Ford Bronco vs. Land Rover Defender | 2-Door Off-Road SUV Showdown | Overlanding Comparison
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
- The Ford Bronco and Land Rover Defender are both two-door SUVs that are known for their strong off-road capabilities. In this video, Alistair Weaver and Carlos Lago from Edmunds take these two off-road vehicles out to demonstrate what they are capable of and what their differences are and discuss what they like and dislike about each off-road SUV. Back after 20 years, the new Ford Bronco is as popular as ever and offers extensive customization options and modern technology features. The Defender also returned after a lengthy absence, and while there's still a bit of a throwback feel with the design, the new Defender is a much more modern and comfortable vehicle than its forebear. It's the 2021 Ford Bronco vs. 2021 Land Rover Defender in this off-road SUV comparison test.
Read about the 2021 Ford Bronco vs. 2021 Land Rover Defender comparison: edmu.in/3lJdelG
2021 Ford Bronco pricing & review: edmu.in/3mQYDnW
2021 Land Rover Defender pricing & review: edmu.in/3va949P
Off-Road Buying Guide: edmu.in/3lGZh7T
Intro 00:00
Ford Bronco Overview 01:02
Land Rover Defender Overview 02:07
Interior 02:59
Off Road 08:02
Trail Turn Assist 11:40
Off-Road Driving 13:05
Hairpin Hillside 17:30
At The Track 25:27
On-Road Driving 26:21
Edmunds’ Take 27:08
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What do you want to see more of from our off-road tests? Should we run this again with the Jeep Wrangler? Let us know below, and read our Bronco review here: edmu.in/3mQYDnW
Maybe you should get a real Bronco and not do all the basic stuff.
I would like to see the comparo with the base model 90/Bronco/Wrangler. 4cylinders, no air suspension, etc.
Nice review keep up the good work
Yes
It’s kind of ironic, the best off-road Defenders are the cheaper ones whereas the best Wranglers and Broncos are the top spec ones.
To answer your question, yes, test against the Rubicon and the Sasquatch but with a base model Defender with only the real off-road options plus maybe better off-road tires and maybe the tow package.
The new Defender is in its infancy. I’m expecting Land Rover to incrementally add niche models, something Ford and Jeep wisely did from day one. Land Rover seems to have initially gone after the high end of the Mall Crawling market with big engines, 22 inch wheels and luxury interiors. The image marketing however is largely focused on rugged off-road capabilities, so it does need to make good on that promise.
After 2 x Freelanders, 1 x Discovery, 3 Full size RR’s, 2 x Evoques and the latest RR Sport SVR you could say that we’re JLR fans! But that’s because, in the ownership of all of them over many years, we had 1 x starter motor failure! Just waiting on a new P400 Defender 90 due in December…….
Very nice. In hybrid mode slip the gear knob across to sport setting and floor it. It'll make you smile.
After 2 Discovery, 2 Evoques and now Defender D300. I had a air suspension unit on the Discovery and it took
30 min to replace. Only problem with the Defender is people wanting to have a look at it and a seat in it and a
run in it. No one has has said anything negative.
they are great vehicles, I love mine. Nothing feels as special
You drove any of them past 50k miles?
@@zelenizub2036 my wife has a RR Sport, it's done 80,000 miles, no problems at all.
The practical reality for 99.9% of buyers is they drive 99.9% of the time on road or on off-road conditions that virtually any SUV can handle. The 0.1% of the challenging off-road driving is also generally purely voluntary and/or easily avoidable so not a true show stopper. The bottomline, you buy either of these vehicles for either it’s appearance, it’s comfort/luxury, it’s cost/price or how it makes you feel. Which to buy is really a “first world” problem both are outstanding so you can’t really lose either way.
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Dad take, but of the three (Wrangler, Defender, Bronco) the Defender is the only one with a respectable crash test rating. Also, the lease rates are basically the same for well equipped models. The defender in my eyes is much better at double duty family/fun.
Easily the best test I've seen in ages. Nothing childish (think Top Gear), yet focused on fun. Congrats all.
