The video is not clear on what this does or doesn't do, can it voice call, and watch youtube? If not, you should make that very clear and the video is misleading.
If disposable vape manufacturers started including these LoRa chips in those new full color display vapes and gaming vapes we would have a robust national and possibly international wireless mesh network within days.
I'm not really sure vapers are willing to shoulder the overhead this device will cost, plus the battery upkeep etc. Most of them will immediately flock towards the next cheaper thing. I wish people were as considerate as you think, but no. Not in a thousand years.
I am 100% making that, and I'm adding speech to text; also text to speech for when people respond. Should I integrate noise cancellation into the vape unit? There's a sentence you don't see every day lol but it's an opportunity for RISCV to create a tiny market slice, too small to even be niche but enough for a single dev to make some $$$ without paying asinine royalties to capital/investment management companies, which own all the really good commercial tools at this point.
@dieselphiend my point is, for such a business critical service, you would want to expect some degree of central authority to impose a set of rules and, specially, a "good enough" availability service levels. Hence, there would need to exist, at least, an enterprise grade mesh (which private users may end up prefering as well, due to better QoS) Eventually, at least 1 private organization would be laying down these setups over countries, in order to ensure service coverage. Et voilà! You have ISPs again. There are existing, and actually old, technologies to provide cheap service across small areas, such as Wi-Fi long range links, private cell phone repeaters... which a single individual could try and rig over his/her community. Therefore. Why do we even need this? To use for simple messaging over some specific locked app/protocol which apparently does not support any sort of high bandwidth usages. I see really niche usecase for this product. Basically, is sort of like a off-the-grid communication tool, only that you are still in a grid (some one else's), unless you crawl your way through this thing source code and actually have an isolated setup, if you are paranoid or a criminal. Still, you could do the same (private network mesh) with existing technology in much simpler ways. Hence. Why?
french already did this. Take a look at their country side. Some supermarkets do exist but their main selling products are chemicals and products that you can't produce at home, majority of food is from local farmers. Quality food, similar price.
Exactly. There comes a point where peer to peer is not enough on its own and will have to be interconnected with a bigger system such as the internet, cellular service, satellite systems, or landline phone connections.
@@FrostCraftedMC but it is using low frequencies so only so much bandwidth it can have. If you wanted to send pictures or videos, you would have a hard time. If more people get on it, it will actually congest the network even more
God I wish you would stop overselling the crap out of every product, project or video you cover/produce. It is tiresome and makes your content, which can be actually pretty entertaining/informative, hard to watch. So over the top every time, disingenuous and just plain tacky. Just be real man. People will love it. This click bait UA-cam marketing brain is just getting shameful at this point. Just showcase what you've got, it's awesome without the fluff! You make good content! Let it stand on its own without the crap. You don't need it like others do!
It only bothers me when i fall for it by only watching what grabs my attention via thumbnail. I try not to let the “ phone killer “ algorithm nonsense be the reason I watch. I try to either watch videos from creators I already trust where the subject matter fits to my interests or I look at videos out of simple curiosity knowing that even when I don’t like the video I still try to find something to learn from it. If all else fails I just stop watching it, without regrets, knowing that I’m actually curating my feed by cutting the video short, this lets the algorithm know I didn’t like the video. I’ve never seen his videos but I recognized the tech that’s why I’m here.
@@hanslain9729 there's an add-on that brings them back. It's a shame UA-cam removed them to censor the discourse against Biden during the fraudulent 2020 election
Yeah.. without a massive coverage i can't see this competing with anything. Like someone already commented - this technology should be implemented into an actual phone device and not the separate device, it should also work as a hotspot to provide mesh infrastructure with phones nearby which do not have this technology. The security risk is massive, every connection should be encrypted and terminated if another device intercepts it.
@@joshuachubb9397 I don't think control is the right term for this. Its only partially about being semi anonymous and more about independent infrastructure which works without the need of infrastructure from some service provider. If being able to use your phone and communicate with people is what you need, then you can just use existing services and it's fine. More so if frequencies can be easily intercepted by the third party, then you have same or even less amount of control for your anonymity. So what we are left with is the cost. If you are planing to use it on your isolated from the world farm walkie-talkie might be cheaper option.
@@jamess1787 "Who calls these days?" I would say hundreds of millions worldwide. What I'm able to arrange by call in one minute, you will be typing like an ldiot half an hour.
No, this one "plugs" into a network of all other devices that do this and sends the packets over it. You don't have to be close to the other node, they don't even have to connect to each other. They just have to "see" somebody else in the meshtastic network. It's basically the internet, but off the internet. Using a different technology which has soooooo much more range than wi-fi, but it's super slow because of it. Great for text, or sensors sending data. You can also install a more powerful version of this on your roof and basically become a "cell tower" for people near you, to give back to the community
@@FAB1150 So as soon as everyone gets one of these it'll be useful. Until then it's a walki-talki. Also, it doesn't do voice as far as I can see, and definitely isn't doing web browsing of any kind, which is one of the main things people use their phones for at this point. So it's a shitty beeper at this point with no one using it.
