Xcom 2 Death highlights. well Deaths.
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Good evening , Xcom 2 is finally here! We will push fighting this Alien threat for quite a while. I plan on playing through to the end of a normal game to learn for myself how the game works. After normal we move to a higher difficulty and play until we can finish an ironman game.
With the community mods available this will extend how many different runs we accomplish. I will take on some of the challenging mods and will also be coming back every so often for the DLC's.
Now i am debating with myself how much i can accomplish before either DS3 or the Division releases, those will be some of my future titles on my channel. but considering i now have 400 hours into Enemy within, Xcom 2 will probably get a similar treatment.
As always my goal is to learn enough to share tips that will help others clear this game, considering that only 27% of players had finished Enemy within on steam. This time we need to up those odds, so that others can appreciate the game as it should be. This game gets better the more you play it.
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Respect, Ronin! Not every player is courageous enough to show his unlucky and poor strategic decisions. That’s true XCOM that I like. Thank you!
Thank you for the comment. We all mess up, even if we don't admit it but mistakes are a great method of learning. So even with my mess ups, I hope others learn as I have.
How far are you on your play through?
Thanks for video! Looking forward to see more!
Well, concerning my mistakes... There were simply too many failures and it looks like “Legendary” is unbeatable for me. So, I left XCOM 2 for a while and got back to writing short stories.
No worries, i did not find the time to complete Legend Ironman yet and the division releases tonight! so i will be playing the division until Dark Souls 3 comes out next month. I don't think i have much else on my radar so i might just juggle those 3 games for a while.
Glad you enjoyed the video, what kind of short stories do you write ? Does this make you a writer by trade ?
It would be great to see your Legendary playthrough with victories and bitter defeats (as it supposed to be). I don’t want to name anyone but I suspect that some youtubers’ Ironman mode isn’t real, unless they are exceptionally lucky.
And the second question... no, just practicing, since I work with animation it’s useful to solve creative problems.
It had occured to me that some posted faked footage, which is why i leave my live stream or uncut content up and put some form of highlight when i can. No point in claiming somehting you can't accomplish.
Interesting work, animation is pretty facinating, i am not creative enough to do something like that. I will need to get creative though i am returning to college for interactive media design either this year or the next. I need a carreer change lol.
The casualty of the panicked male soldier getting stunlanced to death was so cinematic for some reason. The stun lancer also looked like he was running very urgently too, kind of like "oh no you don't !" last minute attack. I'm king of imagining the other operative looking down from the ship like "come on get to evac!", and then getting devastated by watching that stun lancer run up to him last second and tase him.
I personally think xcom could make for some very cinematic scenes. I would love one day if we had a proper film in the world of xcom.
@@RoninJeremy I think part of what made it feel so cinematic was the fact that the stun lancer took some time to arrive on the scene, kind of like in a movie where the dramatic music starts stepping in, the characters take one last parting look before the baddie delivers the killing blow, or killing shock in this situation. Also don't blame yourself for evaccing immediately, since your other guy was panicked so staying next to him could've resulted in him firing on your remaining guy.
When you overwatch a squad, the leader always moves first. So he draws the reaction shots. It was designed that way.
What I mean it isnt random. You should be able to anticipate who will draw the overwatch.
TimLee356 lol thanks 700+ hours and hadn't noticed that.
@@RoninJeremy 700 Hours at that point? do not want to sound bad man. But either you are a masochist or needed a bit of tactical analysis learning. You never start a group with your last action of a turn, EVER. specially if they are Lancers, if a lancer is active, then it has to die on that turn.
@@DerElessar sometimes you shouldn't play tired lol.
@@DerElessar Honestly, I don't ever Overwatch ambush after the first couple of missions. For a group of ADVENT troopers, it's good to have rookies getting those shots without any aim penalty. But as soon as my soldiers start getting abilities and enemies get different priorities, I'll probably just start with a sniper shot and see how to deal with the main threats after they scatter.
I always play veteran, it simply feels the most fair and fun
S. D. I agree with you, legendary is a bit much for me and its just too frustrating. Normal isn't much of a challenge.
Commander or legendary every time. The hardest puzzles are the most fun to me. Making hard decisions and sometimes sacrificing someone for the greater good just to overcome the difficulty after... It's great untill the campaign gets into a death spiral that you just can't recover from...
