Hi, just read the back and forth between you and the other guy. You paid for it with money you worked for and understandably feel let down, so you are perfectly entitled to your view. It's a shame an argument started between you and the previous person who posted. Gentlemen! Try to remember these are ultimately just toys, and there's no point in falling out over such trivial things. Life really is way too short to stress over this stuff. Peace to all and hand shakes and hugs all around.
I am running these on the video with the original tail servo. www.monkeyhobby.com/kds-cyclic-metal-digital-servo-n320s-for-chase-360-agile-a3-and-450-level-rc-helicopters/
One thing that helped me when I was first starting out in helis was realizing that the BNF on the blade helis does not stand for ‘bind and fly’, in reality it’s more so ‘bind and fix’. 😂
Here's the thing . . . , not all "Pilots?" have your skill level which is why I used the Question Mark. The majority of pilots who will be purchasing Blade Helis most likely are not SAB Customers also, if you get my point. They won't require high performance servos that an experienced Pilot would use on a SAB Heli. The Servos it comes with are used to help keep the price of the Heli Down and also provide a respectable amount of performance for the Heli as well.
You are right. I agree with that point of view. When this video was made, I had recently reached a new advanced level and was flying more aggressively. It is true that a high percentage of the Blade owners won’t fly this way. The thing I complained about on this video is the fact that even though the servo is made to keep cost down during the original purchase; when it is time to replace it, Spektrum wants us to pay high end servo pricing. The aluminum servos on this video are of much better quality and specs at 40% more affordable than the original Spektrum servos. I want to thank you for watching my videos and taking the time to comment. Please subscribe.
I appreciate you're honesty. I feel kind of bad now in a way, as I'm still a novice, and learned on an OMP M1 and M2, and it sounds like I might've been spoiled flying these as my learning helis, and I'm in for disappointment with these blades. Since I'm still a novice, I haven't really developed a flying "Style" yet. I went on somewhat of a buying spree, and purchased a few Blade helis. I have a brand new 360 still sitting in the box, and from everything I've read, the first thing you want to do is to CHANGE out the servos. Many people have stated this. Seems everyone is using the KST DS215MG v3.0's for cyclic, and a Torq CL0306T for the rudder. One Blade I'm about fly, is the 230S V2, NOT the SMART version. It was used, but as people lie, I was told, "Only 2 flights". Well when it arrived, the tail blade was missing. Oh well. Going over the pre-flight, everything seems fine, but when I hooked up the battery to check blade alignment it was way off, which I'm sure is to be expected. I'm going to align the blades within the next few days, as I have to work. I'm hoping the 230, which everyone seems to say is a good blade heli, lives up to that. Again, thank you for the info on the 360. I've subbed to your channel. Wish me luck with the 230S V2.
Good luck my friend. 230s is a great helicopter to learn but nothing will compare to your m1 or m2 until to fly Goosky or other OMP helis. Thank you for subscribing.
HI HF, Just sub'd. I'm just getting started in RC helis. About 2 years of practice. Doing my first kit build right now. Lots to learn. I have the F-360 (on 6s, not the cheesy 3s they offer now) and I appreciate your opinion. After owning 4 different Blade brand helis, and lots of NuBe crashes, I too have spent thousands on replacement parts. I actually decided to learn to repair the gears in them. There is only one gear that usually fails, yet they sell you the whole set...Still cheaper than the whole servo. I think I'll take your advice and stop buying from them. Enjoyed watching your skills. I hope to work up to that level soon. Thanks!
Hello friend! Thank you for subscribing and for watching my videos. Yes, you will spend lots of money learning with Blade or Spektrum. Since you have the 6s model, look at this amazing battery deal! www.ebay.com/itm/334514999826?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Nfi9a8d2SJu&sssrc=2051273&ssuid=Nfi9a8d2SJu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
i have 4 blade helis problems with all of them out of box and if you make a bad comment about them you get all kinds of bashing from everbody i spend more time buying parts and trying to fix these helicopters very frustating and expensive
The most frustrating brand I have ever purchased as a newbie and as a advanced pilot! Thank you for watching my videos and please subscribe. I can use another heli friend!
