I was excited to see the emergence of an 'Earth New Guardians' - a representative from earth for each of the lantern colours - in the Brightest Day New Guardians story but it sadly fizzled out - I'd like to see that done properly in a giant story that sees each lantern affect considerable changes around the globe. Though what i REALLY want to see is that happen IRL!
@@MosaicComics Indeed - surely the potential perspective on say compassion is going to resonate much stronger for the reader if the character looks after children in a war zone than if they were an Egg-Matriarch of the Zoopflod, ever protectful against the coming of the Dark Flobulons or whatever. Although, that actually sounds quite entertaining too.
Too bad that the out of the main Green Lantern title, all the other series had those significant dropping sales, all those stories were fun and entertaining. Maybe it was because at one point, having so many aliens and adventures out of space made the series too distant to the readers. I've always assumed that's why they keep introducing new characters (increasingly faster and more often), because of the need to appeal to reader's new tastes, making them to be more more identifiable with audiences.
I think it might've helped a lot if each book took place somewhere different, instead of all being space adventures. Lanterns can go anywhere, so the variety of locations should be as wide as the variety of characters.
Something this video forgot to mention was that the Sinestro series at that time outlasted new guardians, red lanterns and even green lantern corps. I think there’s an audience for space adventures like that but there were too many titles and a lot of readers quit after Johns left. With the new lanterns, it just feels like new writers trying to make a quick buck with new IP because far sector was all in space. I agree with you but I do think it is wrong. If Johns proved anything. The main GLs can be great on their own.
Great video! I loved all the New 52 Lantern books. You did an awesome job of showing that often people say one thing but do something else with their money.
I think a big irl explanation is built into the concept of the Corps. In other DC "families," you can't just have someone pop up and claim the mantle. (even if they're sharing) In most cases, there's a loooong process of being a supporting character first before being able to convince readers they're worthy of taking the main stage. BUT, the GLC cuts out the middle-man because anyone selected is already deemed worthy. Once selected (and put through a really quick training period) they're essentially equal to any other member of the GLC. (in-universe)
I honestly hate how in dc earth is the center of everything, and how humans is the most important people of all time. I think green lantern would really work better as its own thing instead of being a part of dc. I kind of just read green lantern comics from the silver age now because of that. I liked how back than earth was just really a drop of water in an endless universe and wasn't really all that special in the grand scheme of things. At least a lot less so than it is now. The finial straw for me that turned me off of modern green lantern was life beginning on earth making it the center of the universe when it was well established for like 50 years that life began with the guardians. also so many people have used power rings that they lost all their meaning and just anyone can use them. Also the guardians being evil half the time is something I don't care for either.
Early in the Johns run, they showed alien GL's talk about Earth like a backwater, underdeveloped world. It was kinda refreshing to see Earth viewed that way by someone who doesn't live here...of course that was just introduced to completely reverse it later, but it's still nice to have.
I knw how you feel, nothing I hate more then the making of earth some linchpin of everything that ever happened, it's always poorly done & what has drove me to Marvel alot of the time. Earth used to be some place where thing happened but it wasn't the end all & be all. The guardians seem to be suffering from wrighters who think they are British for some reason that all the explanations I have for them alway being made to seem incompetent after 5 billion years of having their eyes on the ball. Also it means nothing if everyone can get a ring is from earth in sector 2814. Funny how Hal, Guy, John & Kyle are the only four who have any valid reason while the new bunch are some random hires
@@akhonaluthuli5931 Kyle was the ultimate random hire. He was getting drunk in the middle of the day and stumbled out of the bar's back door, and just happened to be right next to the random spot Ganthet landed. Ganthet even looked at him and said "You'll have to do".
@@MosaicComics I know all that, what I mean is that canonically he was part & parcel of the larger story of earths GLs, he was what you might call the end of a generation. What started with the death of Abin Sur to Hal becoming Parallax could be call the whole story of the in universe 15/17 years of Green lantern mythos. Kyle rayner is how the GLC died in the Universe, with one ring left he would have been the last knw Green lantern alive, after all this was the second time in 2 years that the GLC had been destroyed first by the death of Sinestro then by Hal so Kyle never really neede to be the most qualified just the last of the great Corps if comics had a conclusion end it would be that the Guardian don't exist in the future because of Hal & the GLC is but a relic of a long forgotten past, how they came to their end is all but lost in the 31st century with Kyle dying in some far off world in the greater universe or something
Great video and lots of great points for the sales numbers👍 I know it's been said a hundred times over the past 30+ years but I do gotta say I think we have reached a peak number for GLs😄. I just wish there were more stories that had them, there is just too many GLs and not enough books to support the characters
Check out my comment but I completely agree with you. It's hard to follow or care about any GL when they're constantly replaced or pushed into the background. And with the sales numbers, it's initially good but the video forgets to compare the later New Guardians and Red Lanterns to the other GL books of that time, including the Sinestro book which not only outlasted NG and RL but also GLC.
