RIP League Cheaters
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2024
- In less than two weeks, Riot will be globally releasing Vanguard for League of Legends and this new anti-cheat might wipe out a lot of cheaters in the game.
But they’ve also shared just how many cheaters League has had in recent years and the results are, well, disturbing.
So how bad is it? And will Vanguard really save the day?
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LoL: 1 Cheater in 5 games... Cs2: Hold my beer.
its 1 cheater or botter
which makes the stat entirely useless, they also said that its majority on cn and kr servers which we already know is popular since if you are not a kr citizen, you can't even play on kr servers
Cs: 5 cheater in 1 game :(
CS2: 5 cheaters in 1 game lmao
@@namo2403 its even dumber to cheat in korea or china bc you can't craete an accout without your ID lol imagine if we needed an ID to play league how people would get mad while in those wonderfull countries they won't even complain lol
@@raamy2426 i think you might be missing the point
thats why there are so many bots in kr, its because foreigners can't just make their own account, so they have bots farm lvl30 kr accounts to sell
and anyone can create an account in cn, you just need a QQ id which can be spoofed easily but same applies here
just sell lvl30 account to foreigners who want to play on cn super server
1 in 15 cheaters ? Thats a bargain for CS players
1 in 15 games, granted there is a 10 people lobby, so it's more of a 1 in 100 to 1 in 146 people actually using cheats.
I'll just guess about 1 in 120 is a scripter i guess, which is enough to infect this amount if games, so even like a 1% cheating population is a problem...
i would 100% play those odds
@@spencerdaugherty311 the scripting is happening mostly in high elo where its like 2-4% of the player base is so now if 1-15 of the are cheating that is just can*cer
its also an inflated number bc they also counted bot accounts, which is waaaaaaay more than regular cheaters, i'd say 1/10 at least
@@chowchow4642 i kinda disagree yes i think the anticheat is overkill but the numbers make sense if ghe cheater's are mostly in high rank where a small portion of players reside i can see the 1 in 15 being legit
Even LoL have their working ac right now. What a shame for cs players.
valve doesn't need anti cheat,but need more player
@@NatraPutraEsayou don't need brain,but need less talk
Honestly I am not happy about CS2s current situation either but personally I would take cheaters over yet another rootkit. Vanguard will work temporarily until a majority of cheaters switch to hardware level hacks. Valve seems to be actually developing solutions to that, which I am honestly excited about.
@@NatraPutraEsa they already had more bot player LUL
@@Dhalucario as a hardcore cs player of many years i wish i had that copium
Thank you comment section, now I can just uninstall and be the last person to leave league in the group I started with.
Sooooooo when is cs2 getting one too?
when valorant gets a replay system
They might release it in a case
A Chinese spyware?
never lol
valve only wants your money not your privacy
these statistics are skewed because it INCLUDES botting, I very rarely encounter cheaters/scripters. but if you make a new account and level it with CO-OP gamemode you will never see another human. your team is 4 accounts being leveled by bots and obviously the opposing team is game's own bots.
Oh well I guess I won't be playing League anymore, the last thing I need is Vanguard on my PC.
It made my Laptop almost unusable back when I had it for Valorant.
yes why is no one talking about this bra all theses bots just content milken this news its so sad that real people dont make content any more
The scripting isn't as bad as the TROLLERS! The toxic community. That shit made my quit league.
for real... you'd get into promos and people would see this and troll on purpose.
I haven't climbed particularly high, but I think I've encountered one troll in my 100 games of ranked, that I noticed at least.
Most of the time people troll you because you're being toxic, that's what happens in draft pick at least. I could imagine higher ranked players "knowing" when a game is over and feeding to get it over with sooner though. But even this seems to not be that common.
I was only playing a little bit of TFT these days (LoL community just being anoying AF). I don't need vanguard for TFT. So uninstall it is.
🙏🏽
TFT mobile it is
@@javi4591 thought the same on mobile at least for tft u can bypass vanguard
TFT isn't any better. You play against 5 wintrading premades anways.
@@Guckmalparty maybe in pisslow yeah. but as long as you have solid fundamentals, it relatively easy to get to high Diamond/Masters so it doesn't even matter.