Wow i'm very surprised to hear such negative feedback towards this heli. Recently i saw few videos from different authors and all of them were giving highly positive feedback and were suggesting to get this heli, they also said it is so stable and 'locked in'. Now i'm not sure to whom believe :)
The helicopter is not bad and it is true that it is locked in. It is a great performer. The problem with this heli is that the servos eventually give up in flight causing more damages. The problem is that I have only had this problem with the servos they include in their kits. The servos that replaced the Spektrum ones on this video are over 11 years old from another kit and were flown hard for those 11 years and are still performing great. I’m not ok with electronics failing in the air on a machine so dangerous as a helicopter. Also please keep in mind that the way I fly is hard on the servos and most people that buy this model do not push the servos to their limit as I might have done.
@@AnDr1LLox oh i see, thanks for the details, yes i'm not going to smack hard 3d, i'm still learning and looking for a next heli machine because i got bored of my mini heli (XK K100 with 100mm blades). I rather prefer some soft floaty flight with some 3d figures still, so maybe servos would not fail that fast :) i'm rather worried that in some other video i saw how some 'slight' crash caused shaft or grips bending, so i wonder what your damage usually was in crashes of this heli?
@@cutefoxRC usually when the Fusion 360 crashes, the blades break, the servo links bend forcing the servo arm, the main gear strips, the head links to the grips also bend or fly off. The main shaft is pretty resilient and not always bends as long as you are fast on the throttle hold switch.
I have been flying mine for a year now. And no problem at all but I’m not flying smack 3-D just normal flying with some flips and rolls etc no tik tok etc on 3s . Just a comparison, does it compare to a sab kraken ? Nope but a great beginner to intermediate heli in my opinion .
I've got a question that I hope you can enlighten me on. It's not about the 360 but the 480 with the fc6250 flb unit. I had a tail rotor servo drift and someone told me to go into my NX8 and go to foward programming and choose ---- calibrate!!!!! Well that caused the flybarless unit to be stuck in the failsafe mode. Or at least that what the flashing light indicates. Do you know what to do to get it unstuck or back to flying ready? I wish now I didn't do the calibration but hopefully I didn't kill the unit. Help a brother out.
The unit is fine and is not bad. It is kind of hard to explain but I will do my best. When you calibrate the transmitter, you will have to reprogram the FBL unit. What the FBL was used to read as the normal values are now a different input due to the transmitter now sending a variation of what it was before. Essentially, the FBL unit may be reading an input you are not making. It is because the calibration has changed what the FBL thought was 0 value. What I mean is that before the calibration, the FBL unit thought the value before the calibration was zero even though it really wasn’t. After the calibration, the FBL unit now thinks there is a small input being made all the time while the sticks are at rest at 0 value. I will share a video with you that will fix this problem. Please follow it with detail. As far as the tail servo, with this FBL unit you have to make sure it is at 0 pitch mechanically when the FBL is powered up. If you go to forward programming and go to tail adjust there will be a setting that allows you to adjust this. Tail Sub trim is the name of it and it allows for adjustment on the tail in an electronic way in order to get around the mechanical setup. I always prefer mechanical accuracy but it is much harder to do.
@@AnDr1LLox Thankyou very much for the reply very informative. I am going to watch the video now. I didn't cailbrate the TX I calibrated the flybarless unit in foward programming. I understand that calibrating the transmitter would cause that effect. The tail servo would actually drift to the inside and be at full tilt. I did go into sub trim and adjust that but I thought that was not the correct way so someone suggested to calibrate the flb. Man did that piss me off. I guess I can just reprogram the unit if it lets me do a factory reset, I havent done that yet, so you think I should?
@@28EduardoSierra I don’t know if you are asking me or Sawyer but those Spektrum servos fail in the air. Was going to sell the Fusion 360 too but then I realized I had these servos laying around.