@@pickedceasar1216 while I like your thinking, it sadly doesn’t apply to the argument. As much as I would love great comics like red lanterns and omega men to get the attention they deserve, a lot of readers are either not able to pay for or too disinterested/distracted to buy all those books.
@@kenlsten4651 I don't think there should be a bunch of lantern books I think we should have two main series: GL and GL Corps., and the occasional miniseries about a certain Corps or character(s)
@@pickedceasar1216 for me, I would love that. I would have one of those books be an anthology with 3 stories so that at least the main 6 lanterns are always represented each month
Earth does need lots of Lanterns, but Humans are not the only Species on earth. Having Atlanteans or someone from Gorilla city would be kind of interesting. Or any of the other various Sapient species that are from Earth.
I had always thought that the reason Earth had so many green lanterns was because humans were more emotional than your average intelligent species, and were more likely to be good candidates for a lantern ring.
There's another in lore reason for there being a ton of Earth Lanterns. Basically there's multiple worlds that represent different concepts, and Earth represents heroism, so it basically just spawns Lanterns who have the potential to be some of the greatest lanterns
If the life entity was on earth for millennials and the guardians knew it was there for millennials why did it take so long for a single human to get a ring?
The Guardians wanted to keep attention away from the Earth, so they prevented any Earthlings from joining the Corps. Abin messed up their plan by coming here.
Wonder why other sectors can't have more lanterns, even if just by reference. Even just an occasional throwaway bit about most sectors having three lanterns.
" alien lanterns wouldn't sell" And yet from the Green Lantern Animated Series proved they can sell. One of the best characters was the non human Razor. He was a Red Lantern that, while still being a Red Lantern, became a Blue Lantern. He became a dual wielder of spectrum powers that hasn't been seen before. I want more Razor for the comics
Kind of. I don't remember if it's ever been directly stated, but I've always understood it to be because of all the different aliens that make up the Corps. The rings have to fit so many different species that having one standardized design won't always work, plus the rings need to be able to change their size and shape to fit whoever they go to next...Kilowag's ring might go to someone the size of a Human, and it needs to be able to change or it won't be much use. Also, the Guardians are usually pretty lenient when it comes to having a standardized design...every member of the Corps is free to change their uniform however they want, since creativity helps them do the job better, and that most likely extends to the appearance of the rings too. As long as the symbol is visible, the Guardians are happy.
I’ve been pretty hard on dc for neglecting Kyle and poorly flushing out Jessica and Simon but after watching this I’m a bit more forgiving. Still doesn’t make me like it though.
Jessica, Simon, Joe and teen lantern should be in different lantern corps. It's simple just take those characters and put them in situations where they have to adapt. It would be nice to see the strong headed Hal practice patience. The in universe reason is just not that good seems like an excuse for me.
Maybe so, but what if they run out of stories to tell, even with new original human green lanterns? To the point that they may even just rehash a previous story/arc, with little changes or differences. Where and what else is there to go after something like Far Sector? Stagnation is still a thing.
That was my thinking too (read my comment if you haven’t yet, it’s a lot but covers the problems with this video pretty well, I think). Why define a character by 1 story and constantly replace them instead of developing them to be well-rounded characters by themselves? A great character like the GLs can stand on their own and work in a bunch of different stories but restraining them to 1 story or type of story is stupid. Kyle and Hal have had constant stories and popularity for decades because the writers developed and experimented with the characters instead of just leaving them as they were from the get-go and going for a new one.
Too many Lanterns actually cheapens the title of Green Lantern since damn pretty much anyone can call himself one. They need to reduce human lanterns. I would go with hal, John, guy and Jessica. Only reason Kyle was introduced because Hal wasn't selling, they made Hal parallax and later introduced Kyle. He went on to become all powerful space Jesus character and now they don't know what to do with him. Reintroduced Hal so now Kyle just hangs around as a Lackey. Green lantern is such a mess. They need to go back to single protagonist driven stories, reduce human lanterns and explore Villains outside of the emotional spectrum. Everything going back to guardians or connected to spectrum is kinda predictable.