Vanguard keeps running on your system even if you don't open the game. It's extremely invasive. I'd rather have something like Faceit anticheat, which is also a kernel level anticheat but only opens with opening the game and not on boot.
just shut down vanguard and restart your computer... it literally takes less than a minute
@@namo2403 But WHY do you need an AC running ALL the time? Thats the real question
@@northernpolaris9895 Realistically its because any cheat that is active pre-launch of the ac already bypassed it and you can simply spoof it. This means regular ac like eac and faceit are completely useless, if you have an ac that launches at the start of your windows boot, it makes spoofing much harder. It also mean that in order to cheat, you would have to go the extra mile via dma as compared to downloading a lua script and being able to cheat in faceit
As much as people would say "JuSt DeVelOp AI aNtIcHeAt", well... until a major title game actually does implement it and show that it actually works, then that can be brought up to the conversation.
Yeah you got no clue what you're talking about. Faceit and vanguard actually run in the EXACT same manner. Both are active on startup.
And.. so what if vanguard always running? It’s riot, not any other unknown company. I have been playing Valorant since the start, have never minding about ‘How invasive Vanguard is’.
It’s just a here we go again moment for me 😂
then the smurfs next. Completely ruins a match like an adult playing basketball with a bunch of preschoolers and telling them they suck.
Weird story. This stat is inflated since most botted games are played by account leveling bots for the account selling market, which is the main reason Riot pushes vanguard
Scripting doesn't seem as impactful, unless I've been fooled this entire time. I feel like when I lose, I got outplayed (or camped, ha!) rather than feeling cheated.
Compared to CS, I can tell when somebody is cheating vs really good.
That's how bad scripting in League is. With script, they can see there u have vision, and land and dodge skill shot almost every single time, and u just thought you were outplayed. Whereas in CS, yoi can at least tell they are Cheating and just give up the game. At least that's the case for me. If I noticed someone is hacking on my CS game, I will just play like I am in practice mode and chill.
@@austinfu2102scripting in league gives a small advantag and very few ppl actually script its not a problem
Have you come across those rotating adcs? They kite so fast that they start rotating.
Or those people you just can't hit with skillshots, you need to be at point blank to have a chance of hitting them. And so much more. My favourite scripter moved synchronically to my movements to stay just a tad out of my attackrange - I was in the bushes, no teemo there, no wards.
tencent not launching the anti cheat in their country is kinda sussy ngl
Because of win11 requierments !
They have their own cheat detection system.
In China they will arrest cheater if they know your ip.
Have u ever heard of Tencent's own Anti-Cheat called Tenpertect?
A programme which scans your whole fking computer and hard disck when u launch the fking game.
Vanguard seems very gentle in terms of privacy compare to tenpertect.
Online accounts in China are directly linked to your government ID. The only cheating that occurs in China is government sanctioned.
I hate how everyone missinterpret it. It's NOT that every 1 in 15 games have scripter. It's that 1 in 15 games have scripter OR botter. And scripters are like
Found the scripter.
@@MrMistyEyeshe is right riot has a massive problem with trolls and afks but not with cheaters
People have been auto-cleansing stuns for years. Not only did you ahve to deal with shitty teammates but also cheaters on the enemy team.
scripting wasnt rlly a big deal, unless you are master+ elo, numbers riot showed are inflated by bot cheats. also if you cant insta cleanse shit you should get hands man
@@chowchow4642 bro. Im talking about humanely impossible insta cleanse but you wouldn't understand since you use shit like porofessor and other garbage to give you an edge in-game.
@@chowchow4642 Consistent In Diamond 2 and above, sure. Consistent Insta-cleanses in Gold 4? GTFO lmao. Frameless, instant-cleanses are extremely difficult. Don't act like its a staple of the game that is mandatory to pull off every time.
@@chowchow4642 You realize insta cleanse is frame perfect. Like no down time at all. That isn't human.
@@narhwallord6985 i mean if you follow any fgc people do tons of just frame stuff
"made riot's code hard to read" thats an anticheat? i thought that was normal.
Pretty sure most of the "Cheaters" in statistics are just smurf bots.
