This is the video I was looking for 6 months ago. With information on cockbeading being very sparse on youtube, I had to resort to reading a book (oh my). Thank you for this content, you showed me where I could have done better (we are all our own most harsh critics). Fortunately the pieces sit in my living room where I am the only critic.
RC: Your videos have become the most thorough and instructive in this genre that I've seen on UA-cam. I can tell you have put a lot of work into them. Keep up the good work!
4/9/23; ...beautiful work making your Walnut 360°surround drawer fronts! That is a ton of time & to make this extra feature...but absolutely beautiful finish! Fantastic LeeVally edging & rabbit planes too! Excellent work!👍👍👏👏✅️😊
Things I learn from your work: the ingenious little planing sled you use to clean up the beading. It solves a significant issue planing small, narrow pieces. Thanks!
Thank you! I’ve been trying to figure out how to do that. I honestly didn’t know what the method was called…but now I do. And that just makes it so much more fun! :). Thank you for showing how that is done, and explaining WHY you do things the way you do. Great content, and very nice aesthetic in your videos.
Mate! What's going on? I've been watching woodwork vids for 5 years on the 'tube and you've never been 'suggested' by the dreaded algorithm. Anyway, found ya now. Cheers from New Zealand.
I like your video because you keep it real. When I am working on a project, I sometimes need to replace a dull sandpaper too. I hate the interruption but no point of keep using a wore out tool.
I really like how you have your shooting sander board with pins for 22.5, 45 and 90 degree's. It's looking like I need to make myself a new shooting board haha. I'm definitely going to make a shooting sander too that's a great idea.
Hi from Australia Nice video and great looking drawer. I have subscribed and will check out more of your content this week. Regards James One Handed Maker
Your videos have resulted in me failing quite a bit at the techniques you've shown. It's been very fun trying to upgrade my skillset. That cockbeading looks pretty slick. I've never tried it before, but now I'm feeling ambitious. I think next weekend it's gonna be time to ruin some wood. I also have a shooting sander, but mine is a piece of angle iron with a wooden handle epoxied onto it for a handle. When I'm making small model stuff it is a life saver. The Veritas version looks so good, but a quick shopmade one will work pretty well for folks that aren't sure if they should invest in something like that. The first one I saw was actually an old cracked stanley no5 that someone had stuck a 1/16" piece of steel to the bottom of and sand papered it. I know that my homemade hide glue expands slightly as it cures, unlike pva. It certainly isn't as expansive as something like urethane glue, but there is a bit. If I don't rub the joint or clamp it down sufficiently, I've had it expand and make gaps unexpectedly. I'm not sure if your liquid hideglue does the same, but it might be worth checking. Excellent video. I can't wait to see it all come together.
I've never noticed hide glue expanding as it cures. In fact, I heard on a podcast (don't remember by whom or when) that it shrinks as it cures and draws part tighter as it does so. Of course, my experience is anecdotal and shouldn't be taken as scientific evidence either. I've just had really good luck with rub joints using liquid hide glue.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 Interesting. I'll have to look into this more and make sure I'm not having some other issue and fooling myself. Thanks for the info!
Great look. Great look. Was wondering do you try to not get any dye on where you’re going to glue or would it still stick using that type of dyeing technique ?
The main reason I don't dye the glue surfaces is so I can still see my marks for left, right, top, and bottom. I don't think the dye inhibits glue adhesion, but I haven't really tested it to find out either.
I love cockbeading. I do cockbeading all the time. Usually when I'm alone in my shop. Nobody sees me do it. And then during lunch I masticate! I can masticate for hours, but most times I need to do it in a hurry. It's a lot of fun. People don't like it when I masticate in public, however. I usually leave, embarrassed when someone says something and go back to my shop and cockbead some more.