I owned a 2020 Defender first edition 11 months and just had a chance to drive an outer banks bronco with Sasquatch yesterday. I was really hoping that the Bronco would split the difference between the Defender and Rubicon in feel but that is not the case. The Bronco is far closer to the Rubicon than the Defender. The interior is passable…. But laughable in comparison to the Defender. Piloting the Bronco on road with the Sasquatch is akin to piloting a large truck. Cushy, not unpleasant, but not in the same league as the Defender. Looks wise,,,, in the eye of the beholder. If you live on a coast, Defender is the way to go. If you live in the center of the country, the bronco will turn more heads. Both exciting cars and I’m glad to live in a time when we have multiple option in this category. Based on the spectacular looking 2022 Tundra TRD PRO, I can’t wait to see what Toyota cranks out for the 2023 4Runner. As long as you are happy and enjoying a road trip, or the great outdoors, you can’t go wrong with any of these new toys….
Defender is laughably unreliable and overpriced. Tires and wheels are pleasant on highway are ridiculously low profile and delicate for off road. TFL blew 2 tires in 10 minutes on mild rocky trail while Bronco never slowed down. Bronco is made to live off road. It IS a truck! Defender has way too much mall crawler mentality.
@@fraserhenderson7839 i don’t recall any leaky roofs on the defender. Or any car designed and developed in the last quarter century.. but, yes, fords are great…. You can raise the suspension and add larger tires to the defender. Turning the bronco in to a better daily would take far more effort and money. We could argue all day long about the eventual fail of the defenders air suspension….. for 9/10ths of the actual driving done on pavement….even in inclement weather, we’d all be better off in a Subaru outback vs either defender or the bronco…. If you can only afford one car. The defender is the better choice. And if you can’t afford the defender, the bronco is a fine choice as well. The new Jeep Grand Cherokee trailhawk with the disconnect sway bar looks to be interesting as well. And, potentially the best all arounder…
@@marklynn6907 very well said.
@@fraserhenderson7839 Change the wheels and tires, done, no big deal. Also if you think the Defender is a mall crawler go watch The Smoking Tires videos on them, it's a monster Offroad.
@@fraserhenderson7839 bronco is too damn wide for tight Offroad trails. It’s laughable
You could significantly reduce the price and improve it’s off-road by buying the 2.0L 4 cylinder with 295 HP (selecting the 18” steel)wheels and adding the rear locking differential. Also save money by deleting the jump seat, which requires the “clear view mirror” option.
WTF...at 24:15 is the Bronco frame already rusting???
lmao I was scrolling to see if anyone else caught that ...
Good review guys. I considered both, but was concerned about Defender reliability. Ordered the Bronco because our other Ford vehicles have held up well.
Come on, defender is more reliable now a days
@@MissionCA101 I hope so, especially if you have one. Still waiting on my Bronco to arrive before I can pass judgment. 😎
I feel like a good %85 to %90 of people will die in the zombie apocalypse simply because they had to wait for their cars electric seats to move forward so they can get their family or friends in the back seat.
I feel like 95% will never run a trail harder than a 5 and these are all just fine for them…
this was a really awesome video great info and super helpful, thank you!
I really love the jump seat. My younger one (10) fights for it all the times and our dog loves the spot as well.
I like my fridge
I'll take a bronco, that being said, I don't hate the defender as much as most people. I saw a modified one a few days ago and it looked awesome imo.
Went to buy the 2-door Defender; when I learned the rear seats don’t fold flat, that was a deal killer. Major oversight by LR and don’t understand why they did not design it to lay flat for more useable rear space.
Wow that’s disappointing
Except they do, the cushion pops right out and then the seats fold flat.
@@Rambler_13 on the 110 and prob the 130 when it comes out fold flat but the 90 doesn't unless you do some modifications.
2020 Defender Owner here,
It’s a specified option unfortunately, so if you want your seats to fold entirely flat in either the 90 or 110 you need to order the seats that are designed to do so.
