Is this good? First Time hearing KISS and I'm not sure what to think.
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- For a few years now, I've heard a lot about KISS and have been told of their legacy within the realm of Rock. I even recognize some of the face paint, though I've never heard their sound before. I'm going in blind, and realized early on that there's two camps here: those that love KISS, and those that loathe them. Which camp will I be in?
Join professional opera singer Elizabeth Zharoff, as she listens to KISS for the first time, performing "Detroid Rock City”.
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Elizabeth Zharoff is an international opera singer and voice coach, with 3 degrees in voice, opera, and music production. She's performed in 18 languages throughout major venues in Europe, America, and Asia. Currently based somewhere between Los Angeles and Tucson, Arizona, Elizabeth spends her days researching voice, singing, teaching, writing music, and recording TONS. She also plays Diablo and Dungeons & Dragons.
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Geddy Lee of Rush said: " Say what you will about KISS' songs or style, but no one ever worked harder to make sure the audience gets their money's worth than KISS."
You don't even need to be a KISS fan to enjoy the show. I'd say the same of Alice Cooper.
not true. The original Alice Cooper band practiced 10 hours a day and made sure their audience got their moneys worth and put on a show no one's ever done before with the make up. nothing new here!
Rush. My favorite band in 1978. Kiss #2
This is true about their entertainment value and hard work/commitment to their craft, great music or not.
Kiss helped Rush a lot, early on.
“We’re not musicians, we’re entertainers.”
- Paul Stanley
They sure are!
That did not mean they can’t play, you’re taking it out of context. Paul said lots of things that clarify this that you chose not to quote.
@@Dr.Jekyll They are horrible musicians.
@@Dr.Jekyll I can make a grilled cheese sandwich, but that doesn’t make me a chef.
black diamond alone disproved that but if you listen to the original god gave rock and roll to you, you really get a sense of how talented these guys are.
In MTV "Unpllugged - I Still Loving You", Paul's vocals will blow you away, here's' the real power of Paul voice. And on the KISS "Symphony", listening again "Detroit Rock City", really awesome!!
I'm just amazed that someone can be alive on this planet for however long you are old and not have at least heard a KISS song on the radio, in a movie, on a commercial, at a carnival , at the grocery store.
I've always believed she has lived a ridiculously sheltered life and, nothing proves that more then her never hearing or seeing KISS before.
Some people are just lucky
I've managed to go my entire 40 years without hearing a single Kiss song to completion. Usually just enough passing thru on a radio scan to know it wasn't for me. I was never a fan of the Nugent/Kiss/Motley Crue style of rock. Alice Cooper wasn't completely horrible, but I really only liked one of his.
I look at that stage of metal as an unfortunately necessary stepping stone to much, much, much better things...
I'm from the era, and I just really found out about them lately on youtube. I was already listening to Genesis, Camel, Caravan, Yes, Led Zeppelin... I remember Beth was a hit and other kids talking about them, but I had no interest.
I became a fan in the late 80s and it was years before I heard them on the radio. Never heard anything other than RNRAN until the reunion.
Wow. I was head of pyrotechnics for this this tour, and I fired this performance, yet I didn't know the video existed. Awesome. The Australia/New Zealand "Unmasked" tour has a lot of great memories for me. I was just chatting with another KISS pyro I worked with on the "Dynasty" tour, and we are the only surviving members of the KISS pyro crew from that era.
That's amazing! You should make videos about your time on the road, I would love to hear stories
My what stories!👍
the KISS ARMY made it all possible
Seems kinda odd that you never knew this video existed.
@@WilliamT1964 I did three world tours with them, probably 150 shows. There were crews shooting a lot of those. Very few out of those were released.
Kiss Unplugged I Still Love You. Paul's vocals will blow you away!
Lol no she won't 😂😂 they are mediocre musicians!
Agreed! Paul’s voice was so good in the 90s and I Still love you Unplugged proves that… hopefully she’ll react/analyse that any time soon :)
Exactly.
@@montana47261 So is your mom.
youre so wright , this song is a masterpiece, guitar- voice et drums, Paul Stanley is the best ..
Stanley once said, “There had been an accident outside of an arena in Charlotte. Someone was killed coming to the concert. I thought, how odd and how striking, and the juxtaposition of someone coming to a Kiss concert, which celebrates being alive, to lose your life. That was the twist of ‘Detroit Rock City.’ To change it from a song about your amazing city to something much more epic.”
The KISS live experience is what this is about. Until you are in the middle of the crowd feeling the heat of the explosions while they are exuding their musical energy and theatrics right in front of you, you just can't fully comprehend that which is KISS.
To see Paul Stanley at the height of his vocal abilities, check out I STILL LOVE YOU, from the MTV KISS UNPLUGGED show. I have endless respect for Paul Stanley. While most rock musicians start out strong when they are young, but then go downhill, Paul continued to improve both his vocal and guitar skills over the course of his career. His vocal cords were clearly starting to wear out by 2005, but he kept going until the band finally retired this year.
This! Paul was in his vocal prime during the 90s, she has to give him another chance!
Alice in Chains MTV unplugged is one of my favourite albums of all time.
Only saw the Kiss unplugged once on tv twenty odd years ago. Bringing in various old members to play and celebrate their music. I have very fond memories of it.
Sucks that to my knowledge the only way to see it these days is on the seven seas.
The unplugged session changed my view of them
Unplugged was a perfect display of voice skill.
Cold Gin was good as well.
You definitely need to the unplugged version of I Still Love You… Paul Stanley is his absolute best!
nah, SUCH a boring song. bleh. Million to One is a better choice.
