A very big thank you! I use a 2009 MacPro 5.1 for my daily work as a small freelancer and was losing a lot of time since the move from Big Sure to Monterey (not to mention the continual fear of having an unstable or end-of-life system). Thanks to you I am back to a normal and comfortable use. One day I'll figure out how to solve the bootpicker "black screen" ... and it will be perfect;-)
Also use my Mac Pro 2009 as my daily driver with macOS Big Sur and will be looking into this as well =) I don't yet have a really nice GPU yet but in few weeks I should be upgrading to 8 gigs and will see major difference. Love this machine!! This machine is still a beast!
Hi Jessie wow MASSIVE improvement on my cMP 5,1 with RX570 8GB OpenCL from 23,698 to 38,040 and Metal 22,987 to 43,324. CPU sgl 636 > 658 multi 3406 > 3587. I thought I'd share this as it help us die hards understand how small nuances can make a difference. Awesome video as usual. Thanks
Have to give you a huge thank you! With the latest project i've been working on, I was seeing noticeable performance issues in davinci resolve studio where I shouldn't have been(4,1 2xX5690, 96gb, 1tb m.2, w5700gpu). I had found your video while I was using MartinLo's OC package and was having similar issues. I switched to OCLP and had the same issues until making this change and now i'm good to go!
Danke schön! Thanks a lot! I followed your advice and got nearly the same results on my MacPro 5.1 (early 2009), 2x 3,46 GHz 6-core Intel Xenon, 96 GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 Monterey 12.5.1 and AMD Radeon RX 580 8 GB: Geekbench 4 score with smbios set to minimal: 91148 and smbios set to none:133349! What a difference!
Tkx. Do you experience some ctrl+c ctrl+v crash, right click crash and Safari left and right arrow crash? Have an iMac late 2015 21 running sequoia but always had the same problem since using oclp. Thanks for all your work! It helped me a lot.
This is awesome. Ive stepped away from my 5,1 because in Mojave I can copy files quickly but in Monterey it takes forever. Cant wait to test this. Thanks!
Thank you for this! I was looking for a fix to an audio issue I was having. Sound would stutter when playing from any system apps but sounded fine while playing through Chrome, even in 4k videos. This seems to have solved the issue for me.
My Geekbench 5 Metal score is 150051 using Martin Lo's 5,1 OC Package with RX6800XT and three montors. Give up SMBIOS spoofing for that higher GB score, and you will loose HEVC HWAccel.
@@DB-wx1zs The method definitely worked and it's worth a shot. I recommend a system with 16 GB of ram though just so everything runs as smoothly as possible :)
Tried this on my 2009 4,1 -> 5,1 with a RX 6600 XT, on OS 12.6.1. I got the same results as I had before, testing with Geekbench 5. I wonder if this issue was impacting people with specific equipment, namely the 500 series graphics cards? I have read comments from others that had the same issue with 500 cards. . . Who knows. Regardless, thank you so much for all of your testing and hard work!
Thanks! This is great info. I managed to upgrade my 5,1 Mac Pro to Big Sur, and all is working quite well. I hadn't tried Montery yet. I also read that Apple disabled USB 1.1 support in Ventura, so that will kill all the onboard USB ports. Hopefully, that can also be fixed with a patch.
MacBookPro5,1 (late 2008): Ventura installation is working with OCLP and with normal software update (running Big Sur). Rebooting into Ventura after fresh installation ended when I had to click the little arrow to go on (screen showing "hallo", "welcome", "bien venue" etc. for ever) Both terminates USB. Äh? What happend? Ventura is installed on an external USB drive! It loads via USB but USB is not working. The indicating light at the shiftkey stays off all the time while the system is booting. Hä? (I can´t find any settings in OCLP depending on USB.) Danke für die tolle Arbeit, die interessanten Videobeiträge und Ihren Umgang mit den Kommentarbereich. Servus
@@haraldmuethel7546 danke! Das Problem ist, das Macs vor 2012 von OpenCore (noch) nicht unterstützt werden. Und macOS initialisiert irgendwann die Hardware und auch USB, daher funktioniert es z.T. während der Installation, aber dann auf einmal nicht mehr…
@@JessiesFlying Besten Dank. Da Bluetooth via USB transportiert wird o.s.ä. wird auch eine Apple-Bluetooth-Tastatur nicht unterstützt. So mein Verständnis. Wie steuert Ventura die USB-Hardware an? Ich beobachte ob sich bei den Entwicklern des OCLP bzw. Herrn dosdude1 ergeben wird und teste selbst vorsichtig weiter. Bis einschließlich Monterey laufen alle OS-Systeme auf dem MBP5,1. Servus und einen schönen Tag. P.s. Bei Erfolgen meinerseits berichte ich eventuell.
Really thank you for your great videos, 🙏. Please do a video to test the speed and compatibility of Davinci Resolve Version 18 and similar software on MAC 5.1 with OpenCore Legacy
im on a MacPro 4,1 to a 5,1 and ive taught myself open core a few weeks ago maybe about two months ago. im pretty comfortable with it now. im definitely going to try this out thank you. will report back later today
So I’m happily running Monterey on my 5,1 and I’m getting used to having an iPhone and a Mac for the first time in my life lol. I was surprised pleasantly to see when I plugged in my iPhone it just requires the normal small update to use the phone and now it’s fully synced through my WiFi etc. it’s great. Everything including the spoofing being default to none. I cannot complain other than wanting to be able to use my phone as my camera but that’s just an extra flashy feature. I’ll definitely be using this machine comfortably for the foreseeable future. By the way I use the newest edition of ableton live suite and it’s absolutely crisp. There’s usually none to very minimal cpu usage and I mean it rides at around five percent normally. And around thirty at most when I’m really making a dense track. Never had a crash yet. Fingers crossed. I’ve learned many hard lessons along the way but it’s so great so far man. I’m so happy I bought this let alone taught myself open core with all of the help of people like yourself here on UA-cam including shout out as well to Mr. Macintosh. He just happened to be who I came across first and then led me to you and then the channel “official max pro upgrade guide” or something along those lines. Great help all of you. Oh and Mac sound solutions. Hell yeah.
I’ve been using Mac OS for just about as long as I’ve ever used a pc or mac since I was a kid because most of my schools would buy them in bulk instead of pc. And that’s just what we had all the way back to 2nd grade I played these weird two color black screen mother goose games on the macintoshes way back lol. But I never owned any. Couldn’t afford it flat out. I eventually got an iPhone and this is now my second. I saved up a little and bought a used Mac off of Facebook marketplace of all places locally from a guy who happened to know a thing or two and had previously cleaned it up and was willing to upgrade it but I said no thank you I’m broke enough and got it bone dry stock with the original GPU and everything original. I installed three extra hard drives. Two are ssd and one I installed open core on and I’m running that now. I bought a nicer Samsung Evo 4tb ssd for a ps4 I used to have and I saved it when I sold it. And that’s what I run off of. It’s amazingly smooth.
The seller had installed Monterey on it beforehand to hook me up. But not knowing I’m ignorant to the whole thing and I immediately updated it to I guess Ventura without knowing it. And I got bootlooped and no usb except for inside the boot loader for days and days. He eventually came back over and plugged in a usb and said stay at this version of software and you’ll be good. I didn’t learn my lesson. I accidentally wiped the mac original hard drive before I upgraded anything and I gad to learn the hard way from my moms Lenovo thinkpad and learn any and everything I could to get it fixed and I eventually made it work and I’m here. Lmao. Thanks again for all your and everyone’s work that helped.
