10 Biggest Ways The WWE Disrespects Its Fans | PartsFUNknown
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- We do our best to stray away from the negative when it comes to the WWE, but sometimes enough is enough. Let's face it - the WWE has some horrible habits. Join Adam Blampied as he breaks down the 10 biggest ways the WWE disrespects its fans.
What's your biggest WWE pet peeve? Let us know in the comments!
0:00 - Introduction
1:46 - #10
2:53 - #9
3:40 - #8
4:37 - #7
5:47 - #6
6:49 - #5
7:51 - #4
8:58 - #3
10:06 - #2
11:01 - #1
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WWE's target audience is Vince McMahon.
We all knew that but none of us dared say it until now. Bravo!
I've been saying that since the failed Roman push.
@@iwanttobelieve9496 first half failed current/heel run definitely successful
@@Airkong423 True but was the 3 straight years of roman worth it?
He's only out to please and entertain himself because if it's doesn't have poop or farting in it Vince doesn't like it
The end of Kofi's reign was mad disrespectful. Our voice and support helped him get that push and to have it end in 8 seconds is a big slap
No, Ali getting injured got him that spots.
Fans just ate it what was designed anyway.
Same thing happened to Bianca Belair yesterday. Just ludicrous.
@@thebossthusiast1960 wrong we don’t even know what’s going to happen
that was the exact moment I decided I was done with WWE
@@coolfrog3552 You people said the exact same thing about the Kofi storyline and look how that went. This is worse cause they did the exact same mistake again. Not only that, unlike Kofi, they treated Bianca like a main eventer by winning the rumbe, main eventing Wrestlemania, winning the title and having her get put over by Banks and Bayley. They made Bianca look bad, they made Carmella look bad, and somehow they tainted Becky's slam dunk of a return with this BS. I honestly don't get how anyone can defend this.
Modern Adam re-embracing his salty younger self with these negative lists gives me 2015-2017 memories.
It's both weird and kinda nostalgia-inducing.
Plumpy woke up from his long nap and chose "Violence"
I want to see Salty!Adam join LiW on stream for an all-out “This Company” bitchfest
@@robertwoods3871 plumpy*
The Witcher is the best game. Can we get Geralt to mind manipulate McMahon into making a good product ?
@@YallLuvXeno my mistake
Woo, that summerslam comment was such an act of unfulfilled wishful thinking
The only great thing on that show was edge vs Rollins. Summerslam had the potential to be the best ppv of the year, but it might be one of the worst.
Me Watching SS: What? No Belair vs Banks? Belair vs Carm instead? BOOO! BECKY'S BACK!!! YAAAHHH!! Becky Squashes Belair, and Lesner's back? BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@epayne6 lesnar return was good though
@@tacticalg754 was it tho? The match ended the same way money in the bank ended.
@@epayne6 Quite the rollercoaster there.
My favorite example of piped-in crowd noise being treated as valid was on a raw talk after legends night where goldberg came back. Ali was on the show talking about how it's ridiculous that we keep focusing on the past to which one of the interviewers responded "but did you hear the reaction goldberg got?" as if we didn't know all the sounds were controlled by a small man in a room the entire time
The irony as well, seeing how much they ridiculed WCW for doing the same thing when they were doing the Gillberg deal.
Aew dose the same lol
@@tonyslicer7399 sure every company sweeten crowds, but AEW didn't once try and tell the fans that the chearing was real when there was nobody in the building
@@chrisninety1 Gillberg was hilarious. It's rare when the WWE's intentional comedy is actually funny.
Oddly enough this was in every conceivable way directed at last night's SummerSlam even though it wasn't.
I am so glad that I didn't even bothered to watch Summerslam, last night. My friend from high school coming over to take me out for dinner was a blessing in disguise.
@@xgray2012 you missed out man honestly
@@xgray2012 Only Edge vs Rollins was worth watching. Good on you for not watching the show, but if you feel like it, watch Edge vs Rollins.
@@ripplycreature6678 Missed out on the continuation of Roman’s played out title reign?
@@kylejohns2685 that’s not true at all but okay
This is the same company that thought an ECW crowd wanted to see Batista vs. Big Show.
To be fair, it was what a certain senile pervert wanted to see, and he is the first to tell you he knows better than the fans do when it comes to what they want to see.
Well ecw was apart of wwe so why wouldn't wwe superstars be on ecw? Are ecw fans stupid? 😂
“Rules don’t matter!” Eva getting herself DQed because she smacked Alexa with the doll but not somehow
Thank God, I didn't want to see this match because it was stupid before it even became an official match card.
Ya I just ignored that
So she did and didn't get herself dq'd? I skipped almost that whole match, but that is one hard sentence to unpack lol.
@@gst013 She should have gotten DQed but didn’t
@@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty it'd be the equivalent of someone hitting cameron grimes with his hat, not really dq worthy at all..and isn't so much a weapon as a prop.
Agree with all of these, especially the board games.
Creative team: "We need a hook for Cena vs Reigns"
Vince: "Let's say Reigns will leave if he loses"
Creative team: "But...but nobody thinks for 5 seconds that Reigns will be leaving the company. Nobody thinks this. Nobody could. Nobody"
Vince: "So you agree! Book it!"
Sadly, no matter how many times WWE disrespects the fans, fans will still continue in pouring money and watching its shows. Its a bit of an epitome of what CM Punk said in his Pipebomb with the whole “Spoke on the wheel thing.”
I guess that's why the ratings keep falling.
