяці тому

    Im in Australia and just brought a new Mazda Bt50 single cab work ute with 3.0 litre deisel .Its great loads of torque and takes about 2 mins to recharge at the servo.

  • @feelsgoodman245
    @feelsgoodman245 2 місяці тому

    Fighting the good fight!

  • @nicholasmason2011
    @nicholasmason2011 2 місяці тому +3

    Great summary, and Toyota's a commin with they're heavy investment in hydrogen and how good were they at developing hybrid engines.

    • @user-se6ue2pv7p
      @user-se6ue2pv7p 2 місяці тому +1

      Really? Both our Prius hybrid batteries failed prematurely at 200K kms. Any money we saved went back to Toyota towards replacement batteries. I won't be buying a new Toyota any time soon.

  • @entity_dragons2013
    @entity_dragons2013 2 місяці тому

    Yeah i got absolutely dry bummed by Cupra, i have a Cupra Born and will definitely be getting rid and going back to petrol

  • @dudeman8323
    @dudeman8323 2 місяці тому

    Funny, in January, something something 14.7% something... it's ironically stoichiometric...

  • @anthonybrown4874
    @anthonybrown4874 2 місяці тому

    If there was a level playing field in terms of BIK tax and Salary sacrifice schemes you have to wonder how the sales would stack up, though the second hand market usually decides the true value of a car.
    Best subsidy they could do for most people is free home chargersas it would boost sed demand and stimulate marked share with decent residuals.

  • @isbastardbunny
    @isbastardbunny 2 місяці тому

    You would have to be mad to pay out for an ev now . The establishment & MSM will keep flogging this dead green horse. We all know that ev's are not green & are more of a dangers than green.

  • @goansunborn
    @goansunborn 2 місяці тому +1

    I live in Norway. The net zero ideology here is insane. Reality is starting to kick in with all of these forced agendas which i'm hoping will soon come to an end.

    • @motleydude73
      @motleydude73 2 місяці тому +1

      Ahhh Norway. The go-to country for EVangelists when they preach their tired rhetoric. While forgetting to mention the only reason it has high EV uptake is because of ridIculous tax breaks and incentives and blatant favouritism shown to owners by a deluded govt. All it has done is stifled the PT system as an alternative mode of transport and created inequality in a country supposedly proud of it's egalitarian social policies.

    • @goansunborn
      @goansunborn 2 місяці тому

      @@motleydude73 100%

  • @ingopaul67
    @ingopaul67 3 місяці тому +6

    Now all the EVangelists have bought one nobody else wants the things. I can see used modern ICE cars going up in value as the supply of new ICE cars is restricted over the next few years.

    • @HappyBagger
      @HappyBagger 2 місяці тому +1

      Either the quotas will change, or as you say second hand ICE cars will rise. I have 2 diesels, a 2015 done 75l and a 2011 done 170k, keeping both even though the latter is costing a bit in repairs now. I don't see them depreciating any more.
      I also hink they'll restrict new ICE cars to leases that way they can "sell" to the customer what the customer wants without it being a "sale", so keeping the percentage of EV "sales" higher.

  • @Jay_Speed
    @Jay_Speed 2 місяці тому

    I will not buy that rubbish never. My car is 33 years and my van 19. Both still in very good order, I do my maintenance myself, so it's not much money every year.

  • @davidabbott3927
    @davidabbott3927 2 місяці тому

    When do consumers buy second or third hand batteries. Utter madness from our useless ,spineless authorities

  • @bassmana2z686
    @bassmana2z686 2 місяці тому

    Thanks for the great content. Sub'd.🚙🙂

  • @phatmeow7764
    @phatmeow7764 2 місяці тому

    what could they do if they really wanted to reduce waste/carbon footprint is give grants/rebates if one took a vintage/older ICE vehicle and installed a Euro 6 petrol/diesel engine?

  • @mrlionrocks
    @mrlionrocks 3 місяці тому +3

    Ev cars are the next VHS

    • @arnoldmonk6381
      @arnoldmonk6381 3 місяці тому +4

      Think you mean Betamax, vhs was very successful for years.

