@@patrickterryjr4764 But in the context of this conversation it does, and that's the joke. It's a sad world we live in where something costing thrice as much as its competitor doesn't immediately indicate better performance.
I mean if you can afford it and you are already a gamer you should definitely go for the index. The quests library is very limited and to play the good games you need the oculus link anyways which turns it into a wired headset.
Those "out of play area" messages weren't coming from or related to the Quest's tracking system. It was coming from Vader Immortal itself because you were stepping outside of their 'safe zone' in the game. Bad way to handle that. It's annoying as hell, yes, but is not a reflection of the tracking.
@@xordus ?? I didn't mean Linus handled it bad. I mean that error message is a dumb way for the game to handle keeping you within the play area. I fought with that damn thing the first time I encountered it as well, trying to figure out where the fuck it wanted me to move to.
I'd like to see Linus revisit this when Oculus Link is out and see how that 'increases' the value of the Quest, being able to use this as a standalone wireless VR headset and also connected to your PC with one cable so you can play your Rift and SteamVR games.
This is the only reason why he accepted the idea from his team to create this video. More content for the future. Not a bad move - but a true shame that the device doesn't get the review it deserves - for the right reason. Quest will blow every VR headset he has currently purchased when it comes to future developments, price point, and freedom.
I think the best thing they could have done to make this device better, would be to make the panel compatible for at least 90hz or higher, but only run it at 72hz when it's in standalone mode. That feature alone would take this whole setup to the next level because it would make it really versatile, as a on-the-go VR set as well as a high perfect headset.
@@Obliveater95YT John Carmack actually answered that. They are technically capable of doing 90Hz right now, but it would break their FCC certification. So for the next generation they will make sure to certify at any possible refresh rate, but it's too late for the first gen quest :(
@unrepeatable raddish No, lower refresh rate causes more motion sickness. I own an Index and I can play that significantly longer because of the much higher refresh rate.
As a Quest owner and owner of the games that they were playing, I can tell you that things have improved a LOT since the version that these guys were using. I never have any stutters or lag, while playing. I love the system and I have a link cable with a nice VR computer, so that allows me to play PCVR with the Quest as a headset, which is also a great experience. I've had no regrets.
@@sutibn There is a USB-C cable that comes with it to charge it and to allow you to move files over from a pc or whatever you want to do. Back when the Link software first came out this cable wasn't fast enough to support using it for PCVR, so everyone had to buy fiber optic type cables, like the official link cable. They have been patching the Link software though and now they claim the cable that comes with the Quest will be good enough. I do see one downside though and that is that it's a much shorter cable. There are some non official cables that you can buy though that aren't as expensive as the official link cable that Oculus puts out, but are at least very long. So there are options for you.
The oculus link cable is great but if you have a 5ghz compatible wireless access point/router try using virtual desktop. It's literally the same thing as oculus link but wireless. Your welcome lol
@@OzzySafa I don't understand why choosing this instead of cv1 or S Tracking on the cv1 will be always better even over the S Of course there are many cables. Quest vs S More hz on the S and you will also have 1 cable on the quest with the link
@@OzzySafa That's fine. But even Oculus stated the Quest (w/ Link) will never deliver as good as an experience as the Rift S. Ppl that tried Link and are hyping it up seem to be ignoring Oculus' own stance on the issue. So if you mainly want PCVR - you;re gonna want a PCVR headset. If you're willing to give up some graphical fidelity, then the QUest tradeoffs might be good enough others.
Lorenzo Clara You’re right however it’s only a 8hz difference many of the new comers to VR won’t really notice this. The Blacks on the OLED will look nicer to say the least. For the people that want the best of both to dip their feet in without paying unreasonable price for the others, this is a great option.
if you live in a warehouse... i have good news for you, you can disable guardian sistem altogether and run widely on stadium size space. tracking will never end. the limits are only for the guardian system :)
LTT: "we are not going to clickbait anymore" LTT: "I was WRONG" EDIT: THE TITLE WAS JUST "I was WRONG" when i wrote this comment, they changed it about 1 hour after this comment
It’s lagging because you’re recording The lightsaber lags because the controllers have a different tracking rate then the screen (lower, but you can change it in the settings). Vader immortal didn’t really work since you walked out of the play space. Oculus link and sidequest exist to expand the library. Red Matter’s graphics exist
Paradox Shift Well still if you buy a $600 pc and a Rift S then altogether it would be around 1000 dollars and I think that a $600 pc would be a little jittery.
@@Beblue1337 hey we found the epic pc master rate i bet you run all your games 560hz. Am i right fuck these guys that cant afford shit with higher than 72hz get yo ass outta here heres a question do you have any irl friends? And if you do theh use you for momey right because your a prick
Tbh nah it's annoying you cant buy stuff used I get most PS4 games used later when it's like 20$ or less. But I do understand 30$ for a lot of people isn't absurd though. It also depends cause a lot of VR games are very short compared to full retail console or pc games etc so "worth it" is debatable per person.
Riley's really come into his own as far as being able to push up against some of Linus's ideas, "[maybe it's 'cause you're recording]" is most excellent. Keep it up, Riley. A high tide raises all ships, and a high tide at LTT is having some fight in ya spirit.
I'd say that's a perfectly logical remark to make given the hardware. Too bad they didn't go the also logical extra mile of actually disabling the recording and comparing the results.
the warnings in Vader immortal were there because you were putting you head through geometry. also yes there is more of a stutter in games when you are recording video at the same time.
This happened to me in episode 2 when I was stuck under the map (while climbing) it was really confusing with no way to fix it other than quit and start the chapter again. Fine for me but new players really can't handle that frustration.
It seems like it was handled really poorly. They should give you a wireframe of the scene so you can navigate back into the correct space instead of arrows which might be confusing. Alternatively there should be a button that returns you to the last correct position.
How cool would it be if there was a game where you could play with another person in real life and have a lightsaber duel while seeing the real world but having a saber
Gonna go with the Quest for now and get a better one when the next generation comes in. Cheaper, heavier, and smaller library, but I’m down to make that compromise if we’re at the end of the current generation.
12:15 Linus: "Am I outside of my safe space?" I know life can be tough at times Linus. We all got a need for a place where we can truely express ourselves and be the special human being each and every one of us is.
Wooow, you made fun of someone for having a seizure (I made this comment sarcastically, i got the joke. If someone says i didnt get the joke somehow, woooosh them.)
maybe he should get one that fits. he always wears one thats too small for him. i wouldnt be interested in buying one anyway, but if i were that would put me off it. it looks very uncomfortable. i need jersey's and t shirts to be a bit longer and baggier than that.