It's a myth, meshtastic doesn't work in the woods, so if your in the desert, you might be in luck but if there's trees or mountains, your better off using a messenger pigeon
Being a Meshtastic user myself, i believe it is overated. You are limited by the number of nodes and your recipient need a node themselves. The range is not as good, also. Sure you can upgrade your antenna, later on the battery, tinker a lot for what? One text message. Please stop these videos, i thibk you're overstating the Meshtastic network ...
to right gives it a bad name makes it into a joke sound like the compression is not its use case i was thinking a grate way to communicating with smart Nodes withe no need for internet connection
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10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
@Ninurtha1 the government has already shown that it doesn’t care what the Supreme Court or the constitution says. They’ll flat out ignore the courts and the people will just go along with what the government says.
Seems to be good technology for emergency situations. I live in New Orleans, La where we have frequent cell outtages during hurricane season and festivals like Mardi Gras. Maybe even good for off grid living/ tech homesteading/ compound living.
For the first thing: iPhones now lets you send messages over satellite out of the box (from very recent, like 2 months ago), and that will let you contact anyone else with an iPhone from a location with 0 mobile reception, or also to emergency services. Even further, if you have mobile network support for this new feature (verizon now has it) you can also send a standard SMS also over satellite to absolutely anyone. Worth looking into! I even came across an article titled "This iPhone feature could save your life in a hurricane" (google that) -- so people are already doing it!
@@ValTek_Armory and the network falls over if too many people connect as the same messages get repeated by everyone in the node they bounce around like Pachinko balls
For national parks, assuming that a mesh like service coverage area could be made for it for continuous service, these could hypothetically solve some issues for the campers in that area if they need to get in contact with emergency services, or even the forestry service wanting to talk amongst themselves. That being said, there have been no videos to suggest these can function that way.
This honestly makes the most sense for a total grid down scenario. I don’t see any benefit to this otherwise. You would need one of these nodes every so often in a circular area to make it worth any value outside a set of long range walkie talkies, or even a CB/HAM radio truthfully.
Imagine this in reverse. So we’ve picked up this device today. It can text, make calls, do video, browse the internet, call anyone anywhere in the world, and you don’t need line of sight. I dunno…. Seems like phones win.
@@pauls5745 it’s not as if you can’t listen in on radio transmissions, likely more easily. Encryption solves this. Encryption exists on both devices. Not saying you can’t use these radios for specific use cases, but it’s hard to see how you escape from the sheer utility of a phone, which already saturated the market.
I wish you explained exactly what it does at the start. You said it utilises cell towers to create a peer to peer connection. But what does that mean exactly? Does it call the other one? Do you have to use your phone to do the communicating? What exactly are messages? Like SMS? Something else? Halfway through and I’m still confused. Okay you finally explained it. That looks really cool. I can definitely see utility in it. Particularly as it continues to evolve
This is how excited Id be to play with toy walkie talkies. As a kid, hype af. Nothing compared to the power of phones though. Phones control our way of life. Its more than just calls and texts lol.
@joshuachubb9397 yeah Phones are definitely a double edged sword. It's nice to fantasize about the way of life before they blew into the forefront of our very existence, but I think it's unrealistic to speculate a world without them anymore. At least in the modernized societies, we've grown so dependent on the constant stimulation, it's difficult to imagine that people in today's age would let that technology go, as nice as it is to wish for at times for the sake of our community and even sanity
The biggest fear factor isn't the phones themselves but the minds behind the engineering companies, producing hardware and software to consume our humanity for the sake of short lived pleasure. We put so much energy into this digital life that when we try to engage in our physical reality, there's minimal interest from most involved in the digital dystopia. There will come resolution but I'm not sure how or whether it will happen in our lifetime.
These type devices are designed for line of sight to get the full coverage claims. Take the range of whatever it is you’re using then divide it in half to be realistic if you’re in a clear flat space like a giant meadow. So 10km is about 6 miles cut that in half to 5km and 3 miles. Then divide that into 4 and that’s how far the range is with buildings. So just a little more than 3/4 of a mile range. That’s accurate.
It's good and all but it's still limited to line of sight and because of that the range is still fairly short. Plus it's using 915 antenna, would be good to have it swappable for compliance to different regions
certainly has some niche use cases but as mentioned by many others , not going to effect phone companies. I did think of use cases like search and rescue in areas with low/no cel signal so could be used in addition to walkie talkies. For example , different search pods looking in different areas, one pod with a doctor and another pod finds the target who is injured - they can explain things via walkie talkies but it isnt always clear, text messages are clearer and you could also send photos to help diagnose things. Or another use case is in areas with high cel saturation , like at sports events / festivals - security and stewards could be provided with these to ensure stable communications. Niche uses, but useful
so? do you really constant communication if cell service goes down? you just keep about with your day until they're back up. Unless you're on an expedition where cell service doesnt exist, in which case, get a fucking walkie talkie. They're a fraction of the price, have batteries that can be swapped, and don't rely on the function of another device to be useful.
