PlayStation just killed PC VR
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On paper the Sony PlayStation VR2 has specs that exceed a top of the line PC VR headset.. for half the price.
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0:00 - The PSVR2 is just plain better
1:30 - Our comprable PC
3:25 - The headset
6:58 - Controllers
8:20 - OLED Display
11:07 - Foveated Rendering
13:22 - Inside out Tracking
15:11 - Sound Quality
16:09 - Grand Turismo 7
18:10 - PSVR2 vs. PC
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give me it
Got it first day and haven't regretted that decision for one second, even with the limited library there's plenty to do. My only complaint is the same comfort problem that Linus reported: My european-sized👃
Someone should have told Linus to sit down, we know he drops... EVERYTHING. Also doing action games standing is a bad idea.
Help im stuck in vr
I would love to have one but I currently have PS4 Pro and upgrading to PS5 + PSVR2 would be pretty expensive. Hopefully the prices will drop.
A good thing to remember for people that haven't used VR before, is that what you see on your screen when they're showing VR footage is nothing like what it actually looks like in VR. You miss the depth of the image which is what makes it completely immersive. You really have to try VR to understand it
Yeah VR is one of those things that really doesn't come across on a video, putting the headset on and having that feeling of really being in the world is pretty amazing. I'm looking forward to this next round of VR headsets, things like OLED screens and 90+hz refresh rates are going to make it even more immersive and awesome.
Exactly. Even a screen that covers the full periphery of your vision does not explain how VR works. It's stereoscopic screens, so things have depth just like in real life. A flat display cannot replicate this effect.
Just tried one in the store last week for the first time. For some reason, the ability to detect depth was something that never was conveyed in all the youtube talk about VR I have seen on the platform for years. I mean I didn't expect it to mimic perfectly the depth we perceive of things in the real world. I was totally blown away.
Not completely immersive, it's still sort of like a fake 3d. It's not like real life 3d. VR is ok
No shit Sherlock
I work at a company that makes VR games and the biggest issue we have is trying to explain it to corporate types when they've barely played games at all. The biggest compliment is when they play the final product and smile like a kid 😄
That is so PURE I love that 😹
"is this still a game or are we transcending to another dimension?"
How about a raise?
I am making a VR experience (an outdoor space), and a guy I know who's never used VR before was so happy to try my experience as his first time. His smile was a compliment.
I have a PSVR and a quest 2. I make sure every friend that comes to my home tries it. And every last one of them enjoys the experience, it's unlike anything they have ever seen, truly novel thing. It's just to heartening.
I think they've laid some fantastic groundwork. The headset looks great and I've only heard positive things from people who've tried it, especially those OLED displays. It opens VR up to more people and that's great to see. I hope the platform itself takes off though because its good but pretty limited at the moment.
As it stands I don't think what the platform offers is enough to justify getting a ps5 just for PSVR2 unless you think you'd get good use out of the PS5 by itself anyway or already have a PS5.
I already have a VR capable pc and no PS5, so it's a harder sell in my case. Although admittedly I'm still linking a Quest 2 because I don't have the room for base stations and I'm holding out on upgrading until we see how the Quest 3 turns out compared to the Pico4 and Quest Pro. The quest 2 works, but the display is pretty bad by modern headset standards.
Also, part of my reasoning of getting a quest 2 back when it came out was that I get access to both PCVR and portable games. I'm just not a big fan of the closed ecosystem personally. If it got PC compatibility though, suddenly it would become both a PSVR2 and an upgrade for my PCVR headset - I'd pick one up tomorrow and probably look to get a PS5 in the next year or so too.
Ik heb het toen gekocht en ik moet echt zeggen ik speel bijna niks 2d meer.
Het is echt 1 usb-c kabel in je ps5 stoppen, je stelt alles 1 keer in en daarna onthoud de psvr2 je speelruimte. Dus 1 keer instellen, de keren daarna 1 kabel erin bril opzetten en spelen maar. De haptics en de trigger weerstand is perfect net zoals bij de dualsense controller.
Er zitten ook haptics in de headset zelf dus als je bijvoorbeeld in gt7 tegen een auto rijd of tegen een muur dan trilt je
Hoofd ook mee en is echt een leuke ervaring.
De headset is super comfortabel en ook het gewicht word perfect verdeeld.
Gt7: is echt geweldig je zit echt in de auto's en het gevoel van snelheid is veel beter. Ook zien alle interieurs er gelikt uit. En de apex is makkelijker te pakken omdat je alles veel beter ziet.
Resident evil village: dit spel is niet normaal het is mega vet je loopt echt in het spel en op plekken waar je nooit zou willen komen.
Red matter 2: spel met fantastische graphics. Goed verhaal en schitterende omgevingen echt een aanrader. Ik vind dit zelf een van de mooiste psvr2 graphics.
Minigolf: leuk spel veel banen, goede besturing en het is net of je echt aan het midgetgolfen bent.
Walking dead 1 en 2:
Leuk spel goed verhaal. Mooie graphics. Besturing is perfect en je kunt er goed je ei in kwijt ( lekker zombies slachten ) ;)
Kayak vr: mooi spel om aan mensen te laten zien hoe vr eruit ziet. Schitterende omgevingen en leuk om relaxt rond te varen en alleen maar kijken naar de omgevingen en de dieren en de vele vissen.
No man sky:
Het is zo mooi hoe ze de schaling hebben gemaakt in dit spel alles lijkt echt mega groot en na de laatste updat zijn de graphics ook perfect geworden. Mooie landschappen en er is genoeg te ontdekken.
Horizon call of the Mountain: spel word verkocht bij de psvr2 terwijl ik zelf vind dat ze beter gt7 erbij hadden kunnen doen of red matter 2. Die graphics zijn veel mooier. Het zijn leuke omgevingen maar het beeld kan scherper en het spel is voor 80% alleen maar klimmen. Na een tijdje zit er geen bloed meer in je armen (lol)
Ghostbusters:
Super leuk spel, mooie graphics en leuk om het online samen met andere mensen te spelen.
Star wars: mooi spel en er zit een leuk verhaal in. Mooie planeten en de besturing werkt perfect.
Pavlov: echt een mooi spel je kunt alle wapens echt pakken en gebruiken.
Ook kun je alle wapens proberen op de schietbaan.
Online spelen is ook leuk alleen dit vergt wel enige oefening 🤪
Ik ben super blij dat ik de stap heb genomen. Ik speel het veel vaker dan gedacht. Vooral omdat het binnen 2 minuten is aangesloten.
Mijn advies koop het, probeer het en als je het niets vind stuur je het terug.
Als je nieuw bent in vr begin dan met korte sessies te spelen.
Je brein moet er echt aan wennen.
Zorg dat je je lekker blijft voelen en op tijd stopt. Geef niet op het kan even duren voordat je er gewend aan bent.
Probeer eerst zittende spellen ( bijvoorbeeld in gt7 in de vr showroom rondkijken ) of stapvoets rond rijden en kijken hoe het gaat.
Je kunt ook een ventilator van een afstandje op je richten dit helpt ook bij veel mensen, ik heb dit zelf nooit nodig gehad.
Er komen heel veel nieuwe spellen bij en er komt ook steeds meer bij in vr.
Heb je nog vragen stel ze gerust 😃
It's crazy how the eye tracking in VR can almost create a realistic DoF in certain circumstances as well. If you're looking at something in the foreground, the slight blurring of the background is just normal for human vision
Have you heard of the prototype Varifocal lens systems? Wild future coming
That’s my biggest problem with immersion in VR, is the lack of DoF. I find it makes judging distance and speed more difficult without it.
I mean maybe if someone is watching it on a regular display, but it's gonna look the exact same to the user as their eyes already naturally do that. It's just a great optimization overall.
but doesnt that happen automatically? i mean like, you have to focus on things in vr, same as in real life, and then everything else is out of focus.
@@nikoheino3927 In real life objects are at various depth, which is why we see clear where we focus, and blurry on other depths.
In VR you're looking at a scree which is always at the same (projected) distance (around 1.5m thanks to the lenses projection. So your eyes never have to adjust the depth component in VR.
Software availability is definitely going to make or break this thing. It's gonna need some full-fledged games like Boneworks/Bonelab and Half-Life: Alyx. It can't be all glorified tech demos.