I’m running the latest Monterey 12.6.6 on my 2010 Mac Pro using OCLP 0.6.7. Changing from minimum to none. gave me a 60% performance gain in Geekbench 5 Metal test on an RX 580. Thanks!
Thanks for your info. Greatly helpful to me. Please confirm if one is able to turn on updates after installing for example Big Sur on an older mac using the OpenCore?
I am reporting that the trick does not work for Vage 64 on Monterey @ Mac Pro 5,1, opencore legacy patcher version 0.6.2. Spoofing level "minimal" and "none" do not make any noticeable change of the Geekbench benchmark scores of Metal computation. Both Geekbench version 5&6 tested. Jessie's discover might be specific to the GPU model tested. Still thanks to Jessie for this interesting video.
As I have mentioned elsewhere, your videos have allowed me to resurrect my old Mac Pro cheesegrater (5,1), and run OS Monterey, which is required for some of the software I need for my work. So this comment is strictly one of those FYI's. My machine is a Mid 2010 with 2x24GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors, 64GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB video card. After installing Monterey, I noticed significant lag in some things, but not others. For example, even 4K video runs very smoothly, but once in a while, when moving an object across the screen, the object will lag behind the cursor, which never happened under Mojave. Likewise, in Lightroom (the software mentioned above, and which requires at least Catalina), the brush tool lags behind the cursor when editing images. I would have blamed that on Lightroom or my Wacom tablet, but it happens in other apps with just the mouse, too. So I wondered if I was suffering from the same lack of video performance you described. I downloaded the benchmark app and ran it a couple of times. The first time I ran it, I got a reading of 130407, which is not too shabby. Even so, I went ahead with the change you suggested, and reinstalled the boot loader. After rebooting, I tested again, and this time got 132077. A minor improvement. Since then, I've run it several more times, enough to know that something around 130000 +/- a little is about as good as it's going to get. I guess this means my lagging problem lies elsewhere. I will find it. Might take a while, but I'll find it. Again, thanks for the videos -- you've allowed me to keep working without having to spend a great deal of money I can't afford. Good work, keep it up.
@@JessiesFlying The mouse in plugged via one of the keyboard's ports, which is plugged into one of the original USB ports on the back of the Mac Pro. The Wacom is currently plugged into a USB-3 port on a USB-3 PCIe card. Please note this is not a lag in the video, but in cursor movements, and is not continuous. It comes and goes. I can't find any pattern, so I never know when something will lag. BTW, I really appreciate your help.
Update: OCLP was on None setting already. When I tried to change to minimal and build and install and reboot it doesn’t save. Maybe it needs to stay on None
Sorry for the late reply! Legacy Patcher always starts with the recommended settings, not with the ACTUAL settings. So it DOES save it correctly, you simply cannot see it...
Hello Jessie it is possible to use my iMac 2010 27"" with Ventura with the OpenCore-Patcher 0.6.7? i have installed already and everything works fine BUT photoshop gives an Unknown GPU error: "Your graphics processor is not compatible" Metal unavailable and insufficient VRAM (0mb pf 1500 mb required) What do you recommend to do to solve this matter? Thanks a lot for your time, great channel!!!!
I would try high Sierra (no need for Metal). If it’s too old and you cannot do what you intend to try Catalina (way faster than Big Sur). If still too old Big Sur 👍
Very strange, I'm wondering if GeekBench is biased towards the results of certain Mac model types. I would think Spoofing the model type would do only that, spoof the model type.
I thought that was well, but with OpenCore there are so many things working together that this might impact performance due to combination of settings… 🤔
Strange. I have mine set to none in the spoofing level on my 11,3 MBP, got 59K with OpenCL on Ventura, Monterey used to give me 62-63K. But I am getting higher Metal scores, Monterey gave me 55K, now I got 64K. Still not as much as I probably should get on an RX 5700 XT lol
I didn't do a pre-change check, and I'm using Geekbench 5. They must have changed the scale, or something is grievously wrong on my machine. 18840 OpenCL, 21570 with Metal
@@JessiesFlying Exactly the same as my one. Any idea why there is such a big score distance between these both cards? I am using Slot 2 because of the fans. It also has 16 Lanes as Slot 1. It should therefore function at the maximum possible speed.
I have had Ventura on my 5,1 for a long time now. I'm curious to see if this will still make a difference. However O am on OCLP 0.6.4, as any newer versions seem to cause a boot hang due to a memory panic. I have tried every version after 0.6.4 (0.6.5+) and none of them of work. At least not for Ventura. I keep a Mojave install on there too for obvious reasons, like troubleshooting this crap. Never had a problem booting back into Mojave or into Windows 11 with the newer patcher versions. But at least for me OCLP is broken on all versions post 0.6.5.
I’ve probably asked this before, but any options for those that sprang to Patched Sir from Dosdude1? Will I have to wipe my NVMe and start over in order to try Monterey? Running 2009 cMP 4.1 -> 5.1 SMBBIOS for NVMe boot 64GB RAM RX 580 Please advise.
Holy S&*#)! I was skeptical at first but I tried this and my Mac Pro 5,1 which has an RX 580 4 GB went from 25972 to 40183!! :D That's a 35% increase! :D thanks so much! Also I'm not sure how you're getting 100K plus points when our specs aren't that different. I have dual 3.06 x5675, 64 GB RAM, and RX 580 but only 4 GB. Is the 8 GB that much better?
Hi. Good tip. Can you help my with my imac 2011. I have try big sur end Monterey opencore patch with install on external usb 3 SSD but my speed drop on 26mb/s with blackmagic test. How can i fix it ?
Interesting. So now that this may help some performance issues what OS for cMP 5,1 2x 3.46ghz, 6 core, 96gb ram, RX580 8gb ? Mainly for Adobe PS and LR. I'm running Catalina with original OpenCore but recent Adobe versions require Big Sur or later.
@@JessiesFlying thank you for the response. So what is that OCLP setting then? Assuming OCLP is using the same underlying config in the end, which parameter do I need to modify please?
one question though, does removing the spoofing cause trouble when updating later on? lets say there's a secuirty update for monteray, and I updated through the settings. should I leave the spoofing on none? or return it to minimal before updating?
The only thing that could happen is that the update doesn’t show up in settings, so you would either change spoofing level or download installer and update manually
Spoof level already default to none on latest OCLP 0.5 on 27 imac mid 2011 3.1 i5 . Running Monterey on APFS format partition perfectly. Recommended. New open core is super easy to use
@@JessiesFlying I’m currently using Monterey on my 17” 2009 MacBook Pro and I’m really surprised by how smooth it runs for web browsing and watching videos I have a 2015 15” MacBook Pro on Monterey too and I don’t notice a huge difference in performance for these tasks, I haven’t done any graphic designing on the 2009 MacBook to compare it to my 2015 but I’m enjoying using the 2009 for the basics and Windows 10
I took a look at OpenCore 0.5.1 and the SMBIOS spoof level seems set at none by default ? Another observation ... I went from v 0.5.0 to 0.5.1 and I didn't have to reinstall the legacy patches
hello there! i watched your video and it gave me hope! can you confirm that i can run anything newer than 10.10 on my MacPro 3.1? Can you assist me how? Tank you in advance
@@JessiesFlying great tutorial, thank you so much! however, both my macs are exculded form this. with my MPro 3.1 and MBookPro Mid 2009, i stucked az 10.10. is there any hope to step up in my case? many thanks!
