HVAC tech here. Been doing this for almost 30 years. the absolute truth is efficiency does not gaurantee reliability. Inverter systems break down more often because of the massive electronics. All manufactures have the similar design evaporator coil that will develop a leak in 1-3 years. No brand is immune to this. Costing you an extra 2,000 dollars in repairs. My advice, If you choose to get an inverter system. If 10 year parts and labor is availabe, GET IT! or Get the longest labor contract possible.
Great information. Which Carrier model of furnace and heat pump would you recommend for a 1230 square feet one level home in Quebec, Canada, so winter is about -3 to -28 degree Celsius. Thanks
Good presentation, thanks. Please improve your sound by not using the overly sensitive condenser microphone, use a dynamic microphone. The vulnerable workhorse used for decades, including senior UA-camrs, is the Heil PR 40.
I normally use lavs on one of these rounds of vids the mic wasn't selected resulting in garbage audio... this may have been one of them but thanks for the tip!
What do you recommend for replacement regarding the following details: Southeastern Pennsylvania. replacing Lennox outdoor unit HP25-311-2P, indoor CB30M-31-2P. House has solar. Considering either base model or an inverter to get the tax credit. This is what someone local quoted me 25SCA530A003, FJ4DNXB30L00, and a 15kw fused
Brand preference? I like the daikin fit enhanced, hits the tax credit in your region and keeps up down to 5/10F depending on sizing and load in your area
Looking for a system in NY state, most affordable quote is a Lennox cold climate, variable speed. Can I trust for this to work without needing to keep my gas boiler when it’s sub 30 degrees? (I’ve been warned that my electric bill will skyrocket) but I have solar panels. I prefer to eliminate my gas boiler completely.
-30F ? No the heat pump will not keep up but your air handler should have a backup electric heat kit for those nights if it gets that cold. If you’re getting rid of your boiler you might look into an air to water heat pump if you have radiant floors, if you have baseboards the r290 stuff isn’t here anytime soon from what I’ve heard so I’d stick with a forced air heat pump. But any heat pump needs backup heat at those temps except for geothermal but that’s a different story
I live in Canada Ontario. Winters vary from -3. To -28. Technitions that I deal with are on the fence with heat pumps. They mention the technology is not quite there. Coils freeze up, tech's need to come out to fix heat pumps. One guy that has a heat pump mentioned on cold days will take a long time to heat up his house. He heats with wood his main source of heating. What is the right heat pump to have in my area
Anything cold climate, -28F or -28C ? Because -28C is -19F which is at the limit of most cold climate heat pumps, but -3C is only 26F and not even a big deal. We run systems in Colorado with 5F switchover temps (meaning they switch to backup furnace heat) which is -15C. So it just depends how often it hits -28 and if that’s F or Celsius. But you’ll definitely want backup heat or a dual fuel option with backup furnace just for those coldest nights. The Gree Products and several of the Mitsubishi and Daikin Mini splits can heat down to -20/30C no problem but backup heat is still something you’ll want in that climate
@@TheHVACDopeShow Do carrier systems have similar performance in these temperatures? ie. 38MGHB I received a quote from a contractor I really liked for the Carrier (with labour warranty) but am slightly weary. This would be the primary heat source in a cold weather canadian climate
Thank you for doing this. I am looking to replace our Oil heat boiler. We live in South East PA and was looking at a variable systems. Was thinking of running two separate systems one for 1st floor and one for second floor. Do you think this will work in our area
Hi and thank you for your help. I am looking for a solid recommendation but all this HVAC stuff and heat pump discussion makes my head spin. I live in just outside of Sacramento, CA. Looking to update my dated HVAC unit in a 2 story home with split system - 2 Trane HVAC XL20i comfort link units (3 ton & 4 ton) - with 2 working speeds. Looking at the Carrier Infinity line due to the efficiency, reliability as well as the multiple speed options to help lower overall cost of running the system. I have PGE for home gas and electric and its EXPENSIVE! I also have roof top solar panels to help off set electricity costs. Home is roughtly 3850sq feet, 4BR, 3.5ba. What are you recommending in this type of home??? Summers can be hot, with variable high temps but typically rarely more than 40 days total of the summer temps above 100 and winters not common to be below 30s. Thanks for any advice and for making this video...very helpful.
Those Trane systems you referenced are great for your climate, and if energy is over .30-40 cents a kWh (we only pay .12 in Denver for comparison) then those heat pumps especially with the solar offset will be your most economical choice most likely, but expensive is all relative so if you know your electric rate I can provide more accurate info but those are great systems (Trane or carrier inverters) so you can’t go wrong, hope that helps!
