How Apple JUST Ruined the M4 iPad Pro with iPadOS 18..
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- Apple's iPadOS18 software update is by far the most dissapointing update in years, especially seeing all of the other innovations for iOS 18 and macOS Sequoia. Here are my thoughts..
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@@ahmedalsadi0010other than power consumption, you are absolutely right
Wat you describe is an incredible rich company/management that focuses on getting even much richer instead of making a small step for mankind to user friendly decisions 😉?
Very honest video I agree with you hundred percent. 🙏I bought my iPad pro 14 inch and now I’m starting to regret it because it does the same thing as my M1 but I only bought it because of the Apple Pencil. I hope that Adobe Photoshop and procreate will able to use the squeeze effect of the Apple Pencil
😂 sorry I meant 13 inch iPad Pro not 14 inch
I’m sticking my 12.9 M1 iPad until stops working. No need to ever upgrade it, especially when apple has made it clear that it’s only gonna run a phone OS for its entire existence.
Ditto….considering it does everything, and then some ….for me..wonder if I can just replace the battery? But either way😂
Me too
Same, I’m just not interested into even getting a new ipad anymore especially with those ridiculous prices
me to, I hav my m1 ipad pro 12.9 for about 3 year now.
I held back from upgrading my 2021 12.9 M1 iPad Pro to see what wwdc would bring. Glad I did I was expecting something magical but now no need to upgrade.Yes a better screen thinner form factor but not much else I seriously can’t justify paying all that money for something that my 2021 M1 iPad Pro can do.
Max Tech complaining about getting “click baited” has got to be one of the most ironic and insane statements in the history of the internet
Meh, they're not so bad
It is not click bait. He gave many valid suggestions on what the iPad could be better.
@@uberacxhis videos are good but he has click baited multiple times 💀
LOL that's for sure.
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Apple: Puts M4 in it
Also Apple: Well to use its power, here's a calculator and a weird dynamic island
Also Apple (years ago): Here are iPad versions of Final Cut Pro X and Logic Pro X. And here's an App Store with many apps to choose from, some of which may benefit from an increase in processing power.
The power is welcomed for 3D modeling.
@@manart6506what 3D modeling? sculpting on nomad and basic modeling on valence?
@@hekutokkuRight after the M4 iPad announcement, ZBrush says it’s coming to the iPad. Keep in mind not a single thing Max mentioned as a desired feature have anything to do with what processor is in the iPad. M4 was created for two reasons. One is to drive that OLED panel and two was to triple the speed of the neural engine. Seeing as this was the year of AI, that makes this one of the best iPadOS updates ever.
@@techinrl9869 great i love using gimped versions of davinci resolve, cubase, fl studio, final cut and logic… and the zbrush toolset is only so much better than nomad sculpt. i’ve used the M2 iPad Pro and loved it but always waited for those desktop class apps/ macos and it never came. The New Display looks incredible but what’s the point if i don’t have the applications to use with it? and no i don’t want to plug it into a either another expensive macos device or use it with windows and lose all color accuracy
M4 to browse UA-cam and watching HBO Max what a life lol
People who use iPad for that probably should buy a refurbished basic iPad. Or just a basic iPad. I love iPad and never use it for UA-cam or streaming… though with OLED I will see Netflix more probably… but big oled tv is still better if at home (and most time I am).
@@manart6506that’s iffff a person can afford such an oled tv. The iPad oled is a great alternative and portable. Better than spending 5k+
They clearly market it to artists and musicians so if you don't fall into one of those groups then of course, why would you buy one. It's like buying a guitar when you don't play and saying all it does is act like a decoration.
@@minuszero332 if you think the majority of people who buy this are going to artist and musicians ur off your rocker
Thats you. not everyone. Newsflash, not everyone is you.
Imagine if you could switch to MacOS in docked mode. IPad Pro fixed.
And the stop selling macbooks…
IpadOS takes up enough memory don’t want to add another OS to take up even more space. People already complain there is not enough space on these IPads. Remote option in stage manager would be easier.
I don't want EITHER iPadOS or MacOS.
I want all the MacOS features with a touch interface.
No need for Mac’s then. Not going to happen. Especially at apple lol
They won’t. Steve Jobs wasn’t afraid of cannabalising its own products, but the current Apple is afraid that people don’t buy MacBooks anymore.
Finally iPad can match my 2$ calculator. It's good to see that M4 chip fully utilized.
What’s actually stupid is that the calculator app (just like weather…) is EXACTLY the same as the one on iOS.
The math scratch pad is new (to iPad obviously), but definitely feels like an UPDATE to the calculator app that would have come out now anyways.
WE COUOD HAVE HAD THE SAME CALCULATOR FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. THEY JUST REFUSED.
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Lmao 🤣
But why have to pay for it again. Own it on my Mac . So why should I have to pay for it again on a iPad I just paid $1600 for?
Never forget that Apple is all about selling as many products as possible. Apple would NEVER make an iPad that would replace a Mac. They love it when people buy both machines. Why would they want to change that?
Yes the iPad Pro is for super Apple fans probably much more than pro users. They know it and it works for them. They have created a culture of people that need to have their products. Even when they don’t.
Trying to protect your market share by not being willing to provide what would be even better for your customer has good chances to backfire. Somebody else might enter that market. The qalcomm processors might provide the fusion between laptop and tablet.... for the windows world. Steve Jobs when he introduces the iPhone was ready to compete with its most successful product at that time, the iPod.