In less then 2 weeks I need to stop cuz vanguard still overrides my graphic card fans so they stop working. Don’t know if some more people had the problem. Had to reinstall Valo and of course Vanguard and never touched it again. Played for 12 years never so a cheater and now I can’t play. ☺️ nice time to quit
played league for fourteen years, this anti cheat is what made me quit
in less than 2 weeks this will kill off any linux players. not just cheaters.
Oh no…..
Anyway
I feel like the “1 in 15” or “1 in 5” cheating numbers came out on purpose by Riot as a way to get people to accept Vanguard being installed onto their PC’s. Ive been playing league since season 2 and i cant remember 5 games where I’ve had cheaters with or against me. Thats just my personal experience tho.
That’s for sure. Also the way the stats are presented is dishonest, by including bots in the 1 in 15 number you make it worthless.
Been playing for about as long and I think I've probably experienced roughly the same amount of cheating. If more people were cheating than I thought, then I guess there were a bunch of people who cheated in a way that didn't feel particularly unfair in a way that was noticeable.
I actualyl see that 1 in 15. no joke.
In low elo, it's more of a bot problem. I remember when I was gold 5+ seasons ago, that bots in norms but mostly aram ruined games. In higher elos (eg. my master games), I encounter a obvious scripter once a week and as jng, I'm sometimes so confused on how they know my exact position in fog of war, perma pings throughout all the game and it really makes U wonder if they were cheating
@@PartyMain I never see a LoL script that has MH before, all I know about LoL scripts is that, it tracks down the skills and spells CDs, neutral cs respawns, auto dodge projectile skill(if the caster or the projectile was visible on the map), auto combo, auto ignite when enemy was low hp, auto flash for dodging, auto zhonya, autoheal (spells), auto wave clear, and auto last hit cs.
1 Cheater in 15 Games on average? And that's supposed to be a lot? I highly doubt it. Totally chill.
Thor summed it pretty much on his stream regarding AC and Ban systems.
They usually dont just ban in small waves instead in big waves that banned ten if not hundred thousands account in single ban wave, furthermore they need to solve the vulnerabilities in their game first before going with ban waves.
You dont need invasive Kernel level AC for your games.
Yeah, even tough I am one of the Vanguard defenders, I also think its a bit excessive that kernel level AC exist.
1:57 "scripter win rates sit at around the 80 percent mark which is usually a win rate reserved for smurfs or Korea vs. NA at worlds" what an insult to Koreans
This stat is only that high bcs they are smurfing to bcs their old acc got banned riot just selling something that really isnt needed
I cannot see this actually fixing this game.. toxicity, trolling and smurfing are the real issues with this game. Even if people are cheating with scripts like rats, they do not know how to use them properly imo. if your not good enough to actually learn a game and become even some what decent at anything, your going to suck at cheating with it as well imo
fuck vanguard, im not having that shit running on my computer 24/7 even when the game isn't running
then just turn it off?
@@ceadeusx how?
@@neojist8422 You can always disable the driver whenever you'd like-you'll just need a fresh reboot to "recertify" the integrity of the trust chain before you jump into game. - The dev blog post. i dont have vanguard installed so i cant say how the driver is called i thing something like "vgc" u can disable it or even uninstall vanguard completly...
@@neojist8422 by not playing this horrible game
@@neojist8422 you can shut down vanguard and restart your pc. If you want to play league you just start up vanguard and restart your pc. Pretty easy.
1 in 15 games. Interesting. 8 years playing and ive only seen like a handful
Yeah but there are ALOT of games being played at the same time so even if 1 in 15 is correct the odds that u will be in 1 of them is less then that, and thats assuming u notice it in the first place. The vast majority of ppl playing with cheaters probadly have no ide they are doing it.
Its bots that infalte the stat bcs in blind pick u have lots of lvling bots
explains it. I never play blind pick
Vanguard is literally no better than non level kernel anti cheats. Why would I want a company that is majority owned by a Chinese company to have kernel level access to my computer?
Because you have channels like this paid by Riot Games to spread shit like 'amg cs2 so much haxors, but valorant is good bro xD'.
When in reality, all games have the same amount of cheaters. What determines which games have slightly more than others, is when the game is more popular, nothing else.
