Daikin Heat Pump Lineup 🔥❄️| 2024 Heat Pump Reviews
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In this video, we do a deep dive on The Daikin Heat Pump lineup. We discuss which Heat Pumps qualifies for the heat pump tax credits available through the inflation reduction act, as well as which systems are best for your climate. The truth is that not all heat pumps work great in cold climates, and even some of them don't do well in hotter climates like Phoenix, AZ, and in this video we talk about which of these heat pumps will be best for your specific climate and how they compare to each other in both cold climate and hot climate performance.
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Can you review the three strong household brands? Samsung EHS Mono, Panasonic Aquarea T-cap and LG Therma V Pro
Thank you for very informative video's and posts. I am in Canada with 8 month old house and Lenox Furnace. from the beginning we wear suffering from loud noise like jet engine turbine as well as hearing idling truck when it was in lower stage fan. The contractors did replace the motor and module with no changes or enhancements. I had 3 different companies looking at the furnace with one suggesting changing the furnace to David Lenox signature series as it uses different system. However when I was reading the reviews on Lenox website, lots of people complained about the similar noises that I am experiencing even with mot expensive model. I've lived in 2 houses and never had such a problem!!
May I ask what would be your recommendation for a quiet furnace brand? my house in 2,600 sq-ft 3 story Sigle home and at this point I am not worried about the efficiency, just the quietness.
Please advise
Regards
Do you have two white pipes coming off the top? If you’re hearing the “jet engine” sound that’s the burner compartment… but if there’s only one pipe coming off the top that’s partially why is the noise is coming from the burner compartment combustion chamber. I would recommend 1. tuning the blower down to a lower ramping profile and blower speeds, and potentially derating the furnace to a slightly lower rating if needed 2. Insulate the ductwork above (supply air) and below the furnace (return air) with a sound deadening insulation material that will dampen any airflow sound, this may just be an airflow noise type of issue. I’ve never heard the idling truck comments is this an oil burner furnace? Or natural gas? But I would start with a competent contractor that understands how to turn down and tune airflow properly assuming your furnace has multiple speed taps (which it should if it’s a new build)
Big big fan of your videos and the in depth reviews that you make. Would love to support your company by having your guys do some work for us on several projects. I live in Arizona (I think its a new market for you). I called your corporate number today and the receptionist told me that your guys are "really busy" and that I should call back in a few months for any work in Arizona. We have 75+ HVAC units and we are looking for an honest HVAC contractor that knows their stuff. Reach out if your guys find some time.
Would love to help we honestly had a lot of staffing issues in Phoenix and are really just trying to make sure we take care of the existing customers we have out there, if you’d like to send me an email Howard@thebeehvac I’ll see what we can do and will keep you posted. Thank you for supporting the channel and really appreciate the compliment🙏 will do what we can!
When are we going to get Daikin Fit in R32?
End of 2024, early 2025 is my understanding. Originally sounded like they’re almost here but I think production on everything this summer got delayed
I would like a DAIKIN Fit system but would it work in a double wide manufactured home with a down flow system? I understand that the ductwork sucks in a trailer and requires a high static pressure?? What are your thoughts on this?
They will work with a Gateway adapter, the furnaces made for manufactured homes are typically Coleman brand / and or a specific type for mobile homes so you might not be able to put the communicating coil inside the cabinet of that furnace. Worth having a contractor come take a look
I have a 36 year old rheem..green monster. Looking at a Mitsubishi heat pump
That will be quite the upgrade! Those Rheems last but sure are loud lol
ICP 3.5 ton heat pump circa 1996 (28 years old). Still cools/heats fine but loud honk from compressor when a/c shuts off. Been doing that for years. I’d like to upgrade to 2-stage primarily for humidity control. Question: should I just hang on, and if not, what do you recommend? Pensacola. Thanks.
R32 and 410a systems are out now so if your system is working you have a choice of what you can get both efficiency and refrigerant wise. I would price out a Daikin Fit for comparison with two stage systems because they’re probably the same price point and will give you the same humidity removal in a climate like Pensacola
@@TheHVACDopeShow Thank you for taking the time to respond. Good stuff. I enjoy your channel.
