Drawer Slips- Why they're extra nice & how to make them.
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- One of my favorite construction methods installing drawer bottoms is the drawer slip. In this video, I explain their advantages, and show you how to make them (using mostly hand tools). Along the way, I share tons of tips for dovetailing, using a plow plane, and more.
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Loved how you closed this off "If you don't like this video, keep it to yourself pal" lol. You got a good sense of humor and some pretty good skill. Thanks for sharing.
Seriously UA-cam. I only watch Hand tool woodworking content since Covid kicked off and you recommend this to me today. Great content.
Not often I subscribe to a channel first video I watch, but here ya go! Really well presented techniques with zero arrogance.
amazing channel, seriously one of the best woodworking channels I've come across, subbed!
Thanks and welcome
You sold me on drawer slips, I’m also loving that paper veneer…
Deluge of splooge ?haha a classic !thanks for that 🇬🇧🤔🤔
Just discovered the channel. Dang this is thinking person's woodworking . Great insights.
Hey brother, you and your content here on UA-cam is some of the most affective and effective that’s been since Shannon Rogers. The minimalist hybrid work delivered in a winsome and informative manner is exactly what I want on UA-cam. I’ll take longform education any time I can get it; you deliver. Mighty appreciative of you brother and I hope this finds you and yours doing well.
So glad you're making these videos... thanks for sharing your years of figuring things out with us.
Very. nice video. I like it that you don't weaken the sides with a grooves to hold the bottom..
Good point! I wish I had mentioned that in the video.
Ryan, this is by far your best video yet. Really great the way you inserted little tips as you went through the process. I learned tons. Now I'm wondering if I should use a similar technique on small boxes for the floating bottom. It would let me use even thinner stock on the box. If you could do more in-depth videos like this more often, I'd gladly become a Patreon supporter to help give you time to do so.
WOW, I have watched other videos on slips, but this is something that I need to watch one more time. R. Crossman and P.Sellers show two different ways to do slips that are not the full story. Thank you for sharing.
This is always so good, thankyou.
One of your longer videos. Surprised how engaged I became and stuck with it all the way. Glad you put the dovetail portion in the video too. Saw a glimpse of the dark, unseen, corner of your shop. Makes it look larger but only because we see three shots all the time and never behind camera.
Because it's a garage, lots of crap we don't know what to do with gets piled in there. If I can ever catch up to it, I'll do a shop tour.
Like the idea of rounding tops of slips to mark top and bottom, I have been doing bevel on both sides. Going to look into those veritas round overs. Beautiful work , love the contrasting wood.
One argument for slips is that it increases the bearing area of the drawer slide ( old furniture shows this to be a high wear area)- but not so much if you bevel the bottom.
Never heard of this before, very cool. Thanks for sharing. Hope you feel better.
I've used slips in drawer construction and, as you have pointed out they offer an opportunity to add details and lighten the sides. I am not convince, however, that it makes sense to affix a slip to the drawer front where enough thickness is to accommodate a groove. Yes, I know that the wood grain was attentively followed from side, front, and then to the opposing side, but there was hardly enough grain exposure to allow this continuity to be detected (unless, of course, clients are apt to watch these videos). I seldom use plywood as bottoms although i do like the idea of papering over the surfaces. I usually create drawer bottoms with grain running sideways so as to allow me to apply just a dab of glue into the front groove. letting the panel adpat seasonally. Larger drawers get a screw driven into the back section that supports the bottom through a slot
Just discovered you and I love your videos, your teaching style, and your use of the metric system. One thing that would have been helpful for me personally, was seeing what you were making at the beginning of the video. I didn’t even know what a drawer slip was until about 2/3’s of the way in. Putting a bit of that outro as your intro would have really helped me absorb what you were doing along the way. **edit** Going back for a second watch, I see that you kind of did this. You showed some pics, but back then I didn’t know what a drawer slip was, and they appeared to be the same wood as the drawer sides, so I couldn’t tell what you had done.
You also don’t hear “deluge of spooj” enough in woodworking videos, so kudos on that.
Thank you for your videos and sharing your knowledge!
Amazing video! I learned lots from this! When I make boxes I’d make the grooves right into the walls, no slips (I didn’t know they were a thing until today). I would then compensate by cutting rabbets on the ends of my short boards to cover the gaps from the grooves. The rabbets serve double duty as a stop when I trace the pins of my dovetails.
I’m looking forward to trying this technique!
Thanks again for making such unique content for woodworkers!
Awesome video! I will have to try this technique when making drawers. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for the video. I have never encountered drawer slips before. They look so practical for finely constructed, smaller scale drawers. Feel better soon!