@@AnDr1LLox I was asking you I've never had that issue with them unless I crashed then I always replace all the gears in all of them or go through them before flight bc then they will fail
@@28EduardoSierra that defeats the purpose of having metal gears. The servos on this heli now are over 10 years old and have been crashed at least 20 times on a heli the same size. Your comment confirms how shitty the servos actually are! You can still get these servos at monkeyhobby.com at an amazing price.
Thank you my friend. CoeShow619 is one of my favorite pilots due to the way he makes the helicopters look in the air. I appreciate to be compared to him. I even fly my 500 sized helis in my backyard!
@@AnDr1LLox It is not locked to just the Fusion 360 Heli! You can update the FC-6250 Firmware to the Version 5.6 update and then you can use it on any helicopter. You will have to go through all of the setup again
@@AnDr1LLox and Richard Simmons, that update is for open stock 6250 so my question is will the 5.6 update REALLY...UNLOCK this unit like an openstock first time setup fc6250hx??? Richard, have you done this update to a BNF Blade Fusion 360 FC6250HX with success?? It would be awesome to save $225 on my next build. Helifreak, have you done the update yet to see if it infact does work?
yes, i totally agree with you about Blade and Spektrum. I got into helis with Blade and Spektrum and knowing what i know now its very clear that they are all about the bottom line. I recently got a tx16s and im flying Omp and Goosky helis now. So very happy i switched. Keep up the good work.🤙
I appreciate the honesty, I’m on my second blade heli 180 infusion and 230s smart . Always felt they were twitchy n unstable ( flybarless systems) !!! Finally found the truth !! ThAnkyou
I think blade is pretty good for introducing newcomers. Learn on the sim, the nano CPS, Mcps BL, and the 230s. Crash the ultra micros over grass, rarely any damage. The 230 is very stable and docile for its size. Unfortunately I hear the Infusion 180 is awful…. Loose head, gains way off, tail prop ect… Fusion 180 is now awesome thanks to Helifreak here sharing his tuning. Really nice, you could learn smack 3d on it…. That’s once you fix the gains of course. The 360 Fusion Smart is my largest heli so far. And I dare say… if your in the same boat as me you will love the 360. However i will be going easy on it till I upgrade the servos and go 4s. Here’s a beginner/intermediate flight I recorded. ua-cam.com/video/ma7o8rmDBuk/v-deo.html
The mCPxBL2, 230s, are good for first heli... 180 is nice... and the Fusion 270 was really nice Blade heli, but no more availabe. After 360 I think that I'm also done with this brand. I'm rookie 6 monts of experience, but i'm really disapointed about this heli, even on 4s pack.
HeliFreak, I have found the same thing with spektrum servo's. Two of my cyclic servo's died and were so hot they buned my finger. I'm sure that's not right. So my question is, on your Fusion 360 what brand and size of servo did you use to replace the 3 cyclic's with? And do you have to measure the size to get the holes to line up for mounting? The tail servo seems fine for now but I'm not taking any chances. I don't really want to buy 3 new servo's just to find they can't be mounted. Thanks in advance
Here is a link for these servos I used on this video. A perfect fitting replacement that lined up perfectly for mounting. www.monkeyhobby.com/kds-cyclic-metal-digital-servo-n320s-for-chase-360-agile-a3-and-450-level-rc-helicopters/
The tail servo has not failed me yet. Here is a link for the matching tail servo. I have not tried this servo yet. I will try it if my tail servo fails. www.monkeyhobby.com/kds-rudder-metal-digital-servo-n320t-for-chase-360-agile-a3-and-450-level-rc-helicopters/
Hi, just read the back and forth between you and the other guy.
You paid for it with money you worked for and understandably feel let down, so you are perfectly entitled to your view.
It's a shame an argument started between you and the previous person who posted.
Gentlemen! Try to remember these are ultimately just toys, and there's no point in falling out over such trivial things.
Life really is way too short to stress over this stuff.
Peace to all and hand shakes and hugs all around.
Wich servos you recommend to use instead the stock ones?