@@gabbar51ngh I completely agree with you for the most part. While I want the GLs to be more special and limited to have a few humans, Kyle should always be around. Yeah, Hal took over but Kyle still had a lot of development and stories in GLC, new guardians, omega men and even Hal’s dc rebirth series and there’s still a lot of development for him in the future as a GL or white lantern. So I would limit it to Hal, John, guy, Kyle and Jess and either ignore the rest or put them in other corps. And after no one has used the emotional spectrum in the last 3 years, I miss it. I want variety in villains but the ES is just a great part of the new GL Mythos. Btw, check out my other comment on this video. I think you’ll like what I say there.
Theres no reason for that many GLs. With 4 there were already too much. The only reason Jessica became popular was because she was the first (and should have been) human GL. And since Geoff Johns created Simon and did nothing with him he just got around. This is what I´ll do: 1- Hal be the MAIN Lantern. 2. Kyle a White Lantern. 3. Guy a Red Lantern 4. Simon to the Far Sector. 5. Jessica takes turns with Hal every now and then. 5. Stewart an Alpha Lantern.
I like your video but most of your arguments after around 6:00 are extremely flawed. I'm sorry the rest of this comment can be crass but I fundamentally disagree with a lot of your points and feel these kinds of ideas are ruining modern GL. While I like Jo, you could have easily had John (who has similar experiences as a Black veteran), Simon (whose struggles as a Muslim American could've easily fit the story), and/or even Guy (whose history as a police officer and part of a police family could've been tackled and redefined) in the story instead which could've had just as powerful or been even more impactful of a story than we're getting. Jess and Kyle (both Hispanic/Latinx Americans) could've fit the role too like any other lantern who would struggle in this environment and learn from it. It's the same problem as your argument for Simon's extra powers: You don't really compare or take into account the struggles and histories of the other lanterns that easily parallel the new lanterns DC keeps lazily creating. If you wanted a new lantern to be unique, some options are not to have them be American or not have a military history again and again. Give them interests, behaviors, and perspectives that aren't just the same as the other lanterns. It's what I like (and was disappointed they didn't really explore yet) with Teen Lantern. At the same time, I'm sorry I have to be honest but the idea that developing lanterns limits their viability for new stories and experiments is complete crap. Instead of constantly creating new lanterns, keep developing the ones they have so each of them can stand toe to toe with Batman and Superman. Kyle was the newest lantern for almost 2 decades (if you don't count jade's short stint) before Simon was created. It allowed Kyle to become a strong, well-rounded character with great relationships and histories with other lanterns and heroes and even a rogue's gallery on par with Hal Jordan. Hal, John, Guy, and Kyle became beloved, great characters through decades of experimentation and development that should never, ever end. People still want more exploration for John. It's what made things like Mosaic, Omega Men, and Guy's Red lanterns so essential and memorable to the history of the franchise. Immediately after Simon was created and JLA was canceled, he was pushed into cameo appearances and replaced by Jessica. 2 years after GLs ended, Simon went back into obscurity and has mostly been forgotten. Even Jess is barely in comics anymore. Why should we care about Jo when they're gonna replace her with Tai, Keli, or another random new lantern someday? Green Lantern already represents so many different perspectives, cultures, and experiences and it's an insult to push them aside and ignore them. Constantly making new lanterns diminishes and disrespects the franchise's history and confuses new and old readers alike. It's the same problem with Flash where they keep adding characters like the Future state Flash instead of developing the diverse flash characters they already have (and could be members of the LGBT+ community too) like Wallace, Avery, and Wally's kids. Also, it's hard to take your statics (after Johns' left) seriously when you don't compare them to all the other GL books of that time, specifically Sinestro's series which outlasted not only new guardians and red lanterns but also GLC, Lost Army, and almost Omega Men (which was almost canceled at #7). Also, you have to remember those statistics were during a time when a lot of fans dropped off of GL after Johns left. I still remember everybody calling GL #20 the perfect drop-off point for readers so who knows if GL, GLC, and Sinestro were outselling or selling less than New Guardians and RL because you don't show it. While I really appreciate you using these statistics, don't forget important facts like these that fundamentally redefine and change the legitimacy of your argument. Take some inspiration from "Comics, by Perch" which has made multiple statistic videos like this.