It doesn’t really make sense. It’s replacing a MacBook Air which basically is cheaper than an iPad at this point
When the iPad costs more than a MacBook Air, how does that make any sense? What a waste.
@@expatcentralBecause instead of buying both the iPad and the MacBook, you could buy just the iPad, which would still be cheaper than buying both
Unless the iPad becomes the laptop replacement it promised to be since the Jobs days, it will forever be the most expensive youtube machine for 99% of people
I refused to replace my broken MacBook because i literally don’t need it because i have my m1 with Magic Keyboard… idek what people be on about
Ah well most expensive things are made for, sold to and bought by the 1 percent anyway. Stop whinging.
@@southwestkinema9149you dropped this 🤡
I thought the iPad was said to be a NetBook replacement? When did Apple ever say it was supposed to be a MacBook replacement?
@@gregorymoore2877 bet you haven't watched their infamous "what's a computer" ad?
I'm patient, I just wait for forthcoming video : "M4 iPad Pro and iPadOS 18, we were wrong !"
Not this time buddy wwdc for iPad this year stinked so bad 😮💨
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Lmao haha wait for the 1 month update 🤣
I'm glad that I waited the announcement on iOS18 and not upgraded my iPad pro 11 2021 😅
Totally no need
I’m forced to upgrade because old one touching display not working
I bought the M4 iPad prior to WWDC.... HUGE MISTAKE!!!! Wish I could return it, but might have to settle for trading it in for a new iPhone
Same, I have the 11” 2021 iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard & pencil and I thought lets just wait and see what they do with the software before laying down like $1700 for the same set up with the 13” M4 iPad Pro. At this point I’d only upgrade to the M4 iPad Pro if prices dropped a lot. My 2 biggest complaints with my set up are the lack of the function row and small track pad, I can’t justify the money to get those 2 things with the hamstringed iPad OS
@@DifferentAveragejust wait man, be patient, things are coming. ull be glad u have the best chip
Good decision but I wish for amoled screen
I returned my M4 Pro for an Apple Refurb M3 MBA w/ 16/1 TB for the same price I spent on similar specs as the iPad. No brainer after watching WWDC.
U just did the perfect thing my friend. iPad is history now
@@asifhoque7854if I have a 8th gen regular iPad , what do I upgrade to , I would need to use it all day with gaming and Video streaming, so I’m guess processor has to be good but not like graphic designing good , which one should I buy?
@@asifhoque7854 Wouldn't say it's history, but the dream is definitely dead : )
The zoom on Marques’ Face holding his laugh is just absolutely amazing. Gets me every time, this has to become a meme haha
What he's thinking is just...palpable. If it weren't for his fear of Tim Cook's bodyguards assassinating him, he would have outed him right then and there...🤣
@@VincentPolisi 😂😂
I don’t feel sorry for anyone who upgraded their iPads thinking they were gonna get a desktop type OS. That’s why I didn’t even entertain spending $1500 for an M4 iPad.
Me either you should have known better. It’s a tablet nothing more!
that’s why i bought the base ipad 9th gen and will stick to it for years just like my previous iPad easily lasted 8 years
It’s would be weird because for that you buy a MacBook. 💻
I am upgrading iPad Pro M4 because it is what I want.
@@ohsocooll12342 me 2 i have a 10th gen and it does everything i need it to do and i only use it at work just to watch videos and browse
Only good use case - 3d design or art. Everyone else it is a waste and are better off with a different product.
We dont need MacOS on the Ipad - but I do agree that Apple needs to make features like Audio, File management and Stage Manager more robust. With that said, I feel no need to upgrade from my M1 IPad Pro - and if I did, I would probably get the M2 IPad Air….
I’m still on the A chip iPad Pro from 2020, and I’m doing perfectly fine other than battery!
I totally agree. After using 8 years the very first iPad Pro 9,7" I was happy upgrading to the iPad Pro M4 expecting something great was arriving. At least I was expecting an improved Stage Manager but no-only a calculator showed up. I still love the display of the new iPad-but is it worth the money?
iPadOS 18 is the PERFECT advertisement for you to buy either an iPad Air or a MacBook Air or Mac mini. That easy!
I got my perfect iPad Air and can’t wait for iOS 18. The M2 chip will be more than eight until it stops working after MANY years of usage
Exactly! iPad Air is the ideal one to go for. The Pro models are laptop-wannables.
A docked MacOS type UX, when enabled, after connecting to a keyboard and mouse - with a proper cursor, and the ability to run Mac Software. Then when undocked, back to the traditional iPhone/iPadOS UI. This is my dream.
‘Worst dedicated iPadOS update ever’ is an understatement.
Can I run windows 11 with parallels on the 13” M4 iPad Pro? No? Then I’m keeping my 12.9” M1 and probably buy a 14” M3 with the pro chip. Probably need a fan for windows gaming so that means no MacBook Air.
Coming from an iPad that's 7 years old - it was enough. Tough for reviewers, though, Apple only does incremental improvements so your year by year doesn't change radically.
MKBHD said never buy hardware off promises of software or something to that effect. I love my 13” M4 iPad Pro
Same, never expected macOS on iPad
“Never buy a product based on the promise of updates” - MKBHD
He gives some leeway when they exhibit a good track record of keeping their word.