@@noneyerbidness the studio version is boring, but the unplugged version was pretty cool
Yeah his voice was at its peak there around 96 I think it was. That’s a good acoustic live performance where they were not on tour yet and you could really hear what he was capable of when touring was not wearing his voice down. This live recording that she reached to was surprisingly really good. I have never heard this version.
I suggested that one a few months ago, but it didn't go anywhere. That is one song where Paul Stanley is a lot more nuanced.
I love the unplugged version of this song. Paul's voice is incredible.
Kiss was my very first concert in the late 70's. I was 15yo and it was Abilene, Tx...as a small town country boy surrounded by old school country music, I left blown away by the show.
Kiss is one of my favourite bands. What I do love about them is the energy and the simplicity. They did have terrific ideas but they never tried to be something more than good entertainers. Lot of their songs are nice to sing with. Or just listen and hum and smile.
Ideas for listening:
I still love you (from MTV Unplugged)
Tears Are Falling
Do You Love Me
Sure Know Something
Saw an interview with Paul Stanley where he said that when he went to concerts, he was tired of hearing bands that didn’t give the audience their money’s worth - even though they paid for a ticket. He wanted to be the band that always give the audience their money’s worth. Musically I am not a fan of KISS, but I can say that as a show band every single time I saw them in concert, they gave 100% and the audience got their money’s worth. They never “mailed it in” or gave the audience anything less than they paid for.
Except for, you know….that whole backing track/lip syncing thing Paul did during the last 6 years😆
I only went to one Kiss show. We actually went to see Uriah Heep open for them. They killed.
We stayed for Kiss for the fire show, etc.
The reason I checked out Elizabeth's take on this song. Is because 'Detroit Rock City' is probably my favorite song of theirs. It was their opening song when I saw them. But the sound was screwed up until the song was almost over. Only then did we know what it was. It was kind of a hoot after that. We did leave before they finished to beat the traffic.
@JR-vc3lq "the last 6 years"? He's quite obviously lip-synching even here--the vocals are audibly double-tracked.
@@JR-vc3lq Well, about that. I heard it too - but then I started wondering - because this was, for 1980, considered to be a "professional" video-taping of the concert - could they have double tracked the vocals in post-production to make his voice sound more "full"? I know that audio engineers do all kinds of things with sound in post, because generally bands do not like the way they sound in concert, and to make their egos better the audio engineer will effect all kinds of sounds for them. That would also explain why it looks like Paul is lip-syncing. I honestly don't know about Kiss using backing tracks in the last 6 years, but a post-production "enhancement" would make sense.
@@justinvancura2231I think what's going on with this recording is that this show may have been released in Australia as a live record and we are hearing the final product after they went into the studio to fix any vocal and instrumental mistakes, much like what they did with Alive and Alive ll.
In 1999, Paul Stanley (KISS lead singer) starred in a Toronto production of The Phantom of the Opera, in which he played the role of the Phantom. He appeared in the musical from May 25 to August 1, and again that year from September 30 to October 31, 1999, closing the show's ten-year run in Toronto.
That was worth a google/youtube search! Wow!
That might be worth a review on here.
I remember the interviews back then. Didn't seem out of place for him to be involved in such a production.
Paul Stanley was also born with microtia, a condition in which the external ear is undeveloped. He has no hearing in one ear. Apparently he related to the Phantom deeply as he was worried people would see his disfigurement, he works with the charity About Face helping children with facial disfigurements.
I saw him twice in Toronto in Phantom. He was just awesome!!
I've always said this about KISS: "They're an amazing band that know how to play their instruments and churn out great songs, and they just happen to be wearing make-up. But that's their persona. It raises the awe factor to another level. It works. Makeup or no makeup, I like their music."
I attended the very last Kiss concert at Madison Square Garden in New York City last December 2. I was given a commemorative gold-plated ticket for the event!
Nice!!! I was at Nov 1st and 3rd. No gold plated ticket but they were great shows.
The MTV "Unplugged" series, Paul Stanley's voice on "I Still Love You" will completely blow you away at the range and power his voice takes on. Bluesy styling with Jazz like runs. Amazing breath control!!!!
Magic touch from the live to win video is amazing too.
I Still Love You MTV unplugged will blow you away 🔥🔥🔥
This
I just asked her to take a listen and hopefully she puts it on. I totally agree ❤
IMO the better choice to start the KISS journey
Paul sang this song almost every show for over 45 years... sadly his voice eventually broke down in the 2000's, but he belted it out like this for decades.
I have been a fan of theirs for over 45 years, they gave me confidence and courage as an introverted boy.I can only thank them for changing my life.
I saw kiss 23 times between 1983 and 2023
I always said you don't go to hear Kiss you go to experience Kiss
Never ever failed to be satisfied. Thank you for being part of my life for 40 years
Since 1977 here. My first concert. Amazing...
😂 wasted life
Envious, only got to see them twice.
Funny. I never had any kind of a problem with Kiss, I was....indifferent. And I was the same about Iron Maiden UNTIL some friends talked me into going to a show with them. Those guys are PROFESSIONAL entertainers. The show was off the charts. I THINK I'm getting where you're coming from. But I've been wrong before.
Since 1990 for me. Always a fantastic show.
I'm 60 now, KISS was my very first concert. I've seen them 6 times in my life. They were bombastic & so much fun. They had a wonderful way of truly bringing people together. A total feast for the eyes and ears. They colored my teenage life with loud, heart pounding rock & roll. I don't think there will ever be another band like them. They earned their place for sure.
My uncle had a big kiss poster hanging in his bedroom back in 1981…I was 9, they scared the sh outta me lol
@@DPRyan-vd5pp really? LoL
I'm 60 also the first concert I ever saw was kiss on the destroyer tour in Houston.