I am running these on the video with the original tail servo. www.monkeyhobby.com/kds-cyclic-metal-digital-servo-n320s-for-chase-360-agile-a3-and-450-level-rc-helicopters/
One thing that helped me when I was first starting out in helis was realizing that the BNF on the blade helis does not stand for ‘bind and fly’, in reality it’s more so ‘bind and fix’. 😂
This is true! I didn’t realize it until I got better at flying and learned a little more. Thank you for watching my videos!
For sure brother!!!! 👍👍👍💪💪🔥🔥
I agree stock servos sucks : positvie side this heli is light more flight time on 80percent stnt 1
Here's the thing . . . , not all "Pilots?" have your skill level which is why I used the Question Mark. The majority of pilots who will be purchasing Blade Helis most likely are not SAB Customers also, if you get my point. They won't require high performance servos that an experienced Pilot would use on a SAB Heli. The Servos it comes with are used to help keep the price of the Heli Down and also provide a respectable amount of performance for the Heli as well.
You are right. I agree with that point of view. When this video was made, I had recently reached a new advanced level and was flying more aggressively. It is true that a high percentage of the Blade owners won’t fly this way. The thing I complained about on this video is the fact that even though the servo is made to keep cost down during the original purchase; when it is time to replace it, Spektrum wants us to pay high end servo pricing. The aluminum servos on this video are of much better quality and specs at 40% more affordable than the original Spektrum servos. I want to thank you for watching my videos and taking the time to comment. Please subscribe.
I appreciate you're honesty. I feel kind of bad now in a way, as I'm still a novice, and learned on an OMP M1 and M2, and it sounds like I might've been spoiled flying these as my learning helis, and I'm in for disappointment with these blades. Since I'm still a novice, I haven't really developed a flying "Style" yet. I went on somewhat of a buying spree, and purchased a few Blade helis. I have a brand new 360 still sitting in the box, and from everything I've read, the first thing you want to do is to CHANGE out the servos. Many people have stated this. Seems everyone is using the KST DS215MG v3.0's for cyclic, and a Torq CL0306T for the rudder.
One Blade I'm about fly, is the 230S V2, NOT the SMART version. It was used, but as people lie, I was told, "Only 2 flights". Well when it arrived, the tail blade was missing. Oh well. Going over the pre-flight, everything seems fine, but when I hooked up the battery to check blade alignment it was way off, which I'm sure is to be expected. I'm going to align the blades within the next few days, as I have to work. I'm hoping the 230, which everyone seems to say is a good blade heli, lives up to that. Again, thank you for the info on the 360. I've subbed to your channel. Wish me luck with the 230S V2.
Good luck my friend. 230s is a great helicopter to learn but nothing will compare to your m1 or m2 until to fly Goosky or other OMP helis. Thank you for subscribing.
HI HF, Just sub'd. I'm just getting started in RC helis. About 2 years of practice. Doing my first kit build right now. Lots to learn. I have the F-360 (on 6s, not the cheesy 3s they offer now) and I appreciate your opinion. After owning 4 different Blade brand helis, and lots of NuBe crashes, I too have spent thousands on replacement parts. I actually decided to learn to repair the gears in them. There is only one gear that usually fails, yet they sell you the whole set...Still cheaper than the whole servo. I think I'll take your advice and stop buying from them. Enjoyed watching your skills. I hope to work up to that level soon. Thanks!
Hello friend! Thank you for subscribing and for watching my videos. Yes, you will spend lots of money learning with Blade or Spektrum. Since you have the 6s model, look at this amazing battery deal! www.ebay.com/itm/334514999826?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=Nfi9a8d2SJu&sssrc=2051273&ssuid=Nfi9a8d2SJu&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
i have 4 blade helis problems with all of them out of box and if you make a bad comment about them you get all kinds of bashing from everbody i spend more time buying parts and trying to fix these helicopters very frustating and expensive
The most frustrating brand I have ever purchased as a newbie and as a advanced pilot! Thank you for watching my videos and please subscribe. I can use another heli friend!