You don't think it will get more games with time? Even with the games that PC VR have, most VR gamers I know got bored of their games really fast
it has more AAA games day one than pc in last 3 years....dont worry
I think boneworks and Pavlov as well into the radius would expand their games to the PS5.
Just like Pavlov did to the Quest 2.
Edit: Ok, now I know that Pavlov is on PSVR 2.
Pavlov is on psvr 2, the full game (no mods tho)
Playstation wanted Alyx on VR2, Valve doesn't though
A side note about the Quest 2 (And presumably future versions): The OOTB strap sucks. It gets the job done, but if you plan on spending any amount of time in the thing, I highly recommend getting the BOBOVR strap with battery slot. Much more adjustable and comfortable, and easier to position the headset itself to ensure clear visuals.
While tethered VR is fantastic, I truly believe cordless is the way to go when possible, and with the Oculus software for a wireless PC tether for any Steam VR gaming, it is top notch. I notice very little compression issues in Steam VR with this method. So the BOBOVR strap with battery slot enables pretty darn good performance, and it's only another $50 or so ($80 if you want/need a second battery pack and charging stand for near limitless playtime).
All that said, I'm really looking forward to what the tech the PSVR headset will bring to the VR market, and how the devices will evolve as a result.
But the oculus/meta quest 3 has the best straps that are easy to use
they don't even got a bot to unlist every video automatically they're doin it manually 💀💀💀
i think youtube limits the rates on how many video you can do at once
Wym? Don’t understand
I agree with this in many ways. The experience, most of the time, is awesome. Still the game catalogue is extremely limited right now, but that’s something we VR people are pretty used to.
Edit: interesting you didn’t notice Mura at all. I guess it really could be the case that different units have more or less; maybe I just got unlucky.
Didn't expect to see you here
My favorite vr content creator!
I was very disappointed that Linus didn't even mention Pimax or Varjo headsets 😡
@@x32i77 I'm much more disappointed that he and people like you didn't mention the PICO 4
@@handsomejustin YEAH EXACTLY 😭😭😭 really casual approache! He also didn't even mention bhaptics vest and arms for PC 🤷🏻♂️
the eye tracking/resolution scaling is a clever way to get a good experience out of performance-limited hardware. Kudos to Sony. Looks like they really hit the mark here.
Now i'm thinking about it just for Gran Turismo.
I am so tempted to get a ps5 for GT. Add in the headset and a really good wheel, and I could be set for months of fun.
I honestly hate psvr2, and Sony in general
@@sword_racer185 why
@@sword_racer185 I don't think you should hate them (Sony), but I don't blame you. Why I think you shouldn't hate them, is because if any company, no matter who they are does something good for VR, it's good for the rest of VR. It's not a platform vs platform thing. A bit of competition is healthy. It will help put pressure on VR in general to improve. It's just a shame LTT are so short sighted and nasty that every review is about one platform killing another. Or they are switching from this product to that product. They do it all the time. Instead of acting like a team of experts reviewing new products. They act like kids who can't be happy with anything and always want the next best thing. They don't really put any thought into these reviews. Every video is a knee-jerk reaction.
@ArduinoBen they started the aaa price raise, they sued dbrand cause of a ps5 side panel, Sony exclusives have become unimaginative and boring, the psvr2 is fugly like nothing I've ever seen before, they have some of the worst customer service ever, and most their stuff is overpriced imo
Thanks for validating my VR experience. I bought a psvr2 bc I don’t have a pc but was lucky enough to catch a ps5 a while back. I kinda felt like I was getting a gimmicky less-than experience simply bc it’s a console. This makes me feel very confident that I’m definitely getting a top tier experience even at a significantly smaller price point!
It’s been a month, how has the PSVR been treating you?
Take it from me it's better then a gaming PC + quest 3. I just rebought my PSVR2 and returned the q3 lol. The OLED colour blacks and controllers with haptics are leagues ahead of the PCVR exp! Maybe the next valve headset will change things but for now psvr2 is the best all round vr exp
@@JBBost mate I was running VD on ultra and enjoyed hl2 vr mod and Alyx. Beyond that I didn't enjoy other vr mods and overall prefer the psvr2 exp. The extra sharpness and wireless factor is great but doesn't top the psvr OLED controllers and haptics coming together
Only thing that made me not get one is the fact it's wired after using wireless so long I can't go back
That's very subjective. I personally can't get over the flickering of the OLED and got motion sick immediately while I have no issues on the quest 2 and 3. Except from the mixed reality and hand tracking the library of meta and pcvr is on another level this far but if Sony steps up there and you don't get ms it's def a great headset. @@billss889
Can't believe someone as huge as linus tech tips can get hacked.
Although this means we can get a video about shiТТing on youtube security and a video on security in general, something we lacked for a while now
Linus is the first person I've heard actually complement the Pvr2's price, since he very familiar with the high price of pc headsets.
yep, I mean others are not wrong that the PSVR2 is "expensive" but that completely misses the fact that good VR headsets for PC are VERY expensive, and that the PSVR2 is actually an incredible deal.
@@joelface it's a good deal if you already own a playstation
@@BradPixelManH exactly, if you don't then you gotta shill extra 500 for ps5
yeah, when the price was revealed it seemed like everyone was shocked that it wasn't like $300 for some reason, despite the original PSVR being around $500 at launch when you include the price of the separately sold camera and move controllers. general consumers have really gotten too used to oculus quest and mostly forget about higher end VR.
He qualifies it by mentioning the 30 million existing ps5s. I think that's the part that tends to be ignored. It's less realistic to expect the average vr user buying a psvr2 will not have a ps5 and will only use the ps5 as a vr accessory. The ps5 is a great console and the headset is pretty affordable if you already planned to own a ps5
Linus learning that what he has perceived his whole life as high resolution vision was actually a tiny circle in the middle of his eyes was a giggle. Our brains really do some heavy lifting when it comes to image stitching. Very cool that we have the tech to literally just match the render fidelity to the users focus, such a huge payoff for hardware efficiency to tailor the image to exactly what the user is perceiving.
@@nesnahnevard4907 From where does it follow that I am my brain? I.e. From where does it follow that I and the brain are one and the same?
It's extremely cool!
@@ZenathD the comment youre replying to is gone but id say because if your brain changes, you change. people who have damage to their brain become different people in all senses but physical (the person in a physical sense is poorly defined due to recycling of cellular and molecular components over time) and the theory goes that a brain in the body of a different person would be the same person as the brain in the original body. it is very difficult to separate the conscious brain from the individual. the unconscious brain is largely pretty similar across even different species as well.
@@jonathanodude6660 So your saying we don't even need the whole brain to be placed in an artificial body? We can just mold a partial artificial brain and attach only the prefrontal cortex to it to transfer the conscience of a being into an immortal shell?
Yeah, I was thinking the same. Or, in other words; Linus can't tell that only the bits he focuses on are rendered in more detail because whatever he's focuses on then becomes the part that's rendered in high detail. It's almost like a 'did the chicken or the egg come first?' kind of thing. To experience what I'm describing without this headset; focus on a point anywhere in the room you're in, and then, without moving your eyeballs and moving your visual focus, try to be aware of what you're seeing around the edges of your field of vision. Not surprisingly, it's all very blurry.
So to me it sounds like Sony did an excellent job mimicking how human vision works.
The psvr2 seems to be really damn great by seeing this, I would like to compare it to the quest 3 when it comes out fully. For now though it seems awesome, the only problem is that the eye tracking could be actually bad for content creators because of the inconsistent video quallity from onlookers
On the heavy Quest 2 link cable, if you haven't already you should really try messing around with how to get the most out of Air Link. You definitely want the router in the same room where you'll use VR, run ethernet from the PC to the router, and connect the Quest 2 over 5 ghz wifi. The latency is so low with it setup that way that I forgot I wasn't playing games natively on the Quest 2. What I haven't done yet is play around with all settings in the Oculus app to maximize the image quality, but with the games I was playing I didn't notice any sacrifices over being tethered.
That IR eye tracking is actually incredible. I was getting excited with Linus. Given how much more demanding VR games can be just to match the same fidelity of a mid tier flatscreen game, this will make it possible to boost performance and fidelity without much sacrifices. So it’s literally guaranteeing that games will look much better in VR going forward and a big step forward in VR tech. Love to see it
Sony got so much flak for the PS Motion controllers and now they are the main innovators in VR. They have redeemed themselves very well.