How does Daikin not have any of their "Fit" models that so many people promote that aren't even efficient enough to qualify for the tax credit? What an enormous missed opportunity, given almost every other company (including endless very inexpensive options) has endless models that do qualify.
Fit qualifies not sure what you’re referencing? The dz5, 7, and 9 qualify in the southern regions, the Daikin fit Enhanced heat pump qualifies in the north for cold climate performance.
www.energystar.gov/about/federal-tax-credits/air-source-heat-pumps
Search DZ6, and you’ll see it hits the rebate requirements for cold climate heat pumps in the Northern region
Why is the Daikin Fit not qualified for heat pump tax credits in the south?
Hot weather performance metrics (lower EER)… EER is a measure of max capacity / running at 100%, and the Fit only has an EER of 10 whereas the cutoff is 11.7 I believe. Even tho seer is much higher (17-18 depending on matchup).
@@TheHVACDopeShow Typical stupid government stuff.
This was a video i needed! Thank you very much. Currently have a 30-year ac system r12 baby. Lol. But looking at heat pumps. Live in the South mid-90s in the summer, but humidity at 80% minimum.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, and wow haven’t seen an R12 system in awhile… in that climate any inverter like the Daikin Fit Heat Pump will earn its keep. It does not hit the tax credits but is a better price point than the DZ9, the DZ5 is still more efficient than what you have now but it’s a single stage system however it will hit the tax credits in the south just like the DZ9 and DZ7. Good luck on your search!
I appreciate how thorough you are with your descriptions and everything.
I find it so interesting that the Mitsubishi MXZ model with a multi head can do a rebate in both North and South for the same unit. It meets and exceeds peak heating and peak cooling performance.
This is still using 410A I wonder what will happen when Mitsubishi will switch to unfortunately 454b I wish they would go on the Daikin path for R32. Or grow some chest hair and do straight Propane or butane but general boomer Americans don't like change. unfortunately.
Thanks! We definitely try, and yeah idk what will happen but Mitsubishi has a great product and really dominated reputation in the heat pump space for this reason at least on reputation, although Daikin has a lot of international market share they’re also working hard to get more and more competitive domestically in the US. I agree R290 Monoblock systems will be a game changer but there’s no phasing that out which unfortunately phase outs have become part of forced obsolescence profit scheme (in my opinion)… I do think they make incremental improvements with each release but I’m not clear on why R290 hasn’t become more of a thing. It has to be Monoblock designs because you can’t have propane lines at 300-400psi running in your house that would just be dangerous, but I haven’t found clear reasons as to why it’s not more widely used and available given its viability for home heating applications.
Explain to people that hot gas goes up on a top discharge and that in cold climate trying to keep in the heat it's better for a side discharge.
Is that the reason? Im honestly not sure… I thought maybe side discharge systems might be better at maintaining the needed higher head pressures for higher efficiency
The negative I see about Dakin is the high cost thermostat and poor reviews.
Where did you see poor reviews? We haven’t heard this, they’re regarded as a premium brand… the thermostat complaint is true though a lot of people agree the Daikin one could be better but honestly imo it’s not bad at all just takes some getting used to
In a dual fuel setup (HP + Furnace) just wondering why you can’t put a HP a-coil on the inlet side of your furnace (in essence suck air through the a-coil vs. blow air through the a-coil). This would allow the HP to run almost continuously vs. having to shut it down early at the thermal balance point. I know that this would put undo “stress” on a conventional furnace blower but isn’t their a blower design that would accommodate the added suction pressure drop?
It would just overheat the blower and cause wear and tear from the heat but I believe some air handlers are set up like this so it’s not a big deal… You can have a downflow system too, but your heat pump/blower would still have to shut off for defrost mode to avoid blowing cool air inside.
@@TheHVACDopeShow Thank you!!
