DO NOT BUY The OLD EV HERTZ TESLAS!
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A rented Tesla will always be "user abused".
Yes mate you would never know how well or badly the EV would have been driven or even repaired after it had been damaged.
@@johngoard8272 I bought an ex motobility MG TF135, it had strange knock/clunk from the steering/suspension that no garage could put right. I had the original address from the V5, the only access to that address was lots of speed bumps in that suburb. The lady car driver probably whacked it over the speed bumps as why would she care, wasn't her car and she'd get another one after 3 years. Car had been in an accident also, probably twisted something at the front
A rented tesla used and effectively sold as trade what could go wrong !
I wouldn't touch any virtual signalling mobile called EV. Used or new.
OK grandad
@@truebrit3670 WOW!
Awesome comeback little fella!
You sure showed him!
Maybe next time you can use the school yard classic enjoyed by 6 year olds around the world, " I know you are, but what am I?"
Again, awesome comeback little fella!
BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@brucemitchell5637 ok grandad
Bad idea to by ANY ex-rental car car, but especially an EV. Though buying a new Tesla is a worse idea; it’s like throwing $1000 away (or more) in the trash every month, because that’s the depreciation of them.
I know why and where the depreciation comes from, the battery pack, turns out manufacturers salesmen and dealerships consider it a "consumable" and "unsellable" official behind closed doors terms and it's value lost immediately after the purchase of an EV..since those battery in most cases are roughly 33% of the car price that's what you lose the instant you buy it 0 miles driven 0 minutes ownership boom 10-20-30'000GBP gone
My wife has taken "off-road " excursion on at least 3 occasions in the 6 years we have owned her car. Any one of those adventures would have potentially cost 10's of thousands of dollars. As it stands, I fixed the broken plastic belly pan with a few screws and a small sheet of donor plastic. I am NOT buying her an ev!
yep I currently drive a sportscar it sits at 2.7" from the ground in 5 years I got a tree branch fallen during a storm, some aluminium part lost from a truck in front of me on the highway unavoidable ice blocks at the center of the road very deformed asphalt from heavy vehicles tractors and such and rockfall from mountain cliffs all scratched my undertray it's all a bit too much and I'm looking to change car but anyway you get the idea, I am looking at hybrids ONLY if their small rechargeable battery is safely placed (like under the passenger seats) no EV nor PHEV (same problem battery is too exposed) as I would have "totaled" the car several times already if I had one
The EV nightmare continues...
In your tiny brain. Mine are just wonderful. Overtaking all the stupid ICE drivers at 75 because they cannot afford to go faster.
@@nathansmith7153I am near constantly, pulling trailers 100s Km with a loaded vehicle (- 5 Tonne all up). EVs simply cannot do this. The fuel costs on my 27 year old Range Rover running LPG, costs only two-thirds of the MacMasters recent video where he had to public-charge - WTF! I appreciate there is a small market for EVs, with people who have off-street parking and can charge at home, whilst only commuting 50KM or less to work and back. Apart from that tiny use case, EVs are simply not currently fit for purpose and a huge step backwards for people who actually need to do stuff using their vehicles.
@@nathansmith7153 .... so Nate.... you spent over $100k on multiple EV's and are now pretending that other people are not going 15+ mph over the speed limit due to the cost of gas and not the posted speed limit? Let me guess. Daddy bought you that car and paid for your college too.
or did you buy them with loans... and now have a 2nd mortgage?
@@nathansmith7153 Good to see your saving all that money on fuel as your gonna need it to pay for all the speeding tickets - pure genius.
@@farnthboy I know exactly what the limit is where I am - 13 mph over will not get you pulled over. 1 million miles,even facing a State trooper with his radar gun out. I know my math and statistics. You should learn some.
Tens of thousands of dollars for a rental cell phone that can be driven... sometimes... and no one wants them? Shocker...
A quarter sized hole in the undercarriage. That would be a trivial repair job on any ICE. But it most likely means a write-off for an EV.
Yes that's a major problem with ICE vehicles. I heard 2 out of 3 have quarter inch holes in their floor plans.
Good point. I think you've nailed it.
@@truebrit3670 You must have almost broke your back bending over backwards to misunderstand my comment.
@@mikethespike7579 you almost consumed your braincell trying to think of a reason to hate something you don't understand.
