What If Darth Sidious Started a Sith Empire
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Darth Sidious was the dark lord of the Sith and in control of the Empire. What If his Empire was one that was filled with Sith Warriors? How would the Sith assist the Imperial Military? Would the Jedi of the Republic Era be able to stand up to the power of Sidious' Empire? Who would be key players inside of his Sith Empire?
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What if Dooku left the Order to become Chancellor?
Already happened
I as a writer would make him full time Sith becoming more powerfull and knowledable in the dark side. He would have all property and texts from Plagueis, Sidious and others With Ventress as more dark side corrupted and powerfull maybe a bit Vaderesque monster. Rulling trought the dark side. In lighsaber combat was the greatest danger for Sidious according to Damask. All worlds would become puppets bathing in the dark side, food and water changed by Sith alchemy to create perfect obedient servants. Like Byss in legends.
Imagine if for example Ahsoka or Anakin or both were in some way heavilly mutated by the dark side abilities, that would be unnatural, grotesque. Both physical and mental changes, progressive, but they would be just creations of dark side, not too much different inside, same thinking, same people, but heavilly changed. Similar to Massasi or further nutations of the original Sith. It would be curious to see such struggle from their point of view, how would the Jedi, Padmé react to have basicaly a monster instead of the friend you knew. It must be isolating more than Vader's suit. I would feel enormously ashamed. But maybe it would be advantegious?
28:41 imagine walking through the sith temple at night and you have just cut down your master but he is alive inside your brother so you brutally murder your brother only for your master to come from the dead jump out of no where and brutally torture you .
That’s some Star Wars apocalypse shit
For real though, Star Wars can be really spooky but still funny at the same time.
What surprised me the most, is how Sidious technically had more than one apprentice at a time, yet still didn’t make them his loyal students work together
If they worked together , would not that mean they had a bigger chance of banding together and destroy him ?
@@selaucurry6058 almost never happens as too many backstabbing (literally and figuratively) has happened throughout the Sith history.
@@Achuidian179it's possible that he simply _feared_ that it would be the case.
He only has to get unlucky once, and it's easy to set aside differences when there's somebody else to take care of.
Also, given how he killed his own master, he must have been cognisant of the fact that all it takes is a moment's lapsed concentration to be killed. This is part of why I liked Pente Patrol's story where Sidious and Vader die as a battleship crashes into the Senate building (I believe it was "What if the Separatists joined the Rebellion")- it's canon accurate to how Sidious died, and it's a reasonable way for a Sith Lord to die. Caught slipping.
If he has two Apprentices who know about each other, any time they spend together is a risk. Not to mention that it breaks the clear progression of the Rule of Two; Master teaches Apprentice until Apprentice becomes stronger than Master, at which point Apprentice kills Master and finds a new Apprentice. That format was important for the Apprentice, too. They didn't have to fight with somebody at their level, they got a chance to learn from somebody stronger than them for the entire duration, until the point at which they could beat them. Two Apprentices encourages competition, maybe fatal, which would unnerve the Apprentices and make them look for moments where there was a clear difference in power in the two of them (as say with Maul and Tyrannus), at which point they might be powerful enough to defeat their Master together.
Sidious didn't care about the Rule of Two, but he understood its logic. You had to be better than your Master to kill them. Stronger, faster, smarter, luckier even. Something that would hopefully leverage into the next generation needing to be even stronger/faster/smarter/luckier, and so on. It obviously didn't work, up until Tenebres or even Plagueis the Rule of Two Sith were very weak compared to the heights of the Sith before (albeit it may well be they were more cunning and perhaps more capable in many aspects, certainly being Jacks of all Trades, better than Master of One), but it contained an element of truth: you had to best your Master. It means that, save for waiting until somebody dies of natural or outside causes, you have to beat your Master while they are strong than their Master was, and so on, with the few natural causes of wins-by-luck being rare enough to not reverse the flow of progress. But adding a second opponent to the equation would disrupt that. Each Apprentice could be only 60% of the way there to Sidious' power when they try to kill him. He has to worry much earlier, and much more broadly, than he does with one Apprentice. And more, even if they team up and attack him and it goes as well as Savage and Maul on Mandalore, that's a lot of progress you're losing if you're forced to kill both. You don't have to kill both, you could merely beat them, and then force them to fight until one killed the other, but it's Sidious.
