Loved this one. Complete and total departure from the story but at a later point than most departures are really possible. One thing I would have personally liked to see as a final twist was make Palpatine reawaken after Plagueis moved to Anakin. There are several possible alternate paths to take it from there, though.
I think Luke and Leia would still rise up and defeat "Anakin Plagueis", and Plagueis would fail to "possess" either of them. But Plagueis still had all his experiments (and Palpatine continued many of them), so a "Snoke" would still come to exist maybe as a new host for Plagueis.
20:00.....issue here. When Vader returned, even if Plagueis pretended to be Palpatine, Vader could easily sense his master. His dark side energy would be very different, suddenly. Vader should be able to sense the difference. And just because Plageis perfected this transfer, it didn't mean he had any idea how to hide this transfer with another force user. This matter was never addressed.
Not really. Plaguies essense was mixed with Sidious the moment Plagues infected Sidious. And I think that even after the takeover they remained mixed. After all Sidious midichlorians were still alive. To me it more seems like you make a person slightly stringer by infecting them (adding the maxichlorians) and then when you take over you are them in all aspects except consciousness.
I felt this way too. Like there should be something different, even if miniscule, but undeniable.... Even if I do feel Vader would have been down with it in the end.
Now that's what I call plague. This what-if painted a suitable image of Darth Plagueis. Pity for Luke and Leia, they'll have bad time with Plagueis. Assuming Obi-Wan still intending to train Luke to be a Jedi and the Rebellion still pop up out of dissatisfaction and fear with how the Emperor govern.
Also imagine Plagueous letting Anakin back into his body afterwards waking Ani’s consciousness from the Padme Dream just so he can enter The World Between Worlds would be something to behold ect…. Imagine an alternate universe Palpatine using Sith Lightniyffom 1 of the portals to hurt Anakin still as Vader or Anakin screaming about the Force Visions of Plagueous infiltrating Palpatine’s body ect…… Could you just imagine Anakin wondering if maybe Plagueous is inside him now??? The possibilities with this story are definitely vast for sure.😂😂😂😂
It's pretty clear Palpatine couldn't kill Plagueis in canon either Palpatine had to get Plagueis drunk and asleep before just sneaking up and stabbing Plagueis with his lightsaber
@@jotheunissen9274 well remember in the book it went down as a "breathing mask malfunction" so if he had obvious blaster or lightsabre marks on him, it would be murder, which palpatine didnt want any scandals, having just been elected. remember he could feel his midochlorians winking out one by one. palpatine said "are you still with us plaguise? yes, but barely, you are asking their midochlorians what they cannot do" so he would have felt him dying, and enivitably die..
What if *every* dark sider and *every* light sider had their morality switched, like in that scrapped Battlefront 3 concept? Could a pure hearted Chancellor Palpatine save Anakin from the dogmatic and manipulative Jedi? Would the "Jedi" take over the Republic? Would there still be a Clone Wars?
One of the other What If channels did that one. Palpatine and Plagueis, as Jedi in this timeline, exploit a well known fact about the Sith, which is that the Sith always betray one another. They get the Sith to fight each other by making them think that the other Sith have challenged them to a fight over their seat of power in the galaxy. I think it's called 'What if the Jedi and Sith were switched'.
One of the better Plagueis stories though I doubt after a while, healing would take years. Plagueis brought back Venamous back again and again, I assume reasonably quickly. If you can do that for the dead, then healing is small fry with practice. Also wisince the midi-chlorians grant a being access to the Force, Plagueis could tell another person's midi-chlorians to cut off access as well or show fake visions or lower the mind defenses so he can control them like that yinchorri. He just didn't have time and was foolish to field test it while dying and not before.
I wonder if instead of destroying Darth Vader, simply gave him peaceful rest. Revealing himself as plagieus while he was healing Anakin, utterly destroying his inner compass. Then offering him peace, to go to sleep and live the life he deserved, only needing to come out when called. His incredible martial skill on tap. Become the maxichlorian avatar. All the best hosts in store, or even with alchemy able to be given a new body if it served him. The rule of two replaced with a Pokémon trainer’s PC box of persona.