@@truebrit3670 .... so did you just consume your last braincell for "trying to think of a reason to hate something you don't understand."
you know... normal non-ecocultists.
@@truebrit3670 LOL! Try not to have a stroke straining that one brain cell of yours trying to think up stupid half baked comments. You seem to be a very unhappy individual. What went wrong in your life to be like that?
DO NOT BUY ANY EV'S, NEW OR OLD!!!
Why because it would make you look stupid to your planet trashing buddies? Mine work JUST FINE. Sorry you cannot figure it out
You sound jealous of people paying next to nothing to leave you standing at lights. Does it hurt that people don't need to spend half their income on fuel and have more power and a better driving experience than you have? Poor thing.
@@truebrit3670 ....."next to nothing" is $100k? if you meant a used EV is cheap at $20k... i have a boat (with a hole in it) i can sell you on the cheap as well.
"leaving you standing at the lights" you mean that extra 1s it will take them to hit 45 when you are not stuck behind 10 mf'ers going 10 under?
If EV adoption exceeds 10%, mileage taxes will be applied to EV's. This will put them far more expensive than ICE. 40% of the gas costs are TAXES (see California gas tax now at $2/gallon in additional to the federal $0.184/gallon)
..... as far as drive quality.. you obviously havnt driven much. or are your once a week grocery runs in a glass fishbowl that exciting for you?
@@truebrit3670 PS... you should check your tires.... if you are flooring it at every light, you most likely need a new set already
@@zarthemad8386 new EVs are already 20% of sales. Used EVs are the largest part of the used market.
You enjoy your bbq. I bet you still have a Nokia 3310 telling people with the latest smart phones they're idiots 🤣🤣🤣
Carry on grandad.
Would stand to reason Hertz was deferring maintenance for mos knowing they were gonna dump'em & of course with no warranty...why would they continue sinking money into the shit show.
As for the sucker buyers of these pooches with fleas...PT Barnum was spot-on with 'a Sucker born every minute' > reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "hurts don'it" 😅
In contrast to most people in the comments here, I did own 2 EV's and had a few on short term lease. First one was Mercedes-Benz EQC, had it for about a year, then got a Polestar 2 and had that one for a year. On the EQC I sold it with loss of about 3000 EUR and on Polestar 2 it was about 4000 EUR loss. I purchased both cars new. Service on EV was free. Now I own Toyota Rav4 which I got about a year ago and put about 50000 km on it. It's a 2020 model. I did own all 3 cars for about the same time, had about 50k km on all 3 of them during that time. But my biggest financial loss will be with Toyota. Not only will I loose about 5000 EUR in selling price, it cost me about 1500 EUR in service, and about 3000 EUR more in fuel compared to EV's.
So comparing buying new EV and owning it for a year or buying a second hand petrol car you will on average loose 5000 EUR more.
I have calculated it for a few purchase / finance options and different car models - all within 50-70k EUR price range - you will basically loose double on a regular car compared to EV.
That's real life actual data.
Now if you drive like 10-15k km a year, just take a bus.
Buying any car is taking an expensive risk even brand new ones are sometimes damaged during delivery
then patched up before an unsuspecting customer sees them.
Yes it happened to me, but only once.
Why anyone would buy any ex-rental car is beyond me, they are not treated with any thought for the
next rental customer let alone anyone buying it used.
I am a car dealers worst nightmare, i run a full history check and then inspect every inch of it, and then pay for
a full independant engineers report, if found to be safe to buy only then do i negotiate a sale.
There are always issues on any car new or used.
I bought a flood salvage Hertz model 3 two years ago and repaired it, it’s been a good cheap reliable and trouble free car since.
When my starter battery has failed or just recently the leisure battery in my caravan needed replacing I have bought brand new, not second hand. So by the same token who in their right mind would buy a second hand battery car. Even if it’s not a rental, you don’t know how many times it has been charged or what life it has got left. Faults and problems with ICE cars are easy to spot and easy to fix.
I've got my own punchline to any EVangelist "how many times have you ever bought 2nd hand used batteries ?"
Everybody knows ‘rental cars’ are the fastest cars in the world 😂
We,re told EVs are the way forward…..I’ve just bought a straight six bmw…..it’s ace
Would you buy a old phone with 60% battery
Or a laptop or tablet with the same problem
The cost of a replacement battery is not worth the outlay And there's your EV problem
Sounds like there's your used phone problem.