I'm 63 and KISS was my first concert too, Philadelphia 1976
I agree, CorpseBride64. I'm 61 and can remember how much they poured into their shows.
I grew up listening to KISS thanks to my Dad. It was the best time of my childhood rocking out to their songs in the living room. To this day it brings back wonderful memories of life and is easily the best music ever created.
Love this! And i agree!
The 😢😢😊 16:50
Thanks for a great video :) I'm not sure if you take requests, but I would love to see an analysis of Journey! Steve Perry's voice is angelic and so underrated, especially his live vocals. I'd recommend looking up the Houston '81 tour and picking either "Mother, Father", "Open Arms/Lights/Stay Awhile" trio, or "Faithfully"
Paul Stanley said that "Detroit Rock City" was one the best songs he had ever written, released in 1976, it was overshadowed by the ballad "Beth" that became a huge single that year. Paul Stanley said the lyrics were a tribute to a Kiss fan in North Carolina, who was killed in a car accident on the way to a Kiss concert. Kiss wanted to immortalize Detroit in gratitude for embracing this band from New York City with 4 guys in makeup and costumes. Everybody thought Kiss were clowns, but they blew away audiences on tour and they were playing arenas in Detroit around 1975 and the Midwest, before they even had a hit record.
Also, their big double-live album "Alive!" was recorded in Detroit's Cobo Hall in '75 and that became their first major album. By 1977, the original Kiss was a global success and had become a pop culture phenomenon.
Thanks for the background info! 😀
and then they were dered to write a disco/pop song, and they smashed the chart with "I was made for loving you"
Not to mention at that time they had Rush opening every night. Talk about a tough act to follow. Granted most people were there to see Kiss at that time
Japan went nuts over KISS as they looked like Kabuki warriors.
Alive as the first record I ever bought. I was like 6 and my stepdad really didn’t want me to have it. I still spin it from time to time and it just rocks.
I guess it's a "you had to be there" kind of thing. When I was a kid, KISS were comic book heroes come to life. There were lunch boxes, Halloween masks and even a tv movie. It was a big cultural phenomenon. In the 80's when they actually unmasked, they did prove that it wasn't just the makeup. They leaned into the whole hair metal genre and those albums also sold well.
I was “there”. I thought they (and the hype) were ridiculous then as well as now. But, I accept that other people’s taste in music/entertainment does not need to match my own. And, I will credit Kiss for what they did for Rush.
For Mrs. Elisabeth; while Kiss is not my thing, I do truly appreciate your analysis. I will watch if you continue to delve deeper into their catalog, as your insight makes tolerating them worthwhile.
Kiss vs the Phantom of the Park.
They were a cultural phenomenon - that’s undeniable. And they milked it for all they could.
But it *was* just the makeup, metaphorically speaking. They were, and are, musically and lyrically bankrupt.
@@ErinJWade They went a long time without makeup and made out pretty well:
Lick it up = Platinum
Animalize = Platinum
Asylum = Gold
Crazy Nights = Platinum
Hot in the Shade = Gold
Revenge = Gold
Alive 3 = Gold
Agreed. They were as big of a cultural phenomenon as Star Wars. Kiss merch was everywhere. Back then, the band's only merch was t-shirts and posters. Kiss has action figures, lunch boxes, you name it.
I just copied this to my favorite KISS Facebook group. I, a KISS fan for 44 years, have never seen this specific live KISS video, though having listened to ALIVE II, infinite times. I have, however, viewed MANY videos on The Charismatic Voice. Its my favorite UA-cam channel.
When I saw this, I knew I had to share there. Friggin awesome.
I would never purposely listen to KISS, but having grown up in the 70s, I can’t deny it was a part of my youth and makes me feel nostalgic.
KISS, the best marketing band on the planet.
you mean the most over-hyped band on the planet..they had like 2-3 good songs total
@@msaltalolayou're very generous. they had zero good songs max. if any rock band could be considered Disco it's this one.
@@msaltalolaNo, I mean what I write. I know, unusual in this day in age.
@@EmmaBadOneThey had quite a few great songs
@@boscotheman82 good thing art is subjective
During his heyday Paul was a fantastic vocalist. In the late 90’s he did the Phantom of the Opera in Toronto.
I just commented on this!! My wife and I saw him as Phantom - and I was genuinely surprised at how good he was! It being my favourite musical, and a Kiss fan, I was excited (but honestly a little skeptical) to see how this played out! Paul had the theatrics down, and while not a huge 'range' (unlike my favourite Phantom Michael Crawford) - he was no slouch on all the songs! I had a newfound respect for him that night!
I went to Toronto to see this, and of course the night I was there, he was sick and didn’t do the show….
@@Savafan1 Oh no what a pity 😩 What a devastating experience!
@@Savafan1 sorry to hear that!!
@@EchoesDaBear I saw him do the show three times, once he hit everything well, once you could hear the strain, and one time he missed on a couple of the key moments. What I found especially interesting was that you could feel he was working so hard at it that the audience, many of whom were not KISS fans, genuinely got behind him. You could honestly simply FEEL them anticipating and pulling for him to hit those notes. I've never felt something like that, at least to that extent, from a theatre crowd.
It’s a lot of fans too I saw them live 1983. Fan since 77. My daughter’s 1st concert. She wanted kiss 2013 she now is a big fan ! So they go work hard ! ❤🤘🏼🤘🏼
So, I'm just gonna say this: I'm a huge metalhead, I love so many different subgenres of metal, and all of that started the first time I listened to God of Thunder on Tony Hawk's Underground. Instantly fell in love with these guys and the sounds they could make. I'm by no means a giant KISS-head, I've not listened to their entire discography, I only know a handful of their songs.. but I respect the absolute hell out of these guys.