Having multiple Apprentices going in parallel was the Sidious thing to do, and it made some sense.
@@MarkusAldawnthe rule of two was near perfect for the sith as you said because the apprentice cannot betray the master until he/she is as powerful or more powerful so overtime the sith grow stronger
@@bodhip Yep.
I will say, that was the Sith's argument in favour of it. Did it succeed? This may just be writers having fun, but the most powerful Sith we know of seem to be pre-Rule of Two Sith, and the most powerful Rule of Two Sith we know of seem not to have killed their master through any strength or cunning, but often just luck. Plagueis killed his master with a falling rock, and he's the one that managed to cloud the force for the Jedi so they couldn't sense him or Sidious. Sidious killed Plagueis by getting him very drunk, and the only reason Plagueis was vulnerable is because he was almost killed by an assassination attempt previously and relied on a breathing mask to live.
Of course the Rule of Two _was_ the plan that eventually led to the Sith conquest of the galaxy, so it did work, but it didn't actually succeed because of the Sith getting more and more powerful. The Sith didn't seem to have an end goal in mind, just accumulate more and more power and wait for opportunities until something shows up. And over ten thousand years it's not surprising something did.
Idea: What if Palpatine brought Maul and Savage back into the fold on Mandalore?
Bernie Sanders: I am once again asking "What if Luminara Unduli was investigated and punished for trying to usurp command of a mission and abandon Ahsoka and Barriss whilst still alive and trapped under the rubble of the Weapons Factory?"
Anakin should ask Yoda to kick her out of the order with full right. Fear of the dark side
Yeah no. Vader doesn't loose to maul.
I’ve got an amazing what if idea:
What if Darth Bane created his own Sith Empire
The basic story is the Bane and 11 other members survived the fall of the old empire. Using Revans Holocron they come up with the system that combines the Rule of Two, Vitiates Sith Empire and Rule of 1 by Darth Krayt. Meaning 1 Emperor (The leader and their Wrath (second in command) 10 other Dark Lords of the Sith. Also every Sith Lord must only have one apprentice no more. When the apprentice completes their training they’ll either rank up to Sith Lord or kill their master. Also adding new ranks and positions to expand their abilities by adding new ranks and evolution the Sith grows more quickly than the rule of two sith.
In this Bane didn't jump into conclusions with Revan's teachings, ne?
@@ThanatosZero yea pretty much
Man youre like a metronome going from a wholesome story to something this dark no in between. That was good
Thank you for not killing darth maul off the start
In a lot of ways, this Palpatine is actually less evil in my eyes. He is actually so successful that many of the atrocities he might have otherwise committed would not have come to pass just because he never needed to carry them out.
What if the First Order HAD learnt from the Empire's mistakes?
What if Mace Windu was more trustful but still skeptical after meeting Anakin?
What if both Vader and Anakin reached their full potential together?
What if Ben Solo never turned to the dark side where he had deep fear of becoming like his grandfather when he became Darth Vader?
What if the force was actually the god of the Star Wars multiverse with the dark side being his evil alter-ego similar to the One Above All and the One Below All?
What if Darth Bane didn’t create the rule of Two but instead turned the sith into the Star Wars equivalent of the Illuminati?
What if Erza Bridger encountered Luke Skywalker while on Tattooine?
What if Luke Skywalker met Padme’s family?
What if the skrulls were apart of the Star Wars universe?
What if Padme gave birth to triplets?
What if Jar Jar Binks was a Jedi?
