"River, You Know My Name..." | Forest of the Dead | Doctor Who
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- As River Song prepares to make the ultimate sacrifice, it's discovered that she knows the Doctor's name. Taken from the episode "The Forest of the Dead." Subscribe: bbc.in/Subscri...
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"You and me, time and space. You watch us run" this scene is AMAZING! This episode will always be one of doctor who's best.
💙💙
Rewatching this scene, knowing River;s full story makes it so much more beautiful- I love it
Doctor Who . instead of posting a doctor who clip you should post a Sarah Jane adventure clip for the 10th year aniversary
Anyone know what the music is called? Especially for 2:10 - 2:25...
Nah... I found it... ua-cam.com/video/uc7GS6ZxeCs/v-deo.html
And to think that Alex did this without ever having filmed those scenes or even having had a concept for what they would be, and yet the emotion she displayed.....oof
Brent Dreher She was "Fantastic"!
I feel like they gave her insider knowledge, like how they did with Snape in Harry Potter, to let her know what was gonna be happening in her future in the show so she'd know.
Mark Fuston except that Moffat hadn’t even worked out the majority of her story by then, or even know if he would get take charge of the show until around when The Specials year was announced months later. And even then, he thought he’d still have David on the cast by the time he was writing Amy Pond’s story, even finishing out an outline arc of how Series 5 would go with David, which essentially shoves the whole Trenzalore storyline into Series 5 where the battle of Trenzalore is what finally turns David into... Matt?
@@joeuphonium True, I guess maybe he might've gave her the ideas he had? I'm sure he must've had a plan for if he got to do it, and maybe he told her some of that in the hopes he'd get to actually make it come to life, and to make her understand the character a little better.
@@markfuston2714 Moffat back then didn't have any ideas about Rivers charachter ,he was planing to get her back only 2 times nothing more..Later he changed his mind
This was the saddest moment in the series and we didn't even know it at the time.
I'm not crying.
That was a lie.
Honestly I think that’s why it was the saddest...
Because not even the Doctor knew how much she really meant to him at the time, and because of that River had to die with a stranger instead of her husband.
😥
The Fat Controller rose Tyler
"The day’s coming when I’ll look into that man’s eyes-my Doctor-and he won’t have the faintest idea who I am. And I think it’s going to kill me."
Samantha Sunwatcher well, thanks, it's not like i needed my heart or anything 😢
Same.. ;(
What episode was that quote from?
William Somerton The Impossible Astronaut S6 ep1 ;)
Argh! My hearts!
Am I the only one impressed that river just decks the doctor and knocks him out cold?
yea no way would she be strong enough to throw a ko punch haha
She takes after her father: Rory "Hitler-Puncher" Williams
when your has has the balls to walk up and punch Hitler in the fae, you know you've got something to live up to, lol
Suraj Opinion is Never Better Well the doctor hit his head after the punch knocked him over so.
Her entire life was dedicated to killing him and she succeeded. Only person to do so. She gave up her regen cycles for him (probably why it continued on with capaldi and now foster). We only saw river regenerate a few times, as a kid then growing to an adult river song that we know.
Doctor: Time can be rewritten
River: Not those times, not one line don’t you dare
At the doctors death
River: time can be rewritten
Doctor: don’t you dare
Yup
Reverse, reverse!
@@jonathansauceda589 The Doctor learnt it from River and River learnt it from the Doctor, Paradox right there lol
Vestorium I think that was the point in a way
From rivers point of view, its the other way round..
Whether or not you liked River Song, you have to admit that her story, her timeline, and her sacrifice were remarkable! That line about Darillium is so emotional
Absolutely. I never liked her that much, but Moffat handled her out-of-order character arc outstandingly. One of the best parts of his era.
Bristi Chakrabarti - The only thing that didn't make a lot of sense to me was when she 'kills' The Doctor and then suddenly seems to have such a change of heart she gives up her own regeneration power to save him. Seemed a little quickly forced to me...kinda like the opposite of Anakin Skywalker suddenly becoming evil in STAR WARS.