@@JessiesFlying back in the day i succeeded to install 10.11, but it was extremly slugish, so i went back to 10.10. the RAM is maxed out in both machines and i have SSDs in them. other than this it is all original config.
Hi there , i have a 2010 17 inch running Monterey . This smbios setting was already set to none . I have watched a few video on how to speed system up. I have max ram and ssd but it's just a little bit laggy. Just 10% more speed would probably do the trick . Anything anybody can suggest ?
Hello, i install a mac pro 5.1 2009 with opencore for monterey... all is done in bigsur but for teh install of monterey i gave a message for a firmware ? do you have a solution ? THX
Es gibt anscheinend einen ganz simplen Grund hinsichtlich des Spoofing-Levels: iMacPro1,1 sowie MacPro7,1 sind die einzigen SMBIOS, dessen Graphics-Stack auf dedizierte AMD Polaris/Vega/Navi GPUs ausgelegt ist. Das hat zwei Vorteile: H.264/H.265-Kodierung/Dekodierung über die GPU DRM in Safari/Apple TV+/Apple Music usw. Würde man jetzt wieder das SMBIOS auf das zurückändern, was echt ist (bei nicht Polaris+ GPUs wird das auch automatisch durchgeführt meines Wissens), verliert man entsprechend das. Und bspw. Videos über die Grafikkarte rendern fände ich jetzt persönlich schon vorteilhaft. Und dass SIP geschwächt wurde, hat natürlich den einfachen Grund, dass bei Ventura auf allen Macs der Siegel beim Root Volume Patch gebrochen werden muss.
@@JessiesFlying Ich geh jetzt mal net davon aus, dass dein cMP noch als Hauptsystem eingesetzt wird (lol), aber wenn das der Fall ist/wäre, würde beim Videoschnitt oder was auch immer eher der Export über die GPU von Vorteil sein, oder hat der höhere OpenCL Score eine deutlich größere Bedeutung? Bzw. in welchen Bereichen macht ein dGPU-only SMBIOS grundsätzlich mehr Sinn?
@@TECHNIKVERBOT doch, es ist noch mein Hauptsystem for Videoschnitt 😂 ich habe schon das Gefühl, dass iMovie flüssiger läuft - kann aber nur Einbildung sein…
great video, but I have a different question, I have a 2012 Mac Pro and when I try to turn it on, the first 2 LEDs above it turn on a red light, it blinks quickly only once when I try to turn it on Has this problem happened to you or do you know someone who has and do you know why?
@@JessiesFlying I have removed the video card, memories and even so it still does not turn on and with the blinking red light I really do not know what else to do, this is very strange
Getting pretty poor performance on 2012 Macbook Pro 13" Core i5 on Monterrey. SSD and 16gb ram installed, but pretty laggy. Any chance this method would help?
Ok i just want to know how to access the SM bios patcher so i can actually test this process. where in the video does it show how to access the patcher.
This video is not quite correct. I have to add my experience trying this out. Tested this on my test cPM 5,1 with Monterey 12.6.1 and OC 0.5.1 and an RX580. The reason you see benchmark improvement IS because setting SMBIOS to none breaks the H264/H265 decoding native drivers in MacOS (basically OC injecting shikigva=96 shiki-id=Mac-7BA5B2D9E42DDD94 into bootargs). The moment I switched to none, I was able to confirm about 35% increase in Geekbench scores, but VideoProc could not see the hardware encoder/decoder for video editing. Short answer is use this tweak if you do not need hardware video acceleration, if NOT use this tweak if you do video encoding / decoding.. This includes, iMovie, FC Pro, VideoProc, twitch, etc.
Thx for the info, you’re basically right. But in my experience with switched to NONE (and therefore without H264 decoding) iMovie feels more fluent then before. Do you know any more benchmarks to test the differences?
depending on what you need, OpenGL gets faster… but I’m actually testing both settings and Martin Lo’s package against each other - stay tuned for another video!
@@JessiesFlying I asked oclp developers and that was response from them, like you said could be great for some people.FYI Not knocking video think you do really good work.
Hey Jessie, love yur vids btw. Here's my problem: I installed Somona via opencore on my iMac 27'' from 2017. Doing this i discovered that theres also a windows partition on my hd. I'd like to delete my Hds, install vanilla/offical Mac Os and then the opencore way you recommend. But whenever I press the option button when restarting, I can only choose between Windows and the OpenCore option. Sometimes the MacintoshHD Appears but whenever I choose it, there is nothing to boot. Would you please help me? Thanks.
thanks for the answer! When I choose EFI Boot i can choose between the WIndows Partition and Macintosh HD, which starts Somona if i select this option. But i wonder how i can access the boot menue that allows to erase the HD and reinstallt the original MacOS @@JessiesFlying
Now I want to try this on either mon 2012 Mini or MBP ! Hence I need to install Big Sur or Ventura (both still running Catalina)... before going back to Mojave if unsatisfied with newer macOS 🙂
hmm is it ok to update MacPro 5,1 12.6.1 through software updates? I just did the trick here and working great! but im not sure if its ok to update to 12.6.1 from 12.6
@@JessiesFlying ok so i cant just do the standard update as we did from 12.5 to 12.6? I have to go through the entire process with USB and opencore to go to 12.6.1?
As soon as you install OpenCore Legacy patcher it will delete Martin Lo‘s config. But you can copy it to the EFI Partition afterwards, but then ask Settings of the legacy patcher are gone - either… or!
@@JessiesFlying That's what I use- ;) I ran some GB4 tests and I get normal results (around 130.000) with High Sierra, Big Sur and Monterey. But the strange thing is that Adobe Première under Monterey is really slow compares to Big Sur. Even the OS seems smoother, and even smoother with Mojave or High Sierra :/
@@JessiesFlying Hmm that's odd that it was on mine. What specs does your Mac Pro have? Mine is a 2012 12 core 2.4ghz with a gtx680. Will be interesting to hear your results :)
Grat tutorial. Thank You so much. But i have a problem. After installing (mac 5.1 - both Big Sur and Monterey) on the original card 5770 os works great! Unfortunately, after installing the metal RX 580 card, after starting the system, there is no signal on the monitor even after 15 minutes. There is no signal. Please tell me what I am doing wrong when replacing the card. Maybe I should change something in the system before I swap cards? Earlier, about a year ago, I installed Big Sur according to your tutorial (ua-cam.com/video/RMhGfm7Wx6I/v-deo.html) and it was enough to replace the cards and the system started. I kindly ask for help and best regards:)
@@JessiesFlying Hey just tried this, for some reason, any streaming videos, eg. Apple TV, Cruncy Roll, Netflix etc. stop loading and gives errors - perhaps HDCP settings are affected - switching back to minimal seems to allow video playback once again, will try and upgrade the Opencore and try it again
Mojave should run fine with OpenCore. I would recommend v0.6.4 as you don’t need the settings for rapid security response RSR in macOS 13.3 and newer which were implemented in 0.6.5…
Hi Jessie, ich habe seit dem update auf Ventura eine wesentlich vereinfachte Installation/Update registriert als auch einen erheblichen Performance ggü. Monterey. Natürlich habe ich nach deinem Video gleich mal unter SMBIOS nachgeschaut und dort ist bei Spoofing bereits "None" eingetragen. MBP mid 14 11,3. Bin total happy.
@@JessiesFlying er erkennt nur die Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB Karte - deswegen scheitert der Benchmark test. Wie bekomme ich denn die Nvidia aktiviert? Den Post Install root patch habe ich gemacht...all availble Patches already installed......