@@carbootstudios2459 Reading from volume 4 so I think it's issue 25. Rankorr has asked what a Dyson sphere is and Bleez is complaining that earth children are taught nothing. Zox explains and Rankorr asked what it's used for. Bleez: How can you not-- Rankorr: Shut it, Bleez. Name me one pink Floyd tune. Just one. You can't, I'll wager. Lack of education is a relative thing, missie.
3600 lanterns and no one has the talent to write for any of the alien ones. i mean Hal is the greatest, but that is why there are so many earth bound losers. earth needs 2. Alan (non-homo) and HJ
I completly disagree with your points here. The life thing being on earth makes good for a plot point as to why there are so many earth lanterns. But why are they all from USA and not from the Amazon or Atlantis? also the excuse of we need to make new green lanterns is a poor excuse just have one GL you already have go through a character arc.........😑. Like you know why they making these lanterns is cuz of bad writing and to fill a DEI demographic
There are more green lanterns because of the woke push. Hence why the latest lanterns have all been brown skinned. This includes the gold lantern from the Legion. The last 5-6 lanterns have all been diverse characters. I wish I were wrong, but I'm not. The sorrow Lantern can be a white guy, though, because he's sad and pathetic. That's acceptable for white folk, or at least that's how they portray their thinking.
There's actually been a lot of white people with Lantern rings getting the spotlight lately. Hal and Carol have been at the center of the GL ongoing series for the last two years, with Carol just recently joining the Justice League. Guy has been appearing pretty regularly in the main story and backups, and will be featured in a new GLC ongoing starting in February. Justice Society of America just ended, replaced by a new book titled JSA, and Alan's in both. In addition to that, Alan had his own miniseries, that also introduced the Golden Age Red Lantern. Caolan Shepherd has been around since the beginning of GL War Journal. And as you pointed out, Nathan is the Sorrow Lantern, and will be central to the next big GL storyline. So there you go, DC has actually been giving a lot of attention to seven white people with Lantern rings. Hope that helps put your mind at ease.
I always hated the idea having 4 and now 7? earth lanterns, mainly because I like alien characters like Kilowog more than most of the earth lanterns. With 7 earth lanterns, everyone has to be something important. So at the start of rebirth, John Stewart has to be the leader of the GL corps, not someone like Kilowog , Salakk or even Mogo, who's probably way more qualified. And during big events, every earth lanterns have to be amazing and decimate everything they face. This just leaves most alien lanterns as death fodder or being incompetent.
I always assumed your videos were getting a lot more views, I've only just noticed how little they get. You deserve more.
I appreciate that you think I'm that good, thank you
@@MosaicComics I look forward to the day you're getting atleast another 3 or 4 digits on your views👍
I was excited to see the emergence of an 'Earth New Guardians' - a representative from earth for each of the lantern colours - in the Brightest Day New Guardians story but it sadly fizzled out - I'd like to see that done properly in a giant story that sees each lantern affect considerable changes around the globe.
Though what i REALLY want to see is that happen IRL!
It really is surprising how few Humans get recruited into other Corps, not counting Green Lanterns who change rings.
@@MosaicComics Indeed - surely the potential perspective on say compassion is going to resonate much stronger for the reader if the character looks after children in a war zone than if they were an Egg-Matriarch of the Zoopflod, ever protectful against the coming of the Dark Flobulons or whatever.
Although, that actually sounds quite entertaining too.
Next time can you say where did they come from the ring
Wait, I just realized that there are 7 lanterns and 7 main color corps! Come on DC let's shake it up!
😄
They tried and the numbers didn't do so hot.
A Jessica Cruz feature story would be a big seller.
Considering everything she's been through, she could've been the breakout character of 2020.
Yea
Too bad that the out of the main Green Lantern title, all the other series had those significant dropping sales, all those stories were fun and entertaining. Maybe it was because at one point, having so many aliens and adventures out of space made the series too distant to the readers. I've always assumed that's why they keep introducing new characters (increasingly faster and more often), because of the need to appeal to reader's new tastes, making them to be more more identifiable with audiences.
I think it might've helped a lot if each book took place somewhere different, instead of all being space adventures. Lanterns can go anywhere, so the variety of locations should be as wide as the variety of characters.
@@MosaicComics I totally agree! There's endless possibilities there!
Something this video forgot to mention was that the Sinestro series at that time outlasted new guardians, red lanterns and even green lantern corps. I think there’s an audience for space adventures like that but there were too many titles and a lot of readers quit after Johns left. With the new lanterns, it just feels like new writers trying to make a quick buck with new IP because far sector was all in space. I agree with you but I do think it is wrong. If Johns proved anything. The main GLs can be great on their own.