It's not as good as they are making it seem, still not low enough latency (currently 200hz, needs to be around 500hz) to actually help with processing power. More of a "proof-of-concept" for future technologies that can bring eye tracking latency down low enough to make a difference for the hardware.
The biggest hurdle is eye-to-photon latency and we won't come across a breakthrough regarding that tech for at least a few decades or more.
@@SI0AX There is nothing innovative in the PSVR2, they are using tech that many systems have had for years already. I'd say PSVR2 is more of a last generation kit and will soon (in less than a year?) be two generations behind systems like the Quest 3 and Deckard.
Innovative? In what way? They use existing tech. And because it's a close ecosystem with a single hardware, it can be optimized to a high degree, offering a better experience than a comparable system (price wise).
@@evolicious I agree. Not sure why I commented that. IMO the innovation is the software trick to save on resources by not rendering clear what is out of focus.
The PSVR2 looks awesome, I just wish I could also use it on PC but I know that's extremely unlikely given that Sony is almost certainly relying on PSN sales to subsidize the cost of it just like with the console itself
And standalone is so nice to have too. When ur traveling or just wanna watch a movie or something u dont need to hook a Quest up to a pc or ps
People did find a workaround to get PSVR 1 working on PC eventually, hopefully someone can crack PSVR 2 as well
Someone will figure out how to use in on PC sooner rather than later.
Let's hope we can have a hack real soon to get the PSVR2 outside Sony's walled garden and make it work on PC.
@@chow_3699
The Creator of that workaround said, that it is unlikely that the PSVR2 will be PC Compatible at all unless Sony themselves make it happen because of the truly custom design of the PSVR2 unlike the original PSVR which was essentially a display and additional Hardware.
Lets just hope the people who hacked this channel are just privatizing and not deleting the videos
Unlisting
what are u talking about
@@fishygrannyflaps5748 this channel was hacked 10 days ago, don't you know?
@@riba2233 oh nah i didn’t
@@fishygrannyflaps5748 bruh
They got hacked rip
A note regarding the compression on the Quest 2, you can use one of the programs included with an Oculus app install manually set the bitrate *much* higher than the Oculus app itself lets you, which can make the compression nearly unnoticeable. It really should just be an option in the app officially.
Edit: for anyone wondering, you use Oculus Diagnostic Tool, it's installed along with the Oculus desktop app under /Oculus/Support/oculus-diagnostics/. I have a 3070 and use the link cable, so these settings get me great results:
- Encode Dynamic Bitrate: Enabled
- Dynamic Bitrate Max: 350
- Encode Bitrate (Mbps): 350
- Dynamic Bitrate Offset (Mbps): 100
Link Sharpening: Auto
Mobile ASW: Auto
Black levels aside, the end result looks pretty great. I still wouldn't want to use it for playing 2D games or anything, but everything looks nice and sharp in VR games and text is comfortably readable from decent distances.
I don't think it's an official option because it can tap into the longevity of the battery both in immediate use and long term. You're effectively overclocking it. For liability they likely don't have it so people who aren't knowledgeable or aware couldn't accidentally flip it on and kill the battery life without noticing what it's doing to their system.
Holy crap I NEED THIS. I hate when I play games like H3 in the outdoor range and it looks like I'm watching a 144p YT video. Is there any video explaining how?
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 Do you have a source on the battery thing? I've tested around with how well my PC's USB can charge my Quest 2 while in use, and the Quest burns through battery multiple times faster running Bonelab natively while plugged into the PC for power than it ever does linked at 350mbps bitrate. It still loses charge over time when using Link, but it lasts a good five or six hours.
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 it is an official option.
I'm using a Pico 4 with Virtual Desktop's godlike settings. It does require a beefy PC, but I can't say I've noticed any compression during gameplay unless I'm trying really hard in specific parts. The screens are higher res than the Quest 2, they are pancake lenses and thus stuff outside the center doesn't blur, has a wider IPD range support, better weight distribution and more comfort, etc.
Quest 2 is still better if you're using it a lot for standalone though. And it can get a bit brighter. And I guess Quest 2 has better finger tracking (not that it's useful outside of tech demos and maybe VR chat). Anything else, Pico 4 is pretty much objectively superior or at least equal.
The thing about the eye tracking is so important because the reality of things is that our eyes aren’t in focus on everything all the time. What PSVR is doing is doing a really good job on focusing on what matters. Our eyes will also move to look at something before our head turns towards that thing. Doing it this way allows the system to put more resources where they matter and allow the system to effectively punch above its weight class.
I have a Quest 2 and use it wirelessly with my PC. I like it well enough, though I don’t really have much experience with VR headsets (I’ve also used a PSVR1 and a Rift S). I really do like no wire and since my PC is on ethernet i can connect my Quest 2 to my PC directly over Wifi. I think i will have a PSVR2 before the end of the year. I just wish there could have been some tool they could use to convert PSVR 1 titles to PSVR 2, though going from the single camera with light balls on sticks to this is probably impossible, so that’s why everything is being remade from scratch.
I think a functioning hack would be much better to get the PSVR2 outside Sony's walled garden and make it work on PC.
@@sovo1212 That's gonna be very difficult unless Sony themselves opens the gate and allowd PC use.
Even the original PlayStation VR is not fully hacked for PC use.
This one is going to be harder since they aren't using the standard USB protocol.
@@sovo1212 I think there are too many small things going on that need to be cracked before it can be properly utilized on PC. The lack of Display Port or HDMI is also a problem. By then I think Steam will have released an OLED headset with eye tracking. Presumably a higher resolution screen as well. I have a feeling that Facebook is losing sway in the PC VR market with that whole Metaverse thing. If there is a Quest 3 I know I'm not going to get it.
@@sovo1212 Getting the headset working doesn't matter if the software isn't there to do the foveated rendering.
I agree, for VR it's the right thing to do. On a flat panel further away from you it's not the right thing to do.
Are you planning to review the Bigscreen Beyond?
I find it pretty tempting just the FOV of 90° seems a bit small
THE CHANNEL HAD BEEN HACKED NOOOOOO
Man what a glow up from the original psvr to this. I honestly wish they released steam vr compatibility for this headset since this blows every WMR headset out of the water and is a true rival to the quest.
@Leah Jiraiya Damn, actually got bamboozled
What is wmr
I frankly doubt that Sony will make this compatible with anything but the PS5. They're selling it that cheap solely because Sony expects users to take the dip and get both a PS5 and their games.
@@supanjibobu372 Windows Mixed Reality. VR/AR Headsets using a Windows platform.
That will literally never happen. The price of this headset is HEAVILY subsidized by being a part of the sony ecosystem, if this was priced with the intention of making money it would be a lot more expensive than the index.
The eye tracking is really insane, they really put pressure on any company making a new vr set. Amazing, just amazing job by Sony. I wish something like this comes for PC soon.
i think that this combined with the UE5 graphics is gonna do wonders for vr..
Uh, eye tracking been out for nearly 6 months already on Quest Pro. Now if Meta could just learn about NOT pricing it out of most people's reach 😆
@@Chris-wq3pe I would never compare something that's 3 times the price. Quest pro is a scam. Worse in every aspect and their eye tracking defeats the purpose I'm mentioning.
I didn't mean just having eye tracking but the idea to blur the rest since you won't notice it for efficiencys sake, that's what I meant. For 3 times the price there's no excuse to go through that shortcut, that's why they are incomparable. 2k should get you a whole lot more than that.
Varjo has it already for a long time. Oké you can buy 5 complete ps5s for the cheapeast varjo, but a varjo crushes the psvr2 instantly!
@@matness8879 Are you saying price efficiency isn’t a priority for console gamers? PlayStation is the best tech you can get for the cheapest amount, that’s a fact.
I don’t plan on swapping from my index for quite some time.. but I am so excited for vr to become more accessible! Can’t wait to see you guys ingame!
