I Spent 4-Months Testing Vertical Ergonomic Mice - Here's My Top 5

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2024

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  • @Boubson
    @Boubson 5 місяців тому +180

    this dog is so focused on his master's speech that it looks like an old physics teacher

    • @Louie.Oxford
      @Louie.Oxford 5 місяців тому +8

      Ikr. Its all i can see 😆

    • @nicomirinda
      @nicomirinda 27 днів тому

      haha! what's the breed of this dog? I want one :)

    • @J.Marl.
      @J.Marl. 22 дні тому

      I was waiting for him to pet it at least once and interact with it... I felt sorry for it as it was left alone during the video.

  • @BeachFrontSolutions
    @BeachFrontSolutions 6 місяців тому +7

    I understand the subject of the video was specific to vertical mice; however, if you have wrist and shoulder repetitive stress injuries I’d recommend switching from a mouse where you move your arm to ‘trackball’ mouse - MX Ergo by Logitech is the one I’ve found work the best for me but as with switching to a ergonomic keyboard with thumb clusters (kinesis advantage 360 or a custom Crone are the ones I always recommend) the key comes down to optimizing for thumb-use over wrist / arm movement! Also typically as your thumbs are meant for a larger portion of fine-motor movements it’s less strain pretty much right away.
    Overall great video and review process and if you are a knowledge worker that spends the bulk of your time on a computer it is totally worth investing in an ergonomic setup for yourself. The time and energy you put in today to reducing as much of the repetitive stress on your body will pay for itself very quickly in my experience.

  • @SchmaltzyCraftsy
    @SchmaltzyCraftsy 6 місяців тому +12

    I'm a huge vertical mouse fan, nice to see someone actually review them

  • @gstrdms
    @gstrdms 2 місяці тому +15

    Came for the mouse, stayed for the dog.

  • @zchu4479
    @zchu4479 6 місяців тому +11

    Something not many people might consider, but I HIGHLY recommend a Wacom tablet in replacement of a mouse. I purchased one of the about 15 years go to use for digital art and and realized it did not aggravate my hand and wrist pain when I used it exclusively in place of a mouse. You hold it just like a pen.

  • @guntherabrahamowicz4659
    @guntherabrahamowicz4659 4 місяці тому +8

    The big issue with the expensive Logitech models is their click switches are cheap shit. Their warranty is for one year, which you should get out of it, but starting somewhere around month 14 -16 you're likely to have your "left click" switch start double-clutching and messing things up. It's a well-documented problem with them and you can try to replace the switch, but it's a lot of little parts moving and de-soldering and soldering is also involved. The switch is around $10, but a good soldering station is around the price of a new mouse.

  • @TimOGhoul
    @TimOGhoul 6 місяців тому +9

    Holy timely video, Aaron. I’ve been in the market for one of these.

    • @ozthe.g
      @ozthe.g 5 місяців тому

      Only guy I trust with the reviews

  • @joyceing3739
    @joyceing3739 6 місяців тому +6

    Absolutely loved this video and wish you came out sooner. I had to do a lot of research on my own 4 months ago when I needed to replace my mouse, and came to the same top choice with the Logitech vertical. I love the dang thing and it can take a drop or in my case several off my desk. Keep up the great content!

  • @JonJarin
    @JonJarin 6 місяців тому +6

    Another entertaining and informative video thank you, for me I recommend the logitech mx ergo advanced wireless trackball mouse, has a bit of a learning curve but solved my wrist pain problem :)

    • @JimPudar
      @JimPudar 6 місяців тому

      Over time these might cause pain in the joint that connects your thumb to your hand. If that happens, you might want to look at a large trackball like the CST L-Trac

  • @HelloFellowYoutubers
    @HelloFellowYoutubers 6 місяців тому +18

    Avoid white Logitech products as they seem to discolor and wear off quickly. Mouse discolored within days (chemical reaction, not dirt). Multiple keyboard keys wore off within 18 months. No such issues with the black models, which are great.

