How to count in Rock and Roll drum intro from Led Zeppelin

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • #shorts #ledzeppelin #rockandroll #johnbonham
    This may be one of those "I was today years old when I learned this the first time" for you, a great piece of drumming that confounds many a bar band. Hopefully this clears it up - here's the right way to hear and play that drum intro from John Bonham.
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  • @williamfotiou7577
    @williamfotiou7577 4 місяці тому +21

    I've been a drummer for 45 years, I just learned something fantastic!

    • @chadgrov
      @chadgrov 2 місяці тому

      Don’t worry look up the Rick Beato interview he does with Danny Carey and Danny said he recently found out about this as well. and he’s one of the best drummers of all time

    • @williamfotiou7577
      @williamfotiou7577 2 місяці тому

      @chadgrov who told you I was worried? Look out for yourself and don't worry about me!

    • @chadgrov
      @chadgrov 2 місяці тому

      @@williamfotiou7577 magatard

  • @kg30004
    @kg30004 5 місяців тому +47

    Oh man never made the Chuck Berry connection, too cool

    • @AC-gw4qu
      @AC-gw4qu 5 місяців тому +2

      It's Keep A Knockin by Little Richard, not Berry.

    • @davidmolteno6982
      @davidmolteno6982 3 місяці тому

      I'd heard the Little Richard connection, but because we all know Bonham tended to play to the guitar part., this guy is definitely on to something here 👍 it fits the Chuck Berry intro perfectly

  • @marions.120
    @marions.120 5 місяців тому +14

    I’ve only heard the Little Richard connection, great knowledge on your part!

  • @user-re9wd3re5o
    @user-re9wd3re5o 5 місяців тому +15

    Best explanation of that intro in the history of ever! Awesome!

  • @coolbreeze9060
    @coolbreeze9060 5 місяців тому +17

    Now this makes sense. You are awesome for showing this and the way you did it was awesome!!!!!

  • @nathancl2k
    @nathancl2k 5 місяців тому +5

    That's a great insight regarding the Chuck Berry intro!

  • @mattjns
    @mattjns 5 місяців тому +9

    Danny Carey from Tool changed this for me forever last week in his Beato interview;
    “And a one •• and a two •• and a one • two • three • four”
    Works perfectly. 😂

  • @grasscutter1919
    @grasscutter1919 2 місяці тому +1

    Best explanation and example I’ve heard yet.

  • @mauricemcguillicutty4746
    @mauricemcguillicutty4746 Місяць тому +1

    I've noticed this for a long time and without the count in like you do, it tricks the ear. Thanks for explaining this!

  • @mr.sister1059
    @mr.sister1059 5 місяців тому +29

    Bonham was not Mimicking Chuck berry on Intro, He Got intro from " Keep a Knockin " from Little Richard, give it a listen.

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  5 місяців тому +5

      Well, sort of. The open hat and snare technique, yes, is a nod to that but not the beat. The beat is different and was what t I was trying to speak to. But you're right, super similar to Keep a knockin

    • @carlosalbertogomez1391
      @carlosalbertogomez1391 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@12footchainNO SIR¡¡AND AGAIN NOOOOOO¡¡is the same drum intro¡¡¡are you deaf bro???

    • @guyincognito1423
      @guyincognito1423 4 місяці тому +2

      Bingo!

    • @williamfotiou7577
      @williamfotiou7577 3 місяці тому +2

      @12footchain good ears bud! You nailed it, AGAIN, YOU NAILED IT! 🥁🥁🥁

    • @td-12kx53
      @td-12kx53 3 місяці тому +1

      That's exactly right and he also comes in on the and of three, as opposed to coming in on the one.

  • @codewarrior5229
    @codewarrior5229 10 днів тому

    Hands down best explanation of this intro that I've ever heard. Top notch!💯

  • @keithdonohue4631
    @keithdonohue4631 5 місяців тому +4

    Amazing! Best guitar channel ever!

  • @tomy.1846
    @tomy.1846 14 днів тому

    Awesome! I've heard the Little Richard example, but your Chuck Berry riff sits over the drum intro AND gives it a melody to follow! Helps much more than just the Little Richard drum intro! Thank you!

  • @squeedum4893
    @squeedum4893 5 місяців тому +1

    This is the best breakdown I've seen so far. I've always put the "ONE" on the first snare hit and it always threw me off. It's actually "And-Four-And" I think.

  • @chiptriplett655
    @chiptriplett655 5 місяців тому +3

    Wow! Very cool man! Love your videos and tutorials

  • @billyrobbins8153
    @billyrobbins8153 14 днів тому

    You just made that intro so damn easy!!! Thanks!!