I tried a few VR headsets despite still not owning one, and when I tried the first PS VR what I like the best was how comfy it was, even with glasses on, is the new one also as comfy with glasses? and are there any PC VR headsets that also work great with glasses? I think it's about time I look into getting myself my first VR headset, but idk what to buy. I might just buy a HTC vive used just to have a cheapo one to start with(plus that's the headset I used the most in the past, we had a pre release vive at my university so we could test VR games we made and other things)
I've believed for years that the VR stuff really needs to hit the "I've gotta have it" status rather than just "that's really cool" status. VR needs to be at a stage where friends tell their friends how awesome a VR thing is, demonstrate it, and make the other friend feel like they've gotta figure out a way to fork over however much money asap to have it.
Who knows, maybe the PS VR2 can achieve this?
@@svpermari0 so, like what the bigscreen headset did? It isn't a great deal for $1000, but it's smaller than cardboard, has good displays, and is pretty comfy from what I've heard.
I think the only way to have that feeling, would be through portable gaming.
Sharing a virtual 100+in screen with your brother for a quick SmashBros match, each their own virtual 27in screen for a FPS (no more screen peaking), or for long, comfy MMO - RPGs - COOP sessions is really appealing… ESPECIALLY when you consider that only that tech will allow you to do all that from your airplane seats, car rides, etc.
@@JorgeGonzalez-su4ce ok, you could do that, but VR is not like playing on a 100 inch screen. It's way better. It's more like you are inside the game. Like really there in that world. Go up to stuff look around and really be ...there.
It really is damn good. It's kind of amazing. I think gran turismo is a proper killer app. Therea a ridiculous number of cars you can drive like something like 450 cars. All modelled with near photo realistic interiors. And it's fun to drive them. Omg so addictive. And you have a showroom you can use and get close to all the details and it's crazy how detailed the dashboard elements are. The screens are clear enough to read the dials on the car while driving. You don't need a HUD. I can't tell you.. it's just so good but I built a driving rig onto my sofa (I can't hear the wife when headset is on and earphones are in!)
You would need a headset that costs idk $1500 or more like pimax crystal and a PC that costs idk $2000 or more to exceed the fidelity here. And everything is already built in on PSVR2 and more importantly the software is optimised for the hardware. So even then, you have a hard time keeping up with this tech. You could have eye tracking on PC... Nothing really supports it. You certainly won't benefit from the aggressive foveated rendering like on psvr2. You could have headset haptics (a bhaptics extra) but your game may not support it and it's a tack-on face gasket that will change your comfort (make it worse). You'll have to faf with Bluetooth, find the settings in game, run a paring program, make sure it's separately charged etcetera.
The VR community is mostly blown away by psvr2. It's not quite the most comfortable headset. It's not quite perfect tracking... But damn! You have to spend a small fortune to beat it out.
And games? Well idk 50 games in the first couple of months is going to be too much for most people to get through. I only had 95 out of the 600 games for the whole of the 6 years of psvr1.
It's just the beginning. What a great start!
I felt that first time I tried an oculus quest at a buddies house. Been saving up since lol
As a PC VR player, I'm still excited that PSVR2 is a thing. Hopefully it helps VR gaming get bigger and bring more games to both platforms, and I look forward to advances made in this tech making their way to PC headsets in the future. I started with an OG Vive and then upgraded to an Index. I think at this point, I'm gonna wait to upgrade again until I can have a fully wireless experience along with stronger visuals. If we can get headsets with an alternative to fresnel lenses it would be ideal as I think that's honestly the biggest issue with the Index. If you don't have the headset on just perfectly right, the edges of the lenses are really blurry which is rough for games like into the radius.
Agree, someone will bring these features back to PC at some point for sure and I am here for it
HTC Vive with lens mod + Vive wireless adapter is the thing you are looking for
Dont count on PS sharing anything with the rest of the VR space, they will garden wall EVERYTHING (worse then most companies).
lol ok sure because that's what everyone said about PSVR1 and look how many more PSVR games there are now and how much it has changed anything in that scene.
Really hope that pcvr will get some new games because of the psvr 2, i have both an index and a q2 and i almost never use the quest, but atleast if there are never games made for pcvr again i have a quest as backup(honestly doubt that pcvr will go away considering it's still the best way to play vr imo, very much disagree with the quest people who think that standalone will rule the industry and that cables are despicable, especially since the psvr2 is already quite popular)
I never got to own the valve headset as it was not available here. But upgraded from Vive to a mid range or low end pimax artisan. The odd thing is that I find that headset to have little less artifacts and more clarity than my psvr2 headset and also a little more FOV.
Love the detail you go into while describing everything, can't wait to get ahold of one of these suckers. Great review!
I love the implementation of foveated rendering with this headset. The reason Linus can't tell is because the rendering *always* tracks his pupil location. It's like trying to catch those floaters when you close your eyes real tight; the moment you move your focus they disappear. The rendering is always shifting to track where he's looking. From an external observer you can tell, but while wearing it it'd basically impossible to notice the shift, unless there were processing lag or you closed your eyes.
I'm curious though how fast it redetects your pupil location after a blink, for example. Like if you close your eyes for a while and look in a different direction and then open, will you see a blurry screen until it redetects your iris location, and how long will that take?
What surprised Linus the most is the fact that it was *entirely* unnoticeable to him. Specifically two things, 1: The speed at which the textures and focus shifted was faster than he could see. And 2: The transition between low and high quality was so smooth, it wasn't detected at all in his peripheral vision.
The way your brain works helps a lot. It is very used to having to wait for refocusing and stabilization of the eye after movement. You're temporarily blind during eye movement, and don't notice that due to time and space being warped for you. Look up saccadic suppression/compression and chronostasis, or VSauces video "STOPPED CLOCK ILLUSION"
it does detect when you blink,, was mentioned in a review about that on rails horror shooter. like the game moved mannequins every time you blinked.
also I'm not sure if humans can redirect their eyes while they're closed. like human vision is weird we do like saccadic movements or something, we rapidly move our eyes back and forth to form a complete image but we don't really notice this because of persistent of vision, like we don't get raw input from our eyes. the brain does a lot of processing to make it a stable consistent image while our eyes are racing around in their sockets...
from wikipedia:
When scanning immediate surroundings or reading, human eyes make saccadic movements and stop several times, moving very quickly between each stop. The speed of movement during each saccade cannot be controlled; the eyes move as fast as they are able.[4] One reason for the saccadic movement of the human eye is that the central part of the retina-known as the fovea-which provides the high-resolution portion of vision is very small in humans, only about 1-2 degrees of vision, but it plays a critical role in resolving objects.[5] By moving the eye so that small parts of a scene can be sensed with greater resolution, body resources can be used more efficiently.[how?]
which makes this whole dynamic foveated rendering even more impressive. like you'd think our eyes would wander of into the low resolution part of the scene in the few miliseconds it takes them to dart around.
@@WilcoVerhoef Dude thank you for mentioning that. I was wondering if this is a thing lol (and I didn't watch that VSauce video so, here I go xd).
I suspect it has problems with having just one eye open as well. Sometimes in Pavlov aiming can get real blurry. It causes me to shift the headset/ipd to perfection, but even then it can still get blurry. Can't complain too much though, as it's just training me to aim with both eyes :)
The foveated rendering is genius. I played the PSVR1 and my main gripe was that the equipment was so clunky. Having everything run through one wire is a major upgrade.
Could you please explain what foveated rendering is?
@@garibaldidev8946 it's what you see in the video where Alex can tell where Linus is looking, the headset tracks where you're looking and reduces the quality in your peripheral vision, very useful to performance while not taking away from the quality you perceive
Man if that was your main issue with PSVR1 IDK. When I tried it it was fine, but it was the only affordable vr solution back then. Now having tried headsets like the Pico 4 and Quest 2 there would be no going back to either a wire or a low-resolution headset. Also after Pico 4, I want nothing different than a pancake lens.
@@louie365official agreed, I've only used the PSVR1 once, but it's not an experience that I want to repeat especially since I'd already used HTC Vive and Occulus Rift quite a bit before that point and sure they're heavier the speakers didn't fit my ears perfectly but at least they didn't burn my eyes and feel jarring from the low refreshrate
it is so sad seeing people watering at their mouth over this when wireless and pancake lenses are WAY better. Quest 3 will probably be the best overall when it releases. Sadly Sony hold their IPs hostage and you are forced to buy BSVR2 for their games...