@@draken5379 delusional
Same way you use Chinese devices. You’d be surprised on a lot of the services or sites that are Chinese owned.
Just tell us you're afraid of china lil bro
@@cheshirest9067 Tencent has an agreement with China where it must give all of its users' information to China and Riot is 100% owned by Tencent
Okay I have legit seen no one mention this, but doesn't ANYONE besides me find it weird that they lumped scripters and botted accounts into the same "cheaters" graphs and data? I'm assuming it's a strategy to try and make people more comfortable with Vanguard by being able to say "look guys there's a cheater 1 in 10 games we really need this!!!" when in reality the 'cheater' in 90% of those games isn't a scripter, but just a smurf who bought a botted account for $2.50 to play on... I have absolutely no issue with Vanguard and I'm actually excited to have even fewer cheaters in LoL, but Riot trying to convince people who think otherwise by lumping botted accounts in with real scripters is just disgusting to me.
it's literally propaganda to push their spyware into people, mac and linux will still run league without vanguard lmao
All the same. Smurfs are cheaters, too. They cheat the system and break ToS by buying accounts. Smurfs have no prestige or high ground, they're not better than filthy cheaters so I'm not too upset that they deservedly lump them in with scripters, even if it falsifies the statistics. Hell, I'd love much more derogatory terms for those two groups of people, like 'offenders'. Feels like a necessary sacrifice at this point to give deterring titles to bad people so they're shamed in public.
yes i thought the same inflating real numbers with FRESH boted acc playing the game maybe even including boting to lvl 30 with blind games boted acc = cheater "bot"
Scripts and bots that play the game are run via the same execution; the same program that loads cheats also loads bots, which to Riot is indistinguishable when it comes to looking at the data. They don't look to see what each account was doing, they just detect scripts and ban them. That's why the data is lumped together.
That 80% winnrate also isnt bcs of cheats its bcs of smurfing
You just can't simply trust riot saying 1-15 bla bla bla
I do not, nope. Every patch is nerf/buff/change patches because they cant ever get something right or even near correct.
i mena if you count botted accounts in the cheater category thats kind of non sense, those are just bought accounts lvl 30
6:16 You literally said earlier in this very video why, they already have an anticheat working on Chinese servers.
yeah but IDK MAN chinese company lying about cheating in other regions to convince people to install a rootkit that is completely different from whats in china/korea is a LITTLE CONCERNING LMAO
well i bet Chinese method would probably be illegal in most western countries,total control and monitoring of everyone on internet.
The anti cheat is basically forcing people to link their ID with their accounts
@@dieptrieu6564and yet it works
@@dieptrieu6564nah, the CN server AC scans your whole fking computer, yes, all your drives are scaned in the background wile ur gaming on the CN server. The ID linking is for other purpose.
that 1 in 15 games is padded. That number includes any and all accounts that they believe have been ever levelled by bots in vs ai games and then are purchased by players as alt accounts / after their main has been banned to skip the manual levelling process that sucks. stop falling for the bait, you're supposed to be better.
Found a scripter.
@@MrMistyEyes :(
Already uninstalled League. Proud Silver player, no cheats, Honor level 4. Was a new player trying to learn the game, but I'm not going to continue to spend time or support a company that uses invasive software like this. Won't be surprised if cheaters will be more prevalent cause cheaters will try to "beat the system" and will see Vanguard as a challenge. Thank you for making these videos and informing us.
lower amount of cheaters ? yeah that would be nice but I uninstalled leag few months back as statement because I don't want anything as invasive as vanguard on my pc .
I'm not a cheater, but I'll leave LoL when Vanguard is active. I don't want kernel-level virus to play a couple of games.
Ummm, exit vanguard? Is it that hard to do? Thats what i do when i dont play valorant, exit vanguard and when i want to play it again i just reboot my PC. And faceit has the same anticheat for years, whats the problem with vanguard now?
@@_Drekavac_ yeah... i don't play faceit, and no, i don't want to restart my pc every time i stop playing a game
@@newbieanon you dont have to restart when you stop? Just exit vanguard when you are done playing with Valo or LoL? Is it that hard to do 3 clicks?