Exactly how I feel!
Bristi Chakrabarti She was programmed to kill him, she did not really want to kill him.
xnonsuchx She didnt want to kill him and she saw who she'd become to him and it changed it. She realized she could change.
"Time can be rewritten" How were we to know how significant that one small line would become over the next 5 years.
You mean Amy saying 5 billion times?
Of course time can't be rewritten, who told you that?!
I wish I can...😥
If something is in Flux, that means a fixed point has been rewritten and needs to be stopped but there are ways to rewrite time that makes it so something has changed but nothing has had the butterfly effect:
Clara's death:
The Doctor couldn't bare her death so he brought a version of her from the end of her timeline, she will go back the long way round, now able to live longer, immortal, all the time she wants and it doesn't affect anything because she will go back to the machine and back to face the raven.
The Tesselecta (IDK HOW SPELT SORRY):
The Tessecelecta, a time travelling robot with miniaturised people of justice takes the Doctor's place to die so the Doctor could live. The Universe accepted this as _"the doctor's death"_ but it wasn't. But it was fixed. Why isn't this in Flux? The Tesselecta was shaped as the Doctor, he same words and emotions as the Doctor was actually controlling it meaning it could pass as a chance and with all the voices in the sky, the Doctor was able to live.
Edit: THOUGHT OF A NEW ONE:
The Pyrovillians
The Doctor wasn't allowed to change a Fixed point in time that was actually in Flux. The reason is he was with and he had knowledge of this event meaning it was create a flux flux moment. He had to let Pyrovillians turn their Flux to fixed.
It had an insisted-upon significance, like a lot of things that Moffat wrote. "Tell don't show" was an annoying habit of his.
This is so heartbreaking. The Doctor meets his love. His greatest love and he doesn’t even know it. And he watches as she dies when they first meet. This was probably always in the back of his head forever
I'm thinking maybe that is part of the reason she becomes her greatest love too, the doctor hates goodbyes, always dreads the moment he has to part with the ones he loves, but with River this part is already behind him... Maybe that lifts the weight from him a little ?
he must’ve had some hope when she whispered his name is his ear since it would mean he would love someone again after losing rose, for it to be stripped away when she dies, that’s why he’s so broken at the end
@@MrHarrystank I don't mean he would be happy about it, I meant that sometimes having certainty compared to doubt is a kind of relief. He had to leave Dona behind to protect her, to push away Rose for her own happinness, etc. With River he somehow knows she will at least get to this point, so he doesn't need to worry or dread this happening until it does, well, did.
It's all wibbely wobbely so who knows really ;)
He even tries to stop this one event from happening. By just, not going to Darillium. "Now I know why you always kept cancelling." - River
There's also the fact when he saw her again at the Byzantium, he just wanted to leave; he didn't want the library to ever happen.
I guess that 'a new haircut and a suit' meant 12, the NEW Doctor for her then. I loved the husbands of river song, it all circled together.
And it's a line Peter's doctor says right before he realises who he's talking to
Who made the sonice
@@ssssSTopmotion 12th
"Melody... You look after him. You be a good girl and look after him."
And River Song kept true to her mother's dying wish until her death.
What a remarkable, extraordinary, selfless woman! ❤❤❤❤❤
oh god yes!
The more you think about this scene the more depressing it gets
it you makes you realize that in the new who, the ponds unlike the other companions were really the Doctor's family, and unlike others, they knew they can't be with him forever.
@@shadowgirlreiesu8949 you make me depressed too 😭
@@toonbou7254 aw I'm sorry!
I just realized "What, I'm not allowed to have a carrier, I suppose?" was supposed to sound like a wife talking to her husband and it just now hit me how in depth they planned this out so far in advance
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They loved giving them lines like those. In "Big Bang", Eleven vortexes into the TARDIS and says to her "Hi, honey, I'm home", and she glances at her wrist and said "And what sort of time d'you call this?"