Wow i'm very surprised to hear such negative feedback towards this heli. Recently i saw few videos from different authors and all of them were giving highly positive feedback and were suggesting to get this heli, they also said it is so stable and 'locked in'. Now i'm not sure to whom believe :)
The helicopter is not bad and it is true that it is locked in. It is a great performer. The problem with this heli is that the servos eventually give up in flight causing more damages. The problem is that I have only had this problem with the servos they include in their kits. The servos that replaced the Spektrum ones on this video are over 11 years old from another kit and were flown hard for those 11 years and are still performing great. I’m not ok with electronics failing in the air on a machine so dangerous as a helicopter. Also please keep in mind that the way I fly is hard on the servos and most people that buy this model do not push the servos to their limit as I might have done.
@@AnDr1LLox oh i see, thanks for the details, yes i'm not going to smack hard 3d, i'm still learning and looking for a next heli machine because i got bored of my mini heli (XK K100 with 100mm blades). I rather prefer some soft floaty flight with some 3d figures still, so maybe servos would not fail that fast :) i'm rather worried that in some other video i saw how some 'slight' crash caused shaft or grips bending, so i wonder what your damage usually was in crashes of this heli?
@@cutefoxRC usually when the Fusion 360 crashes, the blades break, the servo links bend forcing the servo arm, the main gear strips, the head links to the grips also bend or fly off. The main shaft is pretty resilient and not always bends as long as you are fast on the throttle hold switch.
I have been flying mine for a year now. And no problem at all but I’m not flying smack 3-D just normal flying with some flips and rolls etc no tik tok etc on 3s . Just a comparison, does it compare to a sab kraken ? Nope but a great beginner to intermediate heli in my opinion .
I've got a question that I hope you can enlighten me on. It's not about the 360 but the 480 with the fc6250 flb unit. I had a tail rotor servo drift and someone told me to go into my NX8 and go to foward programming and choose ---- calibrate!!!!!
Well that caused the flybarless unit to be stuck in the failsafe mode. Or at least that what the flashing light indicates.
Do you know what to do to get it unstuck or back to flying ready? I wish now I didn't do the calibration but hopefully I didn't kill the unit. Help a brother out.
The unit is fine and is not bad. It is kind of hard to explain but I will do my best. When you calibrate the transmitter, you will have to reprogram the FBL unit. What the FBL was used to read as the normal values are now a different input due to the transmitter now sending a variation of what it was before. Essentially, the FBL unit may be reading an input you are not making. It is because the calibration has changed what the FBL thought was 0 value. What I mean is that before the calibration, the FBL unit thought the value before the calibration was zero even though it really wasn’t. After the calibration, the FBL unit now thinks there is a small input being made all the time while the sticks are at rest at 0 value. I will share a video with you that will fix this problem. Please follow it with detail. As far as the tail servo, with this FBL unit you have to make sure it is at 0 pitch mechanically when the FBL is powered up. If you go to forward programming and go to tail adjust there will be a setting that allows you to adjust this. Tail Sub trim is the name of it and it allows for adjustment on the tail in an electronic way in order to get around the mechanical setup. I always prefer mechanical accuracy but it is much harder to do.
ua-cam.com/video/R8gGjczyjC4/v-deo.html
@@AnDr1LLox Thankyou very much for the reply very informative. I am going to watch the video now.
I didn't cailbrate the TX I calibrated the flybarless unit in foward programming. I understand that calibrating the transmitter would cause that effect.
The tail servo would actually drift to the inside and be at full tilt. I did go into sub trim and adjust that but I thought that was not the correct way so someone suggested to calibrate the flb. Man did that piss me off.
I guess I can just reprogram the unit if it lets me do a factory reset, I havent done that yet, so you think I should?
The heli is good, just the electronics are meh
Can u make a video of you driving your maxx plz?
Here you go my friend! ua-cam.com/video/ZjHLRFZDL_s/v-deo.html
Lol
I recommend theta servos
I beat the life out of my 360 I never had issues ?
What happened to yours
@@28EduardoSierra I don’t know if you are asking me or Sawyer but those Spektrum servos fail in the air. Was going to sell the Fusion 360 too but then I realized I had these servos laying around.
