Land Rover Defender vs. Ford Bronco
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- Опубліковано 10 лис 2023
- After pushing almost 20k miles in the 2021 Land Rover Defender and now hitting that same mark of ownership in two different Ford Bronco a wildtrak and a big bend. We feel we have some pretty good opinions to share about these amazing off-road vehicles. in the end, who is the 4x4 king? who is the pavement princess? what one would you own?
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Great review. As a Defender owner, I can't dismiss the off-road capability of the Bronco right out of the box with the 35s, but the Defender just hits different - it's the perfect mix of business and party. I owned a 2020 110 P400 for three years with zero major issues and I'm taking delivery on my 2024 110 P400 in just a few days from JLR Richfield, MN! Love that you guys are local. If you ever want another Defender for a comparison, hit me up!
Hello my new Defender is scheduled to arrive in May. I'm currently driving a 2020 Lexus GX 460. My question is have you experienced any issues yet. Thanks in advance.
Right conclusion, still very happy after 2.5 years with my 90 (on air/e-diff)
TLDR: No matter how much trim you add to a Bronco it's still a Ford Bronco. And no matter how much trim you omit from Defender, its still a Land Rover Defender.
True. Bronco still be Bronco. Yet, no matter how much you ADD to new Defender it’ll never be real Defender and never be Range Rover.
I’ll take my Badlands Bronco 2-door everytime. Maybe go with a defender if you really care about people thinking that you’re rich.
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Just confirming what others have said. I originally had a 2 door bad lands on order, this going back to the initial arrivals. My 2 door came in but had to be kept at the dealer due to a faulty airbag sensor. I was, though, able to take it out for an extended test drive. I did this by myself for almost 1 hour. It looked cool, but wow, it sure felt cheap. After that drive, I stopped at a Land Rover dealership and checked out the 90. What a difference. Just leaps and bounds better build quality, materials, feel, looks. I was sold. I never picked up the Bronco and I immediately ordered a defender 90. Took like 8 months to get... but it was so worth it.
As I stated in another review of yours recently, I test drove the Bronco and the Defender in the past few weeks. I've had several LR products and I can say from experience, nothing makes you feel love and hate for a car like LR. You just keep coming back, love wins. The Bronco felt detached. You don't drive it thinking it's caressing you, you drive it thinking ok, this is cool, next. The feeling is short lived and I know that after about 6 months in a Bronco I would feel like the cool factor is worn off. When I had my LR RR Evoque I was excited to drive it every single time I got in it. Never ever bored of driving it, even though it was NOT reliable. However, that was 8 years ago. Everyone I ask in my area that has a Defender loves it and no-one complained about reliability. Long and short , I'm likely to buy a Defender in the next couple of weeks. Nothing else massages your 5 maybe 6 senses like a LR or RR.
You are not wrong. Even if the JLR product abuses you, you keep coming back. I am kind of excited for the Lexus Gx550, though.
@@PerformanceOnWheels Do you mean the new Land Cruiser Lexus version?. I think it's a slam dunk and a better overall value than either the LR or Bronco. However, it doesn't have that certain pheromone that Land Rover products do. On top of it all I have to justify to my loving wife that the LR is a good value even with the high test fuel!. Just love the Defender.
PS. My brother just spent $240 on an oil change for his Discovery Sport. YUP, very pricey maintenance.
Yeah. I think they released the gx550 first. I dig the redesign on both of them for sure. Maybe there is something to owning a car that is not 100 percent reliable. 🤔 living dangerous.......
Never owned Land Rover and only had Ford for few months 25 years ago. Yet after driving dozen of each, I picked Bronco. Not sure how did you figure Bronco is cooler than Defender, but I simply didn’t like driving Defender.
23 Badlands for the Win 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
Ford Bronco is a want to be Land Rover Defender with one major difference the Ford Bronco falls short in overall build quality with many problems like hard top leaks, and wind noise. Sure the Land Rover Defender is not a perfect vehicle but has improved so much and is not in the same class as the Bronco it is in the same class as the MB G Wagon. Dollar for dollar my money goes to the Land Rover Defender.
