I started out with zildjian cymbals when I was a kid. Later in my early 20s through my 40s, I played Paiste. I recently made the switch back to Zildjian in my early 50s, and I'm glad I did. Paiste make some really superb cymbals, but my ears just couldn't take their bright sound that they're famous for. Playing K's and the beautiful and redesigned A Zildjian hi-hats now. They all compliment each other perfectly.
The 1970s Ks were made at the then Zildjian factory in New Brunswick, Canada which also produced the AZCO cymbals. After the split between Armand and Robert, the Canadian factory eventually became home of Sabian cymbals.
It’s so cool to hear how much thought goes into making a cymbal, and how every K has its own story. That brilliant K Custom 19” Fast Crash really needs to become a part of the catalogue. Great video guys!
@Arnav Gairola K Custom fast crashes are only currently available only in 14"-18" sizes. 19" and 20" sizes are still prototypes and not for general sale
Well....sort of. SABIAN is run by another branch of the Zildjian family. Both brands are great and I have both. It depends on your tastes. Even though the brothers, Armand and Robert, had differences of business and professional opinions and went separate ways, I think the result is better competition and products in the long run. This is called capitalism and the customer always benefits from competition.
I'm a fan of Zildjian's and I like them mostly because of they're genuinely crafted and brings out the final touch of my desire when playing. Though I have a 24" K light ride which I love and would have liked to have a review on that one! Excellent program thanks! 🇸🇪
Rob, really great interview which seemed almost like a clinic to me totally awesome! Paul is an incredible cymbal artisan. I have one of his Joe Morello take 5 tribute cymbals and it is incredible and really nails that take five tone. I'm sad that I heard he left Zildjian I hope he is doing well on his own and I would definitely check out anything he is involved in. Would be great if you got together with him to see what's going on with him now..? Peace, Bob
This is an excellent video. Every company should do these kinds of videos. I love watching this kind of stuff. Anyone know if there’s a video like this for Paiste Cymbals?
Jesse Orosz Yes and with a bigger savage bell. Maybe leave it raw and possibly even extend it out on the bow like a K Custom Hybrid. Nice defined ping with a bit of controlled wash with savage bell sound when you lay into it with light crash capability. Something with the best attributes of the A Rock Ride and K Heavy Ride in larger sizes.
10k for a new bell design is no problem for zildjian espically for what their cymbals cost hell i play OVER 2000 dollars worth of zildjians myself k's and a customs
The issue ain't to spend 10k to produce and sell a new bell/cymbal design, the issue is to spend them just to try it and see what happens, if it works as expected or not. They are a succesful company and they can afford to do some experimentation (they can't afford not to do it, I'd say), but there's no need to go crazy and spend a hugh amount of money just because. If they tried a dozen different bells, it would be 120k, and maybe they could stay with just 1 or 2 of them. It makes no sense for a company, especially when they already already have a bunch of tested designs that work great. So I guess it's pretty logic they consider carefully and wisely before deciding wich designs are worth to be given a try, even if they have the economic capacity to do it, isn't it?
Uhh, finding the right K comes down to avoiding the cymbal washing out too much! For a ride you look for definition not losing your spangalang to too much wash. Difficult to describe!
every time i see a cymbal on a fingertip, i cringe, because a few years ago i was in a studio, and did this with a 24" paiste ride, and i spun the cymbal around, and a 3mm long metal splinter went into my finger !!!!!! awful
You pronounced Kerope wrong, and the Zildjians were developed by Armenians not Turks. The original factory was in Turkey, but not made by The Turks. So many people think these are made by Turks. Not true. The zildjians are Armenians.
Zildjians are Armenians yes. But most of the master cymbal makers are turks and current handmade cymbal are Turkish brand. So that's where the misconception comes from
@chuckc7375 although it must be said cymbals already existed before the Zildjians. It was just the B20 recipe that was good. Cymbals already existed in ancient China and India and even Persia. Just wasn't B20
Love how Paul got annoyed at around 11 mins..he said the K customs are for new ideas and this dude whips out a K sweet..dude..know your product..if you're a zildjian guy who works in a music store you should know the sweets are regular K's..🤦🏽♂️
This video is awesome! Having Paul explaining facts about the cymbals he creates is so interesting, do more stuff with him if you can!