Great video! I loved all the New 52 Lantern books. You did an awesome job of showing that often people say one thing but do something else with their money.
I think a big irl explanation is built into the concept of the Corps. In other DC "families," you can't just have someone pop up and claim the mantle. (even if they're sharing) In most cases, there's a loooong process of being a supporting character first before being able to convince readers they're worthy of taking the main stage. BUT, the GLC cuts out the middle-man because anyone selected is already deemed worthy. Once selected (and put through a really quick training period) they're essentially equal to any other member of the GLC. (in-universe)
I honestly hate how in dc earth is the center of everything, and how humans is the most important people of all time. I think green lantern would really work better as its own thing instead of being a part of dc. I kind of just read green lantern comics from the silver age now because of that. I liked how back than earth was just really a drop of water in an endless universe and wasn't really all that special in the grand scheme of things. At least a lot less so than it is now. The finial straw for me that turned me off of modern green lantern was life beginning on earth making it the center of the universe when it was well established for like 50 years that life began with the guardians. also so many people have used power rings that they lost all their meaning and just anyone can use them. Also the guardians being evil half the time is something I don't care for either.
Early in the Johns run, they showed alien GL's talk about Earth like a backwater, underdeveloped world. It was kinda refreshing to see Earth viewed that way by someone who doesn't live here...of course that was just introduced to completely reverse it later, but it's still nice to have.
I knw how you feel, nothing I hate more then the making of earth some linchpin of everything that ever happened, it's always poorly done & what has drove me to Marvel alot of the time.
Earth used to be some place where thing happened but it wasn't the end all & be all.
The guardians seem to be suffering from wrighters who think they are British for some reason that all the explanations I have for them alway being made to seem incompetent after 5 billion years of having their eyes on the ball.
Also it means nothing if everyone can get a ring is from earth in sector 2814. Funny how Hal, Guy, John & Kyle are the only four who have any valid reason while the new bunch are some random hires
@@akhonaluthuli5931 Kyle was the ultimate random hire. He was getting drunk in the middle of the day and stumbled out of the bar's back door, and just happened to be right next to the random spot Ganthet landed. Ganthet even looked at him and said "You'll have to do".
@@MosaicComics I know all that, what I mean is that canonically he was part & parcel of the larger story of earths GLs, he was what you might call the end of a generation. What started with the death of Abin Sur to Hal becoming Parallax could be call the whole story of the in universe 15/17 years of Green lantern mythos.
Kyle rayner is how the GLC died in the Universe, with one ring left he would have been the last knw Green lantern alive, after all this was the second time in 2 years that the GLC had been destroyed first by the death of Sinestro then by Hal so Kyle never really neede to be the most qualified just the last of the great Corps if comics had a conclusion end it would be that the Guardian don't exist in the future because of Hal & the GLC is but a relic of a long forgotten past, how they came to their end is all but lost in the 31st century with Kyle dying in some far off world in the greater universe or something
Agreed
Great video and lots of great points for the sales numbers👍
I know it's been said a hundred times over the past 30+ years but I do gotta say I think we have reached a peak number for GLs😄.
I just wish there were more stories that had them, there is just too many GLs and not enough books to support the characters
Check out my comment but I completely agree with you. It's hard to follow or care about any GL when they're constantly replaced or pushed into the background. And with the sales numbers, it's initially good but the video forgets to compare the later New Guardians and Red Lanterns to the other GL books of that time, including the Sinestro book which not only outlasted NG and RL but also GLC.
@@kenlsten4651 also he neglects the actually quality of the books
@@pickedceasar1216 while I like your thinking, it sadly doesn’t apply to the argument. As much as I would love great comics like red lanterns and omega men to get the attention they deserve, a lot of readers are either not able to pay for or too disinterested/distracted to buy all those books.
@@kenlsten4651 I don't think there should be a bunch of lantern books I think we should have two main series: GL and GL Corps., and the occasional miniseries about a certain Corps or character(s)
@@pickedceasar1216 for me, I would love that. I would have one of those books be an anthology with 3 stories so that at least the main 6 lanterns are always represented each month
Earth does need lots of Lanterns, but Humans are not the only Species on earth. Having Atlanteans or someone from Gorilla city would be kind of interesting. Or any of the other various Sapient species that are from Earth.
