This Monitor Gives You Cheats
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- Опубліковано 22 бер 2024
- From pings to actual pseudo-wallhacks, MSI’s new monitor comes with built-in generative features that provide players with extra information about their opponents’ whereabouts. And let’s just say, it’s already sparking a ton of debate.
There’s no denying that these features are useful - the question is whether they’re a little too useful.
Is MSI’s AI-infused display a way to basically buy over-the-counter cheats and what could it mean for the future of esports?
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so the whole "he just have a better gaming chair" is slowly becoming a thing a now
Soon chairs will have GenAI to adjust your posture depending on the current situation on the match
@@cheshirest9067i would love to see that. For one it helps with posture of course but you will also see people like xqc sitting with his feet up on the desk getting launched out of his chair
Wait until it becomes a suite with AI headphones that make sound cues to alert you to these AI predicted outlines (maybe even an equip sound of their weapon to give info). "He just has a really good headset"
@@cheshirest9067 my self processing Secret Labs AI gaming chair is gonna hold my head and plant it as near to the screen as possible in order to help me focus with a 10% increase in performance
Dont exaggerate please, better gaming chair would be the final boss of this situation, luckily its just about a better monitor for now.
This is basically doping in esports
That's a perfect way to put it
funny thing is half the players are already dopping
except you can just provide normal monitors on LAN so the big events will be normal anyways
This destroys the experience for regular players, which is the core of the game.@aninnocent1544
It’s seemingly worse.
10 years later... "Story of a monitor that ENDED competetive gaming"
You mean improved?
@@Swimmingpoolinaswimmingpool No, ended.
You know that they can ban that monitor and there is no mention of it anymore?
@@marcinchreptowicz6843 I can spoof my monitor EDID into being some other monitor as far as my PC is concerned. how can you then detect me using this monitor? you cant. see the problem?
@@marcinchreptowicz6843 Also sorry for the spam, but also there is nothing stopping someone with this monitor from just training their own AI and then replace MSI's AI wth their own, more "powerfull" AI. I see so many issues with this its kind of concerning. As MSI themselves said in the video, the possibilities are endless.
Game awareness is a skill.
There's a third-party program that gives you a heads up on when someone buys what item even inside fog of war. That's a maphack technically
are the summoner spells cooldown tracker i see from streamers also a cheat?
@@johnaldrinco23 unless it tracks smite from fog of war, no it's not.
Those are just timers that you set for spells that you are aware of
Spell trackers that I know are manual, so you have to set it by yourself. It just gives a rough estimate of the CD on a summ spell so that you can play around that
"game awareness is a skill"
"oh nah, porofessor isnt cheating. it just gives you a 'rough estimate' of the CD of their spells so you dont have to be aware of the CD yourself!"
lmfao. this ai monitor pulls no info from fog. its literally just as cheating as porofessor. also aint ever heard of that item buy checker, and dont believe you that its real.@@overtale4516
@@johnaldrinco23 Technically they give you unfair advantage, but not really. The thing is that you can time summoners and camp re-spawn timers in chat or in your head or in a notepad (yep, that's what Korean pros did 10+ years ago). Plus, Riot themselves give you these timers on Chinese servers, for example. So, these timers just make timing things more convenient, rather than giving you info that you can't get otherwise.
@@LuckyGnom It's still pretty annoying though if you're not willing to download those programs, since it's just a click of the button for them, whereas I have to manually type the timer and go back and remove them when they're back up. Not a big deal though, I don't feel like they should be banned, I just wish they didn't exist lol
10 yrs from now: "Should brain chip implants be banned in esports?"
All tournaments will just need to add a rule stating "no part of any machine may use generative features"
That's fine for pro play, but for regular ladder?
But how do you detect that in an online setting?
@@modern5387 In what online setting?
If it's a pro scene, pros are required to use the hardware provided by the tournament minus peripherals like mouse and keyboards. But that's for LAN tourneys.
But for casuals? Riot has to implement a kernel system anticheat to counter this but look at Vanguard and see how that turned out.