What if Ahsoka Tano had visions of the events of the sequel trilogy?
What if Luke Skywalker married Palpatine’s daughter?
What if Anakin dealt with the droid attack on the Wookiees?
Exar Kun coming back during clone wars?
This version of the Empire would be so interesting to see them against the yuuzhan vong
idea: what if qui gon had a daughter. what if siri tachi a jedi master who was either a lover or close friend of kenobi ( depends on canon or legends material) trained anakin? siri was a blond woman who was highly skilled in telekinetic powers and was one of the few who could hold her own against dooku in lightsaber duels proficient in form 4 and 5
Evil is a good word for it. Well played
Wait, Plagueis stopped the rule of two in his mind, when he killed his master. He wanted to train Dooku and allowed Maul, Plagueis wanted to teach all to Sidious and have him as equal. He was highly unorthodox and in the behining didn't want to train an apprentice. Also Sidious had issues with the rule of two.
I sense a Disturbance in the Force, the balance has been shifted towards the Dark Side.
So glad you acknowledge Rey as a Sith.
Even if Vader was still not used to the Armour he would have won against Maul
His Power in the force would be just too great for Maul
Wouldn't the empire at large notice that their Emperor never dies
With Immortality Sidious would Literally be Worshipped like a God
The Eternal Sith Empire
Noice as always Pente!
Day: 97: What if Talzin raised Maul?
Day: 28: What if Darth Plagueis trained Maul?
I like the idea of the Sith Empire rising again. Though I do find Maul beating Vader on his own to be kinda a stretch personally but since it lead to the narrative of the three brothers trying to overthrow Sidious but not knowing that Sidious had figured out essence transfer, and thus being unable to actually best him, I am willing to look past that. I also think it's a bit odd for the Jedi to be unable to have killed any of the sith during the fight with Palpatine, but since only the brothers and Vader had any significant impact on the story later it probably didn't matter much.
Also I do wonder how others would think about a scenario where the Sith Empire never truly fell, and the rule of two was never established. Now I'm not saying that the Sith would continue to be out in the open, but I think of it as Bane took those most loyal to him and dedicated to the pursuit of finding the old knowledge of the ancient Sith, and went into hiding, maybe building up in the unknown regions to come back later. In such a scenario Palpatine would have been a part of the Sith Empire, still trying to play his role in the senate but he'd not be the only one, and thus it'd not be a given for him to become chancellor as easily. He'd have to navigate two different political groups, the republic, which wouldn't be much different from what we know it as in that era, and the secret Sith Empire, which due to his strength in the dark side and proficiency in learning he'd have reached a fairly high position, maybe he'd be the Sith Emperor, or maybe he'd be one of the ones that'd be most likely to take the position. Regardless it'd be very interesting, and I did notice there was a video about what if the Sith Empire came back during the clone wars but I've not watched that video and assumed it'd be similar to the beginning of the what if Vitiate came back during the clone wars. I do intend on watching it, but I've just not done it yet.
What if swtor sith empire or eternal empire or eternal alliance appeared during time of the galactic empire from the unknown regions.
I really like this. A lot of other stories have the emperor doing some very foolish things like single-handedly trying to take on 10-20 very powerful opponents. Others just have people like Dooku, able to beat him in one on one combat which while the latter is very powerful is still very much unlikely.
This is probbably my favourite what if
What if anakin turned to the dark side after he avenged his mother and became a sith without palpatine but then came back to the light and defeated palpatine
What if Joseph Stalin was in Star Wars and formed the UISSR (Union of Interstellar Soviet Socialist Republics)
Bro cannot get over the sith clone wars 💀💀
i have an idea: What if the Jedi Order were the same as in the old republic. So more militant and warrior like during the time of the clone wars.