Moffat actually didn't plan to bring her back. Watch the 2017 steven moffat interview on the fan show.
"You took me to darillium to see the singing towers"
Oh my god. He did. He took her to....
I'm going to curl up in a ball and cry now.
Yeah, "The Husbands of River Song" finally rounded off her story. The Doctor even gave her the repaired and modified remains of 10's screwdriver in the episode, so everything lines up with this episode.
What about the handcuffs?
@@insanecrusader379 its what happened after the dinner *lenny face*
Holy crap, why did I just notice this? WHY!!!
@@wanderingbufoon Yup, they did have 24 years after all..lol
-Why do you even have handcuffs?
-SPOILERS!
Well, we never really learned why, did we?
Use you're imagination ;)
The Doctor yeah we do, she was at storm cage
Also, she is River. Of course she has handcuffs
The Doctor we may not but YOU do
She was in prison for killing the "Doctor"
Donna Noble has left the library. Donna Noble has been saved.
I read it in the computer automated voice xD
Vanessa Turner i know this but i can’t remember from where?? where??
I first watched this episode after getting in from the pub the night after it first broadcast - one tip: don't watch this one when drunk, it plays merry havoc with your head 😂😂😂
Hey, who turned off the lights?
We should go! Doctor!!
I remember meeting Alex at a ComicCon convention and listening to her talk about the show. She said she always had some sort of goodbye to her characters, a way of moving on. But with River, she didn't have that, she had already filmed her death scene (this episode) and her last moments on Doctor Who was that Christmas episode with Peter Capaldi. She felt really weird leaving River at a weird spot and didn't know what to do with herself. Anyway, thought that was a fun but sad little note to share.
She finished at hello.
@@korisx Brutal! but true. :( .... although she's been saved so I think a future writer can and will bring her back and reunite them! Alex has said she would love that.
@@spc1612 I would love that
@@korisx Me too!! I love River, she's such a fantastic character ... and Alex Kingston is such an amazing actress!
"Not those times; not one line, don't you dare"
My heart...!
1:30 "Time can be rewritten!" "Not those times! NOT ONE LINE! DON'T YOU DARE!" This gets me in the feels every single damned time.
Honestly season 4 might just be my favourite season of Doctor Who.
It's my favorite season of New Who.
It was the first brand new season of Doctor Who I saw after I became a Whovian.
Doctor Who UA-cam agrees
If i need to watch an episode of Doctor Who (which I often do on a bad day or when I need to relax) I instinctively go to season four and everytime I have shown the show to people I always tell them season four is the best and they have always agreed with me when we have watched together
Naaah season 5 is the best
I remember watching this for the first time. It’s a testimony to how well the show was written because it really _felt_ like an important character was dying, even though we’d only just met River.
Agreed! Alex is an amazing actress -- she portrayed this depth before their entire story/arc was known or even written!
"River you know my name
You whispered my name in my ear
There's only one reason I would ever tell anyone my name
There's only one time I could."
When did he tell her his name? Because the wedding of river song proved it wasn’t when they married (unless his name is “lookinto myeyes”).
@@vullord666 well, the wedding supposed to be real. Just not the name part. I think maybe he did it off screen, after the wedding. At their honeymoon
@@valdagrimborn465 Hard to say. That feels like the Doctor just being weird. River herself claims that it took *forever* for her to get him to finally tell her. My bet is on him telling her during the night on Darillium.
River was in The Doctor's crib as a baby. The Doctor's name is written on that crib. It wasn't translated because the TARDIS does not translate Galifrayan, but River, being part Time Lord, can read Galifrayan, and so she learned his name from the crib...The Doctor never tells her his name.