  • @Ronnie_Roy
    @Ronnie_Roy 5 місяців тому +1

    man I have loved Bonham all my life and never made that connection. this fills my heart with joy man ✌️❤️🇬🇧

  • @daveEmartin
    @daveEmartin 5 місяців тому +2

    Yeah! This has always baffled me. Thanks.

  • @brianmay3669
    @brianmay3669 2 місяці тому

    I love a great upbeat probably more than a great downbeat, and it’s simply magic hearing John and the Lads dancing in the space between both of them like this. If that tune is a 3/2 signature, even more magical!

  • @houmm08
    @houmm08 5 місяців тому +4

    THANK YOU!!!!

  • @laserspin
    @laserspin 3 місяці тому

    Awesome breakdown of a classic tune. Now I know when to start playing the opening riff👍🏼

  • @chriswright2250
    @chriswright2250 5 місяців тому +1

    Cool, never knew this ❤.

  • @oicsaywhat
    @oicsaywhat 3 місяці тому

    Never thought of that now it makes total sense

  • @johnjacoLMSW
    @johnjacoLMSW 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for how the 8 count works with this!!!

  • @michaelstevens972
    @michaelstevens972 3 місяці тому

    Are you kidding me?! I love how expained that so well

  • @avantegarde365
    @avantegarde365 5 місяців тому +1

    yes actually I did that before for a gig and it was a tricky pick-up, particularly when the drummer isnt quite up to Bonham standards. other Bonham's are D'yer Maker and When the Levee Breaks

  • @ShapochkinKirill
    @ShapochkinKirill 5 місяців тому

    This hasn't been a mystery for a looooooong time but I have to say that NEVER it has been explained as well in such a short clip. Plus all the cultural/history added. Good job!

  • @mrsimonalewis
    @mrsimonalewis 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank you!

  • @user-ob3to5tk3p
    @user-ob3to5tk3p 4 місяці тому

    Correct. Permanently changed how i hear that song. Freaking cool thanks!!

  • @Richard-wu5ce
    @Richard-wu5ce 2 місяці тому

    That was very cool
    Thanks !

  • @hazor777
    @hazor777 5 місяців тому

    Nice tidbit of info - putting it with Chuck Berry it made a lot of sense
    All those guys , everybody, loved Chuck Berry

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall 3 місяці тому

    Love your work

  • @wheatproject3967
    @wheatproject3967 2 місяці тому

    The band arguments that were started just on this song intro alone! Lol.... Jethro Tull's Teacher intro was another for us back in the day when we were young and naive

  • @reghunt2487
    @reghunt2487 4 місяці тому

    something I've been meaning to look into, thanks! and the Check Berry thing, cool!

  • @Whatdisaypt1and2
    @Whatdisaypt1and2 5 місяців тому

    Never hit subscribe so fast. That was A1 content. Keep it up.

  • @douglaschristine8387
    @douglaschristine8387 5 місяців тому

    Your the best and so was John and company.

  • @markpr73
    @markpr73 3 місяці тому

    I’ve always loved tripping up potential drummers for bands I’ve been in by testing them to see how they count this intro. God, there’s a lot of guys out there that simply do not have a clue. Once you hear the real count-in it’s easy to remember it.

  • @markybgoode
    @markybgoode 5 місяців тому

    Brilliant! Thanx!

  • @pauldbrown1010
    @pauldbrown1010 5 місяців тому

    Genius connection!! Love it!

  • @ontheone9559
    @ontheone9559 5 місяців тому

    Oh man how cool is that!

  • @kerryfromaj9032
    @kerryfromaj9032 5 місяців тому

    Wild…
    Thanks !

  • @robertkees6048
    @robertkees6048 5 місяців тому

    Yes that a was a very nice number from the band, and now we present in living color, the Lawrence Welk singers in a wonderful rendition of Dipsy Doodle in the Noodle. Now take it away.

  • @friedrich1957
    @friedrich1957 5 місяців тому +1

    Yes......thank you!!!

  • @CutiePie-hh3gg
    @CutiePie-hh3gg 5 місяців тому +1

    Only proves how influential Chuck Berry was

  • @scotttyson7970
    @scotttyson7970 4 місяці тому

    Wow , thanks man

  • @stratman9449
    @stratman9449 5 місяців тому

    very good.....and i love the song...always have...since it first came out....yep

  • @josephgenovese1146
    @josephgenovese1146 5 місяців тому

    That was cool 😎

  • @DouglasMcLaughlin-kq7hk
    @DouglasMcLaughlin-kq7hk 2 місяці тому

    Tune was generated from Little Richard's You Hear Me Knocking jam

  • @martydibergi5228
    @martydibergi5228 4 місяці тому

    yes yes and yes Awesome❤

  • @tedmartinez5457
    @tedmartinez5457 5 місяців тому

    Awesome! I'm subscribing now!!!