Yes, I know, KISS isn't a metal band, but she's absolutely right--they're a bridge or gateway band. Anyway, that's all, just wanted to say that regardless of your opinion of KISS's music, they're worthy of respect. Hell, despite not being a huge KISS fan, family keep buying me their shirts (which I don't mind, the KISS logo is freaking RAD! Not only that, I'm proud to wear their stuff.)
(P.S. THUG and THUG 2 had some freaking awesome soundtracks. THUG 2 cemented my love of metal with The Number of the Beast, but it wouldn't have happened without KISS, first!)
Kiss I Still Love You Live MTV Unplugged is an amazing performance. Needs to be watched. Was hoping you would do that one first. ❤️🔥
I think for a first Kiss experience you have to go full regalia, but for a raw, stripped down display of pure talent, that unplugged performance is spot on.
Agreed, probably the best showcase of Paul's voice.
Agree!
Agree!
@@bdabusnot when so many people wrongfully accuse Kiss of being only about the show and that they can’t play or sing and that they suck. You want to shut those people down and by making them watch Kiss stripped of the show and unplugged so they are vulnerable and their talent is on full display.
Speaking of high notes, KISS' Heaven's on Fire starts with possibly the highest note Paul's ever hit.
I think he hit higher on "Nowhere to Run" and "I was Made for Lovin' You"
The beginning of Heaven's On Fire yeah is super high, but for a a whole song it has to be "My Way"
@@docblalock1870 I love Nowhere To Run! (well both of them)
That's why they tuned a half step down in the 90s. Paul's voice just couldn't hit those notes show after show. Probably got him an extras decade of singing.
Im going with the slide up in 100,000 years.
KISS is a band with LONGEVITY! They hit a spot, long ago, that NO ONE ELSE was on. I love a fair amount of their music. I especially love their work ethic. Long live KISS! #KISSARMY
Definitely worth reviewing Paul Stanley singing 'I STILL LOVE YOU' from the MTV KISS UNPLUGGED show. Many other comments here support this too......great powerful & emotional ballad with Paul in epic form!! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
Kiss has sooooo many songs and soooo many different sounds. This is just one example. Please check out more songs
How about Christine Sixteen 🤣
yeah, actually imo all their best stuff is the songs no one even knows about.
Mr. Speed
War Machine
I stole your love
etc, etc.. you know
@@hustler666100yeah, that's not weird at all.
Crazy how back then no one cared. They ALL did groupies: Steven Tyler, Ted Nugent, on and on and on. No one cared. A different time, different age..
A Million to One
Jungle
Nowhere to Run
Take Me Away (Together as One)
The list goes on
Yeah, they all sang lead at one time or another. Well, not this lineup, but the classic lineup.
You should have picked the Unplugged version of I Still Love You. It’s soulful and a great representation of Stanley’s vocal abilities.
But this is a much better representation of what kiss was. Good choice for a first listen
As a vocalist/voice instructor, you'd really appreciate "I was made for loving you". Many diehards aren't crazy about it because they say it's a "Sellout", which it is (by their own addmition ) but it IS a great tune, shows off the groups style range and Paul's vocal range, hits an A5; Admittedly it's in falsetto but it's clean and sustained. You've got to check it out.
People who talk about selling out are just posers and don't care about music one bit. Off with them i say.
Some have already mentioned it, but "I Still Love You" from the MTV Unplugged performance is a MUST. Also listening to "Forever" from the KISS Symphony 2003 performance where they had an orchestra with them.
Personally think KISS are brilliant. A lot of very good songs. People enjoy attacking them, but they're fun and put on a great show.
I agree but people are all about the one hit wonders of today not great bands like KISS that will be remembered forever not forgotten in a week like new so called bands.
I agree, the Kiss songs that I like are so fun they tickle my mind every time I hear them:)
@@magicpumpkin3it's not new though, I was into the rock and metal scene in the 80s and 90s and KISS was absolutely reviled, they were seen as lame and cheesy but most seriously the ultimate sell outs and inauthentic. When grunge came along and killed the glam metal scene it was worse. These were not people interested in one hit wonders disliking them.
I'm older and a little wiser now and while it's not quite my thing I can see the appeal, the comcis and lunch boxes and gimmics kind of fades away and I think it may be more than nostalgia that keeps people listening and if they enjoy it nobody should be angry about it, being upset someone is harmlessly enjoying something you don't like us just too dumb and exhausting.
@@101Mant Sure some people hated KISS but they have keep a big fan base that is loyal for decades.
I was also around for the 80's and 90's.
I think people should remember if bands suck why are they remembered?
I agree, the fact that a average at best talent band can stay around so long is impressive. Keep in m8nd i was a kiss fan when i was 12 but grew out of it. Can someone tell me why when a kiss song comes on the radio the sound quality is shit . BTW this is my favorite kiss song and this video sounds like shit
Detroit Rock City was the first song I ever heard by KISS. I remember sitting in front of the radio with my mouth open and for the first time really knowing what kind of music I really loved. There was no internet back then and KISS weren't shown on TV in our area either. The first time I saw them on the cover of Destroyer I was absolutely mesmerised and speechless. KISS were simply breathtaking at the time and there was nothing like them. When I saw KISS live for the first time, it was the second decisive experience in my musical development. The support act was a band from England called IRON MAIDEN. I will never forget that concert for the rest of my life.