This or not have the lantern always be base in america
nice new Chanel logo :D
You have 8 Green Lanterns including Alan Scott aka GREEN LANTERN the FIRST Green Lantern Blessings and HUGS! 👑💜
And lets not forget jla chinese team also has three additional green lanterns, who were shown with superman of korea.
In brightest day, In darkest night, No evil shall escape my sight let those who worship evils might be where my POWER, GREEN LANTERNS LIGHT!
I had always thought that the reason Earth had so many green lanterns was because humans were more emotional than your average intelligent species, and were more likely to be good candidates for a lantern ring.
There's another in lore reason for there being a ton of Earth Lanterns. Basically there's multiple worlds that represent different concepts, and Earth represents heroism, so it basically just spawns Lanterns who have the potential to be some of the greatest lanterns
If the life entity was on earth for millennials and the guardians knew it was there for millennials why did it take so long for a single human to get a ring?
The Guardians wanted to keep attention away from the Earth, so they prevented any Earthlings from joining the Corps. Abin messed up their plan by coming here.
The Millennium crossover from the 80's? Humanity's destiny as the next "godlike, cosmic race"? The Guardians are grooming Humans as their successors?
Wonder why other sectors can't have more lanterns, even if just by reference.
Even just an occasional throwaway bit about most sectors having three lanterns.
Sooo, you're telling me that Jordan keeps hogging the limelight? Typical.
" alien lanterns wouldn't sell"
And yet from the Green Lantern Animated Series proved they can sell. One of the best characters was the non human Razor.
He was a Red Lantern that, while still being a Red Lantern, became a Blue Lantern. He became a dual wielder of spectrum powers that hasn't been seen before.
I want more Razor for the comics
I just hate when they use this as an excuse
There is a a new one?! Damn! I wish there was a subscription for Trades! We don't have a Comic Book store in my city you see :(
Is there an in-universe reason why some Green lantern rings look different
Kind of. I don't remember if it's ever been directly stated, but I've always understood it to be because of all the different aliens that make up the Corps. The rings have to fit so many different species that having one standardized design won't always work, plus the rings need to be able to change their size and shape to fit whoever they go to next...Kilowag's ring might go to someone the size of a Human, and it needs to be able to change or it won't be much use.
Also, the Guardians are usually pretty lenient when it comes to having a standardized design...every member of the Corps is free to change their uniform however they want, since creativity helps them do the job better, and that most likely extends to the appearance of the rings too. As long as the symbol is visible, the Guardians are happy.
They should reintroduce rankorr in my opinion
Absolutely. Lots of possibilities with that character, they've only explored one avenue with him.
Indeed
Anyone know where he is at now or what happened to him last?
So basically, get rid of earth and all earthlings, and the entire multiverse stops dealing with shenanigans every second
Technically yes, but only because getting rid of Earth would also destroy the Multiverse.
@@MosaicComics then let's do it. Give creation a break from the headache, lol.
I’ve been pretty hard on dc for neglecting Kyle and poorly flushing out Jessica and Simon but after watching this I’m a bit more forgiving. Still doesn’t make me like it though.
Jessica's actually coming back into the main book now, and she's starring in the GL Annual at the end of the month.
@@MosaicComics glad to hear it to be honest she’s my third favorite lantern.
@@TheEliasNoel She's up there for me, too. My list of favorites is pretty fluid, but Jessica always hangs around the top.
Jessica, Simon, Joe and teen lantern should be in different lantern corps. It's simple just take those characters and put them in situations where they have to adapt. It would be nice to see the strong headed Hal practice patience.
The in universe reason is just not that good seems like an excuse for me.
7 GLs and one book, we need more!
(2 with Jo I suppose, but it's not a major GL book)
Maybe so, but what if they run out of stories to tell, even with new original human green lanterns? To the point that they may even just rehash a previous story/arc, with little changes or differences.
Where and what else is there to go after something like Far Sector?
Stagnation is still a thing.
That was my thinking too (read my comment if you haven’t yet, it’s a lot but covers the problems with this video pretty well, I think). Why define a character by 1 story and constantly replace them instead of developing them to be well-rounded characters by themselves? A great character like the GLs can stand on their own and work in a bunch of different stories but restraining them to 1 story or type of story is stupid. Kyle and Hal have had constant stories and popularity for decades because the writers developed and experimented with the characters instead of just leaving them as they were from the get-go and going for a new one.
@@kenlsten4651 Interesting.
Too many Lanterns actually cheapens the title of Green Lantern since damn pretty much anyone can call himself one.
