"At End of Night, At Break of Day'' "All Fear of Death Shall Fade Away" "My Ring Shines With the Power of Life" "Evil Shall Know, White Lanterns Light!"
I’d love to see the white lantern Corps come back, sort of like a corps of pure life preserving lanterns seems like it could work. also give Kyle a white ring again too. I like the idea of Kyle being a white lantern, I grew used to that being his color and it suits him fairly well.
The White Lantern concept has enough lingering questions and a large enough dedicated cast that you could easily get a year or two out of it. Maybe someday.
@@MosaicComics I hope they come back to it someday, honestly the fact that rn there’s a white lantern daxamite out there makes me rlly want to see what they’re capable of after seeing a lot of sodam yat with a green ring and eventually ion.
@@arpitpatel2781 It does, and I've always wanted them to dig into what that means. Did the planet become sentient like Mogo? Did all that White Lantern energy change anything? We may never know, but it's the perfect setup for hundreds of stories.
I wish they had used it better. Specifically I like the idea that a wielder had to actually live life to power their ring. I also wish that they would have played around with Kyle's costume. Switching in colors or designs rather then that only being a momentary blip when the rings came together. I kind of wish Kyle would join an earth based team like the Titans and we slowly learn that he never actually lost the power of the white light just that it went dormant for awhile.
It’s a shame because the WL is a great concept and a cool design. It has a lot of story telling potential so hopefully someone can dig into it more and make things more clear so we can get a better understanding of its abilities, feats, and lore. I feel that its a case of wasted potential. Good video btw.
I have an idea that could make these fantastic. The ring would have a will of its own that is the will of life itself (like the force). It would communicate with Kyle as a construct of Alex, who would sort of be his guide. Kyle would have to first retrieve his white ring by finding the other colored rings that flew off and then the white ring would have a mission for him to find the white power battery. He would only be able to use the white light if given permission by the life entity. So his powers would be kept in check.
That would be cool. It’s close to what we saw in Brightest Day, when Deadman’s ring was just a vessel for the Life Entity that gave him vague directions and sometimes took charge by teleporting him around against his will.
@@MosaicComics exactly and it would put him in conflict even with the GL corps and guardians. Could be a great story that explores life and death and the responsibility of living on past tragedy. I’d love to get barnaby bagenda to do the art.
@@readingbetweentheframes Really fantastic ideas that Kyle really needs right now! I think using the construct of Alex would be a little morbid but I like the idea that the entity chooses the form of Kyle's different loved ones (ie his mom, Jade, the 4 corpsmen) based on the situation like a christmas carol or when kyle went to Mogo in Ion #3.
@@readingbetweentheframes Good point, I still think it would be difficult for Kyle to see her but he's lost so many ppl in his life and it would be nice for him to reconcile his past and move forward
What do you think of the entities? Are you glad they’re gone or do you miss them like I do? I wish they would connect more to the starheart but I thought they were a cool concept thrown away too soon.
The Entities are a great idea. I love basically everything about the Emotional Spectrum, it's super interesting. I understand it's not for everybody, but I hope we can get to a place where it's not all or nothing like it has been. I'm just glad we're exploring the Gold and Ultraviolet Lanterns while the rest of the Spectrum has been on hold.
@@MosaicComics I’m still eh about the ultraviolet corps (I don’t think Snyder put enough thought into it) and the gold lanterns seem like a cool idea but I don’t trust Bendis to pull it off after what he did with teen lantern. I love the structure of the emotional spectrum Johns created but I don’t care for the constant additions like the phantom lantern and ultraviolet corps. The spectrum is already big and complicated enough for new writers to just add stuff without real thought about it. The indigo tribe and agent orange, while great concepts, are already extra when considering the Star sapphires/blue lanterns can be compassionate and yellow lanterns can be selfish and greedy already. Have they ever explained why Hal and Kyle were godlike the first time they were parallax and ion but were less powerful every time afterward? My theory has always been that they originally used the powers of both entities the first time but every time after, it was only the one entity. Like in emerald twilight, parallax not only possessed Hal but also ion, giving Hal the power to cause zero hour. Then after final night and Nero, Kyle gained access to Ion and a portion of parallax (the rest of which would still be in Hal for GL Rebirth). As we saw in Sinestro corps war, the entities can be split into objects.