    • @ochayethegnu2915
      @ochayethegnu2915 3 місяці тому +2

      VHS dominated home video for two decades. It was absolutely the default choice and just about every home had one…

    • @jlrguy2702
      @jlrguy2702 3 місяці тому

      Things move faster now, I think he’s actually got a point and right saying VHS not Betamax. How many of us use VHS or anything now? A bit like DVD’s hey. If you look at history, VHS had quite a life span competing against Betamax, but then couldn’t compete with DVD, then blue ray, then before you know it they were all obsolete, we all stream everything now. If you think back to VHS now you think omg. EVs ain’t new, we had electric milk floats 50 years ago. Just like solar panels aren’t free, yet people boast about running their EV’s for free. I could use used vegetable oil for fuel in my diesel for ever, but even that’s not free.

  • @johnnycarruthers9737
    @johnnycarruthers9737 3 місяці тому +1

    only going electric once they make one that can fart through all its gears

  • @johnoleary169
    @johnoleary169 2 місяці тому

    Government grants no road tax off peak electricity free parking the rich get richer

  • @Battleneter
    @Battleneter 2 місяці тому

    Lithium batteries were never the answer, it take around 10 years before you break even on carbon emissions over a standard car due to the huge amounts of exotic materials used in the battery manufacturing, that's not a lot better than doing nothing. Want to REALLY help, use public transport or ride a bike, even an e-bike (tiny batteries in comparison).

    • @markjackson8035
      @markjackson8035 2 місяці тому

      Don't disagree with you on the lithium technology to date, but that is changing - as mentioned below, check out what a consultant battery electrochemist has to say on ua-cam.com/video/lVI2nVDKL-4/v-deo.html
      As far as public transport goes, anywhere outside of a major town or city, it is either woefully unreliable or non existent, not to mention massively more expensive than driving an EV.
      And bikes, with or without an electric motor, are a real struggle for a family of 4 with a dog.

  • @lrg3834
    @lrg3834 2 місяці тому +1

    What the politicians are too afraid to tell the public…
    1. Oil is finite.
    2. The era of easy, cheap oil is upon us.
    3. Our oil-based modern industrial societies are not sustainable, especially in light of insane industrial growth in Asia.
    4. You will always need oil and gas for asphalt, farming and not less than 2,000 critical chemicals and materials, which account for not less than 23% of all oil and gas production. Of course, this is assuming you can find a viable substitute for transport liquid fuels.
    5. Most of the world still lives in extreme poverty. Furthermore, there is no hope of reversing this.
    6. Lastly, the best way to fix our energy and resource constraints is to reduce global consumption drastically (read between the lines what this really means; I can’t tell you literally otherwise my comment will be censored).
    Final thought to all of you out there. Stop believing in fairy tales.

  • @GrrMeister
    @GrrMeister 2 місяці тому

    *But maybe by 2100 Battery Technology will have advanced so much that you will have a Range of 1000 Miles + and you will be able to get home with a bit of typo to **_Spare_** Sorry Harry !*

    • @markjackson8035
      @markjackson8035 2 місяці тому

      To quote the great Kate Nash;
      "Yeah, intelligent input darlin'
      Why don't you just have another beer then?"

  • @fazer134
    @fazer134 2 місяці тому

    Maybe in 200 years.

  • @paulcoyle9844
    @paulcoyle9844 3 місяці тому

    Fiat can't even cope with the normal demand to make a reliable car 😂😂😂

  • @Theurgicnick
    @Theurgicnick 2 місяці тому

    As a petrol head from a young age I’m a little on the fence about EV’s. Take the replacement battery cost in EV’s. How many complete engine rebuilds could you fork out for and still be quids in. The depreciation and insurance costs are just scary. All at a time when costs are rising for motorists anyway. I like you don’t agree with incentives at all as it’s simply kicking the can down the road like you mentioned in your video. Plus if your like me and have no driveway at your house and have to rely on public charging you could be spending £50 - 60 for circa 200 miles. I can drive my car HARD and still get more than that out of a tank plus it costs me the same to fill up my tank so where is the logic? If I was to swap to a new electric vehicle I would most certainly be a lot worse of financially. No question.