Thanks for your help. My Pge rates as a solar customer are 0.40/kwh off peak and 0.50/kwh on peak (4p-9p in summer) rates drop to 0.39 in fall/winter. From what I’m gathering the efficiency of a variable speed system like the infinity by carrier may help lower costs vs my current 2 speed system. My current system is 15 years old. Showing signs of its age and use. I also maximize using a whole house fan when the weather permits in the mornings and late evenings.
I live in the high desert of So Cal in a 34 year old 2-story house with the original Carrier 5 ton furnace single stage a/c unit. House has vaulted ceilings throughout the 2700sq ft house also with original windows which seem to not be very insulating these days. Also our ductwork is beginning to crumble due to the age. We installed a mini-split in the master bedroom & bath a few years back as the single 5 ton unit wasn’t cutting it for the whole house and costs a ton in the summer to cool when it’s regularly over 100degF in the summer but with low humidity. Winters aren’t that cold but does get below freezing many days a year. We’re considering a heat pump to take advantage of federal credits for the remainder of the house as the old Carrier unit is well past its prime and likely ready to fail at any moment. I’m wondering what units you’d suggest for our hot desert climate So Cal house?
Over 100F is different than over 110F so if it’s over 110F like Phoenix or Palm desert I would strongly push you to consider an inverter just for efficiency sake. Also more comfortable. In high ambient temps above 110F you’ll probably stick with something like the Daikin DZ9 (22seer2), Trane XV17/or XV20i, or Carriers 24 SEER system. Just make sure the system you’re installing qualifies because on a lot of the 5 ton versions the ratings don’t quite hit the tax credit, however I believe the Trane Units do
One of the most important factors is how low an outdoor temperature a heat pump can run. I seldom see that information specifically called out in consumer data. I've seen a lot of customers' bills spike because they're kicking into electric resistance backup heat. Also do you know of any brands other than Mitsubishi where you can simultaneously connect the same outdoor unit to a forced air plus ductless?
Yes Daikin does this so does Mitsubishi like you mentioned and Fujitsu. It’s called VRF technology, or variable refrigerant flow. Daikin’s VRV Life can have multiple head units, evaporator coils, or ducted air handlers connected to it, up to 16 technically it’s pretty impressive. But that’s your best bet
Hi, we live in Chicago suburbs. Hot and humid in the summer, but cold in the winter. We just got solar and want to maximize our efficiency, but don’t want to over spend. Have a quote for Carrier - Infinity 59MN7 (Variable) + 25NA8 (5 Stage), 59TN6 (2 Stage) + 25NA8 (5 Stage). Do you think it makes sense to go with the variable system? Or is this just excessive?
In Chicago the variable speed infinity blower is going to be mostly a comfort option and depends on the price difference. In my house yes I would run one if I had the choice because it's the quietest but it's zero savings from a gas perspective compared to the 2 stage variable. Your 2 stage referenced is also variable speed because it has 2 stages and also has a variable speed blower to pair with the heat pump, but the furnace will be running a lot of the time in the heart of Chicago winter's when it's really cold
I'm out in Minnesota, looking to put a heat pump in as my ac died. I have a 2 zone ducted 2 stage carrier furnace, (59tp5a) I'd really like an inverter heat pump and when my furnace goes, a variable speed system. Are there any inverter systems that I could use without the need to change out my furnace? One contractor said the 38mura would work with it, but another said the 38mura wouldn't work with the 2 zones - which I don't really understand why it would matter since the zones are ducted post air handler? Perhaps suggesting the lower cfm from running just 1 zone would be a problem? Thanks for any insight!
I’m not sure on the 38mura, I know most systems have a communicating zone board available so for inverter systems you can still do this. I think that’s a great system option for you though
I went to the web site and followed your video but it appears something has changed?? In your video you selected a specific line item that is no longer present. It does not show a list of all the manufacturers like your does. When you click on Show More that does not show up??? Did something change or am I doing something wrong???? Robert
In Tampa? Some sort of inverter for efficiency, most efficient you can afford will pay off in the long run since your cooling season is so long there, are you specifically looking for a Carrier? If so maybe the 24HP, Trane XV20i, or a Daikin DZ9… that market has high humidity so it’s a good to get something efficient since it will run year round even for humidity removal
@@TheHVACDopeShow South of Tampa bay. Seems like the most reliable would be two speed Trane. Been warned off the multi speed units due to repair costs.
nice video. you talk a lot about cooling. what about 38MURA for cooling AND heating in a mild climate like the bay area, ca? (overnight lows of ~40F and daytime highs of 50-60F in winter, and no snow ever)
Yeah it would work great for that, in moderate climates (30F - 95F) inverters that are very efficient and really shine. You might not benefit as much as a hotter desert climate from the efficiency gains, but the system itself is running without much deration due to little extremes and the COP in heating stays much higher (3.0/3.5 or higher I believe on the 38MURA) in those types of temps.