@@kenlsten4651 They've never explained it. I have my theories, but it's never been officially resolved. That's probably part of the point of keeping the Entities off the table for a few years, they can re-introduce them and simplify it down.
In regards to the life equation, the white ring Serves as a means to access it, provided one has enough experience with it(although being possessed by the entity does allow to “cheat” and make the process much easier)
Thank you for analyzing the White Lanterns, really made me rethink the concept. I like the idea that the white lantern on its own is able to access the different colors of the spectrum (easily or with great difficulty based on their understanding and control of their own emotions like Kyle during Omega Men) but when given access to the White Lantern entity or Life Equation, a WL becomes almost a god similar to when Kyle became Ion for the first time. Also, I hope to see Kyle's White Lantern corps again but I've always assumed their rings disappeared with Kyle's. Honestly, I would love to see a new Kyle series that looks back on his time as a lantern, having him revisit his time with the JLA, GLC (and his own new corps), WLC, and his loved ones. I feel like a lot of ppl don't really know the full extent of his history and it's about time DC reintroduced the great history Kyle has to the rest of the universe.
The members of his New Corps are still out there, too. Sometime after that story, there was a Secret Files & Origins that mentioned what Anya and the others went on to do, so they're still out there for some writer to pick up on.
@@MosaicComics I own and looked thro the secret files and origins but forgot that part. With those characters and the WLC, I would like them to join other corps or hang out with Kyle again (I will never forgot when Perdoo appeared in Uprising). Something I really like about Kyle is his ability to connect with ppl. For me, my favorite era of his was when he was with the new 52 new guardians (although I wish Bedard was more accurate with Fatality's and Kyle's relationship/rivalry) since they had such a fun dynamic and would've worked as a team going forward if they got over their origins (i will never like the 2nd GL:NG and Kyle's relationship with Carol tho).
@@kenlsten4651 Kyle's relationship with Carol was (for me) redeemed by the fact that she admitted that she was trying to make herself love him out of fear that if she wasn't in love, her Sapphire ring would leave her. I like that, it excuses a bad relationship idea while also adding a super interesting layer to Carol's character. Fatalaty, however, is kind of a mess. They basically rebooted her character twice, that I can think of. I won't go further into it, because I'm writing something about it right now.
@@MosaicComics Wasn't that "love for the fear of losing the ring" was what caused Carol not to stay with Hal? I don't remember Kyle and Carol ever actually breaking up and the last time they mentioned the relationship was in Omega men when Kyle was sketching her. I think DC just are ignoring it at this point. After her relationship with Kyle and her crazy story from the 80s, I honestly kinda hate Carol as a character (just such a weak, annoying person IMO). Btw, what do you think of what they've done with Soranik? I kinda like her as a yellow lantern and Kyle's Black cat-style love interest but I think it really breaks her character and her great relationships/position with the GLC. And just for fun, who do you think Kyle should end up with? I prefer Jade but after how she broke up with Kyle, it's hard to put them together again. And I actually really like the two versions of Fatality but they definitely should be separate characters. One the GL hunter and the other a superpowerful Durlan shapeshifter but I would be okay just having the former version.
@@kenlsten4651 It's not why Carol left Hal, it's why she keeps going back to him. She knows they don't work, but part of her wants it to work, and if she can make it work she can keep her super powers. I really like Soranik a lot, and I think they took attention away from her at the worst time. She was already being pushed into the role of her father's replacement, and Kyle's betrayal seemed to be the last straw. I'd absolutely love to see where she goes from there, what she means for the Sinestro Corps long term, and if there's any way for her to go Green again. As far as love interests go, I'd have to say Kyle and Donna were the best fit. Jade and Sora felt like he was marrying into the GL legacy, whereas Donna was just someone he met at work and they hit it off. Though at this point I really think Kyle should just be single, he's kind of the worst when it comes to relationships.