My great grands watched this with us kiddies and they were reminded of playing telephone. With cups and string. It took how many years of that before we got our first blackberries they asked???? A long long long time. Then there was no innovation after that. So.
Why would you want to regress technology. Your phone can do more than this. A walkie talkie can do more than this. What's the point? You couldn't even text your spouse when you're at work unless you work right down the street from your house.
WARNING!! some of the developers/mods on the meshtastic discord are ban crazy. if you try to help people by awnsering their questions you will get banned.
In emergency situations, handheld radios like GMRS, ham, and CB radios are far more reliable than enclosed mesh systems. These radios are robust, can survive EMPs, and don’t rely on any external infrastructure. In the event of an EMP, your smartphone and other modern electronics are likely to be fried, but handheld radios, especially when turned off, are much less likely to be affected. While the Meshtastic device may offer encrypted communication, in a real emergency, you want to be in communication with as many people as possible. The Meshtastic device is essentially a glorified enclosed mesh system, and similar functionality can be found in free apps available on app stores. For serious emergency preparedness, traditional handheld radios are the way to go.
Incorporating SDR with laser links is next. It would be a great experiment for cities beaming information to your neighbor. Use solar panels for a laser receiver.
I can see how this is gonna take off, for parents staying connected with their kids as a backup safety feature. But "phone killer"... I doubt it. People can't leave the house or get into bed without their bloody phones nowadays 🥴
It's not going to replace cell phones but I can see where it would be usable. Such as group communication if you are in the middle of the woods camping or if multiple cars are traveling down a secluded highway. The range of these devices is going to be limited by the antenna. It's like ham radio. The better the antenna the longer the communication. A roof or pole-mounted external antenna with db gain should drastically improve the range of this device. So you can have one device at the house with a roof-mounted antenna and then a second device in your car with a nmo style antenna mounted on the roof of the car. I wonder how many "fars" they could talk to each other. Personally I have not used the 900mhz band for direct radio to radio communication but where I live a lot of public safety agencies use the state-wide VIPER radio system. It's mostly 800mhz range and it does great as long as the user is not too far away from a VIPER tower. The 800mhz portables transmit on 3 watts of power and have a few miles of range and our mobile (vehicle-mounted) radios have 35 watts of power and can go 20-40 miles. I am glad to see communication technology that is innovating like this one. If these little "radios" can be connected to cell towers and use them in like a daisy chain these devices would be absolutely amazing. Thank you for posting about these. I would love to see some real-world range testing performed.
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
Pretty cool reuse for 900 mHz frequencies. I'd like to see signal tests of the unit outside the carbon fiber printed case. Carbon fiber can affect the capability of the antenna to send and receive.
It seems like a lot of your videos get into controversies. You have cringe ways to get people to subscribe and hidden sponsorships with outlandish claims like "the end of phone providers".
I agree with that but there is a reason for LoRa devices,they can be very very useful in a emergency especially during or after a hurricane or earthquake.
IMHO all Android devices should have this kind built-in. In emergency situation, you could activate the mode and it would override the cellural network (so you can't keep both same time open) and become member of the mesh network that would then allow transmit messages in whole net or proximity.
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10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
If i understand correctly..its a way to bypass the heavily watched big brother cell networks. Not useless if you highly value privacy over convenience.
This is a very interesting device/ technology. I think it could actually be a potentially useful tool for my family as we travel a lot out of county, and out of urban areas. the though of a portable network system is really exciting...
If this could be used without the cell phone assistance i would be on board. I still might give it a try honestly, so I can be in the loop when the technology develops.
Interesting technology that could be very useful in certain situations but I would be amiss if I didn't point out that with the requirements It needs to work, it sounds like that device would work perfectly in a 15 minute city until the government doesn't want it to.
Might as well subscribe if you are reading this
Lol. Nuh, I'll just dislike the video and any other clickbait trash you put out, simp.
The video is not clear on what this does or doesn't do, can it voice call, and watch youtube? If not, you should make that very clear and the video is misleading.
If the world ends and grid is down...we have bigger problems and im pretty sure this device is not going to help much.
Don't delete comments. Your video is clickbait trash, own it.
Dammit! Stop making me buy random awesome gadgets! lol
(keep up the great work, DS!)
If disposable vape manufacturers started including these LoRa chips in those new full color display vapes and gaming vapes we would have a robust national and possibly international wireless mesh network within days.
Just Do it!
You recreated the plot of silicon valley but with vapes
@@discoverneweyesthe remake
Wireless wifi ejuice would be nice
I'm not really sure vapers are willing to shoulder the overhead this device will cost, plus the battery upkeep etc. Most of them will immediately flock towards the next cheaper thing.
