Ranking the Albums: Joe Perry Project
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- Join Pete Pardo as he ranks the albums of the Joe Perry Project. #joeperryproject #joeperry
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1. Let the Music Do the Talking (absolutely his best)
2. I've Got the Rock & Rolls Again
3. Once A Rocker Always a Rocker.
That's it...
Ralph Mormon was a great singer, I love that first JPP album. Never matched the debut. Ralph Mormon laid down some killer vocals on the debut
1. Let The Music Do The Talkin’
2. I’ve Got the RnR’s Again
3. Once A Rocker…
I heard Stephen Tyler say in 1982 Joe Perry already had the Joe Perry Project before he left Aerosmith , and that was a contention. Steven said Joe was not focused on Aerosmith. This interview is on UA-cam.
Yes !!!! Still have the 1st JPP album on vinyl. Probably my favorite but I do like the 2nd album.
A great show idea you could do, maybe with Martin Popoff on your Friday at the Funhouse show, is a show about awesome guitarists who sometimes, or currently, want to sing lead vocals and they are not good singers. You could include Joe Perry and guys like Ace Frehley, Uli Roth, and Yngwie Malmsteen, among others.
Loved Night In The Ruts, so the first 2 JPP albums are a must for me. Great raw jams on these. Plenty of slide, a bit of funk and quite heavy too! Yes, the can't sing-don't care vocals from Joe aren't great but that's the attitude coming through! Didn't like the 3rd album but 4 Guns West is a great track. Gotta love Joe!
Same ranking for me. I rarely listen to any of these, to be honest, but if I do it's almost always the first one. Thanks for the video, Pete!
Just FYI Charlie Farren was also the lead singer/songwriter for 80s band Farrenheit, had a couple of minor hits…but were way more popular in the Boston area
Farrenheit was a pretty good band with some catchy tunes. Their s/t 1987 album is worth a listen, sort of a mix between power pop/80's rock/new wave. "New Days" in particular is pretty cool. They have a couple more albums that I don't have. Charlie Farren also has some solo albums. I have to say I like Farrenheit more than the 2nd JP Project album...
1) Let the Music Do the Talking
2) I’ve Got the Rock & Rolls Again
3) Once a Rocker, Always a Rocker
I've Got The Rock 'N' Rolls Again is the best Aerosmith record they never recorded. There's more badassery on that record than all Aerosmith albums after 1987 combined.
My ranking is
3. Let The Music Do The Talking
2. Once A Rocker As Always A Rocker
1. I've Got The Rock 'N' Rolls Again
Everyone should read Cowboy Mach Bell's book Once A Rocker. It's basically his diary from his time in the Project and discusses the touring, the songs, the band members etc. It's terrific.
Agreed ,I´ve got the rock´n´rolls again is the winner.
Cowboy Mach Bell wrote a great book called Once A Rocker. He kept a diary from the tour, don’t have to love the album to enjoy the book
Listened to the audio book. What a great book. Every Rock n Roll fan should read/listen to the book.
@@williamtallman9816 He did a couple of great interviews on the Rock and Roll Geek show podcast promoting the book. Definitely worth checking out
@@michaelstreet9717 that's how I found out about the book. Stay Frosty.
Hell yeah!!! Kindred spirit
Let the MUSIC 🎵: do the talking
I'd rank the three albums in the order they came out. My first club show was the "Let The Music Do The Talking" tour. It was the late show and Joe was completely drunk but still played like a demon. Ralph Mormon was great on vocals, and he was great in 1981 too while fronting Savoy Brown (they opened for Priest on the Point of Entry tour in California). Saw the third incarnation with Mach Bell in 1982 as a club in Palo Alto, CA - big disappointment. Really didn't care for Bell and I think Pete hit the nail on the head with the Vince Neil comparison. Was good that Aerosmith got back together and Steven & Joe got clean. Joe Perry is an American Treasure! Cheers!!
I never had Once a Rocker but I have the others. Joe is one of my guitar hero's. I COMPLETELY agree with you on his vocals. I never understood why he felt he had to sing. He sucks. Not even gonna sugar coat it. TECHNICALLY he sang lead on Combination, which is one of my favorite songs off Rocks. But I think Jack Douglass knew it was a good song so he mixed Steven louder than Joe's vocal which saved the track. I mean you have Steven Tyler in your band, what made you think you could do it better than him?