Commander/classic is how xcom is best played IMO. Veteran is way too easy
Destroying stairs might be a good strategy. That way, non teleporting aliens will have to either take fall damage(not sure if they can do that intentionally), or stay on the top from where they might not be able to attack xcom soldiers.
it's been a long time since I've played and it could work, I usually do that if they are on roofs. But have to be careful if it's an evac mission.
cheers!
The first time I played Ironman was the original (since the reboot) for the PS3 (It might have been Enemy Unknown), the aliens downed our ship/headquarters and my team went out to defend it but most soldiers where so badly hurt that it didnt go so well, I also recall several generic Xcom "guards" (with blue suits and caps they could only move and fire light guns) joined us just to make up the difference or something. It ended in a massacre. Surprisingly the game asked me if I wanted to retry the stage after every last soldier ended up dead (despite the ironman mode) but I figured it was literally impossible to overcome such odds (like hordes of Mutons etc) and pulled the plug on that run, It was so awesome that I have always played ironman since (and gotten the shit beat out of me in all games, including the classics like X-Com Apocalypse etc)
Seriously I believe that those that have not played all the way to the end at least once, are losing out on something special, nothing more immersive that literally going down with the ship fighting for your planet all the way to the last bitter breath, I seriously wish I could re-live this particular experience.
Huge kudos for posting your progress onwards becoming a great Xcom player, you brave brave man.
I got the David and Goliath achievement pretty early on by using my best character to just charge him with a sword after i used the rest of my troops to weaken it. There was no one around so it was perfectly fine to do it.
Cool, thanks for sharing. The game is pretty great for its strategies that can change your playstyle and still win.
Yeh i dont normally play like that anymore. But as any nerd (Human actually) would feel i felt joy when i saw i had a giant sword i could cut aliens into bits with haha.
I got the achievement for having my mind controlled Berserker get melee killed by a Muton. I just rolled with it
I got it by accident, by getting a mind-controlled Berserker killed by a Cryssalid. :P
I thought I was the only one who calls Andromedons Big Daddies...
I'm not a big Bioshock fan but cmon they look just like the Big Daddies. My psi units are the little girls I guess.
Ouh yeah the high ground - ground shooting... I remember a perfect run against 2 big robos. The last one just needed one more shot. It launches a rocket, Wracks a wall and the roof collapsed. 2 deaths on my side, after I didn't even took big injuries.
Wasn't on ironmode but I let them die, still
There is something frighening about an Andromedon, at least the first time I met one, I mean first he dies right? But then the machine attacks you while the corpse of the operator is hanging out from it... There is something fantastic about the whole concept, almost like the undead felt to me the first time I learned about them as a kid.
Fantastic! (the video too, here you go my thumbs)
Nero Mauritzen yeah it is pretty frightening, it is weird that the senior can keep going when its operator is dead.
I mean it failed at protecting it but yet it can fight without it... so why have an operator?
20:32 SNAAAAAKEEEE NOOOO
I know, he just couldn't get his box out fast enough!
The enemy soldiers decided to test out their guns on a box, I mean its only a box right? With uh... Tomatoes? Inside, yeah tomatoes.
Great video, man! I don't understand the dislikes. What, you guys don't like how Jeremy's being honest about his mistakes? Why'd you click a death montage if you didn't want to see failure?
Anywhore, 'twas entertaining.
Thanks for the comment, much appreciated! In X-Com you can't always have everyone live to tell about it lol.
Ronin Jeremy
My best soldier in Enemy Unknown had a record of 63 kills in just 20 missions. Then she was unglamourously killed by a bullshit muton with impeccable aim.
yeah, ive lost great soldiers to a 1% shot and I've missed a lot of 99% ones.
Ronin Jeremy
I've missed several 100% shots. The game is literally programmed to cripple you if you're doing too well.
mistakes? this is autism level. he deserved it all
Regarding the shot destroying the floor, compared to other things it's rather realistic. I never understood how my ranger, slashing an ennemy on the floor 3 tiles away, could destroy the roof and make two of my guys falling
I just hate when its not intentional or when the graphics just don't line up with what the actions really are. Often sucks when you end up shooting the floor underneath your feet.
23:12 Kenzo sees his squadmate fall through the roof from enemy fire. First thing he does is get the hell off the roof.
Man even 5 years later i still keep want to go back to this game. Soon enough maybe next month. I remember losing an ironman campaign to the roof collapsing with some squad waiting to evac and some acid grenade missap...