    • @cookiebinary
      @cookiebinary 4 місяці тому +2

      Interestingly, I've had quite the opposite experience. My last mouse was a Logitech Lift and I can't get enough of it. I even have one Logitech mouse bought in 2012 and it still looks more or less the same (and works the same).
      In my opinion, Logitech's higher-end mice are some of the best quality mice on the market.
      For keyboards, I prefer brands like Epomaker, Kiiboom, Keychron. Logitech doesn't exactly make the highest quality keyboards.
      I still have the Z5500 speakers from Logitech, bought sometime in 2008. I still actively use them and they work almost like new. (Only the display backlighting is not as strong as the new ones).
      Which Logitech mouse do you have a problem with?

  • @soyyo5260
    @soyyo5260 6 місяців тому +1

    I bought the Lift and MX a while back after breaking a ligament on my wrist and spending months in pain using a trackpad. Ended keeping the Lift, which I still used today. The MX was more comfortable, but its size is more difficult to take it outside. Furthermore, for the price difference, I decided to keep the Lift. The wrist healed after surgery, however, I still use the Lift, and now prefer it over any other regular mouse or trackpad.

  • @yangjiao7583
    @yangjiao7583 5 місяців тому +2

    thanks. it is clear, concise and fun to watch.

  • @NocFree
    @NocFree 5 місяців тому +5

    Who else is hoping Aaron takes on the challenge of finding the best keyboards for wrist pain next? ⌨🙌⌨

  • @scruffex3736
    @scruffex3736 Місяць тому

    by far the highest quality review on this topic i could find. thank you sir

  • @NaturesRealm-ys3im
    @NaturesRealm-ys3im 5 місяців тому +6

    There is no such word as "mices".

    • @sdalt001
      @sdalt001 4 місяці тому +2

      Correct. It's meeces.

  • @carminafloresca176
    @carminafloresca176 9 днів тому

    thank you. very informative and detailed

  • @ValhallaGoddess
    @ValhallaGoddess 3 місяці тому

    Thankyou so much for this, i love my gaming mouse so much so it was duanting to go ergo and didnt know where to star but my wrist has been hurting sooooo much T_T i had to take the leap and this review helped so much

  • @wigue2619
    @wigue2619 9 днів тому

    I have been using the vertical MX for over a year and I started to have pain in my thumbs. Using the left click and right click actualy push the mouse if you don't use your thumb to stabilize it and after a few months, my thumb pain appeared. I think this is also due to the fact that I have a method of claw grip to use my mouse.

  • @upclosemedia
    @upclosemedia 3 місяці тому

    You should test the Contour Unimouse. It's really good, besides the fact that you can't map a middle click to the middle button. It scores high in all of the areas you mentioned as your preferences.
    OH, one last thing... The mouse can be both traditional and verticle, so you can adjust the angle to your desired sweet spot. You can also change the thumb grip. How you missed this mouse is amazing.

  • @tynebaker
    @tynebaker 6 місяців тому

    Been using the MX Vertical and the matching keyboard for a few years. Love it! I really like the one button tap to tab between desktop, laptop, computer. It was so worth it. Maybe I need a lift though for travel? 🤔

  • @vjekomiloradovic6773
    @vjekomiloradovic6773 Місяць тому

    watched your video with the hope that there is something else but Logi MX vertical. I have that one since 2-3 years and it looks absolutely gross. The soft touch material is literally melting and disintegrating. I've had Logitech mice for decades and some I used for 5-6 years, never did I see poor quality as on this MX vertical in terms of durability of materials used. I came across many users on reddit who are experiencing same exact problem. I'm hoping they update this design soon. Thanks for the video.

  • @archabaddon
    @archabaddon 2 місяці тому

    Going to try the ProtoArc EM11 to help with my DQS; used the link in your video. Thanks for the recommendation.
    Ironically the DQS is partly because I use an old Logitech LX3 corded optical mouse that is ambidextrous but, because of that, has terrible ergonomics that cause one's thumb to pinch more. Because of that and price point, I couldn't consider giving Logitech another sale.

  • @mahadevovnl
    @mahadevovnl 6 місяців тому +91

    Why would I get something FOR wrist pain? I'd prefer something AGAINST wrist pain please.

    • @thisburns
      @thisburns 6 місяців тому +18

      😂 you know what he means

    • @Hhhh22222-w
      @Hhhh22222-w 5 місяців тому +1

      Fool of April man

    • @HypocritesExposd
      @HypocritesExposd 5 місяців тому +5

      Yes! Why would I want a medicine for allergies? I don’t like allergies so I’m patiently waiting for a medicine against allergies to hit the market.