@@debutriah2854 Sith Lords are superior to Jedi in every way, in philosophy and in power. The Jedi teachings are irresponsible, they are nothing more than oppressive doctrines made to create religious fanatics. The Sith at least practice freedom, they don't HAVE to do anything, they aren't servants to any blind or stupid code. They are allowed to feel, to be angry, to be vengeful, they are allowed to be human, that's why they will always be better than the Jedi.
What I hate about "bleeding cristals", is that it unsurprisingly breaks another original cannon lore, how the banished dark jedi got their lightsabers? In the original EU it was synthetic cristals, and it was a good explanation, but now somehow they had cristals or something? Or disney just ignores that part to fit their low effort fanfic?
Well now that's interesting!!! What if Palps had a doubt, hesitation if you will in that night and Plagueis open his eyes burning bright yellow, barking your dog failed!!! The jedi are alive, and the boy might be out of reach. . . . . . . for now, now go Supreme chancellor, go sleep. And Palatine is left trembling in fear and shock that his master could still had that much power behind and that his master could still kill him.
I would think that believing that Padme had forgiven and absolved him would allow Anakin to be at peace enough for the wild card to come into play... As Anakin prepared to release himself from existence, he heard the voice of his Master... Master Qui Gon calling to him... "Anakin... Anakin...Take my hand. Your journey has not ended yet.' "Why are you here, Master?" "Because you need me, Anakin... And also... Those who push the force must learn that the force has a way of pushing back... As Darth Sidious's Master is due to learn..." Plagueis had won... HE was the chosen one. The Galaxy was his... Until he became aware of a presence. A voice he thought he had silenced... "You're in my life Plagueis... And I've come to take it back."
What if Palpatine stopped Vader from trying to throw him into the reactor shaft? Maybe instead of stupidly trying to use force lighting on Vader, he decided to use Force Crush to immediately disable vader and be free from his grasp, able to kill his traitorous apprentice and Luke.
yeah, he always taught maul to "go for the throat" that a sith doesnt draw out a conflict but siezes it immediately. you're right. he should have force grabbed vader's legs or something, crushed his helmet, gotten dropped onto the floor, then finish or enslave luke.
Palpatine: "Why won't you die!?"
Plagueis: "Maxi-chlorians, Sheev! They infect in response to physical trauma!"
Best comment here. 😆
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance reference👏😂
My midi-chlorians are Maximum!!
"Maxi-Chlorans Son."
How the hell did you get elected?
Palpatine: "Why cant I kill you?!"
Plagueius: "Skill issue"
Forgot to mention that, as only Force essence, Darth tenebrous could not scream. Despite the terror he experienced on a constant basis
I have no mouth and I must scream
...The ending Vader truly deserved. Almost a tear-jerker.
This video hits so hard after just completing the Darth Plagueis audiobook, well done as always!
well. darth plaguis isnt heartless. he granted Anakin a peaceful, merciful, death. what if plaguis simply killed sidious?
Loved this one. Complete and total departure from the story but at a later point than most departures are really possible. One thing I would have personally liked to see as a final twist was make Palpatine reawaken after Plagueis moved to Anakin. There are several possible alternate paths to take it from there, though.
I think Luke and Leia would still rise up and defeat "Anakin Plagueis", and Plagueis would fail to "possess" either of them. But Plagueis still had all his experiments (and Palpatine continued many of them), so a "Snoke" would still come to exist maybe as a new host for Plagueis.
20:00.....issue here. When Vader returned, even if Plagueis pretended to be Palpatine, Vader could easily sense his master. His dark side energy would be very different, suddenly. Vader should be able to sense the difference. And just because Plageis perfected this transfer, it didn't mean he had any idea how to hide this transfer with another force user. This matter was never addressed.
Not really. Plaguies essense was mixed with Sidious the moment Plagues infected Sidious.
And I think that even after the takeover they remained mixed. After all Sidious midichlorians were still alive.