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter 2 місяці тому

      Additionally if your considering one to help climate change don't, takes around 10 years to break even on carbon emissions over buying a standard car due to the huge battery manufacturing.

  • @slk-vf5jb
    @slk-vf5jb 2 місяці тому

    I'll keep my 4.0 v6 mercedes sl thanks.

  • @ogriboy
    @ogriboy 2 місяці тому +3

    Odd that since the growth remains exponential your facts are incorrect regarding so many topics. The fuel duty discount for example was notified over 2 years ago as coming online by 2025 t £180/year we all understand you can't continue with that as the levels of vehicles INCREASE. The Hertz issue was not due to cost it was because ICE idiots kept crashing them they are still happy with the policy overall for continued use. Another vid covered in oily fingerprints. But thanks for the humour keeps me laughing.

    • @peteygti1
      @peteygti1 2 місяці тому

      ​@@puppyone2020incorrect. Again, scottish car clan services clicks instead of facts and fans the flames of the anti ev brigade who want them to fail at all costs .... shame that isn't actually happening.

    • @peteygti1
      @peteygti1 2 місяці тому

      indeed, you have to question why he hasn't put the source of his info and those headlines in his video description - oh yes cos its taken out of context and doesn't fit his narrative.

    • @PCNxx
      @PCNxx 2 місяці тому +1

      You are not fully correct regarding Hertz. Hertz reported they also expect about $245 million in charges related to depreciation expenses from the EV sale in the fourth quarter of 2023. With EV depreciation now being in a very bad state of flux Hertz have a massive financial hole in their business plan which is unsustainable.

    • @peteygti1
      @peteygti1 2 місяці тому

      @@PCNxx depreciation doesn't affect rental companies like you think it does - they sell them off super cheap anyway cos of high miles. your comment has oily fingerprints too, unless you can provide a source to back that up.

    • @ogriboy
      @ogriboy 2 місяці тому

      @@PCNxx maybe so but it's not an anti EV stance as suggested and the policy remains for future use as far as I am aware.

  • @AnthonyMcGowan
    @AnthonyMcGowan 3 місяці тому +6

    I can fill my tank with petrol, then not drive my car for a week and I still have the same full tank. if I fully charge an EV a week later it is possible that most of the charge will be lost. I dont drive every day, but it is essential that I have my car available. if the technology is so flawed that people wont purchase them then its a dead end and I dont want taxes used to subsidise them. what happened to let the market forces decide ?

    • @ScottishCarClan
      @ScottishCarClan  3 місяці тому +4

      Great comment… If the market forces had been allowed to dictate the course I’m not sure ev’s would have made it past the first few years.
      You can also refill that petrol tank in minutes not hours…

    • @DwaynePipes
      @DwaynePipes 3 місяці тому

      Where do you get the information that your battery would be mostly depleted after one week?
      I'm not an EV owner and that got me looking for that data.
      Couldn't find it.
      Can you help?

    • @ochayethegnu2915
      @ochayethegnu2915 3 місяці тому +2

      You think most of the charge will just evaporate in a week? Nah. BEVs have their issues, but let’s not just make stuff up.

    • @fractalofgod6324
      @fractalofgod6324 2 місяці тому +2

      Lol got to love the anti electric bridge making shit up.

  • @rosspassmore8466
    @rosspassmore8466 2 місяці тому

    Nio might be the future,,,as i has battery change,,,,,,

    • @HappyBagger
      @HappyBagger 2 місяці тому +1

      Nice. Get your empty but ok battery replaced with one that's been charged but degraded and is faulty.
      I saw some video on a machine like a mechanic's ramp that did this swap function and thought, yes, another solution to solve a problem caused by trying to solve a different problem that doesn't exist.

  • @kommentato1328
    @kommentato1328 2 місяці тому

    EVs will be graet once cheap and safe (in all respects) and enduring batteries are available.