![Ventura on Unsupported Macs [2012-2016] OpenCore Legacy Patcher!!!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3LOqHMo5WSQ/mqdefault.jpg)
A very big thank you! I use a 2009 MacPro 5.1 for my daily work as a small freelancer and was losing a lot of time since the move from Big Sure to Monterey (not to mention the continual fear of having an unstable or end-of-life system). Thanks to you I am back to a normal and comfortable use. One day I'll figure out how to solve the bootpicker "black screen" ... and it will be perfect;-)
Thank you so much! You’re very welcome! And if there are any questions don’t hesitate to ask 👍
Also use my Mac Pro 2009 as my daily driver with macOS Big Sur and will be looking into this as well =) I don't yet have a really nice GPU yet but in few weeks I should be upgrading to 8 gigs and will see major difference. Love this machine!! This machine is still a beast!
@@otrkid7869 absolutely!
If you were able to snag a RX580, forget which version. It will automatically load the boot picker.
Hi Jessie wow MASSIVE improvement on my cMP 5,1 with RX570 8GB OpenCL from 23,698 to 38,040 and Metal 22,987 to 43,324. CPU sgl 636 > 658 multi 3406 > 3587.
I thought I'd share this as it help us die hards understand how small nuances can make a difference. Awesome video as usual. Thanks
Great to hear, thx for the info!
additional info. running Monterey 12.6 with OCLP single tray CPU, ram 3 sticks 24 GB, boot/main drive 500gb m.2 nvme. three spinning disks onboard for Raid and Timemachine.
Have to give you a huge thank you! With the latest project i've been working on, I was seeing noticeable performance issues in davinci resolve studio where I shouldn't have been(4,1 2xX5690, 96gb, 1tb m.2, w5700gpu). I had found your video while I was using MartinLo's OC package and was having similar issues. I switched to OCLP and had the same issues until making this change and now i'm good to go!
Great to hear that I could help 😬
It worked! Got same results as you - a massive GPU performance increase. Thank you so much!
Great to hear - sharing appreciated 😬
Danke schön! Thanks a lot! I followed your advice and got nearly the same results on my MacPro 5.1 (early 2009), 2x 3,46 GHz 6-core Intel Xenon, 96 GB 1333 Mhz DDR3 Monterey 12.5.1 and AMD Radeon RX 580 8 GB: Geekbench 4 score with smbios set to minimal: 91148 and smbios set to none:133349! What a difference!
Absolutely! Gern geschehen! ;-)
Love Mac Pro 5.1, still my main machine and work horse for my pro photo editing.
wow so pro
For the 2012 MacBook Pro running Ventura and OCLP 0.5.1, the spoof level is default set at "none." Just an FYI.
Thx!
Thank you. You have become one of my favourite channels. Keep the good work.
Thank you, appreciate it 😊 feel free to share 😬
Tim Cook has throttled my MacPro5,1 and Apple has eliminated some system features High Sierra had originally. Thanks for your more performance advice.
you're welcome! ;-)
Tkx. Do you experience some ctrl+c ctrl+v crash, right click crash and Safari left and right arrow crash? Have an iMac late 2015 21 running sequoia but always had the same problem since using oclp. Thanks for all your work! It helped me a lot.
@@088Noir no, never had crashes like that
Tnx Jessie :D and yes, keep´em coming. I now rely on these updates to get what's new in OCLP :D
This is awesome. Ive stepped away from my 5,1 because in Mojave I can copy files quickly but in Monterey it takes forever. Cant wait to test this. Thanks!
Keep me updated!
Thank you good job
Ok. I will try it as soon as I get home
Hi Jessie, Thanks for all your vidéos and efforts to make all this easier for us.
Keep it up,
Cheers from Réunion Island ✌️
Thank you so much, greetings from freezing cold Germany🥶
I went from 28k to 44k in Geekbench 5 Metal on my 4,1/5,1, that's an increase over 50% for me. RX 580 running Monterey.
Then my video was helpful at last 👍😬
Thank you for this! I was looking for a fix to an audio issue I was having. Sound would stutter when playing from any system apps but sounded fine while playing through Chrome, even in 4k videos. This seems to have solved the issue for me.
great!
How you changed to None? I have the same problem here
This is great stuff. Doing the very first OCLP run on my old Cheesegrater today and I'll give this a try. Thanks!
Keep me updated! 🚀
GREAT WORK JESSIE, GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK. Keep the vids coming buddy.🙂
Will do, thx!
My Geekbench 5 Metal score is 150051 using Martin Lo's 5,1 OC Package with RX6800XT and three montors. Give up SMBIOS spoofing for that higher GB score, and you will loose HEVC HWAccel.
Thx for the info 👍
Just upgraded my 2012 MacBook Pro to Ventura using the patcher and I was looking to see if I could squeeze more performance out of. Thank you so much!
You're welcome!
Did this method work?
@@DB-wx1zs The method definitely worked and it's worth a shot. I recommend a system with 16 GB of ram though just so everything runs as smoothly as possible :)
@@That_one_cowboy awesome thanks
Tried this on my 2009 4,1 -> 5,1 with a RX 6600 XT, on OS 12.6.1. I got the same results as I had before, testing with Geekbench 5. I wonder if this issue was impacting people with specific equipment, namely the 500 series graphics cards? I have read comments from others that had the same issue with 500 cards. . . Who knows. Regardless, thank you so much for all of your testing and hard work!
Thanks for the info 👍
Thanks! This is great info. I managed to upgrade my 5,1 Mac Pro to Big Sur, and all is working quite well. I hadn't tried Montery yet. I also read that Apple disabled USB 1.1 support in Ventura, so that will kill all the onboard USB ports. Hopefully, that can also be fixed with a patch.
They brought back so many old Mac’s that relied on USB 1.1 with the post install root patch… 👍
Thank you for the donation! 😬🚀
MacBookPro5,1 (late 2008): Ventura installation is working with OCLP and with normal software update (running Big Sur). Rebooting into Ventura after fresh installation ended when I had to click the little arrow to go on (screen showing "hallo", "welcome", "bien venue" etc. for ever) Both terminates USB.
Äh? What happend? Ventura is installed on an external USB drive! It loads via USB but USB is not working. The indicating light at the shiftkey stays off all the time while the system is booting. Hä?
(I can´t find any settings in OCLP depending on USB.)
Danke für die tolle Arbeit, die interessanten Videobeiträge und Ihren Umgang mit den Kommentarbereich.
Servus
@@haraldmuethel7546 danke! Das Problem ist, das Macs vor 2012 von OpenCore (noch) nicht unterstützt werden. Und macOS initialisiert irgendwann die Hardware und auch USB, daher funktioniert es z.T. während der Installation, aber dann auf einmal nicht mehr…
@@JessiesFlying Besten Dank. Da Bluetooth via USB transportiert wird o.s.ä. wird auch eine Apple-Bluetooth-Tastatur nicht unterstützt. So mein Verständnis.
Wie steuert Ventura die USB-Hardware an? Ich beobachte ob sich bei den Entwicklern des OCLP bzw. Herrn dosdude1 ergeben wird und teste selbst vorsichtig weiter.
Bis einschließlich Monterey laufen alle OS-Systeme auf dem MBP5,1.
Servus und einen schönen Tag.
P.s. Bei Erfolgen meinerseits berichte ich eventuell.
Installed Linux Mint on mine. OS up to date with no hassle and increased perfs for sure
Great choice!