It would not be a problem if the phone had charge management, liquid cooling, cell balancing and temperature management.
But it doesn't.
An EV does, and you don't know it. There's your EV problem. Ignorance.
After sifting out the myths and nonsense online I bought a 2nd hand 2021 Nissan Leaf and it’s the best car I’ve ever owned. I do agree not to buy an ex lease vehicle but buying a 2nd hand ev is an amazing bargain. Insurance exactly the same, my running costs dropped from £60 to £6 for equivalent miles when compared to my petrol corsa and no road tax anymore. It has more gadgets than I could want, super fast around town and on the dual carriageway and top up the battery about once a week. With a battery warranty for 100k miles or 8 years I’ve got years of fun worry free driving ahead.
We are currently visiting the UK and have rented a polestar 2 from Hertz. Actually it's a great car to drive but it looks like it has developed a fault or two and keeps displaying warning messages on the dash. I'm really unimpressed with the charging infrastructure in North Wales but fortunately we can plug in where we are visiting and can trickle charge at night. If that were not possible then there is a single rapid charger and otherwise about 2 locations with slower charging options within a reasonable distance. I'm not sure why the uk is so slow to provide infrastructure but it's way behind our home town which has roughly 1000 charging stations.
B/c building "safe" high speed chargers can cost up to $1M ....you were foolish to rent an EV and you will probably miss your flight while charging the car
B/c building "safe" high speed chargers can cost up to $1M ....you were foolish to rent an EV and you will probably miss your flight while charging the car
Charging is lacking in North Wales compared with elsewhere. Maybe its a Welsh government thing. But I was in North Wales yesterday. Charged in Caernarfon at the sports centre at an excellent rate. . £12 to fill up. Job done. It wasn't difficult.
@@truebrit3670 I don't disagree that North Wales is lagging, but our next challenge is to return the car charged to 80% to Manchester airport. The car show zero chargers at the airport. Compare that to the roughly 60 chargers at Schiphol and literally hundreds in the nearby built up areas.
@NickAskew just fully charge it at the Tesla superchargers in Flint. Do you have Zapmap?
'Got an EV? Don't Park Near Me'
I work in the rental business and would never buy an ex rental let alone an ex rental ev. They have a very hard life, sometimes are late servicing and have loads of body repairs.
The EV market is only going to get worse as the manufacturers offload their new models to try and reach the government mandate. Politicians and market forces do not mix.
By worse you mean better? More EVs sold. More on the road. More exposure. Lower insurance. More demand. More chargers. Fewer fuel stations.
That's what's happening now. Enjoy.
@@truebrit3670 correct. If we don't buy EVs then life as we know it will cease and everything will be destroyed in a fiery hell. Greta says so.
@@truebrit3670 insurers are only expected to raise insurance rates on EV's as they get more dangerous the older the EV is due to battery fires.
The existing chargers and charging stations are unprofitable. Thus, they will not be maintained.... copper thieves and muggings will become common.
... so nice of you to clap absentmindedly while imposing a future hellscape on others.
Are you a comedian?
You need more practice if you're hoping to make money at it.
How very true ! What were these idiots thinking , that sould've been their moto !!
You kept mentioning high cost for maintenance, what maintenance?
Who in their right mind would buy a second hand EV
Lots of ppl James. Buying an ex rental of any type, nope
Or any EV!
Second hand cars are fine, with a warranty. Ex rental, naaah. EV? Sure, it’s got a better warranty than an ICE unless you can’t count.
Why are all these anti EV channels headed by the thick kid from school? Where are the videos by the clever kids?
Stupid is as stupid does, yes?
By the sound of it, these cars are based in USA ?
This guy doesn't want to miss any chance to trash EVs
@@nathansmith7153tell us you bought into the EV scam without telling us you bought into the EV scam, little fella. 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
@@nathansmith7153we live in global world, stories are global, where are you from?
@brucemitchell5637 What? Tesla is a American manufacturer.
@@MakeAMark1755 Tesla cars built all over the world, even China
The prison and ex girl friend are like EV’s ..if you go back to them, you haven’t got it yet..😂
Wish it wasnt so but the whole EV thing is on borrowed time... If the whole market could have been allowed to grow correctly to allow technology and benefits to come together.... But no, the governments and eco loons had to push it hard and threaten everyone....