@@bryanrosensteel3331 But can babies read? That's the real question. 😂
I really wish Donna found that guy...he was perfect for her ;-;
Ari A IKR. I was so sad
That was awful. Donna deserved to find him. ♡
The only problem was that he was from the future. If he let slip anything about the future it could trigger her doctor memories and kill her.
She looked for him for what...five minutes before she gave up? By the next episode, he was forgotten. Doesn't seem like she was all that into him if she gave up so easily.
Donna and Lee should never have been parted.
In this moment I cried ... and I was satisfied... But, now I know, she is so GOOD.
I only cried after rewatching the episode, because, then, I really knew what it meant.
Me too mate...
Steven knew back then that he'll be head writer so he was getting he's plot ready for season 5 and 6 in season 4
Rewatching this now made me realise how amazing this scene really was and how well constructed River's storyline really was
Specially after rewatching The husbands of River Song
Ten's run really shows how the Doctor is finally opening himself back up to the possibility of romance, love, and even a family life, but has those hopes repeatedly ripped away from him. He fears it's impossible. River Song is proof that what he wants can/will actually be possible. And he is helpless as he watches her die, both fearing the heartache of and clinging to the hope of what their story will bring to his future.
"Not those times. Not one line. ... Except for the part where we run into Hitler. Maybe that part."
That was the most important one, you high?
“Rory put Hitler in the closet.”
@@sherlockowiec1693 yea but the episode wasnt good so maybe some rewriting is in order
@HQ Hitler
Cupboard
Cupboard
Hitler
Watching this for the first time I was like who is this lady? Ah well bye. And then watching the whole of rivers story unfold, it KILLS me watching this. BABY NOO
"- You can let me do this !"
- If you die here it will mean I never met you
"- Time can be rewritten."
**Not those times**
**Not one line, don't you dare**
This, this are the best lines of the episode, and of much more, to me.
I did not see her history yet, but what beautiful lines it is. It means so much, it is amazing. I love it.
River is my fav character by far.
I love her sooo much, her storyline was brilliant!
she's my favorite too
"Everyone dies alone, but if you mean something to someone, if you help someone, or love someone, if even a single person remembers you, then maybe you never really die at all." "And what I've found is that often the moment in a person's life that matters the most, when you truly know who they were and why they did what they did is often their last one."
Rayozaku I
Definitely my favorite character.
Since we don't see Donna again and there's no mention of him, it's easy for me to forget that there are TWO lovers that are separated in this episode. River and the Doctor, as well as Donna and her husband. It's chilling to imagine how Donna lived out a mini lifetime with this man, who turns out to be real, yet they never reunite.
Donna ends up forgetting all of her adventures with the Doctor, including her husband, but her husband probably never forgot.
I kinda wish there was a reference to him or more scenes with him in future episodes, or at least before Donna's arc ended. Maybe it wasn't as meaningful as River, but the concept alone is huge.
I agree. This doesn't get mentioned a lot, but Donna had this beautiful connection with this man. It's still heartbreaking that Donna forgets it all, including this mini lifetime, as you call it. Wilf said sometimes she seems to have a deep sadness ... there's a part of her that is unconsciously aware of the loss, I feel.
Same
Doctor, Lord among Timelords. The most clever being in the whole of time can't think of reaching his screw driver with his legs
or remember that it can be voice activated. Well, at least it will be by the time of "Deep Breath." Maybe this scene is why. Still didn't help. What a brilliant idiot.
I just love how people just agree with this comment
So true xd
That was also bugging me too
This was such a sad ending for Donna and the Doctor. Makes me tear up everytime.
"Everyone dies alone, but if you mean something to someone, if you help someone, or love someone, if even a single person remembers you, then maybe you never really die at all." "And what I've found is that often the moment in a person's life that matters the most, when you truly know who they were and why they did what they did is often their last one."
What’s sad is that she’s dying, she’s the one who’s losing it all. Yet she’s the one being strong for him. And he looks into her eyes with no familiarity.
God that’s beautiful man
"Why do even have handcuffs?!?" "Spoilers!" The devilish way she said that, I just... She is such a phenomenal actress. River, best character ever.