Honestly basic single stage 15/16 seer systems are very common in medium sized homes, but it just depends on budget and desired features… if you want the quietest system go for an inverter like the Daikin Fit or Trane XV17 for example. Either of these systems work well
I don’t want a Carrier HP with a LG compressor. Any way to tell which models have the Copeland and not the LG made compressors? Getting a single stage, not an inverter.
1600sqft 2br condo in Atlanta with 20yo hvac needing recommendations on absolute best full system replacement assuming cost is not a consideration. Currently using ecobee thermostat but just want the best.
In a hot climate like Atlanta I would consider any inverter like the Daikin Fit Enhanced, or DZ9. I would say for a condo the Daikin fit enhanced is probably best (you probably only need a 3-4 ton or less system is my guess but you’re contractor will look at what you have currently and be able to advise you). You’ll get maximum comfort because they’re the quietest systems. Just make sure your contractor is familiar with best practices like installing surge protectors on inverters (if you google rsh-50 it’s a surge protector by rectorseal, they’re cheap we put them on every inverter it’s a requirement). But these are the “best” from a quiet and efficiency standpoint. If you’re in a condo and have a forced air hydronics “first co” unit then the only want to pair a Daikin fit condenser with this is AC only and with a Daikin fit gateway adapter. And I don’t know if that’s what you have (first co air handler aka “pancake unit”) but they’re common in condos. I think a fit would be plenty for what you need, and if it’s going on a patio even more of a reason because of space saving. If the fit is going on the roof I would just make sure it’s protected from Hail with a hail guard (do you get hail in Atlanta? We do in Colorado).
@@TheHVACDopeShow current system is 3 ton but ductwork is garbage and doesn't split the air to the rooms very evenly. For me the biggest interest would be no noise and second would be ability to integrate some quality hepa filtration and humidification add on. Third interest is improved efficiency. It would go on the roof 2 floors up from me. Have had hail before but not often. Would be replacing indoor handler as well but current unit sits on a shelf directly above the half height electric water heater in a 6'x6' utility closet.
What is your most trusted brand for both efficiency and reliability in hot humid south? Looking for units that would work well in a small 1200 sq ft single-family home as well as a home which is 2-stories, double the sq ft, and has two 2.5 ton units. I don't need backup heating for the 2 days a year it goes down to 50F. So I guess I'm saying a heat pump is what I think I need. I have always trusted the Carrier brand, but I'll consider any brand that offers excellent cooling, humidity control and most important low power consumption.
In your climate a Daikin fit enhanced is my go to. They’re very efficient and super quiet, and easy on the wallet compared to a higher end inverter like the 24HP (carrier) or any of the other inverters… they just come in at a very good price point and heating at 50F is not a concern for any heat pump 😁
Having a Invinity green speed HP installed as i type. Carrier has a Cool Cash rebates and ends soon. Would this be something i get from the Manufacturer or the installer?
Each unit is different, performance is just a series so I’m not sure which unit you’re referencing but the side discharge 18 seer system is an inverter, and so are some of the other systems but it’s based on the model number not just the series (series is a group of system levels)
@@TheHVACDopeShow it was the 38 mura. I am truly torn between the Diakin Fit or a 38 mura. Both come with a furnace that is eithe 96 or 97%. I live in minnesota so its a needed thing.
I was informed my heat pump unit has no refrigerant (its blowing hot air) and I will need a new unit because the refrigerant it used was banned in 2007 therefore I would need to buy a new unit, would I need to get a new unit and duct work? I live in a small condo apt style in California. Current unit is 2 ton.
Hello I have a 14 year old carrier infinity unit electric . Inside and outside unit. Can a person just have the outside unit replaced without changing the inside part?? My old unit is costing me motor , thermostat, motherboard. Now I was looking at just tge outside unit but serviceman said you have to replace as a set it’s not WiFi unit . I think he’s trying to sell me a newer more expensive one. Said something like 20,000 dollars
If your board is bad that’s the air handler, at 14 years depends on the metro it doesn’t hurt to get multiple bids for comparison but if they’re both the same age you’ll replace the condenser and coil / air handler at the same time because you’re just asking for issues like leaks on a 14 year old coil (especially true in high use climates like most of Texas, Phoenix AZ, Florida etc)… it might be a high end unit that they’re quoting you so if that’s not what you’re wanting I would ask for a different bid on a lower efficiency unit, especially if you’ve been happy with your current systems operating characteristics (noise, efficiency / electric bill etc.)
What about a Goodman HMH7 Horizontal Discharge Heat Pump? I am getting a 10 yr parts and labor warranty. It's 18seer/10.5 HSPF inverter driven. Made in China by Midea 🤷
Can you have 2 air handlers off one heat pump inverter system? I've got an old house and we don't have room for duct work between levels. If the attic did the upstairs and the basement did the downstairs that'd be the most minimally invasive. My wife hates the look of mini split systems
I believe system that use one central condenser and more than one air handlers tend to be pricy but I believe Daikin offers the VRF Life (something like that) to allow for that feature you mentioned.
