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What If Darth Plagueis Killed Darth Sidious (Palpatine) (Star Wars What Ifs)
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2022
- When Sidious killed his master in his sleep, he was defenseless, what if Plagueis was ready for the attack? Would Plagueis be ready to fight off Sidious and if so would he be able to accomplish as much as the Sith Lord?
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Plagueis: Take a seat, young apprentice.
Sidious: 🗿
Anakin: 🤣
Mace: You aint safe either young skywalker.
Anakin: 🗿
You did what I recommended a while ago. Good... Gooooooddddd... The Force is strong with you. A more powerful UA-camr you are becoming.
Plaguies is my father
The force is my father
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries
Good. Gooood. You are fulfilling your destiny
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What if instead of Palpatine slaying Plaugus, Plaugus decided to retire from being the dark lord of the Sith. The logic running through my head being "The sith ruling the galaxy must be THE dark lord, not the apprentice. But Plagus would rather study the force and leave ruling to Sidius. Thus handing the title of dark lord to Sidius". Maybe Plagus would call himself a sith noble instead of a sith lord after handing over his position as dark lord.
I doubt that would go to well Sideous would just off him first chance he got probably a lot easier since he wouldn’t even have to necessarily do it himself he could send Maul,Dooku,clones,grevouis, or alot of other characters. I doubt Palp would want to leave someone powerful enough to challenge him in the future and at the very least a loose end in the grand plan.
I don’t think Sidious would like that, he’d probably feel like he didn’t earn the title or that as long as Plagus is alive he’ll never be the true Sith Lord and maybe the force wouldn’t fully accept him
I'm not convinced that would work either, the Sith take power by overthrowing the leader and the rule of 2 makes that case as it is not like a dynasty where one ruler steps down to let his son take over, it is purely might makes right with the Sith, you basically have to take the position by killing your master.
You would have abandon the Rule of 2 completely to allow Plagueis to step down.
Maybe a different structure. Perhaps it starts as a new Sith Triumverate.
No. Once he gave up power, Palpatine would kill him out of sheer disgust
What if the moment the Jedi found out that Dooku ordered the Clone army, they restarted thier investigation of the inhibitor chips.
It is very strange that the Republic did not remember who the Sith were. The last Sith Empire fell just a thousand years before 1 episode. This is not so long ago by the standards of Star Wars, and at that time there were creatures that witnessed the events of the new Sith wars
Yes, you actually did this one, HELL yeah. Darth plagueis story lets GO!
Thank you so much!
Pente “what if Obi wan fell in love with Asajj Ventress”
*angery Satine noises*
:(( haha
Please do what if grievous found out that dooku bombed his ship
yo that would be amazing
What if anakin Was trained as a Jedi from birth
This is one absolute Hell of a dark Alternate Timeline.
Just when you thought YOU were the most powerful
Sidious: “I AM The Dark Side”
Plagueis: Hold my Ale
What if Ashoka trained Cal Kestis after the events of fallen order?
I second this what if.
I think he should wait on this one to see what the sequel is going to do with Cal, seeing as it’s been confirmed.
Plagueis' hubris was his biggest weakness, and the Force disliked him so much that it created Anakin in response. I think a mention of Anakin's immunity to Plagueis' force manipulations would have been good in the ending of the video.
Plagueis thinks of the Force as something he can control and rebukes the idea that it is in some manner unknowable.
What if Luke and Leia were triplets? The third child's fate would be up to you, but perhaps they are raised by Vader?
Yeah like Vader knew that his child was born but not that they were triplets so he went to the 3rd and killed the people they were given to or something like that
I would imagine that it would be a son whose training would be similar to starkiller
@@wolffang471 but What if Luke and Leia were triplets? The third child's fate would be up to you, but perhaps the twins were raised by yoda, kenobi then turned
What if the Jedi split into two different orders when the Jedi Council banned marriage and reinterpreted the Jedi Code between 4,000-3,500 BBY?
They kinda-sorta did have schismatics like the Djinn Altis faction.
Got an idea for you.
What if Dooku betrayed and killed Sidious early in the Clone Wars?
What if kid anakin found HK-47
Statement: greetings meatbags ( Qui Gon Jar Jar and Padme) 😂
Great video, though I see a major loophole:
Do you really think the Republic would accept the Sith so easily? I don't, because:
A) Palpatine was killed by a lightsaber wielder... sure, evidence pointed towards it being a Jedi, but they'd co-existed with the Republic for ages, and never assassinated a future Chancellor.