@@modern5387 when Riot was playing their domestic leagues in the COVID era there's a Riot Referee in the team house whenever a team had a match day
@@modern5387install kernel-level malware like riot does
Kinda scary tbh. This is just its early stages too. Imagine playing a fighting game and the GenAI analyzes both yours and your opponent's habits and starts prompting you in realtime how to adapt. "Your opponent reacted to your dash attack 8 times in that last match with shield > shine oos. Try mixing up with xyz." Insane
theres the minimal input then. itll only really help bottom ranking players.
@@bopqw1055 actual braindead take. midset coaching is banned in pro play for a reason. bro is talking about a future with AI-based coaching not just midset but midgame
@@Problemsunexcept 2 things,1 it takes a high mid ranked player to be able to actively adapt mid set let alone mid match to what someone else is saying. 2 this would most definitely be banned/penilized at any pro play tournament the same way.
Tekken 8 already have this😅
Nah, just get gud. It will only handicap players who uses it & would reduce their overall skill overtime the more they use it. Look at cheaters in any game that they play, their general skill drops with basic usage of wallhacks over time, if they had any skill in the game previously.
This is totally whats needed. Official companies selling cheats. Can't wait till logitech sells an ai that locks your mouse to your opponents head in fps.
Well there was arduino hack that the software just scan your display and then the arduino send a mouse movement signal to lock the head like aim assist.
But you know , riot vanguard are banning you when you plugged arduino when the game open now lmao, imagine banned when plugging mouse
Logitech mouse script already exist xdddd
@@lucasvasquez7762 its shit tho logitech script are running on the software, the actual mouse didnt have enough on board memory.
When your ghub are not responding probably your script gonna run it down even you already unplug the mouse
Bloody mouse are better
this can stand grounds for a lawsuit and control this with a regulation. Companies have already sued cheat-makers in the past, and by how much advantage this give, game company can, and likely collectively will throw a lawsuit against MSI because their hardware is designed to cheat on their game.
Likely in the same way self-driving cars are regulated., because they can drive alone, but per law someone must still be on the wheel.
I Setup a macro on logi software to click as fast as possible so i can get pistol kills in Battlebit, but now im using a superlight and dont have mouse buttons for the macro
This would be wild in Tekken (and other FGCs).
- Info on screen telling you the frame data. No more knowledge checks!
- Prompt to either keep blocking, duck or punish.
- Prompts telling you how to break a throw like a QTE
- Info about spacing
- Data summary about opponent habits between rounds or sets.
Your screen is going to be looking wild with that if you play fast fighting games such as DBFz or UMvC3. It might even be detrimental looking at those info, you get touched by someone like Vergil or Zero you are toast, but for slower games like Street Fighter or Tekken, definitely useful
@@adrianmagtoto9775 you could definitely simplify the HUD if you wanted. Like changing your opponent's color or hiding their ability effects to make everything more readable.
@@adrianmagtoto9775 Why would you even need cheats for DBFZ or UMvC3, those games were made for children
@@Sturmjager wouldn't hiding ability effects be a bit too far, it would also probably set your monitor a frame or two behind because it needs to filter it out first
@@lalaldka ability effects always look the same. Once the first frame of the animation comes out, the rest of the animation can be predicted and suppressed.
11:56 " we dont recommend cheating ", proceed to make an ai monitor that actually cheats and gives a dumb excuse as to why it isnt cheating. great job msi....ty for making the world a worst place for cheaters because of corpa money. also good luck getting your monitors into the e-sports scenes
" we dont recommend cheating " but buy this, this is debatable
idc about esport even i care about everyone that plays the game it shouldnt be allowed at all esport or not
Well by the commonly practiced standard. It's not cheating.