Wind noise yes.... but a challenging comparison, as the roof comes off.
Yeah. Lets go 70 mph is plowed field in both vehicles. Bet what happens.
Four tow trucks will be summoned.
Ford Bronco could care less to be Land Rover Defender - it was designed to compete with Jeep Wrangler.
Not just Land Rover Defender is not a perfect vehicle, it is a want to be MB G-wagon and want to be real old school Defender. Yet, it is neither of them.
I’ve owned 3 different Land rovers and love them, but ultimately the insanely expensive maintenance and difficulty even dealing with the dealerships soured me on the brand. Also, the most random things will break and cost you a fortune to replace. Sold our Disco 5 after 2 years and bought a Bronco.
Bronco for the Win🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉
As a Land Rover fan for decades, I am disappointed with what Land Rover have done to the Defender. All they have done is build another family car and not a utility vehicle with anything remotely like the spirit of the outgoing Defender. The Bronco on the other hand, YES! I like the Bronco and would buy one over the new Defender every day. Sadly, it will never be sold in the UK because Ford refuse to make a Right hand drive version.
Great video guys.
Very fair feedback & review of both vehicles.
As u say, they are both SUV with off road capability etc, but, they are very different vehicles.
If u can afford the price difference, the Defender with P400 engine is much better v the P300.
P400 is six cylinder with excellent power.
A 90 model with this motor, is actually a pretty fast car.
P400 manages the weight of Defender with no problem.
P300 is a great engine, but it struggles with weight of Defender.
P300 uses more fuel than the 6 cylinder P400..
If your Defender 90, had P400 motor, u would have enjoyed it a lot more..
More power is almost always the answer! Appreciate your feedback you always have great insight!
Well done on the objectivity but for many LR owners (me included), it’s not about the look, the cost or even the performance on or off-road - it’s all about the colour of the oval. I wouldn’t drive anything else. Also safety. Watching the crash test videos - the Bronco collapses like a tin can in a crash. The Defender is fairly indestructible.
How is the review objective if two dramatically different vehicles being compared?
Of course Bronco inferior to Defender in safety performance being body on frame open top vehicle with removable doors.
That said, while safer than Bronco, Defender is hardly indestructible.
I was test driving D110 and salesman told me he used to have the same vehicle but it was totalled in accident with BMW 5-series.
@@zrvpvo8789 being indestructible and crash testing and being totalled in an accident are totally different things. You want your car to be totalled at the cost of soaking the impact energy before crashing the cabin. you don't want to build totally rigid structure that will transfer all energy to seatbelts and kill you with internal bleeding
@@michalklucz6907 True, you want your car to absorb the impact - not your body. Defender simply has thicker doors and it is a unibody, which may give you certain advantages during accident, depending on situation of course.
That said, when high centre of gravity vehicle safety being considered, your first concern is not to get into situation when your vehicle needs to absorb the impact. Having driven at least a dozen of 2 and 4 door Defenders, they do not feel remotely as stable(safe) at high speeds as Bronco.
By the way, Defender has by FAR more rigid structure than Bronco.
@@zrvpvo8789 sadly can't confirm or deny as I am living in the country where you can't get Bronco, and the speed limit is 70mph :) but had no issue other than noise in D110
@@michalklucz6907 If you have no issue with D110, does it mean I have to like the way it drives even at 50mph? It doesn’t!
Other than noise (due to the soft top) I don’t have issue with Bronco either.
Haven’t had any major issues with my Defender X D300. Still need to test it properly off-road though, but planning that at the end of the month.
Hope u enjoy your Defender
D300 is a brilliant motor
Only petrol motors available in USA..
I really appreciate this video! I am a Bronco fan mainly because I can make the Bronco reflect my personality better. Both are very capable vehicles, but I do think the Bronco nailed it for the 99% of the off-roading community vs the 1% who want to go in style and luxury. Not to mention the repair bill would definitely be cheaper
Thanks for the comment! We love hearing the different opinions!