B) The Sith have been believed extinct for a millenium, and The Republic had also been at war with the Sith in the past. The Chancellor is bound to have records of this in their quarters, as are most other Senators.
C) The Sith just happened to show up when the Jedi temple was under attack and the Jedi were blamed for the death of Palpatine.... This is too significant to just be a coincidence.
And bear in mind, the Senate didn't know Palpatine was a Sith Lord before they voted him in, or even until after the Galactic Empire.
I love this video also, but I have to constructively add one more thing. When did Jedi Council say that this man is no part of the Jedi Order, will the Senate and all of the citizens really believe it was a jedi?
Sure they dont know every member, that adds to the plot working! So it can work; but the plot depends alot on this fact. How much the citizens hate the jedi currently to believe the slander/info vs jedi's word.
At the time of the Naboo Crisis the Jedi were still revered and beloved by most of the populace (that doesn’t really change till the Clone Wars and chaos and destruction that brings) and had many allies and supporters in the senate for this to be realistic. The blame for the murder would fall on a fallen Jedi (likely Dooku as he left by this point) and the Jedi would be scolded for not protecting the new Chancellor better or the Senate Commando’s would take a royal bollucking for this fuck up.
What would likely happen would there would be an investigation into this and the Jedi would be placed in charge of protecting the Chancellory and any attempt to blame or remove the Jedi would be ignored and mocked for being delusional. The Jedi were too big, popular, old, and entrenched to be thrown out like this. That’s just not how politics and political institutions worked.
Why else would Sidious go through all the effort he did to destroy the Jedi of all he needed to do was frame them for a political assassination of a prominent member of the senate to get rid of them.
I don’t buy this theory at all personally.
This! This story is good, but the Sith got insane plot armor in this What If.
It would be even better if Anakin and Qui gon survive and full potential reach Anakin later defeat pagues at his peak and restore balance
Anakin didn't die in this thro
What I dont believe you considered is that Darth Tenebrous, Plagueis's master could be inside his body through the maxi-chlorians in this timeline. You see, Tenebrous successfully invaded Plagueis's body in legends, but had a vision of Plagueis getting killed by Sidious. However, that vision would not have happened here, meaning its possible Tenebrous never ejected himself from Plagueis and instead has the opportunity to possess Anakin.
So, basically the Darkest Timeline.
What if Quinlin Vos trained Anakin. Great video as always. Much ❤
In his book plagusus master told him if he didn’t take an apprentice he’d have become immortal and ruled the galaxy. His mistake was taking palpatine on. If he killed him he’d have become the one immortal ruler of the galaxy. He’d probably have killed Anakin as a child to.
Plus the plan palpatine used the clones etc that was his masters. He’d just have waited longer and either installed a puppet or took the role himself.
dang Palpatin really messed up by killing Plagueis
What if Obi-Wan joined Anakin on Mustafar? He refuses to leave his apprentices side even as darkness takes him, and so he pledges Allegiance to Palpatine. This may also lead to Padme living? Possible turning to the dark side?
There’s no alternate reality where Kenobi turns to the dark side
@@logand3957 he is a model jedi after all
@@noahsivori2738 yeah just couldn’t happen. Dude lost everything and still never gave in to his hatred. There’s just no way this could be sold as possible. It’s a cool idea, but at the same time, way too far fetched
he could ally with anakin to overthrow the palpatine, but anakin would rather kill jedi at that point so no way it would happen
Palpatine would have him kill anakin as he needed to because even as a sith he would not be as powerful as anakin also their can only be 2
What if Darth Vader found the infinty stones?
I really appreciate your quality Star Wars content dude. What if Padme and Ahsoka fell in Love? What if Obi Wan was burned on Mustafar not Anakin Skywalker? What if Darth Plagueis trained Anakin Skywalker? What if Obi Wan died in The Phantom Menace?
All but one of those are good
One of those is not like the other
Padme is four years older than anakin
The first one is sinful
What if Obi Wan, instead of taking Luke to Tatooine, goes to Mandalore. Takes the Darksaber to rule, stopping the Pykes, Black Sun, and Crimson Dawn with a shadow government he creates, and with that government placates the Empire ending the need for the Night of a Thousand Tears. While that goes on, Obi Wan is in the background rebuilding the a true Mandalorian army that can fight the Empire (maybe the rebellion), training new balanced Jedi along with Luke (alongside the Mandalorian army), finding new force sensitive Mandalorians to be leaders of the army, but training them in the importance of helping all in the galaxy.