Love your reviews as always Pete
6:12 Mach Bell was in the Boston band Thundertrain who penned a tune called Hot For Teacher years before Van Halen. My band played a reunion gig with them years ago. Unnatural Axe and Cheetah Chrome were also on the bill if I recall
I’ll be a Contrarian and state that my favorite JPP album was always I’ve Got The RnR’s Again. Especially side one. My band used to play a few off that album back then. I love Buzz Buzz! 😆
1. Let the Music Do the Talking
First was the best. Let the music do the talking
I never listened to the second album before. I just did. The vocal performance on South Station Blues makes Ace Frehley sound like Freddie Mercury. Whoa. Why did anyone tell Joe he could sing?
First JPP album is a solid 10, saw that lineup a couple of times on the 1980 tour. It's a shame it didn't work out with Ralph Mormon, from what I've heard he had a bad drinking problem. Previously he was the vocalist on the BUX "We Came To Play" album with future Angel members Punky Meadows and Mickie Jones (LP produced by Jack Douglas). Pretty good straight up 70's hard rock!
Vince is the best ! Love Sea of Tranquility, we all have different ears I guess.
I must be the only person on earth who actually likes Joe's singing.
I love Joe's singing. I wish he did more.
I have no problems with his singing.
I don’t mind it, just in doses. Then again, similarly, there’s something I like about Ace Frehleys singing even though many don’t think he’s a good singer.
That first record is the best Aerosmith album they never did...saw him 2x.. once as an opener for Nazareth at MLG in 81 and 2 years later in a small bar here in London Ontario
First album is a good record that could have been very good if Morman had sung on all the tracks (he left to join a new Savoy Brown). The other two albums can be forgotten.
Listen to The Rock from I've got the rock and roll's again was played regularly on webn Cincinnati's best rock station back in the early eighties
I used to be a big Aerosmith fan until they became a bubblegum pop band. I was thoroughly disappointed with all 3 JPP albums. In fact I only liked 2 songs(South Station Blues & Let The Music Do The Talking)off the 3 albums. I was hoping for more albums with Jimmy Crespo & Rick Dufay after the great Rock In A Hard Place album. If Brad Whitford looked like Joe Perry he would've been the star cuz he's a way better guitarist.
The first one was easily the best out of the 3. Although not even that one really lights my fire.
I was a HUGE Aerosmith fan during their initial heyday, absolutely my favorite band, and Joe Perry really was the guy who spurred me to get serious about learning guitar. Like, I wanted to BE Joe Perry, I'd put on my guitar and practice scowling with my hair hanging in my face in the mirror. I bought all three of these when the were released, but honestly Let The Music Do The Talking is the only one that's memorable to me. Like literally, I can only vaguely remember any of the songs from the other two. The songwriting just wasn't that great on those ones. LTMDTT is killer though, great songs and phenomenal playing. As to the other two, let's face it, Joe was not in very good shape at that point. I was so happy that they reunited and made a comeback and nobody died and they got healthy and earned back the boatload of money they'd snorted, smoked and shot previously. They've remained a great band since then, but still, nothing quite compares to those first six incredible albums (yes, even including Night in the Ruts).
Great video! Could you do a ranking of Don Felder's solo work?
Will check out your favourite, was never a big Aerosmith fan. Will there be a King Diamond solo album ranking?
Didn't David Hull cover for Tom Hamilton for a few dates?
Yes David bull substitute Tom Hamilton on some dates during 2006, 2009, and 2013 tour Tom Hamilton at that time was batting cancer, thank god he beat that and still with us and rocking today
David Hull
Check out Hull (aka David Heit) on White Chocolate's s/t 1973 album, it's a good record. Also the stuff with Farrenheit & on Arthur Lee's solo album Vindicator...I'd pay money for the tapes of that live 1970 Hendrix tribute show he did with Buddy Miles, Johnny Winter, Billy Cox, Mitch Mitchell and Noel Redding! He's got a solo album called Soul In Motion that Perry guests on but haven't heard it. Same with his stint in Dirty Angles (2 albums in the 70's)...Related (via Charlie Karp) blues/rock band Slo Leak with Danny Kortchmar (3 albums)
The version of the song Let The Music Do The Talking, by the Joe Perry Project is outstanding. A fresh blast from Joe after leaving the band, a great album opener. The Aerosmith version, on Done With Mirrors, sounds weak, Tyler’s new lyrics are terrible, and the performance seams subdued. That first JPP album is solid, good songs performances and production, still play it to this day. The other two, have all three on vinyl when they came out, agree with Pete, meah...