This is honestly a weird comparison. I think it was good and through, but still weird. If called upon, the Bronco Wildtrack you are standing next to could literally do the Rubicon Trail. The Landrover, not so much. Aftermarket support and modification ability. For 2000 bucks you can add new adjustable coil Overs on the Bronco and get 3" of suspension lift, slap on some 37s and go have some real fun and look good doing it. Lifting a Landrover is almost impossible and definently not a weekend warrior project. As far as breaking tie rods, the stuff you got to be doing to do that is crazy. I have watched guys rock crawling the Rubicon trail and not break a tie rod, but some did, but dang, the crap they were in, something had to give. Nice review, but they are not really that comparable beyond the fact that they are both SUVs that are 4 wheel drive and come in both 2 and 4 door configuration. But I watched it, so there is that.
Glad you watched!! Greatly appreciate sharing your opinion as well. I take based on your comment you are a Bronco fan! Me to!! Also a Defender fan. You can get a coil defender (there are lifts for those) or a Defender with air suspension.....push a button and get a lift. As far as off road capability, these two rigs are extremely close in capability.
@PerformanceOnWheels actually I am a fan of both also, I just think they are just to different to compare, one being unapologetically rugged (and can be available in very basic and less expensive trims) and one more refined. Both great in their own worlds, but can occasionally mingle with the same crowd. I do believe Landrover made an error in making it to difficult to modify the suspension to give it a chance at the really hard stuff.
My LR parts shop seems to charge me shipping on each part. Definitely need to order your own parts if you don’t need the dealer to install.
Hoss 3.0?
Yes. Hoss 3.0 Bronco wildtrack suspension, previously optioned currently standard.
HELP!. :). Okay, a not so local dealer has a P300 110 S exact color I love -Godwanna Stone with black wheels, and all other options including the all Tan interior. HOWEVER, it has 11,000 miles. That said, it's 62K out the door vs. over 70 new. Would you hesitate to buy this with 11k miles being that it is a LR product not a Toyota etc. ?. He checked the service history on the car and it has no history issues of any kind. What would you do?.
What year is it? (How much warranty remaining?) Dealer able to sell it as a certified pre-owned? If so, I would not hesitate at all.
@@PerformanceOnWheels Certified pre owned. 2023. 11,000 on car , bumper to bumper goes to 50,000
Enjoy it!
I Take the 2023 Land Rover Defender 110.
Love this - honest review 👏
Seriously? You like the look of the Defender better? That’s funny to me. Almost as funny as you calling the Defender a rock crawler. C’mon guys, it’s a pavement princess. They put low profile tires on them from the factory for goodness sakes. Also funny that you called the Bronco a desert runner (which your Wildtrak is), but then tried to say the Everglades was the rock crawler. Nope! That would be the Badlands., which has a disconnectable sway bar.
Looks is a personal preference and the defender can come with 18" rims and 70 series tires. The defender is very capable off-road.
@@paulelledge8977 Defender is capable off-road but inferior to Bronco even with 18”. Not to mention that it’s way more expensive than Bronco. And even when you add extra off-road features to Defender, it will still not have front locker and stabilizer disconnect.
@@zrvpvo8789 It's more capable than a cheap bronco and less capable than an expensive bronco. My Defender was $61k, lots of Broncos cost that or way more after dealer mark-ups. And the defender is better than the bronco in every other way. Ride quality, noise, comfort, space... All better. I like the bronco a lot, don't get me wrong. They are just different. The Defender will hang with all but the most loaded broncos on most off-road situations. In fact the defender would probably better the bronco in situations like desert running or overlanding. It definitely has a better water fording ability. But rock crawling a bronco Sasquatch on 35"s would be better.
@@paulelledge8977 Before getting Bronco, I test drove literally dozens of both in 2 and 4 door version. You statement that Defender is better in every way makes me laugh! It’s not larger inside, drives like crap at high speed (strange, given unibody construction, independent suspension and tons of electronics). Basic Defender looks by far more cheap inside than low level Broncos.
Of course Defender is quieter - does not have convertible top! And it cannot be modified much. So pretty much it’s nothing more than hyped up SUV.
That said, decently equipped D110 is about $77K. My 4 Dr. Badlands (no Sasquatch) was $61650 loaded! It will laugh on your Defender off-road.