Cheers!
To get out of those types of situations, equip mindshield or get holotargetting on a grenadier or demolish to remove cover
Also revival protocol op :v
Mechani Dream yeah i very rarely use mindshield , id rather blow up an alien or there cover before relying on a pretty situational item.
I see what you mean, but you should check your soldiers stats and equip a mindshield on the person with the lowest will stat to avoid panic or psi abilities. Not only can it save you from a mind control, disorient, and even stun. Since all psi abilities are practically useless against a mindshield, you can equip a mindshield on a ranger or a heavy, and make them the frontline against an sectoid. Since sectoids love showing off their psi abilities, you can take advantage of this and abuse the psi immunity and make the sectoid lose a turn.
but instead of protecting 1 person from a psi ability id rather have a flash bang and protect the whole group, it also works on sword users, grenade users too. plus lowers their aim.I believe burning does something similar.
Heck Mimic beacon is also way less situational than a mind shield. But that's what's great about tactical games, more than one way to tackle them.
This is WAY too late for the video, but it still needs saying. You should NEVER end a turn with an overwatch trap when concieled! You have no control over targets, and if some enemies survive, they basicly get a free turn against you. The better choice is to get close, drop something that deals damage to the whole group, or something that is very likely to kill in one shot as your opening... By being as close as possible when you start, you almost guarantee that you get some easy flanks, as the AI nearly always take cover from the unity that did the initial damage.
Overwatch traps should only be used if you have lost concielment on your squad. This can help you too, as having a Ranger stay conceiled and scout targets for a good Sharpshooter to lure them into a trap using squadsight.
I usually open like this whenever possible: Scout a group with my still concieled Ranger, to see if they move. if they don't, get the rest of the troops as close as i dare to not activate. Open with a nearly guaranteed shot with my Sharpshooter, and then mop up the rest with easy flanks and abilities. It still works if they patrol, as you just put the Sharpshooter on Longwatch, and activate on their turn instead.
But when all is set and done, just use each death/injury as a learning experience, and adapt in a way that suit your own playstyle...
skynet091287 I entirely agree with you, i never use overwatch pulls, well at least anymore. the video is quite old.
i Might overwatch a few soldiers but you really want to hit the first pod hard. one thing that really helps with that strategy is the true concealment mod. without it you are kinda forced to rush and can't really setup for great openings.
thanks for the comment, really appreciate the feedback.
I always enjoy a good XCOM death montage, and if anything, XCOM is one of the purest "learn by doing" games there is. No one strategy is the best, and even the approach i mentioned can get you majorly screwed over if you get unlucky.
In regards to mods, i can't really use them, as i play on PS4, so i've gotten used to the timers by now... I'm happy to hear that the new War of the Chosen expansion allows you to double the turn timers though, even if it would be better if you could eliminate them all together. I understand why they don't let you do that, as the game would get the same feel as Enemy Unknown, where as long as you took everything nice and slow, you basicly couldn't lose a mission if you knew what you were doing...
You are totally right there about not having 1 way to play. That kinda sucks that PS4 doesn't get mods, the long war is a great mod. Even with so many hours in I make mistakes constantly. Just last night I relied on a rocket that I thought would do more damage on a pull and was left fighting 2 pods of 8 at the same time...
It was a bloodbath but luckily only 1 death, not a bad price to pay for my mistake, just sucks since most of my units are from subscribers.
I can't wait for war of the chosen next month IIRC, going to try an unmoved play though. Its been a while since I've played unmodded. The new Classes might be a bit too powerful but that may depend on the enemies too.
Is this using Long War? Honestly I can't even remember what the base game is like.
XCOM 2 is almost universally worse than XCOM for one primary reason...strict time limits. Particularly with Long War installed it is vital to use defensive options. Smoke grenades, flash bangs, suppression, and even just hunker down make a really big difference. Use an assault to reveal pods (keep him concealed if you can) and use him to activate those pods when he's not concealed. A sniper dropping one enemy with squadsight is always the best way to start an engagement, assuming you can't hit them all with a rocket or something. Hunker down can be a better option than overwatch in some situations (nearly always for an assault) because dead soldiers deal zero damage and either the shotgun or sword are quite potent at ending encounters once the pod is worn down. If you find a soldier in a bad spot it is often better to just keep your head down and let the rest of the squad cover you by going on overwatch and/or throwing smoke or flash bangs than it is to try and get out of there, you're often most vulnerable while moving. DO NOT run into the same spot to help them or have that isolated soldier run back to the squad. That's how you get your cover blown by grenades and multiple squad members either wounded or killed. Squads should run with an assault on point and a sniper bringing up the rear with the rest of the squad in a loose pack.