17:51 the reflections on the green Nissan only shows the side wall but the car which you drive should have also been visible in VR when you looked at it
It's weird to say but current VR gaming really feels like the partial decedent of the 3DS and Wii U. It feels like the gameplay of games like Nintendo Land is partially being carried on besides the co-operative game aspect as much
My favorite review so far for this headset! I really appreciate that Linus actually uses VR; his experience helps when explaining the upgrades.
PSVR 2 is a game changer. Playing Gran Turismo 7 on a sim rig and PSVR 2 is probably the closest thing to real life racing.
There's been far more realistic games on PCVR for years. GT7 is good only because of a full single player campaign
@@4879daniel , nah I’ve played asseto corsa on pcvr and it’s underwhelming and I love Asseto Corsa
I really hope dirt rally 2.0 gets support for psvr2. I have a racing sim for my ps5, and I've been playing lots of gt7 vr on it. Dirt rally is my go to tho
@@innoc3ntbystndr but there are more realistic games on pc plus all kinds of extra kit like bass shakers,motion, handbrakes, etc.
Too bad that GT7 is online only. If it wasn't for the customer-hostile approach, I'd probably have bought both the game and one of these HMDs by now.
Noooo linus tesla live
This my first VR set I ever bought and I just say it’s incredible. I have no issues playing for hours it’s just best imo.
how you know? its your first?
Eventually you'll get tired of it. My quest 2 is in the box now. (I know its not a PS but VR is tiring having it still on top of your head)
@@dandatiles8404sounds like a personal problem
@@dandatiles8404 So you actually admit, Its not a PSVR2.......... LOL
I’m 42 and my first vr experience was when I was just a kid in the early 90’s @ the MN state fair and it was a huge giant machine and I played dactyl nightmare with my moms BF. I was hooked from there. I bought psvr and upgraded my ps4 to the pro, I bought ps5 at launch and got my psvr2 on Feb 22nd! I loved psvr1 and the limitations were noticeable right out of the box, but I still fell head over heels in love with it. Psvr 2 is a game changer. Me personally I don’t notice ANY screen door effect. I lowered my displays brightness to about 3/4. It took me a little bit to find where to wear it on my head and find the sweet spot. But I absolutely love it! I can race better and faster in GT7. I find myself swaying with car movements and really really getting involved. I’m really lucky to be able to afford all of this stuff and get to experience this early consumer tech. I can’t wait to play moss 2. Moss was so adorable and I loved it. RIGS was my jam!! I rocked that game hard!! I boroughs almost every psvr game. Except the scary stuff! Haha I tried rush of blood but I couldn’t do it. I don’t get scared in reality but in vr I get horrified. I would like to be able to play it but I just can’t! 🤣 racing games on psvr weren’t good and I would rather play them normally. But again GT7 is so perfect and so realistic, I really feel like I’m there. Next I need a steering wheel and pedals!
Same gaming generation here. I haven't played gt since the first.
You must must must play re8vr if you have not yet. It's really amazing.
entirely opposite for me… i’m in my early 20’s and have been gaming my whole life but never tried VR just for financial reasons. The PSVR2 will definitely be my first foray at some point after such glowing reviews. just hope for more games by the time i can play it!!
@@catwiffhat4274 I might also buy this as my first vr setup. Also in my early twenties :D I have tried quest 2 high as hell while playing superhot and it was really fun but this thing just seems like a gamechanger. Also my pc is gtx980/i5-3550 so I'd rather pay 1200€ for ps5, psvr2 and couple of games than just buy a vr capable pc alone and still have to figure out where to get another 1000€ for the vr setup :D
You honestly sound less like you are hooked on VR and more like you are hooked on PlayStation.
Easiest way to lose your girlfriend lol PS5 alone is enough
VR has been languishing a little, somewhat down to Facebook's drive towards monopolising it but I really hope that PSVR 2 helps drive demand up some more and incites more competition, including for PC. I do really enjoy my Index still, but VR tech has some a way since it was released and I would be happy to see if any of the long circulating rumours of a successor turn out to be true. There are certainly hardware things about the Index that could be fixed, in addition to spec bumps, and hopefully Valve would be able to bring something a bit more updated to the table alongside a subsidised price like the Steam Deck.
Trouble again is Facebook and how they've drawn away a lot of the talent from publishing on PC VR, making a lot Quest exclusive.
The positive response to the PSVR 2 is encouraging, and given the popularity of VR in Japan, it was a sensible idea. I would love to try it myself if I had a PS5.
No need to worry about Facebook as competition, I think Zuckerberg has sealed it's fate. It'll be a footnote in history soon.
PCVR is all but dead, just a few indie titles coming out at a trickle. It's sad.
I have the PSVR2 and a VIVE Pro (with Gear VR lens mod), the latter of which I jerry rigged to pull the headset at the top to avoid alleviate the pressure under the eyes. The VIVE Pro wins in terms of blocking out light but the PSVR2 easily wins in terms of comfort, even with the jerry rig solution on my VIVE Pro. What I can't understand is why the PSVR2 went with the ridiculous rubber (or whatever that is) to try and block out light. You're always aware of it pressing against your face and although it's not a big deal it just feels cheap.
My only other issue is PSVR2 is more finicky with tracking due to a lack of base stations. I occasionally lose tracking in games even with plenty of light in the surrounding area, which especially sucks with Call of the Mountain because the game pauses.
PSVR2 looks great. Going to be a wild new generation for VR players across the board. This is the kind of good competition we love to see - The kind that actually benefits the users and community as a whole.
Well said.
Except the ones that want to play custom songs in Beat Saber.
its not quite direct competition however as its proprietary to ps5 users only. and most, who are mainly pc gamers, would be hard pressed to get a ps5 just to use psvr2. just like it is when it comes to exclusives. even more so as its the ps5 then the psvr then the game itself.
Wow, Feels like its been a couple of years since we have had a truly positive review of a product. Things are getting back to normal and Sony did a great job once again.
I have been Really Impressed with the PSVR2 so far. it is incredible
He just kind of left out all the problems...
@@CuervoCuban yeah i tried this vr for the first time at my cousin's house and it was awesome
@@Jdogrey1 what are those? Can you enlighten us?
@@sadman.saqib.zahin01 1. It is way too expensive. I already have a VR ready PC and a PS5, so the cost of the headset is all that matters, and the Quest 2 is way cheaper.
2. No ability to mod games or use UGC. This is especially serious for me as a high level Beat Saber player.
3. It looks like the tracking is a little worse than the Quest 2, so I would have a harder time doing really fast motions.
Oh no linus tech tips got hacked
Holy shit did LTT get hacked or what
Glad to see VR is getting another (very good) boost in gaming so its not just industrial application that keeps racing on :)
but costs 1000$ to buy in to for the headset and console
@@dabadoo7631 VR isnt cheap by any measure. So whats your point?
@@dabadoo7631 500$ if you already have a ps5 and most gamers have that or plan to get it anyways with or with out vr
@Drew $500 for a VR headset is cheap. they SHOULD sell for $800+. I remember looking at some snowboarding Goggles that had a tiny screen in the bottom right corner you can look at to see your stats.
Such a cool headset, and so happy Sony is continuing to support the VR platform. Im super jealous of those who are just now jumping into VR for the first time. Minds will be blown.
You guys said that about the first psvr 🤣
@@MrYuck-ec5do I don't really think anyone with actual VR experience was saying that. PSVR was like an oculus DK2 with the worst tracking of any headset out there, and PSVR 1 is still the second highest selling headset. It was also running on the weak hardware of the PS4.
PSVR2 seems like it has great hardware, and has some good power behind it with the PS5. If Sony can continue to make games for it, PSVR2 will be a reasonable higher end option who wants more than the Quest 2's mobile graphics.
@@MrYuck-ec5do Why do you cry so much?
@@MrYuck-ec5do ..and the PSVR1 was the highest, fastest-selling VR headset of all time up until the Quest 2, despite its weak hardware. Wether people like it or not, Sony and Meta are the two companies pushing VR forward entirely.
@@MrYuck-ec5do My mind was blown with the OGPSVR, playing Skyrim in VR for the first time going toe to toe sword and board with something that stood at least 10ft taller than me like a giant was very next level for 2016, same thing with EvE Valkyrie it made me feel some real movement like flying something just sitting in my office chair.