You either have to admit that gathering and consolidating information is an advantage, cheating, and shouldn't be allowed. Or you get things like this where they go "well the company is allowing all their streamers and pros to use programs to automatically gather and consolidate information, giving them an advantage, so here is another"
It’s a monitor built for cheaters by cheaters
MSI cheats you out for money for sure 🤣
Completely, MSI just show here they are totally fine with people cheating in games
And i won't buy anything from them anymore. Their reputation is done for me
@@Lootsnoots lol cry poor, AI is here to stay
@@Lootsnoots i normally would let my ai reply comments for me , gave u a human one nw tho and its as bad as most human comments
@@Lootsnoots oh shiver me timbers, their company is going bankrupt now lmaoooo
For anyone who doesn’t play league, basically anyone below the top 1% of players is REALLY bad at looking at their minimap, people don’t notice things happening instantly like this, and would be a massive boost to players below diamond who haven’t built up a habit of glancing at map between every action they take
And by the standard, shouldn't be considered cheating. Since a ton of pros and company sponsored streamers already actively use programs for the same things
"We don't recommend cheating on this." Well that's reassuring, we're all good.
I forgive them
For now it's just pinging locations, next it will be tracking ult and spell cooldowns and notifying if an enemy is seen on an objective
oh you mean like porofessor? yeah wow that sounds like cheating! haha!
@@pinnacleexpress420porofessor doesnt track all that data. but it does give some useful information that a normal player wouldnt have unless they mentally tracked it, like jungle camp times for ALL camps. the (un)fortunate thing is that riot games has officially approved of the use of porofessor
there's already a third party app with that man
@@pinnacleexpress420 yeah doesn't alert you if an enemy is seen nearby an objective though
@@jayperez8357 you don't need a third party app if it's already on the monitor. imagine bringing a monitor as a peripheral in a pro match.
NA finally got the handicap they need to succeed
😭😭
Ahh man. Ur right
Auch
Bro I hate when people make fun of NA, there are literally 6 regions. So just because NA is the best all the EU kids gotta cope. Btw I am not defending NA most NA teams are booty
@@stevK7 what do you mean NA is the best region. All your players suck hahaha. NA is just above china in terms of skill❤
Basically we are going to have to go back to hardcore style game modes, no mini map, no inclusive options like visual audio cues, no hud...
@@banorZ Certainly not for disabled gamers. The existence of those additional inclusive cues is to make it so that even deaf people can game for example. That's a LOT of bad PR, considering both Sony and Microsoft, two of the giants in the gaming scene both provide adaptive hardware for gamers as an option.
@@banorZ Buddy, having a visual audio cue system doesn't give any competitive advantages, you're suggesting essentially quarantining disabled people instead of actually having assistive technology that doesn't advantage abled players while enabling disabled players to level the playing field. That's, from a pretty objective standpoint, really stupid.
I remember a time where monitors, who could display a small red dot at the center of the screen, were considered cheating in some FPS. Tbf it's still insanely helpful when AWPing in CS
Was just thinking about that, although I'd say scouting is even more OP with the crosshair. Goldeneye speedrunners have done that for years with a little piece of tape on the monitor. Extra lofi.
It's not broken at all. Everyone knows where the middle of their screen is, but that doesn't change the fact, that no scopes are inaccurate af.
There was a time tho (in 1.6 and earlier) where you could abuse these crosshairs when using a bug to make your noscopes way more accurate.
Monitor gap
monitor diff
monitor issue
"he just has a better monitor"
*Reported for monitor abuse*
This could basically kill the fun competitiveness of the game.
Well then it's already been dead. Not like this hasn't been available for free for a long time and most pros use programs that do similar
If dealing with cheaters wasn't a pain already, now we got big companies like MSI supporting them 😑
yeah thats is mind blowing and faking sad
Well they saw that certain types of cheating wasn't considered cheating, so they added a feature lol
Since the screen is using the minimap champion borders to detect which ones are enemies,
Riot can potentially solve this by making the champion icons on the minimap have a neutral color border instead of red and blue. They could leave it up to the players to remember who are their enemies.
In addition to that they should definitely seek legal action as well because this release will hurt their game significantly.
theyll just train a new model and release firmware update, this cant be solved and ruins it for actual players chanigng the colors every patch
I have already made a minimap software that does this, changing borders doesnt help. In fact that no one is doing this already is baffling to me. It literally took me 2 days in python.
@@stefsot2 the colors don't matter at all. the AI could easily be trained to recognize who are enemies and allies regardless of the minimap colors borders. in fact, you don't even need AI to do this. just identify which minimap icons are visible on screen at the start of the game. those must be the allies, anything else is an enemy.
there's basically no way around this, since an AI could be trained to recognize anything on the minimap that a human can.