You say you love your 13" M4 iPad Pro... may I ask what do you use it for?
Me too, I love my iPad M4 13” with 2 TB.
@@ivyward1409 brother what do you need 2 TB for?
it's very clear that there isn't much to gain when you move from an M1 iPad Air to an M4 iPad pro...😒
Money for Apple - that’s the difference. The user has no advantage 😂
Don’t buy one. It’s for those that can afford it.
Lot's of processing power? Is that not a gain?
Oled, new Apple Pencil & more power. I am switching.
Who buy an iPad every year. Seems to me way to out of touch people. If someone has an M1 then I doubt they need an upgrade. Those who don’t have or have non M based Mack’s would now be able to get an M2 Air or M4 pro. Good for them sorry but companies are not going to keep putting out old tech just because. I still think iPads are just not going to take the place of laptops. Get a laptop instead if the need is so great.
So what model are you staying with? 13” or 11”
Ipad 2018 11 until it dies 😂.
The screen is already a bit used..^^
using it for music making so screen is on like 4 hours in row without turning it off.
Currently doesn't make sense to me to spend a lot of money for a new one.
I bought and I’m keeping my M4 iPad Pro. I love the OLED and it’s my favorite device to consume content. It’ds not cheap but I just switched it from the 2018 version so it will last me at least that long. I’m not sure if you guys have said it or I’m sure I’ve said it, “buying something for the hope or proimise of what it may be able to do in the future is the worst type of investment desition you can make. Removing Today View was one of it’s biggest mistakes, but again I only use it to mostly consume content. Although I have to admit that since I bought it with the magickeyboard I use it to write much more than I used my 2018 iPad. Over powered? Absolutely but if it fits what you want to do with it and you got the money for it, why not?
We got neither the proper file manager nor the option to install pro apps. Without those two features, iPad Pro is not much more than a severly overpriced media consumption/note taking/sketching device, regardless of the hardware power.
It’s for artists. You are not one. Buy something else.
Does the Files app not exist on iPad?
@@gregorymoore2877 it's not the best imo
The files management was a real let down for me i will have to keep using my macbook aswel i was really hoping they upgrades the files management system as this one is dreadfull at the moment
@@gregorymoore2877yes but its shockingly bad
OK, can you tell us how you keep the magic white keyboard so clean?! please?
Brand new and doesn’t get used from what it sounds like 😅
How about not stopping f'ing video when I just switched skype/zoom from fullscreen?
Isn't it powerful enough to run a virtual machine of MacOS? Parallels or VM ware on iPad please!
From what i know, Apple gave green light for emulators in AppStore. But apps like UTM (VM machine) was stopped from publish, because "PC is not a console" (those are Apple words). Developers of UTM gave up.
They care more about their profits than people who don’t want to lug around another 1-2 kg of redundant weight…oh well, their competitors can serve that market.
Our family M1 and M2 pros just became enough for us for the next 5 years. No upgrading necessary! Thanks Apple!
Actually a testiment to how good their products are. That's the ad
drop the price and spec
I'm still running my 2018 ipad pro because there has not been a reason to upgrade given the software. Battery is showing it's age, will probably grab the next ipad mini that comes out.
A desktop feature that is missing from iOS is undo/redo buttons in the system’s keyboard.
Then what’s the purpose of that ESC button on iPad/new keyboard?
I have an 13inchs M4 with Magic Keyboard but still haven’t found yet where to use that ESC button.
pauses minecraft LMAO
Oh the best comment so far!
You can’t escape iPadOS its over I just lost 3k on this. I bought with hope that it will get better.. please learn from my mistake
@@Wesiboyyy i bought it already so can’t learn anymore from your mistake 😊 Let’s hope by end of the year we will get some kind of MacOs on iPad 😊
@@tonilux9091Putting macOS would be the biggest mistake Apple would ever make. It would kill the iPad because no one would make iPad apps anymore. As a developer, why would you since mouse apps are so much easier to write? This is the reason Apple doesn’t put macOS on it. They’re not dumb enough to kill the iPad.
my issue is launching the m4 in this device - to what purpose? i love my ipad but the os is holding it back - it doesn't need the m4 for the workloads it *can* do, so why did apple pick it?
would have much preferred the m4 launch across the macos running hardware lines
What about multi-user support on an iPad?
Happy with my 2018 1TB iPad Pro 12,9 (with 6 GB of RAM).
Serves well and fortunately - I see no reasons to upgrade.
Yes, I have the iPad Pro 2018. I won’t be upgrading. I ask the question, do I need it. Answer, I don’t and even more so I can still do all I need with the 2018 iPad Pro.
I concur
Or you just can’t afford to upgraded. There is no shame in that. None at all.
No need but it is a swell update. I am doing the upgrade. I was just waiting for oled but got even more.
I did the M4 upgrade.. It's overhyped and not worth it. After that retail-therapy dopamine hit wears off you'll realize it's just the same ol' iPad and has barely improved after all these years... Its ergonomics are also just as bad to look at and use as an iPhone.
I didn’t need to upgrade my 2018 pro either, but I know someone starting school in the Fall & I’m selling it to them. The iPad feels a little snappier but you aren’t missing much. I just like new things & saw an easy way to downgrade from the 12.9” to the 11” pro since I have kids and it’s an easier form factor for me.