    • @stateportSound_wav
      @stateportSound_wav 4 місяці тому

      Thanks Dad! 🤦 😂

    • @HumanBean520
      @HumanBean520 2 місяці тому

      🥁

  • @TaskSwitcherify
    @TaskSwitcherify 5 місяців тому +1

    Why do you need to pick up your mouse? It's designed for sliding, not lift off. If it's sensitive and accurate enough, just position it to where the cursor needs to go.

  • @Drepiedre
    @Drepiedre 9 днів тому

    Your dog and my dog could be brother and sister! So sweet those schnausers!

  • @trivard
    @trivard 6 місяців тому

    I use both your number 1 and number 2 pick. Prefer number one because of hand size, it’s a big difference. And it made a difference in my comfort levels within a week!

  • @ChromeJob
    @ChromeJob 5 місяців тому

    "Mices," love it.
    Woot has a couple of Logitech's on sale this month, I'm feeling tempted because I have their other devices that all work with their Options+ software.

  • @Excusername
    @Excusername 6 місяців тому

    I liked the Logitech Mx Vertical but the lacking support for Logi Bolt made me switch to the Logitech Lift.
    It’s pretty small but I got used to it and I’m really happy with it.
    For Gaming a different Mouse and you’re all set.

  • @laupakhin
    @laupakhin 6 місяців тому +1

    I've considered getting a vertical mouse for a while now but I think I would miss the scroll wheels from my MX Master too much.

  • @robertomaximilianosilveira8768

    Wow how much do you spend to do this tests I Love this video 😊 I am a mouse pain suffer user for long time ago

  • @slickbackVeeds
    @slickbackVeeds 6 місяців тому

    You should have checked out the UGreen Vertical Mouse. AA batteries, dongle or bluetooth, supports Mac and Windows with toggle. 57 degree angle, good grip. All for just $22.

  • @jejinlee5026
    @jejinlee5026 2 місяці тому +1

    I've used two Logitech MX vertical and were great for my larger hand. but they both ended up with a same problem. Left click had become unstable often one click became double-click and dragging was interrupted. I googled it and it seems like it's a known issue on micro switch. It seems like it's happening quite often.

    • @iphoneopengles
      @iphoneopengles Місяць тому

      same. did you find a good alternate mouse?

  • @alexisbanks3729
    @alexisbanks3729 5 місяців тому

    The Logitech Lift is my Goldilocks. Quiet, fast scroller, and fits my hand PERFECTLY. I appreciate the slightly smaller design.

  • @LuciaGTAVI665
    @LuciaGTAVI665 5 місяців тому

    Kinda offtopic but what would you recommend for a very thin case for Iphone SE? Doesn't matter what material or color it is

  • @samking618
    @samking618 Місяць тому

    Im making up my mind for the ProtoArc, is it any good for bigger hands like the MX Vertical?

  • @OnlineProgramsHippocrates
    @OnlineProgramsHippocrates 5 днів тому

    If one is wireless sensitive, can you use the usb cord all the time and turn off the bluetooth?

  • @thisburns
    @thisburns 6 місяців тому

    I love these kinds of mice. I rarely use a pc but when I do my wrist always hurts after like 2 minutes unless I’m using a vertical mouse

  • @Durlanov
    @Durlanov 3 місяці тому

    Probably you had to include top end Delux M618XSD vertiacal mouse instead of lower class Delux you presented. This is very good mouse that i use for almost two years, I'd say its better than the logitech ones. It have oled screen with data for battery, connection and DPI selected status, best feature for me is having horizontal thumb wheel, DPI up to 4000, wired/wireless + bluetooth connections, led lights ....

  • @_wizen
    @_wizen 5 місяців тому

    I'm on my 3rd MX Vertical. The buttons wear out way too fast, as does the scroll wheel. Of course, it is still the best option, else I wouldn't keep buying it, just it lacks in certain obvious areas.

  • @WishIKnewMyName
    @WishIKnewMyName 6 місяців тому

    I’d also mention that the MX vertical doesn’t have silent clicks like the lift does. I have the lift but it’s a bit small. I want to get the MX but I hate the loud clicks.