  • @rainywhite4845
    @rainywhite4845 2 місяці тому

    When failed compete with Chinese EV, suddenly everything is irrelevant

  • @ciaranburke3243
    @ciaranburke3243 2 місяці тому

    Bye bye electric cars don't forget to shut the door behind you could see this happening years ago 😂

  • @colinaldridge259
    @colinaldridge259 2 місяці тому

    EVs are not green! So why are governments pushing them down driver's throats? Beats me. They are also boring, boring boring.

  • @remoanersrknts6736
    @remoanersrknts6736 2 місяці тому

    .
    *Vauxhall Corsa*
    List price £32,445
    36k/3yr resale value £9925
    Price drop £22,520
    Retained value 30.6%
    Need I say more?

    • @markjackson8035
      @markjackson8035 2 місяці тому

      Guess you're referring to an e-Corsa? In which case;
      Nissan Qashqai Acenta Premium (1.3 Dig-T petrol)
      List price £32,050
      36k/3yr resale value £9880
      Price drop £22,170
      Retained value 30.8%
      From (bitter) personal experience.
      Need I say more?

  • @lokmanmerican6889
    @lokmanmerican6889 2 місяці тому

    Apparently current EV batteries are good for up to 900,000 km. Comments anyone?

  • @ghostridertom
    @ghostridertom 2 місяці тому

    I am buying an Fiat EV... Naaah, I have Alfa Romeo QV on the way 🙂

  • @ajh5552
    @ajh5552 2 місяці тому

    EV's only really work for companies. The tax incentives are the only real reason companies are getting EV's in their fleets. The private buyers who have bought them have been hoodwinked and thought that was their only option because Mr salesman told them so and they fell for the sales pitch as salesmen are pressuring buyers to buy EV's as they have targets to meet which it now seems that they are failing miserably. Combustion engine vehicles are so clean now i really do not think they are damaging the environment at all. People are not dropping dead by the side of the road, vegetation trees flowers you name it are not dying off at the side of busy roads. Animals and wildlife are not dropping dead in our fields at the side of a busy road and you only have to look up and you see all that space of fesh lovely air above our heads. This is all just another way of extracting more tax out of us motorists so that the government has more income to waste on Evolution. Because this is what it is. Evolution. It has been going on forever and it will continue to go on long after we pass.

  • @starlord8973
    @starlord8973 2 місяці тому

    EV have NO service COSTS CHEAPER CHARGING than PETROL EV s Battery's Last at Least 1 Million Miles

  • @bigpete111100
    @bigpete111100 2 місяці тому

    EVs are getting cheaper, faster to charge, further range ever year
    Nah they're here to stay

    • @remoanersrknts6736
      @remoanersrknts6736 2 місяці тому +1

      Of course they are! That's why Hertz dumped 20,000 of the things! 😂

    • @Battleneter
      @Battleneter 2 місяці тому

      Lithium batteries suck due to the carbon cost to manufacture, slow charge time, mediocre energy storage to weight. If a much better battery technology was being mass produced tomorrow, then sure I would agree.

  • @craiglavelle5135
    @craiglavelle5135 2 місяці тому

    😂 wake up man EVs are the future deal with it

    • @HappyBagger
      @HappyBagger 2 місяці тому +1

      In the same way a firefighter will become a job for life with superb pay and conditions 😜

    • @craiglavelle5135
      @craiglavelle5135 2 місяці тому +1

      @@HappyBagger mate I have driven an EV for 7 years no issues apart from brakes and the usual wear and tear shit.just saying for majority of people who drive less than 200 miles a week EV is a no brainer.my work let's me charge for free.just think about it

    • @robertgreen9614
      @robertgreen9614 2 місяці тому

      ​​@@craiglavelle5135Can't speak for the UK, but as an example in Australia, when you factor in the difference in purchase price, servicing costs and insurance costs between an MGZS EV and an MGZS petrol (same base car, can't get any fairer than that). At our present fuel prices you can drive just over 200,000 kms on the dollars saved by going petrol. That's 124,000 miles, at 200 miles per week it will take over 11 years for the EV to be in front financially. That's even with free charging, which 99.9% of people don't have access to.
      Think about it.

    • @eastwood978
      @eastwood978 2 місяці тому

      @@robertgreen9614 It looks like you've been reading that outdated Cars Guide from 2022.