@@RonGrethel I thought the VRF is cheaper than Fujitsu/Mitsubishi’s multi-air handler solutions. Sigh I guess that’s what happens when I dug into the rabbit hole of HVAC myself when I was looking to replace a side discharge unit.
So if you’re putting in air handlers you’re also running duct work. You can’t put in an air handler without ductwork. If you want a cassette those are a happy hybrid solution and don’t require duct work, but the prior comments are correct VRV Life is the system by Daikin that can connect to multiple air handler units off a single condenser, but you’re still needing to run duct work for any forced air system if you’re not installing a mini split or cassette. You should look at cassettes if you’re concerned with aesthetics, they’re still pricey but probably cheaper than a duct job.
@@TheHVACDopeShow I'm thinking less duct work running between the attic to the first floor, or the basement to the 2nd floor. I have a good size attic and basement each has easy access to the 1st or 2nd floor respectfully, but not both. Was wondering if 2 air handlers would alleviate me need to rip open lots of walls and try to squeeze ducts into closets. That kind of thing
I have Career Infinity inverter heat pump system installed 9 years ago. I live in Mid-Atlantic region. In the span of these 9 years, the inverter board was replaced twice. Thank goodness, I got 10 year parts warranty. Yet, the labor warranty was much shorter. So, the first time I, the inverter went out at around 5-year mark, I had to pay labor cost of around $1,000 for replacing the inverter. The second time, it went out at around 7-year mark, it was post-pandemic shortages of everything and I had to get in touch with Carrier itself to get a part, and it took over a month to get it. I had to use electrical / auxiliary heat all that time in the middle of winter. I can confidently advise against Career Infiniti inverter-based heat pump system. Whoever designed the system the way that puts a fragile controller board with high voltage electronics on it in the outdoor unit is probably a business genius or an Engineering moron. And of course, they don’t repair these, they replace the whole board. I will avoid these systems in the future. I pray that this inverter board will not break on me again, right after expiration of the 10-year parts warranty.
Oh, forgot to mention. The cost of this inverter board itself was about $1,000 originally. Now, it costs over $2,000, which is close to 20% of the cost of the whole system with installation.
Yes inverter boards can be pricey, sorry to hear it broke so soon, do you know if you have a surge protector installed on the unit? It’s best practices, something like the rector seal rsh-50 is what we put on every inverter system. It’s vital and protects from power surges or issue with power supply that can often cause this type of damage.
@@scoobtoober2975check into the ICM-493 surge protector for the inverter. It monitors the incoming voltage for surges and will lock itself out temporarily if a surge is detected. Helps to protect the inverter and compressor
If it works it’s all good! Only thing I’ve had with them is difficulty getting parts periodically but normally we’re able to shop around and find something but they don’t sell it at our main supply house
The audio of your videos is simply awful. Your microphone may cost a lot but it produces a muffled quality sound. And the e ho chamber you’re recording in also diminishes sound reproduction. And all that diminishes the enjoyment of your videos.
You’re right, Thanks for the heads up I didn’t catch this before upload that’s terrible, idk why it’s like that but I’ll have to record it again and will probably change the setup… I listened on low when reviewing but yeah the audio is garbage on several recent uploads. Thanks for pointing this out it’s intermittent so I’m just going to change it up
HVAC tech here. Been doing this for almost 30 years. the absolute truth is efficiency does not gaurantee reliability. Inverter systems break down more often because of the massive electronics. All manufactures have the similar design evaporator coil that will develop a leak in 1-3 years. No brand is immune to this. Costing you an extra 2,000 dollars in repairs. My advice, If you choose to get an inverter system. If 10 year parts and labor is availabe, GET IT! or Get the longest labor contract possible.
Great information. Which Carrier model of furnace and heat pump would you recommend for a 1230 square feet one level home in Quebec, Canada, so winter is about -3 to -28 degree Celsius. Thanks
I forgot to add that it is only on electricity. Thanks again.
Good presentation, thanks. Please improve your sound by not using the overly sensitive condenser microphone, use a dynamic microphone. The vulnerable workhorse used for decades, including senior UA-camrs, is the Heil PR 40.
I normally use lavs on one of these rounds of vids the mic wasn't selected resulting in garbage audio... this may have been one of them but thanks for the tip!
Very helpful information. Just one thing- RPM is already plural (revolutionS/rotationS per minute). Thus no "S" at the end.