Really thank you for your great videos, 🙏.
Please do a video to test the speed and compatibility of Davinci Resolve Version 18 and similar software on MAC 5.1 with OpenCore Legacy
Good idea, will think about that👍
im on a MacPro 4,1 to a 5,1 and ive taught myself open core a few weeks ago maybe about two months ago. im pretty comfortable with it now. im definitely going to try this out thank you. will report back later today
keep me updated!
So I’m happily running Monterey on my 5,1 and I’m getting used to having an iPhone and a Mac for the first time in my life lol. I was surprised pleasantly to see when I plugged in my iPhone it just requires the normal small update to use the phone and now it’s fully synced through my WiFi etc. it’s great. Everything including the spoofing being default to none. I cannot complain other than wanting to be able to use my phone as my camera but that’s just an extra flashy feature. I’ll definitely be using this machine comfortably for the foreseeable future. By the way I use the newest edition of ableton live suite and it’s absolutely crisp. There’s usually none to very minimal cpu usage and I mean it rides at around five percent normally. And around thirty at most when I’m really making a dense track. Never had a crash yet. Fingers crossed. I’ve learned many hard lessons along the way but it’s so great so far man. I’m so happy I bought this let alone taught myself open core with all of the help of people like yourself here on UA-cam including shout out as well to Mr. Macintosh. He just happened to be who I came across first and then led me to you and then the channel “official max pro upgrade guide” or something along those lines. Great help all of you. Oh and Mac sound solutions. Hell yeah.
I’ve been using Mac OS for just about as long as I’ve ever used a pc or mac since I was a kid because most of my schools would buy them in bulk instead of pc. And that’s just what we had all the way back to 2nd grade I played these weird two color black screen mother goose games on the macintoshes way back lol. But I never owned any. Couldn’t afford it flat out. I eventually got an iPhone and this is now my second. I saved up a little and bought a used Mac off of Facebook marketplace of all places locally from a guy who happened to know a thing or two and had previously cleaned it up and was willing to upgrade it but I said no thank you I’m broke enough and got it bone dry stock with the original GPU and everything original. I installed three extra hard drives. Two are ssd and one I installed open core on and I’m running that now. I bought a nicer Samsung Evo 4tb ssd for a ps4 I used to have and I saved it when I sold it. And that’s what I run off of. It’s amazingly smooth.
The seller had installed Monterey on it beforehand to hook me up. But not knowing I’m ignorant to the whole thing and I immediately updated it to I guess Ventura without knowing it. And I got bootlooped and no usb except for inside the boot loader for days and days. He eventually came back over and plugged in a usb and said stay at this version of software and you’ll be good. I didn’t learn my lesson. I accidentally wiped the mac original hard drive before I upgraded anything and I gad to learn the hard way from my moms Lenovo thinkpad and learn any and everything I could to get it fixed and I eventually made it work and I’m here. Lmao. Thanks again for all your and everyone’s work that helped.
Awesome Jessie, im on opencore too on my 2009 iMac, by any chance do you experience a graphics glitch after waking up the imac upon sleep?
Yes, sleep is glitchy on old Macs - I recommend switching sleep mode off
@@JessiesFlying Awesome, thanks! Subbed'
I’m running the latest Monterey 12.6.6 on my 2010 Mac Pro using OCLP 0.6.7. Changing from minimum to none. gave me a 60% performance gain in Geekbench 5 Metal test on an RX 580.
Thanks!
Great 👍
Thanks for your info. Greatly helpful to me. Please confirm if one is able to turn on updates after installing for example Big Sur on an older mac using the OpenCore?
Yes, updates can be installed as on any regular supported Mac 👍
@@JessiesFlying thanks.
I am reporting that the trick does not work for Vage 64 on Monterey @ Mac Pro 5,1, opencore legacy patcher version 0.6.2. Spoofing level "minimal" and "none" do not make any noticeable change of the Geekbench benchmark scores of Metal computation. Both Geekbench version 5&6 tested. Jessie's discover might be specific to the GPU model tested. Still thanks to Jessie for this interesting video.
Thanks for the insight, I don’t had a Vega 64 to test 👍
In Geekbench 6 I see only 495 single and around 5500 multi. Mac Pro 4,1 flashed to 5,1.
Where does the 100,000+ come from?
The 100.000+ are Geekbench 5 GPU scores für the RX580
Hi Jessie,
I have lots of trouble with slow Monterey on my Mac Pro 5,1. Is this tip still valid for June 2024?
Didn’t check it lately but it should be… 👍
Just picked up a 5,1. I'll keep this in mind when I patch!
Keep me updated!
On OpenCore Legacy Patcher 0.51, Ventura and my Macbook Pro mid 2014 the default Spoof level is none.
So there should be no performance impact 👍
As I have mentioned elsewhere, your videos have allowed me to resurrect my old Mac Pro cheesegrater (5,1), and run OS Monterey, which is required for some of the software I need for my work. So this comment is strictly one of those FYI's.
My machine is a Mid 2010 with 2x24GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processors, 64GB RAM, and an AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB video card.
After installing Monterey, I noticed significant lag in some things, but not others. For example, even 4K video runs very smoothly, but once in a while, when moving an object across the screen, the object will lag behind the cursor, which never happened under Mojave. Likewise, in Lightroom (the software mentioned above, and which requires at least Catalina), the brush tool lags behind the cursor when editing images. I would have blamed that on Lightroom or my Wacom tablet, but it happens in other apps with just the mouse, too. So I wondered if I was suffering from the same lack of video performance you described.
I downloaded the benchmark app and ran it a couple of times. The first time I ran it, I got a reading of 130407, which is not too shabby. Even so, I went ahead with the change you suggested, and reinstalled the boot loader. After rebooting, I tested again, and this time got 132077. A minor improvement. Since then, I've run it several more times, enough to know that something around 130000 +/- a little is about as good as it's going to get.
I guess this means my lagging problem lies elsewhere. I will find it. Might take a while, but I'll find it.
Again, thanks for the videos -- you've allowed me to keep working without having to spend a great deal of money I can't afford. Good work, keep it up.
That's great to hear - you're welcome! Is it possible that it's a Bluetooth problem? Maybe try a USB mouse?
@@JessiesFlying Thanks for replying. Bluetooth is turned off. Both mouse and Wacom are USB. Thanks for the tip, though.
@@don06281 🤔 at the original usb port or with an additional card? That’s a really weird error…
@@JessiesFlying The mouse in plugged via one of the keyboard's ports, which is plugged into one of the original USB ports on the back of the Mac Pro. The Wacom is currently plugged into a USB-3 port on a USB-3 PCIe card.
Please note this is not a lag in the video, but in cursor movements, and is not continuous. It comes and goes. I can't find any pattern, so I never know when something will lag.
BTW, I really appreciate your help.
@@don06281 you’re welcome, but I really have no idea what that could be…
Just checked my 6,1 with Ventura None was default also my Geekbench scores haven't changed much from Monterey.
Thx for the info 👍
Same here on a Mac Mini 2012
@@IAmZen_007 thx!
Great catch. I will try this on my MBP 11,3 to see if any difference.
Update: OCLP was on None setting already. When I tried to change to minimal and build and install and reboot it doesn’t save. Maybe it needs to stay on None
Sorry for the late reply! Legacy Patcher always starts with the recommended settings, not with the ACTUAL settings. So it DOES save it correctly, you simply cannot see it...