Apple will never make the iPad capable enough to really replace the Mac. If they did, they’d kill sales of the Mac. That’s all there is to it.
It’s weird that this super capitalist UA-camrs would even ask for it. I suppose it makes more content. They want a MacBook they can hold in there hand. Ok you’ll get it but it will cost 5000 dollars for the base model. But they don’t care about that at all.
Shareholders would be highly concerned if Apple executives did this, as it would threaten a lucrative product line. Why change something that is working. Please don't take the risk MS did with W8 and their hybrid tablet/desktop that made them irrelevant in the tablet market.
Rubbish. This thing costs double the MacBook Air once you’ve added the peripherals. Many people would still go for that, but some would spend the extra for iPad Pro if it was a viable alternative. So Apple would still make more money. The margin on a $300 keyboard must be huge. We just want then to fix the features they already delivered to make the thing usable as a laptop replacement.
@@ahaimes6320 This is exactly right. Apple COULD do it, but they won’t because “shareholders first.” You can thank Milton Friedman for that.
If you need the capabilities of a Mac, why not just get a Mac?
I bought the iPad Pro M4 hoping for a dual boot announcement at WWDC. Without macOS, the iPad can only be used for drawing and watching videos... BUT it now appears that there is an error in my €2500 iPad that prevents me from playing videos (shocking images with digital noise) and not even with the Apple TV app. After weeks, Apple support still cannot provide a solution and apparently I am not the only one having problems with the new iPad Pro. Are anyone else having problems with this new device?
Hey, in my M1 Ipad Pro has not get IpadOS 18 😢. Does anyone knows when it will get new update
You can really tell the disappointment in Max’s voice. Real love for tech!
So disappointed here with updates on ipados
Let’s hope that someone like VMWARE releases a hypervisor for the iPad on a 3rd party app store in the EU. Then we can have every OS we want on the iPad.
You mean BroadCom, VmWare doesn't exist anymore (BroadCom bought it). BroadCom have higher priorities anyway.
Still looking for a reason to buy an iPad because I'd like to write on it with the pencil, but I need a computer as I am going to start full stack web development bootcamp and my current model is the macbook pro 2015. Dunno what to do but definitely not getting an M3 device. Suggestions?
Best to get a computer that works for full stack first. You don't need a powerful one but 16GB of RAM 100% go for. Try to find a deal eg M1 Refurb or something.
If you want an iPad then go rock bottom price and get a cheap 9th Gen refurb or 2nd hand and pay as little as possible - that way you can afford 2 devices if you need or want them but prioritize a full desktop OS for dev work eg Linux, MacOS, Windows11 not iPadOS. You can remote desktop using iPads or any tablet onto an existing computer but it adds more complications than you need and performance takes a hit too.
Don’t buy an iPad, it’s waste of money. Now I have 4000 USD less for Apple‘s next product.
@commentarytalk1446 thanks so much! I'm on a budget as I can't work and study and it costs a fortune! Thx for keeping me realistic on this.
@@Snirucher if you don't really need it, I wouldn't even suggest an iPad for a job like full stack development. I'd rather save up and update my MacBook, or bump up the specs of my mac like more storage or ram for the price of an iPad. As for writing, I've used a graphic tablet for a year, then switched to an iPad for that nice pencil writing, and now switching back to the graphic tablet because there's not a whole lot of difference once you get used to it, plus it feels pretty productive on a desktop instead.
I don't understand why Apple puts so much power into a tablet that is incapable of using it, they are trying to do marketing to show that they make the most powerful tablet I don't see difference of speed in M1 iPad Pro and M4 iPad Pro maybe 1 sec faster or half a second or even no difference you can't use an ipad to make videos or create music they have fewer possibilities than on mac you can neither put a plug in nor have all the functionality
It’s the same thing with MacBooks and iPhones? Why upgrade the chip year over year with less than 5% improvement all across the board? It’s because there are always those who have held out with upgrading their 5+ year device and now they can finally upgrade. Apple Knows not that many people don’t upgrade year over year. They looking for those long term holders. And about unable to make videos or create videos. There are many people who can prove you wrong about that one.
The M4 is about x1.5 - x2 the performance of the M1. I just picked up an apple refurb 11 inch M1 inch ipad pro for about 40% less than an M4 in the UK. Both run on 8GB of RAM. You’re buying 10 years of software support with an M4 I guess..
Actually, there are applications that use this power, games, rendering apps, among others. I had an M1 iPad and I really notice the difference when it comes to the AAA games that are coming out
Unlike you Apple refuses to stand still. The old Porsche looks like the new Porsche. People still buy them. You can’t afford it. And that is ok. Really it’s ok.
In what way is the iPad "incapable" of using the power of an M4?
I returned my m4 and got a 10th gen iPad. Not worth the money for the same features. They all do the same thing equally bad. Lol
That screen would get me ngl
I don’t believe you
The Air is definitely the best overall value. iPad 9 or 10 is the best price. I use the 9 and there is essentially nothing the 10 does that the 9 doesn’t. But I can’t do anything serious without it overheating, so I can definitely see where certain things would benefit from a better chip.
I guess for some people a car is just a car and getting the cheaper one as long as it works it’s the same (not a car enthusiast but I am an iPad enthusiast).
Will you be returning yours?
Watching it on M4 13 inch. Upgraded from 2020 iPad 11. And I’m loving every second of it. I just need a better files and file management app.