This defines the glory of Doctor who. This has become such a massive and sad moment in Doctor Who history but we didn't know why till years later...that's time travel there...
"why do you even have hand cuffs?"
"Spoilers"
Jesus Christ xD
Handcuffs
Well, they are married
Well we know she's a screamer (season 6)
@@bemasaberwyn55 😏😏😏😏😏
I guess the doctor's Into that Lol
Years later, two doctors later, and the death of River hits only harder in retrospect.
Brilliantly done. :'(
I love how rivers character arc travels backwards it’s the most insane and amazing thing I’ve honestly ever seen a tv series do
All I ask BBC is that you DON'T, and I repeat DON'T bring back River Song. I loved her as a character however 'The Last Night' rounded off her story perfectly.
Some things don't need to be brought back for the sake of it.
Alexander Mills the last night?
Last Christmas I meant
Alexander Mills nay, you meant "The Husbands of River Song."
Alexander Mills nay, you meant "The Husbands of River Song."
But, considering River Song/Melody Pond is a time lord, they could theoretically bring River Song back as A MAN! That could be interesting
Catherine Tate's acting is so good in this episode. "I'll find you!!" still hits me all these years later. Donna Noble: Best companion.
Rogue Video And the subdued performance near the end where Donna acknowledges that “alright” is Time Lord for “not alright at all” and instead of making a huge point about it sits with the Doctor as they both grieve for who they’ve each lost.
@@jbcatz5 Yes! I love that.
@@jbcatz5 yes so beautifully done!!
"Now and then, every once in a very long while, every day in a million days, when the wind stands fair, and the Doctor comes to call ... everybody lives.”
I don't care that we never found out the Doctor's name, I really don't. But I do care that we never found out how River knows the Doctor's name.
Smoothdawg she made him tell her. I think she says this in her final episode (when Matt Smith kisses her ghost goodbye). But you’re right. It’s implied there’s a specific reason he would tell her (such as being his wife).
I think that's what the 11th doctor told her on their wedding day when he whispered in her ear.
@@mizjohs exactly
they had 24 years on darillium seeing the towers, plenty of time to find out
@@jonasb7211 That very episode says it isn't, that he was lying, and that he whispered 'Look into my eye'.
The most likely moment on screen was when he whispered to her as he died in Let's Kill Hitler.
Can we just give it up for Alex for the fact that this is her first time on Doctor Who and yet she knew nothing about her character and what she would do and yet she pulled off such an amazing performance as if she did. What an amazing actress
2:48
When you see a lit meme but you've already reloaded.
Jahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
Im dying 😂
So, I could happily just watch the Doctor and River episodes in a continuous loop and be perfectly happy. It's such a great story.
0:58
"I have a new haircut. This is my best suit!"
"That's not even a suit."
Her last word “Spoilers” always sends shivers down my spine.....
1:34
Ignoring that thats the exchange of lines 11 and river had when she was in the space suit david really had such a RAW growl when he said that and its awesome
This scene is why I love River so much
This needs to be recut with flashbacks to the episode she's referring to from the Capaldi years.
themaskedcrusader there's fan edits out there that show it perfectly.
I watched one the night after the husbands of river song and cried at its perfection. I'll find it if I can, tomorrow. X
Beverley Rainford 1 year later
@@SpyFish tomorrow, just you wait haha
someone has
@@TheoPembo. its been 6 months bro!
You watch this episode first years ago and find it very touching. Then you watch their relationship unfold and grow and then you watch this scene again. Time has been rewritten with tears now.
I didn't need the heart anyway. Lucky I have a second one for backup.
Sabiha Sayeed You one lucky gallifreyan.
Indeed he/she is I lost my heart watching this and I'm afraid I'm not as lucky
Also how do you cope with one heart
I'm now reading this in the voice of the Master.