Hello Jessie it is possible to use my iMac 2010 27"" with Ventura with the OpenCore-Patcher 0.6.7? i have installed already and everything works fine BUT photoshop gives an Unknown GPU error: "Your graphics processor is not compatible" Metal unavailable and insufficient VRAM (0mb pf 1500 mb required) What do you recommend to do to solve this matter? Thanks a lot for your time, great channel!!!!
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Wow Thank You i will have to see about mine since i thought something was up with the CPU Speed on my 5,1.
Keep me updated!
Hi Jassie, which "unsupported" OS X would you suggest for macbook pro 2009 core duo 2.26 8gb ram & ssd for the fastest performance? all the best.
I would try high Sierra (no need for Metal). If it’s too old and you cannot do what you intend to try Catalina (way faster than Big Sur). If still too old Big Sur 👍
@@JessiesFlying Thanx;)
There must be a reason for the minimal setting as default.
Maybe in the future the updates don’t show up with „none“ but up to now they still do. And you can always change it back and check for updates…
Early 2015 11 inch MacBook Air already defaulted one “none”
Late 2013 15” MacBook Pro retina. Already set to none.
@@adenovirus. thx for the info!
Very strange, I'm wondering if GeekBench is biased towards the results of certain Mac model types. I would think Spoofing the model type would do only that, spoof the model type.
I thought that was well, but with OpenCore there are so many things working together that this might impact performance due to combination of settings… 🤔
Strange. I have mine set to none in the spoofing level on my 11,3 MBP, got 59K with OpenCL on Ventura, Monterey used to give me 62-63K. But I am getting higher Metal scores, Monterey gave me 55K, now I got 64K. Still not as much as I probably should get on an RX 5700 XT lol
Sometimes the benchmarks differ, maybe try some restarts and bench again… 🤔
@@JessiesFlying still kinda strange that I'm getting so much less performance on a card way more powerful than RX 580
@@Piipperi800 maybe you are using geekbench 5 instead of 4
@@andresd270 no, it’s Geekbench 4. but your MacBook Pro is from 2013/2014 and so is the graphic card. Mine is from 2017, so way more powerful
@@andresd270 is there a reason to use Geekbench 4 over 5?
I didn't do a pre-change check, and I'm using Geekbench 5. They must have changed the scale, or something is grievously wrong on my machine. 18840 OpenCL, 21570 with Metal
You cannot compare Geekbench 4 and 5 scores… ☝️
Great video! Keep up the great work!
😉
Using none instead minimal in SMBIOS kills my Bluetooth Adapter (Asus BT400) OCP Vers. 0.5.1 (MP 5.1)
Are you using the stock Bluetooth adapter?
@@JessiesFlying No external one(Asus BT400). The internal was removed.
My iMac is using startup disk booting from a ssd drive. What changes in the Install must I make? Can you make a video on installing iMac only?
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Thank you very much!!!!It can be very helpful!!!
Hello Jessie,
which GPU do you use to get this level? I am using a RX580 and get a Metal Score 53.000 with Spoof Level "None".
@@MediaMovie2002 it’s a Sapphire Radeon RX580
@@JessiesFlying Exactly the same as my one. Any idea why there is such a big score distance between these both cards? I am using Slot 2 because of the fans. It also has 16 Lanes as Slot 1. It should therefore function at the maximum possible speed.
@@MediaMovie2002 did you use the same benchmark version?
@@JessiesFlying I am using Geekbench 5.
Hi, interesting. Curious on what GPU this is observed?
With Radeon VII I could not observe it under Monterey, unfortunately.
AMD RX580
I have had Ventura on my 5,1 for a long time now. I'm curious to see if this will still make a difference. However O am on OCLP 0.6.4, as any newer versions seem to cause a boot hang due to a memory panic. I have tried every version after 0.6.4 (0.6.5+) and none of them of work. At least not for Ventura. I keep a Mojave install on there too for obvious reasons, like troubleshooting this crap. Never had a problem booting back into Mojave or into Windows 11 with the newer patcher versions. But at least for me OCLP is broken on all versions post 0.6.5.
which Ventura version do you use? 0.6.5 had a lot of changes due to Ventura 13.3 (and the RSR updates)
Nice Job Jessie!! Thank you!!!
I’ve probably asked this before, but any options for those that sprang to Patched Sir from Dosdude1?
Will I have to wipe my NVMe and start over in order to try Monterey?
Running 2009 cMP 4.1 -> 5.1
SMBBIOS for NVMe boot
64GB RAM
RX 580
Please advise.
It’s not advised to update a patched macOS with OpenCore to a newer version as the Patches might interfere…
@@JessiesFlying That’s what I figured. Thanks for the help!!!
Holy S&*#)! I was skeptical at first but I tried this and my Mac Pro 5,1 which has an RX 580 4 GB went from 25972 to 40183!! :D That's a 35% increase! :D thanks so much! Also I'm not sure how you're getting 100K plus points when our specs aren't that different. I have dual 3.06 x5675, 64 GB RAM, and RX 580 but only 4 GB. Is the 8 GB that much better?
I'm using Geekbench 5.4.5 by the way
The 135.000 points are from Geekbench 4, you cannot compare it to version 5 😂
@@JessiesFlying oohh i see. good!
didn't see that. thanks! :)
Hi. Good tip. Can you help my with my imac 2011. I have try big sur end Monterey opencore patch with install on external usb 3 SSD but my speed drop on 26mb/s with blackmagic test. How can i fix it ?
Did you install root patches already?
WORKS LIKE BUTTER! THANKS SO MUCH. YOU'RE THE BEST!
You’re welcome😬 sharing appreciated
Interesting. So now that this may help some performance issues what OS for cMP 5,1 2x 3.46ghz, 6 core, 96gb ram, RX580 8gb ?
Mainly for Adobe PS and LR. I'm running Catalina with original OpenCore but recent Adobe versions require Big Sur or later.
I’m running Monterey without any issues on my cMP5,1
Is this only for OCLP or also when using Martin Lo‘s OC package on a cMP 5,1?
I had the same bad performance with Martin‘s package…
@@JessiesFlying thank you for the response. So what is that OCLP setting then? Assuming OCLP is using the same underlying config in the end, which parameter do I need to modify please?
@@VeryFunnyStuffs the settings change several settings in the config.plist and loads different kext files, it’s not only one specific entry
Is there someone who succeeded in installing Ventura in RAID0?
Interested
one question though, does removing the spoofing cause trouble when updating later on? lets say there's a secuirty update for monteray, and I updated through the settings. should I leave the spoofing on none? or return it to minimal before updating?
The only thing that could happen is that the update doesn’t show up in settings, so you would either change spoofing level or download installer and update manually
Strange, I had 5.1 and SMBios Soon Level was standard on "none" out of the box. 😊
So no problem at all😬
Hello, I did a test with geekbench 5 in macpro 2012 with 120GB ram and AMD RX6900XT 16 GB 108230 OpenCL Score & Metal score 160996
Great, thx for the info!
Spoof level already default to none on latest OCLP 0.5 on 27 imac mid 2011 3.1 i5 . Running Monterey on APFS format partition perfectly. Recommended. New open core is super easy to use
Thx for the info
Hey, I have an 27" imac mi 2011 to, what version of macos is the best option for this mac ?
@@tomvidal6078 I recommend Catalina as it gets really slow since Big Sur. But Big Sur or Monterey is possible as well…
@@JessiesFlyingThank you ! Big sur and Monterey are slow even if i've put an ssd in the mac ?