Why won't these companies adopt the Valve Index style for their controllers? Those are far superior to any other controllers on the market.
recently Sony announced that they're working on PC compatability. I think this will help it become way more useful and unleash its full potential.
And our team has begun reverse engineering the headset to create a driver system for PC use!- We've been finding an easier time than expected!
good luck, we will hopefully hear from your team in 4-6 years, that you guys made it.
That sounds promising... 👌🏻
I'm not on PC but I still wish Sony would do Official support because to me seems like it would be a no brainer success !
Oh my God. That is such a wonderful news!
@@Q-Limited my guess is that the headset is sold with a very low margin for sony. It is a way to get customers into their eco system and make them subscribe to ps+ and buy their games. So if they would officially support PCVR than the hardware would be more expensive. Yet again this is just my guess so take it with a grain of salt.
Which team? lol. We want details.
18:48, regarding limited library, i can see someone possibly creating software to let the psvr 2 headset to be used on pc similar to the quest, like someone did for ps4 ds4 controllers.
14:38 "You're in a dystopian future and you're going to leave THAT much apple!" I nearly spat out my coffee, bloody hilarious
i need to stop finding reasons to get another vr headset
Yeahhhh...it's kinda a problem, we should probably stop, especially since i cant afford any of them lmao
your best possible reason is that the longer you wait, the better and more accessible VR will become. forget about it for a few years, it'll only get cheaper AND greater!
If you’re on pc stick with an hp reverb
@@Hyper_Light_Grifter reverb G2. Yes I am enjoying PSVR2 for the eider fov and Gran Turismo but other games the PC is so much smoother, high res and low screen door effect. It seems Linus is used to Index which is very old at this point.
I am actually flabbergasted, Like WHAT THE HELL The tech in this small headset is amazing, Eye tracking seamless resolution downscaling where you are not looking. The comfort. The resolution of the displays.
Man I wish to buy something like this when I start earning.
its not even small... look up pico 4
@@biolinkstudios How much is the Pico 4?
@@PinkManGuy $400
@@biolinkstudiosPico 4 is trash LCD though. Nothing compares with OLED.
@dtz1000 yeah but then that oled is on a ewaste platform, old shit lenses, non wireless
About "Foveated Rendering", there're actual tests in which, not the detail or sharpness are lowered, but they use ABSENCE OF COLOR (which is outstandingly more noticeable) and the user of the mechanics wouldn't tell.
Linus you got hacked my boy
Small note about charging the controllers: if you plug them in to a high enough wattage charger, they will charge while playing. I plugged them into a 35W Google Pixel fast charger, with a type-C/type-C cable that charged them fine. Not great to be tethered like that but it works. My next plan is to get a big fast charging battery pack, stick it in my pocket and run cables to the controllers lol.
its a big fault. the pico controllers run for months on one set of batteries... months!.
@@johnmachter40 yeah AA batteries are just the best, like I have a charger with 4 of em on top of my PC and use them for all my controllers and remotes. they last for weeks or months and changing them takes like 5 seconds instead of waiting hours for it to charge.
better for the environment as well, lot less E-waste.
4hrs sounds really bad, that would annoy me.
@@4879daniel just like the old windows mixed reality headsets, had to buy like 4 sets of rechargeable batteries to not go crazy
@@4879daniel 4 hours is very bad. My Quest 2 controllers literally last for like 20+ hours on some good AA's, lmao. Get some good Enerloop rechargeables and you'll be golden, unfortunately people think non-removable li-ion batteries in controllers ala every Sony controller since the DS3 is a good thing and is actually one of the features I love about Xbox controllers, the first thing I did on my Xbox One controllers was get a huge chunky rechargeable battery pack that lasts months in-between charges with moderate use.
It would be cool if it could be used with PC. The closed ecosystem is a drag.
Modders are working on it already, but they say its going to be really hard and may take a lot of time
It'll be more expensive if it works on PC. Same reason why PCVR headsets don't work on consoles.
If your argument is because Sony already has their own VR headset so why would they let other Manufacturers make their VR headsets work on their console. Then why does no manufacturer let their VR headset work on Xbox considering there is no Xbox VR in the near future?
In short it costs more to make it work on consoles like how it will cost more to make it work on PC's.
There's a reason you just can't copy paste your PC game in your external hard drive to work on your console.
Imagine the shitstirring Sony could have pulled by making it PC compatible. They'd have reignited the PC VR arms race. It's a shame.
Closed ecosystem is necessary for competition improving quality.
That's capitalism baby! Buy yourself a ps5!!!
Ltt got hacked wtf 💀💀
I bought the Quest 2 a few days ago. Playing old games like Jedi knight: Outcast, is a blast from the past. Yeah, the image is not perfect (even when you play with the settings in the Oculus or Sidequest software) , you need to buy a better head strap (I bought the Kiwi Elite strap for 50€) and a power pack is a must, because you run thru the internal battery quite fast (2 hours) and with a pack (10 000mAh USB AC 5V/3A...2,4A is minimum required by the Oculus 2, 20€ for an ADATA power pack) in your pocket, you get like 8 hrs. Especially when you have kids and they want to play. So you can charge it overnight. Definitely going to buy something better in a few years, when these things get better and the price drops like with the Oculus 2 (a bargain for 359€). And that thing for 550 is awesome.
Not sure if it gets mentioned in other comments but there is a option in psvr2 for improved VR controller tracking that puts a boarder for the other people viewing. Also there is a permanent 120fps option for the Psvr2 but you have to have the PS5 120 mode off and then turn the option on in the Psvr2 settings menu
That 120hz option for the cinematic mode. It does not affect VR titles in any way, shape or form ;p
That border option is for helping the headset tracking better, not the controllers.
Linus going "shut uuuuup ! I cant see it how can I not see it" during the "its very obvious" moment brought pure joy for me. I never had a VR headset and almost purchased Oculus Quest 2 few months ago. Very impressed with how well LMG rated this PS VR, now I want one enabled on PC to try in Bonelabs.
You can use PSVR (the old one) on PC. So I don't see any reason why PSVR2 wouldn't be available to use on PC in the near future.
Try Microsoft Office project management software--in this kind of V.R. That and C.A.D. are where this kind of headset *_live._*
@@honorablead a good reason is modders need to hack it to make it work and it may not be easy to do.
@@honorablead The people who first hacked the original PSVR said that the PSVR2 was so much more complex that they weren't sure they'd be able to hack it. The PSVR transmits video exactly like a regular monitor over HDMI, the PSVR2 doesn't.
buy yourself a used quest 2 brotha. (or pico 4)
if you have a pc you're pretty much not missing out on anything.
Wait if type c isn't capable of display port then how does nintendo do it with the switch. Do we just not notice the latency issues or with the HDMI dongles for the type c phones
DSX a third party program for dualsenses on Steam either added or are adding PSVR2 support, same people who made DS4 we all use for ps4 controllers.
VR is such a masterful form of development, and there's a lot of things that people can't see on a flat screen/without VR-specific technology. it takes a lot to make VR experiences work, including the calibration of interaxials for depth perception, correct lens convergence and in particular getting the 6 degrees of freedom right.
honestly it's great that the technology to play these games/view these types of experiences are getting cheaper and cheaper, as it takes a lot of work and care and more and more people are able to appreciate VR games now :)
charging dock for controlors from ps is very nice handy and very accessible my firstime on the ps vr was also very nice I also agree that the wires isn't in the way much but I kind of prefer my meta quest pro (yes I am rich and do have the quest 2, PSVR1/2(sold 1),quest pro
I've been using PSVR2 for a month now and I love it. Even with the limited library, I still don't have enough time to play all the games that I want to. My biggest gripe with the headset is the ridiculously tiny sweet spot.
Have you used any other headsets? Was wondering what the sweet spot was most similar to
@@Jangmo_SC Yes. PSVR1, Oculus Rift S and Valve Index. Nothing as small as the PSVR2 sweet spot.
I really wanna get it. How is the quality inside the heads up
@@Sayject It's good but It does not look as good as a 4K TV and the sweet spot is tiny. That means that it's very finicky to fit the headset in front of your eyes to get a sharp picture that is not out of focus. If you need glasses, wearing them is a must with this headset.