If you haven’t got the memo - people did not pay markup on ordered Broncos. Land Rover dealers wanted $7500 to $10000 just to order average Defender (not talking about V8 etc..). Get reality check.
@@zrvpvo8789 oh so you are just bullshitting. Got it. My mistake taking you seriously. Have a good day.
It makes me laugh seeing some people called your review - honest.
Your statement that D90 as big as 4dr. Bronco is total nonsense! Not just it is way smaller, it’s hardly any bigger than 2dr. Bronco.
I wanted to replace 2018 JL Rubicon since I was tired of poor freeway handling of solid axle, with either Defender or Bronco. It took me over a year just to pick between them. After driving at least a dozen of each (both 2 and 4 dr), I can easily say that Defender is nothing more than status symbol. You don’t have to be 4x4 except to realize that Defender lost it’s rugged heritage and never became Range Rover in terms of luxury.
True, Bronco interior is not as quality built as Defender. But Defender with nicer interior is dramatically more expensive. Basic Defender interior interior look cheap at best! While I don’t like Bronco tachometer, I don’t find Defender’s climate control, steering wheel etc.. superior. As you said: it’s matter of opinion. Granted, Defender dashboard storage space is way better than Bronco’s. Option seat ventilation is another advantage.
What really discouraged me from Defender - feeling instability at freeway speed, which is odd considering independent suspension on all cornered, unibody and all electronics. Bronco with larger tires and solid rear axle feels BY FAR more stable on the road! And it’s hardly classified that Defender is inferior to Bronco off-road with all that beefy suspension components. Your options of modifying Defender are very limited in comparison to Bronco.
I also not sure how did you figure that Wrangler showed up in 2018 is on the way out?
So as I said, new Defender is nothing more than status symbol for people who can’t afford G-wagon… Friend of mine has brand new D-90 (over $90K) He didn’t know he has air suspension and never heard of locking differential. Not like he can go off-road with his 22’s.
Thanks for sharing and watching. Glad you settled on something you are happy with. Length in inches 173, 180,189,197 that is 2dr B, D90,4dr B, d110. I think you answered the question about the Wrangler in your response. Some of the population is tired living with two solid axles. I think everything else is opinion and that is completely fine.
@@PerformanceOnWheels You contradicted yourself with the specs. How can 173 be much shorter than 180, yet 180 be about the same as 189? I was not arguing length - just said that you don’t feel Defender being larger while driving it. It’s interior is not bigger than Bronco’s. The difference in the engine compartment. Neither it’s wider internally - Defender doors much thicker than Bronco doors. Definitely an advantage over Bronco from safety perspective.
Just because I chose to replace Wrangler with Bronco hardly means Jeeps loosing popularity. True, some of us tired from live front axle. But overwhelming majority buy vehicle because they like it, no matter it’s Bronco, Jeep, Land Rover or whatever. As I said, my colleague drives 2023 D90 and he doesn’t have slight clue about it’s design features. He simply doesn’t see himself in Ford or Jeep after driving Bentley convertible… My wife’s girlfriend drives G-wagon. You seriously believe she knows anything about front suspension, low range etc..? I see twice more Wranglers around here than Broncos and Defenders combined!
@zrvpvo8789 cool. You win.
@@PerformanceOnWheels Could care less winning UA-cam argument. Just merely pointing out that Defender lost it’s famous utilitarian reputation. In my opinion Range Rover is by far better choice as luxury SUV.
Triggered
Well......spit it out. What's your choice?
Broncos are cheap trash. I owned a new 2dr Badlands for exactly 15 hours. Took it back to dealer the next morning. Junk.
Ouch!
Funny you guys are comparing an extremely rare engine failure that didn't happen to you to a real coolant failure that happens to many defenders and did happen to you. It's fine you guys are land Rover guys and that's cool. One truth of the land Rover defenders....if you own it long enough....you'll have to defend her performance bc they are notoriously unreliable. Did you guys see the fast lane defenders they purchased? That's the land Rover experience! Lol
I have a Dedender and it has 10k on it. No problem at all. Only the infotainment screen black out here and there.
It feels wrong to take a Land Rover off road
When you can afford one you don’t care.