CM PUNK speaks the truth
lesser and lesser fans will pour said money if nothing changes, everyone has limited patience. They can't keep making money forever
It's been 10 years after that promo and it STILL speaks the truth. It's both awesome and sad at the same time. HHH may have redeemed himself with NXT, but as for the rest...
Fax
Bianca being squashed, Goldberg's feud extending, setting up Reigns-Lesnar: Part 52... and that was all love from WWE in just one night!
I feel like Lesner’s return overshadowed a detail people are ignoring and that’s the fact Cena decided to ‘wrestle’ more as a freakin meme last night then normal
Cause instead of his Super Cena Era of 5 Moves of Bullsh*t
He also used numerous surprise roll up attempts like he pulled on Smackdown
As if he watches the UA-cam shows like Simon Miller’s Ups and Downs which did a counter for wins via surprise Roll Ups last year which reached 100 in WWE within less then 10 months
And that was only including RAW, Smackdown, and PPVs
Not NXT, Takeovers, or C Shows
I hate that Becky Lynch's return which was nice had to come at the expensive of Bianca Belair's push, no Vince you bastard you shouldn't have done
@@burnthetrolls5971 as much as I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt till at least Friday
I’m also SUPER paranoid on we’re this goes cause their present track record gives me NO confidence in this being actually properly salvaged
Hell in a Cell 2019 proved that they could give two sh*ts about salvaging a terrible ending
@@arashitendou5941 WWE proved LONG ago that they do not ever deserve the benefit of the doubt on creative gaffes.
@@Deadguy2322forreal the only reason they get any at this moment is cause they know their Women’s division is lacking right now and Becky is aiming for a Heel run anyways
Bully Ray has said that when The Dudleys returned in 2015, Vince told them their job was to get their tag teams over. Those tag teams during their run included, from memory: Enzo & Cass, The New Day, The Usos, The Vaudevillains, Gallows & Anderson, The Prime Time Players, and probably someone I’m forgetting. Everyone except The Usos (and The New Day if you don’t count Big E being split off for the moment) have been split up or are out of the company
Or both lmao
coming back to this cause AEW just showed tag team wrestling AND steel cage matches can be awesome, especially when put together, who would've thought?
@@conc0n it was something really special and i got to witness it live! It also happened to be the first ppv i ever watch :D
yeah i remember when wwe ACTUALLY cared about tag teams
@@tazdivil6527 and cage matches that revolves around the ORIGINAL concept
Your STUCK in that cage with someone that hates you can CAN’T get out!
But nope that’s TO SIMPLE for WWE and Vince we need the door escape to win rule or the climb over the top to escape and win rule added
But that eliminates the point of a cage match
He have Hell in a Cell
But you ended more then a few with I Quit Rules and Ref Stoppage!
How about #11: Using roughly 15 wrestlers total to book a 2 hour show week in week out.
So many problems could be fixed by them actually using the pool of wrestlers available to them. They could easily add 10 wrestlers to each scene, and then:
a) No more stale match ups because wrestlers could move between feuds
b) No need for constantly screwy finishes because you don't have to set up yet another rematch.
c) No need for 50-50 booking, because a wrestler can go on a 'bad' run and enhance multiple other wrestlers before finding some form and returning to the top of their division in a little while.
d) No need to 'pad' a show with bad angles and non-wrestling stuff, because you have more options to work with.
e) No chance of over exposure, because you can give wrestlers weeks off and have another feud/plain old match some air time.
f) Better employee morale, because even the wrestlers who aren't flavour of the month get to actually wrestle rather than sit in catering.
I could go on.
Of course, this won't ever happen because Vince is a control freak who has to be in charge of everything, and doesn't have enough space in his head for lots of concurrent storylines.
But that’s the whole point of having other (good) writers. So when you can’t do something you have someone else do it for you.
I feel like your top threee points are in bed with each other, but in different order. Lazy booking leads to lazy finishes, which then lead to lazy exceptions to the rules, which then lead to lazy rematches. Great list this week.
Lets put this into perspective... Jericho been feuding with MJF for a year... and how many times have they fought 1 on 1? 2 times... in a year. With both being a mainstay on TV.
I feel like they started their storyline the dynamite after Full Gear 2019 its almost 2 years
And how many times have the Inner Circle fought against the Pinnacle? So many damn times! AEW does the same matches over and over and over!
@@jakedaniels6015 stables feuding is completely different to two individuals. The match ups can be varied, not the same two in the ring literally week after week. I agree the feud has dragged on too long now, but each match between them all has been different in one way or another.
I hear ya, but AEW is a young company working to find it's place in the wrestling world (with a very recent and amazing upgrade), but they are actively working things out and trying to establish stars and finding out who they are. WWE is (hopefully was) a monopoly with the ability to fulfill absolutely any idea at their disposal. But instead of being the fan-appreciating, employee-friendly company they very much can afford to be, they are instead a money-grubbing, "my way or the highway", "i know better than you", let me throw a military veteran show on christmas so i can feel better about all of the horrible things i've done in my life, company.
@@camero220 The wrestling landscape never needed a young company like the shithole that is AEW! They just try to shove old WWE names down the fans throats until they get tired of them and then want someone else!
1. Not giving us CM Punk Ice Cream Bars
I dont know why people are so hesitant to talk bad about wwe. They deserve every bit of it.
It's literally what these fans talk about everytime lol.
Probably because you'll get people like Rust down there parroting the same excuses like "It's not WWE's fault for putting on bad shows fans don't like. It's the fans fault for not liking them." To WWE fanboys liking what and who you want instead of who and what Vince wants you to is supposedly "hijacking the show" when it isn't. And wanting and expecting a good show, getting a terrible one and expressing that it was bad is entitlement according to Vince worshippers.