What do you recommend for replacement regarding the following details:
Southeastern Pennsylvania. replacing Lennox outdoor unit HP25-311-2P, indoor CB30M-31-2P. House has solar. Considering either base model or an inverter to get the tax credit. This is what someone local quoted me 25SCA530A003, FJ4DNXB30L00, and a 15kw fused
Brand preference? I like the daikin fit enhanced, hits the tax credit in your region and keeps up down to 5/10F depending on sizing and load in your area
@ oh these were carrier units I was looking at. That’s who my general contractor works directly with
Looking for a system in NY state, most affordable quote is a Lennox cold climate, variable speed. Can I trust for this to work without needing to keep my gas boiler when it’s sub 30 degrees? (I’ve been warned that my electric bill will skyrocket) but I have solar panels. I prefer to eliminate my gas boiler completely.
-30F ? No the heat pump will not keep up but your air handler should have a backup electric heat kit for those nights if it gets that cold. If you’re getting rid of your boiler you might look into an air to water heat pump if you have radiant floors, if you have baseboards the r290 stuff isn’t here anytime soon from what I’ve heard so I’d stick with a forced air heat pump. But any heat pump needs backup heat at those temps except for geothermal but that’s a different story
Thank you. Just to clarify, I meant when temps are 30 degrees or less. (Not -30)
I live in Canada Ontario. Winters vary from -3. To -28. Technitions that I deal with are on the fence with heat pumps. They mention the technology is not quite there. Coils freeze up, tech's need to come out to fix heat pumps. One guy that has a heat pump mentioned on cold days will take a long time to heat up his house. He heats with wood his main source of heating. What is the right heat pump to have in my area
Anything cold climate, -28F or -28C ? Because -28C is -19F which is at the limit of most cold climate heat pumps, but -3C is only 26F and not even a big deal. We run systems in Colorado with 5F switchover temps (meaning they switch to backup furnace heat) which is -15C. So it just depends how often it hits -28 and if that’s F or Celsius. But you’ll definitely want backup heat or a dual fuel option with backup furnace just for those coldest nights. The Gree Products and several of the Mitsubishi and Daikin Mini splits can heat down to -20/30C no problem but backup heat is still something you’ll want in that climate
@@TheHVACDopeShow Do carrier systems have similar performance in these temperatures?
ie. 38MGHB
I received a quote from a contractor I really liked for the Carrier (with labour warranty) but am slightly weary. This would be the primary heat source in a cold weather canadian climate
Thank you for doing this. I am looking to replace our Oil heat boiler. We live in South East PA and was looking at a variable systems. Was thinking of running two separate systems one for 1st floor and one for second floor. Do you think this will work in our area
Yes two systems for separate floors will always maximize comfort from a zoning perspective and help to pinpoint your cooling and heating targets
Hi and thank you for your help. I am looking for a solid recommendation but all this HVAC stuff and heat pump discussion makes my head spin. I live in just outside of Sacramento, CA. Looking to update my dated HVAC unit in a 2 story home with split system - 2 Trane HVAC XL20i comfort link units (3 ton & 4 ton) - with 2 working speeds. Looking at the Carrier Infinity line due to the efficiency, reliability as well as the multiple speed options to help lower overall cost of running the system. I have PGE for home gas and electric and its EXPENSIVE! I also have roof top solar panels to help off set electricity costs. Home is roughtly 3850sq feet, 4BR, 3.5ba. What are you recommending in this type of home??? Summers can be hot, with variable high temps but typically rarely more than 40 days total of the summer temps above 100 and winters not common to be below 30s. Thanks for any advice and for making this video...very helpful.
Those Trane systems you referenced are great for your climate, and if energy is over .30-40 cents a kWh (we only pay .12 in Denver for comparison) then those heat pumps especially with the solar offset will be your most economical choice most likely, but expensive is all relative so if you know your electric rate I can provide more accurate info but those are great systems (Trane or carrier inverters) so you can’t go wrong, hope that helps!
Thanks for your help. My Pge rates as a solar customer are 0.40/kwh off peak and 0.50/kwh on peak (4p-9p in summer) rates drop to 0.39 in fall/winter. From what I’m gathering the efficiency of a variable speed system like the infinity by carrier may help lower costs vs my current 2 speed system. My current system is 15 years old. Showing signs of its age and use. I also maximize using a whole house fan when the weather permits in the mornings and late evenings.
I live in the high desert of So Cal in a 34 year old 2-story house with the original Carrier 5 ton furnace single stage a/c unit. House has vaulted ceilings throughout the 2700sq ft house also with original windows which seem to not be very insulating these days. Also our ductwork is beginning to crumble due to the age. We installed a mini-split in the master bedroom & bath a few years back as the single 5 ton unit wasn’t cutting it for the whole house and costs a ton in the summer to cool when it’s regularly over 100degF in the summer but with low humidity. Winters aren’t that cold but does get below freezing many days a year. We’re considering a heat pump to take advantage of federal credits for the remainder of the house as the old Carrier unit is well past its prime and likely ready to fail at any moment. I’m wondering what units you’d suggest for our hot desert climate So Cal house?