Awesome! My story is similar
I was that same kid. I bought all of the teen magazines, the trading cards that made a poster…and I was a disciple of rock, brother!
Paul Stanley and Paul di´Anno. Will never forget that experience! This war my first concert at all and one of the very best. Many years later in the end of the 80ies I saw both bands again at Monsters of Rock in Bochum. Unbelievable. Time passages. I am so grateful that I was able to experience this.
The best thing about this video is that the crowd noise at the beginning prevented it from being interrupted for almost a minute.
All I can say is I love your honesty. Just because I love "RUSH" does not mean that you have to. No disrespect at all - only admiration for being honest !!!
Cheers !!!
KISS - I STILL LOVE YOU (MTV Unplugged)
Yep.
Apex Paul Stanley
I second this!
Up
definitely!
The members of the band did their own makeup as characters they wanted to be. Paul: Rock star, Ace: Space man, Gene: Demon, Peter: Cat man
Let's not forget Eric Carr as the chicken....I mean, the hawk. Then the fox.
Which Eric was the Fox in this Performance
Thanks for the history lesson turbo. And Paul started out with a bandit mask and then switched over to a star.
At their core, Kiss is catchy, simple, hard rock with pop influences, all wrapped up in a fantasy/horror/superhero package. If you dig deeper they have an incredibly varied catalog. And for millions of kids my age in the late 70s, they were the reason we started picking up instruments. We couldn't figure out how to play Rush or Zeppelin, but we could play Kiss songs. Their influence is immeasurable.
Textbook definition right here my friend.
I sometimes wonder if I am the only person actually paying attention, instead of playing a roll.
It's good to see you out in the wild, slinging those logical deductions around, for the fine folks on the
WWW to ingest.
Growing up in the 70's and 80's myself and All my friends were in the KISS "Army" 💪👍💯🇺🇲♥️♥️♥️
I had a denim jacket full of the patches and a big back patch of course when i was like 11. Damn those badges were cool.
@@fu6817 HELLZ YEAH!! 👍🙂💯
"He looks like he wants to devour them." Oh you sweet summer child, you have NO idea.
Devour is the right word! Search for “Gene Simmons Polaroids.”
He was the demon lord for crying out loud
He sure "devoured" a lot of groupies! 🤣
@@hubtal 😝
What that tongue did
I recorded a Kiss cover once ("Love Gun") and by the second verse you could hear my throat closing up. Literally had tears in my eyes. 😆
I think the "extra sound" she's hearing in Paul's vocal is the fact that it sounds like it's doubletracked. Either they put a slight delay on his vocal at the soundboard, or, at some point, he went back in the studio and overdubbed a second vocal track.
they ran it through a chorus
@@kevincason5309 That's more than chorusing. That sounds like two voices, like a put a little delay, like a very slight slap back delay.
@@Kohntarkosz sure. i think we'd agree they gave him some help. which is to say they used tech to make the product better.
For some reason, Paul was convinced to double the vocals when they were editing the footage before it was first seen on TV in Australia. That’s why sometimes it’s sound like phasing, and other times one of the two vocals has a longer tail.
Bingo! Thanks. I could hear it was doubled and not an effect. Appreciate the verification.
KISS just "retired" after 50 years. Paul's voice has taken its toll but KISS performs! Has been my favorite band for ever and 62 years young....
KISS is not a band you went to see for the singing, the music, or the songwriting. You went to see them for the show. And put on a show , they did.🤘
Like Marilyn Manson. A circus.
so you went to see a shit show literally lol if they can't sing & the music sucks, etc why bother??
@@msaltalolapeople easily attracted to bright lights and shiny things.
I vehemently disagree with all of that. Paul was one of the all time greats as a singer. And as far as simple short (albeit dumb) rock songs, they were as good as anyone.
@@MetalPersonJall time greats? Sure, in a list of 100,000 vocalists he sits firmly at 100,000
Seen them a couple of times live. Paul still sings like that. He kept his voice to this level until now. People can say what they want about KISS, but you can't say they aren't great showmen. They light up the stage and give you all the bang for your buck.
The thing about Kiss that always got me was, the music sounds like fun. As I got realized, one of the things I loved about rock music is when you listen to it, it's like electricity flying through your body. That's what I've always felt. Kiss also has a lot of good melodic songs, with great sing along choruses. Also, if you analyze the guitar parts, there's lots of interesting things going on in a lot of the songs. The two guitars aren't playing the same parts, a lot of times, they're playing different inversions. They might be both be playing an E chord, but Paul might be playing it as an open positioned chord, while Ace might be playign further up the fingerboard, on the upper strings. So there's a lot more sophistication to the music than I think most people realize.
Years later, Paul Stanley played in the Phantom of the Opera.Stanley got a call from his agent asking if he’d be interested in auditioning for the part of the Phantom and got to play him with the Toronto company, what he calls “the hardest work I’ve ever done.” When that ended, he went back to concentrating on his highly successful band, but gained an even greater appreciation for the art form.
KISS Songs to check out
• I Was Made For Loving You
• Tears are Falling
• Heavens on Fire
• I Love It Loud
• I Want to Rock & Roll All Night
• BETH
• Lick It Up
• Put the "X" in Sex
• Love Gun
• You Make Me Rock Hard
• Unholy
I have one thing to say about KISS, they put on a good show. I saw them live in the late 70's and it was a great experience that I really enjoyed.
My very first album ever in the early 70's. I've never been the same. I wanted Cold Gin before I even knew what it was.