Well we now have an eco disaster coming with vehicles that are not wanted.... Good ICE vehicles can easily do 10-15 years now... This is the ecological route to go... Economic, long lasting ICE vehicles.. and a small market of small EVs for inner city work...
There is no chance of a 100% EV world.. and it would be very bad for the planet if it did get that way...
If you cant fix it with a box of tools and a hammer forget it.
I didn’t really hear what you said in the video I was to busy laughing my ass off.
Never would I be interested in a used EV. Just bought new Genesis EVs for my wife and I on a lease. No maintenance, no repairs, and no care in the world. When its over, ill get a new one. I love it. I don't love it enough to want to own it as I to believe its a ticking time bomb. I just won't be the one to deal with the boom
Cry about it all you like, I was able to get a 2022 long range dual motor M3 for 19k. Worth the gamble to me.
The cars are heavy, dangerous to emergency crews in even a minor accident, in normal use they are fragile, a simple road hazard like a small piece of metal or other common hazard an ice car would laugh off is a life ending crisis ($$$$ repairs) the EV gets stopped in its tracks.
Incompetent leaders in GB, US and other countries are pushing net zero which is IMPOSSIBLE.
Rental cars are great off-road vehicles. A 2WD Cruze will get you 90 per cent of the places the big boys go, and getting it back out isn't your problem, it's Hertz's problem
Most rental vehicles have been abused polished to look good mechanical are costly to put right. As for EVs most who rented hammered them and when the motion sickness started they handed them back. The saying goes if its sounds to good to be true there is a catch.
It's bad enough considering buying an ex-rental ic vehicle, never mind and EV vehicle.
We love our Tesla, but I would never buy one used. How the car is treated is insanely important with an EV.
Thunderfoot UA-cam channel for more Tesla bad news! 😂
I like the part where it shows an EV buyer reflecting on his choice :( rofl
As I mentioned to someone else's comment you would never know how well or badly the EV would have been driven or even repaired after it had been damaged. So anyone buying one of any used EV let alone one from a rental company like Hertz is taking their lives into their own hands and frankly I would assume they would get no comeback if things went belly up. So everyone caveat emptor as always, (buyer beware)
So the premise of this video is Ex rental cars can be a bit iffy. Ok, tell me something new! There is an expression - drive it like you stole it - when you rent a car.. doesn’t matter what powers it..
The EV is a step backward in cars and a step towards pricing people off the road.
Does your car have a state of the art entertainment system, first class driving assistance? Can it drive itself on long journeys? Does it refuel itself every night whilst you sleep. Does it defrost and warm itself ready for you to get in on cold mornings? Does it outpace a 1990s Porsche 911 like its not even trying?
No? Then I guess whatever an EV is, it's a step forward from the mobile BBQ you're driving.
Does your car have a state of the art entertainment system? Yes
First class driving assistance? Yes, but who uses that trash?
Can it drive itself on long journeys? No. I dont like faulty programming from an intern being incharge of my life.
Does it refuel itself every night whilst you sleep. Nope. but getting gas once in 3 months for 5 minutes isnt an issue
Does it defrost and warm itself ready for you to get in on cold mornings? It can, but i have a garage.
Does it outpace a 1990s Porsche 911 like its not even trying? Yes. (the porsche is still sitting in the shop waiting on another 10k repair)
BTW.. my challenger cost far less than your toy car that you will need to get rid of in under 10 years.
@zarthemad8386 so tell me, what ICE car has self driving?
@zarthemad8386 I rented a challenger a couple of years back for two weeks in Vegas and my money is on you've taught your bum hole to comment on UA-cam.
@@truebrit3670 why would you want self driving in the first place.
If I don't want to drive I call a taxi.
Would you buy a used pregnancy test?
Steer clear of all this EV $$hit show. Run and don't look back.
Used EVs are NOT cheaper than dirt because they're valuable.
LOL, who’s paying you buddy? Why would you be against clean air in cities and not having to rely on Middle East or Russia for energy?
Buy them. This is urban myth. Many happy owners got a bargain.
I drove mine from the East Midlands to Anglesey yesterday. When I say I drove, the car drove itself most of the way. It was an absolute pleasure. What a superb piece of engineering my car is. I'd used 50% of my charge when i got there so I topped up at Caernarfon for £12 after paying just 1p a mile for the journey so far. 150 miles, £1.50. I've more than enough to tour the area and get home, total cost £13.50 with juice left in the 'tank'.