  • @puffnstufflovelove6550
    @puffnstufflovelove6550 2 місяці тому

    My head just exploded!

  • @Tewall839
    @Tewall839 5 місяців тому +2

    Nice

  • @shanebrbich5698
    @shanebrbich5698 5 місяців тому +1

    Haha... You watched the Danny Carey interview with Rick Beato
    👍🇦🇺

  • @BrazilMJ
    @BrazilMJ 4 місяці тому

    Crazy fact… they were jamming when he did that and Page riffed off that drumming… they felt they had something… 15 minutes.. yes 15 minutes later the band wrote Rock & Roll. The whole fourth album was done in 15 days

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  4 місяці тому

      I love that. Why doesn't that happen anymore

    • @daveormand4977
      @daveormand4977 3 місяці тому

      Those are usually the best recordings

  • @rolandjgutierrez7737
    @rolandjgutierrez7737 5 місяців тому

    You nailed it...RocknRollflat5

  • @ferdinandorocco8168
    @ferdinandorocco8168 4 місяці тому

    Zep the best!!

  • @odgeUK
    @odgeUK 5 місяців тому +2

    I still don't get it. When you said "And 1" you seemed to drag the time on that. The Chuck Berry thing helps though!!

  • @jagoodman88
    @jagoodman88 5 місяців тому +5

    Jeff Buckley figured that out first

    • @curragh4635
      @curragh4635 5 місяців тому

      Explain please

    • @carlosalbertogomez1391
      @carlosalbertogomez1391 5 місяців тому

      ​@@curragh4635one day jeff buckley got into tool's rehearsal room and told them.danny carey told this to rick beato some time ago.its on video

  • @stevenholquin2127
    @stevenholquin2127 27 днів тому

    This is a Good Point
    Once You Add a Click
    It Becomes Sterile
    ….Once You Understand
    The Time The Tempo and Then
    You Make It Linear With a
    Flow So It’s Sounds Natural
    This is The Difference Between Perfect Time
    and Flow Linear Time
    Then It Becomes Natural Time
    If This Makes Any Sense

  • @daijones101
    @daijones101 3 місяці тому

    John Bonham was mimicking😮 the start of Little Richard you keep a knocking

  • @TheRealX-Man
    @TheRealX-Man 5 місяців тому

    I don't know why but I've always thought this could be a beatles song, I imagine Paul singing it, similar to helter-skelter

  • @Rectitude4U
    @Rectitude4U 4 місяці тому

    Subscribed.

  • @Nobody_Important_Yea
    @Nobody_Important_Yea 5 місяців тому +1

    Wow

  • @MrYatesj1
    @MrYatesj1 5 місяців тому

    Nice!

  • @aaronreeves8376
    @aaronreeves8376 4 місяці тому

    It’s originally based on Little Richard’s Keep a Knocking drum intro

    • @vincentzito3933
      @vincentzito3933 3 місяці тому

      Exactly, I don't know where this Chuck Berry crap came from... But I guess if you want to know about drum lines, just ask the guitarist.😂😂😂😂

  • @kurtniederstadt97
    @kurtniederstadt97 5 місяців тому

    Dude! Dats da money brau! Yes! Thanks for the info

  • @telster51
    @telster51 18 днів тому

    Thx

  • @philipStClair-mm4jq
    @philipStClair-mm4jq 3 місяці тому

    That was cool and kinda mind blowing!

  • @danielhoward8354
    @danielhoward8354 3 місяці тому

    Brainiac right there.

  • @silat13
    @silat13 5 місяців тому

    Hmmmm. I heard that "Bonham had based the "Rock and Roll" intro on the phrasing of Little Richard's "Keep a Knockin' ", which was recorded in 1957 with Charles Connor on drums (Connor was famous for his "Choo Choo Train" beat, which consisted of successive 8th notes with a loud backbeat)".
    What do you think?.

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  5 місяців тому +1

      The sound and open hat approach yes 100%, but the beat phrase itself is different and lines up with the chuck berry style guitar riff. The keep a knockin phrase is a little different

  • @tommyabernathy9880
    @tommyabernathy9880 4 місяці тому

    Ha! Very cool!!!

  • @erichkaanikin3555
    @erichkaanikin3555 5 місяців тому +1

    My bands (per drummers) always worked it after 8 drum beats as he says, then guitar starts at 1&2&3. I feel misled to count as if it’s 8 beats per measure as he seems to indicate. Perhaps I’m confused 🤔

  • @johnnyboo8243
    @johnnyboo8243 3 місяці тому

    awesome

  • @Pimp-Master
    @Pimp-Master 3 місяці тому

    Actually it's a little Richard drummer, Mr guitar player. Thanks for showing up will call you when we need you

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  3 місяці тому

      Not quite. Yeah he borrowed the open hat sound from keep a knockin, but not the beat. My point was about the timing and beat.