@@_Drekavac_ it's hard to have a kernel level spyware, i will not install something that have total access to my computer
Your bad, enjoy fighting cheaters while i had 2 cheaters in over 600h of valorant (both got banned mid game)
I've been playing league super casually since beta. I uninstalled the moment I heard vanguard was coming to it. It caused so many issues with my PC with Valorant that I'm not even going to bother with it anymore. Sad that the account I've had so long and invested so much money on skins is left to rot now.
Sell it! XD
Finally some one with the same. Same here mate it just fucks with my graphiccard. If it was just running while we play LOL ok maybe, but it runs all the time and I can’t play shit anymore. I feel ya and maybe we rly should sell that shit hole game account and be free from the company who drains souls
@@amadedeus bruh just exit the vanguard when you're done bruh ez as that, and if you want to play then restart. How is it hard to do? waiting for basically 30 secs. People nowadays are lazy as fuck
The only valid reason against vanguard i see in those comments.
@@ImRaiz0That’s not an argument. If you are already assuming Vanguard will do malign things - or more likely, security holes in Vanguard getting abused by a third party - you are fucked the very moment it runs once. After that you technically can’t trust the off-switch.
So now people just regularly hack the game, boost or wintrade more. Aint fixing shit plus people without a good setup cant play anymore, lose lose scenario
a lot of people in the philippines are complaining about vanguard unfairly banning and making the game bug out
I don't think I've ever heard anyone complain about cheaters in LoL. It was always teammates being complete trash or soft inting.
can it detect trolls too? need them outta there
no sadly
Will work for a few weeks then it will follow the same trend as in Valorant or other games with kernel level anti cheats
Those stats are are skewed because they include botters not just scripters lmfao. The only thing Vanguard is doing is getting rid of the last rational players in the League playerbase. Vanguard is an absolute joke on every front.
CS with a crazy 3 in 1 games having a cheater
Funny fact, China server will not have this ac, maybe because tencent already has their user info...
I think it's because players in China and Korea use their government-issued IDs to create their accounts so they don't risk using cheats.
How can you say cheating is not region specific but then in the same breath say "in eastern countries we see higher rates of scripting". Show us the numbers because I cant trust any of this PR talk after those lines.
read it again
@@ceadeusx what are you trolling? It literally says In eastern countries we see highe rates of scripting because they're getting spillover from cheaters in China and Korea...... ergo other eastern countries so once again you cant say no region cheating when you then say you are seeing HIGHER RATE of cheaters in eastern countries.
@@Torbarian because cheating is not region specific. Every region has cheaters. some eastern region have more not because this region cheats more but because regions close to them are harder to cheat so a part of other region cheaters are instead playing on vietnamese servers for example. this does not mean that vietnamese are more likley a cheater then an european or american. Thats what this article wanted to point out. I thought thats obvious...apparently not
I would find it extremely worrying when the company is more concerned and pushing anti cheat solutions while player base is somewhat unconcerned, especially with access given by those measures can give all sort of useful things to a country that is famous for IP theft and 1984 level of population control.
I noticed you hide your hair now, is it because someone pointed it out in the comments before? it looked good dude
Not everyone is blessed by the follicular gods like Dimitri
they dont release it in china because it would ban all chinese esports players
There are still cheaters on Valorant even with Vanguard on. Nothing stops a cheater unless they're applying strict sanctions as what Asian countries do.
honestly tho, having ur credentials linked to your account would make your gaming account have more meaning to it, as controversial as it may be.
RIP League, it was a nice 15 years. Imma miss ARAM.
Same. Aram farming chests > skins for years now and I've managed to collect about 100skins as F2P. Rip
the issue is even vanguard is getting fucked by cheaters now...
nah in val most likely they get banned in the half of the game
are those cheaters in the room with us right now?
So they release vangaurd but have no solution to already being hacked and server info and source code taken? Crazy how much acess they are asking players to give them whilst not even being able to keep basic security under control.