Like a previous commenter said there is a version of the seats where the bench portion folds/stands up and the seat backs fold down flat into that opening.
If you do not have that option, you can not fold entirely flat, Just mostly flat in the 110 and something like 70% or so flat in the 90.
The biggest problem for me with the 90 was left and right/blind spot visibility and the partition in the load floor that makes the load space essentially useless.
110 is a far more well rounded utilitarian vehicle between the two, even if the internet prefers the looks of 90 or shorter wheel base for extreme off roading.
I’ve never seen that as an option to specify. I’m in USA. Is it perhaps a non-USA option?
20" rims look cool.. I disagree, especially on a 4x4 of any type! Maybe on a Corvette or Ferrari they are "cool" but WHO would want them on a 4x4?
Agreed! LR needs to correct this wheel size issue!!!
You can get 18” wheels on the LR. Not sure why they chose the 20” wheels for this video.
@@wayneaiello only with the 4cylinder. We’ve been swapping rear calipers since day 1 on anew Defender on 6 cylinders so we can down size the ridiculously large rims on the V6 models. Nova oft puts 20’s on an off-roader unless you’re running 42” tires. Zero forethought on LR part where Jeep, Ford, and Toyota plan for the proper Offroad profession of small rims and 35-37+ tires
It's not about the rim size but tire size. Small rim big tire give you advantages in bumps. It art like an extra shuck, it gave you smooth ride. Disadvantages is when tire blow out on high speed causing roll over.
I have 19” rims in my LR4 and they look cool.
I also had 20” rims in my F150 with 34” tires and it looked cool.
But you can get the defender in diesel
Too and also V8 more energize choices
No diesel defender in the US
Wrong country
This is the comparison test I've been looking for and it' s a good one. Most people think that Ford use the Jeep to emulate but Ford used to own Land Rover and I think Ford actually used the Land Rover instead .
So that means it'll break on a day to day basis 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Sithlord224 ford is not so good
Very nice and fair review. Bottom line is both vehicles get you there and back again. While still being able to have civil road vehicle everyday.👍
Ford is to Land Rover as Cadillac is to Rolls Royce
When you put the Bronco in 4x4, the transfer case splits power evenly between front and back so Bronco does have a center locker. How do the people that review cars for a living not know that?
Then I’m equally as ignorant. Why does the G-wagen advertise their 3 locking diffs so much?
@@jamesbarronii2018 because it sounds good, basics of advertising
Both really cool... makes me glad I bought a 4Runner though.
Of course, these two wouldn’t have fit your needs.
4runners are cool too.
Ahh no
@@kain4645 actually.. yes
The Defender looks refined and overall just more appealing. I just wish someone, in these comparison videos, would show these vehicles fully max loaded with gear and weight. Also, trailer towing.
A Defender towing? lmfao
2x the price and has the amazing feature of a mandatory trip to the dealer every month lol. You couldn't force me to buy a Land Rover
Landrovers are notoriously junk
@@Steve-yr5vi I mean the 8000lbs towing capacity of the defender is a hell of a lot better than the broncos towing
@@Steve-yr5vi towing is what the Defender was supposed to do, if you come to the UK you'll see pickup trucks and defenders towing cattle trailers and all sorts.
I love both of these vehicles. I have a Bronco on order and my garage has a LR4 and a RRS in it. Would love to update with a Defender. Thanks for the fun review.
What option did you check to get a 2-door outer banks to $51k without the Sasquatch package.
Bigger engine, lux package, leather seats, running boards, rear locking diff, roof rack... all the stuff you can see on the vehicle in this video. Throw destination charge in there, at you're at $51k.
I’d take the Bronco
I would choose the defender 110 carpathian edition with the explorer pack on it and the V8 the bronco is nice but the defender stands out Broncos will be everywhere just like the wranglers not the defender.
At least the Bronco won't leave you stranded out in the desert.
You’ll see all the Defenders in the repair bays at the dealership.