Okay they cooking a little too much with this one HAHA
Imagine having gernade line ups on the fly playing cs2 without having to learn the map for hours
Unfortunately that is already a feature in most cheats.
MSI: "its not cheating its just looking at your minimap."
Sure man i love kt when im in a 1v1/2v2 and a giant glowing skull tells me im about to get ganked.
Fuck esports, this is going to ruin casual gaming
Devs would probably have to take legal action
So easy to spoof the E-Data of a monitor in your windows. The game won’t know you have an MSI monitor.
Ha, the joke is Riot actually doing something proactive to combat cheaters and griefers in League.
They wouldn't have any case. The monitor doesn't interact with the game files in any way. It would be like sueing NVidea for adding filters(Which is banned in Rust)
Oh hey a pixel bot (a practically undetectable cheat) but now it's built into the monitor, rather than a raspberry pie and you don't have to do a janky video overlay to get it to display on your monitor.
End of eSports
Good timeline
end of GAMING wtf for cares just about the pros this affects EVERYONE
They are using an external program not built in the game to gain an advantage/info. Imagine a baseball pitcher having eyes behind his back, watching the guy on 2nd base, making sure he doesn’t try to steal. Imagine those trick plays in football where there’s a dude off in the sideline that the defense doesn’t realize, just being highlighted for everyone to see. Bottom line, it’s cheating.
Sure, but that's what a lot of players already do.
Have you seen the how freaking coloful the games of some pros look like?
In shooters, there's no way they could miss an opponent on their screen with those settings.
@@malte54what game are you even talking about? there's no currently popular FPS that would give you wallhacks
@@Kensuke0987 Not wallhacks, but advantages at smokes, fires, dark areas etc. just by having the correct monitor settings.
btw. did you ever hear of this new FPS "varlorant"?
@@malte54 you don't have wallhacks with 100% uptime in Valorant. you have them for a short amount of time and only when you use a skill properly. even then, the effect of some of these skills can be denied by the enemy if they were vigilant and/or quick enough. some of these skills practically can only be used once per round.
the AI-assist on the other hand would otherwise work on another game that _does not have wallhacks_ like say, Counterstrike 2, using the minimap to check for "?" and then with the knowledge of the elevations of the map, the monitor can predict and paint a silhouette of the enemy on-screen. this is a much bigger advantage than lowering your settings so you could see through smoke/grass/fires because _you're never supposed to see through walls._
@@Kensuke0987
With this monitor, you also won't have wallhacks 100% of the time and you can't see through walls, because the monitor can't track through walls. It can just ASSUME where the opponent is.
Obviously that's way more broken than using settings to get an advantage when looking into fires, dark corners or smokes. But nontheless both is "using an external program not built in the game to gain an advantage/info".
I do see how that AI gives you an bigger advantage, but why would you draw the line inbetween both situations? Why not draw the line earlier or later?
All it took was "That uses AI" to formulate an opinion. It is ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed
ai = bad.
Ai isn't the issue it's the application of it that can cause problems in many areas of society
Imagine having the brain od a 4 yr old n saying it proudly
Bro the ai is helping you cheat in this case
AI is a huge issue and I hope people come to there senses in time just this once to stop AI @@eczplosiongg6775
7:53 Sim racing is actually going through the same issue with the new motor driven pedal sets.
It's literally like having your friend tell you whenever an enemy apears from FOG
Exactly, I don't know what's the surprise here.
To be fair, this is just highlighting a problem that already exists with customizability, how many times have I been killed through a Molotov because it completely blinded me while people with other particle or light settings could clearly see me behind the flames. Or the 4:3 vs. 16:9 thing. If you don't enforce your game's settings, you'll never have competitive integrity anyway.
technically forcing it doesn't do that either and if you hard-ware restrict things, it makes your game more expensive and cuts sales and the reputation of the game as it is easily prone to false-positives. As an example, higher resolutions are larger on smaller-resolution monitors. You likely won't be able to see some things, but if the UI isn't completely destroyed, it's like having a magnifying glass or scope that wasn't there unless the game adjusts for lower resolution, which can ALSO reduce sales by rendering the game unplayable at times (take skyrim, most text is illegible at certain resolutions)
It highlights even further, as in the case of league of legends. Where it's already commonly accepted to use third party programs for advantages. Even most the pros and game sponsored streamers use them.They make some excuse why it's not cheating, but it's doing exactly what the monitor is.