Surprised you didn't have 'Home town burials' in there. I hate how Vince always humiliates wrestlers in their home towns instead of. you know.. making the crowd happy about something.
Well, there are more than 10 things wrong with WWE and the list was written/recorded before Summerslam, had it been recorded afterwards, we would have gotten a top-20, lol!
Dude I hate home town burials. Like, why? What’s the point there? A swerve? Just to be an arse?
It’s like the one reliable, and yet easiest pops WWE could ALWAYS give themselves… and they don’t. What’s the point?
@@NeonKnightOA I would have liked to see that.
Unless it’s a Saudi show😕
Those were always hilarious to me because it was always like what better way to prove that Vince hated all of his in ring talent than to humiliate them in front of all of their family ,friends & childhood fast food boss they ever had before they were forced into the real world of employment
Honestly the best thing to ever happen to wrestling fans is AEW.
Not because AEW is great, personally I don’t watch it, but it is treating our passion with respect and now talent, fans and ultimately money are drifting away from WWE.
Yea, they don't insult your intelligence with referees turning their back for 30 minutes while the heels attack the babyface.
Or kicking out of 630 sentons, top rope tombstones, diamond cutters......
Eff outta here
@@rustcohle6490 If you can't see how competition to WWE, that is actually willing to listen to fans and to spend big bucks just like McMahon, is good for ALL wrestling then you're blind. CM Punk returning has McMahon on his heels which is good, not cause I want WWE to burn but because it means that WWE has to get BETTER to retain. Meaning if each company pushes each other to get better we will have great wrestling all around soon enough
@@rx98 WWE's done a great job with its fanboys like Rust. Got them well brainwashed into believing anything not WWE is awful.
@@rustcohle6490 you're either wilfully missing the point or a legit moron
@@phoenixmodellingphotography Competition is great for wrestling. Aew has to fuc%ing go tho. Attitude era from wish
Wwe just leaves money on the table. Sting vs Taker would've been a money maker no matter the outcome, Lesnar vs Lashley. They say no to the idea then tease you after the fact asking "what if".
Sting vs Taker didn't happen because Sting kept turning down offers with wwe. And when he finally did taker was too old. You can blame wwe for alot but that wasn't really their fault.
@@kodychesire WrestleMania 31 could have had Sting vs Undertaker
Who wins?
Lesnar v Lashley is good but Roman vs Lesnar is better
Sting has repeatedly said that Taker told him that he wasn’t interested in doing that match. It takes two to tango, and if The Undertaker doesn’t want the match, Vince isn’t going to force him to do it.
"Not enough time to promote everyone"
"Endless rematches"
Problems you would almost think are mutually exclusive
Funny how this isn't in response to SummerSlam, yet at SummerSlam we got an established star return to squash the newer womans champion, dumb voodoo doll nonsense and another part timer returning...
And it's funny how AEW got a part timer to come sit on his ass and run his mouth about nothing. Don't hate cause WWE showed Mr. Brooks how a return was done!
And a non finish in a world title match
@@jakedaniels6015 I'm assuming that's sarcasm right?
@@jakedaniels6015 You're right. Punk should have showed up and pinned Miro in 3 seconds. That's how you do a return *Troll Face Meme*
@@michaelchristopher8541 And what Phil Brooks did was any good? All he did was sit on his ass and run his mouth. I guess that's just as good as any talking segment in WWE!
You missed my biggest anger point, Burials! Have a favorite WWE wrestler? Why?! They'll just be made to look stupid in about a year. Best to just not bother.
Man that goldberg vs lashley non finish looks really bad now.
Everything about Botchberg always looks really bad.
following WWE in 2021 is like staying a bad relationship.
"are you still SEEING them???"
"You don't know them like I do!"
Great analogy!!!
It's ironic that fans end up an abused spouse in this era and not when Steve Austin was the top guy
This list is just everything I’ve felt about WWEs main roster since I started watching wrestling again in 2016. And I’m beyond the point of burnout with watching any of it. I was told this morning that WWE brought back their biggest current face to be a heel and their biggest old heel back to be a face against their biggest current heel by destroying their biggest old face. It’s baffling levels of overbooking that feels so cheap and like a middle finger to the fans.
The wrestling, the crowd, the fans, none of that matters. WWE is not a pro wrestling company, it is an entertainment content company, and as long as people are still tuning in and TV companies are paying hand over fist for that content, you bet your ass it’s not gonna change.
At least not until say, Disney or the BBC buys out the promotion and enforces a makeshift company-wide reboot on the spot, WCW 2000 style...
Yep
What are you talking about?
I don’t think these companies are gonna renew these deals with how much these numbers are dropping. If they don’t reinvigorate new fans, when that deal comes back around they aren’t gonna get the chance to renew it.
As Adam said "We want to enjoy Wrestling"
And right now, WWE just isn't enjoyable
Disagree. I love it right now.
@@archie4497 you’re easy to please
@@archie4497 more power to you then. To me, it is simply frustrating
@@archie4497 why? I'm genuinely asking because I'm curious ,as I personally do not enjoy WWE rn. I just want to hear what you enjoy about WWE rn.
@@archie4497 You're not the rest of the world.
One major problem is wwe apparently hire writers who have never worked in wrestling which explains why some storylines r horrendous
I feel like it's fair to take shots at WWE at this point. They literally have every negative controversy in the book. Yet people still want to say "why are you being so negative" idk man, why do they actually make toxic company decisions (and I dont mean booking)
That's even before you take into consideration the possible supporting of human trafficking from the 80s-90s, the steroid scandal from the 90s, the alleged spousal abuse cover-ups and alleged homicide cover-ups. if those are true, then WWE makes what Blizzard did to their employees look like child's play.