Hey to each own if you wanna ride out to a bronco kudos to you go get a bronco. And I’ll get what I’ll get agree to disagree
The practical advantage of Broncos and Wranglers everywhere, if something does break, you'll easily be able to find a replacement.
I’ll take the bronco but both are nice vehicles. Over all off-road vehicles the two door Wrangler Rubicon is King of the hill!
Get a Badlands with Sasquatch package, so it has dif lockers, and bigger tires
If you were to delete the jump seat, clear sight rear view mirror, select the 4 cylinder and 18” wheels, then add the rear locking differential. That reduces the prices by close to $8K and gives you a better off road vehicle.
Honestly at this point either wait a year plus for a Bronco or pay the markup which puts you in the price bracket of the Defender.
I’d choose the bronco
To me it boils down to equipment emphasis:
Wrangler: 50/50 on/off-road
Bronco: 60/40 on/off-road (50/50 with Sasquatch)
Defender: 80/20 on/off-road
For reference a 100/0 rating would be a rock buggy with no interior and a 0/100 would be a lowered S class or something
If you use the defender like a Wrangler, more power to you. But I doubt most owners will. All three are very impressive for their respective buyers
Your reference figures are inverted. The benz should be 100/0 and the rock buggy should be 0/100.
So you don’t rate all Broncos equally, but a Wrangler Sport and a Rubicon both get a 60/40? I mean, yeah, both are crap on road, but they’re not exactly equal off-road. Basically the Wrangler Sport is useless everywhere.
I'd say the Defender's on to off-road split is more like 65:35 - 70:30.
@@nicholassmith7048 😂
Wrangler is 40/60 - 45/55 (depending on trim)
“Go easy on the xenophobia” is reason enough to leave a comment. Well played.
What is defender tire size?
Now this is a typical “judging the book by its cover” review. When you claim the defender is surprisingly capable compared to its “spec” - you really haven’t compared the specs! Do the basic off road specs and the Defender will surprise you once again: Ground clearance, angles, wading depth, tow capacity, load capacity, roof load, etc. there is perfectly good reason, why the Defender is heavier; it’s not ONLY your every weekend fun ATV.. 😉
I’ve wasted so much of my time on these stupid reviews refuting inaccurate or completely biased views. It’s ultimately just not worth the effort, the Defender makes a great villain for a lot of people because it’s seen as soft and expensive like the one completely biased reviewer here rightfully points out about himself. Nevermind that the car was at least as capable if not more so than the bronco and much better in every other way (on-road, towing, payload). I think these reviewers know the Defender makes a great villain to the knuckle draggers and it adds up to a lot of hits. Anyways I used my wallet and voted and have been completely impressed with mine.
@@Douganchesner There is definitely a lot of biased reviews against the Defender - and they drive a lot of hits and views. Note how elegantly the Bronco’s turn assist was framed in this “review”. The Defender - supposedly - went a bit too wide in the turn - allowing the Bronco to shine.
Congrats on your car. I don’t own a Defender myself - but I’am getting one as soon as my wallet allows.
@@scandinavia6271 The Sasquatch Bronco is more capable than the Defender at the end of day, if you had to pick which vehicle would make it through a harsh trail you'd be pretty dumb not to pick the Bronco. And the Defender has already been shown to be incredibly unreliable and undependable in long term use. Waste your own money but please don't misinform anyone else. No one wants finicky and expensive to repair Land Rover air suspension in a "off-road" vehicle. The Brits should stick to making mall queens and sports cars.
4 auto mode is not limited to 2.7. Can be had on 2.3 and with manual.
Think the defenders articulation needs some fine tuning as it looked like it had more to give in some areas.
FYI- Rear sway bar disconnect and it’s phenomenal…
I enjoyed watching this video, in these times some serious consideration is to be given to costs and that includes reliability and maintenance.considering that resale value are not that different The Bronco is the winner.🏆
It's the worst time to buy a car unless necessary, any car
That 90...one of the best looking 2 doors on the market 👍🏻
Like I said in an earlier video. Land Rover has managed to build a larger vehicle than my LR4 with less room inside.