Over 100F is different than over 110F so if it’s over 110F like Phoenix or Palm desert I would strongly push you to consider an inverter just for efficiency sake. Also more comfortable. In high ambient temps above 110F you’ll probably stick with something like the Daikin DZ9 (22seer2), Trane XV17/or XV20i, or Carriers 24 SEER system. Just make sure the system you’re installing qualifies because on a lot of the 5 ton versions the ratings don’t quite hit the tax credit, however I believe the Trane Units do
One of the most important factors is how low an outdoor temperature a heat pump can run. I seldom see that information specifically called out in consumer data. I've seen a lot of customers' bills spike because they're kicking into electric resistance backup heat. Also do you know of any brands other than Mitsubishi where you can simultaneously connect the same outdoor unit to a forced air plus ductless?
Yes Daikin does this so does Mitsubishi like you mentioned and Fujitsu. It’s called VRF technology, or variable refrigerant flow. Daikin’s VRV Life can have multiple head units, evaporator coils, or ducted air handlers connected to it, up to 16 technically it’s pretty impressive. But that’s your best bet
Please update the link to Energy Star. It doesn’t match the video as of October 22.
They changed it unfortunately the new site sucks
Hi, we live in Chicago suburbs. Hot and humid in the summer, but cold in the winter. We just got solar and want to maximize our efficiency, but don’t want to over spend. Have a quote for Carrier - Infinity 59MN7 (Variable) + 25NA8 (5 Stage), 59TN6 (2 Stage) + 25NA8 (5 Stage). Do you think it makes sense to go with the variable system? Or is this just excessive?
2800 sq feet, sorry
In Chicago the variable speed infinity blower is going to be mostly a comfort option and depends on the price difference. In my house yes I would run one if I had the choice because it's the quietest but it's zero savings from a gas perspective compared to the 2 stage variable. Your 2 stage referenced is also variable speed because it has 2 stages and also has a variable speed blower to pair with the heat pump, but the furnace will be running a lot of the time in the heart of Chicago winter's when it's really cold
But in summary no efficiency savings, only comfort... they're both 96% or so efficient so it's not a gas $$ savings it's just quieter on startup
I'm out in Minnesota, looking to put a heat pump in as my ac died. I have a 2 zone ducted 2 stage carrier furnace, (59tp5a) I'd really like an inverter heat pump and when my furnace goes, a variable speed system. Are there any inverter systems that I could use without the need to change out my furnace? One contractor said the 38mura would work with it, but another said the 38mura wouldn't work with the 2 zones - which I don't really understand why it would matter since the zones are ducted post air handler? Perhaps suggesting the lower cfm from running just 1 zone would be a problem? Thanks for any insight!
I’m not sure on the 38mura, I know most systems have a communicating zone board available so for inverter systems you can still do this. I think that’s a great system option for you though
I went to the web site and followed your video but it appears something has changed?? In your video you selected a specific line item that is no longer present. It does not show a list of all the manufacturers like your does. When you click on Show More that does not show up??? Did something change or am I doing something wrong???? Robert
The energy star website has changed the new one sucks unfortunately you’re not alone it’s off now
3200 sq foot house, tampa bay area, built 96, concrete block, foam board wall insulation, fiberglass in attic....what would you recomend?
In Tampa? Some sort of inverter for efficiency, most efficient you can afford will pay off in the long run since your cooling season is so long there, are you specifically looking for a Carrier? If so maybe the 24HP, Trane XV20i, or a Daikin DZ9… that market has high humidity so it’s a good to get something efficient since it will run year round even for humidity removal
@@TheHVACDopeShow South of Tampa bay. Seems like the most reliable would be two speed Trane. Been warned off the multi speed units due to repair costs.
nice video. you talk a lot about cooling.
what about 38MURA for cooling AND heating in a mild climate like the bay area, ca? (overnight lows of ~40F and daytime highs of 50-60F in winter, and no snow ever)
Yeah it would work great for that, in moderate climates (30F - 95F) inverters that are very efficient and really shine. You might not benefit as much as a hotter desert climate from the efficiency gains, but the system itself is running without much deration due to little extremes and the COP in heating stays much higher (3.0/3.5 or higher I believe on the 38MURA) in those types of temps.
What you see installed most frequently . Westside jacksonville Fl? 2300 sq ft split level
Honestly basic single stage 15/16 seer systems are very common in medium sized homes, but it just depends on budget and desired features… if you want the quietest system go for an inverter like the Daikin Fit or Trane XV17 for example. Either of these systems work well
I don’t want a Carrier HP with a LG compressor. Any way to tell which models have the Copeland and not the LG made compressors? Getting a single stage, not an inverter.