I was thinking about buying an iPad instead of a Macbook Air but I guess they made that decision for me now
That makes sense. These people whine too much for iPad to be a MacBook when they could just buy a MacBook. Or they should put their complaints in asking for a MacBook with touch screens.
I want iPadOS improve but not to be a MacBook. I already prefer iPad over MacBook as it is.
@@manart6506 I think they have a right to whine when they spend hard earned money on smaller than promised increments. And it doesn't take away your satisfaction of iPad's direction.
Thank you so much for this video! I agree with you wholeheartedly, and I like how you went over the top features you would like iPadOS to get, but I would LOVE a DETAILED video on ALL the iPadOS features that you & Vadim would love to see in order for you two to consider iPad Pro a viable MacBook replacement. Essentially what I'm requesting is a detailed video about the iPadOS improvement opportunities that you glanced over in this video.
Can someone explain to me why they want to improve Apple Files? I've been using Apple Files since then and don't see anything wrong with it
no eject option for external ssd, many corrupted ssds because of no eject option, files stopped transferring suddenly when running on background
Considering to sell this thing and get a surface
The new snap dragon x elite surface is looking very tempting.
I definitively would if I were you. On surface, you can do everything, on this iPad, you can do ipad-thingies and brag about its processor.
lol. You won’t though. Because the iPad is the best tablet by a mile
@southwestkinema9149 not really, an iPad air is a better value when looking at it as a tablet. The pro doesn't even you a pro experience and the new surface tablets give you the power and the apps that can actually use it.
Remember back in the days of jail breaks. It's in Apple's DNA I doubt they will change
I love my iPad with the M4, and I love it as a tablet. The past two keyboards give false hope of it becoming a laptop, but for less money you can buy a MacBook Air. When you say people are disappointed, I assume you are speaking of UA-camrs.
I assume they talk about people who don’t like iPad. iPads can improve but they want to buy a touchscreen MacBook… or why they don’t praise the Microsoft Surface, it seems to be what they want.
IMO the iPad is extremely underwhelming. I have the m4 as well, and it's neat but not very useful. It's definitely one of the least versatile/valuable products in Apple's lineup. Aside from the Pencil, there is essentially nothing that the iPad can do that an iPhone can't.
@@DifferentAverage I have my iPad Pro being repaired and I terribly miss my iPad. I have a MacBook and a iPhone but I can’t do my things as comfortable as with my iPad so I cant have my iPad Pro back soon enough so I can stop the suffering.
I watched the video and found it really interesting. I noticed you mentioned a company that invested millions in developing their own AI calculator, which was eventually shut down. Could you please share more details about this project? I’m working on a similar calculator myself and would love to learn more about their experience and challenges. Thanks!
Run MacOS applications on iPad Pro, lets go.
No one likes the Magic Mouse. My girlfriend who has always had Mac’s opted for using a standard mouse over the magic one that matched her iMac. I am uncertain she even knows where she placed the Magic Mouse. It is that bad.
Is it really magic mouse? How magic do you have to be that bad haha. I seen that you even have to charge it upside down. Whatever they were on when designing it I want some!
I’m in the same boat.
I Bought one and my carpel tunnel throbs when I use that thing. I had to buy another “cheaper” mouse but that is significantly better ergonomically than the Magic Mouse.
It’s actually an amazing mouse as far as accuracy and the touch triggers. Especially using a glass mousepad. It literally just floats effortlessly. I think the issue is that some hand sizes, like very small or very large have pain points. But there are some great third party adapters that make them more ergonomic for those people.
I love the Magic Mouse. 🖱️ 😊
I actually like Magic Mouse design. I used one for a while. But I have issues with my hand that make it difficult to use and uncomfortable. Therefore I started using a Logitech MX3 and later a Logitech MX Vertical. Having to turn it over to charge it was never an issue. I just charged it over night when I wasn’t using it anyway.
Just saying, but just because the calculator app is on the iPhone too along with the iPad, isn't a silly thing. If you're in college, most college campuses (if not all) won't allow you to have your phone out during class. This is why having it on both devices isn't a big deal.
Certainly more comfortable in a bigger screen… even drawing can be done on iPhone but a huge difference to do it in a bigger screen.
Math notes is useless for college maths though. It is stuck at middle school level at best.
Just get a good engineering calculator like TI-84, they are not that expensive.
Magic mouse and ergonomics, oxymoron right?
Max my esteem for you keeps rising..Your assessment is accurate.
Question is will Apple listen and adjust before their customers jump ship?
I’m fully immersed including a new M4. However it may be my last?
They listen to their customers. 99% of customers do not want macOS or Mac-like features. You are the niche audience.
@@techinrl9869 Sure they do. Perhaps that ‘s why it only took 14 years to get a calculator and we still don’t have a battery that lasts a week? Or one universal Mac that does it all instead of two over $3000.00 ? However we did a great screen and moveable widgets?
@@williss9995 Nobody actually cared if they ever made one. Apple made fun of themselves at their own event over the calculator, which tells you they are quite aware of what people say. That they are making no moves at all in iPadOS 18 to making the iPad a laptop should say there aren’t many voices who are actually asking for a hybrid iPad. They know how many people are asking for it, and it isn’t many. People on UA-cam live in a bubble and don’t realize their echo chamber is not anywhere near a sizable number.