I gotta admit those LR4s are timeless beauties
"can give the Bronco more articulation..." Do you have to ask for it? Don't you mean "does give the Bronco more articulation...". Because it absolutely does.
You have to "ask" for the option, you have to pay for the option, you have to "ask" the system to work by lifting your hand and pressing the button. It only gives more articulation if you press the button, therefore "can give" seems the most appropriate. You need to have it AND use it to get more articulation.
Based on the Defender price, you should have compared against the Badlands Trim - that would kill the the Defender in terms of capability
We’ve personally wheeled Badlands vs Defender - very comparable units on and off road. We have a Badlands 4 door on order and wheel Defender 110 regularly along with TJ’s, JK’s, and JL’s
Wish your camera men were further out, showing both cars going up. That's what we are here to see.
I love them both! Well, if u want one. Its actually depends where u live. But for me, i will choose defender 90. Coz luxury and off-road 👍 in my own opinion 🤔
The defender looks like a Scion XB ... I can't imagine anyone actually taking that thing off road
Watch Matt Farah aka The Smoking Tires video on it, it is a beast Offroad, demolishes anything put in its way.
In the UK we get the defender hard top designed for work as land rovers are the sort of cars that are used for work over here and those do look more utilitarian and rugged. These ones are more for the urban jungle but you can definitely take them off road if you want to.
Ironically most consumers of the broncos won't see trails. I'd bargain the defender will be used more rugged than most broncos. Jeeps current demograph proves that
If they put a wheel tire combination that won’t actually pop when a bit of sidewall is touched I might try
Yes had the privilege in 1979 to ride in the back of a Land Rover 18 hours through the jungle of Malaysia my bones can still remember how uncomfortable it was.
Funny thing is that new rovers ride similar to Rolls Royce’s.
That’s is so impressive for defender when you consider it’s not body on frame construction
Great vid 🇬🇧as a Brit defender for me but the Ford looks better
You reviewers and that hard plastic. Which one is easier to clean? Which one is really more reliable/stable over time?
All you need is baby wipes and the Defender cleans right up.
@@peopleschamp7258 haha I use baby wipes all the time on mine. Super easy to clean
Initially I hated the new Defender, also initially I loved the new Bronco but as I saw them more I think I like the Wrangler a little more. That being said after seeing the new Defender more and more I love it, that would be the one to get in my opinion and I think it actually looks pretty "alpha" to me, more than the others and that's before kitting it out. A guy down the road from me has a blacked out, black 4 door Defender and that thing looks mean.
Totally agree. Had the same thought
Bronco. Needs. One more V-6 engine or V-8.
Update. There's now a Bronco Raptor with the updated V6. They refuse to shove a V8 in the Bronco unfortunately. Because we all know why. Emissions :(
I mean if you think about it Ford marketing team did a hell of a job they made a bronco for first time off raiders and guys who go camping twice all summer lol they’re smart they’re hitting that overlanding trend a lot of new drivers
I feel like Carlos doesn't like sharing the spotlight and only wanted to hear his point of view subconsciously.
When you measured the height off the ground between the Bronco and the Defender, you did the Bronco empty while you left the driver in the Defender. If you watch the video you clearly see the Bronco lift off more when the driver left the vehicle, so most likely if the Defender was also empty that rear wheel should also be up ever further than it is...
They were already biased
@@MissionCA101 Yah, I've noticed this about Edmund in many of their reviews and articles...
How can you talk about capabilities of a vehicle off or on road without towing capabilities or payload? The bronco tows 3.500 lbs optimally equipped for towing, and the defender tows 8.201 lbs standard. The bronco has a payload of 1.370 lbs and the defender 1.984. The bronco can carry 110 lbs on the roof while the defender can carry 370 lbs. These two cars are not really competing against each other at all. The defender is an all-round family car/workhorse/overlander beast while the bronco is an oversized atv. Land Rover for me any day!