    • @kralg
      @kralg 2 місяці тому

      @avelle5135 Are you sure that it is for _free_? Aren't you expected to work better, be more loyal or give up some of your expectations for that favor? Nothing is for free.

  • @darren100880
    @darren100880 2 місяці тому

    An MG4 cost the same as a petrol ford focus, its a similar size has lower maintenance costs and much lower running costs, i don't get the argument.

    • @robertgreen9614
      @robertgreen9614 2 місяці тому +1

      Why don't you compare the MG4 with the similarly sized (slightly bigger actually) petrol MGZS from the same manufacturer? Oh wait, is it because a petrol MGZS is £1000s cheaper to buy? A quick look at dealer servicing costs shows you will save £360 over 3 years with the MG4 compared to a 1.5L MGZS petrol. However insurance costs appear to be such that your 3 year £360 maintenance "savings" is going to get gobbled up in the MG4's first year's insurance premium, compared to the ZS petrol. Of course there is always some Muppet that claims they insure their EV for 50p per annum, but the insurance statistics indicate otherwise. Running costs are only cheaper if you can charge at home. So for a great percentage people, choosing the right model ICE car over an EV is a win, win, financially.
      This is about the time in a conversation where the EV pundit starts talking about how "fast" their car is, because they have nothing else left.😭

    • @darren100880
      @darren100880 2 місяці тому

      That just shows MG make affordable cars and other legacy auto makers are ripping us off, My ev is £97 per year more expensive to insure vs my 1.2l ford fiesta which i easily save in fuel costs, £5 per to fill the battery at home while i sleep and when its time to swap this car ill be getting another EV. i can agree EV's are not for everyone but don't knock em til you've trying one.

    • @markjackson8035
      @markjackson8035 2 місяці тому

      @robertgreen9614 But Robbie, the vast majority of cars, EVs included, are not bought outright. They are leased or on a PCP deal.
      Mine (yep, an EV) costs about the same to lease per month as an equivalent ICE car, costs about £200 less to service over 3 years, is £0 rated for road tax (until next year when I hand it back) and saves me £150 net per month in fuel costs.
      So by my calculations I'm around £6000 better off than I would be doing the same thing for 3 years in an ICE vehicle.
      And mine does 0 to 60mph in 7 seconds, so I don't talk about that...

    • @robertgreen9614
      @robertgreen9614 2 місяці тому

      @@markjackson8035 All that Marky Mark, yet you didn't explain why you decided to compare the MG4 SUV with a similarly sized/priced Ford ICE hatchback, and not the similarly sized and much cheaper MGZS ICE SUV? I guess it's hard to make a point on the purchase price when you don't have one???
      The majority of EVs sold in AUS are on company leases because my tax money is funding all the perks. Most private individuals here actually still buy their cars and EVs simply don't stack up financially to anyone with 1/2 a brain. The only reason left to buy one it to feel like the big man when leaving the traffic lights.

    • @remoanersrknts6736
      @remoanersrknts6736 2 місяці тому

      Vauxhall Corsa.
      List price £32,445
      36k/3yr resale value £9925
      Price drop £22,520
      Retained value 30.6%

  • @karmanline2005
    @karmanline2005 3 місяці тому +1

    You raise a few valid points and many that are not. In the long term BEVs will prevail, though the battery tech has not matured and the current generation will go the way of carburettors! It is an easy job to replace the batteries in most BEVs and unit costs are falling rapidly. Talk to people in the industry before you publish.

    • @ScottishCarClan
      @ScottishCarClan  2 місяці тому +4

      It’s fine to say the technology WILL mature and prices WILL fall but no one has a crystal ball and I think investing heavily into something which is not yet where it needs to be is foolish.
      So far costs are up, charging is up, insurance is up, repairs are up and consumers are scared of massive battery replacement costs. We need to look at the here and now, not the idealistic “one day”. Thanks for the comment, it’s great to hear different opinions.