It's really weird to me that cheating is acceptable for certain aspects, but not others lol
Rather than better gaming chair, now he has a better gaming monitor😂
to be fair it always was like that. Someone with a 120+ hz monitor with low latency has a substancial advantage over someone with a 60 hz one with high latency.
"nice try flashing me buddy"
guys remember that monitors can also get audio inputs, son in any fps game it is going to be ridiculously easy to outline enemies exact position based only on whether or not you can hear them, since most fps gams have insanely good 3d sound
No way MSI thinks this is okay. Also no way they care. People who want to cheat will buy it. Some. People. Don’t. Care. And it sucks :(
I mean... It's just making existing information easier to obtain.
Anyone in the actual competitive scene doesn't need it. Like jungle timers.
Now, is it fair? No. Will it probably give a boost to many people's elo that they wouldn't get without it? Yes. And then they will get stuck at that new elo maybe 3 or 4 ranks above where they are now.
Thank you for pointing out that we already have this kind of cheating that's commonly accepted as "not cheating" for some reason
Imagine it tracks every skill and summoner spell cooldowns and just displays it. Of course you can note it down but knowing exactly when a spell comes back during an engagement is insane
At some point Riot will have to include all that known information in the the game itself. Tbh it's already unfair outside of tournaments, anyone can watch your game on Discord and give you extra info if you hire him to do that. It's nothing new really..
I have got that for CS2 too. As soon I see enemies on the monitor they will get surrounded by red rectangles!
3:34 Ina in the wild
takodachi in the wild
Where does it stop. How easy would it be to have your monitor track cooldowns, range, or show skill shots the moment the first particle is visible (some of the most common actual cheats in League).
At some point Riot will have to include all that known information in the the game itself. Tbh it's already unfair outside of tournaments, anyone can watch your game on Discord and give you extra info if you hire him to do that. It's nothing new really.
It should have stopped before the add-ons doing the same things were considered fine to use.
This reminded me there used to be a program made by a fan that would have the lights on your keyboard track your health in the same way. As your health went down the lights on the right side would turn off like a physical health bar.
To think about other games, what if it starts recognizing arms in a fighting game? What if it recognizes a left or right arm in Tekken going for a throw?
If it's not revealing info that isn't supposed to be seen (wallhacks, enemy health bars, etc) then it isn't cheating... If that falls under cheating due to unfair advantages then so does higher refresh rate monitors, mice with better sensors, basically anything that isn't 100% available across every player
In ffxiv ultra wide screens extrend your camera further making it 99% similar to zoom hack. Should that be considered cheating? People are overreacting, if you start drawing the line here then everything falls apart. How about we try to give everyone 0 ping otherwise if not possible force 200 ping crappy wifi-style network on everyone to make it fair, no more ping cheating with your nice hardware and world location. See how everything turns to nonsense if we apply this logic? It is not cheating.
i agree, i wouldnt call it cheating, but will definitely give those who use it an advantage over others. taking league for the example, the ping system it has does not seem that strong off the rip, but in reality gives a player who lacks map awareness a shortcut to their problem rather then them working on it. thats just with whats confirmed. add third party into the mix and it can quickly become an untrackable cheat that tells you all the items, patterns, and cooldowns of the enemies while their still in the fog of war.
the main problem is that its taking a skill you have to learn and making it available for money letting you skip the hard work many pro players had to do to get to where they are and potentially giving an avenue to those who already hard cheat to cheat in a better way. (this monitor will be a way around vangaurd in both league and valorant.)
just my thoughts on the matter imo.
@@megasora4funny thing is most of that is already available for free. And a lot of it is already commonly used, including by most pros and sponsored streamers
So its like backseating but a monitor
yeah, it's so simple
It arguably can do more than even the best pro, since it's pixel perfect. On a narrow wall, you couldn't see which side someone is on reliably, as the icons are fairly big relative to the map.