The biggest sacrifice she made and at this point in time we didn't even know how great she was of a character yet
I want everyone, specially you Chibnall, to notice how ambitious, unique and well written was River's story
I am glad they saw her timeline through to the end. It makes the scene that much more deep.
To kill a Whovian:
Make them watch these:
Time of The Doctor
End of Time Pt 1 & 2
Bad Wolf & Parting Of The Ways
Army of Ghosts & Doomsday
The Angels Take Manhattan
Face The Raven
Silence in The Library & Forest of The Dead
Twice Upon a Time
You mean all of the times someone we’ve been emotionally invested in dies?
It's always sad when someone beloved leaves Dr Who, but the only episode that truly broke me was Donna leaving the TARDIS. Damn that episode. Damn it to hell.
You forgot Father's Day, The Girl in the Fireplace, Human Nature/The Family of Blood, Turn Left, The Stolen Earth/Journey's End, Heaven Sent and World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls. :)
@@Mrazmatmahmood no I didn't. I love those episodes.
Survival
Just watched the Husbands of River Song again, and it's just such a perfect timey-wimey thing, and it's amazing how the show makes you cry with a brand new character, and then it makes you cry again because you know it will die, because you have seen it. And although there are a few details which doesn't quite match in both episodes, it's amazing to make these long arcs to work. I mean, this episode was like 10 years ago and they do each series individually, so it's amazing the way they make it work. Good job!
"Oh God, I hope you're real"- that line from Donna breaks my heart. :(
Her husband stopping and just asking "Am I real?" gets me.
_River doing a thing that's really scientific and may also cause death._
Doctor: Oh no, no no no, what are you doing? That's my job!
oh-
😭😭😭😭 the fact that she was planned out before she reoccured is amazing. They mention the crash of the ship, screwdriver, singing towers.
The doctor, even though he didn't know her aswell at point, knows how she dies and that she is safe
Watching this episode for the first time and in order: "It's sad, some random woman dies"
Watching this episode after season 10 : "OMG, NO! River Dies"
You mean Season 9
This scene always make me cry! And boy do I miss David Tennant as the Doctor...
"You wouldn't have a chance and neither would I!" Makes soooo much sense now!! God I love this show!!😍😍
This scene is so well acted, written, and directed. One of the best scenes every
0:12 Love that PUNCH sound!👊
The way the emotion builds up, is the favorite way I saw her looking at the Doctor for the first time and giving up her life for someone he barely knew. Glad the Doctor found her again and kept reliving any wonderful thing about her
I'm crying all over again. I love her so much.
That punch was legendary! I love River so much💕! Alex Kingston and David Tennant slayed this scene! I wish we could have seen more of Ten and River.
We did not know how important of a character Dr. Song was as we watched her die. And everything is more heartbreaking when we began to understand why she gave up her life for a supposed stranger. The Doctor always knowing how she dies, but unable to tell her. The chills, the feels.
The first time I saw this, I only found it mildly sad. Now, I cry every damn time.
After watching up to the episode where they went to the towers
This episode hurts when you think about how much pain river felt being looked at by the doctor as if she was a stranger
I doubt there will ever be a time when I am not going to cry watching this.
"Lux can manage without me... but you can't."
Oh god, she's talking about his future. All the times they've met, all the times River has saved Eleven, or Amy, or Rory...
Nobody realised just how important River was when this episode first aired
It's so strange being able to come back and watch this scene since nothing's availabel on US netflix again - After watching the 11th doctor this scene hits a million times harder
River Song was like a perfect character. Rewatching this after all that’s happened it’s pretty amazing.
The Darilium thing hits so hard after watching The Husbands of River Song :(
I love River Song, she was one of the first characters I was introduced to when I started watching.
PS:This scene also gets more painful knowing River fulfilled her mother's last wish to look after him
To think we can go from this beautifully written and scored story to the utter tripe that is the latest series. What a sad fall from grace.