Their style and theatrics grabbed our attention in the 70's. Releasing two "live" albums also helped build excitement to see them. My friends and I dressed up as KISS for a 6th grade end-of-school show. I was Ace, and we did Rocket Ride. I even strapped a smoke bomb to the back of my guitar for the guitar solo. Luckily, we were the last act of the day, so the principal wasn't too hard on us for it. Everyone wanted to be KISS!!
Just a quick note about this. Paul's singing style in this live version is a bit different than the studio version. When you get time, check out the original studio version.
Yeah, the studio voice is singing in proper harmonies and melodies. The live version is him just showing off, lol.
KISS was an iconic band that spanned generations. I was lucky enough to the original band. A once in a lifetime experience.
tonight you belong to me from paul's first solo album is a tour de force for his singing as well. what always bothered me was people who dismissed their talents because they found the show to be over the top. so they didn't get it. it was like going to the circus with a great rock band. genius.
I’ve seen them 4 times in my life, once in each of the past 4 decades, and they always put on a great show. Despite the comments about not being great musicians but entertainers, I think they were both. Paul Stanley was a great vocalist and guitarist. Gene Simmons was good singer and great bassist. Ace Frehley was not a good singer but was a great guitarist. And Peter Criss was an awesome drummer that sang well when given the chance. I think for their performance, it was mostly about giving their audience a wonderful experience and memory.
Really I think he's the best singer of the band peter was good to
I saw them in Atlanta before there first album came out the out fits were home made they were awesome!
They were both great singers and showmen.
They have so many great songs, both in 70's and in 80's.
In the mid 70’s there was nothing like Kiss, no stages that size, no light or smoke machines like they had, the were no AC/DC, no Judas Priest, no Van Halen, nor Iron Maiden, that’s what made them great, even these groups were their opening act in different tours.
The music was not complicated, songs about simple things that made life good in those years. Their stage presence was great, they are more than 6 foot tall guys in high heels, cool costumes, they were the super heroes that played hard rock. And they had a huge merchandising, you could not get another band lunch box or an action figure or anything you can imagine. I think all that is what made them stand out in many things that didn’t exist back then.
No light shows? Seriously? Blue Oyster Cult had a full-blown laser light show way before these guys were anything. And BTW, Kiss used to open for the Cult. Like Ace Frehley said..."it was never about the music"...no shit. Shallow crap.
Big stages, lights, smoke... their Kiss Alive album came out in the 70s. I saw them on a small stage many times. Any lights (except for the flashing red lights for Fire House) was probably the club's. After a bit, they were an opening act at concerts. The Alice Cooper Band had huge stage shows in the 70s.
My first concert was KISS, Seattle Center Arena, November 1979. Concert price: $9, almost top of the market in those days. It was an eye-opening experience for my 15-year old self. Having seen literally hundreds of concerts since, including probably 10 by KISS, I can say without any hesitation that there is simply no other crowd like a KISS crowd: not necessarily the loudest or rowdiest, but there is no mistaking them for any other fans.
This video was made 44 years ago! 44! And KISS is still rocking today. I saw them in 2000 and they were fantastic! Same energy, same looks, same great sound as the 70s and 80s. Go see them today and it's still the same KISS. Love them or hate them you can't deny they put on a great show, always sound amazing, and never seem to age. They are timeless American icons.
OMG! You have to listen to the Kiss song... I still love you (live from MTV unplugged 1995) You will freak out when I see how long Paul Stanley can hold a note with vibrato! It's all acoustical, and absolutely mind-blowing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you like ballads like that? ugh
I can't stand that crap
Watch the MTV Unplugged from 95 doing I Still Love You for some of Paul's most amazing vocals. No make up. No bombast. Just pure musical talent. You won't be disappointed.
Kiss is my all time favorite band. Fell in love with the power of the music in 1978 i was only 10. They have such great energy that makes you want to jump up and air jam with them. Im a 56 year old hard rocker. i even love bands like five finger death punch, disturbed, godsmack, guns an roses, van halen ,ac/dc and more. But bar none they are best showmen in rock.
Love KISS! High energy+fuzz+distortion! Really what hard rock| heavy metal is all-about! Heard them back in 1975 for the first time{knew nothing about their stage presence}. Their music has enchanted me! This track is my phoneringing.Cheers and thank you very much!
Also, weird seeing them take a lot of flack on here. No, they weren’t elite musicians, that’s obvious.
They wrote 2-3 absolute iconic songs, they were super solid live (before Paul’s voice left him) and they always delivered a spectacular show. Oh yeah, they’ve sold over 100 million albums. That puts them in very rarified air.
So, if you’re looking for absolute vocal/musical brilliance, no. If you’re looking for solid musicianship, consistency, and absolute stellar showmanship that is probably responsible for most of the stage shows you see today, these are the guys.
You mean the big light shows and costume crap that all kinds of folk whine about ruining the shows these days?
@@neilpatrickhairlessNo, that would be bands that don’t play entirely live and lip synch.
My favorite KISS story is from one time when their ride back to the hotel after the show was stuck in traffic, so they walked. They were still in costume & makeup but the crowd from the show was so dressed up for the show that no one could tell it was them. Says it all about what an experience their shows were!
KISS was the best kind of "famous" back in the day. No one knew what they looked like, so they could walk down the street and everyone left them alone. Also, the tabloids wouldn't publish photos of them without makeup because the mystery of it sold more papers.
@@seanj3667 It was definitely a different time. For people who didn't live through the 70s and 80s it's hard to comprehend just how popular KISS was. They would have concerts shown on prime time TV. The same time slots that were usually reserved for things like Muhammad Ali fights, The World Series, etc. Very few music acts had the massive level of popularity it took to do that especially considering there were only 3 TV stations across the entire country. I remember Elton John being another so that speaks to the level of fame and popularity they had.