Hey linus, computer vision engineer here, its not the space that matters tracking to work, but rather the texture. Its going to perform badly in a situation where there are no objects and everything is same color. It tries to "detect definitive locations" on the room and handling tracking through those points. We call this keypoint detection, it is a very robust, very powerful and efficienct technique. It is also important to have keypoints that are visible anywhere on the room for this to work accurately, for example, if your wall has a painting or a definitive, unique texture, that is insanely helpful for the quality of the tracking. And this will only improve over time, there are alot of advanced methods we have that can provide milimeter accurate tracking (so precise that we can literally measure your heart beat speed from little movements of your body) using only cameras but those require a bit too much computation right now.
can you make a video detailing what helps the tracking in more layman terms? Like, if I take a few cardboard boxes, color them pure black and throw them around the room, would that help? Why? What about lights? I have dimmed lights in my room. Does lack of bright light affect tracking? What if I turn off all lights in room and make it all dark? This would be super helpful for all who have this type of tracking devices.
@@Muhanoid Uniqueness is the key here, having multiple black cardboxes can actually hurt the performance since the tracker may confuse black cardboxes with each other (actuallly, if something is not unique, tracker is more likely to ignore it completely to avoid confusion). I would say having pictures , doesnt matter what, on your walls are very important in this case, they are visible almost always, they are very unique (assuming you dont have same picture in multiple locations), they make the perfect features. Light levels should be enough for camera's to be able to produce clear image, it very much depends on the camera's used in headset rather than actual algorithm. But i heard quest's cameras perform good on dim light.
@@astronemir Exactly, also repeated patterns are basically useless. A simple way to know what would make a good keypoint is basically assuming that you randomly zoom into 30x30 pixel region from an image, can you recognize where it was on the original image? Corner of a image for example would be very recognizable, but a repeated texture on carpet would not be very easily recognizable (since there are too many "potential" locations for a repeated texture).
@@Muhanoid Hard contrast changes help a lot for any type of tracking. Bland surfaces with little to no change are a pain, any random object that stands out will greatly help, say a dark object in a white background. Though I'm only assuming as I've only dealt with motion tracking in 3D software, but the basic idea should be the same for the Oculus here.
@@anthonymaslousky8400 they have the same or slightly better statistics against the quest, but the quest runs off of its own processor and has lower refresh rate, depending on what you're trying to do, the quest can be better than either those.
There’s a video (I don’t remember which) where he talks about going through the script. Cue B-roll showing the part of the script talking about going through the script (and showing b roll of the script).
Hey! Looking for some real person review, what are your final thoughts on owning one? Worth the $400? I really want to get one but I don’t want to get something that I don’t use very often
AkTon I bought the Oculus after being introduced to it by a friend, I definitely think it’s worth I just don’t use it as much because I’ve gotten a bunch of other gaming devices recently but I definitely think its worth it. The only thing I don’t like about it is that it’s a little heavy in the front but other than that it’s fine, I got used to it being a little heavy in the front and now don’t feel it. Most of the games you can buy for it are under $30 and the selection of games is great, you can also get games that aren’t out yet or custom songs for beat saber using your laptop or computer on side quest. (it’s a thing you can download I don’t use it much though) so yeah, I definitely think it’s worth it. I really just use the quest for beatsaber and job simulator but there are a ton of other games too.
@@akton6157 The Quest is in back order and out of stock, you might as well get it while it goes back in stock instead of buying it later because it will take about a month or less to get it after purchasing
@@danielyates3107 In November they'll launch a Software update that will allow you to stream PCVR on your Quest via USB-C cable. (Most USB-C cables will work, but Oculus will release a special one later this year) They also announced a Software update for early 2020 which will enable handtracking via the Quest cameras. There were a few more interesting announcements but those two were the most important ones
@@sqlevoliciousWhat do you do when you see a review for a product you own and you're interested in whether or not the guy likes it, but not interested enough to actually watch the video? You take a look at the comments. Are your feelings hurt?
vijil bringing them over and basically offering the “upgrade” for free until the end of the year. I literally ordered a Quest today after all that news, they made it must-own.
@@hoen2009 The problem is that Quest draws the same kind of fanboyism that consoles do. There is a cognitive bias that happens when you get these people who are either too poor or too lazy to build/buy a gaming PC capable of the superior experience that PCVR brings on higher fidelity HMDs. They get irrationally defensive when people attack their Quest because deep down they are insecure about the fact that they are possibly missing out on a greater experience if they spent more on a powerful PC. The Quest is still cool though. However, the Rift S is just straight up better in every aspect outside of portability.
My gf gave me the Quest as a gift on my bday last week and i was like why did you spend your savings on a VR for me! but oh boy i was so wrong me & my gf have played it almost everyday for about 1-2hrs daily in the last week & we love it. No wires made it so simple to play in my living room. I have a rtx 2080 build pc in my room but i do not have a enough space to play there but if the oculus link cord is large enough i thing this is the best thing my gf to have gifted me this year! Worth the Price & Experience.
My son got this for X-mas from his girlfriend. I was never one to play video games until THIS magical ocular personal Disneyland came along. This thing is amazing! I’m totally hooked!
Note to the editors: Loving the added music bits, not 100% when you started adding them more and more, but very satisfying in this video specifically. Specifically in the beginning, not too much not too little just enough.
@@burnzy3210 just use Danny Byrd's "Put Your Hands Up". Has the same vibe and I know it's a good alternative because I go crazy with my driving on Horizon 3 everytime that song comes on.
@@OfficialDJSoru I agree, I love that song too. Was very surprised to hear a song like that on LTT. It sounds very similar to something you'd find on hospital records or UKF. Shame it's so obscure
That sounds like a "you" problem, but welcome to the VR world. There's lots to enjoy and many things to experience :) Once you go VR it's hard to go back. No joke.
Already said it in another comment, but I'll say it again here. Luke's and Linus' comments have been taken out of context time and time again. Hell Linus even mentions in this video the point they were original trying to make. Seriously, LTT gets so much hate in stuff like VR focused subreddits over misconstrued comments.
i'd like to thank Riley for reviewing this headset. i remember a wan show where linus was like nah i don't wanna review it. and riley was like but i wanna do it! and linus said ok.. thanks riley also, nice editing
I’m really interested in seeing how Portable VR headsets improve I really like the idea of just pulling it out of a backpack, Turning it on, Quick scan of the room and you’re done So much better then having all these wires and time setting up cameras and plugging in wire after wire.
Quality VR is worth doing a one time setup for a camera, but if the quest gets more casual people into the VR market than I'm still really happy it exists.
That whole discussion about VR is basically the equivalent of a bunch of people standing round the seedling of a tree and staring at it waiting for it to grow. Player 1: "Sorry dude, I think it's dead." Player 2: "What do you mean it's dead? Is nice and green. Getting plenty of sun. Looks fine." Player 1: "But it's tiny and it's not moving. Where are the fruit?" Player 2: "It's gotten 300% bigger than the last time we measured it, and the time before that. It's actually growing incredibly quickly, but these things just take time." Player 1: "Eh. I've never paid attention to any actual measurements myself, but a youtuber told me it was dead so I took their word for it." Meanwhile in the background there's a forest of trees labbeled, gaming, television, mobile phones, powered flight, the combustion engine, gunpowder, agriculture, etc. A classic case of the old saying, "Can't see the forest for the trees" in my opinion.