James could really use some of this concepts mixed up with some fourth world concepts to make the grand finale of the second or third part of his universe, would be awsome and highly diferent from what marvel did
Great video that catches us up on what we know so far about something writers haven’t explored much of! To me, it would make sense to link mastery over the emotional spectrum to something like a reality warping power set like Ion’s but with multiversal-level responsibilities. I’d really like to see this continue to be a part of Kyle’s story but I could see them giving it to anyone and it still being great
Does the Gold Lantern now fill the same concept space? Future State: Green Lantern ties the cult in Geoffrey Thorne's run to Orion, where they're using Gold Centurions. Then Stewart has been talking to New Gods' Lonar about streamlining the emotional spectrum, which is exactly what brought about the Gold Lanterns. Superman and the Authority and Infinite Frontier hint at a Crisis-level New Gods conflict to come. It seems to me Gold Lanterns will become the new Source-powered Lanterns. Thoughts?
All of that could be true, but we still don't know anything definitive about where the Gold Lantern power comes from, or what it even is. A lot of people have theories, including me, but as far as I know nothing's been confirmed yet. They just solicited a Justice League vs Legion mini series that stresses the importance of the secrets of the Gold Lantern relating to the Great Darkness, so I'd expect to find answers in that story. We'll just have to wait and see.
Ya I thought White Lanterns had the ability due to Hal Jordan and Mr ManHattan being said stopping him from resurrecting someone. But now I don’t know anymore
09:56 - okay so is that a half naked Huntress with a serious thick bush? Or did they really just do her dirty with that as part of her costume design for this specific series?
Rereading New Guardians and man was Kyle’s arc as the white lantern disappointing. The fact that this was just dismissed and the guardians don’t even address it is ridiculous. Such lazy writing.
i dont read the comics so there's nothing to be confused about, they are ALL the same the rings all do the same sh!t use their powers to create objects, and to say one ring is based on an ideology example (justice/will) like the green lantern is a joke since there's those that betray the green lantern core in the animated movies proving the "ring chooses" the wearer is full of sh!t, its not like the ring senses evil, therefore by that theory all rings are the same
Damn straight but it’s comics & like Stan lee has said it all depends on what the writer wants to do & what story they want to tell which can be irritating at times
Every ring is attached to a certain point of the emotional spectrum and can only detect that point. For the ring, theres no good and evil, this is determined by the authorities that prevail over every corps.
It’s a shame because the WL is a great concept and a cool design. It has a lot of story telling potential so hopefully someone can dig into it more and make things more clear so we can get a better understanding of its abilities, feats, and lore. I feel that its a case of wasted potential. Good video btw.
"At End of Night, At Break of Day''
"All Fear of Death Shall Fade Away"
"My Ring Shines With the Power of Life"
"Evil Shall Know, White Lanterns Light!"
Not bad, not bad at all!
May I use this for a fanfic?
@@zoebrugg7594 Yeah, no problem.
I'm wandering what can beat a white lantern
@@-Terve-1449 maybe nothing in the 3d universe, especially with the equasion
I’d love to see the white lantern Corps come back, sort of like a corps of pure life preserving lanterns seems like it could work. also give Kyle a white ring again too. I like the idea of Kyle being a white lantern, I grew used to that being his color and it suits him fairly well.
The White Lantern concept has enough lingering questions and a large enough dedicated cast that you could easily get a year or two out of it. Maybe someday.
@@MosaicComics I hope they come back to it someday, honestly the fact that rn there’s a white lantern daxamite out there makes me rlly want to see what they’re capable of after seeing a lot of sodam yat with a green ring and eventually ion.