Unfortunately he was let go from zildjian a few years ago
I started out with zildjian cymbals when I was a kid. Later in my early 20s through my 40s, I played Paiste. I recently made the switch back to Zildjian in my early 50s, and I'm glad I did. Paiste make some really superb cymbals, but my ears just couldn't take their bright sound that they're famous for. Playing K's and the beautiful and redesigned A Zildjian hi-hats now. They all compliment each other perfectly.
Same here. I recently sold all my Paiste and only play Ks and some Istanbul cymbals now in my 50s
The 1970s Ks were made at the then Zildjian factory in New Brunswick, Canada which also produced the AZCO cymbals. After the split between Armand and Robert, the Canadian factory eventually became home of Sabian cymbals.
That Overhammered Bounce is one of the sweetest rides I ever heard. Make it, Zildjian!!
It’s so cool to hear how much thought goes into making a cymbal, and how every K has its own story. That brilliant K Custom 19” Fast Crash really needs to become a part of the catalogue. Great video guys!
@Arnav Gairola K Custom fast crashes are only currently available only in 14"-18" sizes. 19" and 20" sizes are still prototypes and not for general sale
4:02 WOW! Now that’s just the best comparison I’ve heard
“Yup”-Paul Francis, loved this video, I’d love to see more of these in depth cymbal line videos
I want that 22" Overhammered Bounce!!!!
I have a beautiful 14" K from the 70s, it sounds great.
Freaking awesome video. Glad to be a Zildjian player for over 20 years.
The 3 prototypes at the end sound absolutely amazing. I am very very impressed. Zildjisn continues to dominate in Ride cymbals
Well....sort of. SABIAN is run by another branch of the Zildjian family. Both brands are great and I have both. It depends on your tastes. Even though the brothers, Armand and Robert, had differences of business and professional opinions and went separate ways, I think the result is better competition and products in the long run. This is called capitalism and the customer always benefits from competition.
Paul is such a gem
I read he was let go from Zildjian
Love to see/ hear Paul’s personal collection
That Stoccatto Ride in 21” and 22” with a bigger bell in raw form.THATS what I’ve wanted for years. Please Paul make it happen.
One of the best comparison and "line" videos I've seen. Thank you guys!
I'm a fan of Zildjian's and I like them mostly because of they're genuinely crafted and brings out the final touch of my desire when playing.
Though I have a 24" K light ride which I love and would have liked to have a review on that one!
Excellent program thanks! 🇸🇪
Listening to Paul talk is super fulfilling. I throughly enjoyed this video.
I LUV THAT ZILDJAN CYMBAL EXPERT - PAUL FRANCIS SO INFORMATIVE THANK YOU
Super informative! Now I have some knowledge behind my choices!
Paul really knows his stuff!
Please do more cymbal in-depth videos. As a person who loves cymbals I like talking about the sound of cymbals. Very cool, keep it up.
Very nice explanation, thanks!
I got my first K from Anderton’s in Guildford when I was 14 years old
Thank you for the greatest show ever conceived
I need that prototype at 17:30
Rob, really great interview which seemed almost like a clinic to me totally awesome! Paul is an incredible cymbal artisan. I have one of his Joe Morello take 5 tribute cymbals and it is incredible and really nails that take five tone. I'm sad that I heard he left Zildjian I hope he is doing well on his own and I would definitely check out anything he is involved in. Would be great if you got together with him to see what's going on with him now..? Peace, Bob
absolutely brilliant video
So enlightening, thank you very much.
I like them all actually!! I want them to be added next year
I got 16' , 17' and 18' the K Constantinople crash cymbals , love it
Please make an overhammered bounce and please make 21" Constantinoples
This is an excellent video.
Every company should do these kinds of videos. I love watching this kind of stuff.
Anyone know if there’s a video like this for Paiste Cymbals?
Drum Center Portsmouth just did a Paiste comparison.
yeah..paiste better than zildjian sounds cymbals
Epic video! Thank you!
The K custom staccato ride NEEDS to come out next year in a 22 it's a beast !!