Not sure honestly that’s the first time I’ve heard that
LG does not manufacture compressors. I sold Carrier for over 40 years and they had Copeland or Bristol compressors.
@@peterdutile8012
LG does now. Google it. Carrier uses them. Appears they started using a mix of brands due to supply chain issues.
1600sqft 2br condo in Atlanta with 20yo hvac needing recommendations on absolute best full system replacement assuming cost is not a consideration. Currently using ecobee thermostat but just want the best.
In a hot climate like Atlanta I would consider any inverter like the Daikin Fit Enhanced, or DZ9. I would say for a condo the Daikin fit enhanced is probably best (you probably only need a 3-4 ton or less system is my guess but you’re contractor will look at what you have currently and be able to advise you). You’ll get maximum comfort because they’re the quietest systems. Just make sure your contractor is familiar with best practices like installing surge protectors on inverters (if you google rsh-50 it’s a surge protector by rectorseal, they’re cheap we put them on every inverter it’s a requirement). But these are the “best” from a quiet and efficiency standpoint. If you’re in a condo and have a forced air hydronics “first co” unit then the only want to pair a Daikin fit condenser with this is AC only and with a Daikin fit gateway adapter. And I don’t know if that’s what you have (first co air handler aka “pancake unit”) but they’re common in condos. I think a fit would be plenty for what you need, and if it’s going on a patio even more of a reason because of space saving. If the fit is going on the roof I would just make sure it’s protected from Hail with a hail guard (do you get hail in Atlanta? We do in Colorado).
@@TheHVACDopeShow current system is 3 ton but ductwork is garbage and doesn't split the air to the rooms very evenly. For me the biggest interest would be no noise and second would be ability to integrate some quality hepa filtration and humidification add on. Third interest is improved efficiency. It would go on the roof 2 floors up from me. Have had hail before but not often. Would be replacing indoor handler as well but current unit sits on a shelf directly above the half height electric water heater in a 6'x6' utility closet.
What is your most trusted brand for both efficiency and reliability in hot humid south? Looking for units that would work well in a small 1200 sq ft single-family home as well as a home which is 2-stories, double the sq ft, and has two 2.5 ton units. I don't need backup heating for the 2 days a year it goes down to 50F. So I guess I'm saying a heat pump is what I think I need. I have always trusted the Carrier brand, but I'll consider any brand that offers excellent cooling, humidity control and most important low power consumption.
In your climate a Daikin fit enhanced is my go to. They’re very efficient and super quiet, and easy on the wallet compared to a higher end inverter like the 24HP (carrier) or any of the other inverters… they just come in at a very good price point and heating at 50F is not a concern for any heat pump 😁
what do you think about the eg4 mini splits ac/dc units are they any good ////
Not sure honestly
Having a Invinity green speed HP installed as i type. Carrier has a Cool Cash rebates and ends soon. Would this be something i get from the Manufacturer or the installer?
I’m not sure my guess is from the installer that’s how Daikin does it but it might be carrier directly
It’s from the manufacturer. However, Carrier charges half of that rebate back to the dealer!
On Carriers website, it states the performance series is a two stage or single stage compressor. The graph you show says its a variable. which is it?
Each unit is different, performance is just a series so I’m not sure which unit you’re referencing but the side discharge 18 seer system is an inverter, and so are some of the other systems but it’s based on the model number not just the series (series is a group of system levels)
@@TheHVACDopeShow it was the 38 mura. I am truly torn between the Diakin Fit or a 38 mura. Both come with a furnace that is eithe 96 or 97%. I live in minnesota so its a needed thing.
My Daikin MXL 18,000 BTU enhanced capacity inverter driven compressor heat pump is extremely quiet both inside and outside.
Great system!
I was informed my heat pump unit has no refrigerant (its blowing hot air) and I will need a new unit because the refrigerant it used was banned in 2007 therefore I would need to buy a new unit, would I need to get a new unit and duct work? I live in a small condo apt style in California. Current unit is 2 ton.
Just a new unit not new ductwork… if you have R22 they’ll advise upgrading because cost for refrigerant makes it not worth it on an older system.
Hello I have a 14 year old carrier infinity unit electric . Inside and outside unit. Can a person just have the outside unit replaced without changing the inside part?? My old unit is costing me motor , thermostat, motherboard. Now I was looking at just tge outside unit but serviceman said you have to replace as a set it’s not WiFi unit . I think he’s trying to sell me a newer more expensive one. Said something like 20,000 dollars
If your board is bad that’s the air handler, at 14 years depends on the metro it doesn’t hurt to get multiple bids for comparison but if they’re both the same age you’ll replace the condenser and coil / air handler at the same time because you’re just asking for issues like leaks on a 14 year old coil (especially true in high use climates like most of Texas, Phoenix AZ, Florida etc)… it might be a high end unit that they’re quoting you so if that’s not what you’re wanting I would ask for a different bid on a lower efficiency unit, especially if you’ve been happy with your current systems operating characteristics (noise, efficiency / electric bill etc.)