@@MosaicComics In Justice League Vol. 2 #7, the Earth itself becomes a White Lantern!!
@@arpitpatel2781 It does, and I've always wanted them to dig into what that means. Did the planet become sentient like Mogo? Did all that White Lantern energy change anything? We may never know, but it's the perfect setup for hundreds of stories.
@@MosaicComics True
I wish they had used it better. Specifically I like the idea that a wielder had to actually live life to power their ring. I also wish that they would have played around with Kyle's costume. Switching in colors or designs rather then that only being a momentary blip when the rings came together. I kind of wish Kyle would join an earth based team like the Titans and we slowly learn that he never actually lost the power of the white light just that it went dormant for awhile.
I wouldn't say the life equation is gone, Kyle just needs to put his piece back together and the life equation would in turn also be back.
It’s a shame because the WL is a great concept and a cool design. It has a lot of story telling potential so hopefully someone can dig into it more and make things more clear so we can get a better understanding of its abilities, feats, and lore. I feel that its a case of wasted potential.
Good video btw.
I have an idea that could make these fantastic. The ring would have a will of its own that is the will of life itself (like the force). It would communicate with Kyle as a construct of Alex, who would sort of be his guide. Kyle would have to first retrieve his white ring by finding the other colored rings that flew off and then the white ring would have a mission for him to find the white power battery. He would only be able to use the white light if given permission by the life entity. So his powers would be kept in check.
That would be cool. It’s close to what we saw in Brightest Day, when Deadman’s ring was just a vessel for the Life Entity that gave him vague directions and sometimes took charge by teleporting him around against his will.
@@MosaicComics exactly and it would put him in conflict even with the GL corps and guardians. Could be a great story that explores life and death and the responsibility of living on past tragedy. I’d love to get barnaby bagenda to do the art.
@@readingbetweentheframes Really fantastic ideas that Kyle really needs right now! I think using the construct of Alex would be a little morbid but I like the idea that the entity chooses the form of Kyle's different loved ones (ie his mom, Jade, the 4 corpsmen) based on the situation like a christmas carol or when kyle went to Mogo in Ion #3.
@@kenlsten4651 yeah that’s a good idea. Alex wouldn’t be morbid it would be similar to how his ring created her to fight oblivion
@@readingbetweentheframes Good point, I still think it would be difficult for Kyle to see her but he's lost so many ppl in his life and it would be nice for him to reconcile his past and move forward
What do you think of the entities? Are you glad they’re gone or do you miss them like I do? I wish they would connect more to the starheart but I thought they were a cool concept thrown away too soon.
The Entities are a great idea. I love basically everything about the Emotional Spectrum, it's super interesting. I understand it's not for everybody, but I hope we can get to a place where it's not all or nothing like it has been. I'm just glad we're exploring the Gold and Ultraviolet Lanterns while the rest of the Spectrum has been on hold.
@@MosaicComics I’m still eh about the ultraviolet corps (I don’t think Snyder put enough thought into it) and the gold lanterns seem like a cool idea but I don’t trust Bendis to pull it off after what he did with teen lantern. I love the structure of the emotional spectrum Johns created but I don’t care for the constant additions like the phantom lantern and ultraviolet corps. The spectrum is already big and complicated enough for new writers to just add stuff without real thought about it. The indigo tribe and agent orange, while great concepts, are already extra when considering the Star sapphires/blue lanterns can be compassionate and yellow lanterns can be selfish and greedy already.
Have they ever explained why Hal and Kyle were godlike the first time they were parallax and ion but were less powerful every time afterward? My theory has always been that they originally used the powers of both entities the first time but every time after, it was only the one entity. Like in emerald twilight, parallax not only possessed Hal but also ion, giving Hal the power to cause zero hour. Then after final night and Nero, Kyle gained access to Ion and a portion of parallax (the rest of which would still be in Hal for GL Rebirth). As we saw in Sinestro corps war, the entities can be split into objects.