She died in front of her husband who didn't even know her. She sacrificed everything for her husband who didn't even meet her yet.
And what is worse, is still in love with Rose at this time
oh he knew who she was when she told him his name, then Lux went on about them being an old married couple, he knew, he knew!!
Alex Kingston had this challenge of selling the idea she and the Doctor had already been on this journey. And the reverse challenge in The Husbands of River Song, where she as an actress knew where the story was leading but had to block that out.
The 1st time you watch this episode it’s like 'meh whatever' but after River’s saga - you just cry. At least I cry - every time.
R.I.P River song she had a perfect send off and how it all rounded up to it was just fantastic!
Because of this episode, I got into doctor who just 3 months ago : and I watched it all, from season 1 to season 9 and I am in love. Rewatching this breaks my heart.
Can we just take a moment and admire the absolute brilliant work of Murray Gold on this scene ? The music just puts this moment on a whole other level.
0:28
"You. Me. Handcuffs. Must it always end this way?"
"Not those times. Not one line. Don't you dare!"
"Why do you handcuffs?"
"Spoilers."
Hahaha i love river
I watched doctor who starting from 11 and went back for 10 and seeing river makes me feel like i experienced their relationship from her pov
Moffat wrote some absolute bangers in the RTD era. I can't remember one bad episode he wrote under Russell. He was certainly the perfect choice to take over as head writer.
"Cough" Blink "cough" and the other episodes He wrote were average
JustSomeRandomGuy Online So you think the empty child/the Doctor dances is average? And the girl in the fireplace? And the Silence in the library/Forest of the dead? WOW.
Widdums7 yes I do Moffat is an average writer
JustSomeRandomGuy Online Well I disagree. He's capable of writing things other writers can only dream of creating.
Widdums7: Just ignore him. He well known for trying (and failing) to be edgy by giving controversial opinions on the show, left, right and centre. He's trying to look 'unique'.
“Time could be rewritten”
Tenth Doctor:
**TIMELORD VICTORIOUS INTENSIFIES**
Everyone hates Moffat but this is an amazing episode and I loved it
Every time I hear the name Moffat I cringe because I know he's getting ready to kill off someone I like and than I have a Kirk moment and yell "MOFFATTTT!!!!!"
Misto Talos true but he has made some good episode
Oh that he does, I love his writing and I love to hate him for it. The man knows how to show you a nice fine new carpet to stand upon and then once you're comfortable upon said carpet, he likes to give it a good tug. So he is my favorite writer that I love to hate.
Misto Talos sameeee
Hate is foolish,love is wise - 12th Doctor
"what i'm not allowed to have a career I suppose?" should have been the tip off for us to who she was. All of this was such a masterclass in planting the smallest seed years back and having it pay off so much so long later and transforming every episode before and after it in a new light.
Just rewatched last night. One of Moffat's finest...
I wish I could go back to this moment and relive those years again; her song ended but the story never ends.
You know there's the debate about when River learned the Doctor's name, but I'm wondering if Twelve told it to her during that 24-year night. You know from the screwdriver and the singing towers that he had these events on his mind, so he must be remembering that her saying his name was essential to her gaining his trust. He knew that it would make Ten shocked and confused since there's only one time he can tell anyone his name (he lived with that shock and confusion himself), but she had to know it, so he may have said it outside of that one circumstance to keep the timeline as it needed to be.
This hits SO HARD now that we've seen her whole story.
The first time you watch this, it is sad and you are sad and some things don't quite make sense...and then you go back and watch this scene again...after you already know everything that happens...and it's just that much more wonderful and heartbreaking and beautiful. This is just one of the many instances where you realize how amazing the writers of Doctor Who are. They planned SO FAR ahead, and they made it all make sense. ❤
I like how quite litteraly he showed up on her doorstep with a New haircut and a suit
This scene is so much sadder with The Husbands of River Song
Out of everything I love about this scene, the score is just magnificent (as always) well done Murray Gold