I wish people were as considerate as you think, but no. Not in a thousand years.
The beginning of the end of smartphones.
Step 1: connect your smartphone to the device.
Bonk! 😂
He didn't say smartphones, he said cell carriers like T-Mobile and Google fi.
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Oh man, wait till you hear about walkie talkies.
wow
Ham radio
I don't think walkie talkies are encrypted
@@cutty02you just have to talk in pig latin, duhhhh!
I have a set of Motorola walkies that par with your android to share GPS maps and whatever ekse they do I bought 5 years ago
A vape that can send text messages? That’s like every Zoomer’s dream device.
I feel like this could be a future video topic for Crazy Ken… I like being wrong though 😂
The catch is, it's not refillable lol
😂
I am 100% making that, and I'm adding speech to text; also text to speech for when people respond.
Should I integrate noise cancellation into the vape unit? There's a sentence you don't see every day lol but it's an opportunity for RISCV to create a tiny market slice, too small to even be niche but enough for a single dev to make some $$$ without paying asinine royalties to capital/investment management companies, which own all the really good commercial tools at this point.
funny enough they exist there's lots of vapes that run android and yes even disposables
This sounds like saying supermarkets are dying because anyone could produce tomatoes in their backyard 😂
It wouldn't be hard to get it off the ground. Just give out a hundred or so according to where they live, within, say, a city or county.
@dieselphiend my point is, for such a business critical service, you would want to expect some degree of central authority to impose a set of rules and, specially, a "good enough" availability service levels.
Hence, there would need to exist, at least, an enterprise grade mesh (which private users may end up prefering as well, due to better QoS)
Eventually, at least 1 private organization would be laying down these setups over countries, in order to ensure service coverage. Et voilà! You have ISPs again.
There are existing, and actually old, technologies to provide cheap service across small areas, such as Wi-Fi long range links, private cell phone repeaters... which a single individual could try and rig over his/her community.
Therefore. Why do we even need this? To use for simple messaging over some specific locked app/protocol which apparently does not support any sort of high bandwidth usages.
I see really niche usecase for this product. Basically, is sort of like a off-the-grid communication tool, only that you are still in a grid (some one else's), unless you crawl your way through this thing source code and actually have an isolated setup, if you are paranoid or a criminal.
Still, you could do the same (private network mesh) with existing technology in much simpler ways. Hence. Why?
french already did this. Take a look at their country side. Some supermarkets do exist but their main selling products are chemicals and products that you can't produce at home, majority of food is from local farmers. Quality food, similar price.
@@auguststas7770 Is there something like this in the US or North America?
@@Kazekoge101 meshtastic is open source hardware and software. You can make your own.
Okay, this isn't a threat to cell companies, but it is amazing technology. I can see all kinds of potential uses for it.
good for remote camping locations where you still might need to contact people at camp while you're out hiking or something
Exactly. There comes a point where peer to peer is not enough on its own and will have to be interconnected with a bigger system such as the internet, cellular service, satellite systems, or landline phone connections.
it has the potential to be a threat to cell companies if everyone had one
@@FrostCraftedMC but it is using low frequencies so only so much bandwidth it can have. If you wanted to send pictures or videos, you would have a hard time. If more people get on it, it will actually congest the network even more
Not to cell phone companies but to cell services providers 😉
"bro pass me that vape i saw it in your pocket"
Seriously I thought this was a joke lmao
thats why i clicked the video
0:03 "this is no ordinary communication device" thank god, and here i was thinking these were vapes /j
+1
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God I wish you would stop overselling the crap out of every product, project or video you cover/produce. It is tiresome and makes your content, which can be actually pretty entertaining/informative, hard to watch. So over the top every time, disingenuous and just plain tacky. Just be real man. People will love it. This click bait UA-cam marketing brain is just getting shameful at this point. Just showcase what you've got, it's awesome without the fluff! You make good content! Let it stand on its own without the crap. You don't need it like others do!
Yes.
All he cares about is numbers, he even is saying so in the video. He is an algorithm b*tch :D
Facts !!!!!
gotta play the UA-cam algorithm game to get noticed unfortunately.
It only bothers me when i fall for it by only watching what grabs my attention via thumbnail. I try not to let the “ phone killer “ algorithm nonsense be the reason I watch. I try to either watch videos from creators I already trust where the subject matter fits to my interests or I look at videos out of simple curiosity knowing that even when I don’t like the video I still try to find something to learn from it. If all else fails I just stop watching it, without regrets, knowing that I’m actually curating my feed by cutting the video short, this lets the algorithm know I didn’t like the video. I’ve never seen his videos but I recognized the tech that’s why I’m here.
Mega amps?. No, no, no, my friend. That is Milli Amp. 1000th of an amp, Not a million amps. That battery would be worth millions.
Thank you for confirming it most likely being milli amp, I'm super baked and confused with the mega amp thinking this is really high power gadget 😶🌫️
wow
@@Tokermon Batteries put out milliamps. Power plants put out mega amps.