@@kenlsten4651 They've never explained it. I have my theories, but it's never been officially resolved. That's probably part of the point of keeping the Entities off the table for a few years, they can re-introduce them and simplify it down.
Long story short, the white lanter corps have the power to do anything. Anything you imagine, they can do. Damn op. Most op.
In regards to the life equation, the white ring Serves as a means to access it, provided one has enough experience with it(although being possessed by the entity does allow to “cheat” and make the process much easier)
New sub to your channel luv the GL comics. Cant wait for the 2023 GL corps movie.
Thanks! I think we're all ready for another round of live action Lanterns.
Lots to explore here.
Thank you for analyzing the White Lanterns, really made me rethink the concept. I like the idea that the white lantern on its own is able to access the different colors of the spectrum (easily or with great difficulty based on their understanding and control of their own emotions like Kyle during Omega Men) but when given access to the White Lantern entity or Life Equation, a WL becomes almost a god similar to when Kyle became Ion for the first time. Also, I hope to see Kyle's White Lantern corps again but I've always assumed their rings disappeared with Kyle's. Honestly, I would love to see a new Kyle series that looks back on his time as a lantern, having him revisit his time with the JLA, GLC (and his own new corps), WLC, and his loved ones. I feel like a lot of ppl don't really know the full extent of his history and it's about time DC reintroduced the great history Kyle has to the rest of the universe.
The members of his New Corps are still out there, too. Sometime after that story, there was a Secret Files & Origins that mentioned what Anya and the others went on to do, so they're still out there for some writer to pick up on.
@@MosaicComics I own and looked thro the secret files and origins but forgot that part. With those characters and the WLC, I would like them to join other corps or hang out with Kyle again (I will never forgot when Perdoo appeared in Uprising). Something I really like about Kyle is his ability to connect with ppl. For me, my favorite era of his was when he was with the new 52 new guardians (although I wish Bedard was more accurate with Fatality's and Kyle's relationship/rivalry) since they had such a fun dynamic and would've worked as a team going forward if they got over their origins (i will never like the 2nd GL:NG and Kyle's relationship with Carol tho).
@@kenlsten4651 Kyle's relationship with Carol was (for me) redeemed by the fact that she admitted that she was trying to make herself love him out of fear that if she wasn't in love, her Sapphire ring would leave her. I like that, it excuses a bad relationship idea while also adding a super interesting layer to Carol's character. Fatalaty, however, is kind of a mess. They basically rebooted her character twice, that I can think of. I won't go further into it, because I'm writing something about it right now.
@@MosaicComics Wasn't that "love for the fear of losing the ring" was what caused Carol not to stay with Hal? I don't remember Kyle and Carol ever actually breaking up and the last time they mentioned the relationship was in Omega men when Kyle was sketching her. I think DC just are ignoring it at this point. After her relationship with Kyle and her crazy story from the 80s, I honestly kinda hate Carol as a character (just such a weak, annoying person IMO). Btw, what do you think of what they've done with Soranik? I kinda like her as a yellow lantern and Kyle's Black cat-style love interest but I think it really breaks her character and her great relationships/position with the GLC. And just for fun, who do you think Kyle should end up with? I prefer Jade but after how she broke up with Kyle, it's hard to put them together again. And I actually really like the two versions of Fatality but they definitely should be separate characters. One the GL hunter and the other a superpowerful Durlan shapeshifter but I would be okay just having the former version.
@@kenlsten4651 It's not why Carol left Hal, it's why she keeps going back to him. She knows they don't work, but part of her wants it to work, and if she can make it work she can keep her super powers.
I really like Soranik a lot, and I think they took attention away from her at the worst time. She was already being pushed into the role of her father's replacement, and Kyle's betrayal seemed to be the last straw. I'd absolutely love to see where she goes from there, what she means for the Sinestro Corps long term, and if there's any way for her to go Green again.