    • @paulnewman9275
      @paulnewman9275 2 місяці тому

      Rubbish ,EV batteries are so expensive, about £24k for a Tesla battery and the labour to change one out is huge ,no one will spend that on say a 8-10 year old car. Even new ones are being written off daily if the battery is damaged as too expensive to replace - and try getting a new battery from Tesla - 99% impossible.Current battery tech makes EV's a minority choice , maybe 10-20 years that will change ,until then forget it.

  • @SuperBartet
    @SuperBartet 2 місяці тому +1

    1. Child battery mineral labour
    2. Range anxiety
    3. Risk of garage fires
    4. Paying 20k more than a
    comparable vehicle
    5. every time you fuel up an EV, the fuel tank gets smaller and smaller. Battery degeneration.
    6. Poor resale value
    7. Reduced performance in
    cold, highway.
    8. Higher repair costs
    9. Awful charging network
    experiences in the weather
    without restrooms
    10. Higher insurance rates
    11. Replacing tires more
    frequently. Michelin states that tires wear out 20% faster on an EV, and could be as high as 50% faster! EV tires made for EV's, cost 20 to 30% more, than regular tires for ice cars. As EV tires wear out, they leave behind more tiny particles of rubber than normal ice cars. This causes more pollution.
    12. Death by autopilot
    13. $25k - $35k battery
    14. Low km range per tank of energy.
    15. must wait in-line 1-2 hrs.
    to charge.
    16. Then wait more time to charge, while charging.
    17. Spontaneous combustion, with no way to put out the fire storm.
    18. If they catch fire in a tunnel, many people will die.
    19. People without a pro charger system or a parking spot at their house, will run an extension cord to the road, which is dangerous and could lead to people tampering with your charging setup (super slow charging at the road)
    20. If you're in California, you won't be able to charge your car past 4pm because of a shortage of electricity supply on the cheesy grid.
    21. It is not actually "green". The pollution is made at the power station, and during the manufacturing process, not the car.
    In advance of the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in 2021, Volvo released figures claiming that greenhouse gas emissions during production of an electric car are nearly 70% higher than when manufacturing a petrol one.
    22. Only 5% of used junk batteries get recycled, the rest go directly into the bin. It's cheaper to mine for new minerals.
    23. China actually does 70% of all the refining of the minerals and production of the batteries.
    24. Minerals are becoming more and more scarce, and the cost will only go up, not down.
    25. Some countries where they mine for lithium, actually use a very big boat load of fresh water to only produce a ton of lithium, so they are afraid of running out of water. It takes over 2 million litres of fresh clean water to produce 1 ton of lithium.
    26. EV cars will soon not be able to drive in tunnels or be able to park in underground parking garage and probably will eventually void your house insurance if you park it in your personal garage....
    27. You can't charge your battery at super stations when it is bitter cold out.
    28. If a fire truck comes to put out an EV fire, all the chemicals go directly into the sewer system, poisoning everything. They need tons of water to slow down the burn. They can't put them out. They are only trying to prevent over things near by from catching fire.
    29. Ok, there is 2 good things; regenerative braking, which charges the battery while you are slowing down on the highway, which saves your brakes from much wear.
    30. Loss of fuel tax revenue, so now the roads will only get worse, not better.
    31. in Dublin, huge generators are being used to charge EV buses, due to electrical grid strain. buses in Athlone also cannot be put on charge until midnight, for the same reason. Bus Éireann is saying that they can't charge their buses until 11pm for the same reason, and to avail of a lower tariff.
    32. Not everyone on earth even has electricity to charge their cars. What are they supposed to do in 2035? It's easy to get a bucket of fuel to power up a regular car.
    33. VCE, or "vapour cloud explosion" is very bad. If any battery, typically anything larger than an E-scooter battery, and especially only "half" charged. If a problem occurs in the cells, it might not catch on fire right away. Instead, a cloud appears, and then may be ignited a short period afterwards. There are 2 different types of vapour clouds that appear; heavier and lighter than air, which form will be dominate, can not be predicted yet. This produces a boom.
    34. For EV transport trucks, they aren't allowed to carry the same payload as a diesel truck, because of the massive weight of the battery. The owner of the EV truck therefore loses potential profit, every day. They also lose more profit for the waiting times for charging that EV truck. The driver will get paid to charge the truck, which in turn forces the owner of the truck to lose more money.
    35. EV cars are more likely to be written off, if they experience a minor collision. After the collision, something could have upset the structural integrity of the battery.
    36. EV cars lie to you. If you are bold enough to go out on a decent road trip and its 210 miles, one way, and your EV tells you that your battery will last you 223 miles, there had better be no hills, or excessively cold out.... You'll probably get stranded, trying to get to the charger, at the end of the trip. EV's have left many families stranded already.
    37. EV's and their batteries, will soon need their very own "passport". With all info about them when born, and current info about them (power output, resistance, mineral composition, etc.)
    38. Thieves stealing charging cables, will soon make it impossible to "fuel" an EV car. They take a long time to replace the cables, just to have them cut again for scrape money.
    39. Cars were typically being made lighter and lighter using aluminium and or fibreglass and or carbon fibre, to reduce emissions and pollution. EV's are only getting heavier and heavier, causing more pollution than ever. Remember, an EV's pollution is made at the power station and the dump, not at the actual EV, except for the tire particles as mentioned above.
    40. More on spontaneous combustion of the battery. What if you had 3 kids strapped into car seats, in the back seat ,which kid do you rescue? More fires start so fast, there is hardly any time for even the driver to escape, let alone 3 kids strapped in.
    41. There must be a reason that Boeing 747's aren't battery powered.... Until jets are battery powered, I'll be sticking to fossil fuels for my mode of transportation.
    42. Can't bring an EV up north in the woods, nor any battery powered chain saws, where there are no grids to charge them up. You would need a huge amount of solar panels to get you anywhere.
    43. Even Mr. Bean says;
    "I love electric vehicles - and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped".
    "When you start to drill into the facts, electric motoring doesn’t seem to be quite the environmental panacea it is claimed to be." "It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the auto-mobile's fight against the climate crisis."
    Mr. Bean is a smart man.
    There's this EV van company called "Arrival", in the UK. It's been around for 10 years or so. It was worth around $13 billion just 2 years ago....
    They didn't sell a single unit, and are now bankrupt.
    Hertz rental car company backed out of a huge tesla EV purchase of 100,000 EV's. Soon after, Hertz backed out of a huge purchase of 65,000 Chinese Polestar EV's. They did that because EV's cost to much to own, and too much to operate.
    EV's (External combustion vehicles) suck, and it's a bridge to nowhere. But they do sometimes convert themselves into "internal combustion", but sadly, they can only do that 1 time.