@@forgeteverythingyouknow5413 yeah I gathered that from my vape and phone battery thanks!! 👍
MEGAWATTS@@forgeteverythingyouknow5413
So walkie talkies that you can't talk on.
I feel like my time was robbed.
Not only is it a walkie talkie you can't talk on, but also a vape you can't vape on.
This is why we need dislike counters visible again.
@@hanslain9729 there's an add-on that brings them back. It's a shame UA-cam removed them to censor the discourse against Biden during the fraudulent 2020 election
@@hanslain9729 they were unfortunately disabled after biden won in order to hide his unpopularity. Thanks, Google!
Yeah.. without a massive coverage i can't see this competing with anything. Like someone already commented - this technology should be implemented into an actual phone device and not the separate device, it should also work as a hotspot to provide mesh infrastructure with phones nearby which do not have this technology. The security risk is massive, every connection should be encrypted and terminated if another device intercepts it.
They are assuming you want more control over your wireless communications not less.
@@joshuachubb9397 I don't think control is the right term for this. Its only partially about being semi anonymous and more about independent infrastructure which works without the need of infrastructure from some service provider. If being able to use your phone and communicate with people is what you need, then you can just use existing services and it's fine. More so if frequencies can be easily intercepted by the third party, then you have same or even less amount of control for your anonymity. So what we are left with is the cost. If you are planing to use it on your isolated from the world farm walkie-talkie might be cheaper option.
Cell phone killer: requires phone. Phone not included
😂
Sperm killer as well. 😅
A "phone killer" that can't make calls.... LMAO
HILARIOUS
Who calls these days? There's also WiFi calling if you need that face-time
@@jamess1787 not everyone is GEN-Zidiots , we call
Haha
@@jamess1787 you probably never had a meaningful job 😅
@@jamess1787 "Who calls these days?" I would say hundreds of millions worldwide. What I'm able to arrange by call in one minute, you will be typing like an ldiot half an hour.
Tfw you accidentally hit your wifi extender and get zooted
Omfg DED
🤣🤣🤣🤣
wow
Wow, they reinvented the radio walki-talki!
closer to HAM packet radio. i've been sending messages around the world that way with my Commodore 64 for years! 😀
Exactly
@@JimmPratti agree
No, this one "plugs" into a network of all other devices that do this and sends the packets over it. You don't have to be close to the other node, they don't even have to connect to each other. They just have to "see" somebody else in the meshtastic network.
It's basically the internet, but off the internet. Using a different technology which has soooooo much more range than wi-fi, but it's super slow because of it. Great for text, or sensors sending data.
You can also install a more powerful version of this on your roof and basically become a "cell tower" for people near you, to give back to the community
@@FAB1150 So as soon as everyone gets one of these it'll be useful. Until then it's a walki-talki.
Also, it doesn't do voice as far as I can see, and definitely isn't doing web browsing of any kind, which is one of the main things people use their phones for at this point.
So it's a shitty beeper at this point with no one using it.
this is a great way to stay connected in more remote areas but it wont replace a pocket sized laptop.
wow
Technically anything pocket sized can be placed on top of your lap
It's a myth, meshtastic doesn't work in the woods, so if your in the desert, you might be in luck but if there's trees or mountains, your better off using a messenger pigeon
Being a Meshtastic user myself, i believe it is overated. You are limited by the number of nodes and your recipient need a node themselves. The range is not as good, also. Sure you can upgrade your antenna, later on the battery, tinker a lot for what? One text message. Please stop these videos, i thibk you're overstating the Meshtastic network ...
Imagine 10% of phone users had one though..
@@ZED-PV but they dont. why would they when they already have a phone?
to right gives it a bad name makes it into a joke
sound like the compression is not its use case
i was thinking a grate way to communicating with smart Nodes withe no need for internet connection
wow
@@valasdarkholme6255 1.07 kbps long range
MOM, THE TECHBROS REINVENTED WALKIE TALKIES AGAIN
Sorta....kinda.... :)
it's a walkie talky with extra steps and text messaging.
What flavor vape is that
black licorice
Grape 🍇
Blueberry 😂
Magic smoke
That’s a phone
I like Helium’s implementation of Lorawan. Pay the host and incentivize them to do proper antenna placement. Connect to Wi-Fi/Ethernet.
I just came to see if anyone else thought this looks like a vape
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No longer. Chevron deference supreme Court decision put all that in the out house. America is back.
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
Says the person who capitalizes every single word.
@@bits360wastaken Now Why Does That Trigger "YOU"?
@Ninurtha1 the government has already shown that it doesn’t care what the Supreme Court or the constitution says. They’ll flat out ignore the courts and the people will just go along with what the government says.
Seems to be good technology for emergency situations. I live in New Orleans, La where we have frequent cell outtages during hurricane season and festivals like Mardi Gras. Maybe even good for off grid living/ tech homesteading/ compound living.
