"One of the BEST EVER Wings" - Meet the Wing Wing Z-84
Вставка
- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- So far I've owned SIX of these and they're brilliant. They can do FAST, they can do SLOW and then everything in-between. One of the BEST models I have ever flown. Crazy value for money at just $33 here bit.ly/31liDDo FULL Setup details below, Press SHOW MORE to see them, Matt
Wing Wing Z-84
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
This really is one of the best models for the money, you can fly them fast, slow, FPV or just enjoy them on a windy day like I do. The parts are cheap and the build time is low, you probably even have the parts spare from a previous build!
View/Buy link: bit.ly/31liDDo
Servos: TowerPro MG90S
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
I've owned way over 100 of these servos and for £1.90 each, they are superb value for money and really do have metal gears.
View /Buy bit.ly/2Ho2u6N
Motor: Turnigy D2826 2200Kv
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
This motor with a 6x4 prop and a 30A ESC is a brilliant combination and works with many models.
ESC: 30A HobbyKing Blue
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
While you could use a quad ESC, the extra bit of nose weight from this style of ESC works really well and saves the requirement of a separate BEC.
Propeller: Any 6x4 propeller
Battery: 2200mAh 3S
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Any 2200mAh 3S that fits is ideal. Just make sure you hit CG and if you're off, add a little bit of lead up in the nose for good measure.
RagTheNutsOff FaceBook Group
================
You can join over 3,100 cool pilots like me & you over in the FaceBook group here: / ragthenutsoff
Support This Channel
================
If you've enjoyed this video or the UA-cam channel as a whole, you CAN help SUPPORT this channel by using the links below before buying on any of these sites.
Banggood: bit.ly/rtno-bg
HobbyKing: bit.ly/rtno-hk
GearBest: bit.ly/rtno-gb
eBay: bit.ly/rtno-ebay
AliExpress: bit.ly/rtno-ae
These, as can be assumed ALL links in this description are "affiliate" links, which means I will gain a small percentage of the sale which can be put towards more models, reviews, RC parts, dancing ladies and/or coffee to keep this channel going.
If you would like to know how I started this channel by accident, see this video to find out more: • How I started this Cha...
Matt
---
WANT MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS ONE?
---
For more videos like this one, see my UA-cam Channel here:
/ @ragthenutsoff
Would you like to SEE THE NEW VIDEO'S BEFORE they're published on UA-cam?
---
I post the videos in the FaceBalls group BEFORE they go live on UA-cam.
You can join the group here:
/ ragthenutsoff
#RagTheNutsOff #BestEver #WingWingZ84
My first plane was the Z84. I have three now ,even converted one to fly in the winter snow,One of the best planes I ever owned... Thx Matt for all you do for the Hobby...;P
I totally agree. I own two, one is stock the other converted to EDF. Both fly equally well and are super efficient. Both are equipped with FrSky S6R receivers. If you ever get into a nasty spin, just flip it to autolevel mode and you'll be fine. I also created a launch mode with a throttle elevator mix. Makes it super easy to side launch.
My next project will be one with an Omnibus F4 running Ardupilot.
Howdy Dieter, I've had a vector in mine, you'll be surprised what you cram into one given a little planning and time. Matt
For almost 40 years I built planes from wood. Beautiful planes, months long work. Then I saw a few videos from Olivier C about the z84 and I realized I want to have that too. I haven't had so much fun and pleasure flying in a long time as with the z84.
Howdy Andreas, they really are good fun aren't they?! Matt
I owned 4 Z-84's. One I just crashed beyond repair (believe me it is possible) and one, brand new, got stuck at the top of a 25m tree (with a Crossfire receiver... ). The two left standing are one with the DYS-1806-SE1806PRO-2700KV (super crazy on 4S) and one setup for long range flights with AX 1806N 2100kv (also 4S). The first one on a lion 3500mAh pack flies over 30 minutes (around 20 minutes if you're butchering it all the time on full throttle) and the long-range one does 90 minutes (tested!) in calm weather and over 50km round-trip. That gives me plenty of room to spare on the missions that I fly which are 20km out and back. I have never had issues with capacity running low on my return trip.
I can easily say the Z84 is the best entry-level and advanced platform that you can build on regardless of if you want to go crazy with it (like over 100 km/h) or you're looking for a good FPV or even long-range FPV platform.