It's also just a simple learning process to train it for cooldowns, ranges and so on if/when it can identify the champs itself, allowing it similar features to a script just without direct inputs, which I think most high elo scripters also won't use (as it makes them somewhat obvious).
This is already done in WildRift. Not in a way to point where enemies are, the enemy portrait appears if they are nearby so you would know there are enemies that are not in fog of war.
this monitor about to be sold out for all onliners kekw
Honestly, if MSI drops this for real, I wont buy MSI. Someone will eventually make it, but whoever does is not a brand I want support.
what if every brand makes it? Would you buy no monitors?
@@alphawolf5294 No, I mean the first company to make the step will be the one to open the doors for others. AI should not be used to gain a competitve edge.
Where does it stop? Would you buy from a mouse company that started implementing AI into their mice? Honestly, games should ban these models from use. If the game can read the monitor ban any model with the potential. It won't stop at mild radar and it can probably be manipulated further. AI tech should not be in competitive games.
Also, I would almost guarantee that a few or even most companies won't do it.
Pack it up MSI, Ryn0_333 wont be buying from yall anymore. Its done.
@@alphawolf5294 You boycott the first, so that you remove the financial incentive for the second / third etc
Obviously people will still buy these, but vote with your wallet and do your part.
@@Ryn0_333 You're acting like AI isn't absolutely taking over the world in the next few years.
In the terms of fps games. Crosshair placement is a skill you develop as you peak. If they get an outline, they basically get free crosshair placement hacks. In Valorant/CS, they can perfectly counter strafe and shoot right were a defender may be holding. That's absolutely wild.
Depending on the processor who can say that a quick mod and a firmware break can't essentially turn it into an AI version of a DMA where it would be completely undetectable. Using the AI to find the target and potentially using the position of the cross hair to make a rudimentary aim bot.
bro's mustache is royal
👑🙏
i dont need this monitor, i have my girlfriend sit next to me and watch my minimap
The monitor will be probably more cost friendly. So you should reconsider.. :)
If they made a mouse that aimed for you in first person shooters everyone would say that's cheating. A monitor that analyzes the image for you and tells you where to look is cheating.
that actually was a thing for a while. i think the brand was called "bloody" and it was quickly banned from all major events.
Remember when the wooting keyboard was so op for letting you be precise with movement but that is nothing in comparasion
MSI just open the floodgate, cool
11:00 you can probably also get outlines when spaming through a smoke
that's busted
especially in valorant and csgo, where even if you know the enemy's location, you don't know the exact height or position to get a headshot, this will instantly kill off shooting through smokes
Literally undetectable even if it was bannable.
Plus, it just analyses the given info to... literally give that same info to you while making it slightly more accessible. Kind of similar to having a monitor crosshair too lol.
Back in my day people used to put tape on a monitor with a black dot.
If thats wants to be norm, eighter every event has to use it or none of them...
Regardless , this is cheating
Well they need to start banning all the pros and streamers for cheating then
People will do anything besides practice to get better
The thing is some things you cannot practice. For example you cannot focus your eyes fully on two things at once.
@@lukkkasz323but you don't need to fully focus on the minimap to see something popup on it
I honestly would love this kind of stuff for a mouse, I have tourrettes syndrome and while I have an AI filter on my voice chats that helps with that aspect, a sudden movement of my arm means I just inted a team fight and I literally had no way to not do that, I have a disability. Yes it might suck that cheats happen, but I have been waiting my whole life to have something like this and to put me on a level playing field. This doesn't mean I am suddenly good, I am hard stuck silver and will probably stay hard stuck silver, but it reduces the feels bad moments.
I'm betting most major tournaments will outright ban the gear. It's a very small percentage compared to the average consumer audience so MSI likely won't mind the "financial loss." Plus they'll still sponsor tournaments with some other monitor to mitigate that if they want. If it starts significantly improving peoples ranks in comp games, at least it will show if they make it to an offline event where the peripheral is banned. Sucks for any online event/online ranked however...