But if Sidious still had many more sith pawns, would he really have sent Anakin to Mustafar after he made him attack the Jedi temple, seems like he would delegate that task to minimise the risk of anything going wrong
Who doesn't love a happy ending
I saw the title and got a lil confused until I saw the word "Sith" in it, lol. 😅
Congratulations, you unlocked THE ULTRA SITH ENDING
What if Palpatine trained Maul, Savage and Feral
What if darth vader went to darthomir to learn. New suit or perhaps more unique powers.
Resurrect talzin maybe.
what if Vokara Che became a mentor to anakin as anakin was being treated for bullying and trauma from being a slave.
What if anakin fell in love with luminara unduli, serra keto or bultar swan.
What if anakin was taught by agen kolar or sasee tin or adi gallia.
What if Jyn Erso fell in love with Luke Skywalker?
What if Leia never stopped her Jedi training?
What if Rey was found by Ochi on Jakku?
What if Kylo Ren remained on the dark side?
What if Luke Skywalker joined the Resistance?
You need to use pong krell more , like what if Pong Krell replaced asajj ventress & savage opress and give him similar armor robes but blue/black w brown grey armor w sith sun and sepratist symbol on gauntlets using same pair hinged of hinged saberstaffs one with twin purple blades & one twin Crimson blades
what if kanan jarrus joined the bad batch
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This one is the best so far!
I wonder why he never did in the original timeline
Can you please do these videos for me?
•What if Anakin vowed loyalty to the Zygerrian queen?
•What if Dooku didn't go to Zygerria and Anakin couldn't escape?
•What if Ashoka fell in love with Anakin, but he didn't fall in love with her?
•What if Ezra and Leia fell in love?
•What if Anakin trained Ezra during the Clone Wars?
•What if Ezra save Mace when he was trying to save Ashoka (World Between Worlds)?
•What if Vader killed Ezra when he tried to kill Ashoka?
•What if Anakin was a full blood Sith?
•What if Ashoka pulled Anakin (from the clone wars) through the World Between Worlds?
•What if Anakin was accused of the bombing at the Jedi temple?
•What if Barriss' goal was to kill Anakin instead of bombing the temple?
•What if Padme adopted Anakin
•What if Maul killed Anakin during the Phantom Menace?
•What if Riff Tamson killed Anakin and Kit Fisto (but Padme, Ashoka, and Prince Lee Char live)
•What if the Son took and turned Obi Wan instead of Ashoka?
•What if Anakin was Jabba the Hutt's slave?
•What if Sabine was unable to get Ezra from Gar Saxon?
Thanks for everything! God Bless!
What if yoda decided to swap the masters of ferus olin and anakin.
So anakin with siri.
Obi with ferus
What if ahsoka and anakin crash landed on bendu's planet. Also what if darth vader joined thrawn in meeting the bendu and went on a spiritual journey back to the dust ball tatiotene.
Honestly think this would have been better if Palpatine if all the other Sith gang up on Palpatine and kill him followed by the Sith all turning on each other and self destructing.
"Maul was able to fight ashoka for the first time since mandalore" Wouldn't that fight not happen here
What if Revan returned during The Phantom Menace? What if Satele returned during the Phantom Menace and trained Anakin? What if Satele returned during The Empire Strikes Back and trained Luke? What if Plo Koon was sent to fight Grievous? What if Malgus returned during the Phantom Menace?
I have an interesting what if for you: What if Darth Vader discovered and rebuilt the Starforge?
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He did make a sith empire...
It just wasn't called that.
He was sith, and he created a galactic empire.
The fact that he didn't let anyone know he was a sith is irrelevant.
Yes and no. The Sith component of his empire is merely just him and Vader. Sure, he makes all the rules, but the Sith as a culture and religion doesn’t get honored or elevated to a position of supremacy. The military treats the Inquisitors as if another branch of the military, not as their masters. The military, especially for people like Tarkin, treats Vader as if an asset that the Emperor bestows on them and not as their Sith master that only sits below the Emperor.