I would definitely prefer a bronco over the defender for the amount of money you spent on that defender you could’ve gotten a really awesome bronco with a lot of aftermarket stuff also
Wouldn’t it make more sense to review the four door bronco or the bronco sport to the Land Rover? Also noted the Bronco does send power to the rear or the front tires depending on the mode. The engine is set up to have high torque at very low rpm’s compared to the land rovers throttle mapping of that of a street car for higher acceleration/top speed.
I'll take the Bronco and I'm an ex-pat from Coventry.
And gay.????
Just wish the Bronco had decent tow rating.
When I went to the dealership to inquire to either get a slightly used one or a new 2022 one. I was told that in order to tow (don't remember the weight) I would need to go up on the engine and some other option.
I went with a build because the a used Bronco the way I wanted was only $2900 dollars less than the new build.
Defender tows up to 8200 lbs…
I’m wondering what the take rate is on the 2 door versions of the Defender. I’m traveling today and saw 3 two door Defenders and 0 4 door Defenders. Honestly I was surprised.
It's pretty high I think. The four door Defender is simply massive, whereas the 2 door defender is basically the perfect size for a couple with a dog or child.
I've seen half a dozen 100s and no 90s in my neck of the woods (so cal).
I'm real curious to see the 300
Liked!
If you had the Sasquatch would be easier you have 11.6 inches of clearance. The standard has 8.3 Inches
Also - wish they were available in diesel for better economy and off road traction
The Defender is offered with a diesel, but they don't offer it in North America...
You got the outer banks to go off roading?
You choose the road focused Bronco that’s not a badlands, or wild track to compare to the defender and then immediately take it off-road!! In what way we’re the other broncos “not needed for what you are doing”??
The defender is a great truck, everyone knows that, so why give an immediate disadvantage to the Bronco by choosing this one package that few people will buy??
If you aren’t buying the Bronco to use off-road then why would someone ever spend their money on a Bronco when vehicles much better suited for the streets would be the obvious choice?
18:18 Unequal power with locker. Imagine you have the front in air and only the rear wheels powering the car. You have almost 100% rear minus some friction and inertia
Next, do the Bronco vs. the Honda CR-V and the Toyota Sienna … only fair since you put the Bronco up against the Defender here. And after that, do a video about how oranges are more orange than apples.
idk about this one. just dont like how unreliable the brit is. everything from that company loses value and falls apart to easily
The defender is as reliable as England was in ww2
And it's not even an British car anymore.
Bruh,The New Land Rover Defender isn’t a real Land Rover Defender it’s more of a new Land Rover Discovery!If you want to see a true new Land Rover Defender then for goodness sake see the Ineos Grenadier!
If you're not willing to deal with the maintenance and service req that JLR recommends then best of luck to you. Other than that, it's broadly fine from my experience but I dunno how far you'd get if you don't stick to Ford's maintenance and service req for the Bronco, I'd have to ask my brother about that but I doubt it'd be much diff.
@@TradLibChinaman I mean it is, in terms of off-road capability but in terms of workhorse utility, I am not so sure.
In my opinion it seems to have been built more for mass market rather than for commercial purposes, which I think is a shame but if you don't care about work horse utility, it's fine.
The center clutch pack is a type of differential, so yes the Bronco does have a locking center diff.
At about 23 minutes it shows the underbody of the Ford. Was that rust? I'm curious to know if it suffers the same as the f-150.
The f-150 body doesn't rust due to it being made of aluminum, when talking about the underbody tho i haven't many cases claiming that as an issue or common issue of that specific truck, as far as i can tell there is no rust in this video showing, if anything it's not even a point to tell if there is since it's all dirty with dust and mud
My 2016 F-150 is rust free, not sure what is the rust problem you speak of
a lot of wrong info about Bronco. You don't really need V6 to have 4a.
Yeah, these dudes have no clue
Those 35 tires are not 34.4. ACTUAL SIZE IS 33 1/4. Measurement taken on dealer lot w brand new 315's.