@@tomvidal6078 more or less yes, it depends on CPU and amount of Ram
What happens if you choose the advanced level? does it completely throttle the performance?
As far as I could test yes
@@JessiesFlying you would think that feature would enhance performance instead of completely throttle it
@@ColinsCity test it and keep us posted plz
@@JessiesFlying I’m currently using Monterey on my 17” 2009 MacBook Pro and I’m really surprised by how smooth it runs for web browsing and watching videos I have a 2015 15” MacBook Pro on Monterey too and I don’t notice a huge difference in performance for these tasks, I haven’t done any graphic designing on the 2009 MacBook to compare it to my 2015 but I’m enjoying using the 2009 for the basics and Windows 10
@@ColinsCity thx for the info!
I took a look at OpenCore 0.5.1 and the SMBIOS spoof level seems set at none by default ?
Another observation ... I went from v 0.5.0 to 0.5.1 and I didn't have to reinstall the legacy patches
Nope, root Patches only need to be installed once, but you don’t know if a newer OpenCore had newer root Patches, so I would reinstall them anyway
Why i cant change to None in smbios, this mod dont work in 4,1, It always back to minimal?
None doesn’t work with OpenCore
hello there! i watched your video and it gave me hope! can you confirm that i can run anything newer than 10.10 on my MacPro 3.1? Can you assist me how? Tank you in advance
Yes - check out my ultimate tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/mtN8zxGVNwQ/v-deo.html
@@JessiesFlying great tutorial, thank you so much! however, both my macs are exculded form this. with my MPro 3.1 and MBookPro Mid 2009, i stucked az 10.10. is there any hope to step up in my case? many thanks!
@@imrenemeth604 are you sure? At least 10.13 High Sierra (no Metal requirement) should work with OpenCore… 🤔
@@JessiesFlying back in the day i succeeded to install 10.11, but it was extremly slugish, so i went back to 10.10. the RAM is maxed out in both machines and i have SSDs in them. other than this it is all original config.
@@imrenemeth604 so high Sierra should work… 🤔
I have the 5,1 at work. Updgraded it but sadly due to the ATI non-metal video card, VMware Fusion wouldn't run. Any suggestions?
VMWare doesn’t work due to missing CPU features of the old CPUs…
Hi there , i have a 2010 17 inch running Monterey . This smbios setting was already set to none . I have watched a few video on how to speed system up. I have max ram and ssd but it's just a little bit laggy. Just 10% more speed would probably do the trick . Anything anybody can suggest ?
I think the hardware slowly is getting to its limits....
Hello, i install a mac pro 5.1 2009 with opencore for monterey... all is done in bigsur but for teh install of monterey i gave a message for a firmware ? do you have a solution ?
THX
Check out if you have the latest firmware installed, or increase spoofing level in the OCLP…
My OCLP Patcher V0.5.1's SMBIOS spoof was already set to None. MacbookPro 13 Mid 2014
So there should be no difference or performance impact 👍
How well does your macbook run with the newer OS?
@@keith4669 benchmarking right now, but my MacBook Air 2013 has no difference, slightly faster as it seems… 👍
@@JessiesFlying what about battery life, any better?
@@keith4669 no experience yet…
Es gibt anscheinend einen ganz simplen Grund hinsichtlich des Spoofing-Levels: iMacPro1,1 sowie MacPro7,1 sind die einzigen SMBIOS, dessen Graphics-Stack auf dedizierte AMD Polaris/Vega/Navi GPUs ausgelegt ist.
Das hat zwei Vorteile:
H.264/H.265-Kodierung/Dekodierung über die GPU
DRM in Safari/Apple TV+/Apple Music usw.
Würde man jetzt wieder das SMBIOS auf das zurückändern, was echt ist (bei nicht Polaris+ GPUs wird das auch automatisch durchgeführt meines Wissens), verliert man entsprechend das.
Und bspw. Videos über die Grafikkarte rendern fände ich jetzt persönlich schon vorteilhaft.
Und dass SIP geschwächt wurde, hat natürlich den einfachen Grund, dass bei Ventura auf allen Macs der Siegel beim Root Volume Patch gebrochen werden muss.
Danke für die Hintergrund-Infos 👍
@@JessiesFlying Ich geh jetzt mal net davon aus, dass dein cMP noch als Hauptsystem eingesetzt wird (lol), aber wenn das der Fall ist/wäre, würde beim Videoschnitt oder was auch immer eher der Export über die GPU von Vorteil sein, oder hat der höhere OpenCL Score eine deutlich größere Bedeutung?
Bzw. in welchen Bereichen macht ein dGPU-only SMBIOS grundsätzlich mehr Sinn?
@@TECHNIKVERBOT doch, es ist noch mein Hauptsystem for Videoschnitt 😂 ich habe schon das Gefühl, dass iMovie flüssiger läuft - kann aber nur Einbildung sein…
Really interesting! Did you notice any differences in CPU performance??
Nope, nothing at all
@@JessiesFlying very cool! I’m going to give this a go on my 2013’MBP later
@@decky1990 keep me informed! 🚀
@@JessiesFlying showing as none on SMBIOS :( no improvement to trial
@@decky1990 😢
great video, but I have a different question, I have a 2012 Mac Pro and when I try to turn it on, the first 2 LEDs above it turn on a red light, it blinks quickly only once when I try to turn it on
Has this problem happened to you or do you know someone who has and do you know why?
Hardware error. Try to remove as much as possible and see if it starts as all…
@@JessiesFlying I have removed the video card, memories and even so it still does not turn on and with the blinking red light I really do not know what else to do, this is very strange
@@Cinefilo_Celuloide if you want to invest the money get another PSU and see if that works… 🤔
@@JessiesFlying the power supply has been tested and it works perfectly, that's where I go crazy and I don't know what to think
@@Cinefilo_Celuloide then it’s the mainboard 😩
thanks for the video, it made benchmark higher, but stopped videoacceleration in videoproc, so i wont using this approach.
Interesting, will dig deeper into that… 🤔
Getting pretty poor performance on 2012 Macbook Pro 13" Core i5 on Monterrey. SSD and 16gb ram installed, but pretty laggy. Any chance this method would help?
Did you install post install root patch already?
You need to apply the post installation root patch from the main menu to fix that.
Ok i just want to know how to access the SM bios patcher so i can actually test this process. where in the video does it show how to access the patcher.
Just start OpenCore Legancy Patcher und click on "Settings" --> "SMBIOS"
I don’t know what happen but I have a Mac mini 2012 and now it’s showing that I have the Mac mini 2018
I need help pleaseee
That’s called „spoofing“ a newer model. Install latest OpenCore legacy patcher and it should be fine
This video is not quite correct. I have to add my experience trying this out. Tested this on my test cPM 5,1 with Monterey 12.6.1 and OC 0.5.1 and an RX580. The reason you see benchmark improvement IS because setting SMBIOS to none breaks the H264/H265 decoding native drivers in MacOS (basically OC injecting shikigva=96 shiki-id=Mac-7BA5B2D9E42DDD94 into bootargs).
The moment I switched to none, I was able to confirm about 35% increase in Geekbench scores, but VideoProc could not see the hardware encoder/decoder for video editing. Short answer is use this tweak if you do not need hardware video acceleration, if NOT use this tweak if you do video encoding / decoding.. This includes, iMovie, FC Pro, VideoProc, twitch, etc.
Thx for the info, you’re basically right. But in my experience with switched to NONE (and therefore without H264 decoding) iMovie feels more fluent then before. Do you know any more benchmarks to test the differences?