Easily the best model ever created.
I am just re-setting up mine with Omnibus F4 Pro V3, HakRC 35A Blheli32 ESC, Emax ECO1700kv, Avan 6x3.8 Longrange prop and 4S1P Li-iON Sony Murata 3000mAh 30C pack + M8N mini GPS and R9mm receiver. FPV setup: Runcam Sparrow with Eachine 800mW VTX. Best wing this and the ARWing that has a bigger electronics bay. And yeah, best wing for the price! (forgot to mention, running Arduplane/Chibios - way more stable than iNav :P).
Honestly man!! I just started to put some hours in mine!!!! first one, and I did rigged it for FPV, using a 4c LiOn battery flying almost a hole hour is literally a ball! I have posted some videos on FB on the ragthnutsoff page... I'm almost sorry it took me such a long time to build it... also special thanks to Charles Blackburn for his help setting up the iNav flight controller.. I wouldn't have been able to make it work so well without Hes help and experience.
really good plane easy to transport, and its so light that it bounce out of the ground with literally no real damage to it...
First wing after moving from quads, following Matt's iNav build video. Flown it to death, brings a tear to my eye.
Just remembered that i have the exact same motor-esc setup as leftovers from a totalled radjet. Since i never owned a Z-84, i just ordered one!
Morning Herman, oh enjoy! Matt
Hi Matt, I own the FX-79 and I love it.
I think was my 1st ever wing build, after building quads. Does fly really good once you get the cg right. Still got it all smashed up on the wall. Think I'm going to buy another and build a better one. You can't beat it for the money. Cheap as chips.
I have one that’s made for long long range. There is someone who flew his wing wing for about 120k total trip. You can find his video on YT
That was KoraKora (Benz).
They are an unbelievably capable wings, and a clean slate for modding to do just about anything.
Alasdair McC correct. He is the reason why I switched from the mini talon to wing wing for this summer ;)
I know it's nuts isn't it!
This was my first plane...and I promptly smashed two into the ground because of the death spiral. Coming from quads I had no Idea how to fly planes, watched a bunch of videos and thought I had a good idea of how to fly. But I would throttle up and try to pull out of the stall(but I flew way to close to the ground for that to even be remotely possible). I also had it built too heavy for my inexperience and must've been somewhat tail heavy. I built a flite test tiny trainer and got a sim and now I finally can rip the wing wing and I keep coming back to it over any of my other planes( a few flite test planes and ranger 2m)...I built the first 2 with the 2826 and 6x4 prop...the latest one has a 2207 samguk and a 30 amp maverick esc. Super light weight and rips, getting some weird desync at high throttle so have to mess about with that a bit. It is a bit twitchy, so maybe I still need to move the cg a bit forward. Definitely an amazing plane for fpv (so simple to launch with goggles on just give it a toss and then throttle up) and so great in the wind!
What caused the spiral?
My Z-84 has arrived from China already, Banggood are pretty fast but arriving today was a pleasant surprise :)
Love 'em, have 3 of them, one converted to an EDF. I truly always want one to be in my tool bag.
One ☝️ of my favorites. I agree w you 💯 Matt 👍
The Z-84 is the Morris Mini Cooper S of RC aircraft.. a true legend.
My second one gets maidened today. The first one lasted for years.
First was destroyed?
@@blackterminal Yes, it was attacked in flight by a bunch of marauding psychotic Plovers.. it didn't end well on the second flight after repair, they literally destroyed it.
Have two. One power, one pure sloper. Great little wing.
Howdy Greg, good call, good call!
yep, your correct! got 3 of them... lots of worry free ( $ ) fun
Just finished one with a grayson hobbies microjet v3. 2200 3s pretty mental on 6x5 prop. Only bad issue is a big dip on launch. Trimmed the grass a few times.
Howdy, yea they like to do that a lot. I'll cover this trait in the flight footage video when I edit it as they do like to dip and it will catch you out a lot. Matt
@@RagTheNutsOff I think there is a printed motor mount to reduce the downthrust but don't know if that will result in too much up on the full knacker. Found using the overhead hand lauch was better than the side chuck.
Used the 6 deg upthrust print from thingiverse and the up elevator mix on opentx easy to launch no dip slight climb on full throttle much better.