Why is the Sasquash package "overkill " for this comparison? It's an "on road test" that's conducted off road with articulation tests.
Exactly
And it still would have cost less than the LR
How many times did you have to fix the Defender? I really want one but their reliability... Yikes
Had mine almost a year. Zero times. And yes, I use it off-road, and tow with it, frequently.
I don't 1 year doesn't inspire confidence when every review puts Land Rover dead last on reliability.... But I could almost say the same for my BMW X5, everybody says that they are unreliable however I have yet to have a problem with it after 8 years of ownership. But BMW is rated higher than Land Rover and reliability much much higher
@@adamnelson4814 I’ve owned a lot of BMWs. Before this Defender my M5 Grenaded itself - sudden big end failure even though it was fully serviced. New engine was over 40k which BMW had to provide under warranty. That car had under 30k miles on it. Previous M3 had numerous problems with failed VANOS, coils, air flow sensors. X5 was fine, Z4M lost 3rd gear. I’ve also had problems with Porsche and my current Lotus Exige. So yeah any brand can have problems. I’m not a fanboy though - I don’t care what other people drive really.
@@Stabby666 I don't think I would call myself a fanboy I just stick with whatever works for me and I've had some cars that were supposed to be very reliable and were not so like a Toyota I had and this is my first European German car and I've had nothing but good luck. But my experience at working in a Land Rover dealership I just wish the Discovery and the Defender were more reliable
@@adamnelson4814 I just take it on a car by car basis. Like I said my previous disco 4 had around 120k miles with no significant problems, but I actually get my cars service more often than the dealer schedules. I’ll probably still buy BMWs in the future too even though a couple of them had issues. My next car will be a Tesla though.
Personally I think the bronco is more comparable to the defender than the bronco is to a wrangler
Pause at 18:51 defender looks like the back half was just cut off and missing the whole back end.
It's already been proven on TF L that the Land Rover Discovery cannot hang with the Bronco period
This is a defender not a discovery unless you think this is more of a discovery then never mind.
@@beaviccoon470 Who in the fu** cares smart a**! It's the same maker of another shi** product.
@@twany442 But totally different cars from the same maker, so @Beaviccoon's point still stands.
and chill man no need to be angry daaaaaamn
@@patricembabazi1219
I'm not mad, but really who cares. A shi**y made car is a shi**y no matter how many different types they make. Land Rover, Range Rover, and Discovery.
My best friend who works in estate has owned them all and still owns the Range Rover while she takes it to the shop every 3 months for $2,000 to $4,000 repair. Her husband and I look at her like she's crazy but it's her money to do what she wants to do with it. No they are all crap. TFL bought a brand new one this year and it's been to the shop more than four times already.
I'm saying this because I know first hand with working for people who have owned them. $5,000 for a headlight. $8,000 for a sideview mirror. Air Suspension getting stuck, that was another $6,000 and we can go on and on. They are surely status symbol vehicles and for that purpose only and people will still buy them knowing that they have one of the worst reliability ratings.
@@twany442 I hear you Antoine, nothing like Fix Or Repair Daily. Plastic, Plastic, Plastic.
OK - we know about the history of poor reliability for LR products. But what are the real reliability records for the Defender?
As someone who has always criticized landrover and their quality and had owned a discovery 2, I am pleasantly surprised with real world defenders of this new model. I've been in multiple and have enjoyed two cross country trips totaling over 8,000 miles each with no problems with the defender. Besides a leaky tire in the rockies. I think LR gets bias reviews and opinions. It was completely deserved in the older generation of LR. Not long ago they had some bad issues. But these new models I encourage you to ask REAL owners not on the internet about their ownership experience and you'll see they aren't the nightmares people pretend they are.
Why would you not compare a fully loaded Badlands to the base Defender so that the prices are more comparable? There is over a $14,000 difference between these two vehicles.
Or even a loaded badlands or wildtrak to the loaded defender.
Yep. Got a bronco.
G Wiz I i ok not have the 4 cyl turbo and I have the 4Auto drive mode
I really wish they offered the Jeep/bronco without a removable top. That wind noise gets annoying fast.