I will be uninstalling league to avoid another useless root kit, that only puts my pc at jeopardy based on the security at a company, riot is litterally being hacked snd t1 can't play the game becuase of a hack of their client, a root kit doesn't fix the fact that people are back ended this game right now and giving these malicious people a target of a compermisable root kit on all computers is scary to say the least
I'm still waiting for footage of a cheater being detected posted on UA-cam
Cheater vs Spyware
Both is a lose lose situation 😂
Can riot fix the fucking client first?
Best comment here lol. I love it when the "Play" button doesn't work on a game client. How ironic.
Wonder what will happen with Intro level bot games, where 100 out of 100 games have bots in it, probably going to have much longer queue times.
they are saying higher cheater number than there actually is just to justify their spyware
oh do you mean the root kit they are using ?
Someones not informed here...
@@ceadeusx and that's you. Look up a root kit and contrast it to vanguard
@@Aisen_ "A rootkit is a collection of computer software, typically malicious, designed to enable access to a computer or an area of its software that is not otherwise allowed." Vanguard is not malicious, and does not enable access to areas that are not allowed. U can make an argument against those claims but for that u need to have proof and not just: "I think". I see where this comes from but without any proof there is no reason to say its a root kit.
@@ceadeusxthats very informative, i honestly don't care if vanguard takes my data or not. so worth than having cheaters in a game and besides there's nothing to lose because I haven't done anything illegal and use my pc only for gaming. can't say the same for many gamers with interesting tastes that are legally questionable
@@skittles1975 tbh they would not care about ur data unless u have classified documents stored on your pc. Every other relevant data is already in their hands. And like i said 1000 times. If they would want to collect your data they simply could do it from the league client. there is no adventage of using a kernel to do it. This whole argument of stealing data is just a witch hunt of people who dont know stuff. Thats whats triggering me :D
"We're planning to turn on vanguard for all regions (except china)" I've not played this shit for 10 years (thank god) and this sounds like some sus shit, quit boys and girls
Go away, shooo Tommy shoo
china doesn't need spyware on league they already have it through every other source.
Because china already has an seperate anti cheat which was also mentioned in the video...
@@ceadeusx then you question, why?
@@CrazVidz because China couldn't rely on League's antique anticheat, since cheating there is LITERALLY A CRIMINAL OFFENSE
This is good but in philippines we keep getting disconnected like the same issue before. RIP LP
You mean "the bad or the worse news". It's bad news that there so many cheaters in leaegue, but its even worse that they think introducing their rootkit is a good idea. vanguard ist NOT a good idea.
Vanguard can kick rocks, not putting that shit on my computer, guess I won't be playing League anymore.
You have 0 clue about vanguard but if that mindset helps u stop playing league then its for the better i guess :D
@@ceadeusx It has more access to my pc than I am comfortable with, do I need more of a reason to not want that shit on there? Literally malware, so yea, it can fuck off.
Good riddance, bye Felicia
@@ceadeusxThey have more clue than you, that’s for sure 😂
Bye bye
Till this day no one complained about cheater probably on NA while on the asia side we see less cheater even i have never seen a cheater this makes me wonder what is their actual goal are plus the 24/7 kernal anti cheat is unreasonable
Good call testing it out on the Philippines as a player here I can attest the rot cheating has done on queues.
i would guess with all the spillover its prob one of the 1 in 5 games - region
dont be proud my guy, riot is owned by tencent in china and they launch vanguard amidst the growing conflict in west ph sea, you know the rest of the story
My issue with vanguard is that it runs on startup of my PC, whether I've logged into the game launcher or not. And I'm about to test this in a minute, but it looks like if you go into task manager and shut it off manually, when you finally are ready to boot up the launcher it won't let you go to the game until you've restarted your computer. Meaning the only way to log into the game is to allow this anti cheat software to run on your pc at all times, even when you don't need it, unless you restart your computer *every time you want to play a Riot game.* I love League of Legends, but if this keeps up, I probably won't be keeping anything Rito on my computer for much longer. I might not even make it to Project L's release
thank you tencent for helping me quit.
if league has that much cheaters i wonder how bad is it in dota? we all know valve dont do shit
League is definitely worse still
Its complete bs, riot is inflating the numbers to damage control the hate towards vangaurd.