To me it more seems like you make a person slightly stringer by infecting them (adding the maxichlorians) and then when you take over you are them in all aspects except consciousness.
I felt this way too. Like there should be something different, even if miniscule, but undeniable....
Even if I do feel Vader would have been down with it in the end.
This was incredibly well-done. Subscribed. Plagueis is my favorite prequel character and I love stories about him.
What if Tenebrous *did* succeed in taking over Plagueius? Would he still train Palpatine? Would he succeed in creating his retro virus?
oh god, that retrovirus broke the galaxy in one of his other videos-
One of my favourite what if UA-camr
Amazing!! I do wonder what if sideous and palpatine were the same person (like normal) however palpatine never knows that he is sideous
Plaugus legit said nuh uh
Now that's what I call plague. This what-if painted a suitable image of Darth Plagueis. Pity for Luke and Leia, they'll have bad time with Plagueis. Assuming Obi-Wan still intending to train Luke to be a Jedi and the Rebellion still pop up out of dissatisfaction and fear with how the Emperor govern.
Sidious would be dead and Tyranus still becomes Sith Apprentice the day Qui-Gon dies.
On that note
Tenebrous also intended to infect the Choosen One with his consciousness
*...What if he did?*
I wonder, if Palpatine had learned essence transfer before Plagueis had taken him over, could Sidious have combated him, or at least fled his body?
What if the sith lord were the good guys and the jedi where the bad guys
This actually does exist, I think it’s called “what if the Jedi and sith swapped” something along those lines
@@LazyPatroller I should probably watch/listen to that.
Depending on the point of view they are and they are😂
Plz do dis one
They are, no changes are needed lol.
Also imagine Plagueous letting Anakin back into his body afterwards waking Ani’s consciousness from the Padme Dream just so he can enter The World Between Worlds would be something to behold ect…. Imagine an alternate universe Palpatine using Sith Lightniyffom 1 of the portals to hurt Anakin still as Vader or Anakin screaming about the Force Visions of Plagueous infiltrating Palpatine’s body ect…… Could you just imagine Anakin wondering if maybe Plagueous is inside him now??? The possibilities with this story are definitely vast for sure.😂😂😂😂
What if Palpatine, after not being able to kill Plagueis, fought an actual, not manipulated war against Plagueis and the CIS?
NGL that does sound like an interesting scenario
What if Count Dooku Joined Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon on Naboo?
Yo your vid’s are ELITE my guy
Keep it up
Thanks, man :)
It's pretty clear Palpatine couldn't kill Plagueis in canon either
Palpatine had to get Plagueis drunk and asleep before just sneaking up and stabbing Plagueis with his lightsaber
that's not how he killed him tho. the light sabre part anyway. have you read the best star wars book ever, that is darth plaguise?
@@Skelstoolbox I know it was Sith Lightning, but Palpatine probably used his lightsaber too for good measures since he knew how powerful Plagueis was
@@jotheunissen9274 well remember in the book it went down as a "breathing mask malfunction" so if he had obvious blaster or lightsabre marks on him, it would be murder, which palpatine didnt want any scandals, having just been elected.
remember he could feel his midochlorians winking out one by one. palpatine said "are you still with us plaguise? yes, but barely, you are asking their midochlorians what they cannot do"
so he would have felt him dying, and enivitably die..
Master Chief (At the End of Halo infinite) in the Battle of Umbara. (Neutral party)
What if anakin never choked padme on mustafar
Wow this was very good omg wayyy better than i expected
What if plagueis succeeded in creating the sith version of Anakin/what if Anakin was the sith’ari
Video this far you truly capture the body snatcher feeling in this
Now Anakin can use a primary sourse in his thesis
What if *every* dark sider and *every* light sider had their morality switched, like in that scrapped Battlefront 3 concept?
Could a pure hearted Chancellor Palpatine save Anakin from the dogmatic and manipulative Jedi? Would the "Jedi" take over the Republic? Would there still be a Clone Wars?