I've always said that if WWE was a smaller company they'd be out of business because they honestly just move from PR disaster to PR disaster. Like there are things I enjoy about WWE but they honestly are somehow the absolute worst when it comes to PR. Like every other promotion does this, it's hard not to have some sort of controversy in wrestling, but not as consistently as WWE seems to.
@@mageside Hell, just look at Jimmy Use getting arrested for DUI YET AGAIN and not being fired according to the Wellness Policy for it, while people in the middle of feuds are cut for no good reason.
This is almost therapeutic to listen to. I stopped watching WWE after Hell in a Cell 2019 and - Roman Reigns aside - it sounds like it's somehow even worse now (I keep up with what's going on but never watch...). Absolutely nothing matters in WWE so why should anyone care to watch? It's insulting, and nothing will ever motivate them to be better unless the networks start getting upset about the ratings. Thank god for AEW
More of a New Japan guy myself, but for the most part I agree.
Also I like Edge's matches this year, though some of that can come back to Roman
Not getting behind in pushing new hot wrestlers can be the biggest one, even in summerslam Blair got squashed by the returning Becky
Remember when at wm37 everyone thought we were in a new era of womens wrestling in wwe? Everyone thought Bianca and Rhea were coronated as the new faces of the division. 4 months later, both women have lost their belts and the new champs are Charlotte and Becky... AGAIN.
The fact Becky is prolly gonna stoop to the same level as Charlotte in terms of overexposure in favor of newer stars genuinely saddens me.
It's honestly pretty ballsy of WWE to keep pushing the older talent considering their diminished life spans too...
You're not gonna have these guys forever, WWE. Gotta keep new guys coming in and elevating them.
Honestly I didn't hate that. Huge surprise, huge pop, and I feel like it could build to a Bianca heel turn (imo she's way better heel) and great feud with Becky
@@Zepravity I honestly hope it leads to that and it pays off.
Yep, quite on point. For a company that prides itself for being an "entertainment" company, with the exception of NXT, it puts quite a boring product.
Smackdown is good what you talking about?
@@coolfrog3552 Even Smackdown has turned into groundhog day smh
Smackdown is doing pretty good right now.
RAW NEEDS HELP.
Real help.
The constant non-finishers on pay-per-view is the main reason I believe WWE should go back to the late-80s/early-90s system of only the big 4 (Royal Rumble in winter, Wrestlemania in spring, Summerslam in summer and Survivor Series in fall).
Since the premise of Night of Champions is “every belt in the company is on the line this one night” and Wrestlemania is effectively the closest thing WWE has to a season finale, merge NoC with Wrestlemania to blow off all their championship storyline. Hell-in-a-Cell, Money in the Bank, and TLC should not be pay-per-views, but instead should go back to being occasional specialty matches to blow off major feuds, or in MitB’s case, start new ones, and maybe keep King of the Ring as a 5th pay-per-view positioned between Wrestlemania and Summerslam to introduced the main new post-Wrestlemania feuds, but other than that WE DON’T NEED 12 F**KING PAY-PER-VIEWS EVERY F**KING YEAR, especially when 2/3 of them don’t even f**king matter most years.
This topic couldn't have come at a perfect time.
I still genuinely very annoyed about Bianca. WWE is actively hurting my enjoyment of wrestling as a whole because as WWE is the most popular "wrestling" company rn it makes me upset that this is the "flag bearer" of the wrestling world as a whole.
@@callumcaddell1530 You telling me. A company just concerned with looks and size, instead of actual talent.
Im so glad i stopped watching a few months back. I dont have to care anymore and its fantastic.
@@callumcaddell1530 You people just say one bad thing about the company and completely ignore everything else like number one you don’t know what’s going to happen and number two THE MAIN EVENT OF SUMMERSLAM
@@coolfrog3552 Another one of "you people" excuses lol, you need people to make a list for you? And also, is your counter argument that they are unpredictabable? Just because you dont know what happens it means that its good? I legit dont understand that point, and what about the main event? Brock returned to fight reigns again instead of lashley which we havent seen, what is so special about it?
#1 The entirety of Raw in 2021
2. The 2015 Royal Rumble
3. Hell in a cell 2019
4. Rusev
Only 10 this could be an multi parter series
Wrestling is supposed to be fun and invoke positive emotions. WWE makes people feel sad, angry, annoyed, bored, disappointed, embarrassed to be a fan, pissed off, ripped off and for all the wrong reasons. This week was all the proof we need… go watch AEW because over there wrestling feels fun again
Agreed
HAHA it's cute you think those issues were only prevalent this week and not at all happening before this week Jimbo.
@@mageside hey this could be the finger poke of death vs mike Foley being a champion.
And now the role is reversed. We don't know
@@mageside If that's how you chose to interpret my comment, then you are mistaken Jordan. This week just really highlighted the point in which many of us fans have felt for long time. It was the perfect contrast between emotions watching AEW and WWE.
WWE: Why don't people love us like they used to anymore?
Adam Blampied: Here's a list of 10 things you do that anger and disrespect the fans. Stop doing them and you could win the fans back.
WWE: I bet it's because the wrestlers are too short...
If only WWE would respect the stars they build. Bianca got done dirty.
I think it was an attempt to do a shock squash, like Cody on AEW putting over the next big thing by taking the hit. The difference is that Bianca's star was still on the rise, and she was relegated to jobber. Should've picked an established and protected talent rather than just destroying the momentum of what had been built as the future of the division. Squash Bailey or something, someone who can take the hit.