Does any serious computing device last a week? Apple can’t bend the laws of physics when it comes to lithium ion. You want a computer that lasts a week? Keep it plugged in.
@@techinrl9869 Making assumptions about what ppl are thinking, insulting UA-cam enthusiasts and/or single-handedly deciding what is possible is restricting your thinking? With that sort of thinking we might still be waiting for Joseph Swan and Thomas Edison to invent the light bulb? Enjoy your day!
@@williss9995 Saying you’re in a bubble is insulting? I live in that bubble, too, but I get out and talk with regular people who have no interest in any of this stuff. Plus Apple agrees with me. I don’t control anything they do. I’m just telling you what they said. I’ll ask you again. What serious computing device lasts a week? None. Unless you have some fantastic battery technology you haven’t patented and sold, why would you think it’s even possible to have an iPad last a week? Macs are considered awesome because they can last 12-13 hours in real world use. You think those should last a week, too? EDIT: I also really like Max and Vadim and agree with them most of the time. On the iPad I vehemently disagree with them. But that’s ok. I regularly watch their videos and strongly support them. I wouldn’t dream of insulting them because they’re good guys. What you call restricting, I call a really bad idea because it will end up backfiring in the end, destroying the iPad.
The reality is that Apple sees the iPad not as a computer but just as an accessory for the Mac …which is unfortunate because it’s a great platform, it’s fun to use (when it’s not frustrating) it’s innovative and versatile… add background tasks to the list…it’s absurd that a 3000$ device becomes unusable when exporting output from any app
Nope, for most people, it's a perfectly adequate computer. Just not the luddites.
This video is even an understatement. The issue is more insidious than that. Apple just does not give a F about you, me, us or anyone but themselves. They have billions and have had tons of time on TAP... yet "ipadOS 18" is the result?? Gtfo... they are intentionally nerfing something which already was nerfed and was never even OP
BS. The iPad is and remains the best tablet in the world. What you’re complaining about is that a tablet isn’t a laptop. Shocker, it’s a tablet. It’s not nerfed. It does tablet things quite well and better than anyone else. What you want is touch hostile, so why do you want to ruin the iPad? If hybrids were so good, Surface Pros would dominate the market. Instead, their sales are a teeny tiny part of the tablet market, telling you nobody really wants what you want.
@@techinrl9869apple releases the overpriced keyboard case though. So obviously apple wants people to use an iPad more like a laptop too. It is not supposed to be just a tablet apparently. At the same time apple does nothing to actually make it work better in that way.
@@lello245 I suspect Apple released a keyboard because typing on a flat glass surface sucks. Nobody likes typing on any flat surface with no give. I’ll also point out they sell cases without keyboards, so does that mean they want the iPad to not be a laptop? A keyboard case has no bearing on the iPad being a laptop. Why don’t people believe Apple when they say they have no intention of making it a laptop? They keep saying MacBooks and iPads are complementary devices, not replacements for each other.
I got a M2 iPad Pro recently and am so happy with it, didn’t need to upgrade to an M4 because I had a feeling there wasn’t anything they’d actually use it for
Thanks for the honest review!
To play music in background on iPad or iPhone:
1. Open UA-cam on Safari (not UA-cam app)
2. Play your song, then open another app (the music will stop, it is normal)
3. Swipe the control panel from the top right side corner and hit play button
4. Enjoy the music in background from UA-cam ;)
That’s not what Max is talking about
@@robluce2111 he talked about it on this video.
They only didn’t update the iPad OS because it would cannibalize MacBook sales
When apple released iPad Pro with m4
, I honestly thought they would bring iPad exclusive features but was surprised to see almost nothing
The same thing happened with the M1 iPad. This time I’m not falling into the trap anymore. Keeping my M1.
I think the iPad has always had exclusive features. That’s why they ask for iPads to be more like a Mac instead of asking for MacBooks with touchscreens.
What startup shutdown?
Improved Stage manager, Mac mouse cursor support, improved Mac OS file management, external SSD eject support. That’s about it for me.
All they needed to do this WWDC was add an actual functioning drag and drop iPad OS file system to iPad this year and it might've been enough to save the sales of the new iPad Pro. Yet they couldn't even attempt to do that. It's sad and pathetic at the same time since Apple makes the best tablet on the market yet couldn't care less about it at this point.
That would be nice so disappointing they never did any of that main thing for me would of been upgraded files management and ssd eject
Maybe in 5 years
lol, you are basically asking for MacOS on an iPad, and I honestly don't blame you.
It is such a tease to get this outstanding hardware but be artificially hamstrung by the software.
Lets hack it to switch over to macOS. 😍
There is no correlation between having the best hardware and having to have a desktop OS, especially when the product is designed to be a tablet. I fail to understand this take. Are you saying Apple should use inferior chips in iPad Pros because you deem them too powerful? Does that seem as ludicrous as it sounds?
@@ahaimes6320 First of all, stop putting words in my mouth. I never said Apple should use inferior chips in iPad Pros. You are needlessly jumping to conclusions.
There is a clear divide between "mobile" OSes like iOS and iPadOS and desktop OSes (which for decades have been the standard-bearer for professional workloads), and when you market a tablet as a "PRO" product as in..a tool for getting professional work done, having artificial software limitations like the ones iPadOS is just not acceptable.
@@ahaimes6320I don’t get it either… maybe they should ask this hard for a MacBook to have touch screens and let the iPad be an iPad.