Awesome work
Would really like to see some of the other pieces of furniture that you have built. Your attention to fine detail is impressive. 👍👍👍
Here's a link to my website if you want to see some more furniture pieces: www.mountaintopjoinersshop.com/
That is superb craft! Thank you R.C. for sharing.
Winner winner chicken dinner! Great video brother; I’ve listened of watched this multiple times now.
Thanks for sharing. I don't have a machine router either. Love my router plane and my plough plane. I think I'm going to buy those Veritas round over tools. I can see where they come in handy if I don't want to round over with a hand plane and need the round over to be very uniform.
Great tutorial. Thx!
Great job…..thanks for sharing!
My first video and I really like your content. I hit subscribe and the like and look forward to learning more from you as I am really impressed with the quality of your work. Thank you for sharing and I'll wait right here for your next video. Until then I'll watch the previous videos and learn more about real woodworking. You truly have a real gift my friend.
That was really enjoyable to watch. Thanks.
It's such a pleasure to watch you work.
Thanks!
Very nicely done. Thanks for sharing
I like the look. My drawers thus far I plowed a grove in the sides but now I will try this out. Thanks man!
This is a great demonstration. I have four drawers to make for a project I'm working on, and I am definitely considering drawer slips for them now. You also sold me on those corner tools. I've been doing my roundovers freehand with a block plane, and they always come out slightly wonky.
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice video~! I first heard of drawer slips on Rob Cosman's channel and I like both of your techniques. Definitely a feature that I want to incorporate into my next project. Thanks for a great demo~!
some very nice work, I surmise there are some who think this is even great but then there are some who view this as a complete waste of time
Appreciate you man! ^^
Thank you, sir!
Thank you
Love your instructiveness. Most of us don’t have those fancy planes. It would be nice to link to the tools you are using.
Almost all of them are Veritas with a few Lie-Nielsen thrown in there. Can't go wrong with either brand.
Beautiful work, beautiful video. Not 100% my style, but still absolutely a treat to watch. May I suggest that you might turn the music down just a bit in editing (particularly on my mind at 41:30 or so). Not that I mind the selections, but I'd rather listen to you than to the music.
Thanks for the constructive feedback. The music often sounds different in editing than final product does, so it's hard to get right. This helps to know.
Very nice
Very enjoyable video and hope you’re feeling far better asap RC🤞👍
Thanks 👍
I've been a semi-serious amateur woodworker for almost 40 years and I've always grappled with the problem of fitting the drawer bottom without marring the dovetail. Here is the answer in a nicely produced and executed video. I'm going to finish a drawer tomorrow using a drawer slip.
Deluge of splooge, epic! I agree, some glue-ups on YT are an absolute waterfall, and such a waste.
When chiseling away the cheeks of a tenon, or the long-grain of that notch in the slip, use Mike's Rule of Halves. Each chunk you remove should be half way to the line. So the first "cut" is at half depth. The next is half of what's left. So is the next. Carry on until there is too little to halve again.
I do that a lot when chopping out dovetail waste.
nice video
That mallet is freakin awesome. I know that’s not the point of the video, but still.
Say…. From the look of that dude on the cover on the book you wrote, there should also be a video on “hair slips” forthcoming…..😂
thank you
Very inspiring video, thanks for that! I usually prefer the front of the drawer to be a little bit thinner than what you did, is there any specific reason why you would make it so thick (I guess it would be possible to make half blinds with thinner stock, right)?
Normally, I wouldn't make the drawer fronts that thick either, but as I mention at the end of the video, these are going to be cockbeaded. They're also going to have a pull design that requires a recess in the front. I drilled these recesses in the video, but it might not be apparent how deep they are from the footage.
Very nice work, and even nicer video demo! Consider me a subscriber.👍
I was not able to find the video on your shooting board. Did you take that down?
No, it's just not an obvious title. Here's the link: ua-cam.com/video/gaORuRUdeXU/v-deo.html
Do you put a screw and slot at the rear to retain the draw bottom?
Yes. I should've mentioned that.
Great video! I really enjoyed watching it.
Where can I get one of those plow-plane blade organizers?
Did you have it custom-made?
P.S. Been using drawer slips for my better furniture for some time now... don't know why more don't use this technique.