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing. Appreciate your honesty. This past summer I made an awesome dovetailed box. Recently I've been working on a Shaker nightstand and tried to do as good if not better. They turned out slightly gapy. Sigh. A long way of saying, I get it. I've been wanting to try making a piece with cockbeading. I haven't seen much out there so this video will be helpful. What dust collector are you using in your shop? I work similar to you in terms of mostly hand tools and I have a DeWalt 735 and a bandsaw (also a table top mortiser for when I'm feeling insecure/lazy). Need to get a dust collector. Been looking mostly at Oneida's. Curious what you have and what you think of it. Thanks.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 Thanks. Just ordered the 8" Veritas shooting sander. I can see where this will come in real handy and I use my shooting board a lot.
I liked most of what I saw. 👍👍One thing I didn't like I won't keep to myself. When you were showing the iron for the beading plane you kept moving it around. So much so that I never did get a good look at it. 👎👎So please, when you have something detailed to show, hold it still for a count of three or four. 👌👌 Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
That part also wasn't in focus, so even if I did hold it still for 3-4 seconds you wouldn't have been able to see it very well. There's always next time, I guess.
I’d be interested to know if that Veritas Sanding Planer requires a dedicated shooting board just for this operation? Otherwise, wouldn’t it sand into a planing type shooting board and make it wonky?
In either case, there's an area of the plane/sanding body below the blade/sandpaper that prevents it from cutting any further than the depth of the blade/sandpaper. I hope that makes sense.
I was wondering why you avoided using the plane shooting board with the sanding shooter. Is there something about the sander that adversely affects the normal shooting board?
Not on this small of a scale. Very generally speaking, cross grain joinery like mortise & tenon doesn't become a problem until about 80-100mm wide (3-4") depending on wood species. Even then, the grain orientation (quartersawn vs. flatsawn) can make a pretty big difference for what you can get away with too.
Thanks very much for sharing your work. Some of those high-stakes operations made my palms sweat! Picked up some good tips from you here as well, so thank you!
No, because the dovetails will need to be cleaned up and the drawer fit to it's opening by removing material, and if the beading is there during that process, some the beading would get removed along with it.
So that's what it's called. I've seen the cockbeading with another bead on the drawer face couple inches in from the edge. Do you know what that's called?
Really interesting design and enjoyable process to watch. Question for you, this is mostly a subtractive approach: you build the drawer first(very nicely done), and cut down the rebates for the beading to fit in. But would it be easier to take the additive approach(say if I don't already have a drawer), that is to make the drawer with thinner front using through dovetails, then laminate additional front board(a narrower board with circle drilled through), this will create same rebates as you did here ua-cam.com/video/aruQrTxEowU/v-deo.html. And the glue lines will be covered by the beadings.
This is the video I was looking for 6 months ago. With information on cockbeading being very sparse on youtube, I had to resort to reading a book (oh my). Thank you for this content, you showed me where I could have done better (we are all our own most harsh critics). Fortunately the pieces sit in my living room where I am the only critic.
Someone will look at that drawer in the future and say ‘ that is bloody gorgeous’❤
I wish there were more woodworking videos like this. I find your YT channel inspiring. It gives me the motivation to push my skills to this level
RC: Your videos have become the most thorough and instructive in this genre that I've seen on UA-cam. I can tell you have put a lot of work into them. Keep up the good work!
4/9/23; ...beautiful work making your Walnut 360°surround drawer fronts! That is a ton of time & to make this extra feature...but absolutely beautiful finish! Fantastic LeeVally edging & rabbit planes too! Excellent work!👍👍👏👏✅️😊
Things I learn from your work: the ingenious little planing sled you use to clean up the beading. It solves a significant issue planing small, narrow pieces. Thanks!
A lot of extra time and effort, but the drawers look so much nicer, so well worth it. Thanks for the video.
Excellent work! Thanks for sharing your craft
Thank you! I’ve been trying to figure out how to do that. I honestly didn’t know what the method was called…but now I do. And that just makes it so much more fun! :). Thank you for showing how that is done, and explaining WHY you do things the way you do. Great content, and very nice aesthetic in your videos.