I played 2000 hours in Dota 2 and never met a cheater
they dont, riot is inflating the numbers
@@Okami400you ever played the game
Vanguard is not a way to end with cheats forever. Vanguard is a way to save millions in staff by not needing humans to manually check cheating allegations. It may work better, and it can be updated if required, but money is the motivation. Selling data is the biggest business nowadays, another monetary reason.
Reality is, you will never have a game with no cheat, and you have no secret to those monopolies anyway.
meanwhile i can't find any scripts that work
If they know there is 1 cheater in 15 games how do they know when they are saying the current anti cheat is not working ? so the numbers are a lie and the anti cheat is not working or the anti cheat ist working and they know there is 1 in 15 games then there is no need for vanguard becouse they can already detect the cheater so for me it smeels like a reason to install shit vanguard
manual reports and long term data
@@VicarioussChallenger i would assume long term data can only be collected if the ac is working otherwise the data is worth nothing. and if they have the capacity to Review all manual reports then ac would not be needed.
i'm surpirised that after 14 season, now Riot only realised there's a lot of cheaters?!
bro didn't watch the video
Nah. They always knew, they just never bothered to do literally anything. Like always. Cheating in high elo in season 11 was rampant. DDOSing was rampant. Wintrading was also rampant with so many people exposing and giving proof. Riot did absolutely nothing.
So did they also fix the ddos problem? Would be a shame if it happened at msi.
No 😂
do we believe them saying 1 in 15 people cheat? seems convinient excuse to drop an anticheat that is that invasive
1 in 15 games -> less than 1% of players
That one game can have more than 1 cheater, so that screws the calculations
@@heatseeker9573
It sounds like it screws the calculations, but it doesn't.
"1 in 15 games has a cheater" -> 1 cheater in 150 players.
If it was more than 1 player, it wouldn't be "1 in 15 games".
2 players out of 150 players -> 1 player in 75 players -> 1 in 7.5 games has a cheater
All in all it's a great excuse for tencent to get even more of your info, because you are encouraged to let Vanguard run even more in the background. Win - win for them. So don't forget to close down Vanguard every moment you are not playing rito stuff. Restarting your PC is better than letting them sell your info!
Why isnt Temu using a kernel if their whole business is based on selling your information?
Tell that to the people with apps and games on their phones, where we have our most valuable info: our bank accounts, our pictures, our conversations, sometimes even our ID. If people are worried about some anticheat spying on their computer, then they should also be worried about the games and apps they install. Some of them don't have anticheats and have been proven to steal sensitive data.
If your worried about vanguard having krnl access close it if your not playing and when your playing have nothing else open
its not about "i dont want to see them what i do on my computer"... its about i want to know what they do on / with my computer. and since anti cheat has kernel access it can do everything and hide it from you. so in theory you can mine bitcoin while its running, or worse getting used as a botnet for ddos attacks or even worse things, like hosting child pornography on your computer for the internet. just some possibilitys mentioned.
Alot of work with a lot of room for error for an anticheat that wont even do shitt except planting a rootkit on ur pc
Funny that when vanguard has been rolled out in PH, it's been disconnecting players for a few days already
I won't install Tencent's spyware on my computer. Going to quit league instead.
so this is why when i would be doing climbs i would notice some of the plat and emerald players dodged better than diamond and master players...it makes more sense now.
Unfortunately, all it does is raise the paywall needed for cheating, just like in Valorant. There are plenty of cheaters in Valorant, plenty who get away with it for months or years. Even for League, it's just raising a paywall, not stopping anything, as Vanguard is already known, and it's already bypassed, and several league cheats have already bypassed it from when it was on PBE, and now on the PH region that it's already active on, meaning it's already bypassed for when it hits the rest of the regions.
But they mention in the article they published that this is one of the objectives. Raise the paywall for cheats so there are less people buying them. And yeah, it is probably already bypassed, but remember, PirateSoftware said that cheats and ac are always an arms race between them. They bypass Vanguard, and suddenly Vanguard bypasses them, and the cycle goes on and on.
that's good.
costs more to buy cheats, cheat developers make less money, less cheats out on the market, less cheaters in game.
yeah it can be bypassed, but as long as it's harder to cheat it's working.