For the first thing: iPhones now lets you send messages over satellite out of the box (from very recent, like 2 months ago), and that will let you contact anyone else with an iPhone from a location with 0 mobile reception, or also to emergency services. Even further, if you have mobile network support for this new feature (verizon now has it) you can also send a standard SMS also over satellite to absolutely anyone. Worth looking into! I even came across an article titled "This iPhone feature could save your life in a hurricane" (google that) -- so people are already doing it!
He's taking a video of the "phone killer" with his phone 😂😂
Yeah he didn't script the introduction obviously, the correct wording was telecom company alternative. That's obviously what he means.
Boy, that is a head-turner. I gotta say, this is design chef's kiss.
In my area (Metro Detroit) I never once was able to connect to another node. My meshtastic excitement went from 100 to 0 and my gear collects dust.
That is the problem with niche tech. If nobody adopts it, then it is effectively useless
@@ValTek_Armory and the network falls over if too many people connect as the same messages get repeated by everyone in the node they bounce around like Pachinko balls
I feel like this technology has been around for decades but we're just now being allowed to use it.
I concur....
If you know about it, it's 20+ years old.
like every other technology.
pictochat?????
DARPA has had EVERY bit of tech we use for about 40 years before it reaches us ..
For national parks, assuming that a mesh like service coverage area could be made for it for continuous service, these could hypothetically solve some issues for the campers in that area if they need to get in contact with emergency services, or even the forestry service wanting to talk amongst themselves.
That being said, there have been no videos to suggest these can function that way.
Nah, commercial land mobile radio fills that void in VHF, UHF, and 800 band widths.
Hell even CB radio works better probably to be honest.
This honestly makes the most sense for a total grid down scenario. I don’t see any benefit to this otherwise. You would need one of these nodes every so often in a circular area to make it worth any value outside a set of long range walkie talkies, or even a CB/HAM radio truthfully.
Wow! A portable repeater! Wow! Wow! Wow!! There's NEVER a MESH technology out in the market UNTIL NOW!
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Imagine this in reverse.
So we’ve picked up this device today. It can text, make calls, do video, browse the internet, call anyone anywhere in the world, and you don’t need line of sight.
I dunno…. Seems like phones win.
but phones need a biased 3rd party as a go between, ensure regulation and give up the ghost if the feds come knocking.
@@pauls5745 it’s not as if you can’t listen in on radio transmissions, likely more easily.
Encryption solves this. Encryption exists on both devices.
Not saying you can’t use these radios for specific use cases, but it’s hard to see how you escape from the sheer utility of a phone, which already saturated the market.
You need to change your thumbnail and title. It does not represent what the product does.
That’s how click bait works… draws you in falsely. He isn’t getting rid of his phone. 😅
I wish you explained exactly what it does at the start. You said it utilises cell towers to create a peer to peer connection. But what does that mean exactly? Does it call the other one? Do you have to use your phone to do the communicating? What exactly are messages? Like SMS? Something else? Halfway through and I’m still confused. Okay you finally explained it. That looks really cool. I can definitely see utility in it. Particularly as it continues to evolve
Imagine if cell phone manufacturers included a LoRa radio on their phones...
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Not a threat because you need line of sight. It is too low power to penetrate walls very well or even deep enough.
This is how excited Id be to play with toy walkie talkies. As a kid, hype af. Nothing compared to the power of phones though. Phones control our way of life. Its more than just calls and texts lol.
Next question. Should phones be controlling our way of life? If yes, then continue. If no, then maybe let's take this step away from them?
@joshuachubb9397 yeah Phones are definitely a double edged sword. It's nice to fantasize about the way of life before they blew into the forefront of our very existence, but I think it's unrealistic to speculate a world without them anymore. At least in the modernized societies, we've grown so dependent on the constant stimulation, it's difficult to imagine that people in today's age would let that technology go, as nice as it is to wish for at times for the sake of our community and even sanity
The biggest fear factor isn't the phones themselves but the minds behind the engineering companies, producing hardware and software to consume our humanity for the sake of short lived pleasure. We put so much energy into this digital life that when we try to engage in our physical reality, there's minimal interest from most involved in the digital dystopia. There will come resolution but I'm not sure how or whether it will happen in our lifetime.
@@johnbolieau4227 It's really not a big deal to step away from the phone/computer for the better part of a day. Try it.
These type devices are designed for line of sight to get the full coverage claims. Take the range of whatever it is you’re using then divide it in half to be realistic if you’re in a clear flat space like a giant meadow. So 10km is about 6 miles cut that in half to 5km and 3 miles. Then divide that into 4 and that’s how far the range is with buildings. So just a little more than 3/4 of a mile range. That’s accurate.
what do ya do, whistle with that vape? 😂
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I thought this video was about a disposable vape scrolling past it
There was a unit like this from a company called Beartooth a while back. They don't offer it anymore but neat idea
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Dude that must work so well in the prairies and the Midwest.