  • @victorakbar8153
    @victorakbar8153 5 місяців тому

    Yeay, thanks.

  • @Peter-sk5vg
    @Peter-sk5vg 2 місяці тому

    Cute!! I knew it wasn't rocket science

  • @jcivantos
    @jcivantos 2 місяці тому

    The problem with this explanation is that he is mimicking the drum intro from Little Richard’s Keep on Knocking. So I guess wouldn’t that guy who played for LR be the one who mimicked Chuck Berry?

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 місяці тому +1

      Good question but in my opinion no. The sound of the drum riff yes, the open hat and snare sound yes. But the actual beat/cadence that the CB riff is, is not how the LR one goes. Hopefully that made sense, difficult to explain over comments text

  • @littlecrow6484
    @littlecrow6484 5 місяців тому

    I wish somebody would figure out the count-in for the Beatles' Drive My Car.

  • @stuartromig9576
    @stuartromig9576 2 місяці тому

    Great explanation...but it was fron Little Richard...😊😊😊

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  2 місяці тому

      Not that simple though, right? Sound yes, beat no

  • @JosephBrazzo-cw5fw
    @JosephBrazzo-cw5fw 3 місяці тому

    Nice like it

  • @kevinvanrensburg2468
    @kevinvanrensburg2468 3 місяці тому

    Oh, very interesting

  • @benjaminbaird9303
    @benjaminbaird9303 2 місяці тому

    Sweet

  • @408lurks
    @408lurks 5 місяців тому

    Well done

  • @user-hg6ns7zs8w
    @user-hg6ns7zs8w Місяць тому

    Thought it was a copy of / based on Little Richard's Keep A Knocking.

  • @encycooper
    @encycooper 5 місяців тому

    Good one

  • @loghog4392
    @loghog4392 Місяць тому

    One can learn a lot from Chuck Barry.

  • @jimbo7445
    @jimbo7445 2 місяці тому

    cool make sense

  • @herbiesnerd
    @herbiesnerd 5 місяців тому

    I thought it was from a little richard song. Never heard it being from Chuck Berry until now.

  • @averyadrian1534
    @averyadrian1534 3 місяці тому

    Cool

  • @richinoable
    @richinoable 5 місяців тому

    Far out. Never heard that one before

  • @averyadrian1534
    @averyadrian1534 3 місяці тому

    That guitar tone also sound Chuck Berry-ish

  • @renoraider9817
    @renoraider9817 8 днів тому

    Very cool!

  • @geofftayloruk
    @geofftayloruk 4 місяці тому

    Someone else who saw the Dan Carey interview with Rick Beato... 😅

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  4 місяці тому

      Hey - content policeman - yeah I saw it - and yeah it's been knowledge out there for many years prior, not everything on Beato is the first original thought, and I'm not claiming it is for me either. Just an interesting topic that appeals to many and many hadn't seen it yet. So yeah nothing for me to apologize for. But by all means keep trying to dunk on people if it makes you feel better.

  • @user-vn2vp8xl2k
    @user-vn2vp8xl2k 5 місяців тому

    cool

  • @davitofarito
    @davitofarito 5 місяців тому +1

    Too bad Jimmy Page didn't sit Phil Collins down and explain this before their set at Live Aid!

    • @12footchain
      @12footchain  5 місяців тому +1

      True! Lol!

    • @michaelcelani8325
      @michaelcelani8325 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@12footchain...😮❤ Very Clever
      discovery...
      What is 12 foot chain a reference to ?
      A. DNA sequence. ?
      Funny...my first Rock Concert ever
      was in July 1969, Asbury Park
      Convention Center, Led Zepplin...
      Joe Cocker was opening act whom
      I had never heard of.
      Jim page had the violin bow and
      was wearing a red Cowboy hat.
      Thanks for you're perceptive
      observation. Mike. Celani

  • @jackmakackov7077
    @jackmakackov7077 3 місяці тому +1

    its on the E of 3 not the and of 2

  • @CarlosCostaX
    @CarlosCostaX 2 місяці тому

    You dont need a metronome, you just need to listen to the drummer.

  • @outoaguitar3320
    @outoaguitar3320 2 місяці тому

    Give me a break when they were fooling around with it Jimmy asked him what he was doing it was the beginning to a little Richard song you keep on knocking

  • @PeteEllson5656
    @PeteEllson5656 5 місяців тому

    Damn!

  • @jukesjointOG
    @jukesjointOG 3 дні тому

    Very cool, but don’t count “5,6,7,8!!” unless you are Bob Fosse.