Six months in on my Daikin Fit and love it !! It has been very hot here in Florida ( high 90's ) and it keeps my home very pleasant inside and I have been keeping the thermostat at 75-77. The unit is VERY quiet both inside and outside, as you need to stand next to the outside unit to even hear it running. Have had no problems with the Daikin thermostat and it's nice I can change settings from my cell phone. Daikin Fit is a winner !!
Amazing! Thanks for sharing! We love it for this reason rarely get complaints 😁
I would love to hear your thoughts on the Quilt system.
Just looked it up, looks like a full service manufacturer to installation company which is rare in the HVAC space. Specs are high end, barely derates even at -13F and the COP at 5F is 2 which is decent / in line with the others. To me their advantage looks like they thought through the integration of the hardware and tech to give people what they want (WiFi stats, sleek head units with accent lighting and wood veneers, start to finish install support with rebates although most hvac companies offer that). In short seems like a decent product but I’m not sure if it’s white labeled or actually manufactured by quilt. On paper looks like a nice ductless mini split setup
Sworn off side discharge units for desert use thx to multiple reccs received on another of your posts :-)
Comforting to know I’m not alone in difficulty(ies) accessing performance data regarding severe heat environs. Surprised however @unexpected degradation data between identical models with differing capacities tho.
Oddly enough, Inverter operation under emergency/generator power, and electric vehicle charging options are curiosity at the moment as well. Unsure what to make of this yet until more data collected.
Might you have location(s) south of you perhaps? Knowledgeable research cats like yourselves near Phoenix? AC buddy retired after 30-odd years, so looking for new crew to rely on for foreseeable future. All in Phoenix area thankfully :-)
Thank you in advance for both your kind assistance and information shared :-)
Right on, glad we could help, yes the DZ9 or Trane products like the XV17 through XV20i are great for solar / inverter setups and don’t struggle in the desert. We’ve installed several fits without issue in the desert and only had one complaint on noise but the system was able to satisfy temps and honestly didn’t seem noisy to me or anyone else that looked at the system. The side discharge systems are not ideal for Phoenix type climates though even thought we’ve not had any issues down there yet. All in all you won’t be disappointed with an inverter. My next recommendation for inverters in Phoenix would be the Bosch 18 or 20 seer depending on your demands, works great in high temps and very forgiving with poor duct design which we see a lot in Phoenix
Thx 4 ur response to remaining conceptual questions. Looking like you’re folk we’re searching for :-) Appreciate your input as it relates to Bosch forgiveness of SW ductwork design/constriction issues as well.
That being said, how do you see the 2 Daikin & Trane systems relating to the Bosch re: flexibility (attempting to rank/rate these remaining 3)? Am curious which ones you’re able to install here.
@@TheHVACDopeShow If DZ9 is side discharge, that makes choice between the Trane you recommend, and the Bosch. Appreciate the Bosch being more forgiving as it relates to duct construction/restriction. More or less forgiving than the Trane in your observation/opinion (and do you sell/install either one)?
I’d like to price with you if so. You’ve provided significant assistance/insight to both myself and others here :-)
Getting my Daikin Fit installation finished today in SoCal. Similar to that review around the 14min mark, I am 3miles from the beach. Few hot weeks per year, more cold weeks in the winter. I got the Daikin Fit 115v which from the looks of it peaks at 3.3kW on a 25A breaker. If this thing is as effecient as it touts, I can run this thing off solar no problem.
Install complete, already extremely happy ! This thing is pulling less energy than my old window unit and the whole house is nice and cool. Incredible.
@@jcarreno94may i know what tonnage and cost of installation?
@@pradeepkanthyt It's either 2.5 or 3 tons. I cannot recall. Sized for a 1508sqft home. Cost was around $18k which was the most cost effective I could find after going through 7 bids. We also swapped insulation for a higher R value blown in
@@jcarreno94 thank you. Seems like you went authorized daikin dealer for that price. Hope you are having comfortable home this summer!
That’s great to hear! I’m glad you’re happy with it, that’s my system of choice for your climate if you want the quietest / most comfortable system. And the 115v air handler is a no brainer because you don’t have to run a new dedicated 240v circuit now, and don’t need backup heat. Nice setup!!