If you use too much up elevator, this wing tip stalls easy, just keep lowering elevator throw till you cant stall it
Definitely my fav aside the bigger brother FX-61!
Morning, I can believe that! I still remember the "Moisture content inspection" video you made :)
Hi Matt, it will be great to hear about your your Wing Wings! 'Best Eva?' dunno... but surely the most fun, versatile and portable Wing out there! I regularly take mine abroad - Croatia, Brazil, France, Spain.... great FPVing everywhere :) Cheers!
Hi Matt, I have just bought a couple of Z84's as an initial venture into some basic FPV. However, I could only get the kit version and am not sure what would be a sensible motor/prop combo for 1.) 2s slow, quiet cruising and 2.) 3s and a bit more lively but also quiet! Would you have any suggestions ? Many thanks, loving your channel and subscribed. Alan
Already got three of those, loads of fun, fist one with exactly your setup, completely totaled on second flight (inexperienced me fist time adventuring on wings), second one with some spare quad parts like 2205 motor 5045 propeller, 30a esc and a lighter 1300mah lipo and wowww: those one took my noobs crashes like a champ because of low weight but also screwed like a mad banshee on WOT; That second one gave me so much joy, happy moments and allowed me to finally fly wings that I agreed to sell it when a friend of mine starting on wings asked for it.
The third one (currently in use) is fully equipped with a f4 controller running inav, fpv system, GPS and literally fly on rails.
So much fun, learning and laughs with those z84.
Yep. Dance in the wind is the way to go with the Z-84!
Hi Stefan, it's my favourite thing to do with them. Always a challange and when you come back down, full knackers and you're back up there again :)
Matt
I agree, the best around model.
Matt, I found your channel after I got an Eachine BlackWing a year or two ago. I've been flying it on 4S (DVR video on my channel) lately and it flies so good but it's going to explode any crash now. I just ordered a new BlackWing airframe for it before seeing this video. I'm thinking once my Sonicmodell F1 breaks that I'll give the Z-84 a shot for the rebuild airframe.
Sorry for the boring story. I love your channel and advice!
Howdy Mike, we tried killing that black wing and it would just not die. Julian in the FB loves his and as had it for ages. The z-84 is definitely one of the models to get or at least borrow from a flying buddy for a spin around. Matt
Flown my Z84 to death...4.5km is my PB with it on 2.4g...full AP..The bigger one flies even better.
Got mine in s nasty spin too turning out of wind with its nose up.
Did you recover spin ? Engage flight stabilizer?
@@blackterminal Yes, I was high up fortunately..The FC won't save you in a spin on a flying wing....apply power and down elevon will. Still got the Z84...🤔😀😏🇬🇧
Mines got a old eachine 2600kv quad motor,20 amp esc,gemfan 5051 bi blade and any manky 4s battery thats seen better days from your quad.200mw aio akk camera.
Goes like the proverbial shovel .highly recommended and good plane to chase with quad.
Takes alot to kill one of these so dont know why hes on his 6th ?? still on my first one
Im on second one, but going to give it away, nothing wrong with it bit the tiny battery bay killed it for me, as i use flysky radio the RX is pretty big and takes up room, my first Z84 was set up as a sloper with no motor
Julian Humphrey I use a Mavic 3830mah 3s HV lipo. It’s more square than rectangle and fits well.
I love my Z84. Good Points.... Very agile / fast / will fly slow / cheap as beans / uses the ubiquitous 2200 3S / loops and rolls easily / canopy clicks into place / will glide a bit / resilliant in a mishap / uses cheap motors & servos / good sturdy carbon spar / easy to launch / easy to build and set up. Bad points...... bit noisy under power.
Hello. I'm looking to replace my Stryker F27Q and was wondering if all the electronics from that could just be swapped over to this?
Howdy Seth, ah no idea on that Stryker model I'm afraid. Matt
I have my first one still in the box... Is that wrong?
Yea very!
Best test bed!
It’s the best casual model ever. Dirt cheap, you can build one for 100€, so the price of a FPV quad motor set, and it can take their lipo as well and fly for at least 6min with the 2200kv and graupner 5x4. You can chuck it without motor and it takes of like a paper plane, so you never risk your fingers.