You're bitter about it? Great! Because that's a shock upset.
Bianca was boring as hell thank god seth's pegger came back
@@Olipop2 I'd hate to see you book a wrestling show if you think that was a good booking decision. Goldberg crushing Lesnar in seconds was a good shock upset, because Lesnar has been an unstoppable beast for years and can eat that kind of loss. Bianca has only been on top for a matter of months, then Becky (who was once the underdog too) comes and crushed her momentum. Absolutely terrible idea.
@@jordank1489 I agree with you 💯
For Me it's the fact how they always seem to Push one guy as "The Man" it's how they have so much talent and they just feed it to the one guy who is supposed to be the face of the Company
It's such an unbalance
It's the Hulk Hogan model. WWE got big to begin with because of Hulkamania, and that has driven the company ever since. It's always got to be the one or two top guys who carry the whole company, and Vince being on the look out for the next top guy. After Hulkamania it was Bret and Shawn, then Stone Cold and Rock, then Cena, then... well... nobody. Nobody's at that level now, even if Vince wants Reigns to be. There were options there in Punk and Bryan and a few other guys, but they didn't fit Vince's Hulk mold. Which, y'know, is really weird given that Stone Cold didn't either. If he was around today, he would have been punished for getting over.
@@CoryTheRaven Frustrating thing is, if you look at WWE's other boom period (the Attitude Era), that was very much an ensemble cast. Yes, Austin was the biggest, but you simultaneously had people like Rock, Triple H, Kurt Angle, Mick Foley, Undertaker, etc in the upper echelons, all of whom were popular favourites and none of whom felt like they were being ignored in favour of one guy.
"Just to be clear, this list was recorded _before_ SummerSlam..."
Oh god, and he was feeling this negative _before_ that show...?!
@@Nothing72342 at this point i think the IWC wants to be upset at WWE. i'll admit i watch casually (basically just NXT and whatever shows i can catch when im not at work) but people acting like summerslam was all flavors of awful is just disingenuous
@@bronzethesequel82 this is just a terrible take my friend seriously
@@MrTreyshawn22 Maybe, I just feel out of the loop when it comes to the outrage. I thought Summerslam was fine other than Goldberg Lashly and Bliss Marie. i get why people are upset about the Becky Belair thing but Belair is sorta just the lady whos gimmick is based around a suffix to me. that's probably because i haven't seen her that much for the reason i said before
@@Nothing72342 Considering it is one of the big four, it was a bad show.
@@bronzethesequel82 Making a comment like yours when you don't watch the product is disingenuous, man.
"We didn't make this video in response to SummerSlam".
Laughing MY ass off.
"Fans want to enjoy wrestling."
Well there's your problem...
WWE isn't wrestling
🤯
If WWE isn’t wrestling, then only lord knows what AEW is
@@aarontully17 really good wrestling.
@@mindyourbuisness8104 Yessir! 💯
It's even worse. WWE is wrestling that doesn't want to be wrestling. So they do wrestling. But they do it wrong. Costantly. Because they want to be everything else, entertainment, movies, TV series, reality television. It's wrestling imitating other forms of entertainment.
Why wouldn't they disrespect the fans? They keep coming back to watch 3hr reruns of RAW no matter how bad it is. It's your own fault for continuing to support them
I stopped watching WWE years ago.
Me: So he made a lost in response to Becky's return and beating Bianca for...
Adam: "it was recorded before SummerSlam"
Me: well, that's sad
WWE doesn't even respect its own employ- ah sorry, "independent contractors", it's not surprising to me they don't respect the fans either.
"independent audience members"
Exactly. WWE is just like Disney and Blizzard in that they don't give us what we want, they tell us what we want and ignore our opinions and treat us like we're stupid retards.
3 times in the last 15 years I've tried to get back into WWE after being a fan of Attitude when I was a kid and each time I lasted about 45 minutes before I stopped watching. I watched 40 minutes of Rampage this week for the first time and I am now hooked on AEW.
It's honestly tough to be a WWE fan sometimes. I love WWE, it's been around for such a huge part of my life and it has some stars that I absolutely adore but yeah WWE doing stuff like that just drives me off.
That's what I'm saying, dude!
It makes me almost sad to admit it.. But I ate this list up like a gourmet feast and washed it down with the fine wine that is Adams platinum pipes... Beautiful. Thanks Adam ;)
Dude Adam. It’s okay. It was impossible not to get annoyed at wwe when they purposely do this. It’s like we’re domestic abuse victims in denial at this point.
Okay maybe that was too dark lool
Dark but accurate
It's not fair to compare a TV show to Domestic abuse
Not dark enough.
@@MazeDaGr8 True. WWE is torture, not abuse.
too dark but too damn true oooff
WWE just feels so... spiteful, honestly.
Here's something to let simmer in one's brain for a while:
The idea that: WWE's (Vince's) treatment of Tag Teams is just Creative (Vince) repeatedly reminding Us of the History of the WWE (Vince), and how the WWE (VINCE) is a solo act, on top.
Also, the repeated obsession with showing Us that, in the end, ultimately, we are All Solo Acts. That all those close to us WILL betray us.
Yes, I am reading into this hard, psychologically speaking.
I disagree, for me his abuse of the tag division began with 1 very clear and important event: the rockers break up. when Vince McMahon got Shawn Micheals he realized that this was a way to build up single stars. He has said why pay for 4 when 2 will make a better match.