@@AnDr1LLox I was asking you I've never had that issue with them unless I crashed then I always replace all the gears in all of them or go through them before flight bc then they will fail
@@28EduardoSierra that defeats the purpose of having metal gears. The servos on this heli now are over 10 years old and have been crashed at least 20 times on a heli the same size. Your comment confirms how shitty the servos actually are! You can still get these servos at monkeyhobby.com at an amazing price.
Mr. positivity 😂
I’m more positive in real life! Thank you for watching my videos!
Dude, no wonder the servo failed! Give it time and that servo will fail too!
The blade fusion 360 is like a 450 class helicopter and you can fly it on your backyard, that is amazing. You are like coeshow619
Thank you my friend. CoeShow619 is one of my favorite pilots due to the way he makes the helicopters look in the air. I appreciate to be compared to him. I even fly my 500 sized helis in my backyard!
@@AnDr1LLox It is not locked to just the Fusion 360 Heli! You can update the FC-6250 Firmware to the Version 5.6 update and then you can use it on any helicopter. You will have to go through all of the setup again
@@richardsimmons4526 I will look into that. Thank you for sharing.
@@AnDr1LLox and Richard Simmons, that update is for open stock 6250 so my question is will the 5.6 update REALLY...UNLOCK this unit like an openstock first time setup fc6250hx??? Richard, have you done this update to a BNF Blade Fusion 360 FC6250HX with success?? It would be awesome to save $225 on my next build.
Helifreak, have you done the update yet to see if it infact does work?
yes, i totally agree with you about Blade and Spektrum. I got into helis with Blade and Spektrum and knowing what i know now its very clear that they are all about the bottom line. I recently got a tx16s and im flying Omp and Goosky helis now. So very happy i switched. Keep up the good work.🤙
Thank you for your comment and for watching my videos. Please subscribe. OMP and Goosky are killing it!
I appreciate the honesty, I’m on my second blade heli 180 infusion and 230s smart . Always felt they were twitchy n unstable ( flybarless systems) !!! Finally found the truth !! ThAnkyou
I think blade is pretty good for introducing newcomers.
Learn on the sim, the nano CPS, Mcps BL, and the 230s. Crash the ultra micros over grass, rarely any damage. The 230 is very stable and docile for its size.
Unfortunately I hear the Infusion 180 is awful…. Loose head, gains way off, tail prop ect…
Fusion 180 is now awesome thanks to Helifreak here sharing his tuning. Really nice, you could learn smack 3d on it…. That’s once you fix the gains of course.
The 360 Fusion Smart is my largest heli so far.
And I dare say… if your in the same boat as me you will love the 360. However i will be going easy on it till I upgrade the servos and go 4s.
Here’s a beginner/intermediate flight I recorded.
ua-cam.com/video/ma7o8rmDBuk/v-deo.html
The mCPxBL2, 230s, are good for first heli... 180 is nice... and the Fusion 270 was really nice Blade heli, but no more availabe. After 360 I think that I'm also done with this brand. I'm rookie 6 monts of experience, but i'm really disapointed about this heli, even on 4s pack.
HeliFreak, I have found the same thing with spektrum servo's. Two of my cyclic servo's died and were so hot they buned my finger. I'm sure that's not right. So my question is, on your Fusion 360 what brand and size of servo did you use to replace the 3 cyclic's with? And do you have to measure the size to get the holes to line up for mounting? The tail servo seems fine for now but I'm not taking any chances. I don't really want to buy 3 new servo's just to find they can't be mounted.
Thanks in advance
Here is a link for these servos I used on this video. A perfect fitting replacement that lined up perfectly for mounting. www.monkeyhobby.com/kds-cyclic-metal-digital-servo-n320s-for-chase-360-agile-a3-and-450-level-rc-helicopters/
The tail servo has not failed me yet. Here is a link for the matching tail servo. I have not tried this servo yet. I will try it if my tail servo fails. www.monkeyhobby.com/kds-rudder-metal-digital-servo-n320t-for-chase-360-agile-a3-and-450-level-rc-helicopters/