Yeah but that's the purpose of those vehicles. The Defender is quieter, but it's more of a luxury vehicle and it costs almost twice as these two. I still wouldn't recommend the Defender...
Defender is the one i want💯💯💪
I advise you to lease it, you'll thank me.
would like to see a Crash test face off agains"t both cars
These two shouldn’t even be compared. The Defender is at minimum a $70k vehicle. I went to go look at them last week hoping to get in one and keep the price in the mid 50’s. Not possible. It would be completely stripped of any options for mid 50s. I’m not even sure that a mid 50s Defender exists on a lot. It might have to be ordered.
I don't understand people who say this "I want it cheap, but I also want all the options". Yeah no shit you'll be paying a lot more if you option it out. If you strip it of all the options you'll be way under 70k, and it'll still drive on-road better than the Bronco and be great off-road.
Question: are the residents of Birmingham, Alabama also called Brummies?
No
Independent suspesion all around, unibody LR vs a rear solid axle and body on frame Bronco? I know what i want
You guys need to improve with your lighting in your videos.
I think this is the most appropriate comparison. Wranglers are nothing like the bronco. I’ve been in the bronco being driven by the Baja 1000 race driver Shelby Hall, and she was lovely by the way, but the wrangler is great but I don’t think it’s a Wrangler competitor. Sure people will cross shop them because well just because. But I think this is more of a mini Land Rover defender. I really like it. I’m specifically trying to lower my expenses as I get ready for retirement so high next week my newest car will be 2010 as I’m getting rid of the 2019 Honda CRV with expensive insurance. But Alastair I really think you are the absolute 100% best car person in the world; save for Jay Leno. Just so you can say that you have read someone calling you the absolute best. Here it is. You’re the absolute best. Just like Shirley Crabtree.
I like the Defender, I just hate that little Prius shifter 😒
Bronco is bad ass tho.
Who watched this just to see which car broke down first? I am sooooo-oooo disappointed.
Giving the reliability of Defenders and the cost for parts no chance I would get one. A base Bronco is 30k and you can customize it yourself. A base defender is over 50k and you can’t find parts for it.
"can't find parts for it"? Who told you that?
My wife for a dealership and getting parts is very difficult.
@@brentvance3958 find a better dealership. Had mine just over a year with zero problems.
Land Rover has far more towing and payload capacity.
Also complete junk and cost of maintenance is rediculous
if the money is not a problem is the defender everytime
Don’t know about Ford, but LR definitely has problems building cars right now. Ordered a Def V8 in april, was scheduled to arrive early september, got delayed to october, and now has been delayed to late-late november. I just hope it’ll be here till the end of the year.
If reliability wasn't an issue, the Defender would be my option 90% of the time. Ford, their leadership racketering/overcharging (some dealers are overcharging up to $20k) and delayed deliveries made the Bronco much less appealing than the original proposition. Too bad Toyota doesn't make a modern-day Land Cruiser-FJ Cruiser.
I get the skepticism, I was a "LR hater" for a long time. Rightfully so. I owned a discovery 2 and had experiences with newer year ones all negative. That being said, I have taken a new generation defender across the country multiple times have put 50k miles on it in 2 years and have offroaded some hard trails in the rockies and Daily driven it and never once had a maintenance issue . If it had been up to me I'd have never got this car; that being said I'm so glad I did. The interior, ride quality, day to day, road manners and road noise all make it so much more worth it to me than the bronco. That being said I love the bronco too but with dealer markups and Ford and everything else. I'll take the defender all day. It has proven to me that it's a different product than previous LRs of recent years. I will say I did have a tire puncture twice in all my miles and I ended up upgrading to more aggressive more sidewall tires... much easier than Making a bronco as good of a DD than the defender
Also I wish that toyota would bring that landcruiser 70 to the US. I'd buy that in an instant. I get it
bronco the king
Bronco the killer
the land rover does it, the ford just does it easily
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