One of the other What If channels did that one. Palpatine and Plagueis, as Jedi in this timeline, exploit a well known fact about the Sith, which is that the Sith always betray one another. They get the Sith to fight each other by making them think that the other Sith have challenged them to a fight over their seat of power in the galaxy. I think it's called 'What if the Jedi and Sith were switched'.
@@mountain_watcher_8730 that video got a laugh out of me. a little light trolling and a 3000 year sith order immediately commits self genocide-
One of the better Plagueis stories though I doubt after a while, healing would take years. Plagueis brought back Venamous back again and again, I assume reasonably quickly. If you can do that for the dead, then healing is small fry with practice. Also wisince the midi-chlorians grant a being access to the Force, Plagueis could tell another person's midi-chlorians to cut off access as well or show fake visions or lower the mind defenses so he can control them like that yinchorri. He just didn't have time and was foolish to field test it while dying and not before.
what if ima gun di and captain keeli survived
I wonder if instead of destroying Darth Vader, simply gave him peaceful rest. Revealing himself as plagieus while he was healing Anakin, utterly destroying his inner compass.
Then offering him peace, to go to sleep and live the life he deserved, only needing to come out when called. His incredible martial skill on tap.
Become the maxichlorian avatar. All the best hosts in store, or even with alchemy able to be given a new body if it served him.
The rule of two replaced with a Pokémon trainer’s PC box of persona.
Ok I got to feel sorry to plagus master, thats a fate far worse than death.
He’s a Sith Lord smh, deserved
@@debutriah2854 Sith Lords are superior to Jedi in every way, in philosophy and in power. The Jedi teachings are irresponsible, they are nothing more than oppressive doctrines made to create religious fanatics.
The Sith at least practice freedom, they don't HAVE to do anything, they aren't servants to any blind or stupid code. They are allowed to feel, to be angry, to be vengeful, they are allowed to be human, that's why they will always be better than the Jedi.
This one was awesome!
Dark side ending indeed
This needs a second part, please make it!
Great Topic!!
You should ask people to subscribe earlier in the video. I've watched you for weeks and just noticed I wasn't subscribed.
Have to lo e Plageus and carrying out his plans
What I hate about "bleeding cristals", is that it unsurprisingly breaks another original cannon lore, how the banished dark jedi got their lightsabers? In the original EU it was synthetic cristals, and it was a good explanation, but now somehow they had cristals or something? Or disney just ignores that part to fit their low effort fanfic?
Well now that's interesting!!! What if Palps had a doubt, hesitation if you will in that night and Plagueis open his eyes burning bright yellow, barking your dog failed!!! The jedi are alive, and the boy might be out of reach. . . . . . . for now, now go Supreme chancellor, go sleep.
And Palatine is left trembling in fear and shock that his master could still had that much power behind and that his master could still kill him.
Not sure if Maxi-Chlorians are real but i sure do hate them
I would think that believing that Padme had forgiven and absolved him would allow Anakin to be at peace enough for the wild card to come into play... As Anakin prepared to release himself from existence, he heard the voice of his Master... Master Qui Gon calling to him... "Anakin... Anakin...Take my hand. Your journey has not ended yet.' "Why are you here, Master?" "Because you need me, Anakin... And also... Those who push the force must learn that the force has a way of pushing back... As Darth Sidious's Master is due to learn..."
Plagueis had won... HE was the chosen one. The Galaxy was his... Until he became aware of a presence. A voice he thought he had silenced... "You're in my life Plagueis... And I've come to take it back."
You forgot Maul
What if Palpatine stopped Vader from trying to throw him into the reactor shaft?
Maybe instead of stupidly trying to use force lighting on Vader, he decided to use Force Crush to immediately disable vader and be free from his grasp, able to kill his traitorous apprentice and Luke.
yeah, he always taught maul to "go for the throat" that a sith doesnt draw out a conflict but siezes it immediately. you're right. he should have force grabbed vader's legs or something, crushed his helmet, gotten dropped onto the floor, then finish or enslave luke.
My theory is that Vader broke Palpatine’s spine when he lifted him up, and that’s why Palpatine screamed.
"Maxi-chlorians"..? SMH.
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