@@seanj3667 The National Enquirer did.
My favorite one is when Paul Stanley met Guns n Roses for the first time. Paul said, they played some recordings for him and he was really impressed. Paul then said he made a couple of suggestions on a couple of songs, and that he was blown away by their live show. Paul also said Slash kept asking him how to get endorsement deals for free equipment. In a later interview (after GnR made it big) Slash said Paul had a diva attitude, tried to tell them what to do and how to do it, nobody in GnR even liked KISS. Really ran Paul over the coals. Paul then said, a few months later, Slash called him wanting more advice on getting endorsement deals. Paul asked him about the interview and Slash admitted to saying those things. Paul said, "piece of advice kid, don't s*** where you eat." and hung up. In later interviews, Slash kind of admitted, he knew he had screwed that one up.
Slash seems to have unscrewed up, dude has sold more Les Pauls than Gibson themselves and he doesn't even play real Les Pauls. How many Ibanez did Paul sell?
Hi Elizabeth! I grew up with this band. Their goal was always to be larger than life. And have a in your face attitude. Paul actually has a powerhouse voice. I think it was the 90s where he performed with the Canadian tour of Phantom. I'd recommend looking at the MTV Unplugged Kiss performance. In particular the song I Still Love You which really shows off his breath and vocal control. Also The Kiss symphony in Australia with Melbourne Symphony Orchestra (wearing makeup) would be a lot of fun for you.
They are an iconic band, all American and much respected. They paid their dues and they performed for us. They taught us it was OK to be wild and enjoy life. I saw them in the 70s and that sound and love for us made us feel great about being ourselves. No one else had done that before except Alice Cooper, Twisted Sister and Bon Jovi.
I never understood the questioning of their musicianship. All the iconic riffs and melodies. Gene's bass lines. Paul's solid rhythm work. Ace and Peter never over playing, only what the song required. (When able due to substance abuse). I do agree their lyrics were throw away, for the most part.
Marketing, yes. Imagery, yes. But bottom line is I heard and liked their music long before I ever saw a picture of them.
The issues is “all the song required” was very bad, especially by todays standards. Back then they were on par with many of the mediocre bands of the time. If you grew up during that time and were a fan you’re gonna be fueled by nostalgia rather than unbiased opinion.
I became a fan in the 90s as a kid. Love their music more than most bands of the 70s and 80s still to this day
@@TheMedicinalManCan't argue the nostalgia part. I was 10 in 1975 when I first heard Rock and Roll All Nite off the Alive album on the radio. Four months later I was gifted the Album for Christmas. That's when I first saw what they looked like. I like them as much as Black Sabbath, Led Zep, Aerosmith, any hard rock band. My ears liked what they heard.
By "required" I too am referring to today's standards where there often is too much playing. I don't need to hear an Eruption caliber solo in every song, nor do I need to hear a drummer nearly the entire length of the composition with feet as fast as Fred Flintstone's while trying to get his car going.
I'm definitely biased.😊
Gene sucks as a bass player. Listen to his bass intro on Shout It Out Loud, it sucks!!!!
@@alwaysemployed656 I'm a trained bass player. Your comment is false. He's a solid rock player and always has been. You just hate the makeup.
My first concert was Kiss, with AC/DC opening! I was three and half years old. Our seats were on Gene's side of the stage. The two memories that have stuck with me are the fire and explosions around Gene, and Angus Young of AC/DC in his schoolboy outfit. I dressed up as Gene Simmons for Halloween for several years in a row after that.
Awesome!!! My first concert was Elvis, seriously. My first concert with just friends and no adults, Nugent, Aerosmith, AC/DC, Mahogany Rush, and St Paradise.
Regarding the sustained singing by Paul, consider some of these things:
1. Gene, and occasionally Ace and Peter, took over lead vocals on different set list songs. So, Paul wasn't singing lead from beginning to end of show.
2. Their show was all about theatrics. Prolonged drum and guitar solos along with other theatrics gave time for vocal breaks.
3. I don't know why fans chose this song to showcase the best of what KISS had to offer musically, but it was certainly a fan favorite as it opened a show with a theatrical punch to the face. But there are other songs done by Paul which would have better showcased his range.
With all that said, KISS set the bar very high for other bands and artists to up their stage game, which, for their time was not done to that level. KISS wasn't known for their musical prowess (it wasn't bad. In fact it was good. But rarely was it stellar), but when you listened to their songs you imagined their shows. Very powerful. They were a childhood favorite of mine.
Detroit Rock City is deceiving, its rocky but the attacking note vocally is C5 full voice
With Kiss it's so much more than just the music. There is a whole vibe and presence with this band. When I was a young kid in the late 1980's, I went out to my Dad's part of the garage where he had a stereo with an 8 track player. Just imagine being a young kid, finding this odd technology, and seeing the album cover that is Kiss - Destroyer. It left an impression on me that I will NEVER forget. Even for me as a kid who was graduating around 2002, Kiss was by far one of my favorite bands. Mad respect for them.
KISS is an experience and were shocking to many parents when they arrived in the 70s and is the first music where my parents and I parted ways. To me songs like Deuce, Parasite, Shock Me were an escape from my boring, confined, controlled Catholic school life. KISS was my way of giving the finger.
Wild because the band members are hardcore Conservatives like your parents
Paul's voice was shot by the last few years of touring(they quit touring at the end of 2023) But he still put every ounce of energy he had into every performance
Not just a concert but a friggin’ show. This band took you on a ride and left you exhausted. At the end of the show you knew you’d never forget it!