So much work...! So much *perfect* work!
Very nice video RC. I enjoy your creativity and dedication to traditional woodworking.
Mate! What's going on? I've been watching woodwork vids for 5 years on the 'tube and you've never been 'suggested' by the dreaded algorithm.
Anyway, found ya now. Cheers from New Zealand.
To be fair, I just started my channel last September, but nevertheless, I'm glad you found me.
I just found your channel and I love how you explain your technique. Looks like I’ll be binging this weekend!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge….
I like your video because you keep it real. When I am working on a project, I sometimes need to replace a dull sandpaper too. I hate the interruption but no point of keep using a wore out tool.
What a great video! Real, honest woodworking. Refreshing!
Very nice use of the shooting sander. I clearly need one of those!
I really like how you have your shooting sander board with pins for 22.5, 45 and 90 degree's. It's looking like I need to make myself a new shooting board haha. I'm definitely going to make a shooting sander too that's a great idea.
Great videos. I wish you'd do more in depth but full build videos. Your full of great knowledge
I really appreciate your style of working. What brand of chisel did you use in this video?
My bench chisels are Ashley Iles Mark II. See my tool cabinet tour videos for a complete run-down of my hand tool collection.
Hi from Australia
Nice video and great looking drawer.
I have subscribed and will check out more of your content this week.
Regards James
One Handed Maker
Looks pretty perfect to me! Incredible work.
Very very nice video great content nice to see your skills .the Ashley Isles chisels are made in a village z few miles from my village here in the uk
Beautiful
In some other countries it's called cocked beading. Looks great. Should pop with finish.
Very nice. Thank you for sharing.
Your videos have resulted in me failing quite a bit at the techniques you've shown. It's been very fun trying to upgrade my skillset. That cockbeading looks pretty slick. I've never tried it before, but now I'm feeling ambitious. I think next weekend it's gonna be time to ruin some wood.
I also have a shooting sander, but mine is a piece of angle iron with a wooden handle epoxied onto it for a handle. When I'm making small model stuff it is a life saver. The Veritas version looks so good, but a quick shopmade one will work pretty well for folks that aren't sure if they should invest in something like that. The first one I saw was actually an old cracked stanley no5 that someone had stuck a 1/16" piece of steel to the bottom of and sand papered it.
I know that my homemade hide glue expands slightly as it cures, unlike pva. It certainly isn't as expansive as something like urethane glue, but there is a bit. If I don't rub the joint or clamp it down sufficiently, I've had it expand and make gaps unexpectedly. I'm not sure if your liquid hideglue does the same, but it might be worth checking.
Excellent video. I can't wait to see it all come together.
I've never noticed hide glue expanding as it cures. In fact, I heard on a podcast (don't remember by whom or when) that it shrinks as it cures and draws part tighter as it does so. Of course, my experience is anecdotal and shouldn't be taken as scientific evidence either. I've just had really good luck with rub joints using liquid hide glue.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 Interesting. I'll have to look into this more and make sure I'm not having some other issue and fooling myself. Thanks for the info!
Great look. Great look. Was wondering do you try to not get any dye on where you’re going to glue or would it still stick using that type of dyeing technique ?
The main reason I don't dye the glue surfaces is so I can still see my marks for left, right, top, and bottom. I don't think the dye inhibits glue adhesion, but I haven't really tested it to find out either.
Nicely done.
I love cockbeading. I do cockbeading all the time. Usually when I'm alone in my shop. Nobody sees me do it. And then during lunch I masticate! I can masticate for hours, but most times I need to do it in a hurry. It's a lot of fun. People don't like it when I masticate in public, however. I usually leave, embarrassed when someone says something and go back to my shop and cockbead some more.
Bonus points for the use of the word "masticate".