They need to reduce human lanterns. I would go with hal, John, guy and Jessica.
Only reason Kyle was introduced because Hal wasn't selling, they made Hal parallax and later introduced Kyle. He went on to become all powerful space Jesus character and now they don't know what to do with him. Reintroduced Hal so now Kyle just hangs around as a Lackey.
Green lantern is such a mess. They need to go back to single protagonist driven stories, reduce human lanterns and explore Villains outside of the emotional spectrum.
Everything going back to guardians or connected to spectrum is kinda predictable.
@@gabbar51ngh Good points, I won't deny.
@@gabbar51ngh I completely agree with you for the most part. While I want the GLs to be more special and limited to have a few humans, Kyle should always be around. Yeah, Hal took over but Kyle still had a lot of development and stories in GLC, new guardians, omega men and even Hal’s dc rebirth series and there’s still a lot of development for him in the future as a GL or white lantern. So I would limit it to Hal, John, guy, Kyle and Jess and either ignore the rest or put them in other corps. And after no one has used the emotional spectrum in the last 3 years, I miss it. I want variety in villains but the ES is just a great part of the new GL Mythos. Btw, check out my other comment on this video. I think you’ll like what I say there.
I would join the blue lanterns
Ditto! Bro'dee is my spirit animal!
Theres no reason for that many GLs. With 4 there were already too much. The only reason Jessica became popular was because she was the first (and should have been) human GL. And since Geoff Johns created Simon and did nothing with him he just got around.
This is what I´ll do:
1- Hal be the MAIN Lantern.
2. Kyle a White Lantern.
3. Guy a Red Lantern
4. Simon to the Far Sector.
5. Jessica takes turns with Hal every now and then.
5. Stewart an Alpha Lantern.
I like your video but most of your arguments after around 6:00 are extremely flawed. I'm sorry the rest of this comment can be crass but I fundamentally disagree with a lot of your points and feel these kinds of ideas are ruining modern GL.
While I like Jo, you could have easily had John (who has similar experiences as a Black veteran), Simon (whose struggles as a Muslim American could've easily fit the story), and/or even Guy (whose history as a police officer and part of a police family could've been tackled and redefined) in the story instead which could've had just as powerful or been even more impactful of a story than we're getting. Jess and Kyle (both Hispanic/Latinx Americans) could've fit the role too like any other lantern who would struggle in this environment and learn from it. It's the same problem as your argument for Simon's extra powers: You don't really compare or take into account the struggles and histories of the other lanterns that easily parallel the new lanterns DC keeps lazily creating. If you wanted a new lantern to be unique, some options are not to have them be American or not have a military history again and again. Give them interests, behaviors, and perspectives that aren't just the same as the other lanterns. It's what I like (and was disappointed they didn't really explore yet) with Teen Lantern.
At the same time, I'm sorry I have to be honest but the idea that developing lanterns limits their viability for new stories and experiments is complete crap. Instead of constantly creating new lanterns, keep developing the ones they have so each of them can stand toe to toe with Batman and Superman. Kyle was the newest lantern for almost 2 decades (if you don't count jade's short stint) before Simon was created. It allowed Kyle to become a strong, well-rounded character with great relationships and histories with other lanterns and heroes and even a rogue's gallery on par with Hal Jordan. Hal, John, Guy, and Kyle became beloved, great characters through decades of experimentation and development that should never, ever end. People still want more exploration for John. It's what made things like Mosaic, Omega Men, and Guy's Red lanterns so essential and memorable to the history of the franchise. Immediately after Simon was created and JLA was canceled, he was pushed into cameo appearances and replaced by Jessica. 2 years after GLs ended, Simon went back into obscurity and has mostly been forgotten. Even Jess is barely in comics anymore. Why should we care about Jo when they're gonna replace her with Tai, Keli, or another random new lantern someday? Green Lantern already represents so many different perspectives, cultures, and experiences and it's an insult to push them aside and ignore them. Constantly making new lanterns diminishes and disrespects the franchise's history and confuses new and old readers alike. It's the same problem with Flash where they keep adding characters like the Future state Flash instead of developing the diverse flash characters they already have (and could be members of the LGBT+ community too) like Wallace, Avery, and Wally's kids.