I have all 3 on vinyl and like the rock blues of them.
You should review the Renegade demos (available on youtube), which are amazing. Probably the best Aerosmith-related group, which included Crespo, Kramer, and Hamilton.
With Bob Mayo from Frampton's early solo albums...I've heard some of these tunes, not crazy about Marge Raymond's vocals (they're just OK-she's from the band Kicks). I believe Crespo wrote all of the material & I think I read they had a record deal. Tyler sank the project by coming back to Aerosmith to finish recording Rock In A Hard Place...Totally unrelated but the band The Kicks out of Nashville put out a pretty good power pop record called The Rise Of King Richie in 2009 & the followup Tonight Changes Everything 3 years later. They do a lot of live covers, one of them coincidentally being classic Aerosmith tunes
@@wolf1977 Thanks I'll check them out!
1. I've Got the Rock & Rolls Again
2. Let the Music Do the Talking
3. Once a Rocker, Always a Rocker
I think Once a rocker is clearly the weakest album and i disagree about the song Soldier of fortune, that song a is a great rocker.
Enjoyed the first one other 2 too hit and miss sorry😢
Bought the first two albums, like you, and actually saw The Joe Perry Project live three times in that short time span, and then the reunion show with Steven and the Boys at The Manning Bowl in Lynn, Mass, summer of 1985. Always liked Joe Perry. Aerosmith was my very first concert, three weeks after "Toys In The Attic" came out, and I was hooked. Caught them ten times more, until 2001, and was happy each time, except the two shows without Mr. Perry, one with Jimmy Crespo and then with both Crespo and Rick Dufay. Um.... Anyway, I agree with your rankings.
Would have been good if he was still in Aerosmith and used some of those songs on night in the ruts. Especially as there is 3 covers which weakens that album.
I would love to hear who would make the best guest vocalist to accompany the band? Steve Perry, Meatloaf, David Coverdale? What would fit best, I will check out these records and see what i come up with, your recommendations welcome - SOT crew,
Derek St Holmes - Aerosmith alumni have alrady worked with him & he's a really top-level talent (IMO)
Kid out of Yonkers would be outstanding with Joe!😏 Ralph was great and so was Charlie. I get what he was trying to accomplish with Mach but it just didn't translate. Would have like to know what he and Zander would have came up with.
I bought Let the music do the talking on 8 track the summer of 1980. I was 18 & Played the heck out of it. My fav tune on it was the mist is rising & his vocals really didn't bother me. Eventually I aquired a recorded cassette of JPP's sophomore album & I never had once a rocker always... only heard it on internet once. I found Whitford St Holmes to be very disappointing & I never understood why that album wasn't better with the 2 greats(Brad & Derek). I really expected much better, but it sucked. The latest version of Joe Perry Project that I've watched some UA-cam videos that also includes Brad Whitford & Gary Cherone is great IMO. They do some obscure aerosmith album cuts too. That really shows what an underrated vocalits Gary is. I mean how many people can come as close to reaching Sammy & Steven's high notes like Gary did on stage with VH & JPP?! I saw Extreme in the early 90s open for ZZ Top, Gary's a great singer & best one Joe's had in the Project IMO. Perhaps he wouldn't have returned to aerosmith had he gotten a vocalist as good as Gary in the early 80s. I never could dig aerosmith's version of let the music do the talkin after playin the heck out of the Joe Perry Project 8 track. It's been 43 yrs since... So maybe I should find me a cd of it.
Nice ranking!! The first album is a stunner (saw them on this tour opening for Cheap Trick). The other two albums are embarrassing. As far as Joe and Aces singing it’s pretty obvious that both are slightly tone deaf and should stay away from the microphone and stick to their awesome command of the guitar. Cheers
What do you think? How many of your massive CD collection would you keep if you only could have the ones you really like and love? Good show!