@@RobertDunn310That’s where you’re wrong. Lots of people use iPads for professional purposes. The iPad can do 90% of what a Mac can do. A Mac can do 90% of what an iPad can do. Try doing art on a Mac. It’s quite possible, but it’s harder. Each has its strengths and weaknesses. Macs are not the end-all-be-all of productivity since there are things you cannot do easily on a Mac that are easily done on an iPad, and vice versa. People don’t wonder why Macs can’t always replace iPads but insist iPad do 110% of what Macs do.
you cant even open a txt file on iPad natively. if i try to open a pdf in files it has to first launch a third party app i installed called documents!!
Getting my first iPad later this year. It will never replace my desktop/laptop due to the lack of non Bluetooth peripheral compatibilities and the monthly pay to use software models.
I think the reason is Apple doesn’t want to hurt its MacBook Pro sales?
These UA-camrs want Apple to destroy their Macbook business. Yet they won’t post a single video with copyrighted music on it because they won’t get paid for it. 😂 Hypocrites the lot of them.
@@southwestkinema9149 hurt their macbook business? But... they're the one who sell the iPad
It is fine, apple is destroying their ipad.
why pro? air!
Annoying for the consumer to have to carry 2 devices (laptop & tablet), when one device that can do both can save 1-2 kg in weight.
If Apple won’t do it, competitors can do better and serve the market they won’t.
Lmao I have just bought M4 iPad 😂
same club - welcome
It’s a brilliant machine. Don’t listen to this guy. He’s a jaded tech reviewer. They aren’t impressed by anything these days. You literally have to teleport them across the country to get a meh out of them. They only like google products these days being that they are all Google/youtube employees and all. ❤
@@southwestkinema9149 ofc I won’t return it because some UA-camr said so but actually I have no idea why I bought it. I had shroom trip yesterday and I had this picture that I need it and how it helps organizing my life. Bruh, first thing was downloading Mirage.
Btw any good apps from drawing/learning drawing?
I think you have a device that I would dream of having, and I think that device is a beauty, people ask for MacOs but the Macbook is already its division for it, I understand that Apple's mistake was installing a chip that was not You can take advantage of it, but if you look at it in terms of longevity it is the best you can buy, as I repeat if you need MacOS, buy a Macbook.
@@danielotero1624 I have M1 Pro 32gb 14” which is perfect MacBook. Best laptop I had. I just feel I’m wasting too much time consuming instead of being productive which should be point of those devices. Earn on themselves.
I’m planning on upgrading from my 12.9” M1 iPad Pro but I won’t be fooled into going higher on the RAM this time.
I was honestly expecting them to do something wild between the new iPad & Apple Vision Pro. Since you can’t use the Apple Pencil with the Vision Pro, it would be so wild to use the iPad as the input for that and being able to draw/3d model in a spatial space… or maybe give use tools to do that!
macOS like? It's babyOS where i can't even code my apps as developer.
You are not a developer. No developer would make the mistake of conflating an application with an OS. Xcode or any other development environment is NOT part of any OS.
"Quick Look" with the space bar on "Files" is the function I miss the most. It's incredible that iPad doesn't allow to preview files. And that iPadOs 18 doesn't have the Journal app....Very disappointed about this "upgrade"
Why nobody has been able to run Mac OS on a M Chip iPad?
Same processor same ram and storage fusion-thing. It just needs to get installed.
Why nobody tried it?
the smallest iPadOS update on the biggest iPad update ?!?!
This was the biggest iPadOS update of all time. Did you miss all the enormous quality of life improvements in all Apple devices? The individual OS’es received almost no unique features, but all of them got huge updates. iOS got one unique feature (satellite messaging). MacOS got two (iPhone mirroring and app tiling). IPadOS got three (calculator, handwriting improvement, and SharePlay assist). This year was all about ecosystem and quality of life improvements.
Next video : I was wrong
Tried m2 iPad with external monitor today. Still such a palava. Teams is garbage - sharing screen only on iPad and quality is atrocious. No app I use and would like to use natively on it works same way as on Mac. I need very few as I remote to windows PC but even that simple use case is simply no go. You can use multiple iPads as extra screens, you can use Vision Pro. Wherever you look restrictions, limitations. It’s just a tablet, and I think will be only that until MacBook evolves into a tablet.
The way MKBHD TRAPPED Tim Cook with that Magic Mouse question 😅😅😅
The iPad Pro 13 inch needs a 25% bigger battery so all day charge stays all day.
Who thinks the all ipads will be discontinued before we get a true “pro” iPadOS update… 😑👎🍘
Why the ice spice emoji 😭🙏🏻
Apple is expected to sell 50% more iPad Pros this year than analysts forecast at the start of the year! So, maybe Apple knows what it is doing and explains why random people on YT are not running $3 trillion businesses?
@@ahaimes6320it’s so weird that these Google/youtube employees are trying to tell Apple how to run there business.
Stop eating crayons lol
I got an M4 iPad the weekend before WWDC so I could return it if they didn’t do something amazing. And they didn’t - but in the meantime I found out a lot of things that I like about doing my work on the iPad. It’s not going to replace my actual coding work, but pretty much everything else: email, Slack, code reviews (I prefer iPad to Mac for this), Figma, Linear, notes, etc. I’m going to keep it after all (but return the Apple Pencil).
11:37 what’s that film ?