@@michelfortin7055 ahhh I see ok thanks 😊
Took the plunge last week and ordered one. Headset arrived around 6 days ago. Its my first vr I've owned. Nice and light, comfy, well built and nice to set up. 5 to 10 mins or so. Gt7 would be my first go, and I will say this. It is a level of immersion I had absolutely no preparation for whatsoever. I had absolutely no idea. It is fantastic.
PS5, GT7, PSVR2, T300GTE and GT Lite, easy 2K EUR out of pocket.
But it was worth it, now hopefully Valve releases Index 2 any time.
It seems that most PSVR2 users are first-time users of VR.
@@BlackParade01 my son has quest 2. Its not a patch on this.
@@nextgengaming7803 I personally prefer my Quest 2 over my PSVR2.
Wireless VR is always better (it's truly "next-gen").
Sharper visuals without any mura.
Better comfort if you get a Kiwi strap.
More reliable tracking.
Portable!
@@Filip10101that’s the vignette in horizon. You can turn it off in the settings.
This thing coupled with the Pulse 3D headset has been an absolutely wild time
With Woojer series 3 haptic vest, it become reality
@andy sky that'll be a bit too much immersion for me. In RE8, I was terrified of that first lycan attack on regular 2d. It was intense reliving that on psvr2. I can imagine wearing a haptoc vest.
@@sitizenkanemusic for resident evil 8, i turn down the woojer haptic intensity way down. LOL
And a sweaty time lol
Play it with an h9 headset!!! Now your talking chefs 💋
They really missed the mark not using pancake lenses. That's the one thing I'm going to be looking for in an upgrade, beyond resolution, comfort, and price. They could have really future-proofed there. And other companies will match Sony's display in the next year or two. Also, I just don't have a PS5, or plan to get one specifically for VR. By nature of the tech, PC will always be superior in this area, granted you have the money, or a beast of a rig. Even if it's your opinion that a matching HMD isn't out YET, the potential is just greater than console's, as far as the hardware is concerned.
Also, I think you should have streamed the Quest 2 on Virtual Desktop. Not really a genuine comparison, when you're running it the worst way possible. But maybe you were just going for a hardcore, cabled performance comparison, since the PSVR2 is a cabled experience. But I still think that's shorting the Q2's capabilities (budget LCD HMD that it is). I would think we would want both tech at its best for the best comparison. Then we could hone in more on the true differences, like resolution/display. Many people are just not playing cabled at this point, whether it's through stock Airlink or VD.
The downside of it not tracking your hands properly when not infront of your face is a super big dealbreaker to me, I’ve been using a first gen HTC vive since release and have repaired the controllers several times for pad-stick issues, but when stuff doesn’t track properly when not in view, that’s a dealbreaker to me, i’d take screendoor effect instead of improper tracking anyday of the week
GT7 in VR is straight up insanity, there is nothing in gaming that even compares to that feeling, shit is beyond realistic
Well, Assetto Corsa in VR
@@Darxxxide not the same without HDR, but still a great experience in VR
@@Darxxxide GT7 offers a better VR experience imo
Is it worth trying even with just normal controller?
@@ZNKK1 yes absolutely, there is a setting that lets you use gyro controls from the controller meaning when you turn your controller right it goes right and it works shockingly well
Not RGB sub-pixels it's a pentile OLED. It's using a screen diffuser to try and eliminate SDE but it makes the image softer as a result.
I still don’t understand that the quest pro eye tracking is barely used on pc, and no native support if you install it. Only by setting it up with additional software 💀
This is a really good, and convincing review. It makes me want to get the PSVR2 now.
Love the Foveated rendering. We can see it on the TV screen but you can't. But that is the whole point of FR. You only have that one tiny region in focus. Thanks for showing that. It looks like Sony have implemented FR as promised and it is the game changer that we thought it would be. Very cool. Excellent review.
Wish more headsets come with eye tracking. FR should be standard for all vr platforms, the performance/visual quality boost is insane.
@Bingus
Didn't say who created FR or whatever. My point is that not all headsets supports eye tracking, which you'll need to take full advantage of foveated rendering.
@Bingus
I'm saying to take full advantage of foveated render, I would think you need eye tracking. I'm not one of those people who always look straight ahead. I look around my eyes. Otherwise people would have to train themselves to always look straight. No one in this thread said Sony is being innovative. But the price vs performance view, they are doing a lot. Don't care what Sony says though, just how they implement it. Likewise, doesn't matter if IFR already exist if nobody really uses it, hence why I said more headsets should have eye tracking. FR alone is worth the extra hardware alone.
@Bingus
What part of full advantage do you not understand? You do need eye tracking for full advantage. There's little compromise with eye tracking and a lot of compromise with no eye tracking.
The fact that foveated rendering is not being that much for psvr, which you can argue they need it the most, means FR is not being used all that much in the market.
This is my first venture into VR with the PSVR2, and I am beyond impressed. I got the CotM bundle, RE8, No Man's Sky, Pavlov, and Star Wars TftG with the charging station in tow. Waiting on Among Us VR.
It’s important that you also get GT7. Just sayin.
Unless you have a force-feedback wheel already, choose the option to use the DS5 controller as a motion-sensing virtual wheel. It works FAR better than it should. No need to have any history of liking racing games.
Also… CONGRATULATIONS!! 🎉🥳
There's an among us mod on Pavlov XD
GT7 not being here is a huuuge miss.
Make sure to pre order "Dark Pictures: Switchback" Will be one for the ages!!!
GT7 + Steering wheel in VR is one of the best gaming experiences ever. The sensation of presence in the game world is incredible. I always found the Daytona circuit quite bland, but seeing how steep the banked curves are in VR has given me a new found appreciation for the track.
I wonder why these headsets have yet to install a camera or 2 in the back strap to avoid that inside-out tracking issue with bows and such.
Btw the rainbow on white objects are happening because the wearment when you dont wear it right i have seen them too after i kinda set it up it was gone
As a long time Adopter of PCVR , I was actually floored by how incredible the PSVR2 was. It really is amazing. I never understood the PCVR tribalism and why PC users push back against it so much. Sony is probably the BIGGEST player in VR gaming entering 2023 and I embrace everything they are doing. I hope PCVR follows suit with cheaper pricing. Really looking forward to what type of Exclusive VR content Sony will release in the future . There is a rumor they are working on a Metal Gear Solid VR game which would be a gamechanger for me
Exactly. Competition is GOOD b/c it raises our expectations and it raises the bar for the entire industry. Just look at smartphones before and after the iPhone. Everyone had to make smartphones at a higher standard or face extinction.
Also, thank you for the mental image of metal gear VR. The dream of putting a box over me and scuttling down a hallway with clenched butt cheeks won't leave me now.
Anything OLED is going to be so much better than the crappy LCD headsets we are used to. Well done Sony for showing Meta and others how VR should be done.
@@dtz1000 all these people including you commenting this nonsense, yet the PSVR2 headset has a fucking screendoor effect that looks like a film grain filter. It's tethered, requires base stations And PS5, can't play anything non-sony, and it goes on.
Sure OLED is better but PSVR2 is nowhere near perfect, not even plain better, it just has different pros and cons than other headsets around the same price range. Let's not overhype what it is, as I'm seeing non-VR people thinking this is some high end solution.
@@dizydeus So what if it's got screendoor effect. It's going to be nothing compared to what I had on my Quest 1. Yet I still had more memorable experiences with that headset than I had on Quest 2 thanks to its OLED display.
First of all, PCVR is cheaper. The Index is ancient technology at this point. All the other ones are cheaper. Second, the main reason PSVR is worse is because the PlayStation will not let you download stuff off of a regular browser and has nothing like Steam Workshop. As such, the two biggest VR games, Beat Saber and VRChat, lose a massive part of their appeal (I do not even think you can get VRChat or anything like it on PSVR).
That PSVR2 headset is insane as a headset, but you can expect PCVR to have a similar headset soon, which will take all the advantages PSVR has right now away, leaving PCVR once again the clear choice for anyone looking to get into VR. All of this is not even taking account of the fact that people with neither a PC nor a PS5 can get into VR for only $400 if they go with a Quest 2. The Quest 2 is still my go to recommendation for people who have an interest in VR. There may be exceptions for certain situations where I might recommend PSVR2 instead, but most people would still be best off buying a Quest 2. I do agree that PCVR should follow in Sony's footsteps, but I think it is reasonable to not be interested in PSVR and to even recommend people avoid it.