In Obi Wan's search for balance he finds the way to hide himself from other force users. He informs Yoda and they teach it to the new Jedi.
If you need to have him marry Bo-Katan to help cement his leadership showing he can forgive her for the death of Satine. While a marriage of convenience for Obi Wan maybe some happiness, maybe even children, can come from it.
What if mace windu survived
What if shaak ti survived
What if aayla secure survived
What if good revan trained anakin
What if the gods of mortis raised anakin
What if the jedi order raised anakin
What if Darth Maul killed Sidious after the death of Savage?
Ok here is a solid what if idea. Now a bit of lore is that KDY the builder of the Republic's Star Destroyers and Walkers was nearly part of the CIS until Palpatine screwed this over to make them join the Republic. Now here's a hypothetical what if Palpatine doesn't bother leading the Republic and instead decides to use the CIS as the basis for his Empire, he takes active command of the CIS and doesn't even bother hiding his Sith identity and leads the droid armies himself, no bothering with clones to kill the Jedi when he can just have the Droid Armies overrun them with sheer numbers the Republic would have to actually form a proper military to stop the CIS and draft its own citizens to have a chance. This a VERY interesting scenario also lets for an added bonus say that Palpatine doesn't care about having Anakin as his apprentice and instead decides to find some other VERY powerful force user and abides by the Rule of Two properly that being no fallen Jedi apprentices that is actually a rule and Darth Bane would have killed Sidious for breaking it.
Pong Krell seems likely, he was wanting to defect even when the CIS was weaker in canon
@@thepowerofluck2432 “no fallen Jedi apprentices”
What if Valkorion returned during either the Clone Wars or Galactic Empire era would be awesome :D
This is pretty crazy and insane. If that became a reality, then I wouldn't know what to do.
What if Yoda went to Utapau against General Grievous and Obi-One stayed and joined to Mace when Anakin revealed that Palpatine is the Sith Lord?
Yoda, Mace, Shaak and Plo going like that is hard to believe
And yaddle too
What if the Sith embrace the light side but are still rivals to the Jedi
Yo this sick easily one of the best theories I’ve ever watched well done bro 👍👍
Thank you so much!
This wus very good I wood like to hear more like this story and keep up the good work
What if Obi Wan and Shaak Ti were in love?
What if maul joined the rebels
Great video man!
Attempt number 9: What if Anakin was trained by Jedi Master Fay?
What if yoda trained Anakin Skywalker
Awesome video dude. I have a couple of what if topics. What if Count Dooku never left the jedi? What if most of the jedi survive order 66? What if Galen Marek was the same age as Anakin?
Your channel is epic lmao I’ve binged almost every video you’ve made so far🙏🙏 especially loved this one plaguis is such an interesting character to do this around
Thank you so much!
What If The Entire Jedi Council Members Arrest Sidious, Except Kenobi And Skywalker
i like the ending with plagueis becoming immortal and maul being kept alive
Absolutely loved this one, thanks for doing it! Brought me back to the plagueis novels, love how maul got the good ending here too. The sith reign supreme!
Thank you so much!
@@PentePatrolStarWars No, thank you! My favorite part may have been the sith just going nuts in the first temple attack, it was absolutely beautiful to imagine maul just being let loose on a confused Jedi temple while they’re being attacked from all sides! I definitely feel like this whole what if was fresh, plagueis is just so different from palpatine in methodology. Dude said “screw the chosen one, I’ll take my dog any day”
@@PentePatrolStarWars hi again
I appreciate your honesty and self-reflection. The essential "mind control" aspect was too much for me.
Yeah you win some and you lose some
@@PentePatrolStarWars Indeed, but I was still entertained. I usually comment on your videos, and always like them, due to your creativity and the effort you're making. You do a professional job. Thank you for creating and sharing.