Speaking for myself I actually went through that exercise went I went all mp3/no more physical media a few years back. I stripped out all of the music I liked from my cd's & LP's, then digitized everything (and from that point on only bought mp3 files via streaming downloads). I'd say I kept maybe 25%-35% of the music I owned at that point but that's just a guess, that's from a few thousand cd's & maybe 1,500 LP's. Of course everyone's different...
That’s funny. I only like the songs where Joe Perry sings.. plus in concert he did a pretty good Heartbreak Hotel. The other songs are good but I prefer Joe.
Ralph Mormon ended up in Savoy Brown, he’s on rock n roll warriors
I think that he also briefly sang for Starcastle
Shame you didn’t include the couple of solo albums too. Rock n rolls again is my favourite
Yes,Rock n Rolls again is great, my fav too.
@@jimekberg very surprised that Pete disliked it so much. Love east Coast west coast and buzz buzz. JP looks the part but is a pretty average player. Brad whitford was better
What about his solo albums also, have guitat will travel isn't bad.
First of all I'm a big fan of Aerosmith & Joe Perry as a guitarist, so I wanted to like these records. But you could definitely be excused for thinking there was only one album by this "band" (really Joe Perry plus...). Actually 3 total albums, all in the early 80's, plus the 2005 album called Joe Perry which I'll also count (although technically it's without the "Project" part). So Perry leaves the band in '79 & signs on with Columbia for Let The Music Do The Talking. This is the best-selling/most successful record (and many critics didn't hate it) but still pretty dismal compared to Aerosmith's popularity. Perry talking about the album: "Let the Music Do the Talking" - the title track - spoke for itself. It was just how I was feeling. I didn’t need to talk. Didn’t need to explain how much I wanted to be on my own timetable, free to work at my own speed, which was pretty fast. "Conflict of Interest" was inspired by my feelings about the shady side of the record business. I was going straight back to my roots, as demonstrated by the R&B-heavy "Rockin’ Train." Songs like "Life at a Glance" and "Ready on the Firing Line" were constructed around riffs that had been bouncing around my brain for months".
So overall to me these Perry "solo" outings just fall flat, I keep comparing them to Aerosmith's albums (fairly or not) & as such they just don't hold up. Perry's guitar almost saves things but the vocals, plus lots of mediocre tunes, sink the ship. The best album (by far - to me anyway) is the first. A much better solo project is Whitford/St.Holmes (with the great Derek St. Holmes on board) but unfortunately only one original album plus a Reunion record in 2016...So here goes:
1. Let The Music Do The Talking - 5 good tracks. maybe on par with a lesser (middle-of-the discog) Aerosmith album
2. Joe Perry (2005) - The newest is a JP solo album has Perry singing leads - not great. "Pray For Me", "Dying to Be Free" & "Ten Years" are pretty good & "Twilight" is not bad. The instrumental "Mercy" is the best track. The cover of The Doors' "Crystal Ship" is just bland
3. I've Got The Rock N' Rolls Again - really bland songs & mediocre vocals on Rock N' Rolls, even JP's guitars can't elevate this. "East Coast, West Coast" is good, "South Station Blues" is OK - that's it...
4. Once A Rocker, Always A Rocker - the best tune is a T Rex Cover "Bang A Gong", but with sub-par vocals (also for what it's worth a cheesy album cover). Seems like the song ideas had run dry...
This is one of those acts where the record company thought that we needed a "greatest hits" package after 3 total albums, and then stuck 20 of the 28 original tracks on it to make up The Best Of. Then the following year another comp called The Essential - also 20 tracks but not exactly the same (that one might be a boot). OK...The JP Project is apparently still kickin' with tours happening this year (with Gary Cherone on board) - they just played CT/NY/MA less than 2 months ago
Female vocals on joe perry songs like stevie nicks or joan jett should have been an idea....
Agree Pete Joe can't sing which is a shame
Just like other guitar greats like Trower, Steve Howe...
This guy know nothing. Charlie farren made that album and to this day remains one of the best voice ever to come out of Boston. East coast west coast, long with listen to the rock we’re balloon songs. All three albums remain my favorites of all time. Each album is unique in their own way. Was not a big fan of Ralph Mormon, but the guitar on the first album Carrie’s it. By the time the third album came around, joe already knew that Aerosmith was going to be back in his fortune. Even though Mach bell was on the third album, by the time they toured for this album brad Whitfield and Joey Kramer were in the mix
I am not a fan of Perry…..I don’t like his albums!