Clicked for the AI
3:30
Me: Gets distracted by the Vtuber
I think it's elia stellaria
Yeah its her
There’s hololive too
Poster: Ninomae Ina’nis
Stickers on PC: Usada Pekora, Inugami Korone, Nanashi Mumei, and Akai Haato(?). Yagoo(?)(CEO of Cover Corp)
@@ElectroWolfZ7Man's got a keen eye!!
@@ElectroWolfZ7 They're there every episode, so i assumed bro wanted the one on the stream
This will either be p2w or pay to get banned
If they can't detect it they're out of luck.
@@NneonNTJ Well lucky me I dont play LoL
No software is involved in this. They can't detect it.
@@NneonNTJ You can see what devices are connected to the PC. They can easily make a blacklist of monitor models. There is probably a simple work around, but it can be detected
@@arionell they will find a way I mean they can also detect Xim and that Just a Controller Emulator
I think what is more scary than wall hacks is if the monitor trained on how you were aiming and then it outlines where you should spray to be more accurate. Like if it new your spray pattern with an AK in CS it could predict and correct you and then put markers on the screen when it notices the muzzle flash of the ak so u can just move your crosshair to those green dots n just spray like you were DONK
The Ina poster is very good. Where did you buy it?
At a convention. Look for @phibonnachee on twitter.
Shaving his moustache and removing anime girl stickers from his PC would give him a 100% boost in trustworthiness. Just saying.
If the mustache overpowers my degree... Honestly that's a win in my book 💪😤
90+% will say no. In a few years, that number will drop to 75%. Then in a few more years, that number will drop to 55%. And at that point, there is enough of a marketplace that companies will make and sell it. The only thing they can do to stop it is blacklist the monitors with such tech. Stuff like this is inevitable... just like microtransactions were.
True. Can't fucking wait.
they're killing esports excitement and the sense of gaming
Imagen for example, that in the future, you have a full Team of 5 Players in CS who all use the same monitors that are connected to each other, and just from all 5 views of the players, the Monitors would communicate with each other and could give you like pop-ups where the enemies are or give you full-on calls over some AI voice specific to your view of the game. That would be f up
I would boycott MSI products if they ever release this monitor into market. It is totally unacceptable for a major cooperation to support cheating in multiplayer games.
So you boycott RIOT right?
This should be banned, I'm sorry. It's so cancerous. It's one thing for people to use AI hardware for IRL things but to use it in games is legit p2w. They might be using games as a testing method but this is just a fkin cancerous method, ik my choice of words is harsh and all but it's rly that bad
My Asus OLED monitor has a 2x magnification crosshair that turns assault rifles in games low recoil automatic sniper rifles.
In Valorant it can turn a pixel peek into a full view. It’s crazy
AI monitors could do a whole lot more than this.
It could render accurate range indicators and cooldowns for enemy abilities, based on their masteries and items last time you opened TAB.
It could highlight the best items to win against your lane opponent, based on simulated 1v1's and maybe even your enemy's build habits from their match history.
It could render all enemies on the minimap at all times, imagine enemy javrvan as a slowly expanding circle from the last position your monitor saw him at, based on his movespeed and ability to dash over walls.
I could tell you if you will be able to crash your wave into the tower on time.
It could render an educated guess for where your lane opponent is while walking back to lane if you saw their recall.
It could render all enemy minion waves at all times through fog of war on the minimap. (You can usually infer this from your own waves, but not always if you are pushed in).
It could tell you if you have or don't have the damange to kill your lane opponent and the other way around. Imagine a red HP bar with icons of the spells that need to land in order to secure a kill.
It can tell you how many seconds you need in order to kill dragon / baron based on you and your teammates simulated DPS.
It could tell you where to aim your skill shots, based on the previous behavior of your enemies. If they have some sort of dodging habit the AI may predict it better than you can. Likewise it could show you an arrow indicating where it thinks blitzcrank will likely throw his hook. It can also render an accurate danger area the moment the skillshot animation starts.
By running simulations, it would be able to give you all kinds of absurdly useful information. For things like simulated 1v1's you would of course still need to master the execution of it, but mechanical skill will be just about the only thing differentiating players if this is taken to the extreme. It can't help you execute the perfect yasou combo, but it can take all decicions for you and essentially replace your brain.