Really, do not underestimate the value of suppression, it really hurts a dangerous enemy's aim and often holds them in place to be outmaneuvered. Gunners in a strong position may well be used to reload and suppress again for multiple turns, which is fine, as their aim isn't fantastic anyway. Suppression also removes overwatch allowing your squad to get in if you've determined it's time to push to finish them off. If the alien does move you still get an overwatch shot at the cost of a LOT of ammo. Expanded magazines are vital for gunners. Disorienting a sectoid will cause it to lose control of anything it has mind controlled, so both animated dead and mind control will end if you flash bang them.
Thanks for the comment, I am pretty sure this was classic not LW. You have very good points The only issue I really struggle with, at least now, is the limited range you have to be in since most maps are really small and often have many enemies. Often moving up even 1 wrong tile creates multiple pods to spawn.
I agree with you about the timer in Xcom 2 but I usually mod it out to at least start once you are discovered. Sure it makes the game easier but in the end, a game should be fun right?
Cheers!
I play in easy and it is hard for me.
The game was super super easy until I got towards the end and I got destroyed every mission and the ufo got me.
You have to hate that, 94% at point blank range and .... Missed! What? How? Yet I had one squaddie crit a droid on 29% hit chance.
yeah Xcom is notorious for those misses... Worlds most elite soldiers...I guess i almost never take a low hit chance but mathematically it has to work eventually. problem IIRC xcom outcomes are already decided on turn start.
Double lancer + MEC pod is probably the worst possible pod in the first months.
Yeah, I can usually deal with one but both types is tough early on. Cheers.
@@RoninJeremy you just lack the damage to take down all three. Hell, you'd be lucky to kill two with low level soldiers and ballistic weapons. And they are all deadly, the Lancers even more so, but the micro-missiles of the Mec are a bitch
@@giacomomeluzzi280 I started to play with Mushashi RPG mod for classes since then. It is much more adaptive for these situations early game since you can have armor shred and other great skills. Maybe a little OP i guess but after hundreds of hours in the game it brings some freshness.
@@RoninJeremy how do they scale in the end-game? The other issue XCOM has is the well-known decrease in difficulty once obtained tier 3 or psi ops
@@giacomomeluzzi280 There are other add ons, ill double and get back to you. but they add more difficulty also could include the long war 2 mod. It's always a tough balance when modding but IIRC prime enemies are one that made it pretty rough for me.
I like that one of your guys is called Dr.Rockso haha
its after one of our viewers requested him. about 50 are from stream viewers.
Yeah when I ambush, I never in a million years would do it with overwatch. If you spread people out well enough, get height advantages, and start the assault with an aoe, it shreds any Armour, and you can immediately take actions to flank and shoot vs waiting for aliens to shoot you then kill them. Overwatch is blatantly useless in any situation unless you know something is in cover and will move out of it. Took me a lot of soldiers to figure that out
Overwatch also cannot crit either, except for high ranked specialists in late game with the GTS upgrade. In my experience, overwatch shines best when used to get free shots on enemies that move into the squads LOS on the alien's turn or to prevent the enemy from retreating or advancing for free. However, overwatch is not always reliable, especially on Legend.
Once one of my soldiers was panicked and threw a grenade at a group of civilians and killed 3 of them
Lol sorry to laugh, but that is pretty funny and infuriating at the same time.
Always bring flashbangs early game
Yeah I am learning this still today while playing legendary Honestman.
cheers!
Rip everyone.
Yeah legend difficulty on ironman is not very forgiving.
Cant u carry the panic person and then evac?
Good question, I have never tried to carry a panicked person, ill try it out on my next run. Thanks for the idea.
Why not just play anything else besides Legend? My legend run just took so much patience because the odds don't always work out rightt
I just don't have the time currently to commit with something like legend. I'm not sure if you also stream but it takes some concentration for me to maintain a conversation with the chat and I like it that way. For me, commander is a good mix of fun and manageable concentration for multitasking.
8:42 should have flanked them on the right side around the truck, would have got them all down
I would have lost the Height Advantage with the opener, I don't think it would have made much of a difference. One thing I know for sure in Xcom there are no Guarantees.
true...