@@krismikewill
I have a crazy what if idea! What if Palpatine never became Chancellor? It could go a hundred different ways, like Queen Amidala not not calling for a vote of no confidence in Chancellor Velorum, or if Senator Bale Organa or any number of other Senators became Chancellor there are really so many possibilities, but basically if Palpatine had never become Chancellor his plans would have been ruined. I don't know when in relation to becoming Chancellor he killed Plagueis, but if he had not become Chancellor would he have still acted to kill Plagueis? There really are so many ways this could go and I think you could have some real fun with this idea.
Actually I know when he killed Plagueis it’s immediately right after the vote of no confidence within Palpatine on that night because it’s stated inside the Novel of Darth Plagueis the wise.
I love these what if vids bro keep it up
Thank you so much!
Amazing video Pente!
Thank you so much!
There is no way and I mean no way that mal would have been able to take out as many Jedi as he did in this what if
yea and also Yoda, Mace, Shaak and Plo going out by a bunch of soldiers is absurd
What if Dooku was trained by Plagueis from birth?
that was one of the most terrifying tales ever told
16:15 "So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause"
You unlocked the Sith ending
This was really good man, I'm surprised you don't like it!
Hey, so for your next video are you going to do a what if Bly and Aayla feel in love? Please let it happen
He knew that the Force did not obey them completely and he wanted to beat it according to its rules. He was a danger to the Force, and The Force got rid of him with the help of Palpatine, whispering to him to kill the teacher. The Force attacked Maul, confusing his mind, so he hesitated and missed Kenobi's blow. The force controls everything. And then Anakin killed the Emperor, and the tide of the dark side ended. Such is the will of the Force. Therefore, he had to die.✌
Hi again great video
Hello thank you!
What if Padme Amidala was a jedi? She was stated to have one of the highest midichlorian counts so she may became very powerful.
that was because of luke and leia
This was cool as hell!
What if Han and Chewie die fighting imps in the corridors of the SD1 and force Luke and Leia +droids to fly the Falcon in a new hope? Meaning they have no contacts on Bespin, and nobody to find Luke in the snow on Hoth.
edit: spelling
Well that went dark quickly 😂
Would he freak out of Anakin, or he would be interested in Anakin as the only single being created by the Force Itself, could he be sway to the darkness?
I think he would’ve killed him by accident
@@PentePatrolStarWars yeah probably, but as a Scientist as Plagueis is, well more probably he would clone him and experiment with the Midichlorians.
I recommend a part 2 of this with u zang vong attacking
What if Darth Plageius as Hego Damask became the co chancellor like he planned in the Novel?
damn that was dark 👍🏻bravo
I was wondering how it would change the fate for aniken skywalker hahaha
Anyway love this vids I think your vids are awesome love ya 😊
Thank you so much!
Please do what if Obi-Wan survived the fight with Vader in a New Hope.
I got one for ya: What if Leia went with Luke to Dagobah?
-What if in SWTOR, Ochos of Oblivion didn’t happen and Vitiate/Valkrion return around the movies?(Could be in the same vain of the Darth JarJar fic you did.)
-What if The Rule of Two was abolished after the Clone Wars?
-What if the Sith Empire returned during the Galactic Civil War instead of the Clone Wars?
-What if Vader raised BOTH and trained of his Kids?
-What if Anakin saved Mace Windu and stayed in the light during Order 66?
-What if Thrawn was present during the Original Trilogy?
-What if Anakin/Vader was a double agent and played the long game like your Rebel Thrawn fic?
-What if Maul was found by the Jedi before Sidious?
-What if Vader,Thrawn and Several Imperials started an Imperial Rebellion separate from the Rebels,which really took off around the DS1 destruction?
-What if Vader never burned on Mustafar?
-What if Grevious was a Republic General but still hated the Jedi?
-What if Starkiller lived at the end of TFU1 and later trained the Skywalker Twins?
-What if Lord Starkiller lived at the end of TFU1 dark side ending and ignoring the dlc, basically replacing Vader?
You should make a video of what if anakin fell in love with luminarie undulie
I have four questions for any one.
1. Which one do you prefer: Sith or Jedi ?
2. If had to pick: who would be your sith master and Jedi master ?
3. Who do you prefer:Shaak Ti or Aalya Secura ?
4. And who do you think should be my Star Wars creative character wife: Aayla Secura or Shaak Ti ?
1. I'm a sith and will always choose sith over jedi.
2. As a jedi it would be qui gon jinn but as a sith master, either darth revan or darth malgus.
3. Shaak ti was pretty powerful and I like her species.
4. Attachments are forbidden for jedi so you cant have a wife as one, if you have a wife as a sith then that wife is your weakness so not worth having a wife as a dark sider
@@leejamesmccarthy It didn't stop Anakin or Luke for having wiving.