@@UnknownSquid All those other trees in the aforementioned forest started out as seedlings too. For example, there was a time when some people were like "meh, I don't need a smartphone, I have my Nokia brick phone and a PDA right here" or even "Payphones are everywhere, I don't need a mobile phone", and now it's like "You don't have a smartphone?", also, televisions were black and white and very small at one point, now we've got like, 80 inch 8k TVs. If people had just went "Meh, television's only in black and white, it's dead" and nobody showed interest in it, I don't think we'd be where we were now with TVs. Video games were 2D color blocks at one point, now they're becoming borderline photorealistic. All of these seedlings became wonderful trees because people took care of them when they were young, and the same applies to VR. Any plant will die if not properly cared for, so when you see a bunch of people crowding around that seedling saying "just wait", it's because we see what it will be, not what it is currently, but there's people going "meh, cut it down and uproot the remains from the ground, it didn't instantly turn into a tree fast enough for me." VR enthusiasts aren't blind, we _know_ there's a forest behind it and we also know it doesn't invalidate the forest existing because of this one sapling, it's just a rare opportunity to see a piece of said forest form and we wanna see that to completion, knowing what came of the other saplings that comprise that forest. Player 2 is visualizing how beautiful of a tree it will be in due time, Player 1 is going "I've only ever seen fully grown trees so I don't care for the process that goes into creating more".
VR is such a small market right now that we're only now starting to have distinctions in prices. He doesn't care for prices, he looks at pros and cons and specs, that's it. If he sees something good he'll point it out, and vice versa
@Sherrif your really gonna point that out i thought people sorted this out during the valve index review why would h buy it to review it when oculus told him they would send him the headset? he's not gonna use it he has an even better gaming rig now plus a valve index
I feel like the frame rate issues has to do with casting/recording while playing. I don't ever really have that issue with my Quest. Or maybe I'm just not as sensitive to it. I'd be interested to hear Linus's thoughts after playing some without casting/recording the screen.
The quest is a game changer. I have a buddy with one and after trying it, yeah, 100% the none tethered experience is where it is at. The quality of the graphics and the display really is secondary to the experience and the portability. Apparently oculus is preparing an update so you can tether the Quest to a gaming PC if you want to. But I think the fully mobile experience is the future of VR.
Be aware that that is just streaming over usb3, it won't be a good experience for most people. Some people might be able to handle it if they are used to something like PSVR of google cardboard. Or for the delusional lead-stomach'd people that use ALVR. The future of VR has many places, both high-end attached to a high-end processing power and mobile VR/AR.
@@sqlevolicious I tried it and a bunch of my friends have tried it too. It isn't as smooth as a better headset, but the tracking and the framerate aren't problems. They just aren't strengths either. I have never felt sick.
When it comes to low-budget stuff, it really is the experience that's important. That's Apple's deal with the 11, that's Oculus' idea with this, and it really should be the case with everything honestly. Provide the best experience possible, whether or not that means matching numbers or meeting certain expectations, in this case the graphics quality or resolution. Shoot, it's why PC gaming (and slowly but surely console gaming) has been so focused on frame rate. A great frame rate leads to a more enjoyable experience than a great resolution or great graphics setting. Great frame rate with a good enough graphics experience is ssooo much more enjoyable.
not for me... the wire doesnt bother me. id take that and a higher refresh rate, sharper graphics, more complex graphics, better physics and no motion sickness any day of the week. i can see why the quest is so popular though, its damn good at what it does, its just not for me.
I know I dont know wtf he was talking about, it's never been laggy or stuttery for me and when I use virtual desktop ir oculus link cable it performs even better than my rift and the HTC vive
@@thedonzo You gotta consider how long ago this video was, the Quest was still really good, but his experience definitely isn't to be dismissed because today's Quest became really good, as for the past couple of months even, it's improved a lot. Also in terms of the video, it's going to be useless to look at the footage even if you're watching it at 60fps, because I imagine he'd feel it was a bit more stuttery than what's at least he's used to which is the Index. That's more of a testament to his VR experiences and not how stuttery the Quest WILL feel for most people who buy it.
@@jinsory5582 I do when he made this video is when the oculus link beta dropped and all those things im saying came out lol. That being said it was all fresh but as a tech guy I would have assumed he would be on top of that stuff. Its my job to keep up with the latest technology and its linus's job as well so yeah...no hate just a huge oversight on his part.
I dont think I have ever commented on Tech Tips videos (in fife years of watching) but now I have to say that this video was refreshing change! I think this consept is really well implemented, and editing is getting better by the day. Not just "cool" effects but actually funny and well made edits. Filming, reviewing and Linus + Riley combo seems to work well. More videos like these please! (if it fits for the product) everything can't be reviewed like this ofc.
@@bingus5775 okay boomer??? I'm 23 and you should be taking church seriously. Your entire eternity relies on you accepting the free gift of salvation. Jesus died for you and you don't even seem to really care that much.
“35 DOLLARS! That’s insane”.
Linus you are selling a water bottle, for 30 freakin dollars.
You can’t complain.
$30 water bottle isn’t that bad, the $50 for 3 underwear and $90 jacket is bad
Chris Hornak 💪🏿
90$ FOR A HOODIE, GET IT NOW
No water bottles are not the expensive one it’s the underwear and the jacket
35$ for a game is pretty normal even lower then many new releases which is 50$ - 60$
"ThE InDeX Is BeTtEr!" Well it should be for nearly three times the price.
Expensive doesn't always equal better
@@celesware It should, and often does.
Currency is just putting numbers to value, bigger numbers should mean more value.
Bob Woggle Just because it SHOULD doesn’t always mean it does
@@patrickterryjr4764 But in the context of this conversation it does, and that's the joke.
It's a sad world we live in where something costing thrice as much as its competitor doesn't immediately indicate better performance.
@@celesware csgos m249
There’s a guy at my school who goes to the library to play his quest everyday, I respect that guy
Edit: we became friends
Does he play Beat Saber though?
Eclogites by the looks of his arm movements and The sound yes
Alex Burton from where?
Alex Burton it’s cool man, happens
Kwinten me too, looks like he’s playing beatsaber
Linus:”$35 for a game, WTH”
Also Linus-sells $50 underwear
Ikr
@Shahbaz Amin when will people realize that other people can have the same ideas as others
llama logic never I think lol btw a question do u have the quest
@Pixility yes
Pixility I do
Linus: "You called me a snob."
Riley: "YOU wrote that in the script."
Is that also part of the script? Wait..
Scriptception
13:39
... Are you part of the script?
Ah, I see you're finally awake!
They actually fixed almost all those problems, AND released hand tracking early
Yeah, I agree.
The only problem I've had with mine is if I move my head to fast whilst making the guardian then it gets a bit weird and jittery.
Cool I might get it next year
Just wondering, but is minecraft vr on the quest
@@Broment502 It's only for other headsets. But the Oculus Link might allow the quest to run it I don't know for sure.
@@Broment502 You can play it on the Quest in various ways but there is no official release for the Quest.
im watching this in the quest
I rate that
r/madlads
I would be but im too lazy to get up and get my quest
Lol
Wait.... you can’t comment in the quest....