There is so much for you to explore with them. Paul starred in a Toronto production of The Phantom of the Opera (as the Phantom) fin 1999. In 2003 KISS performed with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra in 2003 and released a live album of it. And I think my favorite Paul Stanley solo song is "I Still Love You" from Creatures of the Night from 1982. In the 80's his voice increased in range, power, and versatility. To me, KISS has always been a creative force, and always put on a great show.
Kiss is from New York but they were embraced by us in Detroit! We use this an official Anthem for the City of Detroit! Detroit IS Rock City!
I remember when Pail Stanley was in "The Phantom of the Opera" , still was suprised with how much he related with the character with himself being born without an ear
Wow. That was an emotional experience. I'd always thought of myself as a bit of a KISS fan. The first album I ever bought was KISS Destroyer (which has Detroit Rock City on it). But when you compared them to Iron Maiden, the utter outrage I felt tells me maybe I'm not that much of a KISS fan after all :)
What gets lost in the mix is they wrote so many great hard rock songs...more than just a great show
All I have to say is to experience the vocal capabilities of Paul Stanley is to watch what they did on MTV unplugged and he sang “I still love you”. You definitely will be intrigued.
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His vocals on this are heavily dubbed. That's later era Stanley on alot of this. I think they " fixed" alot of material for the KISSTORY DVDs
Absolutely! I still love you, unplugged Version, unbelivable.. she has to react to that!!
Unplugged mtv I Still Love you. Vocals are awesome.
"I still love you" is a great showcase for Paul's voice
Especially their acoustic version on the Unplugged album
Peter Criss from Kiss performing Beth. And, i think you would greatly enjoy their album, "The Elder." No one ever seems to talk about that album or uave a respect for it. I love it.
Elizabeth, a little bit of KISS trivia for you: Paul Stanley was born with one ear (left); Gene Simmons was a school teacher
Ace Frehley was a plumber?! 😂😂😂😂😂
I recently took my teenagers to see KISS (current lineup) at the Hollywood Bowl. Whether or not you think they're great musicians, songwriters, or singers, they are incredible performers dedicated to giving their fans a show to remember. When you think of a "rock concert", these guys set the bar. That show was something my kids will remember for life.
Kiss have just recentley retired from touring. Paul is now 72, and has had some vocal issues for the past few years, but he was truly one of the best for many years.
Detroit rock city is from 1976, so it’s a very old song although it’s from my favorite record destroyer.
I recommend listening to various eras of the Kiss catalogue because they are rather versatile while still maintaining their signature approach.
One of my very favorite back-up vocal sound is Simmons singing the back-up in I Was Made For Loving You, for the same reasons you spoke about in this live performance - the command and the mix with Stanley's voice is awesome. One of my favorite choruses in music!
"KISS!"
I've been a fan of KISS going on, good lord, forty plus years, and I can honestly say most of the music is very good. However, it is the live shows that make it even better.
Thanks for finally getting to KISS.
Mike You have been a KISS fan for only forty years ??!! clearly either a "late comer", too young or in some limited location, residence, country 😙
KISS became a sensation as they were introduced to the public fifty years ago; more so as they were introduced within the 'commercial' RockNRoll scene.
Then introduced to the public more via public, live, tour shows, as they became available, popular with their "theatrics" including costumes, costume changers, pyrotechnics, while remaining with their "unknown" actual appearance mystique.
Apparently they were originally a "Studio Band" which became commercial success, then live performance, show, presentation, theatrical success too.
Always, still remember, recall the first time, instance, one of my close buddies played their first released album with the cover photo, along with others within that same time period.
It was a revival period which clearly opposed the poor "Disco" era, though it had some good melodic aspects and close dancing; but Booooring, repetitive, lacking creativity - current "Pop" is quite similar though better than the horrible, meaningless, mostly disgusting "Rap" [heard the earl versions first in 1980 - Yuuuck, horrible disgusting, etc.]
The ABSOLUTE **MUST** for Kiss vocals... you gotta do "I Still Love You" from MTV Unplugged. Paul Stanley was unparalleled vocal greatness. Unfortunately all of this "power" caught up with him about 15 years ago, and he has since truly struggled vocally. He had to have throat surgery at one point even, but continued to struggle. But for the first 35 years in the spot light, no one could touch what he was particularly doing, with vocal range, power, showmanship, and style.
You should also totally check out his performance as the Phantom, "Music of the Night" for sure. He got RAVE reviews for that performance, with one music teacher saying she'd never seen a performance so perfect and sincere. it was very personal for Paul, as he was born with a facial deformity and consequently is deaf in one ear.
On a final note, every one in Kiss sings, including replacement members. So you've got nine total vocalists for this band. All of them unique, and some quite great.
I remember being really impressed with Paul's vocals, as never before, when KISS KILLERS was released in 1982, it was a greatest hits record with 4 new songs included, his singing on those 4 new songs was very impressive.
Agreed. Paul was in top form on UNPLUGGED.
Re: The guitar solo "It'd be really easy to play along with or sing along with."
That's the answer right there why KISS was so popular. It was rock music that was easily consumable by masses of people in terms of lyrics, melody, and rhythm. Whether you were a player of music or just a listener of it.
I think any of us here on your channel who play guitar, bass, or drums and have grew up on pop and rock music have gone through a KISS phase. We all learned songs like "Detroit Rock City", and "Rock And Roll All Night" starting out, because it was simple enough for us then-novices to play, and popular enough that the other kids would go "Hey man, that's awesome!"
A good confidence builder when we were young and learning our instruments, and then we eventually decided to spread our wings and find our own directions in music, and raise the complexity level a bit.
Your analysis is FANTASTIC!