It's good and all but it's still limited to line of sight and because of that the range is still fairly short. Plus it's using 915 antenna, would be good to have it swappable for compliance to different regions
It is swappable. The antenna. The battery. The case. Even the board. Can find a lot on etsy, amazon, aliexpress etc
Not really, depending on how many people around you use it. You can communicate with any device in your mesh over multiple hops.
that's why it's a mesh
certainly has some niche use cases but as mentioned by many others , not going to effect phone companies. I did think of use cases like search and rescue in areas with low/no cel signal so could be used in addition to walkie talkies. For example , different search pods looking in different areas, one pod with a doctor and another pod finds the target who is injured - they can explain things via walkie talkies but it isnt always clear, text messages are clearer and you could also send photos to help diagnose things. Or another use case is in areas with high cel saturation , like at sports events / festivals - security and stewards could be provided with these to ensure stable communications. Niche uses, but useful
The people saying "it's not adequate technology" are the same people who don't have shit when they're cell service goes down, keep up the good work
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so? do you really constant communication if cell service goes down? you just keep about with your day until they're back up. Unless you're on an expedition where cell service doesnt exist, in which case, get a fucking walkie talkie. They're a fraction of the price, have batteries that can be swapped, and don't rely on the function of another device to be useful.
@unoriginalname3442 bro my family lives 215 miles north of me you're dense asf
My great grands watched this with us kiddies and they were reminded of playing telephone. With cups and string. It took how many years of that before we got our first blackberries they asked???? A long long long time. Then there was no innovation after that. So.
Elevated position and line of sight. So what happens when you’re in the subway and the other person is on the other side of the mountain?
Probably won’t work with that small antenna
Okay, i did not understand most of what you said, but i am intrigued, so i will check it out for awhile.
If they can add a screen, sort of like how old pagers used to be, I'd be 4000% in
Yeah but old pagers are still way better than this thing is
I just looked pagers only cost $5 a year and they are text pagers anywhere in the world
Pager for factor with open network that tells you of other users are near by. That could be useful. I could see this being used for very bad purposes.
Why would you want to regress technology. Your phone can do more than this. A walkie talkie can do more than this. What's the point? You couldn't even text your spouse when you're at work unless you work right down the street from your house.
Pagers are even more useless. I don't know why anyone ever even used them. When would you need to text someone TWO miles away?
Thank you for using metric system sometimes! It brings a lot of clarity for us outside US! :)
why do i have a feeling this isnt gonna go far.
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It'll go about... 10km lmao. Useless
Time to dig through my boxes of old stuff and pull out my WALKIE TALKIES! They go further!!
WARNING!!
some of the developers/mods on the meshtastic discord are ban crazy. if you try to help people by awnsering their questions you will get banned.
Lovely Ban banners Fork Mestastic to be for freedom of speech and not Didel Bidel drones.
Not my experience.
In emergency situations, handheld radios like GMRS, ham, and CB radios are far more reliable than enclosed mesh systems. These radios are robust, can survive EMPs, and don’t rely on any external infrastructure. In the event of an EMP, your smartphone and other modern electronics are likely to be fried, but handheld radios, especially when turned off, are much less likely to be affected. While the Meshtastic device may offer encrypted communication, in a real emergency, you want to be in communication with as many people as possible. The Meshtastic device is essentially a glorified enclosed mesh system, and similar functionality can be found in free apps available on app stores. For serious emergency preparedness, traditional handheld radios are the way to go.
I couldn't bear to watch past the two-minute mark. The vocal fry is off the charts. 🤦🏽♂️
To compare to radios, this seems like an analog for radio repeaters. Cool idea, with similar limitations.
Incorporating SDR with laser links is next. It would be a great experiment for cities beaming information to your neighbor. Use solar panels for a laser receiver.
i messed around with laser links they kinda suck. directional microwave is better and cheaper
@@rabbitdrink But laser is more secure.
@@magnitudematrix2653 smoke or fog could reveal the beam, but both is safe if you aes encrypt your packets like you should
I can see how this is gonna take off, for parents staying connected with their kids as a backup safety feature. But "phone killer"... I doubt it. People can't leave the house or get into bed without their bloody phones nowadays 🥴
Imagine if every smartphone had a radio built-in that could do this ... LOL
technically your built-in GSM radio can be used for 900 mhz LORAWAN communication but the vendors have the baseband processor completely locked down
It's not going to replace cell phones but I can see where it would be usable. Such as group communication if you are in the middle of the woods camping or if multiple cars are traveling down a secluded highway. The range of these devices is going to be limited by the antenna. It's like ham radio. The better the antenna the longer the communication. A roof or pole-mounted external antenna with db gain should drastically improve the range of this device. So you can have one device at the house with a roof-mounted antenna and then a second device in your car with a nmo style antenna mounted on the roof of the car. I wonder how many "fars" they could talk to each other. Personally I have not used the 900mhz band for direct radio to radio communication but where I live a lot of public safety agencies use the state-wide VIPER radio system. It's mostly 800mhz range and it does great as long as the user is not too far away from a VIPER tower. The 800mhz portables transmit on 3 watts of power and have a few miles of range and our mobile (vehicle-mounted) radios have 35 watts of power and can go 20-40 miles. I am glad to see communication technology that is innovating like this one. If these little "radios" can be connected to cell towers and use them in like a daisy chain these devices would be absolutely amazing. Thank you for posting about these. I would love to see some real-world range testing performed.