As far as love interests go, I'd have to say Kyle and Donna were the best fit. Jade and Sora felt like he was marrying into the GL legacy, whereas Donna was just someone he met at work and they hit it off. Though at this point I really think Kyle should just be single, he's kind of the worst when it comes to relationships.
So Kyle is just Space Jesus...
Great video, I wish that they could have made a Grey Lantern, representing Life, with White Lantern being Birth
Bro they did
James could really use some of this concepts mixed up with some fourth world concepts to make the grand finale of the second or third part of his universe, would be awsome and highly diferent from what marvel did
Great video. Lots to think about.
Great video that catches us up on what we know so far about something writers haven’t explored much of!
To me, it would make sense to link mastery over the emotional spectrum to something like a reality warping power set like Ion’s but with multiversal-level responsibilities. I’d really like to see this continue to be a part of Kyle’s story but I could see them giving it to anyone and it still being great
so just mastered emotions is one way to be a white lantern
So basically every white lantern user is boundless gotchu
Nice, more about this pleaseeeee 😍💚❤️🧡💛💙💜🖤🤍💗
Does the Gold Lantern now fill the same concept space? Future State: Green Lantern ties the cult in Geoffrey Thorne's run to Orion, where they're using Gold Centurions. Then Stewart has been talking to New Gods' Lonar about streamlining the emotional spectrum, which is exactly what brought about the Gold Lanterns. Superman and the Authority and Infinite Frontier hint at a Crisis-level New Gods conflict to come. It seems to me Gold Lanterns will become the new Source-powered Lanterns. Thoughts?
All of that could be true, but we still don't know anything definitive about where the Gold Lantern power comes from, or what it even is. A lot of people have theories, including me, but as far as I know nothing's been confirmed yet. They just solicited a Justice League vs Legion mini series that stresses the importance of the secrets of the Gold Lantern relating to the Great Darkness, so I'd expect to find answers in that story. We'll just have to wait and see.
Can we do white ring vs. Phantom ring?
Yes! I sometimes think, what will happen, if Kyle used the Phantom Ring? Since he has mastered all the emotional spectrum
Big fan of white lantern
Ya I thought White Lanterns had the ability due to Hal Jordan and Mr ManHattan being said stopping him from resurrecting someone.
But now I don’t know anymore
09:56 - okay so is that a half naked Huntress with a serious thick bush? Or did they really just do her dirty with that as part of her costume design for this specific series?
Wait but kyle was able to manipulate carol farris and her emotions and even memories and was doing so before he had the equation wasn't he
Rereading New Guardians and man was Kyle’s arc as the white lantern disappointing. The fact that this was just dismissed and the guardians don’t even address it is ridiculous. Such lazy writing.
lanterns are a mess
Thanks
i dont read the comics so there's nothing to be confused about, they are ALL the same
the rings all do the same sh!t use their powers to create objects, and to say one ring is based on an ideology example (justice/will) like the green lantern is a joke since there's those that betray the green lantern core in the animated movies proving the "ring chooses" the wearer is full of sh!t, its not like the ring senses evil, therefore by that theory all rings are the same
Damn straight but it’s comics & like Stan lee has said it all depends on what the writer wants to do & what story they want to tell which can be irritating at times
Every ring is attached to a certain point of the emotional spectrum and can only detect that point. For the ring, theres no good and evil, this is determined by the authorities that prevail over every corps.
Nice video keep it up
Thank you, I will.
Is the Gold Lantern the most powerful?
We don't know. There's a lot about the Gold Lantern that hasn't been revealed yet.
We know that they can use powers of lantern
Yup they don't make any sense
Let's not forget about the black lantern ring the strongest ring
they WOULD ironically make the white lantern ring the most powerful.
privileged comics
Good
Oh no anyway/s
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bad vid
It’s a shame because the WL is a great concept and a cool design. It has a lot of story telling potential so hopefully someone can dig into it more and make things more clear so we can get a better understanding of its abilities, feats, and lore. I feel that its a case of wasted potential.
Good video btw.
Thank you.
i will happen i promise