@@savagedarksider5934 no it didn't stop them but look what having a wife did to them, made anakin turn to the dark side in his bid to save her and he choked her coz of it... if I remember correctly on luke having a wife, it nearly turned him to the dark side aswel... having a wife as either a jedi or a sith is more of a weakness than it ever will be as a strength... love does crazy things to people, it only makes force sensitive people all the more dangerous for it
@@leejamesmccarthy True, But it is more interesting to either watch or read about. In any case, My star wars creative character is one of the very few force sensitive individuals who can have A healthy relationship.
@@savagedarksider5934 easier said than done, anything can tip you over the edge, remember what yoda said... train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose... having an attachment to a wife is something no one can really let go of easily, that attachment like he said all too easily leads to fear of loss and then hate and so on and so on etc. The only way to have a healthy relationship is to not get too attached in the first place
What if yoda left the jedi order or what if Yoda trained anakin
I gave the video a like for the effort you put into it, but I don't agree with the path the story took. I have not done a ton of research, but it is my understanding the Palpatine came from a political family so he was more interested in political power where as Plagueis was focused on the raw power of the dark side of the force, so I don't think he would have had the charisma to sway the senators as he did in the story you presented. Had Plagueis killed Palpatine when Palpatine tried to kill him I can believe that the Jedi would have been blamed as an investigation would have revealed the type of weapon used, a lightsaber, and only the Jedi used such a weapon and the Sith were believed extinct, so I think Plagueis would had continued accumulating power from the shadows as he had been, but would have used the Jedi being blamed for the death of Palpatine to make a move toward eliminating the Jedi, I just don't think he would have done so using political means, that was Palpatine's method, again I don't have an extensive knowledge of Star Wars lore, so I could be way off, but I just don't think things would have gone the way you presented them.
Write a part 2 for this which has one of his sith warriors turning to the light
i have possibly one of the shortes what ifs idea, what if anakin just blocked windu strike rather then cutting his hand of
This is amazing.🗿
Thank you so much! 🗿
Attempt #5 What if Shaak Ti Trained Savage?
I feel plagueis would have been more powerful than sidious if he lived
I’ve seen a few versions of this story but what if he just beat Palpatine defeating him in combat but sparing him for his plans.
I wonder if palpatine is actually still alive especially if he was able to make clones of himself
Do what if Mother Talzin and the Jedi became allies
Two things that would cost many baes with a side of the Jedi have. and the dark side taught to younglings
What if anikin was trained by dooku maybe
-Darth plagueis- Hego damask:have ever hear the tragedy of darth sidious the fool
Great video what if docko killed ani in rots
Maul could only kill padawans and knighs at that time, not jedi masters, senate at that time was not in complete control of the sith, they would remember all the good things jedi did in 1000 years, how they helped and bring hope to the galaxy and the Republic, so they would not side with the sith that quicly like they did with Palpatine. Only real denger is Pleagaus who was powerfull, but he is one against many, if he could do that all alone he would never need Palpatine to take controle of the Senate.
I'm picturing Maul looking fir tge addresses to the other Jedi Temples."Got 1 master, #12 jedi lane ,Jeddha "J12 7ED 😂
Would love to see your take on what if Sidious and Plagueis didn't betray eachother. Would be cool to see or read about an all out brawl between Anakin and the master council vs a fully powered up Plagueis and Sidious
The Jedi went out unbelievably easy here. Great premise though
What if Palpatine ordered the construction of the Mecha Zillo Beast.
Total victory at last!
can you do a alt timeline where anakin stays on tatooine instead of going to coruscant?
Wait till you see....
If you guys could animate these, oh damn. The one where Luke turns Vader before the death star battle... man I would buy tickets for that story, ashoka, Sabine wren, returned anakin, come on I don't need to go further
You just wait ; )
Awwww shit this is where the fun begins
IDK… I liked it, mostly because it moved away from the “Good Guys Always Win” stereotype. Sometimes it’s good to mix it up.
Stay awesome dude!
Nice
"Sofa Dias" 🛋🤣 5:40
I once again ask for an what if where obi wan is killed when he cosplays a bountyhunter (maybe when anakin was kicking him)