Are we forgetting that the index is like a grand and this you don’t even need a pc
I have a high end PC that is $1300, but I still desire to get this with the new link capabilities.
(unless you want to play vr games that weren't included)
I mean if you can afford it and you are already a gamer you should definitely go for the index. The quests library is very limited and to play the good games you need the oculus link anyways which turns it into a wired headset.
You can use virtual desktop to play steam wireless in the quest no link needed
Poogby it just came out and they are working on it
linus: it's quite choppy and it lags a lot.
riley: it's probably cause we're recording and it's running on a phone processor...
Those "out of play area" messages weren't coming from or related to the Quest's tracking system. It was coming from Vader Immortal itself because you were stepping outside of their 'safe zone' in the game. Bad way to handle that. It's annoying as hell, yes, but is not a reflection of the tracking.
yep, it was really stupid. it was like watching an old person who can't figure out why the remote isn't working
@@xordus ?? I didn't mean Linus handled it bad. I mean that error message is a dumb way for the game to handle keeping you within the play area. I fought with that damn thing the first time I encountered it as well, trying to figure out where the fuck it wanted me to move to.
If you are too close to other characters or objects it gives you that error. Its really annoying
Seriously, fuck that Vader guardian. It's about the shittiest way they could have handled it.
Just hold the Oculus Button to recenter and you're good.
Linus: VR IS DEAD!
Everyone: no it’s not
*later*
Linus: VR isn’t dead actually
Everyone: oh really?
pretty much nailed it
Reee
No one sim races or flight sims without VR. Where is he coming from?
Even FPS is getting massive in VR.
@@kennethlarsen5949 not sure if fps is as big as the race/flight sim but
"We've been talking about how VR is dead"
Me: yep, I don't think I'm watching the right channel
Anyone who says vr is dead is sorely mistaken, And missing out tbh especially with the quest 2 out now.
@@SomehowScott ok and my point still stands so?
I'd like to see Linus revisit this when Oculus Link is out and see how that 'increases' the value of the Quest, being able to use this as a standalone wireless VR headset and also connected to your PC with one cable so you can play your Rift and SteamVR games.
This is the only reason why he accepted the idea from his team to create this video. More content for the future. Not a bad move - but a true shame that the device doesn't get the review it deserves - for the right reason. Quest will blow every VR headset he has currently purchased when it comes to future developments, price point, and freedom.
I think the best thing they could have done to make this device better, would be to make the panel compatible for at least 90hz or higher, but only run it at 72hz when it's in standalone mode. That feature alone would take this whole setup to the next level because it would make it really versatile, as a on-the-go VR set as well as a high perfect headset.
@@Obliveater95YT John Carmack actually answered that. They are technically capable of doing 90Hz right now, but it would break their FCC certification. So for the next generation they will make sure to certify at any possible refresh rate, but it's too late for the first gen quest :(
You need a cable. It needs to be wireless.
@unrepeatable raddish No, lower refresh rate causes more motion sickness. I own an Index and I can play that significantly longer because of the much higher refresh rate.
"you were calling me a snob earlier"
"You wrote that in the script!"
Linus has a humiliation kink
"There's guns and you shoot the bullets away from you" - Don't you dare change Riley
who
me
Riley Graham yes you
As a Quest owner and owner of the games that they were playing, I can tell you that things have improved a LOT since the version that these guys were using. I never have any stutters or lag, while playing. I love the system and I have a link cable with a nice VR computer, so that allows me to play PCVR with the Quest as a headset, which is also a great experience. I've had no regrets.
What cable are you using for Oculus Link?
I'm using the Official Oculus Link cable. It's great, if you have the money for it.
@@sutibn There is a USB-C cable that comes with it to charge it and to allow you to move files over from a pc or whatever you want to do. Back when the Link software first came out this cable wasn't fast enough to support using it for PCVR, so everyone had to buy fiber optic type cables, like the official link cable.
They have been patching the Link software though and now they claim the cable that comes with the Quest will be good enough. I do see one downside though and that is that it's a much shorter cable. There are some non official cables that you can buy though that aren't as expensive as the official link cable that Oculus puts out, but are at least very long. So there are options for you.
The oculus link cable is great but if you have a 5ghz compatible wireless access point/router try using virtual desktop. It's literally the same thing as oculus link but wireless. Your welcome lol
So if you have the link cable that allows you to play steam VR games? sorry im kinda confused, ive never owned or even played VR before.
When Oculus Link comes out there needs to be a part 2 to this video.
It's still going to offer the least of the headset, especially when compared to PCVR proper headsets
@@meowmix705A lot of people will still be willing to choose it over any other for the price. It'll always improve during and after the beta for sure.
@@OzzySafa I don't understand why choosing this instead of cv1 or S
Tracking on the cv1 will be always better even over the S
Of course there are many cables.
Quest vs S
More hz on the S and you will also have 1 cable on the quest with the link
@@OzzySafa That's fine. But even Oculus stated the Quest (w/ Link) will never deliver as good as an experience as the Rift S. Ppl that tried Link and are hyping it up seem to be ignoring Oculus' own stance on the issue.
So if you mainly want PCVR - you;re gonna want a PCVR headset.
If you're willing to give up some graphical fidelity, then the QUest tradeoffs might be good enough others.
Lorenzo Clara You’re right however it’s only a 8hz difference many of the new comers to VR won’t really notice this. The Blacks on the OLED will look nicer to say the least. For the people that want the best of both to dip their feet in without paying unreasonable price for the others, this is a great option.
"Unless you live in a giant warehouse..."
Dammit!
if you live in a warehouse... i have good news for you, you can disable guardian sistem altogether and run widely on stadium size space. tracking will never end. the limits are only for the guardian system :)
sorry my warehouse is full of dead bodies...
@@Shoniforce this is good advice, but I think you missed the joke
Tried it in a empty factory and yes it just works at 10x10. Found myself running forward in beatsabre and robo recall. Truly amazing
@@olivercummins9179 I'd like to try that, but I'm afraid I'd crash into a wall eventually.
LTT: "we are not going to clickbait anymore"
LTT: "I was WRONG"
EDIT: THE TITLE WAS JUST "I was WRONG" when i wrote this comment, they changed it about 1 hour after this comment
basically the channel
came here for this one lol
Breaking their own promises.
hit the dislike! hehe
Yeah, I've been around since early ncix days, but this is just blatant dishonesty, and low effort. What hot trash.
It’s lagging because you’re recording
The lightsaber lags because the controllers have a different tracking rate then the screen (lower, but you can change it in the settings).
Vader immortal didn’t really work since you walked out of the play space.
Oculus link and sidequest exist to expand the library.
Red Matter’s graphics exist
Red matters?
@@vclyxy7400 a game
And you have made this a good review
Oculus: "We've removed the need for a $3000 PC or any wires by making it all run on a phone in the headset."
Linus: "BuT tHe GrApHiCs..."
LMAO he do be like that tho
Mazxj Stripes But the graphics looks good especially what it’s running on.
In fairness, VR runs fine on a ~$600 PC. Not disagreeing, but 3k is a stretch lol.