I’m on my third, just bon the kit and buy a new one when it’s to trashed to repair, but actually I lost the canopy on mine and it flies almost as good. It glides so well too
Can see it is new Matt, the hatch hasn't got the black paint worn off it yet :) The tip stall death spiral is mental if you aren't knob on with the CG.
100% agree, it needs to be nose heavy. Matt
Benzo is from Indonesia, amazing pilot. Youve chosen my next model after I destroy my sparrow that full kit, motor and all was $60AU. So Z84 Im coming soon.
I am building a Z-84 and was wondering if uhu por will adhere to the motor mount or should I use epoxy?
Howdy fella, I used UHU Por on mine, you'll need it a little wet to make it fit properly and make sure you have it the RIGHT way around too. I hope that helps, Matt
I have one, shes lovely, but not a great sloper (but works).. best under power for immense fun
Absolutely. Need to be powered to get some height on and then enjoy the rode back down again. Love mine! Matt
When you say it will fly forever on a 2200mah 3s, what sort of time can be expected out of this frame both full throttle the whole flight and also a cruise flght?
Just ordered one from BG (I refuse to give hobbycrooks a penny of my money), I'll be sticking an omnibus F4 pro running Ardupilot in mine when it arrives :)
Howdy, really depends on your flying, a good 10mins plus at full knackers fun with some throttle movement. After that, depends on the wind and whether you get bored easily ;) Matt
@@RagTheNutsOff 10 mins it is then lol, my planes might as well just have an on or off switch for the throttle ha ha.
If I hate this plane I'll hold you responsible lol, I had no intention to buy another plane as I already have a volantex phoenix 2400 on its way but your video caused another impulse purchase 😂
heres a thought for your plane destruction, side airbags from front seats are small enough and light enough to fit inside a lot of planes, trigger of a simple 12v source and guarantee maximum foam snow lol
Sir, I
I've never owned a Z84 but I did build one for a friend and flew it once or twice. Personally I wasn't that keen on it, mostly because it felt a bit delicate and flimsy. The Nano Goblin would be my favourite aircraft of all time. Expensive but just excellent in every way IMO
I agree 100%, and I've never seen a delta wing stall like a Z84 that's unheard of.
Morning, yea Ive see the larger one fly and they're fast. But crazy expensive, hence why I like the Z84 more. Matt
Best Model ever, put 6s on and got a flutter that snapped the wings, a bit of e6000, model was back in the sky 15 minutes later
Holy mooly!
Uh, yeah you can beat it, and you have Matt... The Ritewing Mini Drak beats it every day of the week, but it is a tad more expensive. Still, it’s worth it!!
Agree on the MD for FPV, that's at the same level, but for a different reason. Matt
I have 3 now Matt and thanks for my 3d canopy you made me, I have a 2600kv multistar Viking with a 6x4 prop and it is both mental and will slow down to a crawl, I have started a craze at our field as they are breeding like rabbits 😂
I have one, and maybe will never be disposing it, despite being busier with racing drones
Don't! I made that mistake once before and regretted it. Matt
Better than the C1 Chaser?
Just as good for FPV. The C1 has a larger battery bay for bigger batteries. Matt
@@RagTheNutsOff Actually you don't need a bigger battery bay. 4S Lion is plenty for this small wing and it will get you way more flying time than the C1 Chaser. The C1 used to be my go-to FPV platform but now with the things my Z84 can do I will never look back at the C1.
I haven't lived matt as i haven't had a z 84 lol
Ha!
I prefer the Freewing 1026 over the Z84 the FPV port is the difference to me.
Lace, I have th freewing just for FPV. It's amazing. Matt
Nice
Love what you are doing Matt, but have you been sleeping the last year?
Not sure what you mean Jannes?
@@RagTheNutsOff there's a load of new models you haven't even looked at. Z84 is old
😂 hahahaaa...this video and some comments are awesome !!!
I still have never had one of these
Eli, if you get the chance to, get one. Love mine to bits. (As you might have been able to tell Eli). Matt
Hi Mat . Z84 £18 eu Hobbyking .
got one ...not flown her yet !! time to get my finger out ,i think !!
Absolutely! Just watch out for the slight dip in launch, after that life is good. Matt
Good afternoon Dave lol