It is obviously cheating. Why is there a debate lol.
some people doubt the capabilities of non general AI to really do anything actually harmful and think ai images and songs are just a gimmick.
@@johnmarkson1998 I do agree that AI is mostly a gimmick and their capabilities are often exaggerated, but people will manage to do harmful things with it out of greed and stupidity.
Because it's the equivalent of someone just sitting beside you and watching your game.
For me, it's less a debate and more of a pointing out flagrant hypocrisy. We already have this kind of cheating, (LoL for example) most pros use these kinds of cheats. Same with streamers that are sponsored by the games company. When you excuse cheats for long enough with weird justifications, you can get this... "Oh well the game companies are ok with it, so I'll add it as a feature on my product"
this is 100% cheating, hate that so many people have no respect for the competitive integrity of games. Weak people, weak strats
Most game devs already have ways of stopping or forcing the monitor to turn these features off, or at the very least will ask the companies to implement ways to detect certain competitive games and auto turn features off.
The main reason people play stretch in cs go is because there is no FoV slider. Stretching the resolution forces a lower FoV(horizontally) but u lose visibility. In a game like quake u want wide FoV. In cs u generally want it more narrow FoV.
yeah no. This is definitly equevalent to cheats.
its similar to something like a macro, and if its based off visual cues, could probably even track ability and summoners cooldowns in lol.
I get that its cool to develop these things, and image identification technology can be really benificial in many cases, but my god, did no one have an ethics course in school / uni / whereever?
I would like that healthbar thing in cs since I tend to ignore how much health I have left or more like I forget about it
wasn't expecting the Phillip de Franco shout out
We stay Philled in 👏
AI may have felt like a mistake on a lot of fronts, but damn if it hasn't been a profitable mistake.
All developers need to do to give more options for people with disabilities is to allow to move minimap anywhere on your screen.
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You dropped this 👑
imagine if you could see an invis teemo or shrooms mid game
I mean if it’s visible on the minimap, it just leaves too much argument on both sides of the coin. It’s technically not information that isn’t visible to the player. This function seems pretty relatable to fortnite and it’s visual ques based off of other players footsteps. It doesn’t literally pin point the exact location of an enemy, it just shows you the direction they are off screen. The minimap itself literally shows you the exact location based off of that same information.
Great! Can't wait to buy a new Monitor that has a potential to lock my entire pc and hold it for ransom.
What a great new era for Gaming.
Imagine it highlights HP bars and the moment it hits a certain threshold it lets you know for execute... I think the possibility are endless and its kinda sad😂
This is useful for single player only games, when you aren't participating in any ranked things
Like nfsmw
Or mw2 the old one
Or indie games casual playthrough like
Hollow knight
Rain world
Hell add ultrakill, though the "casual" playthrough is already a ranked gamemode
When people use that monitor i wont play fps games anymore...
Add-on in WoW is also a good example. I think company might have to integrate these features to mitigate the impact, it's unfortunate but at the same time, thats part of UX job if you think about it to make it work.
"New gaming chair physically correct your aim."
Thank you for bringing up the “accessibility” part of this.
I have friends who would LOVE to play video games and pinball…buuuut they have epilepsy.
Waiting for AI devs to make a damn set of code that detects and reduces flashing so they can play without getting blindsided with seizures…like what happened to Lianna Ruppert when she played Cyberpunk. 😞
Basically, in the future you could have mouse and keyboard with AI that analyses the image on the monitor with a device and use scrpits without interacting with the operative system, rendering all current anti cheats useless...
2:16 ah yes, the menace of low elo, Mistr Yi
Good catch 😂
If my monitor started flashing random shit on the screen during a teamfight to tell me there's a "threat" nearby i'd probably play worse
so eventually the future eSports scene is going to be like a HvH servers, gotcha.
Could you use adversarial AI patterns in say the mini-map that would trick the AI into thinking something was approaching, but would be visually unnoticable by a human? So the monitor would constantly be flashing false alerts all over the place, forcing the user to disable the AI feature.