Paradox Shift
Well still if you buy a $600 pc and a Rift S then altogether it would be around 1000 dollars and I think that a $600 pc would be a little jittery.
@@mrdaddu3852 It wouldn't though. As I said, VR runs fine on said hardware...
"Im experiencing some stutteriness" whilst the thing is live streaming at the same time with one of the most graphically intense games
No this is what happens when you're used to higher refresh rate than crappy 2008 refresh rate
@@aaronspurlock2294 rift s has a shit refresh rate
Yes, when you stop streaming it works seamlessly.
@@aaronspurlock2294 No, I'm not poor enough to buy an oculus
@@Beblue1337 hey we found the epic pc master rate i bet you run all your games 560hz. Am i right fuck these guys that cant afford shit with higher than 72hz get yo ass outta here heres a question do you have any irl friends? And if you do theh use you for momey right because your a prick
The quest was my first vr experience and I instantly fell in love with it. It was so weird tricking my brain into thinking I was actually there.
got the quest 2 days ago...
lets just say i caught myself attemting to teleport to the fridge IRL...
its a good VR headset
I was gonna like this but bro its at 69
35$ For A Game? _”tHAtS INsAnE”_
(Says the person selling items with less value for a higher price)
Btw, 35$ for a game is nothing.
Usually there are games that cost like... $100
Pi’Stas’io exactly. They are so biased with this review. The average console game is like $45
Yeah games are now like 60 dollars
Tbh nah it's annoying you cant buy stuff used I get most PS4 games used later when it's like 20$ or less. But I do understand 30$ for a lot of people isn't absurd though. It also depends cause a lot of VR games are very short compared to full retail console or pc games etc so "worth it" is debatable per person.
I spent that on my computer
Riley's really come into his own as far as being able to push up against some of Linus's ideas, "[maybe it's 'cause you're recording]" is most excellent. Keep it up, Riley. A high tide raises all ships, and a high tide at LTT is having some fight in ya spirit.
I'd say that's a perfectly logical remark to make given the hardware. Too bad they didn't go the also logical extra mile of actually disabling the recording and comparing the results.
the warnings in Vader immortal were there because you were putting you head through geometry.
also yes there is more of a stutter in games when you are recording video at the same time.
This happened to me in episode 2 when I was stuck under the map (while climbing) it was really confusing with no way to fix it other than quit and start the chapter again. Fine for me but new players really can't handle that frustration.
It seems like it was handled really poorly. They should give you a wireframe of the scene so you can navigate back into the correct space instead of arrows which might be confusing. Alternatively there should be a button that returns you to the last correct position.
@@Rrrrry123 that sounds like a feature
@L didnt work it kept resetting me under the floor
Riley: Linus it's over I have the high ground
Linus : You underestimate my sponsors
How does the story end?
I’ll tell you how the story ends, speaking of stories our sponsor...
xD
Linus: for the lower class people
Me who still can’t even afford the quest
But its a cheap vr headset well in the vr gaming district
roblox lover 123 ! And a pretty good one
Lahan & Darrah because when you reply it doesn’t automatically add @ it only adds the name
Coolest headset but not the cheapest of all.
Lahan & Darrah Yea Ik you can see it before edit.
How cool would it be if there was a game where you could play with another person in real life and have a lightsaber duel while seeing the real world but having a saber
PhilSwift Here thats a awesome idea
i was actually just talking to my friend about that
You could also buy plastic light sabers and do it in real life 😄
ilovesparky13 I’ve already done that
There is an experience right now
New title will be I was WRONG - Oculus Quest Review
YOU WERE RIGHT
Matti Väisänen told you
what was the original title?
It happened
SuperCoolDude VeryCool “I was WRONG”
Actually Riley just tried to murder his boss with lightsaber, and when it failed, it is always good idea to turn it into a joke
Riley :My plans will not be foiled!!
*When Linus first puts on headset*
Riley: he’s in, he’s inside! *goes and attempt murder again*
Why does he have a rainbow Linus symbol near his amp
6+ month membership. But now it is probably gone, had to cancel it
Little does Linus know that 2020 is when even MORE people will want a vr headset
Yes
Reverb and Quest 2 are going to blow up way more than Gen 1.
whos here looking for vr options ahead of half-life: alyx release?
God dammit I’m so poor
Gonna go with the Quest for now and get a better one when the next generation comes in. Cheaper, heavier, and smaller library, but I’m down to make that compromise if we’re at the end of the current generation.
Same!
Literally yes
You, sir, understand me.
12:15 Linus: "Am I outside of my safe space?" I know life can be tough at times Linus. We all got a need for a place where we can truely express ourselves and be the special human being each and every one of us is.
"is this what it feels like to socialize?"
The strip club
Next video: How to water cool a VR headset.
That's technically a thing already lol
@@SollithGaming holy shit what. I need to see this
More like "How to water cool yourself in VR"
i use to slap an ice pack on my s7 for gear VR ,does the job
VR is useless without vibration but it's too complex problem for developers than just fooling the eyes 👀
9:45 my brother loved that part so much he started dancing on the floor
Wooow, you made fun of someone for having a seizure
(I made this comment sarcastically, i got the joke. If someone says i didnt get the joke somehow, woooosh them.)
@@Simplisti. you didnt get the joke.
@@vwertix1662 i hope you got my joke. If not, in that case, r/woooosh.
@@Simplisti. r/woooosh
@@vwertix1662 r/facepalm, you didnt read my comment as i said i HOPE you got the joke, never stating you didnt or did get my joke.
Normal people: Wear a jacket when it's cold.
Linus: *Wears a jacket when it's warm so that he can remove it and tell us where to buy it from*
It's big brain time
maybe he should get one that fits. he always wears one thats too small for him. i wouldnt be interested in buying one anyway, but if i were that would put me off it. it looks very uncomfortable. i need jersey's and t shirts to be a bit longer and baggier than that.
At the time of writing it isn't even in stock
@@plenjamin lol
I guess Linus wore it because man’s not hot.
Hey linus, computer vision engineer here, its not the space that matters tracking to work, but rather the texture. Its going to perform badly in a situation where there are no objects and everything is same color. It tries to "detect definitive locations" on the room and handling tracking through those points. We call this keypoint detection, it is a very robust, very powerful and efficienct technique.
It is also important to have keypoints that are visible anywhere on the room for this to work accurately, for example, if your wall has a painting or a definitive, unique texture, that is insanely helpful for the quality of the tracking.
And this will only improve over time, there are alot of advanced methods we have that can provide milimeter accurate tracking (so precise that we can literally measure your heart beat speed from little movements of your body) using only cameras but those require a bit too much computation right now.
can you make a video detailing what helps the tracking in more layman terms? Like, if I take a few cardboard boxes, color them pure black and throw them around the room, would that help? Why?
What about lights? I have dimmed lights in my room. Does lack of bright light affect tracking? What if I turn off all lights in room and make it all dark?
This would be super helpful for all who have this type of tracking devices.
@@Muhanoid Uniqueness is the key here, having multiple black cardboxes can actually hurt the performance since the tracker may confuse black cardboxes with each other (actuallly, if something is not unique, tracker is more likely to ignore it completely to avoid confusion).