@@funnseeker8494 Because Goldberg vs Lashley doesn't hold a candle to Midnight Express vs Rock N Roll Express. That is why you pay 4 over 2.
@@rx98 and because his attempt with Michaels and Diesel panned out terribly when he basically USED Shawn to hide Nash’s flaws only to have Nash become champ first and that fell on his face BIG TIME
Its hilarious to me that this is simultaneously one of the best times to be a wrestling fan, but one of the worst times to be a WWE fan. Thank God for AEW, Impact, New Japan, and AAA.
You clowns are so over dramatic 🤦🏽
@@jayanthony2414 You're right. I should be hyped for Reigns vs Lesnar at Wrestlemania for the 80th time
@@AmbizarYT Did I say you should and If you've been watching you'd see that Brock and Roman are doing great work right now you people are always looking to find something to cry about
@@jayanthony2414 Brock and Roman is the only thing that’s good right now. Those two alone don’t make a 2 hour show worth it
YEA THERE FIGHING EACH OTHER OVER AND OVER AGAIN SAME STYLE MATCH BORING AS HELL THEY BOTH SUCK HOW IS IT GOOD @@roxasvanitas1
"Refs don't count out, except when they do"
We see this in AEW too, but at least commentary actively push the "referee's discretion" line as a tangible reason for why
That's kind of BS too when you think about it. "Well, the rule is when the match participants are out of the ring, the referee is supposed to start counting to 10 and if he does, whoever is still outside of the ring is counted out and therefore loses the match, except for some times when they don't feel like it." It kind of makes sense if the ref is out there actively trying to get them back in the ring but if he's just standing there yelling at them or doing absolutely nothing at all then it's just dumb. It'd almost be like if an umpire at a baseball game decided that for one inning he wasn't going to call strikes, if they weren't swung at. I know it's not the same since pro wrestling is scripted but since that's the case it should be scripted that if the match participants are going to fight outside of the ring they make it back in before the count of ten.
Referee discretion happens most of the time in NJPW and those guys have 20 seconds time limit out of the ring, and NJPW is held to he the best wrestling out there by smarks.
@@yy-hj4br There 20 seconds is actually 20 though. WWEs 10 seconds is 30,.
@@BmanTheChamp There are plenty of sports where calls aren't made. Soccer is the biggest one where one team can have the advantage regardless of rules.
The big one with AEW is the way that all their tag matches break down and ref never does anything about it. Really annoys me. Tbh, AEW have a problem in general with too many distractions/run ins. The burying of refs and rules is probably the only thing on this list that they have in common
Honestly, this summarises the issue so well it hurts. It's everything I've been moaning about to my non-wrestling fan friends, when they ask why WWE IS getting shat on.
The main reason I was drawn to AEW in the first place wasn't even that it was new, it wasn't the new or mismanaged talent from elsewhere. I just wanted something which at least didn't seem like it hated the people that loved it.
"Hopefully Summerslam was good!"
Narrator: It was not.
Thank God CM Punk returned, he said so many times that Vince never gave the fans what they want and unfortunately it's still true.
And CM Punk didn't exactly do himself any favours in the end
This comment aged like milk
11:11 Me when Bianca got squashed by Becky Lynch in less than 30 seconds with just a punch and a Rock Bottom.
ah, I finally look forward to Sundays. I'm glad to have Adam back- his comeback was genuinely incredible
It’s interesting how many of these criticisms are the same ones many had for WCW when it started to decline. Even more ironic is that the documentary made by WWE “Monday night wars” had all of these criticisms in more detail.
After Punk’s insane return, can we have a list of the biggest pops? You can’t get much more positive than that.
My biggest problem with modern WWE: No one is allowed a unique character/gimmick
I loved seeing Cesaro in the main event slot. He deserved it...but would it be any different if Ricochet was in that spot? Or even Dominique? Not really. Sure the actual wrestling would, but you still wouldn't know who you're rooting for other than "The good guy." That's all they are. Generic by the numbers baby faces with no character to get invested in and that's because WWE doesn't care about characters. They know Goldberg, Stone Cold, The Rock, Cena all worked in the past but seems to have forgotten WHAT made them work. That's why when we do get characters we latch onto them. Eco-Heel Bryan or The Fiend or Tribal Chief Roman. They work because of the characters they played just as much as the stories and matches they were in. No one is allowed that anymore and the few exceptions are just that... exceptions
AEW has more star power now, its almost as IF Vince is PURPOSELY trying to devalue his OWN company.
He can't push stars over his product at the same time, it's like that weird philosophy from Japan about the Emperor declaring you can't serve god and the emperor at the same time and Vince took that to heart and made it his goal in life to make sure the product is only thing that gets over.
Even with Punk and Bryan idk if you can definitively say that, but they definitely have a heads up with the younger guys. The sheer amount of talent that they have under 25,let alone 30, is absolutely mind-boggling
So was the WCW, and WWE was the only wrestling company standing at the time. Let's hope we will have two major sustainable wrestling companies, I guess.
No it doesn't
I’ve never understood the obsession with ‘sports entertainment’ over wrestling. The company isn’t named World Sports Entertainment, it’s World Wrestling Entertainment. You can’t act like the word wrestling is illegal when it’s literally in the name of your company
WWE isnt wrestling. They've done everything in their power to tell you that. It's "super stars" doing "sports entertainment". If you're still disappointed in not getting good wrestling or good wrestling storylines that's on you. Stop tuning in and enjoy the endless amounts of wrestling from around the world. It's not hard to find and it's so much more fun.
Hell the DDT wrestling universe has better booking and much funnier then modern day WWE. Just recently they had a barbed wire deathmatch with the Atushi Onita.