Missed a 94% chance to hit twice in a row in one mission... it was the final one... I was like... FUCK THIS! LOAD THE SAVE! Was playing on rekrut cuz it was my first run... didn't even reached the Tier 3 weapons... or other good armors xD
ComentAndDoment yeah that would of been hard to finish without full upgrades. I know your pain for missing really high aimed shots.
how are you so horribly undergeared? by the time officers had 7-8HP i already had shard guns and preator armor :P
All depends on the path of research you choose, looking at the dates of the upload id love to have more information for you but it's also likely it was my first run. It's over a year ago. Thanks for the comment, you are added to the DOS 2 draw.
neat. i don't know what DOS 2 Draw youa re referring to but i'd gladly participate.
about the gear etc. i might just be used to base management from other strategy games, but i found myself to get overgeared pretty quickly in the midgame to the point of steamrolling every enemy. that has slowed down in the lategame. i've only destroyed 1 facility so far and i already have endgame gear and face what's seamingly endgame enemies.
about your dislike to like ratio being slightly high. it might have to do with the fact that you are doing a voiceover while you are showing stream highlights. most people expect the live reaction when they see a facecam, but it becomes aparent that it's voiceover due to the quite slow reactions to the action and lack of syncronization wiht the facecam.
it's no means a bad idea to do things this way, you just need to refine it more and prepare more (try not to have delayed reactions to what's happening ingame etc.). that is if you haven't already "fixed" this since this is a slightly old video :)
Mortjep9531 thanks for the feedback . DOS 2 is divinity original sin 2 , in case you didn't know. Great tactical rpg.
The reactions were live since it was a stream highlight and then voice over. Tbh ive mainly only been streaming the past little while, busy with school so i really toned down the upload schedule.
it still gets pretty confusing to discern whether it's fully live or voiceover. sounds and feels odd. if you have footage from a stream then simply use the streams reaction. it's so much more geniune and adds charector. anyone can do a voice over but the moments that really define you as a streamer/youtuber are the utmost live reactions, such as the panic at 4:20
your cam reaction is much more exciting and interesting than the voiceover you are doing. also when you are doing non-scripted voiceover as in this video it really doesn't work well when you explain hits that where crits or explain things very delayed from the action.
as i said voiceover can work, but in this video it really doesn't work optimal. But i did enjoy it.
How did u make your u.i. look like that?
might have had a mod on. been a really long time since playing.
@@RoninJeremy ayt thanks man
15:58 made me laugh so much
the medic at least its nice to be able to laugh at other peoples mistakes😀
Yeah overwatch is pretty much a last-resort type action. At least on legendary. I never use it unless there is literally nothing else to do.
Yeah it is somethign that the game doesn't tell you about in detail. Thats what makes the game hard is figuring out the mechanics, after you figure them out the game is very manageable. Maaybe less so on legendary lol.
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Basic soliders so trash. I always pick reaper first. He can solo annihilate one squad without losing stealth. Also great scout. Without they legend unbeatable. My fav is templar.
cheers for that!
hopefully i will get back into it.
couldent you have hunkerd down Catalina?
HeroMichael I'm sure i could have, ill admit i am a poor user of hunker down.
I think no one really properly uses hunker down honestly not even me
i'm playing EW and i've noticed that if it says "30%" and other target says "62%" i'm picking the 30... those numbers don't mean anything
What do you mean? Like 30% chance to hit? I mean sometimes you can get lucky but i wouldn't take those shots too often, or at least expect much from them. It is 1 in 3 to hit though.
@@RoninJeremy well i mean that those numbers don't mean anything to me... it feels like it just shows some random numbers which doesn't mean anything
@@Darusdei can you send a screenshot? Maybe through discord. I have a guide that might explain them. 30 sounds like it could be cover but there's a lot that can affect your aim. Distance, flank, cover, smoke grenades. Weapon type.
why would u ever overwatch engage a group like that though.. your guaranteed to lose a guy or be severely damaged on multiple....... 09:10
A lot has changed in 4 years. I much prefer using skills and explosives when i can.
Horribly underwhelming voice and tone, drink more whiskey and pick up smoking it'll help the stream quality.
happypill117 Thanks but a filter could probably work better and be healthier. I haven't found time to stream during school in a while but I'll work on it for moving on. Thanks.