I would say having pictures , doesnt matter what, on your walls are very important in this case, they are visible almost always, they are very unique (assuming you dont have same picture in multiple locations), they make the perfect features.
Light levels should be enough for camera's to be able to produce clear image, it very much depends on the camera's used in headset rather than actual algorithm. But i heard quest's cameras perform good on dim light.
So I should put up carpets/paintings with very distinct patterns up to help it track better?
@@astronemir Exactly, also repeated patterns are basically useless.
A simple way to know what would make a good keypoint is basically assuming that you randomly zoom into 30x30 pixel region from an image, can you recognize where it was on the original image? Corner of a image for example would be very recognizable, but a repeated texture on carpet would not be very easily recognizable (since there are too many "potential" locations for a repeated texture).
@@Muhanoid Hard contrast changes help a lot for any type of tracking.
Bland surfaces with little to no change are a pain, any random object that stands out will greatly help, say a dark object in a white background.
Though I'm only assuming as I've only dealt with motion tracking in 3D software, but the basic idea should be the same for the Oculus here.
Zucc: "Full range of motion hand sensing coming to quest next year"
Linus: "There's a slight stutter though..."
i wanna like but it has 69 likes and i can't break the code
Watching him play Vader immortal, he was so whinny, and difficult. I have less trouble navigating my mentally challenge niece through the same game.
Yeah, he was very whinny
9:43
Unironically some 10/10 editing work there.
This is the most negative Oculus quest review I've ever seen
And that says alot
Ayrton Coetzee quest is a joke lol
@@anthonymaslousky8400 idk I think it's pretty damn good
@@anthonymaslousky8400 the link cable will make quest better than rift S
Skullcat2212 facts but vive and index are still better imo.
@@anthonymaslousky8400 they have the same or slightly better statistics against the quest, but the quest runs off of its own processor and has lower refresh rate, depending on what you're trying to do, the quest can be better than either those.
"You wrote that into the script!"
Also part of the script? 🤔
Meta
There’s a video (I don’t remember which) where he talks about going through the script. Cue B-roll showing the part of the script talking about going through the script (and showing b roll of the script).
this is too meta
as someone else already said here somewhere: 'scriptception'
I have no idea why I keep watching oculus quest reviews when I already got my oculus quest-
Just - Risa I just ordered one hope it’s worth the hype 🤔shut in with nowhere to go imma try it out
Hey! Looking for some real person review, what are your final thoughts on owning one? Worth the $400? I really want to get one but I don’t want to get something that I don’t use very often
AkTon I bought the Oculus after being introduced to it by a friend, I definitely think it’s worth I just don’t use it as much because I’ve gotten a bunch of other gaming devices recently but I definitely think its worth it. The only thing I don’t like about it is that it’s a little heavy in the front but other than that it’s fine, I got used to it being a little heavy in the front and now don’t feel it. Most of the games you can buy for it are under $30 and the selection of games is great, you can also get games that aren’t out yet or custom songs for beat saber using your laptop or computer on side quest. (it’s a thing you can download I don’t use it much though) so yeah, I definitely think it’s worth it. I really just use the quest for beatsaber and job simulator but there are a ton of other games too.
Just - Risa hey thanks for the info! Depending on how board I get during this Quarantine shit I might just say fuck it and go for it
@@akton6157 The Quest is in back order and out of stock, you might as well get it while it goes back in stock instead of buying it later because it will take about a month or less to get it after purchasing
Linus: "of the entire galaxy or just-"
Riley: "my disappointment is immeasurable"
Me : "and my day is ruined" 3:18
That killed me.
was that a Destiny reference?
@@DrearyEagle Review Brah reference
LTT: waits 4 months to review the Quest
Oculus: *drops insanely cool new features after LTT finishes their review*
Haven't used my Quest or checked for any Quest-related news in a couple weeks. What's new?
I've honestly just been waiting for Nostos to come out.
@@danielyates3107 In November they'll launch a Software update that will allow you to stream PCVR on your Quest via USB-C cable. (Most USB-C cables will work, but Oculus will release a special one later this year)
They also announced a Software update for early 2020 which will enable handtracking via the Quest cameras.
There were a few more interesting announcements but those two were the most important ones
@@danielyates3107 Did you just reply to a comment and not even watch the video? Who does that?
@@sqlevoliciousWhat do you do when you see a review for a product you own and you're interested in whether or not the guy likes it, but not interested enough to actually watch the video? You take a look at the comments. Are your feelings hurt?
vijil bringing them over and basically offering the “upgrade” for free until the end of the year. I literally ordered a Quest today after all that news, they made it must-own.
Wow, this review is so biased. Linus didn’t even give Star Wars a chance. Don’t listen to this, the Quest is amazing.
Valvman888 He certainly did give it a chance and it clearly didn’t work well lol
James76931 all he had to do was walk out of the character lol not that hard. He was acting like a moron intentionally.
It was a pretty goddamn honest positive review, what are you on about? Being wireless and all has some advantages and disadvantages.
I have it and it is really good in my opinion
@@hoen2009 The problem is that Quest draws the same kind of fanboyism that consoles do. There is a cognitive bias that happens when you get these people who are either too poor or too lazy to build/buy a gaming PC capable of the superior experience that PCVR brings on higher fidelity HMDs. They get irrationally defensive when people attack their Quest because deep down they are insecure about the fact that they are possibly missing out on a greater experience if they spent more on a powerful PC. The Quest is still cool though. However, the Rift S is just straight up better in every aspect outside of portability.
I’m so loving it I’m even converting my garage to accommodate the quest, the ultimate quest man cave coming to a street near you
Riley joining in with the dancing: Gotta love that👍🏻
9:44 I don't think any YT video has made me laugh this much in a long time xD gg editors
The cinematic interlude I didn't know I needed
Take this comment to the top. Editors are insecure.
We like.
my day = made. cheers for the time stamp. i've watched it 5 times just now
My gf gave me the Quest as a gift on my bday last week and i was like why did you spend your savings on a VR for me! but oh boy i was so wrong me & my gf have played it almost everyday for about 1-2hrs daily in the last week & we love it.
No wires made it so simple to play in my living room. I have a rtx 2080 build pc in my room but i do not have a enough space to play there but if the oculus link cord is large enough i thing this is the best thing my gf to have gifted me this year!
Worth the Price & Experience.
I am getting the feeling that your gf gave you the oculus because she wanted it lol
@@herzbr psst. Unplug the 2080 if you don't want her using it and then unplug the mobo
7:00 Riley: Linus is a bit of a VR snob himself...
Linus: *Listen here you little shit*
My son got this for X-mas from his girlfriend. I was never one to play video games until THIS magical ocular personal Disneyland came along. This thing is amazing! I’m totally hooked!
I would recommend google earth VR! Amazing app.
Get rec room
Lemme smash
I think your son has a rich girlfriend 😂😂😂
lucky son 😅
Taran has been using too many macros at 9:44
TARAN, this is an intervention!!