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
I wouldn't log on to my bank account with this
It's NOT FOR THAT PURPOSE.
@@gilmoreskeen1234We know. It was either a joke or Sarcastic. Even i got that part
When you are range testing keep it upright. The cross polarization loss between a horizontal and vertical device is not to be disregarded
Wish my productive ham radio channel had this much activity. At least i explain it better.
Literally need a smartphone to use the thing.
4:00 mega ampere is crazy
Pretty cool reuse for 900 mHz frequencies. I'd like to see signal tests of the unit outside the carbon fiber printed case. Carbon fiber can affect the capability of the antenna to send and receive.
it looks like pla filament from a 3d printer, it's definitely not carbon fiber.
Awsome, for just text...😂 wake me up when I can send VOICE!!!!!!!!
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That's what I was thinking it did according to the title! Carriers have nothing to worry about with a free text walkie talkie
I can definitely imagine people keeping this device in their FEMA kits, but beyond that, maybe campers might benefit from it.
Campers aren't techbros that try to reinvent the wheel; theyll use their walkie talkies that they've been using for decades without issue
I'm all for decentralized cell service. 😎🤖
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But it's not
It's like something you can talk in while walking or maybe even the reverse: talk and walk.
It seems like a lot of your videos get into controversies. You have cringe ways to get people to subscribe and hidden sponsorships with outlandish claims like "the end of phone providers".
I agree with that but there is a reason for LoRa devices,they can be very very useful in a emergency especially during or after a hurricane or earthquake.
IMHO all Android devices should have this kind built-in.
In emergency situation, you could activate the mode and it would override the cellural network (so you can't keep both same time open) and become member of the mesh network that would then allow transmit messages in whole net or proximity.
Nice looking vape
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That's amazing! I've got the same combination on my luggage!
Okay I'm going to buy me one. I'm going to try it out and I'm let your guys know what's going on and how I feel about the device. This is The new wave 🌊 wave of technology thank you for the video and letting us know about this device. Everybody have a wonderful day. Thank you😊💯👋😎💪🇵🇷👍👍🍾✌️🆒🆗🏆
The tech isn't new. It's just packaged to sell now
Don't bother. Mestastic has some serious limitations.
10km is nothing, I guess you never heard of Motorola 35 mile walkie talkies.....56.32 km. They're about 100.00 for a pair, multichannel, multi frequency, etc etc.
If i understand correctly..its a way to bypass the heavily watched big brother cell networks. Not useless if you highly value privacy over convenience.
Walkie talkies already exist
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This is the second new product I've seen this week where someone invented a walkie talkie and told me it would overtake phones.
Looks like a vape lol
This is a very interesting device/ technology. I think it could actually be a potentially useful tool for my family as we travel a lot out of county, and out of urban areas. the though of a portable network system is really exciting...
It is indeed the end of the cell phone connection providers. It can cover quite an area !
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with this we are going to the old radio time😂
I thought it might’ve been a jammer or something lol. Boy, this could end those cell phones alright.
Need to incorporate one in every smartphone!
"No, no, no, no, no, this sucker's electrical, but I need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity I need."- Doc Brown
They should build it like a phone case you can clip on/off..no guy has room in his pocket for more stuff
If every smartphone comes with an internal LoRa antenna from factory (like Bluetooth for decades)... it could be very interesting!
If this could be used without the cell phone assistance i would be on board. I still might give it a try honestly, so I can be in the loop when the technology develops.
Interesting technology that could be very useful in certain situations but I would be amiss if I didn't point out that with the requirements It needs to work, it sounds like that device would work perfectly in a 15 minute city until the government doesn't want it to.
If there were smartphones with this type of radio embedded in them, I guess that would be interesting.
Amazing info, small correction the battery capacity is not "Mega-amps", it is "milli amp hours"
Oh my gosh, The Four Ambassadors make a featured appearance! I used to live in one of those buildings. Fantastic location!
Most places dont have buildings going that high
Thats a beauriful view of biscayne bay. Im really looking forward to use it on my long trips
This reminds me of the early days of usenet news. A public cell-based network for communities. Except this one is portable! Cool beans! 😎
I feel like this would be really good for connecting devices in a smart home without having everything on a wifi network.
If you like speed 1000x slower then wifi? I really doubt that
The Hunter wireless sprinklers interest me
Tech like this (with encryption) will be needed for when our governments go full George Orwell.