BTW the car is 3y old, 20k miles, I would say cost less than equivalent ICE but in my opinion there is no equivalent. Cost £360 to insure fully comp for business. Its quicker than most ICE cars and drives itself.
The anti EV comments on here are hilarious. I can see them all. Chain smoking old hard men, sat in their underpants in their council flat "EVs are rubbish. I'm never buying an EV"
We don't care. If you don't want to experience the best driving package money can buy, don't. No one cares.
@@truebrit3670 So true, and to top it off this is coming from a guy who doesn't even own an EV so he's already clueless.
The best thing about EV's is that they identify idiots. I wouldn't take one if they PAID me $4K.
That's a lot of idiots then, the Tesla model Y was the Worlds best selling car in 2023.
1-Tesla model Y 1.15 m
2-Toyota Corolla 1.13 m
I think this is very much a Tesla problem. Tesla build quality is laughable, two of my friends who have owned them have both had numerous problems from day one, with loose ill fitting trim to mechanical issues.( both bought from Tesla) One of them had panel gaps that looked like it had been in an accident( it was new) and was told that these gaps were within tolerance ( from thin enough to barely get a sheet of paper to wide enough fingers)
I wouldn't buy a second hand EV, full stop. Take away the shit range, hour plus fill up time and all the other problems with them, even then you know you are getting something that will halve in value every couple of years, if that.
Looks like used EVs are a bad deal...you don't know if you are buying a lemon..if it needs expensive repairs it is worthless
Whenever I get my paws on a rental, I ensure that it gets an ultimate work out. I rented a Tesla in the UK, for a trip from London to Inverness return, It certainly took a real hiding.
What is the point of this video? Buyer beware. If you don't know what you are looking at then get it checked before you buy by an expert, petrol, ev or diesel.
As for buying a rental car, any car will be given a hard life which is obvious. If it isn't your car would you worry about looking after the engine? I wouldn't bother warming it up before driving it hard, I wouldnt worry about putting to cheapest poor quality fuel in. I wouldn't worry about the clutch. As long as it goes back looking the same to the rental company they have no idea how it being driven. Do they check underneath to see if you've grounded out and damaged the fuel tank (which can require specialist welding) or battery shield - of course not.
Personally I'd never buy a rental car or any type. I drive an EV and would never go back to combustion. I would buy a second hand EV just not one that had been abused.
Buy an EV from Hertz and before you've got it home they'll have reported it stolen and then they'll charge you over $200 for 'refuelling' because it'll be less than 97% charged 🤣
Buying ANY ex-rental car is a gamble. It's a well known fact that the only car that is better than any 4x4 for getting absolutely everywhere is a rental lol
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If you have a smart phone, you know where the chargers are.
Do you live in 1999?
You'd think that rentals in general would need more maintenance and repairs. So, you'd then ascertain what would these services cost for an EV and make a decision accordingly... nope... EVs are total virtue signals and shouldn't be a part of any business.
Wow, a Scotsman that speaks understandable English, well done!
You should get reported
Obviously the loveable Scousers, Brummie and Newcastle residents speak perfectly
only if you are a cloth eared southerner anywhere else on the planet is fine
try understanding a cajun
The company name is Hertz, not Hairs.
Heh ish Scottish, aarrrr
@@b4ph0m3tdk9- Yep. And I'm guessing the complainant speaks fluent small-town Merkinese. "We don't take kindly to strangers round these parts, bwah. Hey, Jessie-May? Whar's mah shootin' iron?"🙄
Plainly wrong.
EV's, an illogical solution to an imaginary problem.
Just don't buy an EV.
Love you, though ❤
Because you love polluting our planet? 5 years no repairs. 4p a mile and a view in my rear view mirror of you clowns stumbling to get moving.
Is this all you can do in life - trash EVs?
No, this is just how thuths work.
It's great fun. And they are to be avoided. Unless you like hanging around in petrol stations and motorway services.
So you e never owned one then. Classic BS without any knowledge. I hand around my house as my EV charges, as I sleep. Enjoy the petrol stations and paying all that tax. Cheers!
WOW! If you're this butt hurt now, imagine how butt hurt you're going to be when you find out what the resale value of your EV is, little fella! BAHAHAHAHA!!!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@rogerfinch7651....hopefully your EV wont burn down your house while you sleep