9:54 guy jamming in background and Linus doing his thing looks like a 2 person party :DDD
“linus theres a lightsaber through your head”
i call it linus saber
Linus: I was wrong
Ltt team: we told you
Note to the editors: Loving the added music bits, not 100% when you started adding them more and more, but very satisfying in this video specifically. Specifically in the beginning, not too much not too little just enough.
"Gets interested"
"Looks for the pricing in my country"
600 dollars.
#ThirdWorld
Ya ever heard OF AMAZON
Figure out us prices and I'll buy it for you and ship it to you.
@@sleepyknight4925 still 600 either way lol for the 128gb at least
@@sleepyknight4925 dude...
Amazon shipping is around 300 dollars in my country
$550 equivalent here. A no from me as well.
Hey Linus do a quest 2 review
Song at 9:40 is Home - Can't Stop Loving You (feat. Lifford Shillingford)
Thank you!
now im just expecting a 10 hour loop of that dance to this song
@@burnzy3210 just use Danny Byrd's "Put Your Hands Up". Has the same vibe and I know it's a good alternative because I go crazy with my driving on Horizon 3 everytime that song comes on.
@@OfficialDJSoru I agree, I love that song too. Was very surprised to hear a song like that on LTT. It sounds very similar to something you'd find on hospital records or UKF. Shame it's so obscure
I laughed out loud when you were dancing in the background.
Someone's gotta say, you get a lot more choppiness when casting the display, which they do through the whole video...
this was like when i showed vr to my brother. my brother was just complaining the whole time and im just trying to convince him to like it
9:45 - 10:05 had me in tears of joy. Never change LTT, never change.
My thoughts exactly :)
"YOU WROTE THAT INTO THE SCRIPT!"
xD
I wasn’t really sold on VR until I bought a quest.
That sounds like a "you" problem, but welcome to the VR world. There's lots to enjoy and many things to experience :)
Once you go VR it's hard to go back. No joke.
So wait, you don’t need a computer to play? The games are just in the headset?
Aaliyah Does Stuff you need nothing. Just the headset and you can use it. Anytime. Anywhere. It’s legit.
GS_01-03 sickkkk Ima ask for one fs
@@thatmasckid9517 correct. But you can also link it to your PC with a USB C cable
Uhhh Linus... the Quest 2 is already here.... maybe time for a review for the new model?
You were the only one that thought VR was dead. No one else thought that.
What this guy said ^. He speaks the truth. Only fake journalists writing fake articles bashing VR and this whiny UA-camr thought VR was dead.
@Istvan Varga That's not what an enthusiast is at all
Already said it in another comment, but I'll say it again here. Luke's and Linus' comments have been taken out of context time and time again. Hell Linus even mentions in this video the point they were original trying to make.
Seriously, LTT gets so much hate in stuff like VR focused subreddits over misconstrued comments.
I know I’ve gotten older when I’m paying more attention the furnishings and decor of that beautiful room than I am to the VR.
I should hope it looks good, it's a set lmao
@@herohalv4543 a set of what?
@@proto8432 A set as in movie set, cuz they're in a warehouse and everything is perfectly set up
Herohalv4 yeah I get it. Just my bad “Dad Joke”
Lmao what
Riley dancing in the background 😂
Loved the opinions from both the "elite" and the "casual".
9:54 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"35 Dollars, That's insane!"
His Store: i-
People who use dashes are disgusting
@@matezwizard9764 k
i'd like to thank Riley for reviewing this headset. i remember a wan show where linus was like nah i don't wanna review it. and riley was like but i wanna do it! and linus said ok..
thanks riley
also, nice editing
I don’t care what anyone says. I LOVE MY QUEST.
Yeah mate i sign that, the quest is awesome
kingshawn1214 same
@@lucavieth1326 I hope it is. I'm getting one in 4 days!
@@ivaheart4993 when you did order it?
@@hamdan_godisgreat7940 Yesterday and it arrives in store for me on the 5th
edit: from Best Buy
I’m really interested in seeing how Portable VR headsets improve
I really like the idea of just pulling it out of a backpack, Turning it on, Quick scan of the room and you’re done
So much better then having all these wires and time setting up cameras and plugging in wire after wire.
I got one only a week ago and it’s already good enough that the portability doesn’t even need improving
Why don't you just say that you wish ready player one were an actual reality lol
Quality VR is worth doing a one time setup for a camera, but if the quest gets more casual people into the VR market than I'm still really happy it exists.
Yeah, I feel like by the time I would set up vr, I wouldn't want to play anymore (if I had a car console lmao)
I’ve used this in an empty airport terminal. Had 25 sq ft. Played tea for god. It was incredible
anyone come here to see how far standalone VR has come?
yeah lol
same
@@quackattackduck2
lol VR was never dead, you just needed to wake up and smell the coffee!
That whole discussion about VR is basically the equivalent of a bunch of people standing round the seedling of a tree and staring at it waiting for it to grow.
Player 1: "Sorry dude, I think it's dead."
Player 2: "What do you mean it's dead? Is nice and green. Getting plenty of sun. Looks fine."
Player 1: "But it's tiny and it's not moving. Where are the fruit?"
Player 2: "It's gotten 300% bigger than the last time we measured it, and the time before that. It's actually growing incredibly quickly, but these things just take time."
Player 1: "Eh. I've never paid attention to any actual measurements myself, but a youtuber told me it was dead so I took their word for it."
Meanwhile in the background there's a forest of trees labbeled, gaming, television, mobile phones, powered flight, the combustion engine, gunpowder, agriculture, etc.
A classic case of the old saying, "Can't see the forest for the trees" in my opinion.
@@UnknownSquid All those other trees in the aforementioned forest started out as seedlings too. For example, there was a time when some people were like "meh, I don't need a smartphone, I have my Nokia brick phone and a PDA right here" or even "Payphones are everywhere, I don't need a mobile phone", and now it's like "You don't have a smartphone?", also, televisions were black and white and very small at one point, now we've got like, 80 inch 8k TVs. If people had just went "Meh, television's only in black and white, it's dead" and nobody showed interest in it, I don't think we'd be where we were now with TVs. Video games were 2D color blocks at one point, now they're becoming borderline photorealistic.
All of these seedlings became wonderful trees because people took care of them when they were young, and the same applies to VR.
Any plant will die if not properly cared for, so when you see a bunch of people crowding around that seedling saying "just wait", it's because we see what it will be, not what it is currently, but there's people going "meh, cut it down and uproot the remains from the ground, it didn't instantly turn into a tree fast enough for me." VR enthusiasts aren't blind, we _know_ there's a forest behind it and we also know it doesn't invalidate the forest existing because of this one sapling, it's just a rare opportunity to see a piece of said forest form and we wanna see that to completion, knowing what came of the other saplings that comprise that forest.
Player 2 is visualizing how beautiful of a tree it will be in due time, Player 1 is going "I've only ever seen fully grown trees so I don't care for the process that goes into creating more".
@@WMan37 Yeah, that's exactly my point. I kind of want to draw it as a comic or something.
@@UnknownSquid well said.