What about a Goodman HMH7 Horizontal
Discharge Heat Pump? I am getting a 10 yr parts and labor warranty. It's 18seer/10.5 HSPF inverter driven. Made in China by Midea 🤷
HMH7 is York not Goodman, they’re good but don’t work well in hot climates (like Phoenix for example)
Can you have 2 air handlers off one heat pump inverter system? I've got an old house and we don't have room for duct work between levels. If the attic did the upstairs and the basement did the downstairs that'd be the most minimally invasive. My wife hates the look of mini split systems
I believe system that use one central condenser and more than one air handlers tend to be pricy but I believe Daikin offers the VRF Life (something like that) to allow for that feature you mentioned.
@@PHamster more or less pricey than running duct work in a 200 year old house 😅
@@RonGrethel I thought the VRF is cheaper than Fujitsu/Mitsubishi’s multi-air handler solutions.
Sigh I guess that’s what happens when I dug into the rabbit hole of HVAC myself when I was looking to replace a side discharge unit.
So if you’re putting in air handlers you’re also running duct work. You can’t put in an air handler without ductwork. If you want a cassette those are a happy hybrid solution and don’t require duct work, but the prior comments are correct VRV Life is the system by Daikin that can connect to multiple air handler units off a single condenser, but you’re still needing to run duct work for any forced air system if you’re not installing a mini split or cassette. You should look at cassettes if you’re concerned with aesthetics, they’re still pricey but probably cheaper than a duct job.
@@TheHVACDopeShow I'm thinking less duct work running between the attic to the first floor, or the basement to the 2nd floor. I have a good size attic and basement each has easy access to the 1st or 2nd floor respectfully, but not both. Was wondering if 2 air handlers would alleviate me need to rip open lots of walls and try to squeeze ducts into closets. That kind of thing
I have Career Infinity inverter heat pump system installed 9 years ago. I live in Mid-Atlantic region. In the span of these 9 years, the inverter board was replaced twice. Thank goodness, I got 10 year parts warranty. Yet, the labor warranty was much shorter. So, the first time I, the inverter went out at around 5-year mark, I had to pay labor cost of around $1,000 for replacing the inverter. The second time, it went out at around 7-year mark, it was post-pandemic shortages of everything and I had to get in touch with Carrier itself to get a part, and it took over a month to get it. I had to use electrical / auxiliary heat all that time in the middle of winter.
I can confidently advise against Career Infiniti inverter-based heat pump system. Whoever designed the system the way that puts a fragile controller board with high voltage electronics on it in the outdoor unit is probably a business genius or an Engineering moron. And of course, they don’t repair these, they replace the whole board.
I will avoid these systems in the future. I pray that this inverter board will not break on me again, right after expiration of the 10-year parts warranty.
Oh, forgot to mention. The cost of this inverter board itself was about $1,000 originally. Now, it costs over $2,000, which is close to 20% of the cost of the whole system with installation.
Yes inverter boards can be pricey, sorry to hear it broke so soon, do you know if you have a surge protector installed on the unit? It’s best practices, something like the rector seal rsh-50 is what we put on every inverter system. It’s vital and protects from power surges or issue with power supply that can often cause this type of damage.
Thanks for the heads up
@@scoobtoober2975check into the ICM-493 surge protector for the inverter. It monitors the incoming voltage for surges and will lock itself out temporarily if a surge is detected. Helps to protect the inverter and compressor
I have an ICP (comfort maker). It’s the knock off brand.
Not nice as Carrier I guess?
If it works it’s all good! Only thing I’ve had with them is difficulty getting parts periodically but normally we’re able to shop around and find something but they don’t sell it at our main supply house
DAIKIN IS NOT GOOD, STEER AWAY, AND ITS HORRIBLE AT TECHNICAL SUPPORT. just because it's quiet doesn’t mean it's good.
They’re regarded as one of the best in the world, I’d have to disagree
Daikin is quality! Tech support is great! Our distributor is outstanding! You need a new dealer!
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The audio of your videos is simply awful. Your microphone may cost a lot but it produces a muffled quality sound. And the e ho chamber you’re recording in also diminishes sound reproduction. And all that diminishes the enjoyment of your videos.
You’re right, Thanks for the heads up I didn’t catch this before upload that’s terrible, idk why it’s like that but I’ll have to record it again and will probably change the setup… I listened on low when reviewing but yeah the audio is garbage on several recent uploads. Thanks for pointing this out it’s intermittent so I’m just going to change it up