You are the best Adam. Could literally watch these list videos all day, and I will!
Now that Punk is in AEW, and most of the best parts of WWE’s roster are too, I’ll be watching that instead
Allegedly, AEW is getting Bray Wyatt too, once his No-Compete Clause is up, which JUST so happens to end the day before Halloween...on a Friday...when Rampage comes on
This is my reality as well. The only bits of wwe I get are from UA-cam channels talking about it, and even then I don’t always want to watch
If they can manage to get Chad Gable I'll be stoked.
i havent watched wwe for about half a year now i gave up on it ever getting better i only watch aew and free matches of indy shows i can find on youtube
NXT is the only one I fully pay attention to
Hell of a time for this to come out after that shitshow last night.
“This is not a response to SummerSlam.”
(Looks at Becky vs Bianca)
“Are you sure about that?”
Well no, if it was a response to SummerSlam then one of the complaints on the list would HAVE to be "Barefacedly and unshamedly lying to the audience". Promoting Sasha as being in the match against Bianca _as late as during SummerSlam itself_ when they knew she wouldn't be cleared _a week in advance_ isn't "card subject to change". It's literal false advertising. "Card subject to change" is what you say when unexpected things can happen between when you promote a match and when it's supposed to happen. It's NOT what you say when you promise something you knew damn well you were never going to deliver but continue lying about it anyway!
@@ArcaneAzmadi WWE has a VERY long history of this kind of thing.
This is a really, really good video. Adam's reasons are well thought out tbh. Really resonates with me.
"We hope supperslam was good" oh Adam my sweet boy
And Goldberg is STILL unsafe in the ring! He's a disrespectful wrestler! He could have hurt Lashley after Lashley grinding all these years to finally reach where he is now. Ugh.
He took Bret Hart away because he is unsafe.
He thinks concussing himself by slamming his head into doors is badass. It's just ass.
Botchberg could put Deadpool on the shelf. It's almost impressive how terrible and unsafe he is.
There’s something about the professional wrestler/football player overlap that culminates in stiffer-than-your-dad’s-good-shirt workers.
Lookin’ at YOU, Bork.
I have a feeling "No you animate that ..." is the new "Sam, get back to work D*ickhead"
One way they disrespect us fans was shown at SummerSlam. Bianca Belair is the example. They literally give us no reason to emotionally invest into new stars because by the time they go to the main roster it’s game over. I don’t how Belair recovers from that embarrassment.
In regard to the releases, the 69 active wrestlers released in 2020/21 who have not returned to the company, is more than any WWE brand, roughly 50 on Raw, 38 on Smackdown, 50-60 each on NXT and NXTUK, and 4 'on 205 live'
Look at the arc of Hangman Adam Page in AEW. He's a guy who just needed friends to find his inner confidence. It has gone on for two years and AEW has let the storyline breathe. Hangman's arc has made him and The Dark Order into hugely popular faces beloved by the crowd.
AEW gives me the story and respects me. WWE doesn't.
Also the fact AEW doesn’t have monthly PPV’s gives everyone more time to develop said storylines
The thing that really pisses me off about WWE is the inconsistency in their booking / their booking standards as of late. I'd like to preface that I'm not siding with WWE or AEW, but what I want in my wrestling is the stories to make sense. WWE has really fallen off in the consistency in their booking and watching it in real time, you can actually see the product suffer from a tangible sense. Problem is, WWE can make the change and have people knowledgeable in the business and IMPROVE the current product, but they actively choose not to because they suffer from an addiction to nostalgia and celebrity acknowledgement. Sorry for the rant, I genuinely don't care about the WWE / AEW nonsense, I just want to see everyone improve, from the wrestlers all the way to the product. Only other gripe I have about current WWE is commentary and how they just don't explain certain moves / wrestler's actions and why wrestlers do what they do in a match because that hooks a person's interest and makes wrestling believable. Again, sorry for the rant everyone.
It’s fine we all have those
And yes the commentary needs work but as you know, Micromanaging Vince just CANNOT let go
Hence the MUCH maligned nickname Seth was given by Cole last night The Prince of Drip, yes a 75 year old man told a 52 year old man to call another man this
Live during a PPV
My thinking is if new promotions can come and one that have been around a while and do the job FAR better, you know WWE are not. THEY DONT CARE though do they.
@U Suck not entirely but theirs some truth to it
I’d like to believe the biggest idea was the desire to create another big American promotion geared towards old school and the newer school of fans
In many ways a modern version of ECW only replace the Hardcore style with Indy style of sorts
Mixed in with utilizing Japanese styles, Lucha, Grappling/amateur styles, etc
A melting pot of different cultures of wrestling that ECW was the original creator of
And giving them proper respect to their styles and NOT watering them down
In college I had a classmate who interned at WWE, and she confirmed they actually enhance or decrease crowd noise EVERY show. Not just the notable ones.
This is a company that consistently insults its fans' intelligence and gives zero fucks about their time or energy. It's an emotionless, soul-less corporate product at times. Well said mate
"Why he asked..." is a subtle dig at Simon Miller 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It's like they punish people for getting over organically
They absolutely do. Vince's fragile ego can't stand the fans not buying into his preferred stars being pushed. Look at how Roman and Daniel Bryan were handled in 2014-2015.
They *do* punish people for getting over organically. Just ask what's left of Zack Ryder.
In 1997, Vince Mcmahon mentioned the idea of the audience having their intelligence insulted. It's ironic that insulting the audience's intelligence, is exactly what he is doing.