14:19 Linus's VR pressure marks tho, guy looks like he had an allergic reaction or something 😂
Does anybody else think Linus is biased? I do.
Maz ‘n’ Haz hes beennpaid for the "good" review
He seems like he expects to have a bad experience
Wouldn’t you be too if you built computers just to build them with the best possible components
Dedinitely sponsored
@@novablum3399 that'd be illegal to not properly disclose to viewers that this video is sponsored
Linus just became a whiney snob at this point and cannot appreciate any entry hardware at all with all honesty.
VR is such a small market right now that we're only now starting to have distinctions in prices. He doesn't care for prices, he looks at pros and cons and specs, that's it. If he sees something good he'll point it out, and vice versa
@@wockja considering he wouldn't even review these things until oculus sent them to him for free...
Yeah... his opinion is gonna be a little skewed.
@@SherrifOfNottingham Good point
@Sherrif your really gonna point that out i thought people sorted this out during the valve index review why would h buy it to review it when oculus told him they would send him the headset? he's not gonna use it he has an even better gaming rig now plus a valve index
I feel like the frame rate issues has to do with casting/recording while playing. I don't ever really have that issue with my Quest.
Or maybe I'm just not as sensitive to it.
I'd be interested to hear Linus's thoughts after playing some without casting/recording the screen.
This! It was pretty stupid way to see it first time. They wouldn't test a game while rendering Blender at the same time.
100% - i have very little lag with my quest. recording definitely makes things a bit less stable
Yeah I'm actually pretty disappointed that they didn't take that into consideration
You're one hundred percent correct. Recording/Streaming the quest will make your game a little choppy.
It's a 835, heavily modded, but what did you expect? Quest is amazing, but it has a ton of inherent limitations.
The quest is a game changer. I have a buddy with one and after trying it, yeah, 100% the none tethered experience is where it is at. The quality of the graphics and the display really is secondary to the experience and the portability.
Apparently oculus is preparing an update so you can tether the Quest to a gaming PC if you want to. But I think the fully mobile experience is the future of VR.
Be aware that that is just streaming over usb3, it won't be a good experience for most people. Some people might be able to handle it if they are used to something like PSVR of google cardboard. Or for the delusional lead-stomach'd people that use ALVR.
The future of VR has many places, both high-end attached to a high-end processing power and mobile VR/AR.
@@sqlevolicious I tried it and a bunch of my friends have tried it too. It isn't as smooth as a better headset, but the tracking and the framerate aren't problems. They just aren't strengths either. I have never felt sick.
Hopefully theres better wireless solutions for future desktop vr headsets.
When it comes to low-budget stuff, it really is the experience that's important. That's Apple's deal with the 11, that's Oculus' idea with this, and it really should be the case with everything honestly. Provide the best experience possible, whether or not that means matching numbers or meeting certain expectations, in this case the graphics quality or resolution.
Shoot, it's why PC gaming (and slowly but surely console gaming) has been so focused on frame rate. A great frame rate leads to a more enjoyable experience than a great resolution or great graphics setting. Great frame rate with a good enough graphics experience is ssooo much more enjoyable.
not for me... the wire doesnt bother me. id take that and a higher refresh rate, sharper graphics, more complex graphics, better physics and no motion sickness any day of the week.
i can see why the quest is so popular though, its damn good at what it does, its just not for me.
9:45 linus’s editor tried crack for the first time
6:34 when you forget you don't have a hoodie on.
Lel I just noticed it
?
For the people who want context, Riley puts his hand near his shirt like you would put on a hoodie
6:45
when he said "now its time..." my brain automatically completed it to "for the quick bits"
i think i have a problem
Quiqc bitz PTSD... You are not alone.
...brought to you by
6:43 "Now it's time..."
A: "...for me to really get to try this."
B: "...for the quick bits."
Riley is so insanely good on camera, so charming and interesting
Linus: “it’s so stuttery!”
Controller tracking when he shows it: (buttery smooth)
I know I dont know wtf he was talking about, it's never been laggy or stuttery for me and when I use virtual desktop ir oculus link cable it performs even better than my rift and the HTC vive
@@thedonzo You gotta consider how long ago this video was, the Quest was still really good, but his experience definitely isn't to be dismissed because today's Quest became really good, as for the past couple of months even, it's improved a lot.
Also in terms of the video, it's going to be useless to look at the footage even if you're watching it at 60fps, because I imagine he'd feel it was a bit more stuttery than what's at least he's used to which is the Index. That's more of a testament to his VR experiences and not how stuttery the Quest WILL feel for most people who buy it.
@@jinsory5582 I do when he made this video is when the oculus link beta dropped and all those things im saying came out lol. That being said it was all fresh but as a tech guy I would have assumed he would be on top of that stuff. Its my job to keep up with the latest technology and its linus's job as well so yeah...no hate just a huge oversight on his part.
Anywhere, that's right. My quest has been in South Africa, Italy, Mozambique, Eswatini, Lesotho, Zambia and Zimbabwe so far!
Im struggling to get it for $399 in South Africa
I actually love Riley. He's such a sweet boy.
Like a Canadian Griffin McElroy.
I dont think I have ever commented on Tech Tips videos (in fife years of watching) but now I have to say that this video was refreshing change! I think this consept is really well implemented, and editing is getting better by the day. Not just "cool" effects but actually funny and well made edits. Filming, reviewing and Linus + Riley combo seems to work well. More videos like these please! (if it fits for the product) everything can't be reviewed like this ofc.
Hahahaha "i feel so free" that was a hilarious interruption!
Linus: "You called me a snob."
Riley : YOU wrote that in the script. "
-mojo jojo
@ITS YA BOI MIKE WAZOWSKI because people always comments back asking why I do it.
- Mojo JoJo 🦍
@ITS YA BOI MIKE WAZOWSKI I take compliant to that thank yiu
The Rift S doesn't use a PenTile display. It has a full RGB pixel display, like the index.
Also, it's 5 cameras, not 6.
Should have put "Im sorry"in the title for more views
With a facepalm on the thumbnail and a sigh at the beginning of the video lol
Linus:this game is $30
His t-shirts: am I a joke to you
*How to be Linus Lew* :
"Oculus rift is amazing"
"Oculus rift has a serious problem"
"Don't buy Oculus rift"
Linus tech therapy be like
I'm switching to oculust rift
@@vinzaputra saying that why face palming
@@vinzaputra They claim this VR headset is standalone...
"Jeez, church is boring."
"Mom, can I use your oculus?"
fireandcopper church vr chat
Mom: yes
Kid 3 seconds later while church is in service: 9:49
Church is only boring if your going there to be entertained instead of worship God.
@@torturetuesday5191 ok boomer
@@bingus5775 okay boomer??? I'm 23 and you should be taking church seriously. Your entire eternity relies on you accepting the free gift of salvation. Jesus died for you and you don't even seem to really care that much.
Omg guys linus was wrong!!
What a suprise
Like yeah I cant believe it
Linus: “35 dollars for a game! Thats ridiculous!”
Almost every good xbox / ps4 game: “Are we a joke to you?”
“Every triple A game”