    • @markjackson8035
      @markjackson8035 2 місяці тому

      Think I missed your point. And lost most of the will to live.

    • @SuperBartet
      @SuperBartet 2 місяці тому

      @@markjackson8035 EVs will do that to you :(

    • @kralg
      @kralg 2 місяці тому

      Your tank is not only getting smaller and smaller, but is leaking too. Fill it up, leave the car for a week untouched and check how far it will take you. And the smaller and smaller the tank gets, it is leaking more and more.

    • @SuperBartet
      @SuperBartet 2 місяці тому

      @@kralg Yes that's right, I charged my EV in winter for a trip the next day, and was shocked at just how much it lost sitting on the drive overnight. Yes I was fooled, and have found out how crap EVs are, I drive a real car now, that's one with a real engine.

    • @markjackson8035
      @markjackson8035 2 місяці тому

      @@SuperBartet I find the ill-informed, mouth-breathing, anti-EV populace to be the cause, but we all have our crosses to bear.

  • @martinmlatecek7277
    @martinmlatecek7277 2 місяці тому

    They will make them cheaper. I like electric cars, you are dreaming to think they are not the future...they will stay....

    • @HappyBagger
      @HappyBagger 2 місяці тому +1

      This won't age well. I'll park it with the "safe and effective" claims of 3 years ago

    • @stanleybuchan4610
      @stanleybuchan4610 2 місяці тому

      City runabout...fine. Distance driving...forget it. Until the infrastructure improves massively, they're a waste of time.

  • @user-xd7ui1wf8h
    @user-xd7ui1wf8h 2 місяці тому +1

    EV's, an illogical solution to an imaginary problem.