  • @stotka
    @stotka 4 місяці тому

    To reduce wrist pain I would suggest trying out a drawing tablet instead of a mouse. Wacom and Huion as an example.

  • @u_ok
    @u_ok 10 днів тому

    oh yeah that popular lego-hand mouse, really fire from the lego-people's perspective

  • @BobTheVeteran
    @BobTheVeteran 6 місяців тому

    #1 has a speed scroll mode too! I think the top button switches the modes.

  • @BramHarmsen
    @BramHarmsen 25 днів тому

    Those rubbery coatings on a lot of mouse are actually a huge disadvantage. Every product I've owned with that type of coating will eventually wear off and become ugly.

  • @th0mahawk
    @th0mahawk 4 місяці тому

    Really wish that productivity mice had onboard memory to save mouse button mapping and macros. I really hate that so many mice require software to unlock all the capabilities of the mouse, especially when I'm not able to download software on my work computer.

  • @cookiebinary
    @cookiebinary 4 місяці тому

    What are you talking about? I have a Kensington vertical mouse and a Logitech Lift. And both thumb buttons (back, forward) on my macbook air 2020 work out-of-the-box.

  • @d3s1r3dpk
    @d3s1r3dpk Місяць тому

    Best for dealing with wrist pain? Assumed to my smaller current mouse. I have big hands. Considering the logitech mx vertical advanced
    Any other advice you can give? Thanks for the video

  • @HiFiInsider
    @HiFiInsider 6 місяців тому +1

    it’s mouse or mouses mot nice or mices. the ladder is in reference to the rodent.

  • @sloanNYC
    @sloanNYC 18 днів тому

    I have the MX Vertical and the software on Mac OS at least, is annoying as hell. Difficult to clean it now is constantly double clicking and my Logitech keyboard is having issues too, bought at the same time... Just not impressed with Logitech anymore, sadly on a Mac, there just aren't many options...

  • @readitdesign4867
    @readitdesign4867 5 місяців тому

    For Evoluent 4 macOS users. Don't waste your time trying. Just buy Steer Mouse software. It will be handy for other mouses you use. The change in experience is tremendous. Sadly, the best design has the worst materials possible. But the key is the angle and lightness of the mouse. If you are still frustrated by it, just buy Kensington Expert Trackball and call it a day:)

  • @NiceButBites
    @NiceButBites 24 дні тому

    1. Monty is the perfect name for your dog, especially in his little outfit,
    2. I bought one of these mice to test,

  • @swervo825
    @swervo825 6 місяців тому

    Can you make magsafe car mounts WITHOUT CHARGING please! Love the videos literally just bought items you recommend!

  • @ngtom605
    @ngtom605 Місяць тому

    nice video thanks!!

  • @Inpreesme
    @Inpreesme 6 місяців тому +3

    I don’t need a mouse……..I’m just here for Monty 👍

  • @sourhop
    @sourhop 16 днів тому

    do you know what the difference is between mx vertical and mx vertical advanced besides the first one being 20 dollars more lol

  • @Chrisosaurusrex
    @Chrisosaurusrex 5 місяців тому

    I’ve been using a Logitech lift on my Mac’s without any Logitech software and the side (forward/back) buttons work correctly.

  • @jemmabrown1988
    @jemmabrown1988 6 місяців тому

    Please could you consider testing trackball mice - no one is doing them as a legally blind person I use a trackball because otherwise I need a huge mouse surface to navigate with magnification. I’m shopping for a new one.

  • @BootesVoidPointer
    @BootesVoidPointer 5 місяців тому

    I want to use the MX vertical on Mac, but I cannot get over the fact that Logi Options+ requires the INPUT MONITORING permission. Third party software being able to monitor all keystrokes is a major security leak. Furthermore, the source code is proprietary and Logitech gives very little information on why input monitoring is necessary. I just cannot use this software.

  • @MumrikDK
    @MumrikDK 2 місяці тому

    Who knew button support was so dire on Mac...