This will break hardware video acceleration for H.264 andHEVC, it’s not recommended
depending on what you need, OpenGL gets faster… but I’m actually testing both settings and Martin Lo’s package against each other - stay tuned for another video!
@@JessiesFlying I asked oclp developers and that was response from them, like you said could be great for some people.FYI Not knocking video think you do really good work.
Hey Jessie, love yur vids btw. Here's my problem: I installed Somona via opencore on my iMac 27'' from 2017. Doing this i discovered that theres also a windows partition on my hd. I'd like to delete my Hds, install vanilla/offical Mac Os and then the opencore way you recommend. But whenever I press the option button when restarting, I can only choose between Windows and the OpenCore option. Sometimes the MacintoshHD Appears but whenever I choose it, there is nothing to boot. Would you please help me? Thanks.
What does it show when you select EFI boot (OpenCore)?
thanks for the answer! When I choose EFI Boot i can choose between the WIndows Partition and Macintosh HD, which starts Somona if i select this option. But i wonder how i can access the boot menue that allows to erase the HD and reinstallt the original MacOS
@@JessiesFlying
@@AlexMüller-i7b keep command + R pressed - see here: ua-cam.com/video/A9SmsdUCTmk/v-deo.htmlsi=u2ml1j5wj7C8baPm
Now I want to try this on either mon 2012 Mini or MBP !
Hence I need to install Big Sur or Ventura (both still running Catalina)... before going back to Mojave if unsatisfied with newer macOS 🙂
Go go go 🚀
Which MAC is that next to your Phillips monitor?
A G4 Cube, but it’s a modded gaming PC inside… 😈
Thanks very helpful
hmm is it ok to update MacPro 5,1 12.6.1 through software updates? I just did the trick here and working great! but im not sure if its ok to update to 12.6.1 from 12.6
Yes, software updates work as with supported MACs 👍 only make sure you use latest OpenCore
@@JessiesFlying ok so i cant just do the standard update as we did from 12.5 to 12.6? I have to go through the entire process with USB and opencore to go to 12.6.1?
@@dparham no, just install latest OpenCore and then update through software update - no need for USB 👍
@@JessiesFlying ahh ok great! I did install the new opencore! thanks
For my 12c 5, 1 I essentially had a 40% bump in performance, sheesh, Lol.
Great to hear I could help 😬
Can I do this in my Mac Pro 5.1 if Martin's lo config.plist?
As soon as you install OpenCore Legacy patcher it will delete Martin Lo‘s config. But you can copy it to the EFI Partition afterwards, but then ask Settings of the legacy patcher are gone - either… or!
@@JessiesFlying Tks Jessieeeeeee, ur so helpful guy, :)...
How do you do that with cMP 5,1 using Martin's Lo OpenCore ?
Download his package and copy to the EFI partition…
@@JessiesFlying That's what I use- ;) I ran some GB4 tests and I get normal results (around 130.000) with High Sierra, Big Sur and Monterey. But the strange thing is that Adobe Première under Monterey is really slow compares to Big Sur. Even the OS seems smoother, and even smoother with Mojave or High Sierra :/
@@bertr0nic did you try the OpenCore version of this works better?
@@JessiesFlying I'm using latest Martin's Lo package, 0.8.1 if I remember well ;) But I'm not sure I understand your question well :D
@@bertr0nic try the OpenCore Legacy patcher if that works better
Ich hab einen 5.1 2x3,46 128 gb 1333mhz Ssd platte eine Saphire readon 580 8gb und komme auf 35000 in Benchmark???
Ist das normal??
In welchem benchmark? Ist Grafik-Beschleunigung an (VideoProc Converter -> Settings)?
@@JessiesFlying danke für die Antowrt das wars das Problem danke
@@deniszumberovicdz2965 cool! 🚀
Wait, you're running Open Core on a G4 cube???? #G4 #CUBE #G4CUBE
Nope, the G4 Cube is a PC i7 7700K with GTX1070 😂 there is a video of the modding here on my channel: ua-cam.com/video/rFN45D7JQoU/v-deo.html
Opencore 0.5.3 now has the NONE spoofing level activated as default for Mac Pro 5,1
No that’s not correct on my MacPro5,1 (I’m literally testing performance right now including Martin Lo‘s package) ☝️
@@JessiesFlying Hmm that's odd that it was on mine. What specs does your Mac Pro have? Mine is a 2012 12 core 2.4ghz with a gtx680. Will be interesting to hear your results :)
@@reginaldbowls7180 MacPro 5,1 2x 6 core 3.4GHz with RX580…. 🤔 checked it again, standard is „minimal“ spoofing
@@JessiesFlying Hmm maybe because I have an nvidia gpu...
@@reginaldbowls7180 that might be a reason 🤔
From 90.000 to 133.000 is nearly a plus of 50%!!!! Would have been an even better title....
That’s right! 😂
Did anyone do same thing with late 2008 mbp?
would be interesting...
i am very upset that apple kicked 5,1 out of the pitch
Me as well! 😡
attension! - you will lose the H264/H265 HW acceleration with this setup!
Not for sure - I'm actually testing various setups...
@@JessiesFlying saw it on my cMP with radeon VII
Grat tutorial. Thank You so much. But i have a problem. After installing (mac 5.1 - both Big Sur and Monterey) on the original card 5770 os works great! Unfortunately, after installing the metal RX 580 card, after starting the system, there is no signal on the monitor even after 15 minutes. There is no signal. Please tell me what I am doing wrong when replacing the card. Maybe I should change something in the system before I swap cards? Earlier, about a year ago, I installed Big Sur according to your tutorial (ua-cam.com/video/RMhGfm7Wx6I/v-deo.html) and it was enough to replace the cards and the system started. I kindly ask for help and best regards:)
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mac pro 6,1 "that is the garbage can" LOL
Yeah, that's the unofficial nickname name for it .
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@@JessiesFlying Hey just tried this, for some reason, any streaming videos, eg. Apple TV, Cruncy Roll, Netflix etc. stop loading and gives errors - perhaps HDCP settings are affected - switching back to minimal seems to allow video playback once again, will try and upgrade the Opencore and try it again
@@AldrichQuaiHoi that would be interesting, keep me updated
Make it 33% faster 😂
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Hi, I have a Macpro 3.1, 2008. I want to install Mojave, what do you recommend?
Mojave should run fine with OpenCore. I would recommend v0.6.4 as you don’t need the settings for rapid security response RSR in macOS 13.3 and newer which were implemented in 0.6.5…
@@JessiesFlying Thank you.
Hi Jessie, ich habe seit dem update auf Ventura eine wesentlich vereinfachte Installation/Update registriert als auch einen erheblichen Performance ggü. Monterey. Natürlich habe ich nach deinem Video gleich mal unter SMBIOS nachgeschaut und dort ist bei Spoofing bereits "None" eingetragen. MBP mid 14 11,3. Bin total happy.
Cool, danke für die Info 👍
@@JessiesFlying wollte mal mit geek messen, failed aber wegen einem Punkt: "Depot of Field", Ideen?
@@soti1471 gerade nicht 😳
@@JessiesFlying er erkennt nur die Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB Karte - deswegen scheitert der Benchmark test. Wie bekomme ich denn die Nvidia aktiviert? Den Post Install root patch habe ich gemacht...all availble Patches already installed......
@@soti1471 welche Grafikkarte zeigt er denn bei „über meinen Mac“ an?