How does one level at this level? I’m a beginner and have no clue which roadmap to follow. You are amazing
Practice, patience, precision and practice. So I'm told.
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing. Appreciate your honesty. This past summer I made an awesome dovetailed box. Recently I've been working on a Shaker nightstand and tried to do as good if not better. They turned out slightly gapy. Sigh. A long way of saying, I get it.
I've been wanting to try making a piece with cockbeading. I haven't seen much out there so this video will be helpful.
What dust collector are you using in your shop? I work similar to you in terms of mostly hand tools and I have a DeWalt 735 and a bandsaw (also a table top mortiser for when I'm feeling insecure/lazy). Need to get a dust collector. Been looking mostly at Oneida's. Curious what you have and what you think of it. Thanks.
Mine's the Jet JCDC-2 Cyclone and I've been really happy with it. They make 1.5 and 3hp versions too.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 Thanks. Just ordered the 8" Veritas shooting sander. I can see where this will come in real handy and I use my shooting board a lot.
I liked most of what I saw. 👍👍One thing I didn't like I won't keep to myself. When you were showing the iron for the beading plane you kept moving it around. So much so that I never did get a good look at it. 👎👎So please, when you have something detailed to show, hold it still for a count of three or four. 👌👌 Thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂
That part also wasn't in focus, so even if I did hold it still for 3-4 seconds you wouldn't have been able to see it very well. There's always next time, I guess.
I’d be interested to know if that Veritas Sanding Planer requires a dedicated shooting board just for this operation? Otherwise, wouldn’t it sand into a planing type shooting board and make it wonky?
In either case, there's an area of the plane/sanding body below the blade/sandpaper that prevents it from cutting any further than the depth of the blade/sandpaper. I hope that makes sense.
Great video! May I ask what brand apron you're wearing?
Texas Heritage Woodworks. I did a whole video on it: ua-cam.com/video/nY941GkhAQI/v-deo.html
Careful, you don't wanna get banned from UA-cam smh
I was wondering why you avoided using the plane shooting board with the sanding shooter. Is there something about the sander that adversely affects the normal shooting board?
No. It's just, since I have a second shooting board, I may as well use it, so they can both be set up and at the ready at all times.
the jokes just make themselves.
thanks
I wonder do you worry about wood movement for this type of joinery?
Not on this small of a scale. Very generally speaking, cross grain joinery like mortise & tenon doesn't become a problem until about 80-100mm wide (3-4") depending on wood species. Even then, the grain orientation (quartersawn vs. flatsawn) can make a pretty big difference for what you can get away with too.
Oh BEADING ….. I’ve been… Nevermind.
I dig it!
Thanks very much for sharing your work. Some of those high-stakes operations made my palms sweat! Picked up some good tips from you here as well, so thank you!
Could you not glue on the beading before you cut the dovetails?
No, because the dovetails will need to be cleaned up and the drawer fit to it's opening by removing material, and if the beading is there during that process, some the beading would get removed along with it.
So that's what it's called. I've seen the cockbeading with another bead on the drawer face couple inches in from the edge. Do you know what that's called?
Not sure in that case.
Why would it not be called edge beading?
I like that name better, personally, and I think people would know what you meant when you used it.
Nice 👌
Wow!
great video...not sure what the big deal about roosters is all about :)
WOW...
It's a joy to follow along. I'll look forward to learning more on the next one! ^^
Really interesting design and enjoyable process to watch.
Question for you, this is mostly a subtractive approach: you build the drawer first(very nicely done), and cut down the rebates for the beading to fit in. But would it be easier to take the additive approach(say if I don't already have a drawer), that is to make the drawer with thinner front using through dovetails, then laminate additional front board(a narrower board with circle drilled through), this will create same rebates as you did here ua-cam.com/video/aruQrTxEowU/v-deo.html. And the glue lines will be covered by the beadings.
You can, in fact that's similar to how I did it with the drawer I show in the intro, if I recall correctly.
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