  • @AboOmar_ICT.Charts
    @AboOmar_ICT.Charts 3 місяці тому

    Hi, I`m suffering of hand pain ( rest, clicking finger), I have try alot of mouse products
    the last one was MAX Virtical from Logitech
    this mouse is very good for the rest but its buttons have high resistance during clicking which cuased a harmful pain for my figner
    advice e please,
    Which one is virtical with low resistance clicking buttons ?
    thanks in advanve Sir

  • @francoisdubois80
    @francoisdubois80 6 місяців тому +1

    Nice video and testing methodology, but trackball master race.

  • @BobBilly506
    @BobBilly506 4 місяці тому

    what was the degrees on the ProtoArc EM11 Wireless Ergonomic Mouse?

  • @lastxp
    @lastxp 4 місяці тому

    I have a Thrustmaster joystick and I wish it was a mouse cause it's so comfortable to hold.

  • @dianachiu9316
    @dianachiu9316 5 місяців тому

    SO THOROUGH! Thanks!!

  • @iamsandwich
    @iamsandwich 4 місяці тому

    Have been using the Vertical MX Advanced for a few years now, removes strain from wrist completely, but in my case lead to tension on the ulnar nerve in some way. Now I have something like a Cubital tunnel syndrome, where my pinky and ring finger both go numb and the whole hand hurts in the morning and through the day. Have to do specific ulnar nerve exercises to make it better. The mouse might be too big for me in the end :( also the rubber coating wears off, especially on the buttons in kind of a nasty blotchy way.

    • @Gary320
      @Gary320 Місяць тому

      Did you end up buying a new mouse that helps? Im having the same issue right now.

    • @iamsandwich
      @iamsandwich Місяць тому

      @@Gary320 I ended up going to the doctor and drinking neural meds and sleeping in two braces. I put away the vertical mouse entirely, and instead bought a cheapest pen mouse that works from tripe a’s, a small cheap wired trackball for the thumb and also use a costly big trackball but im sure you dont need to overpay because ffs the buttons on it suck so bad and the only thing good on it is the ball itself. I use all the tools in a combo, where as soon as I feel my hand getting tired, I switch to something different. Yes the brain was having a hard time first, but its amazing how easy it is to get precise with cheap tools. I can play minecraft, typeset, use SolidWorks, Illustrator Photoshop and Indesign. I constantly position the hand differently and sometimes move the task to the left hand if needed entirely. So far it has been much better!

  • @efthimiossakarellos7150
    @efthimiossakarellos7150 4 місяці тому

    Hey buddy thanks for the review but mice is already plural, so "mices" is redundant

  • @turn-me-later
    @turn-me-later 4 місяці тому

    So many of them are not fully supported on MacOS, what the f

  • @75gmag
    @75gmag 6 місяців тому

    I tried those types of mice and it didn’t work for me. I ended up with using a trackball mouse and it’s been great!

  • @2slowpoke929
    @2slowpoke929 6 місяців тому

    Oh huh you guys doing an ergonomic mouse review in the same time my wrist have been getting tired of using a normal gamer mouse

  • @bvanfossen01
    @bvanfossen01 4 місяці тому

    Hello. Great Review. Did you notice that some caused you to place weight on your pinky? If so. Which ones didn't?
    I've purchased an Anker and it's great. My all day wrist pain has vanished immediately. Although now I have pain because I'm wresting weight on my pinky.
    Tyia!

  • @Kafka.Hibino8
    @Kafka.Hibino8 4 місяці тому

    I have the exact mouse! I love it.

  • @zweiwing4435
    @zweiwing4435 4 місяці тому

    Well, does have any controller mouse for XR as portable as take with more during all my travel. I am the person who moving a lot.

  • @claudioalejandro9731
    @claudioalejandro9731 6 місяців тому

    next time please also say the polling rate, which is way more important than the DPI of the mouse

  • @SuperSpeed52
    @SuperSpeed52 3 місяці тому

    good one brother, time to hang up the tryhard pro gamer gear with lots of strain issues and enjoy the retiree ergonomic gear

  • @noterious
    @noterious 3 місяці тому

    The dog is cute!

  • @ouzzz_6480
    @ouzzz_6480 6 місяців тому

    but, can you play fps with them

  • @Jramos516
    @Jramos516 3 місяці тому

    Since you did a phenomenal job at recommending an ergonomic mouse, can we get a video for the top ergonomic keyboards? Trying to perfect the telework home office 😅😅 Thanks!!