CH scripters on PH servers are nuts. Not only I experience missing all my skill shots, I also experience competitive racism.
Will League's scripting problem be stopped by Vanguard? Probably not. Will it stop the infestation of levelling bots farming co-op to sell once they hit level 30? Most likely.
maybe leveling bots. But cheap smurfs will still be there. there is always a poor country where u can put people infornt of an pc and let them "bot" accounts for very cheap. Scripting has to be seen tho. I dont think that the current script platforms will survive but league is one of the most popular games in the world and is free to play....there is so much money to be made with scripting...there will eventually be a new platform
@@ceadeusxthere is already scripts rhat bypass anticheat
"RIP lol cheaters"
for like.... a week... 1 month tops
cmon! you CANT BE THIS NAIVE
This is a "cat and mouse" game and has always been. There are really smart devs on boths sides so yes venguard will be bypassed in some matter then vanguard fixes it, then it will be bypassed again and so on. Its an never ending cycle
I'm not sure how the cheaters will get around the hardware ban.
There will always be cheaters. But now, they are detected faster.
@@sinsei2165delusion
@@liberphilosophus7481 it's easy to temp spoof your hwid, don't worry
Game companies need to stop giving up and submitting us to information abuse
I've had a bot in my OCE games ever after vanguard went live. It's slowed them down but it hasn't stopped them yet
The CIA must be very glad to hear that millions of US citizens voluntarily give china kernel lvl access to their pc 😅
The CIA has backdors in windows...as if they care about if china can now see which porn sites u open? Which they dont need kernel access to by the way. But i guess its hard to argue with people who dont understand shit.
pyke q
in 2 weeks its time to leave league.
Edit: quit. Enjoy chinese spyware
have left since January and havent gone back since and won't go back ever again😂
In the end it doesn't matter which Antichat LOL has, as long as VANGUARDS code isn't 100% perfect, other than more people getting banned, not much will change.
Hey everyone, just wanted to share my experience dealing with Riot Games' Vanguard anti-cheat system and the censorship I faced on their subreddit. I raised concerns about Vanguard's continuous background operation and possible privacy implications, only to find my post deleted and myself banned from the subreddit. It's disheartening when genuine concerns are silenced like this. Anyone else encountered similar issues?
I keep reading people in the comments say every 15th game has a cheater, you guys do know they also count botted accounts that are levelling bot games etc. your low elo games were not cheating infested guys, you are not stuck in gold cause of scripters.
Additionally, i think vanguards a good addition but id like to keep custom skins
Well, another game I’ll never play again!
No anti-cheat should have access to a computers kernel.
Tbh I hope they use vanguard to punish players cross accounts. Literally 80% of people who ragequit and intentionally run it down are below lvl 50 in emerald which means they basically bought a new account.
Buying a ney account shouldn't be a free card to troll. If anything it should be harsher
anyone know why vanguard isn't deployed in china? cuz it's been said that china is one of the more scripter heavy servers, it doesn't make sense not to deploy it there
In a separate post, it was stated there is a different anti-cheat system being ran there in accordance to laws and such.
No, vanguard is just a spyware now. LoL will still be like Valorant. Because Valorant is still plagued with cheaters even with that sh*tty Vanguard.
cheaters are most likely banned in half of the match
I saw a video recently which disused cheats and there was even Valo cheats which are nearly undetectable right now so idk
@@YepN_ I've been fine for over 40 games
cheating will still exist even with vanguard
Not as many
way less though unlike cs2
@@marchaoz9649 faceit works with valve so in a way they have 2 anti cheats. the one of better players faceit, works vary well. spin bots are a no go and hackers get a ban that day with a elo return. its not really a 3rd party app if they run the faceit anticheat in tournaments
Lesser cheater is better than more
Actively trying to reduce cheaters is better than letting them do their own thing (I'm looking at you CS2)
Riot : Vanguard Make it anti cheat better
Valve CS2: What is anti cheat ? never heard of it
I dealt with a maokai auto cleansing my morde ult top lane until I called him out in all chat with a couple fancy paragraphs, then he stopped and my ult worked for the rest of the game, needless to say after a report he still got banned lmao