I own an iPad Pro M4 11”. The device is thinner than my previous M2 and A12Z Pro. It’s less heavy in weight than my previous iPad Pro’s. The M4 chip is insanely powerful (equal to an M3 Pro chip!). It’s great to have finally hardware accelerated ray tracing. And the screen.. my oh my. I’ve seen many devices in real life and owned many, but the Ultra Retina XDR is the best one I’ve ever seen. So, I have a piece of aluminum with glass that outperforms desktops and laptops, even Apple MacBook Pro, but all these new features aren’t utilized. Only a few apps benefit from the extra horsepower. At least, that’s what you would think if you run Geekbench 6 on M4 and M2 iPad Pro. Both CPU and GPU are a lot better than M2 but I had them side by side and there’s literary no difference whatsoever in the real world. I was hoping that iPadOS 18 would turn things around for iPad Pro (not only the M4, but also the older models), but unfortunately, it doesn’t. I don’t want AI powered garbage and a stupid calculator that I will use probably once a year. And about Apple Pencil Pro.. I’ve bought one, of course because Pencil 2 isn’t fricking compatible with iPad Pro M4, and all the new features are gimmicky imho. Barrel Roll: twisting my fingers to a painful position, Haptic Feedback also doesn’t provide a lot of value it’s unnecessary, squeezing the Pencil looks nice when you have it day one, only to left disappointed because the majority of apps don’t support this feature. And now the big on. Find My on Apple Pencil!! Yes!! Well, no. Good luck trying to find that Pencil without the ability to play a sound and the lack of a U1 chip in both the iPad Pro M4 and Apple Pencil Pro. I mean, common Apple! You can do better than this. Way better. The only thing that Apple focus’s on the last decade is to make more profit. For the rest they don’t care. Shame on you, #Apple
iPadOS until you plug into an Apple monitor which gives you full macOS.
MacBook already does that, except that unplugged, you still get MacOS.
bought the 11 in m4 (because my old ipads battery is getting weak) and i am not crazy about the photos app ... they increased the steps for the things that i do ... they also change enough of the interface that makes my have to "rediscover" how to use the ipad ... thanks apple for make more work for me ...
How about getting a tab S9 ultra and calling it a day?
When it runs macOS so it will run professional apps, then you will have something.
It feels like Tim Cook has turned Apple into a fashion brand.
A Wall Street brand.
I couldn't have said it better. As long as the market responds well they will not change their strategy
That old man should retire…
Turned? Always has been, Apple has always worked hard to project an elite, upscale image.
I think Jobs thrived off the excitement Apple products generated, changing the world as he would say. Tim Cook thrives off sales numbers and looking for ways to entice people to make purchases they are not exactly excited about. When thee designers and engineers lost sway to bean counters, that was it.
The new “tab bar” is prepping us for an upcoming notch 😂
For that very reason, I just bought a refurbished M1 iPad Pro 12,9 a month ago for roughly €850 including cellular. I saw the new ipad yesterday in the shop. It looks amazing but in the end, it’s all about optics and design
Click Bait. How did the update ruin the ipad? Because the updates was also made available on the iphone, and the ipad is not special? Like you said for the first 4 minutes of the video, it is a great piece of hardware. So that's what you are paying for. But you expected more, which is fine. But nothing about that "Ruined" the ipad. This feels more like a buyer's remorse because it wasn't special enough for you.
Sometimes taking away something that could’ve been easily implemented on a device more than capable.. can certainly be considered as ruining a product.
He literally named 20+ reasons as to why it’s a disappointment. Apple refuses to give everyone what they want. No one asked for a thinner iPad. We asked for a more capable iPad that can actually replace a MacBook.
@@BlueFL5are you willing to pay 5000 dollars for the base model? Because you are asking Apple to destroy their macbook and Mac business. If so. Apple will give it to you. Like these UA-camr they are capitalists after all.
Clickbait. Yep. The thing is perfect. A beautiful machine. Whingers whine for Google pennies. There are hundreds of them on here now. It’s boringly predictable.
The better hard ware iPads have, the more disappoint I will be, as the price goes way up because of the hardware, but not anything else it can do or can do better.
The entire WWDC was a total disappointment! I watched in disbelief what they were talking about (SMS, Emojis, calculator, games...)! It was clear that Apple was ashamed of all this as they had to fill presentation time with something. Even the legendary jokes of Craig Federighi seemed pathetic and inappropriate. You have nothing to present and you make jokes as if it's the best of times?! I bought an iPad Pro 4M just because I expected they would definitely present suitable software and that we would no longer have an expensive touchscreen laptop running iPhone software on steroids. Mac OS was a total disappointment (nothing new), iOS is an attempt to copy some functions that SAMSUNG has been offering for a decade. After WWDC, I'm seriously considering completely forgetting the old and senile Apple, selling all my devices, and switching to the dynamic Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra and finally not waiting for Apple to copy next year! I think Apple is dead in terms of ideas, they have no innovations that made them famous and only want profit.
Amen!!!
What has happened to your speech cadence?
Couldn’t agree more. I hope they’ll at least fix some of the crashes with external monitors, but I’m not expecting anything. Total bummer, I really wish I could make better use of this beautiful device.
The iPad is an EXTENSION not a REPLACEMENT for a Mac. If you want a Mac, buy a MacBook not an iPad.
No it’s not. It’s an extension of the iPhone.