  • @shrey522
    @shrey522 2 місяці тому

    The dog is a piad actor 😅

  • @ajtuckvr
    @ajtuckvr 6 місяців тому

    I appreciate you very much

  • @Nick-jf7ku
    @Nick-jf7ku Місяць тому +1

    The dog is a lie lol

  • @fredsalfa
    @fredsalfa 5 місяців тому

    Your dog is cute. He’s looking at you as if to say “What are you talking about?”

  • @firestorm117
    @firestorm117 21 день тому

    "Like most mice these buttons don't work in macOS unless you get some software"
    Here that Mac useres? IT DOESN'T WORK!
    ..... I miss when Windows didn't become big brother...

  • @matthewlittler8387
    @matthewlittler8387 Місяць тому

    Oven mitt? Are you sure it's shaped like an oven mitt? I always thought it looks more like a sex toy.

  • @corywithaynoe
    @corywithaynoe 6 місяців тому

    I’m more of a trackball mouse fan myself. Just me?🤷‍♂️😬

  • @ScottBaker1
    @ScottBaker1 6 місяців тому +1

    left handed mouse user....cries

    • @leeschumacher8285
      @leeschumacher8285 5 місяців тому +2

      Evoluent has a left handed model

    • @johndumpling1896
      @johndumpling1896 5 місяців тому +1

      the Lift is available for left handed users, not the Vertical though

  • @markkoops2611
    @markkoops2611 5 місяців тому

    Use a trackball. Logitech trackman eliminated my chronic wrist pain

  • @voltvolt-t6g
    @voltvolt-t6g 6 місяців тому

    I used to watch your videos in the past and took a break. I’ve noticed that something has changed in your format. Many of your videos feel like an infomercial. I can’t put my finger on it. Maybe you are talking too fast and cutting to different cameras so quickly. I feel rushed and don’t like the sensation too much. Not sure if others feel this way

    • @garrickmusic
      @garrickmusic 6 місяців тому

      Put the video at 0.75x speed, he only sounds slightly drunk. You might like it better. Too bad 0.85x speed isn't an option.

  • @rewanji
    @rewanji 6 місяців тому

    I have the Logitech vertical mouse for years and, trust me, better invest on the real thing. Don’t save on ergonomics.

  • @mariosalamanca7743
    @mariosalamanca7743 3 місяці тому

    He meant micen

  • @The_Penguin_City
    @The_Penguin_City 16 днів тому

    Pobre perro, como mira a su dueño.😢

  • @piskipa
    @piskipa Місяць тому

    Higher dpi means absolutely nothing.

  • @VioletVlata
    @VioletVlata Місяць тому

    Imagine give away all of them o(〃^▽^〃)o

  • @ewijntuin
    @ewijntuin 6 місяців тому

    MICE NOT MICES just trolling 😂

  • @citytrees1752
    @citytrees1752 4 місяці тому

    thumbs down for repeatedly saying 'mices'. Mice is the plural of mouse. Stop being annoying.

  • @mHm2000zt
    @mHm2000zt 3 місяці тому

    Umm ..your dog stares doesn't make me comfortable :|

  • @st33ldi9ital
    @st33ldi9ital 6 місяців тому

    Trackball.

  • @davidluong5651
    @davidluong5651 6 місяців тому

    Hey Aaron, been watching u for years. Why haven’t you done a live chat or Q&A for such a long time…..seems like you don’t care about us any longer and just want clicks. 😔

  • @hohma
    @hohma Місяць тому

    You are speaking too fast. I had to pause and go back a few times to catch the meaning of what you were saying. No need to edit the pauses out - they help the brain comprehend the received information.

    • @bk808-xk3yc
      @bk808-xk3yc Місяць тому

      There's an option to adjust the speed on all UA-cam videos. You can find it by going to the top right side of the video under the settings.

  • @ImpatientEntrepreneur
    @ImpatientEntrepreneur Місяць тому +8

    Thanks for this video! It saved me literal HOURS scrolling Amazon reviews and Monty is just an absolute delight, bless him!

  • @tomzeru
    @tomzeru 5 місяців тому +4

    3:22 great vidéo but, picking mouse up from table to readjust can occurs but it's a bad habits, you are supposed to glide the mouse lol