I’ve been playing some SWTOR again and you can see the real difference in hierarchy of the Sith Empire there. Sith are the ruling elites of the empire and they are not hesitant to tell you that. To serve the Sith is considered the highest honor for the military. Grand Admirals and Grand Moffs actually answer to high ranking Sith Lords instead of bossing them around.
Not what I expected
always wondered if instead of Rule of Two the sith made the rule of One Hundred.
Plagues almost did a Rule of One
This and the one where padme is a sith lord are extremely darktimelines
well done. thanks for this
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What if the jedi order decides to allow attachments. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
What if Plaugius found out about Anakin via force vision and that he was born due to his influence
What if the outlander found their way to the clone wars. Outlander could be anyone considering they were the player in swtor.
WHAT IF COMMUNIST WAS IN STAR WARS
It is, the empire is lmao
Define Communist lol
Marxism, Lenninism, Stalinism, Maoism, Viet style, Syndicalism, Totalism etc.
There are lots of ways to distribute economic resources without money after all and Communism only means a rejection of Capitalism, what to do then is a whole different story and reason to fight amongst each other
The same as with any political societal ideas, as 100 people and get 100 unique and often in detail incompatible ideas while still kinda working together
We’ll the type of communist I was thinking is ether Stalin or Lenin type of communist but I was thinking about the Soviet Union you know Russia and stuff but I just never saw communist in Star Wars and I thought it could be kinda cool to see a revolution kind of communist if you know what I mean
What if Lenin was in Star Wars
Rise for the galactic Workers Revulution
What if revan was reborn as the chosen one with all his memories
What if the old republic Jedi were transported to the original trilogy, to be more clear, when revan reborn was around
Best strike team to beat sidious should have been Yoda Windu Plo koon and maybe Quinlin Vos Kit Fisto or Aalya Secura , but Yoda Windu and plo koon would be crazy masters of Ataru shien/Djemso Vapaad
I don’t know if you know much of kotor. But what if the Old Republic had a droid uprising, while also at war with Dath Malak’s Sith empire.
What is HK-47 was leading the Droid Separatist Army
What if Dutches Satine Kryze was force sensitive?
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@@PentePatrolStarWars Thanks' I didn't even know !👍
Awesomeness thank you very evil.... and what a twist no Skywalkers
Have you done a what if dathomir won the battle of dathomir? It wouldn't be hard to explain. mother Talzin was insanely powerful, she matched sidious in force combat and windu in lightsaber combat and had many powerful abilities unique to the nightsisters, from her self homing green lightning to the lightning and blaster proof force bubble she can conjure to her ability to use voodoo dolls. Here is my proposal, Grievous sets off to kill Talzin, grevious and his 4 commando droids arrive at Talzin's hut. Talzin uses telekinesis to hurl grievous straight through the wall, he is not force sensitive and can't do anything about it and she has shown fully capable of casually flying using the force, even palpatine can't do that. With grievous temporarily dealt with she conjures the blaster proof barrier and swiftly knocks down the 4 commando druids with her lightning. She now faces grievous in a 1v1, this is a completely unfair fight, as mentioned earlier, this is someone who matched DARTH SIDIOUS in force combat, and matched MACE WINDU in lightsaber combat, comparing her to grievous is like pitting a jedi against some rando with a lightsaber, even less fair because she has a ranged attack with her lightning, which jedi don't get so she can just blow grievous to pieces from a distance, no problem and even if he can block it with his sabers, this is someone who matched windu in a fight, no way can she lose in a 1v1 against grievous. I also want to see where this goes with ventress, savage and maul, as well as politically, depending on whether her voodoo magic against dooku requires her constant undivided attention or if she can just go back to it later afterwards, with dooku and grievous dead what will palpy do? what will the jedi do? what will the seperatists do? if sidious goes to take out talzin himself it gets even funnier because he is going down if he tries that, she alone is at least his equal in a straight up fight and commands an army of nightsisters, he would die.