I got mine from Lee Valley a long time ago but it looks like they still offer it: www.leevalley.com/en-us/shop/tools/hand-tools/planes/maintenance-and-accessories/70626-blade-roll-for-veritas-small-plow-plane?item=50K6020
If the person who taught me how to saw seen me using it like that, he would shout at me "you paid for the whole saw plate, so stop using only the toe"...... I could hear his voice in my head as you sawed 😆 the first few looks I had at your sawing hook made me think the surface of it was angled, when it's actually the fence that tapers off; this had me really confused at first, my brain didn't see it was the fence and I kept thinkin "how does he saw plumb with a slanted hook?" 🤔🤣 when usin a plough I don't like to plane full length, il start at the end and make short strokes to depth, then step back a bit and continue that way...... I find it's faster for me coz the shavings stay short an I dony have to clear shavings after every swipe, and I don't use up the valuable energy walkin along the board for each swipe. Us "handtool freaks" need to conserve that energy 🤙😆 By no means am I sayin "you're wrong", coz there's no such thing........ jus sharin the way I like to do it same as you done in this video 😁
Keep the videos long, pay no attention to people who say it's too long. The more detail you can give the easier it will be for lads new to hand work to absorb it and try it for themselves... It is a dying art, I nearly feel its our "duty" to pass along the information/skills we have to help keep it alive.
Keep doin your thing lad 😁🤙
What brand of shop apron you wearing?
It's a Texas Heritage Woodworks apron body I put my own straps on. Did a video about it too: ua-cam.com/video/nY941GkhAQI/v-deo.html
So, why not inset the bottom into the side? With slips, any square items cannot reach the edges, reducing storage and promoting rattle. At the very least, I would want the shaping to be concave. Seems like a lot of effort for inferior utility. Genuinely interested in why these are a thing.
As to your first question, I spend the beginning (and end) the video explaining just that. I haven't experienced the problems you describe, though you do make a fair point. In the end, if you don't think they're a good idea, I'd suggest not using them.
The title should have been "How to make drawers A to Z."
When you had hair 😂
I'm not a fan of the inside bottom edge of these drawers. I want the insides of my drawers to be more square than a cubicle.
When you’re talking and the music is playing it is very difficult to understand all your words, just fyi.
I've made 100's of drawers with slips over decades. While you do neat work, this is NOT the way to do traditional slips for drawers. The rear of the drawer front should be grooved (no added slip), and the slips on the drawer sides ideally end up flush with the drawer bottom. Then there is no need to cut away the rear of the slips to fit the drawer back. I'd link articles I written, but UA-cam would delete my reply. Google my name plus drawer slips. Regards from Perth, Derek Cohen
I don't believe I ever claimed this was the "traditional" way to do drawer slips, but rather that the idea is rooted in tradition and this is the way I like to do them. I add a slip behind the drawer front because I very much prefer the way it looks when mitered in like that, sooo that's the way I show it in the video. If it's neat work, as you say, and accomplishes all the things it sets out to, and I like the result, it befuddles me why anyone would take issue with that. It's*my* furniture after all.
If you post a video demonstrating a special technique - not just showing a build - you do have a responsibility to be either accurate or to mention what you are doing that is different. As it happens, when I made my first drawer with slips, I did the same as you … and was pulled up for it. I did not make that mistake again. Keep up the nice work. Regards from Perth, Derek
You did your first drawer slips in a way that made sense to you and it worked. You may have let others convince you that was a mistake and to me that's a shame. Merely doing something different does NOT mean you're doing it wrong if the result works well and is pleasing to you. While I adamantly believe that what we do should be informed by a healthy respect for tradition, blind obeisance to it can stifle innovation and creativity. Also, there are many, perfectly legitimate, ways to do just about anything in woodworking, some of which I may be familiar with, and some I may not. It can't possibly be my responsibility to explain how all of them differ from what I do. Nobody does that, including you. I'm familiar with your work in years gone by, blog, etc. Maybe you think you're being helpful but it's disappointing to me that you'd take this much time out of your day to give me a hard time about the perfectly legitimate way I choose to do something (not to mention using your unsolicited criticism to promote yourself on someone else's channel). You were someone I used to look up to.
@@themountaintopjoinersshop8422 Ryan, I am sorry that this exchange has turned out to be so defensive. That was not my intention. I was solely seeking to offer something helpful - you could have just said, "Thanks, I'll look into this" - even given you a chance to follow up with another video. If you know my blog and my forum offerings, you will know I do not have a dog in the fight. You will also know that I publicly share my mistakes and corrections. No big deal to make mistakes as long as you acknowledge them. Regards from Perth, Derek
I have no problem admitting mistakes, but for the last time, it's not a mistake if you did it intentionally and it turned out how you wanted it to.
This music is awful, bro.
When it comes to music selection, you can't please everyone, but you *especially* can't please people who use the word "bro" on the internet.
Good subject matter but 42 minutes? 10-12 should have been sufficient.
A video that is merely sufficient would either gloss over certain details or ignore them altogether. I've gotten a *lot more* comments expressing appreciation for including them than ones wishing I'd left them out. Sorry, not sorry, if you found the exhaustive nature of this approach to be exhausting.