Really want a killer VR experience that doesn't cost $1000, but as a PC gamer already, having to shell out for a PS5 to even make it work would quickly put it up there. It's great to see innovation in the tech, though, so that we might see it in other things soon.
quest 2 is pretty much the price most people are willing to pay and that one includes phone inside.
I got a quest 2 i use wirelessly with a 20,000mah power bank hooked on my hip. I get hours, i mean hours, of gameplay and im happy with it. Big recommendation is to get any and i mean any third party head strap. The straps that come with it in the box will dig in and bring you pain.
I'm willing to get $1000+ VR headset, but it needs to be worth the $1000+. I have had a Quest 2 for years and am waiting for something worth the money.
@@ligametis yeah dude... but a quest 2 sucks
legit just get a Rift S or OG Rift used if you have bought a new GPU in last 6 years. I will never understand quest users who also have a gaming pc, like idgaf about mobile gaming & I definitely dont want to experience facebook funded mobile gaming in VR lol
just save and get an index my man, finally bit the bullet and threw away my quest 2, so worth it!
What about opening up Valve index and replacing displays for a better ones? For me the most painful aspect of psvr are games and lack of modding ability, like music in beat saber
Bought a PSVR2 for $150 by stroke of luck/right place right time with its charging cradle included. Gotta say, amazing piece of technology and is awesome for games like No Mans Sky, Pistol Whip, and most especially, Gran Turismo 7. Been playing this headset for 4 weeks straight. My switch has been massively neglected lol
Still using a Vive Pro and one of these days I'll jump into a new headset like this and it'll be extra awesome
I've been rocked my OG Vive since 2017, so I'll really be in for a treat.
Why when there has been minimal of new games. Makes no sense!
@@MightBeSmart "one of these days" means at some point in the future. It makes perfect sense.
Still got the first oculus rift lol. Not used it for a while but I do want to upgrade. The wires and sensors were just a massive issue for me, half the time they just did not work.
I got the vr2 on launch after only ever using my vive I got back in 2016. VR has come so far between early VR and where we are now. The headset is truly amazing. Played RE8 on it and the quality is there. Also, a single cable with 5 minutes of setup is the best thing about this headset.
If you use the Quest 2 battery pack strap with a silicon cover its becomes significantly more comfortable. The weight of the battery in the back plus the rigidity of the strap balances the weight much better. We bought 3 silicone covers to put over the foam ones because my wife and I sweat way too much playing beat saber and trading off was disgusting. This way when we trade off we just swap the silicone out and its way cleaner. I also find it more comfortable, the cover does not grate so much against my skin.
We imported a Pico4 VR headset and am quite happy with it compared to a quest 2. Still no OLED, but otherwise specs are better for about the same price. Would be interested in seeing you all review one.
Quest > Pico > Focus
This headset does kind of signal that Sony is preparing to go full on for VR, which hopefully means that they have a lot of cool VR games lined up for the PS5 as well.
Hi from the future, psvr2 is dead
Tell that to RE4 VR
@@7Cs11that’s one game bro, and it’s also a port lol
PSVR2 already dead. Rest in peace 10 months old headset 😢
@@7Cs11 for a gaming platform to be successful it needs to have a plethora of games to choose from not just a handful of games, PlayStation and devs both know it costs a lot of money to port and make games and the ends have to justify the means so devs are more than likely not interested in making games for it. If there’s no money in it why bother
Me and my friend played After the Fall and Kayak VR for like 5 hours yesterday. It was both our first experience with VR and was a blast. I hadn't had that much fun gaming in a looooong time
I've been playing VR for 7 years. Believe me the excitement will die down. I used to play PCVR MWFs and PSVR Tues,Thurs,Sats. Now only once a week
U need to play gran turismo in vr with a racing seat and racing wheel and pedals haha
Sony has a winner with this fr.
The fact that the Index is still the bar despite releasing June 2019 (we're closer to four years than we are to three) says quite a bit about how little PCVR has really progressed. Realistically, I don't see anyone beside Valve making anything that beats this for gaming. With the profit from Steam, they can afford to waste money in VR hardware, even if projected profits aren't particularly high. Attracting people to PC is an investment for them. Facebook/meta seem to be pulling back on VR after significantly over investing, plus their ecosystem sucks. Not really interested in console VR though, library is too limited. If we could use the headset on PC I'd be in.
If Valve could make an affordable along with premium VR headset, then they could make profits easily.
If Valve would get off their asses and make a 4k updated Index I'd buy it in a heartbeat and retire my Reverb G2/Index controller hybrid and just use pure SteamVR. But HDR is a must for a VR headset. I've been advocating for it for as long as consumer VR has existed that we need a higher dynamic range for VR to be more convincing. We need deep blacks and eye burning whites. Console is a complete no go for me so I'll never have a PSVR. Also HMD tracked controllers are also a no go. Controllers MUST have their own positional tracking, whether by lighthouses, cameras on the controllers, or external tracking like the original Rift. Losing tracking of the controllers at any point is a complete deal breaker. Plus the future of VR has to be body tracking capable.
Pimax has headsets on par stat wise or better than the index but their prices are also absurdly high
Unless Sony just makes this natively compatible with PC. Which very much could happen with how much more Sony produced games we're getting on PC now. If we ever see more and more Dual Sense compatibility with PC I think that might be a good indicator that the PSVR2 is going to get a PC update.
@@StygianIkazuchi Yeah, seems like all the new shinies in the past few years have been business oriented.
You can get headsets with crazy high resolution, high refresh rate, and wide FoV, but they're over a grand just for the headset.
Linus: 14:10 "There's nothing you can really do about it."
My brain: (*Camera on the back*)
I've been using VR since it showed up on the market back in the heavyweight and totally uncomfortable likes of Samsung's Odyssey headset. The Quest 2 definitely gets my nod for a great all-around headset for all VR users on a budget. It will do what it needs to do without paying "quality" prices. Quality VR headsets do provide more comfort but for functionality, the Quest 2 beats anything on the market. I'm going to play some music and SEGUE out of here to my next project. Great video guys. Take care.
Just a quick tip for people that are used to the first gen PSVR, you need to seat the headband allot lower in the back on this one to get a clear image.
Never used psvr1. But I had this exact problem in the beginning with psvr2.
I find the sweet spot seems to be smaller on PSVR2. If the position is off just a little bit you get the halos on text and high contrast edges.
10:37 i did that my 1st time in RE7 for PSVR1 with a Plant lol. PSVR2 & RE8 definitely Awesomeness.
This video sold me on a PSVR2, never thought a console VR would be able to do this
I actually laughed out loud when he said the Google cardboard next to the tissue box. That is some subtle adult humor right there🤣
I'd say post pubescent humor since that's not qualified as an adult in most cultures today. I think most US teen men would understand
Such is their humor with a nearly 40 year old millennial: Stuck there, barely beyond, and are the adults in the room the last 19 years.
@@j.ballsdeep420the irony in your comment with a name of ballsdeep420
One thing to remember about the quest 2 is that by default the bitrate is pathetically low by default. You'll get about 10 mbits when you can go up to 250 with tray tool or oculus debug. That eliminates 95% of compression artifacts. Funny enough if you use airlink you get a bitrate slider in your dashboard and it looks very good there as well.
It's funny how oculus software tests your USB cable at 2.8gbps and then sets the transfer speed so low.. I actually switched to Airlink as it currently run perfect smooth at 120hz but USB link is full of dropped frames ;/
@@Blix8 use the debug tool thats built into the oculus app on PC. you can change encode resolution and bitrate. it is miles better than airlink. unfortunately the default settings are just terrible for link, and the official 80$ link cable is over priced for what you get. watch Get hips video on how to do it, he explains it well. Type "GetHip
Stop Using Your Link Cable Wrong... (Oculus Quest 2)" into search and its at the 5:52 mark
Mine ran in 100mbit by default
Quest 2 is nice for what it cost since its an all in one solution, but for latency and tracking its way behind the original Rift and of course newer wired PCVR headset with outside in tracking lol
You should've played beat saber on both VR sets to have a more accurate comparison