What is sidious after revenge of the sith abolished the rule of 2 and trained his entire empire to become a sith leigon? (Just like Darth Krayts Rule of 1)
Is duing the clone wars or empire aera🤔
What if Darth Bane returned in the clone wars
The ending just feels depressing ngl.
What if palpatine decided to rule alongside his master?
what if anakins mum was a sith lord not connected to plagueis or palp and was also secretly training padme and had plans to train her son to take over jabbas empire and the rest of the criminal empires of the outer rim to bring about a new sith empire
anakin would still go with the jedi but it would be to find the rouge sith to kill them and to recruit jedi to become, when the war hits both these tasks become far easier to the point of getting both ashoka and eventually obi-wan (using the idea of him going to marry satine)
The Force just wouldn't let the Jedi die out. It would probably cause a resurgence eventually. We'd probably see a SWTOR situation develop eventually with Luke and Leia, lol. Overall the story is 6/10
How would this empire stand up against the Vong. Also does each Sith get there own SD.
What if The Empire invaded The Federation
Great story of Palpatine had a plan to take the Sith out of the shadows
@dianesinger9729 Yeah, This true about Palpatine.
What if Sidious was killed by Count Dooku?
Ofc Krell joined
An interesting story very well written. Quick question. Are you going to make a light side version of this video anytime soon. Because I'd like to see that. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
A Jedi Empire/Jedi Dominated Republic?
Peak video as always but Vader 20 years in the suit wouln't lose to Vader
What if domino squad survived rishi
What if Cere Junda killed Darth Vader on Jedha?
To me it will always be called Korraban
What if rey fell in love with finn ? Like what should've happened.
Only thing I don’t like is how not a single sith died like come on at least a few would have died to the Jedi
What if the empire and the republic coexisted
So 2 factions in the same galaxy
This is good, all i wanted is for the darkside to win and win as an empire of Sith citizens (Like Darth Viciates Empire) not just rule of two garbage.
What jedi were on the mission?
The Sith Empire 🔥 LONG LIVE THE DARKSIDE
Poor Maul
Yes yes .all finally won he killed kenobi and Vader thank you maul had a good vid-ish
1. What if Anakin Skywalker was born a girl and Padme Amidala a boy?
How would *Revenge Of The Sith* change in this scenario?
2. What if Jango Fett freed Shmi Skywalker instead of Cliegg Lars?
Day 4 of asking-What if Padme rejected the Prisoner Trade and Day 3 Asking-What if Overwatch was a part of Star Wars
What if halo was in Star Wars
Cool
Does this guy us AI to make his videos?
Did Savage beat Plo Koon or did he kill him b/c Plo Koon never dies, under that fact. LOL. Hey "What if Cade Skywalker came back after The Empire Strikes Back and stayed through to the end of Return of The Jedi?
Spoiler!!
Ahsokas death was such bullcrap bro she shouldnt have died like that
This guy does anything he can to dog on anakin
He's not a fan of the Chosen One prophecy because of the plot armor and how restrictive it is for his story telling. He's only doing these what ifs because of his patrons. He's just mad he can't tell stories set in the Sequels era because of his audience. Also dude is a massive soy boy.
@@jasonmcallen8954 wait, does this content creator actually like the sequels?
Yum.
IM I SANE BELP
plagueis said i understand my apperantice why you want more sith like in past didyou nnow not first rule of sith
Sidious said yes master you say that thier only be two sith not more because dont make sanme misteak as past
plagueis said exactly we do not repeat are misteak like we did in great galactic war with emperor vitiate and darth malgus
Sidious said understan master but sith in past had multipull sith lord and sith warriors and inquisitors and Sith Acolyte
plagueis said i do agreed would be good idare have sith army how ever you have to do that my apperantice sins i dont want another student
Sidious said yes my master i understand i will folow the path darth malgus and malek well you lead path of emperor vitiated and dark bane
Only thing with this story is that vader would have won