Also, it's hard to take your statics (after Johns' left) seriously when you don't compare them to all the other GL books of that time, specifically Sinestro's series which outlasted not only new guardians and red lanterns but also GLC, Lost Army, and almost Omega Men (which was almost canceled at #7). Also, you have to remember those statistics were during a time when a lot of fans dropped off of GL after Johns left. I still remember everybody calling GL #20 the perfect drop-off point for readers so who knows if GL, GLC, and Sinestro were outselling or selling less than New Guardians and RL because you don't show it. While I really appreciate you using these statistics, don't forget important facts like these that fundamentally redefine and change the legitimacy of your argument. Take some inspiration from "Comics, by Perch" which has made multiple statistic videos like this.
Fair points
Well, there is a Human Red Lantern, English fellow. OH! And Dex-Star! OF COURSE!
Sadly he died during the Red Lanterns comic. I´d wish they´d bring him back. He was great.
I loved Red Lanterns. Could have gone all edgy but was a decent character study instead.
Once they changed the creative team and brought in Guy, it became one of my favorite runs ever.
@@MosaicComics Rankorr said something that I still paraphrase: "Knowledge is relative Bleez. Name one album by Pink Floyd."
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Awesome quote. Which issue was that said?
@@carbootstudios2459 Reading from volume 4 so I think it's issue 25. Rankorr has asked what a Dyson sphere is and Bleez is complaining that earth children are taught nothing. Zox explains and Rankorr asked what it's used for.
Bleez: How can you not--
Rankorr: Shut it, Bleez. Name me one pink Floyd tune. Just one. You can't, I'll wager. Lack of education is a relative thing, missie.
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I thought it was more of because the earth is almost destroyed/conquered every few days
Damn! I was hoping for a G’Nort series (sarcasm).
Thanks
The guardians want earth to be the OA of the Fith universe. Humans will be the guardians of the fith universe.
Thats why Manhunters are on earth.
Yo why do people keep using persona 5 music?
Any GL from Mars? that would be a change from having so many humans
One of the very first rings did go to a White Martian billions of years ago.
If you need human characters to relate to, then avoid Their Majesties' Bucketeers or Neutron Star.
Think of the movies or show D.C. Will have
It's because of the Manhunters
Guardians know something fishy
Is going down on earth.
Seems like the folks who love these nongreens and nonhumans are a vocal minority in sales data...
3600 lanterns and no one has the talent to write for any of the alien ones. i mean Hal is the greatest, but that is why there are so many earth bound losers.
earth needs 2. Alan (non-homo) and HJ
I completly disagree with your points here. The life thing being on earth makes good for a plot point as to why there are so many earth lanterns. But why are they all from USA and not from the Amazon or Atlantis? also the excuse of we need to make new green lanterns is a poor excuse just have one GL you already have go through a character arc.........😑. Like you know why they making these lanterns is cuz of bad writing and to fill a DEI demographic
Also they are all American for some reason
The numerous Reboots and Retcons are telling me that Superhero Comics have Jumped The Shark.
There are more green lanterns because of the woke push. Hence why the latest lanterns have all been brown skinned. This includes the gold lantern from the Legion. The last 5-6 lanterns have all been diverse characters. I wish I were wrong, but I'm not. The sorrow Lantern can be a white guy, though, because he's sad and pathetic. That's acceptable for white folk, or at least that's how they portray their thinking.
There's actually been a lot of white people with Lantern rings getting the spotlight lately. Hal and Carol have been at the center of the GL ongoing series for the last two years, with Carol just recently joining the Justice League. Guy has been appearing pretty regularly in the main story and backups, and will be featured in a new GLC ongoing starting in February. Justice Society of America just ended, replaced by a new book titled JSA, and Alan's in both. In addition to that, Alan had his own miniseries, that also introduced the Golden Age Red Lantern. Caolan Shepherd has been around since the beginning of GL War Journal. And as you pointed out, Nathan is the Sorrow Lantern, and will be central to the next big GL storyline. So there you go, DC has actually been giving a lot of attention to seven white people with Lantern rings. Hope that helps put your mind at ease.
Lazy uninspired writing, Imho.
Because we're all sick of Hal at this point.
Kyle needs spotlight
I always hated the idea having 4 and now 7? earth lanterns, mainly because I like alien characters like Kilowog more than most of the earth lanterns. With 7 earth lanterns, everyone has to be something important. So at the start of rebirth, John Stewart has to be the leader of the GL corps, not someone like Kilowog , Salakk or even Mogo, who's probably way more qualified. And during big events, every earth lanterns have to be amazing and decimate everything they face. This just leaves most alien lanterns as death fodder or being incompetent.
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