It doesn't matter if WWE insults their fans cos they'll still watch wwe's ppv every month
"Vince's Brigade of Sweaty Charades"; we need a compilation of Adam's nicknames for WWE.
Yup a classic wwe move . If they cant get a good reaction they'll gladly take a bad reaction since any kind of reaction is still good enough for Vince.
Its such a bad business strategy. They spent years telling us that it's ok for cena and roman to get booed. Like, no it's not lol. The hero shouldn't get booed because it ruins the dynamic of the story. Imagine if the avengers were booed during endgame? The last top guys that were 100% over were Austin and rock.
@@JungleBunkRootsMusic2022 Honestly a big part of that is fans turning on wrestlers within 2 months once they reach the top. Like Becky Lynch for example
@@iliketrains3495 The fans turn on their favourites because there's a certain level where suddenly Vince has to change their character into his own, warped, version of what the top dog is supposed to act like, which is boring, played out, and not face behaviour in the slightest.
My biggest WWE dislike is what me and my friends call the "Negro leagues" if Vince doesn't have anything for black wrestlers to do he just puts them all in a match. I.E. the Big E v. Apollo Crews anthology we've endured.
I can't believe you didn't bring up Cryme Tyme
Let’s be honest, Vince probably calls it that too.
@@theoneandonlymichaelmccormick If we're being honest, let's be honest.... "negro" isn't the n-word that Vince probably uses.
Just watch AEW and literally everything else that isn’t WWE, you’re life will be a lot better and happier.
Micro managing the Royal Rumble is my biggest hatred. A match that by design is the most spontaneous of the year - so already the concept of multiple winners pisses me off - however, there should be legitimate random draws for the wrestlers, or at least make it appear random. Storytelling is one thing, but when Rumbles are booked in a way that deliberately favours only one individual winning, such as beatdowns to wrestlers who were thrown UNDER the top rope, all logic is thrown out the window. I could go on, but yeah, leave the Royal Rumble alone. It's best when it's spontaneous and FUN!!
My biggest for me is them constantly bitching about not having the star power to fill seats , but then constantly either releasing people or burying the rising star they do have because either one of three knobs up top don't like them aka Vince Nick Khan or John Lorn. Also once NXT is fully dead the only thing I am watching about wwe is the reviews , and it's not even because I want to hear about wwe it's because I enjoy listening to you guys talk if that was not a thing there would be not a smear it shred of WWE in my sight every again
THANK YOU! I needed it. Now I finally quit WWE. Screw summerslam, I dont even want to know the results. AEW AEW CM PUNK CM PUNK
"The rules matter except when they don't" perfectly sums up a ton of screwy finishes.
DQ's count as a win for the person who doesn't get DQ'd except when the match is Xavier Woods vs Roman Reigns.
This may be one of the top 3 best lists Adam's ever done and that's saying a LOT. I thought I would need to hear or make an hour-long rant to cover everything that was pissing me off about the WWE product and you guys hit probably 99% percent of the points with eloquent, hilarious accuracy in basically 11 minutes.
And the fact that it came out just hours after a SummerSlam event that basically encapsulated many of these issues is just... chef's kiss. 😙👌
I'd maybe add two things:
1.) The complete lack of focus on midcard belts.
Honestly, this has something that's gotten worse as time has gone on in WWE. In the 90s-early 2000s, the IC and US titles were a stepping stone to the main event. Now they're a glass ceiling. But the Kurt/Shane 2001 glass where people concuss themselves and almost die trying to force their way through it despite the fact that it wasn't supposed to be that difficult in the first place and is only that way because somebody in WWE's office fucked up. That's a big reason why they're still relying on 'legends' to pop crowd buys for big PPVs. They've taken one of the easiest and - at least following Wrestling logic - most natural pipelines for moving guys to the main event and just... clogged it. (And don't get me started on how they've done MITB.)
2.) Using backstage politics as an excuse for keeping people out of the main event.
I'm not saying wrestlers' backstage behavior doesn't or shouldn't matter - but you don't get to de-push talented people for minor offenses offscreen and then bitch later when you don't have the roster depth you'd like. Most fans probably don't read up enough to figure out why people just suddenly disappear off TV, but it contributes to the sameness of the product at the end of the day.
I already wasn’t really watching besides certain ppv’s, nxt, and Smackdown occasionally, but them ruining NXT was the final straw for me
Oh, Adam, we'll indulge you alright, almost all of us feel the same way, especially the question of, "Why do we care? What's the point?"
After watching the video, the top 3 are bang on the reasons why no one can get invested in WWE right now, even if they say they like it!
I liked SummerSlam. You won't catch me dead sitting through 3 hours of Raw weekly though. I stopped watching wrestling totally for a year and a half and just came back to it a month ago because my cable provider gave us Peacock for free and it sure as hell feels like I didn't miss anything.
@@rx98 You really didn't
Can I request an extended version of this video where it isn't edited or cut short in any way? We all vibe with you on this, Adam. We all agree. Please let us be angry with you for... 20 minutes.
Fantastic list, you guys. Just curious, do you think you guys might consider doing a top ten list of the best wrestling cities? After the explosive return pop for CM Punk in Chicago, I think it might be fun to look at what cities have historically had the best wrestling audiences.
For the number 10 spot, some people (and I believe one member of FTR even suspected this) are concluding that WWE sees Tag Teams as the closest thing to a union for which they want nothing to do with.
Adam Blampied still is the best Adam in wrestling!!!
Not even close.
One bad habit some fans have , is defending and supporting everything WWE does.
I’ve watched this multiple times because it’s just so therapeutic.