Jesse Orosz Yes and with a bigger savage bell. Maybe leave it raw and possibly even extend it out on the bow like a K Custom Hybrid. Nice defined ping with a bit of controlled wash with savage bell sound when you lay into it with light crash capability. Something with the best attributes of the A Rock Ride and K Heavy Ride in larger sizes.
I’d love to hang out with Paul. Dude loves his work. How many people can say that? Definitely not me lol
K all day
Paul knows his cymbals
I really hope that overhammered bounce makes it to market.
I like the darker sounds
SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide}
The best explanation for K cymballs, thanks. The problem... I want them all 😂 🤣😂 🤣😂 🤣
All this time I thought the A's and K's were different alloys. So it's just the techniques? the metal's the exact same?
Walter T , Yes
7:32
🏆 Zildjian 🏆
The Kerope for me I reckon
I have a 19 inch Kerope and it's the best symbol I've ever owned
Where can I get the Staccato ride? Has it even been released yet?
Same here, where can a person get the 21" Staccato ride and the 19" K Con fast crash? Paul?
@@bonzomio They aren't available yet. If Sound Lab Prototypes are available you have to get those at a local drum shop or special event.
@@Assimilator702 Thx Joe. Not long ago I acqired a 20" K Con Light Ride. A beautiful cymbal! Just what I was looking for.
Why did Paul leave Zildjian?
Great video. Wish you didn't interrupt him so much and just let him tell us.
When do you go to Paiste?
10k for a new bell design is no problem for zildjian espically for what their cymbals cost hell i play OVER 2000 dollars worth of zildjians myself k's and a customs
The issue ain't to spend 10k to produce and sell a new bell/cymbal design, the issue is to spend them just to try it and see what happens, if it works as expected or not.
They are a succesful company and they can afford to do some experimentation (they can't afford not to do it, I'd say), but there's no need to go crazy and spend a hugh amount of money just because. If they tried a dozen different bells, it would be 120k, and maybe they could stay with just 1 or 2 of them. It makes no sense for a company, especially when they already already have a bunch of tested designs that work great. So I guess it's pretty logic they consider carefully and wisely before deciding wich designs are worth to be given a try, even if they have the economic capacity to do it, isn't it?
It's just ironic thay the k special dry series are thick looking cymbals whilst being that thin
What size was the Sweet K?!
Looks like either 17 or 18
If Paul was allowed to finish his sentences this video COULD be another 30 minutes and filled with much more info.
Ray Romano and Mark Wahlberg are killing it!💪🏻
4:08 “yaya” “yeah”
Uhh, finding the right K comes down to avoiding the cymbal washing out too much! For a ride you look for definition not losing your spangalang to too much wash. Difficult to describe!
every time i see a cymbal on a fingertip, i cringe, because a few years ago i was in a studio, and did this with a 24" paiste ride, and i spun the cymbal around, and a 3mm long metal splinter went into my finger !!!!!! awful
Big OOF that sounds super painful
Dude looks like Ray Romano with long hair and beard
No cymbal stands?
You should ask zildjian to make bigger fast crashes. They stop at 18".
Didn't know Tom Green llayed drums and grew his hair.
Who is this host??
“What does it say in the back?”
Really?! 🤨
Does the camera guy have a squeaky nostril or is it just me!?
You pronounced Kerope wrong, and the Zildjians were developed by Armenians not Turks. The original factory was in Turkey, but not made by The Turks. So many people think these are made by Turks. Not true. The zildjians are Armenians.
Zildjians are Armenians yes. But most of the master cymbal makers are turks and current handmade cymbal are Turkish brand. So that's where the misconception comes from
@ And they learned it from the original Zildjian lineage, the Armenians.
@chuckc7375 although it must be said cymbals already existed before the Zildjians. It was just the B20 recipe that was good. Cymbals already existed in ancient China and India and even Persia. Just wasn't B20
Dude who cares
To mikeseal2266, I care because I’m Armenian DUDE.
I’m not a fan of the darker sounding K-series. If I had to pick a K, it’d be a Constantinople.
K Hybrids
Love how Paul got annoyed at around 11 mins..he said the K customs are for new ideas and this dude whips out a K sweet..dude..know your product..if you're a zildjian guy who works in a music store you should know the sweets are regular K's..🤦🏽♂️
Special k
So many cymbals and not $$$$$. Lol